he's in so many games while Leon is sideline to bad cgi movies lol
>>728480407chris is the forced main character but leon and jill is the duo people truly want
I miss Jill being the relevant main character of RE
no, zombies are the main characters
>>728480407I wish they gave leon long hair
>>728480616this poll was made during re4r release of course it would have leon biased, look where ashley is too lol
>>728480668This felt plausible until RE5 when Chris finally had more games than her. Then RE6, the Everyone Is Here of RE games, completely snubs her.
>>728480407Chris is for the homos, Leon is for the women
>>728481129I inspire to look like leon
>>7284804072 and 4 are the best games in the series.9 will be a kino return to form.
>>728480407of coursechris is for the male audienceleon is to appeal to women
>>728480407I honestly thought the fps games were reboots set in a different universe
Do Chris and Leon ever fight each other in the cg movies? If so, who wins?
>>728481023We've been over this, fans consider Jill one of the main characters of the series and the devs openly spite them, she's a goomba tier character for them
>>728481479They're never going to make a MC vs MC fight end up with one character clearly winning, it's always them not knowing who they're fighting and going blow for blow until they realize the person they're fighting isn't hostile like in RE6 and Dead Island
>>728481023>>728481617Thinking back, we already knew back in the day that RE3 was a forced side project the main writers didn't really care for. It was made by a secondary team to fulfill a sequel contract with Sony.Their treatment of the character following that shouldn't have actually been surprising in hindsight, even though it sucks.
>>728481617Wasn't she the first RE representative in MvC? Why'd they put her in over Chris or Leon if this is true?
>>728482290different eras, it's why the current era of RE is being heavily carried by remakes rather than completely new games
>>728482617>heavily carried by remakes rather than completely new games?
>>728480407>Chris really is the main characterno wonder no one cares about the resident evil story
>>728482290Jill was demoted from main character to side character when 5 releasedthe game where she was suddenly blonde and brainwashed by wesker
>>728482691>3 remakes in 6 years>Resistance and REverse dead in the waterthanks for verifying
>>728482691Im surprised they haven't dug out remakes for devil may cry yet
>>728481184Leon would still have college chicks thirsting for him at 51.
>>728480407>Resident EvilChris is sidelined by Jill>CVXChris is sidelined by Claire>RevelationsSidelined by Jill>Resident Evil 6Sidelined by Leon>VendettaSidelined by Leon>Resident Evil 7Sidelined by Ethan>VillageSidelined by Ethan>Death IslandSidelined by Leon and Jill
>>728480961Leon was still topping the polls during RE7/8 release though. Face it Chris is a forced protagonist.
>>728482691>proves him rightHere's 2016 to 2026 in RE>3 mainline games>3 remakesThat's it.The three other games consist of two pack-in titles (see: don't count at all) and the leftovers from ORC2's shuttered development that got sent out to die. Even ignoring that, Requiem is proof that the remakes are carrying the games, as it's just going to be an asset flip and continue on Leon's story from the remake of 4 (per the people who leaked Leon in the first place)
>>728486887>Face it Chris is a forced protagonist.More games should throw out the protags that don't work for the ones that do.
>>728480407>bad cgi moviesThe cgi movies are kino though
>>728482162>we already knew back in the day that RE3 was a forced side project the main writers didn't really care for. It was made by a secondary team to fulfill a sequel contract with Sony.You got pretty much everything wrong.But anyways, Jill was going to be the lead in CV. Kamiya rewrote the ending of RE2, so Jill was switched for Claire, a character that was supposed to be retired after RE2 but her rewritten final lines changed that. Jill was then put into RE3 when the original RE3 got cancelled (as Kamiya wanted to direct a title for the PS2 instead), simply so the game would have a connection warranting a numbered designation. Nothing to do with Sony either, it was entirely to do with fan expectations.
>>728487048Um no, zombie gunkata is lame actually.
>>728481129I self insert as Chris and like to give him harems of women.
>>728480616>but leon and jill is the duo people truly wantI want a scenario where Leon meets Jill in Raccoon City instead.
>>728480407That's not Leon and will never be Leon
>>728480407>>728486753Why are Chrisfags so delusional?Of the games in your image, Chris is only the protagonist in 2 of them (not counting a DLC as a game here), the rest he barely qualifies as a protagonist and has less than half the sceentime compared to other characters (Signified by the titles that are cut in half).>b-but what about Leon RE6He's far more relevant to 6 than Chris is.He has his own scenario.The main conspiracy is one connected to the US Government and Leon's storyline.The main antagonists are Leon's higher up (who is obsessed with Ada) and Ada's clone.The other protagonists include only returning RE2 characters that Leon knows, including his main romantic interest.The final scenario is one explicitly focused on Leon's main romantic interest.
>>728487126Nah, you just have shit taste
>>728480407trve
>>728480616Chris isnt the most popular but he is the main character and that isnt forced, storywise it makes sense for Chris to appear more since he founded the BSAA and leads them in the frontlines while Leon is a secret service agent who happens to fight Bioweapons but thats not his main focus
>>728487735>but he is the main character and that isnt forced,Yes it fucking is. His appearances in RE7 and 8 are the most forced shit in the entire damn franchise.
>>728483060nina valentine
>>728480802Honestly would be an improvement. It looks like he got hit by an aging ray rather than changing from the passage of time.
>>728481479
>>728481129Leon is for men and women. He is impossible to hate.
>>728487126>zombie gunkata is lame>gunkata isn't
>>728487048>Magical Infinite ammo pistols
>>728487857As retarded as the story for those games are it makes sense for Chris to be involved in possible biohazard outbreaks since he's been on the frontlines of them since Raccoon City. I'd argue Leon stumbling upon the Las Plagas in RE4 is more "forced" since his primary mission is to get the president's daughter back from being kidnapped.
>>728487914I wish Jill would hooligan combo grab me
a bunch of bandwagoner/illegal immigrants think leon and president daughterbut chris/wesker are the mains of re, always will be
>>728486903>6 games in 10 years>that’s itMeanwhile it’s been 7 years since DMC5 and still no sign of a sequel. RE fans don’t know how spoiled they are.
>>728480681yeah, it's in the name>Resident EVILLeon and Chris aren't evil.
So what the fuck is Jill up to with her newly established immortality? Did the Death Island movie explain it or some shit? What does she even DO currently?
>>728489916play the piano
>>728487857There was a giant BOW at the end of 7 and he was pursuing Miranda in 8, why wouldnt he be there when thats his job a job that he himself created
>>728481479Capcom already confirmed that Leon is the strongest.
>>728488946If anyone is forced into RE4 it's Ada Wong. That bitch needs to be always in every game Leon appears in.
>>728480407Chris is the star of the A story (Umbrella, Wesker, BSAA), Leon is the B story star
>>728490331he gotta have someone to simp for that is his raison d'etre
People be discussing this series like anyone at Capcom really gives a fuck.
>>728490458>Wesker is the star of the A story (Umbrella, Wesker, BSAA), Leon is the AA story star (the shit people want to see)It's all build-up to Leon vs Wesker because Chris keeps failing to put him down lmao.
>>728480802that would make him look super gay
>>728490661>It's all build-up to Leon vs WeskerWesker doesn't give a single fuck about Leon
>>728488802>clearly extended mags was used which could hold 21 rounds >webm only show him shooting 16 times
>>728480616Where the fuck is Tofu?
>>728480407Chris is just a more interesting character than Leon. The problem is, once Wesker died, they completely struggled to figure out what to do with Chris direction wise. When the clear answer was to just put him in charge of the BSAA and soft retire as the Big Boss who comes out when they need the big guns in the field.
>>728490790And Capcom gives a single fuck about money.
>>728488946>>728490019>I'd argue Leon stumbling upon the Las Plagas in RE4 is more "forced" since his primary mission is to get the president's daughter back from being kidnapped.That was the entire point.Leon was a top agent and he was given the best lead. That lead was planted to lead a government agent there so they would get infected and remain there until the plagas took over before being sent back to the USA with Ashley. Chris is just irrelevant in 7 and 8. They had to invent several different reasons for why he is even around in RE7 and nobody here could even remotely justify his appearance there, and his role in RE8 is absurdly baffling to anyone with a brain.
>>728489782>You're so spoiled because you get constant remakesRemakes suck, and anyone who acts like they're a good thing has simply never had to live with them.The past decade of RE with these remakes has led to the franchise canon being so thoroughly raped that RE9 is a sequel to the remakes instead of the actual main games.
>>728490924>Chris is just a more interesting character than LeonChris is literally the most boring main character in the series.
People need to treat RE4 Leon as its own thing. Yes, he was an extremely fun character but Leon will never be like that again.
I like how they have to keep trying to get people to give a shit about Chris by trying to turn him into some super cool operator commando character with a whole team of badass delta force dudes with codenames.And then Leon literally just steps out of a car and there's compilations of female streamers watching the game awards being brought to orgasm by him showing up on screen, and almost all of RE9's press traffic up till now was just talking about if Leon was going to show up or not.
>>728489782you can still make combo mads in dmcv
>>728489782You want spoiled? go look at Monster Hunter.
>>728491069Literally no one, not even your mother cares about the overarching story of Resident Evil. The remakes are absurdly high quality games, pretty much the best games in the series next to original RE4. You are such a crybaby and entitled to exactly getting what you want it's unreal.
>>728491596>The remakes are absurdly high quality gamesThey aren't that either.They're primarily asset flips with gameplay that's pretty fucking shit compared to the games they're remakes of.You'll probably understand that once they remake DMC1 and 3 so that they look like asset flips of whatever the newest DMC game is, with their gameplay mechanics homogenized into whatever DMC has decided it is this week
>>728488802...canonically exist in RE
>>728491781The only asset flip is RE3make. RE1make, RE2make and RE4make are easily in the top 50 game of all time.
>>728486753>Resident Evil 6>Sidelined by Leon6's plot is so retarded that I just see it as all the protags equally running around like headless chickens and stumbling upon a villain.
>>728491781>>728491879you both don't know the meaning of asset flip and should stop polluting the internet with your dumb shit
>>728489916This is all because of that jank custom-made t-virus cure from the hospital in RE3. Why don't people sell Jill blood for immortality?
>>728491946The truth of the matter is the real protagonist of 6 is Ada.
I like Leon,Chris,Jill,Claire, Becca, Barry and I like Wesker. Also Hunk and Ada.
>>728491879>>728491986RE:2 lifts a lot of assets from RE7 (probably why it ends up spending a third of its runtime in a murky sewer that looks like a cross between a swamp and RE7's boat area, all while cutting several more varied environments entirely), and RE:4 lifts a lot from Village (and then charges you $20 for all the areas it cut).
>>728489916It's really just an excuse to justify using her R3Make look for Death Island as they didn't wanna design a new design. Revelations/Lost in Nightmares Jill is still her best designThey handwave it away with saying that all the virus stuff she's been injected with over the years has slowed down her ageing and up until the events of Death Island, the BSAA were keeping her in labs for testing until she was deemed essentially clear post RE5.
>>728492091>a lotLike 80% of assets are still original. Asset flip at the very least implies a majority of assets being reused. The original areas + all weapons and enemies being completely original easily covers that.
>>728480407they should have stopped at re8. diminicus's big butt was a nice final gift. capcom is a studio that milks its characters. the devs will milk the franchise until the characters are 80 years old...
>>728488802Leon's Sentinel Nine has an extended clipazine for specifically these kinds of situations where he needs to make continuous shots without reloading. Like the Silver Ghost it's designed to be used in the kind of problems Leon faces on a weekly basis but at least more on a budget since it's just a SIG P226 which is already a very widespread and adopted pistol, rather than the customized USP or the 1911s he uses in other situations.
>>728492263>The original areasIt's really just the RPD and the very limited handful of streets that are largely unique with their assets.Everything else is transparently lifting from RE7, which is why you don't visit most areas past the RPD in the original, and the two you do end up looking nothing like their original counterparts at all (sewers and lab)
>>728490998>They had to invent several different reasons for why he is even around in RE7 and nobody here could even remotely justify his appearance thereHis appearance in 7 was fanservice >and his role in RE8 is absurdly baffling to anyone with a brain.Youre retarded he is the one chasing Miranda and that Village was like ground zero or something like that for BOW, Chris is 100% needed in 8 and he is the main character and face of the franchise, him not being as popular as Leon and Jill is another thing
>>728481129/thread
>>728492182The makers of death island said they based it off remake jill becasue that was the latest version of jill people would have seen. There is tiny differences between the models you see them in the making of death island, its like 3 grey hairs and a tiny scar I think.
>>728492392So every situation?
I like Rebecca. That is my addition to this conversation.
>>728481617GoombaCHADS we fucking won
>>728492471>Youre retarded he is the one chasing MirandaWho was invented for this game, even ignoring the idea of "Why does it have to be Chris?">Chris is 100% needed in 8 and he is the main character and face of the franchise,No he isn't, this idea is purely some Chrisfag delusion.Leon is the face of the franchise. Whenever Leon shares the screen with Chris, he is more important at all times. Chris is barely even a main character prior to RE5, he only appears in two fucking games as a playable character before that point, three if you really want to count Umbrella Chronicles, and of those, he is a secondary character in all three of them.
>>728492420The sewers and the lab were always extremely generic parts, the streets in the beginning and the RPD are by far the highlight in terms of looks and aesthetics. And the RPG easily accounts for 60% of the game. You are also not mentioning at all how much detail there is in the zombies which makes it extremely insulting to call the game an asset flip of RE7 which has the worst enemies in the game.Also you didn't try to rebuke RE4make at all so you tend to agree it's extremely heavy and nitpicky to call that game an asset flip since it's a really huge game and they even made the island part that looked like shit in the original extremely cool looking in the remake.
I'm starting to see Jillfags and Leonfags are the same people.
>>728492669Chris was the one that got to kill Wesker, he is the guy who defeated the main villain. I don't think there is a true main character anymore but that has to count for something. Leon has always been fighting other threats.
Chris is the type of guy to let leon be main as he doesnt care. He only cares about one thing. The impregnation of his sister.
>>728492385don't worry they won't really have anything left after re9nobody cares about ethan
>>728493012Chris just doesn't have much gas left because he already brutally killed the central antagonist. He should be the Director of the BSAA and should be referenced in emails and phone calls and heard on the radio. He's like 55 years old, he smokes, and he's still cleaning up messes. They made the creative decision to continually age the characters realistically, at some point they can't be doing motorcycle backflip kicks into monsters. Not a Hero was a mistake. Chris should be a guy answering calls and managing cases. Leon and Chris should both be married and settled down doing back office shit.
>>728493012He doesn't care anymore as he failed in his mission long ago.He failed in the first timeline to get Clair impregnated and so he caused the reset of the world. Yet even the remake eggs of Clair are now also barren and infertile. It's over.
>>728493178and they should make sherry/jake the new protags
>>728492518Well it's more like he didn't have time for anything else so it's more useful that his one gun can do more. Or in situations where he might not want to be carrying a bigger gun like the tourist attraction at Alcatraz.In Damnation where he's going into an active warzone, he has a rifle so he's using a 1911 rather than worrying about his handgun needing so many rounds.Similarly in Vendetta and Infinite Darkness he swaps to a magnum for the final battle because it's standard RE procedure to dump all your best ammo on the final boss.Either way, tactical modular pistols are in vogue and Resident Evil has always been very sensitive to different vibes in pop culture.
>>728493293Sherry is 40 years old lolShe was 27 in 2012 during RE6They need a new cast I don't want to see every character an eternally lonely childless loser in a leather jacket Even Claire's VA in Rev2 seemed to comprehend how utterly empty her life was, all her lines are delivered with such an emptiness it's palpable. Shes fucking miserable.
>>728481417Boulder punching asshole Chris will never be retcon.
>>728493178See I wouldn't even blame it on Not a Hero. The problem with them not knowing what to do with Chris started with 6, arguably Revelations. They wrote Chris as the guy who'll never quit the job, despite realistically he should've soft retired. But instead of setting Piers up as Chris' protégé in 6, they go the route of Chris getting depressed he keeps getting people killed. Something that was already his arc going into 5 according to the old live action promotional material and then proceeded to kill Piers off.A sheer lack of faith in any of the new characters they introduce and constantly trying to fall back on the old fan favourites is doing nothing but fucking over those fan favourites. If people generally think Leon is gonna get through 9 without some form of character assassination of terrible writing, then they've learned nothing from the past 3 mainline games handling of Chris.And this time, Chris isn't around to take the brunt of the bad writing for Leon like in 6.
>>728493456So youd be in rev2 all happy go lucky!!! Kek
>>728480407Chris has always been the undisputed main character of the series.
>>728493518they just made chris, bigboss which is fine
>>728493534It's resident evil, she had pep in her step even when she was in raccoon city, she's characterized as a total loser and it depressed me. They even made her potential boyfriend evil. It's just sad, man.
>>728493543Except after the most popular games in the series, 2 and 4 came out.
>>728492717>The sewers and the lab were always extremely generic partsThey looked distinct from anything in RE1 was the difference, and the sewers weren't a third of the fucking game.>the streets in the beginning and the RPD are by far the highlight in terms of looks and aesthetics.Which is why everyone immediately complained about the Marshalling Yard being cut and the streets being cut down to less than half the size back when it came out.>You are also not mentioning at all how much detail there is in the zombies which makes it extremely insulting to call the game an asset flip of RE7 which has the worst enemies in the game.I suppose it's hard not to mention it when they're basically the only enemies in the fucking game.All you got outside them are about three dogs and ten lickers (molded reskin btw), and then every enemy is a fucking zombie because they had shitall for ideas. Even the ivies are zombies, just covered in plants.>Also you didn't try to rebuke RE4make at all You didn't seem to be responding to that one, but yeah, RE:4 is transparently using a lot of Village assets.
>>728493703Years of being in that world would do it to anyone.
>>728491345Since 8 actually had him not lose an entire squad for once, I wonder if they're going to try and make us care about them next time they show up.
>>728492816>Chris was the one that got to kill Wesker, he is the guy who defeated the main villain.Wesker only became "the main villain" in RE5 lol.The main villain was Umbrella and Spencer.
>>728493891>Since 8 actually had him not lose an entire squad for once, I wonder if they're going to try and make us care about them next time they show up.The only reason they were in RE8 was because they were Re:verse characters.
>>728491345None of them get to fucking do anything and chris is too old It's too late to hop on the operator trend anyway, it's played out
Chris is a husk Leon has SOVL
Leon is the protagonist of RE2 has always been the incorrect take. Leon's just the side character to Claire's adventure, who's the actual protagonist because she's got the connection to the RE1 cast and is the one directly dealing with the Birkin family story via Sherry.Leon isn't a protagonist of a game until 4.
>>728492385>Resident Evil 79: So Very Tired
>>728493456>Shes fucking miserableYou would be too if your prime love interest kept chasing better pussy while all your rebounds got infected and turned into monsters.
>>728494252Remakes fixed this thoughbeit
>>728494252That's bull->Canon route is Claire A/Leon BNevermind.
>>728480616> Rebecca that high after all this timeCapcom continues to deny me a new game with her as the main character
>>728490897The main protagonist of resident evil 2.
>>7284942524 is a side character story itselfLeon is the side character, he's just cooler and has more enjoyable entries
>>728493868>They looked distinct from anything in RE1 was the differenceThey still do.>Which is why everyone immediately complained about the Marshalling Yard being cut and the streets being cut down to less than half the size back when it came outExtremely minor parts, the game has extended more areas than it has cut them.>I suppose it's hard not to mention it when they're basically the only enemies in the fucking gameThey are the most important enemy by far next to Mr X and both are massively upgraded from their original appearance, literally lightyears apart in substance. Also all the non boss enemies are reused from RE1 in RE2 to begin with so your complaint about the other enemies is so fucking dumb it's unreal. Lickers were always just hunters under the hood.Also the zombies being amazingly made in a Resident Evil game is hard to mention? Get the fuck out of here you bitter faggot.>RE:4 is transparently using a lot of Village assetsYeah, less than 20% for sure.
>>728494252so your saying he should carry on the redfield bloodline...
>>728494252Completely subjective. Most RE2 playthroughs were likely Leon A and not even bothering to do Claire B. The parts you're talking about were completely superfluous to the kid renting the game from Blockbuster and wanting to play as the cool cop guy.
>>728480616https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqsh1GSJAdw
>>728487048Doesn't "kino" mean good thing? This is retarded
I'm pretty sure the fact that Leon is so popular that despite not even being in that many games or even the lead character is more indicative of the absolute STATE of the other RE protags
>>728494625>They still do.The sewers and lab just look like reused lategame RE7 assets. >Extremely minor parts, the game has extended more areas than it has cut them.It cut every area that aren't the RPD, sewers, and lab, and then forced you to dick around in the sewers for a third of the game when it was only about fifteen minutes long originally, simply because they had enough assets to recycle into that.>They are the most important enemy by far next to Mr XIn the remake, where they devoted all the dev time to them instead of making other enemies. It's funny how mad you got about that one though, like you realized that RE:2 really only has one fucking enemy type outside of its bosses and the very OCCASIONAL licker appearance. It's just Zombies: The Game!And it's fucking boring because of it.
>>728491781>asset flipYou dont understand what you are sayingWhy the fuck is that your complaint? Thats the most retarded thing ive heard as a criticism of resident evil. That is so unfathomable stupid that you have to be trolling. I refuse to believe you are that dumb
>>728489916It's not immortality, she just ages very slowly due to the way the virus interfaced with her own biological matter. And this has been well known for a while now (or rather, heavily speculated).
>>728487048Why doesn't Leon ever use his trusty shotguns in these movies?
>>728481129Who's for straight men?
>>728495290Bruce McGivern
>>728489465>We can never have this Jill again
>>728494951>The sewers and lab just look like reused lategame RE7 assets.Extremely generic settings, doesn't matter. Also even if the lab uses reused assets it looks completely different to the lab parts in RE7 for obvious reasons.>It cut every area that aren't the RPD, sewers, and lab,And the streets. So it didn't cut 99% and even extended those areas for the most part. >In the remake, where they devoted all the dev time to them instead of making other enemiesThe other enemies still exist but just are not the focus which is fine.>It's funny how mad you got about that one thoughIt's funny how dismissive you get about zombies being the highlight of a Resident Evil game. I mean why are you even here?>like you realized that RE:2 really only has one fucking enemy type outside of its bosses and the very OCCASIONAL licker appearanceSo just like the original.>It's just Zombies: The Game!And it's fucking boring because of it.Wow Resident Evil is just zombies the game and that makes it boring. What a statement, lmao.
>>728494908You just can't beat a guy who backflips any time he gets an opportunity to do so and meets danger with a roundhouse kick. He gets most of his popularity boost from starring in 4 and that game being available on pretty much everything helped a ton.
We deserved something like 5 but Chris and Leon buddy co op adventure instead of any of the 6 and beyond trash.
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>>728495653Her appearance was peak retardation just like all of RE5.
>>728495616Sorry, pal. Best we can do is a CGI movie.
>>728495616Do you realize how racist it'll be for Leon and Chris to teamup in 5 and punch a bunch of niggers as WHITE men!?
>>728494951>reused assetsWhy wouldnt they do this? From an in universe perspective, only a handful of manufacturers are making those. As far as clutter goes, that ties the games together. Once again only a few manufactures exist to make the goods. It makes sense from a lore perspective to reuse the assetsFor a irl standpoint, it also makes sense, why the fuck would you not do that? Youre fighting in the same lab that the same company owns in the same universe, its stupid for it to look different. Not to mention the cost of redoing the exact same thing. Honestly this is a stupid complaint all around, I doubt thats even your opinion. Im guessing you heard someone talking about it and decided to take that as your opinion?
>>728495404>Extremely generic settings,-in the remake.>And the streets. So it didn't cut 99% Most of the streets were cut in the remake. What is left is about two minutes of running through a couple heavily reimagined parts of the streets with none of the same attention to detail to them.>The other enemies still exist but just are not the focus which is fine.No they don't. No spiders, no crows, no real ivies, evolved forms of both the lickers and the ivies are cut, lickers barely exist in the remake, no moth, and if you were being honest you'd say Ivies were cut as well, since they were. The ones in the remake are literally just zombie reskins. >It's funny how dismissive you get about zombies being the highlight of a Resident Evil gameThey aren't. They're the jobber enemy type, not the main focus (almost like the remakes are made by incompetents).Most RE games divert to more dangerous enemy types being the focus, they don't just have you fight zombies right into the final moments of the fucking game.
>>728487735>storywise it makes sense for Chris to appear more since he founded the BSAA and leads them in the frontlines while Leon is a secret service agent who happens to fight Bioweapons but thats not his main focusMajority want Resident Evil to be the latter.
The funniest thing I saw in an RE thread yesterday was somebody pointing out that the achievement stats for the RE2 remake show that something like 50% of Steam owners beat Leon's campaign but only 35% bothered to beat Claire's.And in RE6 40% of people beat Leon's campaign which is 1% more than people even trying to beat the first chapter of Chris's campaign.
I like Chris.
I like Jill the most, she has the best n*de mods after aerith.
>>728496117>-in the remake.In the entire series.>Most of the streets were cut in the remake. Extremely minor part of the game that was explored and the main focus of 3.>No spiders, no crowsReused from RE1 like all other enemies and they were 10 seconds in the original, mostly as decoration.>evolved forms of both the lickers and the ivies are cutEvovled lickers are just slightly buffed recolors. The base lickers are far more advanced than the lickers in the original.>say Ivies were cut as well, since they wereThey were changed and are way more fun enemies, just like the lab is far more fun in the remake than in the original.>They aren't. They're the jobber enemy type, not the main focusComplete retardation. You really are just baiting.>Most RE games divert to more dangerous enemy types being the focusNot really. They throw you new types but they are never a focus, just mixing things up. The base enemy is almost always used from start to finish in some form in literally every game except for maybe RE6 since I don't remember that game at all.
>>728480407>operation javier>didnt include fall of umbrella for chris
>>728494293>You would be too if your prime love interest kept chasing better pussy while all your rebounds got infected and turned into monsters.At least Book Claire got to be with Leon.
>>728487048>Doesn't "kino" mean good thing? This is retarded
>>728491497>spoiledYeah so spoiled when the last proper MH came out 20 years ago.
>>728493703So being with Leon IS the good ending.
>>728496917>In the entire series.The RE2 sewers were pretty fucking distinct I'd say, as were its labs. >Extremely minor part of the game that was explored and the main focus of 3.So it did get cut, but it's fine because uh... it just is?If the remake is so good, why is it just ditching entire aspects of the game? If it's not focused on asset flipping, why is it ditching things that actively require new assets? Why can't it expands these areas, why can it only expand a sewer that feels more like a murky swamp?>Reused from RE1 like all other enemies and they were 10 seconds in the original, mostly as decoration.Why couldn't the remake do it then. Why couldn't it expand on them. >Evovled lickers are just slightly buffed recolors. The base lickers are far more advanced than the lickers in the original.Why couldn't the remake do it then.Why couldn't they expand on them.You don't even respond to what I said about the ivies either.>They were changed and are way more fun enemies, just like the lab is far more fun in the remake than in the original.They aren't. They're just boring zombie reskins where you shoot the weakpoints for massive damage, and there's no real thought to it. The labs themselves are also just incredibly boring and samey in all four scenarios, which could not be said of the original.>Complete retardation. You really are just baiting.Yeah, I forgot that bit in RE1 where the labs had your grand escape be halted by generic jobber zombies instead of chimeras becoming the main threat.
>>728480407Rose is actually the main character
>>728497072You put so much effort into your self portrait that you didnt even reply to the right person
>>728496412Exactly. Leon's the protag because the audience wants him to be. Why ignore the money?
>>728496412Leon is the brad pitt of gaming. I have seen so many girls react with moans when he appeared during the trailer.
>>728497260>The RE2 sewers were pretty fucking distinct I'd say, as were its labs.Compared to what? The sewers and lab is also distinct in the remake. Your reused asset point is honestly completely irrelevant like the other anon said.>If the remake is so good, why is it just ditching entire aspects of the game?Why not? It remade the entire Mr X system to a far better system. Why are you not complaining about Mr X being only used in canned scripted sequences like in the original? He now is a dynamic entity. Why are you not complaining about him being mechnically completely overworked? Why are you not complaining about the zombies being overworked. About the dynamic gore system? About them being lightyears ahead over the original? They are different, why are you not complaining since you hate change so much.>Why couldn't the remake do it then.They are free to change things. Again, why are you not complaining about the improved weapon handling, or the improved zombies? Those were also creative liberties taken.>Why couldn't the remake do it then.Again, why not complain about the positive changes? Your only argument is that something is different.>They aren't. They're just boring zombie reskins where you shoot the weakpoints for massive damageSo dozens of times more interesting than the ivies in the original.>chimeras becoming the main threatChimeras being a threat? A main one even? They come like in two rooms that are extremely easy to run trough. Meanwhile zombies and crimson heads have been the main threat for 90% of the game.
>>728490998>That was the entire pointNo, the point is that kidnapping the president's daughter and using her to infect the president with a mind altering parasite in a bid for world domination from a backwater village in Spain is absurd. Are they going to send mind control commands nearly 4000 miles across an ocean? Are people going to sit back and let the president make a bunch of executive orders that benefit the aforementioned backwater country in Spain without wondering what's going on? Shit is convoluted as fuck just so it would make sense in the context of RE being a game about bioterrorism and outbreaks.
>>728498030Are you saying Wesker's plan in 1 was not complete retardation convoluted mess?
>>728498030>Shit is convoluted as fuck just so it would make sense in the context of RE being a game about bioterrorism and outbreaks.It's not.The explanation is simple.Saddler is a useful idiot being fueled by the parasite's desire for constant growth.His plans only ever work because of Wesker's interference, as Wesker needs a dominant plaga sample, and he wants to get one without endangering the opportunity (like with Alexia, where she ended up dead and he needed to take Steve's body instead).
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>>728498128Selling bioweapons for personal profit? What's crazy about that?
>>728495616>was supposed to be chris and barry until muhracist
The only REs that matter are RE2, RE4 and RE9.
>>728498463Why did he have to pretend to be a good guy and lead everyone to his lab?
>>728498154>The explanation is simpleand yet you didn't address anything I posted
>>728498529Don't forget darkside chronicles.
>>728498535combat data to show the people he was selling bioweapons to
>>728498154So Saddler's body was actually the second time he's had to go for the next best thing. I need to finish CVX.
>>728497912>The sewers and lab is also distinct in the remakeThe Sewers aren't that distinct at all actually.They look like an RE7 area and structurally they're just a retread of level design ideas from the RPD, and they're incredibly boring.The lab is just a linear series of halls, not unlike most of RE7.>It remade the entire Mr X system to a far better system.Not really.It made him a forced obstacle in every scenario that overstays its welcome by the second one. He becomes intensely predictable with even one replay and is incredibly easy to route, and offers no challenge because you are given zero incentive to engage with him. Your only option is to just run around him, because the game actively discourages all other methods of engagement, so he's not even as good as Nemesis.There, I complained about him, I think he is a shortsighted and very poor gameplay 'addition', and he even saps drama and pathos from the title, like how Marvin's zombified state is typically discovered alongside Mr. X stomping around (though Leon's limp reaction to that already ruined the moment).>About the dynamic gore system? About them being lightyears ahead over the original?I don't really care if it comes at the cost of enemy variety. The dynamic gore system is just a novelty really and RE:3 showed how little it added to the game by simplifying it down so hard and still retaining all of its gameplay functionality.>They are free to change thingsThey removed it actually. >improved weapon handlingNo? Weapons feel like shit generally, and the generic weapon sway is really all that's added. >dozens of times more interestingThey don't evolve for a start and they're functionally just OHKO zombies. Ivies had dynamic interactions with the player originally, now they're set enemies that are just reskins.>Chimeras being a threat? A main one even?Yeah, they're what attack you for most of the second half of the lab and as you are escaping.>crimson headslol retard
>>728498535combat data for his ULTIMATE LIFEFORM, tyrant
>>728498625But his niggers got all destroyed. I would never buy from Wesker after seeing that pathetic performance.
>>728498625>Bioweapons loses to a bunch of fake swat people from a town in the middle of nowhere I dunno bro I think Wesker probably couldn't sell it
>>728498753Pretty sure his plan wasn't to lose, you're arguing what happened over what he intended.
>>728498650>The Sewers aren't that distinct at all actually.Yes they are. The sewer part in RE7 is extremely minor walking simulator part.>The lab is just a linear series of hallsMore like killrooms attached to each other.>Not really.Yes it did. The original appearance was extremely pathetic. You are mentioning mechanics that actually can be engaged with unlike the original. What is your argument? That the original is remotely better? Because you are just complaining about systems but with what comparison in mind? The original? >so he's not even as good as Nemesis.Nemesis was in RE2? Interesting. I remember it differently.>I don't really care if it comes at the cost of enemy variety.There was never such a thing. The zombies are deeper in complexity than all enemies from the original combined.>They removed it actually.Yes removal is still a change.>No? Weapons feel like shit generally, and the generic weapon sway is really all that's added.No they feel great, explicitly in combination with the zombies. How weapons feel is always a mix of handling + reactivity of the enemies which is amazing with the zombies.>They don't evolve for a start and they're functionally just OHKO zombiesThey play with environment which is much more than can be said about the original ivies.>Yeah, they're what attack you for most of the second half of the lab and as you are escaping.So at the part of the game where you're loaded with healing items and ammunition making them completely irrelevant one way or another. The parts were you are struggling with resources are all with zombies.>lol retardThe cuck that hates zombies in a zombie game strikes agian.
>>728481129sure he ishttps://files.catbox.moe/7q9gfz.jpg
>>728492392>just a SIG P226>rather than a custom USPFirst of all the SIG P226 is one of the greatest pistols of the modern era. The USP is H&K junk. There is a reason literally no one adopted the plastic framed gun made by a German law firm that specializes in suing countries into using their gun chambered in the boomer round. And there is a reason the P226 was an international standard for so long. P226 in single-action is one of the smoothest shooting experiences with a glass like break on the trigger. It is pure KINO in every regard. The only issue is they are fairly expensive. The P226 in SAO with the Equinox finish is my gunfu. The only people who like H&K are people who are legally obligated to like it due to either a settlement/court order or people who only watch hollywood movies/have never shot a gun.
>>728499767Hope you don't have butterfingers.
>>728499987The P226 doesn't have any issues. It has a firing pin lock. Only the P320 had issues with its gen 1 and the P320 is an objectively inferior design. They took a low cost hammer fire gun and just slapped in a striker without any design considerations. It has a high bore axis, a shit trigger and it looks like shit. Just a gun designed to win government contracts and nothing else. It is easily the worst thing they've ever made. P365 XL is a striker fired gun that was designed around a striker system if you're some weird striker-fetishist though.
>>728487048As much as I enjoyed the CGI movies they feel like plots for discarded entries. As I watch them I wish I could grab a controller and play.
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>>728499767>The USP is H&K junkI'll take "H&K junk" over a gun that will accidentally discharge on its own
Leon's the Batman of Resident Evil.
>>728500596I wouldn't. The P320 will at least go bang. The H&K pistol will fail on you and then when you talk about it online they'll send a hitsquad to your house to flashbang you and shoot your dog. But we're not talking about the P320. We're comparing literal dumpster-tier garbage H&K USP vs one of the greatest pistols ever built the P226.
>>728499334>ESL can't read and thinks I said Nemesis was in 2Anyways, I'm tired. You can have your last word over how games you've never played are worse than the only games you've played in this series.
>>728480407The main problem with Chris is they're trying too hard to get people to make people think he's as cool as Leon, especially since the first time he was back in the spotlight was RE5.In RE1, where he had to share the spotlight with the far more popular Jill, and playing second fiddle to his sister in CV. So he had really gone a good number of years without a starring role, and in RE5 where he was still just kind of a late 00s generic shooter meathead with a crewcut. On top of all of RE5's other problems.Now over the last 10-15 years since RE6 they're trying this bullshit to make him the Resident Evil version of Captain Price or Big Boss, with half-assed tragedies and going rogue with his loyal squad to fight the BSAA, which arbitrarily had a villain turn for reasons instead of ever following any of the plotlines they constantly set up about the organization being compromised by pharmaceutical BOW companies they decided to rehash the Umbrella bullshit again and just flip it into being "Good Umbrella" vs "Evil BSAA." Trying too hard to aura farm or whatever the zoomers call it. People will immediately detect when you're trying to force them to like something or force pathos.>And then in RE Requiem:Here's Leon, still works the same job he's been at for the last 25 years, doctor tells him he needs to lay off the pasta and booze despite his active lifestyle, he's got a new jacket and drives a Porsche now. Silliest indulgence demonstrated so far is him using a chainsaw against his enemies.Watch it effortlessly be the the fastest selling non-remake RE in franchise history, since RE2make and RE4make's records are probably going to be unassailable for some time.
>>728500775Let's not pretend we didn't both waste our time with this garbage. Yesterday I had this kind of pointless argument and I swore never again. Today I wasted again hours on this kind of shit. Literal mental illness.
This will forever be the RE gun no matter what zoomers and babies say Barry made the custom versions for STARS, everyone had one in the Department. Leon's special boy gun is cool, but this is the Coke Classic. It always will be, it even become a super mega gun in 7/8. No other answer is correct. This is just objective fact. And aesthetics wise the M9 is top tier even if it is a mediocre gun.
>>728500714>The P320 will at least go bangespecially when you're standing around on gate dutyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8n2rU137S4used to be you could argue that pitbulls are more dangerous than a gun because it takes a person to shoot a gun but now that's not the case
>>728501151>cop simpLMFAO. Anyway I'd never carry any striker-fire garbage, and especially not the P320. But keep moving those goalposts. We're talking about the P226 which is one of the best guns ever made and how the USP is a paperweight.
>>728501151>hand on the gun and trigger>WTF IT WENT OFF ON ITS OWN!Cops, not even once.
>>728501249>Anyway I'd never carry any striker-fire garbage, and especially not the P320So why be so defensive about them? You could have just agreed they were shit but here you are trying to paint other guns as worse when other guns don't have a documented history of bizarre unintended discharges
>>728501426The cop clearly has his hand on the gun. The P320 is a better gun than the USP. Cops are going to accidentally shoot themselves regardless of the gun they have. P226 > USP as well.
>>728501341>holster moves>his hand doesn't
>>728501512Yeah that's generally what happens when you shoot a gun, it moves and your hand doesn't. Since you're gripping it.
>>728501484>P320 is a better gun than the USPWill you carry one?
>>728480616Okay so everyone higher than 24 just got mogged by a zombie????????? Literally humiliation ritual
>>728501567if the whole holster is moving so would his hand, he wouldn't be able to just leave it there
>>728500691To be fair, Superman had his peak in popularity before the US dollar became toilet paper.
>>728500795The spotlight issue is a bit undermentioned imo. Chris hasn't got a single game where the spotlight is on him and only him, while Leon gets the spotlight all to himself in the game that is the undisputed face of the franchise.
>>728500939>even if it is a mediocre gun.Says fucking who?
>>728480407duh leon is more appealing to the female fantasy pretty boy and women watch more movies than play games so it makes sense he has less games and more movies than chris.
>>728501761Watch the clip. He immediately lats go of the firearm after he fires it. In shock that his actions have consequences lmfao. Cops are the dumbest motherfuckers alive.
>>728501932>Chris hasn't got a single game where the spotlight is on him and only himSheva is such a non-entity in 5 that any time Wesker tries to kill her instead of Chris in a cutscene, you know it's only to get even more under Chris's skin.
>>728501637>Will you carry one?Nope. They're gigantic, have a high boreaxis, striker fired and too thick to conceal.
>>728502082His hand stays firmly in place as the shot goes off, then he lets go, play it back at 0.25 speed
>>728500795Leon's cool because, putting aside his character and story, he's a much more flexible character than Chris. He's quick-witted, highly dexterous and agile, and he has an exceptional history of improvisation and adaptability. These are excellent qualities for a video game protagonist since they synergize extremely well with any kind of action-oriented gameplay.Chris, however, seems to have evolved in a manner to make him deliberately distinct from Leon. He's a huge, strong, manly man who can just punch the shit out of zombies. He's far more inclined towards big, powerful weapons. He's a tank. He doesn't really need to improvise as much as Leon does most of the time. In some ways, Chris's evolution seems directly at odds with standard Resident Evil gameplay. You can't just put him in a standard zombie infested mansion or backwater European village wtih zero outside support as easily as you could someone like Leon because Chris is the guy who always comes fully decked out in top-of-the-line military gear and arms thick enough to punch a hole through a zombie's face. Case in point, when you get to play as him in Village, it becomes a completely different game. Even in his DLC mission in RE7, there's a very distinct, extreme tonal shift because he's so much stronger and better-equipped than Ethan.
>>728502225Yeah humans are very slow to react relative to a gunshot.
>>728502160>NopeSo why defend them then?
>>728502324Correct, which is why his hand should be moving the moment the gun goes off if he was holding it
>>728502254>Even in his DLC mission in RE7, there's a very distinct, extreme tonal shift because he's so much stronger and better-equipped than Ethan.And then comes Leon in Requiem, who goes to the shithole where it all started, equipped with a hatchet and a pistol.
>>728502327Gen 1 had fault drop-safety 100%. But the gun can't go off while at rest without doing something that manipulates the trigger. It is mechanically impossible. The US Army, the US Airforce and the FBI just conducted a 9 month study on this and released their findings. I won't defend a shitty gun from being shit. But the gun can't go off on its own at rest. There is nothing mechanically about it that can cause that. If the pig really didn't pull the trigger, and just was resting his hand on the trigger, then he had something in his holster like his shirt and that tugged on the trigger or pushed it to the side when he put weight on his belt/holster. That's just a fact. The P320 is abject garbage but cops are born to ND and accidentally shoot themselves. It doesn't matter how safe the gun is. If he had dropped the gun I would believe it went off on its own because there IS a safety defect for the drop safety in gen 1s.
>>728502254I hated the Chris segment in Village. Not A Hero was a great first person adaptation of Chris's gameplay. His Village segment just felt like playing a COD campaign level.
>>728502680>I won't defend a shitty gun from being shityet here you are
>>728502789I mean, admittedly, Village is sort of what happens when Chris is allowed to actually bring his full A-game. He's not really someone you send in for solo missions with minimal equipment. Remembers, S.T.A.R.S was meant to be a proper military unit that worked together. Chris isn't really supposed to be Solid Snake, he's supposed to work with at least one other person. Leon's outfit's the weird one because his bosses keep sending him into highly deadly situations armed with literally nothing but a pistol. Chris wouldn't be caught dead in that sort of situation, he's usually far better prepared than Leon is.Like I said, Chris's evolution is weird. The only way you can force him into a proper RE scenario is by killing or otherwise cutting him off from his team prior to the start of the game every single time. He's not supposed to be a solo operative and he never was.
Every time you ask for more Jill, you'll just get Chris
>>728504708RE3make was received poorly. No shit Jill is off the table.
>>728502809I'm correcting a lie. A lie propogated by retarded cops that are horny for shooting themselves. Shit on the P320 all you want, it deserves it. But it cannot go off at rest on its own. Not possible.
>>728505026>I'm correcting a lieWhat's the proof that the unintended discharge was due to user error or anything other than gun design?
>>728505612The video you posted.
>>728505823What specifically? Why not just come out and say what it was?
>>728498529Remake1 matters cmon!
>>728504861There is no 3 remake, only a demake
>>728504861Not due to Jill, due to a lazy botched rushed remake, they even cut back on zombie dismemberment damage etc.
>>728493293It should be Jill and Jake so that they never have to age the protagonists again
Am I insane but wasnt re9 rumoured to feature "open world" style bigger outdoor levels in the city? Im sure thats what the devs awhile back in some showcase? Or has that been scraped or we dont know?
>>728501716Everyone higher than 14*
>>728507239They've been lying about content since the leaks started. We don't know. It looks like 3 different games depending on what part of the trailer you're watching.
>>728480407How much longer do we have to wait for the Leon/Chris RE5-esque co-op game?
>>728492669Cope anon I like Leon more but Chris is the face of the franchise and before you reply with muh RE5 that was 2009 he's been the face for 16 years already and it's not going to change nor should it
>>728507239think metroid 4you will drive the wasteland between hub areas in your porsche cayanne (ev)
>>728505969I showed you a screenshot. The pig puts his hand on the gun, then the gun goes off, and he takes his hand off the gun. The simplest explanation is often the truest.
I only like RE2 and RE5
>>728508284So guns go off just by people touching them? I could have sworn someone claimed a trigger pull has to happen.
>>728480407Chris is too boring, Jill should be the face of the franchise and I say this as a proud misogynist. You can put Chris on call of duty, medal of honor, battlefield and he wouldn't be out of place. His whole personality is just that he is the soldier dude and that's it.
I FUCKING LOVE RE5 that's all
This Chris vs Leon shit reeks of tourists
brapcom is gay as fuck for not giving us a Leon/Jill game. What the fuck are they thinking?
>>728509587chris and jillleon and claire pregnant
>>728496412I only beat Claires run like two and a half years after I did Leons lol
>>728507663Leon is the face of the franchise lol.Leon has three (now four) numbered, mainline titles and the lead role in all four CG films and the CG tv series. Leon is the person everyone asks for when the topic of crossovers comes up. Leon is who people think of when Resident Evil is brought up.Chris is just the guy that gets thrown in whenever Capcom needs to tie things to other games- not because he's important but because he's generic. That's why his character is completely different in every game, because it doesn't matter. If they did this with Leon, there'd be riots, if they did this with Jill people would go nuts (and if they did it with Claire, nobody would care). But Chris is just generic enough that they can do it. He's generic soldierman with no personality or real staying power.But Leon is the face of the franchise. He always was and he always will be.
>>728509587Death Island was poorly received, and so was Remake 3. There's your answer.
>>728508559There isn't enough resolution to see what his fingers are doing. But yea guns only go off when you hold them typically. He did something to depress the trigger and it went off. That's how guns work. That's the only way the P320 works. There are only 2 ways the P320 can go off. He drops it at the perfect angle on its rear plate or he manipulates the trigger. That's it. There is no secret third option based on its mechanical design. You must be a cop lmfao.
>Chris was the original protagonist from the first game (alongside Jill ofc)>Leon first appears in the 4th game and after many spinoffsdude le hahaha leon is le sideline and chris rally is the main charactr haha
>>728480407Only faggot like chris
>>728510874>There isn't enough resolution to see what his fingers are doing>He did something to depress the triggerConflicting statements if you ask me. In any case how do you know he even has access to the trigger without having the gun drawn?>There is no secret third option based on its mechanical designhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20JTv_KAfdI#t=356
>>728510951Leon appears in the second game and is the main character of it, unlike Chris who is overshadowed by Jill
>>728480616people want Julia Voth Jill not demake Milla Jovovich wannabe hoe
>>728480407The parts with chris in 7 and village were the worst segments of those games
>>728510648>Death Island was poorly received, and so was Remake 3.>Remake 3 >Make a remake purposely botched and shortened for no reason>"Oh no, people don't like this game because Jill is in it"Market researchers and statisticians need to hang, they literally ruined everything just like (((shareholders))) did.
>>728480407its kind of fucking insane that after 5 Jill was practically never seen again, I wanted her and Chris to run around the world stopping bioterrorism together.
>>728515771Even Death Island sucked, and that was all about Jill.
>>728516693Didn´t she got sidelined by Leon in that movie?
>>728497072>You put so much effort into your self portrait that you didnt even reply to the right person
>>728517118The entire plot revolved around her, and even the collaboration between Leon and Jill was so well received that the film still remained focused on her. Fans of Leon may have voiced their love of his appearance, but that does not affect who the film's star was. You mean to tell me Jill got sidelined, yet people are asking for more Leon/Jill because of Death Island?
>>728503141The BSAA sent Chris to a remote African village and didn't even provide him a handgun until he was onsite.
>>728511215>drop safeMy guy, are you illiterate? He clearly didn't drop the gun. What he did do is wrap his hand around the grip and fiddle with it in the holster, which is why it went off. If he had dropped it the mystery would be solved. The only question is what did he do to depress the trigger. Did he stick his booger hook in the holster or did part of his shirt get into the holster when he last holstered the gun and the act of fiddling with it cause the trigger to be depressed.
>>728518389>He clearly didn't drop the gunIf you watch the rest of the video he did, which wasn't even the point. The point was there's a way to get the gun to fire with barely any trigger pressure and the slide being moved which would explain why the gun could have discharged just by moving around in a holster.>The only question is what did he do to depress the triggerSo show us the proof of what he did
