>play XCOM UFO defense because it is highly regarded amongst strategy game enthusiasts>get nuked while exiting the ramp and lose atleast 30% of my guys every single time in the beginning of missions>smoke makes no difference as the enemy throws frag nades into the smoke anywayThis unc slop is highly overrated especially with cryptic controls and retarded visibility when environments become cramped. They need to make XCOM 3 more like XCOM EU rather than this garbage.
>>728451117Pretty decent bait.
You are suposed to use the smoke before trying to do anything else.
>>728452012I dont like the game railroading me into using smoke. I want more options.
>>7284511171. You're lying because you couldn't possibly be far enough in the game for the ayys to have grenades2. An explanation on the smoke strategy: You're basically starting the mission with the enemy fully charged so any visible move you make will likely trigger reaction fire, so you throw smoke, kill your own first turn, let the enemy waste their TUs and THEN you move. It's a design flaw but one that's easily worked around and one that makes sense if you think about your team landing in full view within their territory.Not our fault you don't know how to play a 30-year-old game
>>728451117>get nuked while exiting the ramp and lose atleast 30% of my guys every single time in the beginning of missionsNot great, not terrible. Life is cheap in this game and you can expect heavy casualties in most missions if you aren't exploiting every dirty trick.>smoke makes no difference as the enemy throws frag nades into the smoke anywaySmoked tiles reduce line of sight range per tile depending on how dense it is, the ayys can still shoot or grenade you if they run close enough to see you in the smoke. Smoke from random shit like rocket explosions is light and barely provides any cover.>I dont like the game railroading me into using smoke. I want more options.You can play without using smoke grenades and compensate with other strategies like using even more brute force and explosives, but even more people will probably die.
>>728453230>You're lying because you couldn't possibly be far enough in the game for the ayys to have grenadesI'm not. I'm using OXCE with handmade expansion.
>>728454213>handmadeHardmode*
a big UI problem with OG X-Com is that there's not a very good intuitive depiction of smoke thicknesslike proper smoke grenade smoke on its first turn after exploding hard blocks LOS down to 8 or less tiles, but a gigantic field of rocket launcher smoke barely does anything. There's also no very good indicators of view distance in general, meaning if you need to autistically play footsies with view distance even in daylight an unsmoked you have to count tiles. The "correct" player reaction is to play loose and lose a lot of people and shrug it off but it's hard to unsperg and do that.
>>728454050>the ayys can still shoot or grenade you if they run close enough to see you in the smokeIts ridiculous that chrysallids just run through the smoke and murder operatives. I have to keep rotating my units just to make them realize that there is a huge fucking alien standing right next to them? How is that realistic?
Trying to exit the ship is part of the fun
>>728454934>most elite fighting force and the last hope for humanity against horrors unknown>lands ship right in the middle of enemy held territoryNice tactics xcom
>>728454934>Landing in Brazil
>>728451117Rampies are always fresh meat, send greens in the front row to eat the opening fire and make the enemy give away their position.
>>728451117Here's your pity you
>>728456152>xpiratez coomereww.
>>728454213>>728454376Well there's your problem, all the big overhauls/modpacks are by superfans who make their stuff far harder than the vanilla game.
>>728456152>instead of clicking the unit, you click right next to them and the currently selected unit moves to them, wasting their TPWhat the fuck were they thinking?
>>728458239Just don't missclick
Can we even have discussion withjout baity threads?
>>728451117surprised nobody has ever bothered to make a ui overhaul mod for this game desu. I'm not going to spend hours studying fucking 12x12 pixel pictograms with no tooltips just to play some old ass game
>>728461234Where do you think you are? /v/ is bait central
>>728459628Hard not to especially when multiple shenanigans are involved. Sometimes this game makes me rage so hard because of stuff like this. Night missions are the other bane of my existence.
>>728451117I remember playing this game for a bit, had cornered aliens in their small ship with my remaining 2 guys, figured it's time to learn how to use grenades but for some reason I could not figure out how to throw it after arming it. I ran in with my guy and exploded everyone inside. Fun game. But I prefer the newer Xcoms myself.
>>728462562>multipleMultiple floor*
>>728452487climbing over the dead bodies of your first wave is an option
>>728462609>I could not figure out how to throw it after armingThe mechanic is retarded. You have spend 3 time units to prime them and then you have to spend 20 time units to throw them. If you dont have 20 time units guess what? You have to disarm the grenade by spending 3 time units else it will explode on your face.
>>728461418>nobody has ever bothered to make a ui overhaul modThat's by design, it allows the fanbase to filter out retads.
>>728463187>retadsI think you're one of them, pal
>>728454213you absolute dip
>>728455038>most elite fighting forcethey are glorified mercs, rookie lives are not important
>>728463253Well yeah, of course I am, takes one ro know one.
>wtf what do you mean I'll lose units in this wargame? it can't be, I'm a tactical genius! I I should be allowed a no deaths run by default, this games sucks!
>>728463023Primed grenades don't explode if they're in someone's hand or inventory m8
>first game in the genre is still the best one ever madeHow did they do it?
>>728463023do you not use grens then? Were rocket launchers the way to go, I forget.
>>728454213>Never played before>Use OXCE>Get waffle-stompedHave you factored in your mental retardation?
>>728463740I dont believe you. >>728463778Overall nades use less time units than firing a rocket. They are also cheap. Its annoying that you need to click more stuff is all.
>>728461234rage bait is the lifeblood of /v/
anyone else doesn't like upgrading to power armor because the personal armor looks the best?
I will never forgive nu-com for ruining TBT games forever.
>>728464486Stop shit talking nu xcoms fag. They are just fine. They streamlined plenty of esoteric nonsense the original had.
>>728465125Making a more redeable UI is fine, put tooltops and tutorials everywhere you want, but fuck the streamlined mechanics "move or shoot", every tbt game is like that now
>>728465125I've gotten countless hits on ayys in the old games by missing other ayys, that's a piece of "esoteric nonsense" that isn't even possible in the new ones
>>728453230>1. You're lying because you couldn't possibly be far enough in the game for the ayys to have grenadesI think they start with them if you play on superhumanwhich btw, don't do that because superhuman is bugged
>>728466215Oh yea? Your guys can shoot your own guys during reaction shots in ufo defense too. Its garbage.
>>728456152xpiratez seemed like anime waifu bullshit until I played it and realized that Firaxis are fools for not hiring these devs
>>728466215I dunno I prefer a snek pulling me for a hug and then saying hello to my close combat specialist
>>728466416>these devsPretty sure most of the megamods basically are one autist responsible for the main fork while adding minor stuff made my other players
>>728466340>its garbageNo no, it's part of the fun. Don't send people in blindly ahead. The new game is so fucking stupid because the meta is to immediately sprint into melee range and start shooting the enemy (which you miss half of the shots still, of course) because there is no penalty for missed shots or no chance that the aliens are going to simply start spraying your crew. So literally melee shooting is the most effective way to win. Meanwhile Jagged Alliance 3 comes out and the meta is to spray every tree, bush, and shack down because there's no telling where the first shot is going to come from.
>>728453230>makes sense if you think about your team landing in full view within their territoryTrying to make sense out of it just makes it retarded that your team would land in full view. It's a plane, not a boat sailing to Normandy. Just stick to calling it a design flaw rather than adding a little cope at the end.
>>728466416One polish guy with futa fetish is the developer of it.
>>728467035I will now try xpiratez.
>>728467035Holy based
>>728467035>with futa fetishAlright, fine, I'll play it.
>>728463746tycoons and strategy games adjacent to tycoons never had the chance to perfect their graphics. They never had cool well animated sprites with exceptional color theory palettes. We never saw pixel graphics reach their true potential, even in the 00’s when pixel art reached its zenith. I don’t think zoomers could ever properly produce and animate proper pixel graphics without it looking more colorful than their cereal and giving it more stimuli than a hobbo hotel lobby. Zoomers just don’t get it.
>>728466901maybe you got ambushed, you didn't exactly where you were
>>728467035I'll never understand why all the greatest mods are always made by Slavic degenerates
>>728451117Just wait till mars tactics come out. It will BTFO nu-xcom and old-xcom alike.
>>728466747>stormtrooper tactics are stupid but destroying the entire environment is notNostalgia is a powerful drug. Yeah I never ran up to aliens in oldcom that would never happen. I definitely chose to trade shots with them from long range where they are stronger.
>>728467676that's what Phoenix Point said and look at it now
>>728467703>>stormtrooper tactics are stupid but destroying the entire environment is notIt's not, and the fact you even say this is in fact proof of how far this series has fallen and why it's so goofy, now. Why should a window-frame in a sheet-rock wall take a plasma bolt, Firaxis? Why should an empty crate be able to sustain an entire platoon's worth of fire? This didn't happen in the old games. Why did you make the game into bum-rush slop, Firaxis? >Yeah I never ran up to aliens in oldcom that would never happen. Not on purpose. The stun probe was only there because of high-risk-high-reward. Getting into melee range to bag an alien alive was a suicide mission in old x-com. Now it's just "Turn one, (My troop gets two turns)".This isn't Nostalgia, this is literally how strategy games should be played.
>>728467782Phoenix point was all marketing (Julian gallop's name attached to it). This game, on the other hand, had functional demos during next fests
>>728467703>Yeah I never ran up to aliens in oldcom that would never happen. I definitely chose to trade shots with them from long range where they are stronger.No idiot, you used grenades because you could load dozens on a single troop. Those grenades also clearing cover as well so your sustained shots could kill. >Nostalgia is a powerful drug Nu-Com is 13 years old, now. It's actual nostalgiaslop. You're just an out-of-touch unc who likes shit games, grandpa.
>>728467703>definitely chose to trade shots with them from long range where they are stronger.Your support mini-tanks? Your rocket launchers? Concentrated fire?
consider the following>xcom>with cute anime girlsinb4>dude just play troubyeah nah, APART from that
>>728451117>>728454213>>728454376>his first time playing xcom ufo defense>doesn't even know how to play the game>playing a hardmode mod and complaining its hardYou're a special kind of retard aren't you?
>>728451117>unc slopLol more like gramps slop now.
>>728468689I'd play the shit out of that, it's my dream game.
>>728468689The reason Troubleshooter failed is because it had no strategic layer. There are no consequences for losing. I would have loved that game if anything I did, mattered.Another Troubleshooter is not what I want. I want another Total War/Xcom/MountAndBlade-like where what you do on the tactical layer has effects on the strategic layer. I solved your genre no need to thank me.
>>728467035I didn't know Dio was fucking gay
>>728469956He isnt cause futa is a straight man's fetish.
>I want [extremely specific non-genre that only appeals to a small number of players]
Full release any day no-ACKKKKK
>>728469956never meet your heroes
>>728470212What do you mean anon you can go play it right now :)
>>728470212the patch they released a few weeks ago is basically their full release
>>728470372Its just milestone 6 of 10 or something.
>>728467323Sure but then that should be more of an event rather than an expectation and something that your team gets better about as the game progresses and they become more accustomed to the aliens ability to mobilize. That's still a stretch though considering you're usually assaulting a landed or crashed UFO and should have a decent idea of where they can be and where they're centrally located. It could be neat if it was a non-concern for crashed ufos and then became one on landed ufos the longer the aliens had before you arrived or for terror missions. But even then, if you're regularly landing in ranges where you need to smoke your landing ramp then why don't the aliens just shoot your plane down or start chucking explosives as soon as the door opens? Like, I'm not saying you have to hate it. I'd even fully respect it if you just thought it was fun having a D-Day landing. I'm just saying don't try and act like it makes sense.
>>728470329I don't really like their art direction to be honestTho I never did like og xcom's art too so I guess I can't really complain
>>728470504its milestone 6 of 7, and they said milestone 7 is basically just polishing>This is a significant update to the game that primarily focused on completing our Early Access content roadmap. Although there will be a little more content arriving in Milestone 7 (which will be our 1.0 launch build), we'll now largely be concentrating on polishing and improving what we already have.
>>728470525blah blah blah
>>728470679Great conversation, bro. That's why I still come to this board.
>>728471164You're making up longwinded design arguments for a 30 year old game about something everyone agrees is busted. Good job, you're right, I'll travel back in time and relay Microprose your input
>>728471381Sorry for talking about the video game. My bad. Forgot where I was.
>>728471471Sorry I was mean before. Thanks for your input.
>>728471471>>728471642Now both of you kiss.
>>728470583Well is the game any good now?
>>728454213>plays an overhaul that makes the game harder and is nothing like the original game>complains about it not being fareYou should have been aborted.
>>728467035There's zero futa in xpz.
>>728472421I am no longer going to try xpiratez.
>>728471942idk i played like 10 hours a year ago and i've only played a couple hours since that patch came out a few weeks ago. seems alright
>>728472580I don't know why this retard is spreading disinfo, I'm a massive futafag, but Xpiratez at no point shows or mentions anything other than regular or mutated men and women. All the ladies are just varying degrees of buff.
>>728472298>fareGood morning sir.
>>728472671The women are all muscular lesbians. It's just futa in disguise.
>>728473406Non sequitur.
>>728473406They aren't lesbians, you are fucking retarded. You get to choose what they are.
porn addicts need to get raped by a horse
>>728467035Damn, maybe I should try xpiratez
>>728473307I got distracted by better things, I meant to say "fair".
>>728474136>game shows multiple pictures of women kissing and fondling each other for no reason>not lesbianslol nice cope
>>728474749You get a research early on that decides whether you want men or not.>Gals are Superior>We Need Male TouchYou didn't play the fucking game. Shut the fuck up, retard.
>>728474381Don't threaten them with a good time.
>>728474894I did play it. "we need male touch" is basically hard mode since males are just cannon fodder and "gals are superior" is much more fleshed out which means that the polish futa fag liked it more. Cope harder.
>>728467676>destruction of terrainThe demo was cool, but holy shit was it janky.
>>728455038>elite fighting forceyou burn through soldiers every mission, they are disposable meat bags, it's like real war in that sense
>>728458239do you see the two buttons on the command bar that have "little man > little man" and "little man crossed out > little man"? Those mean "select the next unit" and "select the next unit and prevent the current unit from coming up in the rotation again when I use these select next unit buttons"
>>728464408it's like the dude just used an AI to make vague gun shaped things for them to hold
>>728475370All your knowledge of xpz comes from the fucking tvtropes page. WNMT is easy mode because you start getting male hero units much more frequently and they have regenerating health. You can get them to join you even if you don't pick that, but it is much less frequent and happens during random events.>males are just cannon fodderAgain, wrong and retarded, there are at least three male units that are highly specialized and better than the default gals at what they do, but the same applies to female units. Peasants = fodder. Gals = good all around. Cats = fast but fragile.>futa fagThere is zero futa in the game. Both male and female sprites show full frontal nudity. There is zero mention of futanari sex or allusion to it too. Stop doubling down after being caught lying you subhuman kike.
>>728475515Not in EU and XCOM 2. The veterancy system makes sure of that.
>>728463746It's not really the first one, laser squad was earlier by the same devs and xcom was built upon it. XCOM just happened to be the first one that got really popular.Laser squad to xcom is what wasteland is to fallout.
>>728475694foreground gun is recognizably the xcom laser rifle, one of the girls has the xcom laser pistol. I think the other might be a heavy laser but I don't remember it
>>728471942it's ok, but suffers in some bad design choices around corners, has some frustrating missions (3 turns to collect 6 abducted people or you autolose), and is all around janky to play. they don't try to mix up the old xcom formula much, which means it has all the same pitfalls while also being unfinished for like 10 years now.
>>728475896Yeah a laser rifle with a muzzle brake, the guy drawing it has no idea what he's drawing or what a laser or rifle are
>>728456310>>728466416There is nothing wrong with fiction that titillate. Literally nothing. It's shocking to me how EVEN /v/ was successfully browbeaten by culture into hating their own penis.
>>728477532Most of them are troons or males that are on antidepressants, so their libido is practically dead. Most American kids are on antidepressants before puberty and it irreversibly demolishes their hormonal balance, they can't get it up even if they want to, or need stimulation so intense, that they feel guilt for entertaining ideas of sexuality at all.
>>728477532Not either of the people you're replying to, but I don't like games that purposefully make characters ugly, nor do I like games that are just blatant fetish or fap bait. I'm not going to play Dragon Age or Fable 4, just like I'm not going to play Stellar Blade or any gachashit.
>>728477819>Stellar Blade>fap baitWhat?
>>728477819Gachashit's problem is that there isn't good gameplay. It's independent of pretty girls being present. And that's really sad that you are convinced that presence of pretty girls somehow is inversely proportional to how fun a game is. You've been successfully conditioned by feminists. And that's really too bad.
>>728478009>It's independent of pretty girls being present.These things don't exist in a vacuum. The fact that they're pushing the girls/boys to try to fleece retards out of money is a warning about what the gameplay is going to be.>And that's really sad that you are convinced that presence of pretty girls somehow is inversely proportional to how fun a game is.What's really sad is that you're stupid enough to read my post and think that I said presence of cute girls is inversely proportional to game quality. I like Nier Automata and I'm tentatively excited about the Tomb Raider 1 remake. I also won't touch the Gothic remake because they took out the girls dressed in S&M gear and replaced them with ugly manjaws wearing potato sacks. Only retards pretend that it's not possible to tell when a game is trying too hard to compensate with fap bait.
>>728478009It's a calling card, the gameplay isn't shit because the girls are pretty, the girls are pretty because the gameplay is shit. And then there are times where the gameplay is shit and the girls still aren't pretty.
does xpiratez have a wiki?i wanna read up on the weapons and see pixelated titties without starting a campaign
>>728451117Git gud
>>728472421Gals are futa coated. What do you think they do to the shotas you capture?
>>728478424https://xpedia.netlify.app/I don't think this is up to date but close enough if you just want to window shop.
>>728478561There are no shotas.
>>728478892Altar boys exist.
>>728478289>These things don't exist in a vacuum.That's just it, you fucking idiot. THEY FUCKING DO. All that means is a dev said "I LIKE PRETTY GIRLS."
>>728478942They still look like guys in their 20's, it's not really the same kind of "altar boy" as in a Christian church.
>>728477819I dont mind if xpiratez is made as a separate game but perverting a masterpiece such as XCOM UFO defense into this depraved fetish bait is akin to sacrilege.
>>728479030Yea the subtext being "I LIKE PRETTY GIRLS (WITH DICKS)"
>>728479030>THEY FUCKING DO.Nah, you're a fucking retard.
>>728478329Actual genuine low-IQ take. Just because there are devs who do put in pretty girls as a crutch, doesn't make them actually inversely proportional to good game design. You are literally betting against your own best interests by jumping to that conclusion.
>>728479215Piratez is a legitimately one of the best tactics game available to play today and boobs are the filter that keeps retards at bay, it is working flawlessly.
>>728479314What year was it when futa buckbroke you?
>>728479316Sellout. Feminist tool. Hedging bets against mankind.
>>728456310>>>/lgbt/
>>728479038The pedia page says they are younger boys
>>728479389It could be the finest game in the world but I find its theme and aesthetics to be utterly banal.
>>728463746>the mech killed the xcom soldier, not the alien
>>728479532I opened the game specifically to capture this screenshot that says that they are "Very young men". Colloquially a "man" means "a male of age past puberty". This is as far as it could be removed from a shota.
>>728479703Explain how that one grey alien died in the hangar? It doesnt even have LoS with any of the xcom operatives.
>>728479495>Sellout. Feminist tool.Being obstinate won't make this true and it won't make you any less retarded.
>>728479940You're right. Me being incensed doesn't make it true. It's true regardless. You fucking self-hating male faggot.
>>728479873the tile is wet in some areas in the hangarhe slipped and fell
>>728451117I'm a zoomer who played EU first, and I have to say I actually really like UFO's action system. The action bar gives you more flexibility in your actions, like you can move a lot or instead take 1or 2 extra shots, instead of just everything being move and shoot.
>>728479873The sectoid next to him went berserk and unloaded his gun on him
>the unga bunga hip-crusher women in xpiratez>the gobbos in xpiratezgathering up the skulls and demon parts and creating a fucking insane demon godling feels good man>the insane gnome mech suits>dat artillery cannon tank that can nuke just about the whole map
>>728480246>then mercenaries raid your auxiliary base that's staffed with peasants you keep for zombie missions
>>728479389>play game.>it has cringe ufopedia entries with horny images. >entire game is tongue-in-cheek and has no weight to it.Meh its no masterpiece.
>>728456152What the hell is this? Looks interesting enough.
>>728480242>went berserkDo enemies panic or go berserk even before a fire fight starts?
I remember jetpack snipers being the gamebreaker meta pick in the reboot.
>>728480035>You fucking self-hating male faggot.Here's the mod I have installed for Ashley's outfit for when I replay RE4 (I play both version of it pretty often). You're wrong, and you're angry that you can't pretend you favorite dogshit games just happen to have cute girls as opposed to being completely devoid of artistic merit.
>>728451117>>728452487Then don't play on hard difficulties. I only ever play this game on normal and it's fine as a sim.
>>728479873The alien near the corridor is covered in the green blood of the dead alien.
>>728480323The anon was talking about gameplay perspective, I think, not about the atmosphere or images.>cringeOh, I see.
>>728452012>>728452487You can beat this game and TFTD on superhuman without ever using a single smoke/dye grenade. There's no smoke grenade police, you can do whatever you want.
>>728480487SHIVs were the meta in 1st game. Jetpack sniper was game 2 iirc.
>>728451117
>>728480786>didn't skip first turnWalk the plank.
>>728478329>the girls are pretty because the gameplay is shitRetarded way to put it. It's not just the girls being pretty but the devs focusing really hard on them and making pretty girls a main selling point that indicates the gameplay sucks. A game like Ninja Gaiden might have had a shot of Rachel's tits bouncing in the trailers but she's not a focus of them because the devs were confident in the gameplay and wanted to sell a cool action game instead of fap bait.
>>728451117This game has such high highs and such low lows. It is insane. 70% of a mission is spent in boring bug hunts after majority of the alien force is killed. Most missions being front loaded like this makes it painful to play.
>>728480490You're just being a contrarian retard then. There are plenty of games with cute girls that stand on their own merits of being a good game first and foremost and you literally just proved it (and I don't mean your coomer mod). Yes, even RE 4 (but the original more than that face-scanned trash). And unless that's the only Capcom game you ever played, you'd know that's the truth, since every one of their franchises had hot women prior to like 10 years ago. Resident Evils, Haunting Grounds, literally every fighting game they ever made (that MOST companies made, for that matter).Man, you are just looking for internet arguments aren't you?
>>728481070Dino Crisis too.
>>728481070>You're just being a contrarian retard then.No, you're just a complete fucking idiot. That's always been the issue.>There are plenty of games with cute girlsWhere did I say or imply otherwise? Serious question, not a rhetorical one. Answer it directly or admit to being a fucking retard.
>>728481247Did you jump into the middle of an argument or something? This all started with me arguing "Games are not automatically lower in quality just because they have pretty girls in them." If you think that wasn't the argument, you literally jumped into the middle of someone else's conversation and didn't follow the reply chain.
>>728478009>Gachashit's problem is that there isn't good gameplay. It's independent of pretty girls being present.its funny because XCOM-like with anime girls already exists and its really good. Gacha monetization is just incompatible with good gameplay.
>>728479379Right, but I'm not going to wade through a pool of examples that prove the rule for the lone exception, not when I can just load up an actual porn game that does either end better at the cost of being taboo
>>728481343>Did you jump into the middle of an argument or something?Sorry, but you don't get to weasel your way out of this by saying that seeing as I explicitly said >>728477819>Not either of the people you're replying toin my first post. Now answer the question or admit you're a complete fucking retard. There is no third option.
>>728481376Yes. I don't appreciate being nickle-and-dimed just because I'm thirsty. Unfortunately that is a very common business model.
>>728456152>mission that lets you easily capture live mage>I know, I'll just kill everyone
>>728481467Do you even HAVE a question? You just broadly shat on "fetish bait" despite literally downloading coomer mods on your own time. Complete hypocrisy.
>>728481591Answer the question, you fucking retard. Last chance. No damage control, no pretending I jumped in half way through and started defending a position I never held. Where did I say or imply that cute girls make a game bad?
>>728481725You sound like a fucking woman throwing a tantrum, are you an arab by any chance?
>>728481725You literally said you won't play Stellar Blade. This heavily implies to me that a pretty woman is itself objectionable. Otherwise, what is Stellar Blade's "fetish?" Do be honest, now.
>>728481834>This heavily implies to me that a pretty woman is itself objectionable.>>728478289>stupid enough to read my post and think that I said presence of cute girls is inversely proportional to game quality. I like Nier AutomataYou tried.
>>728482104You didn't answer my question. Why would stellar blade be unplayable but you play shit like Nier? Just COMPLETE hypocrisy?
you two are both losers
>>728451117>The game turns into stealth game, beacuse as soon as your unit gets spotted you;ll get shot with projectile/granade whose impact covers 1/8th of the map and wipes your whole squad in one turn, while the enemy is still unseen in the fog of war>If you didn't invest all of your early funding specifically into scientists or you are behind in development, then you will have to restart your entire camping from the beginning because you won't be able to bring enough ammo on your ship to be able to kill every enemy on the mapOverhyped game
>>728480786>didn't take the back door facing the edge of the map99% deserved
>>728482272This is true.
>>728482241>You didn't answer my questionSorry, but you don't get to avoid questions and then ask them.>Just COMPLETE hypocrisy?Only if you're stupid enough to think that any sort of cute girls or character design and their inclusion in a game exists in a vacuum. You didn't read my posts, you made assumptions, you got called out for not reading and now you're mad. We're done.
>>728482338>projectile/granade whose impact covers 1/8th of the map and wipes your whole squad in one turnsmall squad tactics 101: spread out
>>728481376>Gacha monetization is just incompatible with good gameplayA big part of it, I think, isn't even solely that monetization inherently forces them to fuckup the gameplay but that the games are designed for retards who not only tolerate gacha but play for fifteen minutes on their phones. So, I don't think it's so much that you can't as much as the audience simply isn't there.
How are you supposed to use autocannons?They're like rifles that make you slower and cost more AP to shoot.
how hard is xpiratez? is it recommended i play vanilla first if i've only played nucom?
>>728482515lol, retreat with your tail between your legs then. You can't even rationalize your own opinions with an internal consistency.
>>728482634Harder than the base game for sure, the main issue is that it has so much stuff you need to learn that restarting many campaigns is obligatory.
>>728482597If you want to do a night mission for !!FUN!!, you can use them with incendiary ammo as AOE light source. Otherwise you don't.
>>728482634You might as well play vanilla first. The base game isn't that long and is a lot easier than Piratez.XPiratez, on the other hand, is an extremely long campaign that's meant to be played ironman, so you can recover from a lot of losses and still finish. The Jack Sparrow max difficulty setting throws some extra early game that challenges that can and very likely will wipe out a new player though.
>>728451117Skill issue. Should have played the SUPERIOR game.
>>728451117Real answer, all the aliens start off facing your craft on harder difficulties in X-COM and they all have full AP so they're going to take reactions shots when you do anything. You want to end the first turn without moving outside to be safe.
>>728451117xcom is so nortubel tier
>>728456310Doing this to your house
>>728482634>is it recommended i play vanilla first if i've only played nucomYes, it's a relatively short game.>how hard is xpiratez?tl;dr: don't play on 1st difficulty as it removes some content, 2nd or 3rd recommended, never play on 5th unless you want to suffer.It's different from vanilla. In vanilla you're expected to lose and replace troops, in xpiratez you're supposed to cherish each unit and accumulate long-term progress. Your main force is supermutants who can withstand small arms fire, and weapons across the board are tuned to deal stun damage along with lethal, so casualty rate is lower as long as you carry bandages and don't mess with large factions early.
>>728483316....whats stoping the aliens from doing this exact same thing to my ship?
>>728482907>>728483006>>728483346thanks lads, i'll run through vanilla first before checking it out.
>>728483419Advanced rocketry.
>>728482338>If you didn't invest all of your early funding specifically into scientists or you are behind in development, then you will have to restart your entire camping from the beginning because you won't be able to bring enough ammo on your ship to be able to kill every enemy on the mapYou can finish the whole game with the laser weapons that are easily researchable even with just the 10 starting scientists. The laser weapons even have infinite ammo. Also the game caps out at 25 enemies in a single mission on the hardest difficulty or something. Are you talking about some autistic mod because that shit you said makes literally no sense.
>>728483512>*with 30 reloads
>>728483526thisonce you get laser weapons you beat the game
>>728483419Nothing. Better research them hi-tech power armors with shields, or twould be a shame if some invisible ninja lobbed sum dynamite into the midst of your gals wearing cockroach leather.
>>728483754fucking ninjas, man
Which way /v/?
>>728484252Nothing can replace XPZ for me now, I've ruined myself by playing it.
>>728484252xpiratez
>>728484252X-Piratez latest version is on moddb, X-COM Files is good but not as good and especially lacks variety.
>>728451117>smoke makes no difference as the enemy throws frag nades into the smoke anywayThis literally never happened to me
so? buy a tank and send it down for recon if it bothers you that much
>>728484252>Which waythe way that makes my pp hard, and my soul happy.
pistols are underrated in the OG
>>728484252xpz, files is the platonic ideal of bloat given form
>>728461418>ui overhaulFuck that, mods just add more functions that aren't even in the ui and you use through keyboard
>>728480726>SHIVs were the meta in 1st gameReally? I assumed I was being a special snowflake using shivs a lot since everyone online didn't seem to think they were good
>>728485676>xpiratz>not the ultimate kitchen sink bloat mod
>>728483316Poor humanists...
>>728461418>with no tooltipsOpenXcom has tooltips.
>>728486141should've studied something useful
>>728466310None of the bugs of vanilla game is present in OpenXCom. And no one in their senses would play vanilla over OpenXCom.
Reminder to play Long War.
>>728486035I'm not sure who would say those guys aren't bustedTheir punch is devastating and gives them more mobility, they have a big healing AOE attack at level 2, and level 3 gives them an infinite Stun AOE that shits on Sectopods and Mechtoidsnot to mention their massive health pools and speedthey aren't even expensive to make compared to genetically enhancing ONE soldier
>>728486269Nu-com is trash.
>>728485978Are there any cool/good mods besides the megamods?
>>728486329I didn't know there were living fossils here
play phoenix point
>>728486296They suck against ethereals whose offensive psionics melt them as they have no will to lower the damage
>>728486296punch? bro you're thinking of mecs. shivs are the shitter tanks
>>728486406What is this retarded fucking non-sequitur is supposed to claim? I had played 1 and 2 before playing UFO defense, In fact I only discovered it because of how bad those two games had been.>>728486448lol
>play xcom but never figure out the human wave tactic or even that you're supposed to have multiple teams>somehow get pretty far anyway>my best guy has like 30 missions survived but is stuck at squaddie because apparently promotions are capped based on how many guys you have recruited
>>728486518oh no I'm retardedthe fully upgraded Hover Shivs are the only worthwhile version of the Shiv unitI did one mission with a squad of 6 on Classic and they shat on every pod on the mapmy microwave squad swept the enemies with little resistance
>>728486518no, i think he's talking about sparks, xcom 2's equivalent to shivs
>>728451117viewing every mission as the opening d-day scene of saving private ryan is what makes it greatgetting too attached to soldiers in xcom is to the detriment of its enjoyment imoyou need to embrace the horriffic meatgrinder as an inevitability you try to work around minimize to the best of your abilities to get goodcurrently replaying xcom 2 wotcbtfoing the chosen on ironman, but not yet ready to start commanderIs xcom anyone elses "christmas game"? I always have an intense need for some xcom style games around november/december.
>>728479770>where being an adult is not a requirementI don't know if you can read but this means they are not adults
>>728480397x-piratezit's great, calling it just a "coomer mod" isn't doing it anywhere near enough credit
>>728451117>unc slopYou now that the future of this website is doomed when people here are talking like this with no irony
>>728487387Puberty usually occurs before you become an adult which is legally 18. Being 16 is not being a shota. Stop splitting hairs. Neither their sprite nor the wiki entry portrays them as shotas.
Im playing x com 2 on commander iron man and I think I actually have a team that might beat final mission.
>>728487556Congrats kid, once you beat the tutorial play Long War.
I havnt used mods but x com is not THAT hard. You can just give every soldier rocket launchers and easily win missions and then just arm the guys with regular weapons that survive.
>>728487659What does long war add to the experience?
>>728487745too much shit to explain over text, the devs called their game a tutorial for Long War. That's all you need to know.
>>728454213Ya ever hear about walking before you can run?
>>728487745Nothing. It takes a mid, but relatively tightly designed game and stretches it past the point of nausea. If you want an example of how these devs do things, look at Terra Invicta.
>>728487923This mod looks like it just makes the game MORE rather than new stuff. Ill consider it after I complete this campaign.
>>728488364Yeah I bought Terra Invicta and hated it pretty fast. Just felt very drawn out. It could benefit hugely with streamlining.
>>728487149shivs are fuckin great. I've never gone to those extremes with them. But 1 or 2? Invaluable.
>>728475860>Not in EUheh, ready for the draft, euroboy?
>>728484732Normal game disables alien nades in first turn or two to avoid this kind of situation, OP just plays modded game and complains.
>>728456152To be fair you play as giant super mommy mutants who are technically female naked Space Marines.Hard game (but fun).
>>728464408samefor the final space mission i'm alright with it because i like their looks as spacesuitsand in regular mission soldiers with autocannons and rocketlaunchers can be beefier than others
>>728470212until someone makes a visual total overhaul that makes the game not look soulless as fuck i'm not playing itit's too sad and generic lookingi wasnt a fan of eu and 2 as well visually but atleast i can mod those like crazy
>>728467035>One polish guy with futa fetish is the developer of it.It's a shame he is a slav but no one is perfect, I guess.
>>728478892>>728478942>two adult "men" fighting over the age of pixelsnever change, /v/
>>728489085Slavs are the only based people left.
>>728451117>>play XCOM UFO defense because it is highly regarded amongst strategy game enthusiasts>>get nuked while exiting the ramp and lose atleast 30% of my guys every single time in the beginning of missions>>smoke makes no difference as the enemy throws frag nades into the smoke anywaySOVL
>>728473985Speak English, fag.
>>728456152Piratez proper game when? They could even hint some XCOM lore only to piss off Onions Firaxis but without getting sued.
>>728454213>I'm not. I'm using OXCE with handmade expansionThis is equivalent to not playing the original stalker games first and immediately installing GAMMA and then complaining that the game is hard as balls and you're getting raped by every gopnik with a pistol
>>728488392Of course, you should probably take a break after too. Long War takes commitment. But just to sell you on it...In Xcom 2 Long War. You have to manage your havens. Every region has a haven with up to 13 resistance members that can either recruit new members/Gather Supplies/Search for missions. These havens become the way you support yourself. And if you assault an enemy base in that particular region, you can liberate a region from Advent. Yes, that's right. You can reconquer Earth that way.Missions are different. You can't just fly to some place and be stealthy. Instead you infiltrate a mission. Wait for a timer, and then assault. Missions can affect the strategic layer AI that only Long War has, for example you can lure Advent Legions(basically how many soldiers they have in on region) away by blowing up an Advent monument in a different region.And so much more in the gameplay side of things. The Chosen, New Classes so much shit is in it. Anyone calling it bloat was either filtered or didn't play it.pic related is comparison of Long war stats with Vanilla stats. It's double the length of a normal campaign.
>>728451117>Which games are like Divinity: Original Sin 2?>XCom 2.>Play for 30 minutes.>It's nothing like Divinity: Original Sin 2.
>>728489085If the earth got x-com'd your mother would be riding a xeno right now burger-san
Firing a single shot taking half your turn (and ending your turn if done first) will never make sense to me.
>>728489759>>728489249are you winning, Ivan?
>>728483218Why did this kino vidya filter UFOfags so much?
>>728489983It didn't.
>>728451117Assuming it's legit and not bait, just play X-COM Apocalypse lmao. The cityscape (it's confined to a single city instead of having a geoscape) can be tricky, but the regular battlescape offers a choice between RT and TB modes. Also the game feels more responsive and you actually start with decent gear (It will quickly become obsolete)
>>728489469ntabut the overworld strategy layer addition sounds interestingdoes it work with wotc mods?
>>728489809It's called "aimed" shot, soldier takes some time to aim and shoots a single bullet. You can do 3 3-shot bursts or 4 not-aimed single shots in a turn using baseline rifle.
cryptid not cryptic fucking earthlings
>>728491003I use all kinds of cosmetic mods with it, so yes. Anything that affects the game balance is probably not a good idea.
>>728483218>Dude what if aliens... but UNDERWATER?Seems like a really dull premise for a sequel, sell me on why this game is good.
>>728451117>>728451117>>play XCOM UFO defense because it is highly regarded amongst strategy game enthusiasts>>get nuked while exiting the ramp and lose atleast 30% of my guys every single time in the beginning of missionsso you knew it was a strategy game and didn't use strategygot it
>>728491580Harder, so it's a natural progression.Being underwater is spooky.
Enforcer is pretty good
>>728466901I can rationalize most of xcom's inherent ragebait, but those dropship pilots need to be court-martialed and hanged for treason.
>>728492242They frequently get executed anyway: you lose the ship when you lose all the soldiers, so it's one of them that flies it.
Well done Enforcer!
>>728483316>mfw you can feel the game calculating all those deaths before the turn screen.
>>728492236>>728492643Looks fun. Gives me Duke Nukem Zero Hour vibes. Just more arcadey.
>>728492645
>>728492883It's been described as robotron-like but also with some serious sam flavor.
>>728493002I am still shocked I cleared TFTD for the first time in those threads.
>>728493073Is that you Playthrough anon? I still cherish the memories of Cato Sicarius being both our saviour and our doom as I was the one who suggested the name
>>728486448Based enjoyer of best of 2 worlds.
>>728451117>frag nadesHuh?
>>728491523aighti only use the "dont use my time" and gotcha again rest is all cosmetic
>>728492883It's fucking terrible, don't play it
>>728493315>Our doomThat man carried the team all the way to the end.
>>728494658I can imagine the reasons someone would think so in a typical X-Com thread. It probably pissed a lot of people off when they kept experimenting in genres.
>>728494840 Was it not on Cydonia in the subsequent playthrough where he had a Football accident?
>>728495043That was either my first attempt or another anon's attempt. I did not have him on my first attempt so it is very likely another anon's.
XPiratez is my favorite
Games with morale, dawn of war, total war and xcom add a lot more depth to games.
