Please tell me /v/ isn't a stock settings user.... you do tweak your hardware to get the most out of it right?
>>728453020I underclock both cpu and gpu.Last longer and I still get what I need.
manily just undervolt gpu
I don't touch CPU settings and X3D doesn't like to be messed with.Just a small GPU undervolt.
>>728453020>ryzenNah, i'm intel user, and don'need things like that.
>>728453020My XMP settings would occasionally crash most UE5 games. Something about memory access violation and whatnot. I'm not about to waste 24+ hours testing my RAM settings so I just leave them at stock. UE5 games don't crash anymore. I do underclock my GPU though. No problems with it so far.
>>728453020Don't worry, bro. I use Lite Load 7.
>>728453647Stock RAM settings fuck you more than anything else. Like 20fps difference.
>>728453020>wilfully activate the forced obsolescence boosterlol, lmao
>>728453973Actually I undervolt. That's the planned longetivity booster.
>>728453020>Tanveer Singh
I tried undervolting my CPU once using recommended settings and it halved the speed of my steam downloads. Never tried again.
everyone with a 5800x3d/5700x3d should do -30 on curve optimiser
yes, I undervolted both my cpu and my gpu. this gave me a performance boost for free~~~~~sent from my 7800X3D+RTX4080
>>728453020I use the boost in the bios because the 7800 x3d was like $100 and if it dies I'll upgrade
>>728453549Nah, just need a 1.5KW PSU to run everything and an industrial freezer to keep it under 80*C.
>>728453020Rage bait troll thread judging by jeet journo but I will give it a serious response nonetheless.It's not 2000s anymore, manufacturers are able to squeeze most of the performance of your CPU with out of the box configuration, you are not getting much out of messing with CPU settings in terms of performance. Undervolting and moderate power limits are cool but in terms of power consumption and fan noise, not performance.Ditto for GPU, typically not too much wiggle room on high end GPUs, might get close to 10% additional performance on mid range GPUs if you are lucky.Memory timings are the only area where you can squeeze more serious performance improvement, but too time consuming and tedious to do it properly for the average joe.
>>728453020There are no such as stock settings since all cpu manufactures invented turbo settings.
>>728453647>I do underclock my GPU thoughfor what purpose though? unless it's broken ie. broken fan or you have made the mistake of buying a 1-2 fan card, that's kinda pointless. just enable the frame rate limit in any game
>>728453020I do but I have no need currently because I have one of the fastest consumer CPU's on the market.
>>728454638all the x3d CPUs reach 100c at stock settings
>>728453020My motherboard doesn't let me change cpu/ram speeds.
>>728454245fuck it i'll try it later this evening and see how it changes thingsis cinebench r23 a good way to test its effects?
>>728453020I get enough power from my 9800X3D and I'd rather not blow it up. Undervolting is also pretty negligible in terms of energy savings so why would I care. Enabling EXPO is the most I'll do.
>>728456732sucks being poor
>>728456820>Undervolting is also pretty negligible in terms of energy savings so why would I careSome 7800X3D and 9800X3D actually see performance gains when undervolting, so you can sometimes both save money AND gain performance AND run less hot.
Amd9950x3d and i am the only consumer of this product
>>728453020I underclock.
>>728453152>He thinks chips work like internal combustion enginesAbsolutely techlet take
What about that cpu overdrive overclock? Which improve performance
>>728457321I don't care what you understood or think at all.My stuff heats less, good enough for me.
>>728454638Arrow Lake runs much cooler than poozen.
>>728453020CPUs handle boosting themselves based on temps these days and "most people" are GPU limited anyway. This is terrible advice. Enable XMP/EXPO on your memory and consider a modest tweak on your GPU. That's it.
>>728457707Unless it's a laptop just buy a bigger cooler. A big dual fan CPU cooler is like 30 bucks and will prevent thermal wear and tear better.
>cpu stock settings>gpu repadded and rethermal pasted for a -20'C improvement on temps and custom fan curve enabled>ram timings set correctly or xmp enabledI just want my PC to be stable and not die on me. I'm don't give a fuck what anyone else does and I won't ever buy second hand clapped out parts that some retard ran into the ground.
I'll never understand those who underclock their shit. just buy a cheaper part instead, if you don't need the performance
>>728453020I only undervolt, because I am too lazy to overclock anymore. I just buy the fastest AMD X3D processor, because I can afford it these days.
i have never touched the settings of my 9800x3d since the day i bought it
Yeah I have a 65W (77W PPT) model, I set it to 90-120W usually.
>>728459034Part of the point of undervolting is that you can usually do it with little or no impact to stock performance. You'll still end up with performance that's much better than the next step down, even overclocked.
What the fuck can I do to a 9600x and 4060 on a cheap mobo if all? Xmp is already set at 6000 and what program I use to do it?
>>728459140You're not supposed to
>>728459310Undervolting and underckocking are two different things anon
>>728459409>he didn't add the thermal paste before putting in the cpu
>>728459310undervolting increases performance
>>728459549Its an asrock thing that affected some x3d cpus anon, do you live under a rock or something?
>>728456658Never gone above 75c on my 5700 x3D
>>728459754>Its an asrock thingThere are reports on pretty much every mobo
>>728459034Who does that?People above your post probably meant undervolt and typed underclock.
STOP DOING THIS
>>728453020>you do tweak your hardware to get the most out of it right?i adjust fan curve on my gpu but that's all
>>728453152Same. Overclocking isn't worth it to eek out a few more fps on unoptimized piles of shit.
>>728453020Overclocking is a meme these days. Back in the i5 2500k days you could overclock and get an extra 30% CPU performance, GTX 970 overclock get over 10% extra. Nowadays you're luck to get 5% gain because the stuff comes cranked out of the box.
>>728453020My AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.70 GHz 8 Core processor doesn't need any tweaking for foreseeable future. But my whole setup (CPU, GPU, RAM, Noctua cooling) is ready for eventual overclocking.
>>728461354you get 30% just setting your ram timings manual, overclocking is still alivetweaking your cpu other than adjusting the power and current limits is pointless, true
>>728459720Sometimes. If it gives you thermal headroom that matters. And not directly, since it's the higher boost clock that's actually providing the performance improvement.
>>728461521In English Mr. Scientist.
>>728459432Do people start out intending to directly underclock a system? I thought it was just something you might do to address stability issues.
>>728456658I only approach 90c with the occasional sloppa generation, or games that have to compile shaders before playingOtherwise it generally sits around 60-65c at load<3 my Thermalright cooler, god tier cooling for a sub $30 pricetag
>>728453274Aye it does, get in that curve optimiser and dock the voltagePersonally i also limit it my 5800X3D to 80W to stop it from pointlessly blasting power on loading screens or during shader comp to do it 1% fasterGPU also has the overclock with a lowered voltage cap and power limited to reduce power usage and minimise transient spikes. I want it to last as long as possible
My CPU is rated for 100° but I have it limited to 70 and suffer basically no loss of performance. Occasionally in a really CPU heavy game I might have to increase it to 80 for it to not throttle and stutter but I haven't needed to do that in a long while.
>>728454245That's about the maximum I would do. Different chips even from the same batch can have different limits on what is stable. I would start at 15, most can go down to 20 at least. Beyond that depending on the lottery you may start seeing crashes and data corruption.
>build computer with nice quiet fans even at load>works great>power supply fan turns on and sounds like a jet taking offI've been bamboozled
>>728461587Undervolting means sending less power to the card and with less juice going into the chip it is typically cooler. The tradeoff for this is usually that chips are less stable at lower voltages. But if a chip is cooler it means the clock "boost" curve where, within the established constraints, the GPU runs the chip faster until it starts to get too hot can often be set more aggressively. So higher clocks and for longer. But exactly how much performance you can get depends on how lucky you are with the silicon lottery in getting a chip that is stable at these lower voltages and how much those lower base temps are relevant with the cooler on the card.
>>728462659>folds piece of paper>uses pencil to poke a hole in itAhh I see.Overvolting is like when carfags have too much Horse Power and they have to constantly touch or tap on the brakes when they go under 30 mph even on the lowest gear.
>>728454245My 5800X3D crashed/froze once every one or two months while idle with -30, but worked flawlessly in games. -10 was rock solid.For the 9800X3D I'd recommend -15CO/+150MHz.
Turns out that the best silicon Switches (Switch 1, Mariko ver) can undervolt so much you can go from 1600 MHz to like 2400 MHz RAM. And RAM is the bottleneck on Switch, appearently.
>>728456809>is cinebench r23 a good way to test its effects?Yeah. If you want to really make sure that it's stable then you run cinebench for like an hour or something and if your system doesn't crash then you are good to go.
>>728461354Lucky me I still have a 970. Haha.
Everyone saying>undervolting my gpu/cpu gave me freeeee performanceknows that's only true if you were hitting thermal throttling temps before right? If you weren't then there's no way you get more performance from undervolting, and if you were then how bad are your fans?Undervolting is still good for power saving
>>728465329Low IQ.Undervolting aka lowering vcore delivers less drive voltage and therefore less total current to the chip for a given clock rate. That means less heat. Cooler transistors leak less. Less leakage waste gives you headroom to push *higher* clocks for the same total current. It depends on silicon quality, but yes you shit eating nigger, it can be free performance.
>>728465329I think I hit power limit before.>lower cpu vcore>cpu now consistently boosts to higher frequencies MAINTAING THE SAME TEMPERATUREsame goes for gpu
>>728465591So what you're saying is it gives you headroom to overclock more, nothing about undervolting being the thing to actually give you more performance. Gotcha buddy
>>728453020overclocking shortens the lifespan of a CPU by at least 50%
>>728465839so it goes from like 100 years down to only 50 years
>>728465745No one has ever claimed that a reduced voltage magically results in higher performance with the same clock rate. You just made up a strawman because you made a retarded statement and felt the need to save your face on an anonymous board. These days people talk more about undervolting because both GPUs and CPUs have moved onto boosting clocks automatically depending on power/thermal headroom, rather than running at set clocks. This has reduced the need to overclock in the traditional manner. t. completely different person
>>728465839>>728466086I kept my gtx970 at +30mV vcore and after ~5 years it deteriorated and started crashing under loadtough luck I guess, at least the oc was nice.
I have some of the best air cooler (Assassin SE) but stock 7800X3D will still start SCREAMING like a motherfucker if anything start stressing it, even a single core app. Extremely annoying.So yeah I had to tweak it for less heat. But because of how these chips works, lower voltages and negative PBO will unlock even more performances but it doesn't reduce the heat.So I just put a 72C° temp limit instead of the default 89, fuck it.The funny part? It didn't hurt performances at all! Maybe only a bit in 100% all cores benchmarks I noticed a tiny difference. I have no idea why AMD made this CPU act like this. Apparently 9800X3Ds don't just max out their temperature that easily, if so I'm excited to slot in the next X3D cpus.
>>728453020winter is cold but i don't need a housefire
>>728466586you were overheating. my Kepler acted the same, after replacing the thermal paste it no longer crashed.these old gpus did not have hotspot sensors
>>728453020Years ago, I had a 2500K so I overclocked it... the bump was very noticeable, but ultimately, I decided it wasn't worth it and went back to stock settings.
>>728467118Hmm, you might be right. It usually crashed after going past 70, which was not a problem before. And I always ran my case fans at 100% to mitigate this.I wish I connected the dots back then. I upgraded and sold it for scraps as a defective unit.
>>728467580I got a free gtx 650 that behaved the same. it was freezing and crashing. it stopped doing that after I repasted it. my theory was confirmed when I purposefully overheated the card, I ran it with no fan at max load, it started crashing above 100 degrees celsius
>>728453020Why?
