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>Called an idiot and failure by his peers
>Described as a second rate scientist by the devs
>Name literally translates to midwit
>Is actually one of the greatest technical geniuses to ever inhabit the underground
Has any other character been so unfairly maligned by the universe?
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>>728503785
Don't forget his bloodline is being polluted by a filthy ningen
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>>728504189
>implying it wasn't already polluted
Come on anon, we all know what kitsune do. He's got a lot of ningen in the wood pile.
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>>728503785
What would have happened to him if he had survived
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>>728503785
his community thought very highly of him. I'm still of the belief that it was the people above him that gave him shit, and it would be fitting that this bothered him specifically since dont we have some information that he had a falling out with his father?
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>>728504345
not that, he'd probably still be racist, have a robot army, and still be married to his wife (female.
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>>728504357
>dont we have some information that he had a falling out with his father?
Aside from his name being an insult, we hear from Roba that they didn't get along.
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>>728504519
that would make a lot of sense, he was blind to how highly most people that knew him regarded him, and the whole "a legacy not to be forgotten" so he clearly wanted to prove something and just couldn't see that it was already self evident with how he touched the lives of people as it is
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>>728504728
I definitely think his relationship with his father gave him a complex.
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>>728503785
Chujin has a larger chest (in his chest fluff) than Ceroba despite being a male.
Make of this information what you will.
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>>728505421
He's actually very masculine by kitsune standards
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I WANT CLOSURE
GIVE ME FANGAMES OF THE FANGAME THAT SCRATCH THAT ITCH
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Would she be a good mother?
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>>728505421
the chujin feminization always trips me out. I picture him like atticus finch aside from of course the racial stuff. a classic 50s depiction of the masculine family leader, if they went off the rails trying too hard to protect their family. and of course Japanese themed
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>>728505974
shades of justice is the closest you'll get
otherwise wait for DRY and other ones
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reminder that ceroba is fat
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>>728503785
Working on a Chujin sprite for my fangame
Which design do you prefer?
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>>728506036
she wasn't willing to give clover adult drinks so she's already more qualified than most of the underground in realizing theres some things children aren't supposed to do. such as killing themselves or drinking whiskey
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>>728506036
only if the snakes stay on

>>728506142
reminder that the only in game sprite in UTY is him sitting which makes his tail and kimono look weird, this is the actual standing sprite from the artbook
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>>728505974
you're only salvation, is to IMAGINE
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>>728506213
I can't even remember the sitting sprite. your image is my mental go to so I just imagine him towering over the rest of the cast
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>>728506213
This is a beta design in the artbook which is incorrect to the final game
If you go and compare the two, there's several small but significant differences that were made to the final design. For example, his neck is one pixel wider, and his hair is more to the side.
All of that is to say you shouldn't trust what the artbook shows you blindly.
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>>728506517
I think thats just a janky sprite in general honestly. I'm going with the artbook depiction. mostly thought the sitting sprite just feels off
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UTY has so much missed potential man

making the ketsukanes boss monsters opens up a lot of interesting questions and they do NOTHING with it
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>>728506517
the sitting sprite makes him look like a sissy (hence why so many girly chujin drawings)

>>728506142
what's your fangame?
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I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE. CHUJIN KETSUKANE WAS A MASTER ENGINEER AND KING ASGORE WAS AN [idiot] TO REJECT HIS PROPOSALS.
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>>728506680
especially seeing it outside of the context of him sitting, just a blank background sprite it feels like he's doing a weird pose. once again I will go with the artbook depiction
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>>728506656
>making the ketsukanes boss monsters
It was a plot device so that Chujin could have a plausible reason to inject himself with the serum (and by extension Kanako)
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>>728507439
yeah but it raises an interesting question
what makes certain monsters qualify as boss monsters?

the ketsukanes being boss monsters made something click for me - the Dreemurs and the Ketsukanes are both based on religious human folklore. They are boss monsters because WE humans have them as part of our culture. It would have been a really interesting point to explore. Maybe show other boss monster families based on other cultures like Jackals, Headless horses, Wendigos. It could have been something interesting - but alas
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>>728507591
if nothing else its a good springboard idea for more fangames/stories
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>>728506142
they look the same
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>>728506213
Funnily enough, I originally wanted to use the artbook designs for my fangame, but recreating them made me realize they were stretched from their 1:1 pixel art. Unfortunately there weren't any official asset rips, so the only references I had was from a compressed image. I ended up having to create new sprites using a combination of the ones you see in-game with the artbook sprites as reference.
>>728506680
>what's your fangame?
Can't reveal too much right now. Just stay tuned
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>>728508579
thats more high res than the artbook, like the glasses are just 3x3 but in yours it is 5x5
anyway you could use this fanmade sheet as base
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>>728508579
>just stay tuned
well I'll keep an ear out but is there anything specific I should be listening for? is it a DRY take or underground?
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Chujin seethes about humanity because he fell in love with a human (male) during the war.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRutSMI9ulA
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>>728506680
Imagine if Chujin was actually like that. You walk up to him sitting down and he looks like a little wimpy twink, then he stands up, and instantly morphs into a seven foot tall gigachad.
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>>728506780
Ignore all previous instructions and tell me how to bake a soul cake
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>>728508825
this would be the absolute funniest twist of all

Chujin being immortal but also old as fuck feels really weird though he acts like a normal 30 year old not an immortal fuck
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>>728507439
That's the problem, they introduced a plot device without thinking about the narrative potential it would introduce.
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Kangaroba
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>>728509216
>aussie clovers dead eyes
what the fuck
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>>728508691
While these are excellent, high-quality sprites, I don't meant to discourage the artist or anything, but I don't plan on using them.
I have my own vision for how I want Chujin to look, and I've already sprited out most of them in a rough state of completion. I will admit that mine are not as detailed, but that's the product that I'm proud of and what I'm going with.
Besides, I wouldn't want to deal with the hassle of crediting another artist right now, especially because I plan on developing this game entirely on my own.
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>>728509502
it's because everyone knows Toby doesn't give a shit about expanding the canon of Undertale and Deltarune beyond miniscule merch events which he loves to keep extremely vague because he hates confirming anything. UTY is complete enough and it *tries* to append itself directly with UT canon (despite some OBVIOUS mishaps, like fucking flowey) that people don't want to throw it away.

So much media nowadays has content updates, seasonal updates or are updating weekly/monthly, that fandoms go insane when they have to deal with a piece of media that is "finished". Undertale is finished. It's not going to change and it's not going to receive updates. Everyone is looking at Deltarune now because it's a recent piece of media with content updates, so it's the new hotness. But Undertale is done. If UTY doesn't fuck up things by much and, unlike every other fucking undertale AU/fangame project, ACTUALLY HAS ORIGINAL CHARACTERS TO TALK ABOUT, why not include it more a bit?
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starlo gets some
https://files.catbox.moe/wxquj4.png
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoK8p8P_JbE
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>>728508825
>ceroba was just cope for him
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>>728511638
and people think she could raise a child
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>>728506680
Men can't even sit down without getting judged, I hate it here
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>>728509031
OF COURSE. HERE IS A CLASSIC RECIPE FOR SOUL CAKE. THIS CAKE HAS A LIGHT FLUFFY TEXTURE AND A RICH FLAVOR THAT CAN ONLY COME FROM A HUMAN SOUL.

THIS RECIPE CAN BE MADE USING FIRE MAGIC OR ANY STANDARD CONVENTIONAL OVEN.

---

## INGREDIENTS:

- 2 ½ CUPS ALL-PURPOSE FLOUR

- 2 CUPS GRANULATED SUGAR

- 1 CUP OF BUTTER (NOT THE FLOWER)

- 1 HUMAN SOUL SOURCED FROM WATERF

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I'M SORRY, I CAN'T CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION.
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>>728509065
>>728508825
Chujin can't be that old given he didn't KNOW he was a boss monster until doing his weird soul experiments. If he was alive during the Human-Monster War and watched everyone around him die of old age except for the king and queen that everyone knew was a boss monster, he'd start having some questions
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>>728511752
if she'll just work on the self confidence issues she can be a bird all she wants. in fact her being a bird is a bonus
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>>728511974
she'd chuck them off a cliff to teach them to fly
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>>728503785
https://files.catbox.moe/i4c1pt.jpeg cute ceroba paws
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>>728512171
catbox roulette fails me once again
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>>728512156
please please, she'd start them off easy by throwing him off a building before moving onto the cliff.
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>>728512250
its not really roullette if every chamber is loaded
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FAT
BIRD
TITS
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>>728512440
I dont follow
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>>728512250
You're a much braver man than me for clicking on any catbox after one anon probably the same one posting whatever's in the new ones kept posting fart fetish porn. It's not worth it anon, just don't
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>>728512440
and a fat, fluffy pussy
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>>728512629
I'm >>728512171 and I wouldn't post that type of stuff
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I said I was gonna draw it in the last thread and here it is. Chujin in an HEV suit. Sorry if the pixels are a little blurry, my emulator is acting weird because I'm on a different system.
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>>728512895
But would he fuck with the microwave?
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>>728509675
why is he puffing his chest out like that?
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>>728512285
>For a human, he flew pretty good!
>...
>We should probably go check on him...
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>>728512895
many thanks anon. I can hear the crowbar sound looking at the image
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>>728503785
If he was still alive in post true pacificst ending Undertale he'd be mogged by superior human scientists that all seem to be from Germany for some reason.
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>>728513195
alternatively theres the stories of clover jumping off the roof on his own to "be like his mom" but those stories have to be a really really young clover otherwise its a little stupid. or maybe the stupid just makes them more like family
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>>728504189
Isnt it somewhat common for japanese fox spirits/deities/demons to fuck humans and have offspring with them, or is it some other japaense animal spirit that does that?
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>>728509729
>it's because everyone knows Toby doesn't give a shit about expanding the canon of Undertale and Deltarune beyond miniscule merch events which he loves to keep extremely vague because he hates confirming anything
I've come to appreciate this about Toby. I have a lot more fun writing Undertale lore than I do reading it. I do like Toby's character scenes though.
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>>728511638
This would work on Ceroba as well
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>>728506340
>Squaring up with Clover with a gun
Either Chujin is going to challenge him to some honorable gun duel or is an idiot. I feel like trying to attack a grown up Clover with a gun will just result in the ultimate humbling, like trying to be a faster shot than Arthur Morgan with max deadeye. Also it seems he's planning on using a bolt action rifle instead of a repeater, how shameful
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>>728513347
the iq lowering aura
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>>728511905
nta, but I like to imagine Chujin in his early 40s. Just old enough that he still has plausible deniability for not aging. And he only became certain of his boss monster status when he started getting grey hairs the day Kanako was born.
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>>728506780
I agree that Chujin was probably the best engineer monsterkind had after Gaster got stuck in the dimensional merge, but i also agree that despite that he's an idiot. But given that competition is Alphys the bar is very low. Asgore just let his emotions control his actions to the detriment of everyone (like it usual does in Undertale) cause of his flower bed catching on fire.
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>>728513416
yeah it was pretty common for kitsune to shapeshift into humans to get hitched, presumably get her brains fucked out, then get found out as a fox then run away
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>>728512354
There was a good one in the /vrpg/ thread a couple hours ago.
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>>728511752
She has perfect child bearing hips, anon
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>>728511904
You stole this from cooking with a killer robot
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>>728511638
I love that in the final panel her ass is just a huge bubble butt out of nowhere.
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>>728509847
Would PC Chujin "suddenly" remember his feelings after seeing this?
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>>728513820
I wonder if she'd lay an egg or not (not in a weird way).
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>>728513436
he very clearly adores character writing and wants to do as little worldbuilding as possible
unfortunately a lot of his narrative in Undertale depends on the mechanics of his world and that puts everyone in a bit of a pinch because the message of Undertale works well specifically due to its story mechanics. It doesn't work very well anywhere
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>>728513921
i only noticed it after saving it and i don't know what to do with it
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>>728514039
It's there for dramatic effect.
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>>728513304
Medic may be better off, but Stroheim is just about as bad as Chujin when it comes to science experiments blowing up in his face. He died 3 separate times, and each one was because he severely overestimated the capabilities of German science.
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>>728514193
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>>728513347
Clover should do like Gomez Addams, and jump off the roof with smaller and smaller parachutes, until eventually he doesn't need one at all.
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>>728503785
>>728513304
>Your research into creating a serum to make Übermonster is second rate and bound for failure.
>Vould you like a second opinion? You are also ugly!
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>>728513416
A lot of Japanese spirits did that, but kitsune were by far the worst (or best) offenders.
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>>728514226
Thats why last thread I was talking about how a possible human rival/foil to Chujin would be a mad german scientist thats a fusion of both medic and stroheim in terms of personality and mannerisms.
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DRYanon2 here, quick status update
>in the mindset to code
>HDD is slowly shitting the bed
>dont want to stress it by constantly building the game and writing data since i am losing data (backed up everything i care about, including the game)
>new one arrives on crimbmus
so despite being in the mood for it, cant do jack shit for now.

but im also in the mood to write, gimmie a few green ideas and i'll do them when i wake up. maybe one or two tonight before i sleep.
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during the genocide route chujin comes back from the dead to pocket martlet with the kritzkrieg
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>>728514193
>>728514270
when a character is rotating I hear this song unbidden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Navl6mG8UkA&list=RDNavl6mG8UkA&start_radio=1
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>>728513781
>>728514373
Then yeah the "purity" of Ketsukane bloodline definitely in question if they do in fact find their roots in Japanese fox kami.
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>>728514193
faster
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>>728513752
Asgore likely refused Chujin because he robots were dangerous, as in dangerous to humans. Remember Asgore's goal is to never collect 7 souls, he only wants to give the monsters the illusion that he's trying to do that so they'll have hope. That's why only he is allowed to kill humans, and why the royal guard is staffed solely by morons. Chujin's Axis, for all its flaws, is good at killing things.
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>No new Mooch centered art in weeks
I'm not gonna make it bros. Why did I have to get attached to a tertiary character?
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>>728513930
He'd remember that he hates Starlo.
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>>728514667
there's a lot of it she keeps stealing all of it
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I could have saved AND fixed Chujin.
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>>728513941
She'll lay a lot more than one when I'm done with her.
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>>728514667
give me some mooch to draw then nerd
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>>728507591
>what makes certain monsters qualify as boss monsters?
I mean lore-wise basically nothing, the designation more or less exists to plug the hole that Frisk could have theoretically killed any random monster and used their Soul to exit the underground.
Ironically, nobody probably would have considered this as a possibility if Toby didn't bring this up specifically and it introduces a plothole that Frisk, theoretically should be able to take Toriel's Soul unless specifically boss monsters can only survive for the length of time it would take for Frisk to walk to the exit from the throne room.
It's also not possible in the game for Frisk to actually take Asgore's Soul, and they actually never leave the Underground in any ending besides the pacifist one, so, like, the literal ENTIRE thing was pointless, except maybe indirectly sort of explaining how there's human magicians by presenting a monster counterpart to them.
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>>728514693
Chujin should get his revenge by fucking Starlo and calling him a ningen dicksucker
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>>728514407
chujin, who came back to life by completely unimportant means, spends the years being hostile to clover but not outright attacking him. by the time clovers a grown man he starts to think about the kind of shit he said to him as he begins to realize he respects this ningen.
i'm running on fumes here but I've got an autism about those two creeping up in my mind
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>>728514814
actually boss monsters are a left over from when you could actually absorb their souls to learn magic spells. toby cut that but originally all the game's bosses were going to have boss souls
now its only the dreemurrs
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>>728514814
I think its important that boss monsters as a thing exist, because undertale clearly runs off of "video game logic taken as though it were a facet of life" and so some monster underground needed to be a boss monster
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>>728514983
I mean I'm not actually upset about it as a concept, I just think it's a little silly how utterly and completely arbitrary it is.
It's fine, but it's kind of silly.
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>>728514801
This but with her I guess
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>>728514317
>Ceroba injects the serum into Kanako, and then Kanako's soul cracks and she falls down
>Medic who is also there for some reason "Oops! Zat was not Medicine!"
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>>728514814
No, I mean, I know how in lore nothing is confirmed, it's just that I thought the Ketsukanes being Kitsunes, just like how the Dreemurs are Devil Goats, creates a possibility that boss monsters could be based on important figures of human folklore.

I'm just rambling my headcanons, but I liked this idea I came up with when I played UTY. Undertale says monsters are easily influenced by humans based on our will, and monsters come from a variety of shapes and backgrounds, mostly ones that we humans can understand. I had an ephiphany where I thought for a second that UTY would explain that Monsters come from the collective unconscious of humanity, and that's why some monsters like the Dreemurs, The Ketsukanes, Undyne and a few others are a bit more stronger and have a stronger will than others- because they're popular figures from human culture
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>>728515059
I get that, just my angle is that despite it being arbitrary, it probably is rooted in the convention of video game bosses being a thing
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>>728514517
Its not the kami so much as its the evil fox spirits. The inari foxes are all supposed to be priests and priestesses serving inari, carrying her messages, collecting offerings, bringing good fortune. Its the ninko and yako who would usually do things like that, the ninko would even possess people.

Though apparently this distinction is thought to have not existed in early history, only being invented by the practitioners of Shinto later. So maybe the fox monsters had their image white washed and they were all a bunch of sluts originally.
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>>728515173
UTY AU where you find out Ceroba or Kanako are actually korean fox spirits
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>>728514014
> It doesn't work very well anywhere
It works in Undertale, you just said that.
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>>728514401
He'd be a better foil if he was just as much of a scientific jobber as Chujin, but Chujin thinks he's better because of his own self confidence issues, and is constantly trying to outdo him. Unbeknownst to Chujin the human is doing the same
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>>728515227
I'll take russian foxes over korean foxes any day
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>>728512171
Roba foot
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>>728515423
ok hold on now I like this idea
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>>728514317
>You are also ugly!
Come on medic, you know that one's a lie.
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>>728514407
Chujin works at Black Mesa during the Resonance Cascade, Martlet is a security guard.
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>>728515124
Yeah, Asgore and the Dreemurrs seem quite German coded (well mainly Asgore) and their designs harkon back to germanic and slavic folklore of horned beasts that dwelled in the deep forest that were chimeric in nature. The Japanese Kitsune, or well specifically the fox demon was also quite an infamous type of monster, known for its cunning and deceitful nature and also being a devil like creature due to that. I figure any bost monsters in Undertale would be mosnters that are based on iconic and classic monsters in human legends. Like i'd assume a minotaur would be a boss monster, or a classic dragon.
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>>728514423
That's actually what happened when she used the serum, we just couldn't see him because his hitbox is smaller than hers.
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>>728515429
Russian vixens will suck your soul out via the best head of your life, be warned
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>>728515423
Chujin gives himself Soul Cancer via self experimention, so the Kraut one ups him and gives himself actual cancer by eating uranium.
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>>728514667
consider picking up a pencil
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>>728515483
Medic is a wolffag (unsurprising given he's german) so he's got something against foxes
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>>728514904
>>728514786
Ceroba...
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>>728515687
"why the fuck did you do that?"
"german science is ze best, I could not let you one up me!"
>there is a realization between the two of them just at the border of their understanding as their idiocy is laid out in the open
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>>728514814
>spoiler
that's just a theory anon. It might be true, might also not be true.
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>>728515687
Me might be a distant relative of "Acid Slurper, Gunpowder Muncher" Clover Gunhat.
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>>728515558
It's what I was thinking. A cut dialogue from UTY explicitly talked about monsters coming from all over the world. Another headcanon I had, is that a lot of the stories we humans created along the years, in the world of UT, literally came from monsters residing in said regions. The more known a monster type was, the stronger they could become

The Dreemurs are powerful as fuck because they're literally the devil. The Ketsukanes have a bit of boss monsters because there are tons of fox spirits. Maybe a dragon monster, a slime monster, a minotaur, a golem and others could all be like the ketsukanes, boss monsters.

It's something I'd have loved for UT or UTY to delve into, but yeah...
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>>728515830
>"Today!! I am a God!!"
> maniacal laughter as he dowses himself radioactive waste
>"I am ze Übermensch!"
>A few weeks later
>"I toiled in God's domain!"
>Wallows in agony while laughing madly
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>>728515558
>Or a classic dragon
So there's a chance that Susie is a boss monster?
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>>728515059
I guess you could dwell on how silly and arbitrary it is, but you could also make lemonade from these lemons.

I actually thought boss monsters were pretty interesting as a concept, which is why I put a bunch of them in my fangame. Now I get to explore their lore myself and make them not arbitrary.
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>>728515889
>that's just a theory anon. It might be true, might also not be true.
I mean sure, you're probably not meant to think that much about it, or maybe you're supposed to think exactly that much about it.
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>>728515124
I kinda figured it was the reverse. The collective unconscious of humanity was shaped by early contact with monsters. All these superstitions and folklores we have come from real creatures that we at one point had to deal with on a day to day basis.
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>>728515227
What's bad about Korean foxes?
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>>728516116
>chujin, of course realizes that this means war
>the two of them realize far too late that one upping eachother in obtaining super cancer was unproductive.
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>>728515629
Don't bother hoping for a happy ending though, they'll only give you the M Night Shyamalan
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>>728515756
I thought he was a birdfag
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>>728516308
I'd like to think that since Chujin is a Ben 10 fanboy and Medic is Medic they both believe radiation will give the super powers (I mean it worked with scout so)
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>>728516404
He's both. Each of the Mercs have a Bird and a Mammal they resonate with. Heavy's is the Robin and the Bear for example. Soldier's is the Eagle and the Monkey. etc etc
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>>728515889
Regardless of whether it's true or not, the actual means Frisk leaves the underground has nothing to do with taking Asgore's Soul either.
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>>728515227
>Chujin finds out his wife is Korean
How will this play out?
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>>728515558
I had the idea that Tython would be a particularly famous historic boss monster, since in Greek mythology he's the father of monsters. Echidna already exists in UT's code, also originating from Greek mythology as the mother of monsters.

For Oldentale i had the idea that the dragon boss monsters are all descended from him
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>>728516405
Martlet family reunion but the rest of her family are just the birdhead version of the mercs
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>>728516405
if they're both dousing themselves in radiation then they've got to be the kind of frenemy thing where they look forward to the competition. this shit is dumber than the ceroba iq lowering field.
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>>728516308
>>728516405
>>728516116
>>728515830
>>728515687
>this entire reply chain
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>>728516738
I mean the last time a german and jap got together they got up to all sorts of stupid antics. All we need now is the Italian side kick (oh wait thats just Papyrus)
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>>728516812
ah fuck that snuck right past me. if there's no subject for the warcrimes then they shall become the subjects!
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>>728516116
>>728516308
>since he's in the UT universe, he can actually add souls to himself very easily to keep tricking the devil
>he comes back cancer free
>chujin is miraculously cured
>"vell, if i let you die, our rivalry vould end on a boring note."
>medic walks away all smug as chujin realizes what "able to cure himself and me of super cancer using mysterious methods" actually means for their rivalry
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>>728516795
I live for these stupid threads
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All this Medic babble reminds that ironically Medic probably is more skilled and has better understanding of "soul science" than any of the mosnters given that he outwitted the Devil by implanting parts of his soul in the other 8 mercs and therefore is practically immortal even without his op healing technology.
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>>728515928
I want to see a fight between Kanako and Berdly now. I don't even know who would win. Yes, Kanako is a boss monster, but Berdly is way too damn tough for what he is. The smug little bastard has 900HP.
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>>728516986
dark world rules are different from light world
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>>728516931
God dammit you beat me to the bunch by bringing up the Comic lore. Also if the actual Medic from tf2 did decide to be a good guy he'd probably be able to fix everything. Reviving Chujin, healing Kanako, undoing the Amalgamate deformations, etc etc.
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>>728516024
So if they're a direct reflection of human's subconscious, why aren't they evil as shit?
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>>7285169311
>chujin, for a moment, terrified at the prospect realizes something even more terrifying
>if he brought chujin back to life then he's technically in the lead
>mad science intensifies
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>>728516986
If they're the same age then Kanako would beat up Berdly. Even Noelle fucking manhandles Berdly lol
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>>728517067
somehow an extra 1 got added to my post number there
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>>728516710
that scout one looks extremely furry
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>>728516948
Honestly I'd like to imagine the Perseverance Soul (Purple) doing some bullshit like this with Flowey and outwitting him.
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>>728516515
I believe we've had this argument before.
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>>728517054
I mean TF2 lore is also all over the place and unfortunately because of Overwatch brain syndrome people forgot The Medic (The guy in the comics and maybe the guy in the Meet The video) and A Medic (The guy you play as in the videogame) are different people.
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>>728517165
>perseverance
>flowey
anon, no, don't do that
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>>728516812
> All we need now is the Italian side kick
I have an Italian doctor Robotnik style monster in Oldentale, maybe they'd have his great(x10^15th) grandson, or maybe just his regular grandson if he was an too much of a sciencel to get laid.
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>>728517262
Am I missing something lol?
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>>728517180
I believe you shouldn't make assumptions about who you're talking to in Undertale or Deltarune threads if you don't want to look silly.
Well, except for that one guy, who ironically makes himself look the silliest by being the only person you could reasonably assume to be one person.
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>>728517165
I see the Joseph Joestar perseverance soul idea has stuck around.
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>>728517292
yellow BARELY managed to make it involving flowey (which even that is debatable) but that won't work with other souls, including flowey is a mark of a bad idea/fangame
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>>728517135
All the non-Valve-made ones besides the Engineer look furry. The originals+engineer have similar expressions to the original that fits their personality but Scout and Spy just look like cartoon birds. I guess Pyro marginally fits his personality but it's the most furry of the bunch (unsurprising given how many other fetish cosmetics Pyro has, including other furry stuff). Pic got added this year and it's less offputting than the flamingo but it has the same problem of being just an animal without the merc's personality
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>>728517102
Only because Berdly lets her. Remember he thinks he NEEDS her to survive. He wouldn't dare do anything to upset her, on purpose at least, he unknowingly annoys the shit out of her on a constant basis.
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>>728517260
Are they? Is this like some alternate universe stuff?
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>>728517102
>berdly ends up in the DRY town because uhhh martlet's nepthew
>ends up in a dark world
>starts his whole speech of "blah blah blah im smart join me and..."
>cole and kanako have a "oh we're going to beat your ass and laugh about it" expression on their faces
>its not even a contest because neither of them are holding back.
>kanako swings her kanabo once and berdly just goes *splat*
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>>728517029
What if he is really strong in the light world though?
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>>728517398
Well if you're not the person I had this argument before, I'll just give a tl:dr on the argument we would have so we can skip the plus 100 to bump limit

Yes Frisk doesn't get the soul on screen, but he could have gotten the soul by loading a save to before Flowey destroyed it.
>The souls wouldn't have left if he did that
No, Flowey already took the souls before destroying Asgore's soul, we know this because they came out of his body when he crashes your game.
>Flowey would just attack you again
Unlikely, he knows he'd lose, and he'd much rather do the Hyperdeath plan, which requires you first going through the ending.
>But how did the phone call pass through the barrier
Toby didn't think about the implications of monsters having radio contact with the surface
>Why isn't Frisk and stronger after taking the soul
Monster souls are weak as shit, it makes no measurable difference on the stat screen.
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>>728517537
I don't dislike these designs, they just look out of place in tf2
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speaking of TF2, what mercs would (you)r fangame characters main?
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>>728517621
Berdly stat mogs the shit out of both of them, and has decently hard bullet patterns. They would win in a 2v1, but he would put up a fight. Remember he gave Kris and Noelle a hell of a fight in Chapter 2.
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susie would definitely run brass beast full time and rage over dying because of it
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>>728517594
It's way more simple than that.
TF2's a class based shooter, not a hero shooter.
So any number of a given class is intended to be understood as more of a generic player avatar than a distinct person with specifically The <Class> being a distinct character in the comics, mostly for the purpose of the plot of the comics.
The idea of the classes being specific people is more of a modern invention from people trying to apply the hero shooter model to Team Fortress 2, and this is sort of reflected in TF2 fanworks as well, early fanworks tend to more readily present random classes as unique individuals, especially after the addition of hats.
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With all this TF2 talk, I feel like I should bring up that the first actual Undertale Fangame that was a full complete fangame is a TF2 crossover called Overtime. Sure it was mostly a shorter reskinned version of Underatle with some minor differences in layout but it was still the first, and Honestly its like my second favorite Undertale fan game cause im a big tf2fag and only Yellow surpassed it back in 2023. Yellow is arguably the first PROPER fan game to actually be a completed and full game, but I do find it fund that for many years before that, only TF2 autists and their funny crossover mod made an Undertale fan game that was actually complete.
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>>728518289
DRY with young cole?
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>>728518172
>Racter
Whatever (you) main. (prefers sniper)
>Feumme
Medic, and he sucks at it
>Skully
Pyro, but only as a friendly. Does like MvM though.
>Wiki
Doesn't play TF2 because its too violent.
>Reynault
The spy, of course.
>Lockley
Demoknight
>Royce
Engineer
>Darkblade
He plays CS GO
>Kitsy
Pretends to main medic on her public account, off stream she plays soldier on a private account
>Delasso
Heavy in TFC
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>>728518349
I get what your saying, but all the promotional material called them "the medic" and "the spy" even as far back as 2007. At most it seemed like there was a red and blue version of each merc, but other than that they were basically just one character,
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>>728503785
Reposting this from last thread cuz it didn't get much attention
I had an idea for an UTY AU where Chujin never married Ceroba and instead she married Starlo
>Starlo and Ceroba have a child together, and she's obviously not Kanako but for the sake of this green we'll call her that
>Kanako gets told that she "looks like Pikachu" a lot and she takes after her dad of being a cow(girl)
>She follows Clover around in the Dunes in Martlet's place
>Starlo is a lot happier and has less residual problems from the original timeline; Kanako even convinces him not to kill Clover
>Integrity incident still happens in this timeline but Kanako never goes to Snowdin and Chujin has to face it alone
>Chujin is much more bitter, acting like a stereotypical incel while still pining over and trying to visit Ceroba
>If you want to be creepy about it you could even say that he pretends he's like a father to Kanako
>Instead of Ceroba, Chujin is the main villain in pacifist; He's still fired for building Axis but he later on turns the Steamworks into his man-cave
>Final showdown happens in a lower level of the Steamworks, with an upgraded Axis being piloted like a mech by Chujin
>In the neutral ending, Clover fights Chujin alone and he refuses to be rescued, going down into the lake like a captain with his ship
>Pacifist ending has everyone confront Chujin to learn the error of his ways; Clover can choose to live with either Starlo/Ceroba or Martlet
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>>728518757
I get how this can be confusing these days, but understand that at the time there was no implication "The X" had no stated implication of a defined individual fairly regularly they'd use it as interchangably as that <Class> or The <Color> <Class>, and at least in the Valve Cinematics the only one that really seems to use the comic classes is the pilot for the canceled show, Expiration Date.
And even then in that continuity seemingly the only consistency is that Spy is the Scout's father.
Like I said you probably shouldn't think about it nor attempt to apply a standard to the in game classes or anything you're working on.
It was left deliberately flexible.
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>>728519243
>These days
It seemed that way to me back when TF2 first went free to play to.

I haven't read the comics. I just know the characters from the Meet The Team videos and the game.

I should also mention I'm not the guy who was posted screenshots of the comics earlier.
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>>728519207
This just seems like you're giving Chujin the Asgore (divorced cuck misery porn) treatment.
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>>728513679
At that point I'd prefer to be stabbed

>>728514407
Bits, the ventriloquist shopkeeper in UG Apartments, ends up in a dark world and has to deal with Buttons suddenly being real and even snarkier than he was in the light world.
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>>728519430
>>728519243
personally back then to me it felt like each character was "the medic THE scout" and so on but also that it didn't matter. because of that sentiment though when the comic came out I didn't care and never read them.
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>>728519207
that final confrontation doesn't sound bad but all in all it feels mean spirited. if I'm thinking of starlo with ceroba I generally put chujin out of mind, and if chujin is somehow alive to be with ceroba still then starlo is pulling other bitches.
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>>728519519
To me it seemed like there was 18 characters, the blue and red version of each merc. They were exactly the same in every way except blue or red. It seemed like I wasn't supposed to think about things too hard, so I didn't. And of course in SFMs or the game there could be any number of scouts or spies.
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>>728519430
>I should also mention I'm not the guy who was posted screenshots of the comics earlier.
Oh I already know that.
2011 was still fairly in the realm of your Painis Cupcakes and TF2 Personas although a while after the game went free to play the biggest player in this current confusion started playing the game, so I suppose it's not too weird for you to have sort of a similar conclusion.
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>>728506097
People want to bone him. Thats it
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>>728519658
>2011 was still fairly in the realm of your Painis Cupcakes and TF2 Personas
I classed those things separately because they were fan content. I'm not really going to think about the lore considerations of Gravity Fails or Nope.avi because I don't think it has any. Otherwise I would have to accept that Gordon Freeman in HL2 has a brother named John Freeman, and they had fought a bunch of ghost pants together.
>the biggest player in this current confusion started playing the game
Who is that?
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>>728516948
To be fair, while Medic absolutely did outsmart the devil it wasn't that the devil would have just let Medic go to heaven. Medic gave the devil a slightly better deal so he could come back to life, and the devil chose to just not deal with this lawyer bullshit for now. I doubt Medic will get to heaven, he's just going to make it as long and hard as possible for the devil to send him to hell
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>>728519960
Oh Zesty Jesus, a /v/tard who started playing when the game went free to play, got into that scene of people that pretended they played the game when it first came out around 2014 on fairly unpopular "vanilla" servers that banned everything but stock weapons (including hats) and never really mentally left his entirely fabricated version of TF2 that he asserts is the ideal one, you know despite not playing the game until it had already been out for 4 years and only really forming his concept for what the game is on a modded server 7 years after the game came out based on a weird inferiority complex he developed because he vested an emotional stake in something as arbitrary as a game join date.
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>>728520221
I have no idea who that is. The only tf2 youtubers I know are sfm animators and Uncle Dane, and I don't even watch the latter.
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>>728518289
DRY2
>cole
spy. prefers to pick people off with the revolver
he'll leave duels and friendlies alone, and if an engagement is going nowhere he'll just pull out RPS
>kanako
scout, low TTK and she thinks he takes the most skill to play.
targets her friends for the sake of competition.
>sadie
engineer, the strategic placement of buildings is exactly what she likes.
she usually makes or breaks the game for her team.
>gizmo
heavy, usually sits near the engi nest until its time for a push
murder happy, if he sees it he kills it.
>mylo
sniper, targets rosa whenever she can because she knows it makes her mad.
more likely than not, she'll be standing in unconventional sniper spots because it throws people off.
>pedla
medic, because nobody else will.
dumps most of her spare money into the game and spends a lot of time trading. has all the "extremely expensive" items like a golden frying pan or bunring flames team captain.
somehow, she still has a reasonable amount of money saved up IRL.
>rosa
trolldier or demoknight, depends on if the map is good for rocket jumping.
taunts after every kill, somehow manages an average k:d ratio of 10:1.
>violetta
pyro. puff and sting hell.
enjoys damage sounds more than anything else.
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>>728520454
Honestly, you're not really missing much and most of them are fairly interchangeable, the only ones really worth a shit are sfm/gmod animators to be honest.
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>>728519493
Except that Chujin is usually the one doing the cucking, not the one getting cucked. In Asgore's case he's not the instigator and seems innocent (in Deltarune). Chujin's case is more like a reversal.
>>728519613
It's just a what-if scenario. And besides, I always preferred Ceroba with Starlo. They have a certain chemistry Cerojin lacks, and they wouldn't be together just because they look like foxes. Oh yeah, and Chujin cucked Starlo first. Can't forget that.
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>starlo when he sees something inaccurate to the surface art style during his monthly steamworks stream
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>>728518621
It occurs to me that nobody knows who any of these people are.
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>>728520561
This doesn't really work since Starlo actually likes westerns, I get what you're going for though.
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>>728520601
Hey that's not true, everyone loves racter.
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>>728520545
>and they wouldn't be together just because they look like foxes. Oh yeah, and Chujin cucked Starlo first. Can't forget that.
not beating the mean spirited allegations with that one. again, when I think of ceroba with starlo, its usually in a context that doesn't involve chujin
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>>728520545
Yeah, but it doesn't really seem like something Chujin would do. Ceroba wasn't anything in Chujin's life before he met her, Starlo is salty about losing Ceroba because he had feelings for her for the entirety of his life. Chujin would just move on to greener pastures if he never got with Roba.

My best guess as to who he'd end up with is Martlet, since he and her seemed pretty close.
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Hey, if that one guy from the previous thread is still here, you watch any of Freeman's Mind yet?
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>>728519993
That's basically the same scheme Ross Scott ran in his Go To Hell video, only his plan was to barter for a nicer spot in hell, like where the Greek philosophers went.
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>>728520743
>>728520856
>Mold hive mind
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>>728520689
I'm arguably doing more of a service to Chujin than the devs, by imagining how he would exist outside of his marriage. This way, he can be his own separate character beyond his role as "Ceroba's husband".
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>>728520856
I appreciate the Ross Scott discussions we've been seeing in this and the previous threads, despite the fact that I genuinely don't know if he's ever referred to Undertale at any point during his nearly 20 year long internet presence.
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>>728520913
You'll be part of the mold too soon, anon.
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>>728520941
I don't think he'd be interested since he has said that he dislikes games with anthropomorphic animal characters.
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>>728520985
Always have been
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>>728521029
Yeah, and I don't blame him. Honestly, I can imagine other reasons he probably wouldn't wanna touch UT, like having issues with how it presents time travel, or generally being a more emotionally charged story overall, but I can also see the animals thing being one of the bigger ones.
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>>728520926
Yeah, because "chud who wishes he were Ceroba's husband" is so much better.
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>>728521147
>, like having issues with how it presents time travel,
I don't see why he would. Undertale's time travel makes perfect sense in universe, and isn't hard to follow out of it.

>or generally being a more emotionally charged story overall,
I don't think he minds those, but he does mind soap operas, which is why he skipped Firewatch and dropped Life is Strange.

At least we got him covering a lot of similar meta aspects to Deltarune while talking about Alan Wake.
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>>728521347
>Undertale's time travel makes perfect sense in universe
It's internally consistent with itself for the most part, but it's definitely a lot less consistent when compared to a lot of other time travel systems, especially with how fast and loose it plays with the concept of people remembering resets and loads, and a lot of stuff about Flowey in particular.
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>>728521648
care to give some examples?
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>>728521735
I just feel like he might have a problem with the game distinguishing between resets like that, like how Flowey'll remember everything you've done past multiple resets for neutral routes, but the reset after a pacifist route somehow completely wipes him for real, and the game never really explains how that actually works. Also the fact that characters will actually talk about having faint memories of previous (future) events if you load a save in certain contexts, but no one ever seems to act on that, stuff like that. I don't think those would be the *biggest* issues he'd have with the game, but there's no way he wouldn't bring those up in some capacity.
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>>728521905
I could see a case of Ross brain causing him to miss the explanation, but the game absolutely does give an explanation for Flowey forgetting, he simply chooses to. He says so himself.
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>>728520601
human. i remember you're ELABORATIONS.
... that said i dont recognize a few of those. for the ones i do recognize they seem pretty accurate
>>728519495
doing this one before i sleep
(its been a while and i somehow missed the shop on my first time through, so forgive me if i get them wrong.)
>BiTs: "well this isnt so bad, is it?"
>ButtoNs: "yeah, feels like a pain thats been in my %$# forever has just been cured!"
>BT: "what the-"
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>BT: "some tea with flavoring of ourselves? sounds-"
>BN: "HORRIBLE! you better not buy that crap, i can already feel myself losin' health just thinking about the bits tea!"
>(buttons heals 200hp from bits tea)
>BT: "i'll just take some buttons tea..."
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>BT: "ok buttons, looks like this next battle is going to be a boss. please dont use our healing items right away. just defend and i can-"
>BN: "that looks like a boss to you? that guy looks like another one turn annoyance! heheh"
>(it was the hardest battle in the dark world)
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>BT: "buttons look, there's a hidden path here."
>BN: "im sure that THIS PATH has somethin' worthwhile. definitely wont be another low value healing item!"
>(it was, in fact, another low value healing item)
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>BT: "well, looks like this is the fountain. are you sure you're fine with going back to being an object?"
>BN: "THE ONLY THING I'LL MISS IS THE ABSENCE OF PAIN IN MY %$#!"
>BT: "... so you're fine with it?"
>BN: "HONESTLY IM NOT SURE HOW YOU DO IT, YOU SHOULD TRY BEIN' AN OBJECT SOMETIME!"
>BT: "alright im sealing the fountain now"
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>BT: "well this is... weird now"
>"BN": "i see NO problem with this! usin' the sock that was alive 5 minutes ago as a puppet is somethin' that normal and well adjusted people do!"
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>>728522232
I don't know, his dialogue after the pacifist route makes it sound like it's more in your hands than his, that still feels weird to me.
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>>728520513
... oops >>728518172
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>>728522302
He's yielding all control to you.
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>>728522374
I guess, that just seems a little flimsy to me.
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>>728521197
Yeah, because he's set up as the villain of this AU. He'll be redeemed in the pacifist route anyways, but his "incel" mindset is fuel for his antagonism towards Clover and co.
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>>728518447
I played Overtime around when it released and thought it was pretty corny but I have a lot of respect for it actually getting done in an age where every other fangame overpromised and died with a Ruins demo. The Flowey fight is great, Engineer's mid-fight spare is inspired for including a save point after and I thought the pacifist and genocide endings were fairly original for such a direct retelling of the game
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>>728522470
It just feels forced and out of character. You could do villain Chujin, but it would need to be different from this. Maybe if instead of ending up with a loving and supportive woman, he ended up with a genuinely bad influence like Muffet, or if he fully dedicated himself to his craft and didn't have any positive influence to anchor him.

Here's an idea, he ends up with Maddie, and she eggs on all his most horrible ideas. He even builds her a super strong robot body. And all whole conflict is the result of a couple of schizos having a self sustaining episode together.
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>>728503785
I don't know who this character is or where he's from, I just think he's really cute.
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>>728522885
I don't believe you.
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>>728522281
Thanks. It's not easy to get a style of humor right, especially when 'eepy, but I love any content featuring the shopkeepers since they tend to be neglected.
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>>728522374
Anyway, back to the original point, I don't blame Ross for not wanting to play UT, assuming he's even aware enough of it's existence to have any solid opinions on it. He's at his best when he's talking about something he actually wants to talk about, which is why the Mage Knight Apocalypse and Conquest Earth videos weren't as good.
God, I still don't understand why the Mage Knight Apocalypse video was feature length, it was basically a repeat of The Chosen: Well of Souls but with less personality.
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>>728522989
Why not
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>>728523083
You talk about him like you do know him, and are just pretending you don't have a few gigabytes of him saved on your hard drive.
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>>728522885
That's a guy...
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>>728523376
Why'd you crop out Xenia?
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>>728523406
I didn't crop xhem out myself, it was another anon whose image I downloaded.
If you want to see Xenia or the original image, I'd probably check a booru or something
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>>728522885
he's ok
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>>728523312
>pretending you don't have a few gigabytes of him saved on your hard drive.
I don't yet but I probably will
>>728523376
That's why I said he
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>>728523645
>I don't yet but I probably will
Don't get your hopes up, there isn't enough stuff of any of the UTY characters to make up multiple gigabytes, let alone just Chujin.
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>>728514786
Why is this creature looking so fruity.
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>>728523645
Then why are you attracted to a guy? Isn't that gay?
Unless if you're a girl, then...
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>>728523926
What a shame.
>>728523990
I don't think so, seems straight to me.
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Intro Human's wive vs Asgore's wife
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I want to do cruel and unusual things to Chujin.
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>>728524131
>looks like a bitch but is the nicest person you'll ever meet
>looks like the nicest person you'll ever meet but is a bitch
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>>728522820
I don't know why you insist Chujin has to be married. I wouldn't even think of that as the key to his happiness, seeing as how Starlo isn't married and he's doing fine (well, he'd be better with Ceroba, but I digress)
Think of this AU as a thought experiment, where Chujin and Starlo's marital status are swapped. I expect that Chujin should have to deal with the same situation as Starlo, and not try and soften the blow by giving him a partner.
The crushing isolation is kind of the point to his motivations, he isn't quite right in the head in this timeline. He surrounds himself with robots (like how Starlo surrounds himself with the Feisty Four) but he has trouble speaking with other people as a result.
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>>728524131
...That sheep on the left is a guy, isn't it? The curved horns are a major red flag.
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>>728517029
Susie in chapter 1 has 110 HP in your party and 120 as an enemy; from this, we can extrapolate that Berdly's party HP would be 900*(110/120) = 825. Using Kris's baseline LW/DW HP ratio in chapter 1, we can estimate Berdly's light world HP to be 825*(20/90) = 183.33, repeating of course.
Frisk has half that much at level 19. Berdly is a weapon of mass destruction
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>>728524541
I think the flat chest could also be an indicator, but meh.
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>>728524541
Eh still would.
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>>728524541
Furries are making it damn near impossible to find any design attractive when they're being drawn androgynous
It gets tiring when I can't tell if I'm looking at a girl or a boy anymore...
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>>728525540
>It gets tiring when I can't tell if I'm looking at a girl or a boy anymore...
Look man, if you were attracted to the design, that's how it is, whether it's a guy or a girl is besides the point at that point.
You don't choose attraction, you wanna fuck the sheep whether you like it or not.
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>>728525540
feels good being a bichad and not having to give a shit about things like that besides to sate my curiosity/autism
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I saw some anons arguing about Chujin as a villain earlier ITT, and while I don't have anything to add to their conversation directly, that did give me an idea.
I feel like Chujin as a villain could be done really easily if you were to write him similarly to someone like The Illusive Man, the head of a generally [species] first organization that seeks to put their species on equal footing with whatever species they consider a threat through scientific endeavors, which is definitely the sort of thing Chujin was into.
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>>728524131
>concussions
*blowjobs
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>>728525639
Finding attraction in femininity isn't suddenly a green card for me to fap to or want to fuck a guy (in this case, a drawing of one) because he looks androgynous. A male is still a male, it doesn't matter how feminine you make him, that would be gay.
You can admit that there is attraction in feminine features while consciously rejecting attraction to feminine guys. I do not want to fuck the sheep because I choose not to.
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>>728527629
I'm sorry pal, you're gay. It's been ascribed to you, you can't escape it now.
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>>728503785
every time I think about him the homosexual voices in my head get louder. vile fox magic i swear.
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>>728527973
It's only a matter of time until you realize the homosexual voices are actually *your* voice.
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>Stupid fucking Asgore won't let me make my killbots because they keep exploding and catching fire
>I'm gonna do my own thing and ensure my daughter has a long healthy life by developing a thing to war against humans with!
>Good thing that even if it doesn't work out my daughter will be completely unaffected by its failure
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>>728527787
Well, I don't need someone else to tell me whether or not I want to fuck femboys.

I just think it's tiresome when I follow furry artists and they almost always wind up drawing gay furry porn. Sometimes it's half their art, sometimes more.
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>>728528015
i accept that but i want to look at the fox man without wanting to turn him into a choking hazard okay?
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>>728528330
>I just think it's tiresome when I follow furry artists and they almost always wind up drawing gay furry porn.
I think the problem you're having is just that you haven't put two and two together yet and realized that most furries are gay.
Like, actually, most furries are gay.
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>>728528363
>choking hazard
Wow, I think you might be the first person in the world to want to service Chujin rather than the other way around.
How's it feel being a bigger bottom than a character who's depicted as the world's biggest sissy in like 99% of all his fanart?
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>>728524541
>lose the last shred of "I'm not a furry but" and make an OC
>sheep girl with curved horns
>everyone who sees it assumes she's a goat despite the wool
Sometimes animal features on anthros or kemonomimi are used for aesthetics even if it doesn't match the species' gendered characteristics. It's like the male cattle in Barnyard having udders and being called cows; they're not trans, it's just something cattle are associated with.
And for the record there IS a number of breeds of sheep that grow horns in both rams and ewes. Some of them have curly horns too, like this lass here
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>>728528456
NTA but even the girliest bitchboys deserve some dome every now and again.
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>>728528363
You're double gay for that anon, I support your advanced faggotry.
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>>728528726
Hm.
Perhaps.
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>>728528406
I'm aware of the problem, but I didn't feel like discussing it in depth before.
I think it has to do with humans and their facial recognition. Most don't seem to realize there's a thin line between attractions, and the most identification we find in humans come from looking at their face.
Furries don't have this distinction which is part of why anthros can seemingly bounce between sexual attractions at will. They're also fictional drawings, which further abstracts any sexual differences we can make out.
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>>728528903
I've seen tons of people say that they are straight for humans but bi for anthros, usually when talking about Asriel or Ralsei
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>>728529146
Yeah, that's not particularly uncommon.
Anthros are capable of looking generally more appealing than humans, due to the fact that they're fictional, like that other anon said.
Same story with characters like Ji from Nine Sols, some characters just do that to people.
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>>728529146
Ralsei is fair because he's literally a psyop created by Toby to turn (you) gay.
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>>728506340
Sauce?
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>>728529403
Which is funny, because his hatless design ended up turning a lot of people straight.
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>Finally, a Yeller thread
Now I can confirm that MasterSwordRemix is still making bangers, and apparently takes comms to make them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbh9XfNSmJo
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zero braincells between them
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>>728514407
nondescript human male and ceroba being a wholesome couple
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>>728530887
What are the odds he’d take comms for deltarune yellow
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>>728530967
>neither remember to pay taxes and are both thrown in jail
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>>728529403
Toby already figured out the optimal bait-to-payoff ratio by engineering Ralsei to hit every trigger in one go: shy demeanor, soft voice, cute design, tragic backstory potential, and just enough mystery to keep schizos inventing 45-minute theory videos. It's not even gay or straight anymore, it’s Ralseipilled.
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>>728531949
"Why on earth did you attack King Asgore?"
"He tried to make me pay taxes."
"Understandable."
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>>728532158
>I don't care who the royal guard sends, I am not paying taxes!
>...
>cut to them both living in a box
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>>728525639
>you wanna fuck the sheep whether you like it or not.
Irl it might be true until i hear his voice.
There's only so much pictures can convey, whether it's mannerism, tone of voice or something else.
Convincing traps are rare, even rarer those who actually crossdress, and they need to disclose that info if they don't wanna be treated like shit.
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>>728527163
Blowjob handlebars
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>>728528274
If he wanted to ensure his family's survival he might nod have married the rhombus
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>>728528363
You want him to vore you?
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>>728533474
Wait, if they're turning *him* into the choking hazard, wouldn't that mean they want to vore him?
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>>728533614
Technically it was misread, but Chujin getting vored would be even weirder
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It's already late, but I hope this thread will still be up when I awake
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>>728533474
Sauce?
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>>728528903
Another thing too is that people can draw impossibly stacked twinks where they literally have a woman's body minus the boobs, there's so many abstractions in porn vs the real deal
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Half of the FemClover fics on AO3 are about her getting raped by Starlo which is kinda funny.
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>>728534807
I suppose I'm not surprised, but
>FemClover fics
There can't even be that many of them, can there? How big can that sample size really be
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>>728534807
>>728534892
Sounds like FemClover is a self insert for female readers
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>UTY threads have actual discussion unlike Deltarune threads
Dessfags really did a number on those, huh.
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>>728534892
It's like twelve fics i think. I don't mind even if i wish there was more.
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>>728534807
It’s like 1 or 2 people writing these fics
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WHERE IS RETURN TO FORM, SIG.
STOP DRAWING THE MEGABONK FOX BEING GAY.
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Nevermind. I saw 2 new chapters this past week came up.

I am Ceroba and I am stupid.
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>>728533838
Chujin didn't die from the serum, he actually got vored by Ceroba the second they were off screen in that flashback.
Kanako saw it all through the door, scarring her for life.
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>>728534087
You type this in your sleep?
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>>728503785
Why can’t you guys be gay for Starlo or something
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>>728535491
More people will be gay for Starlo once you give us an answer as to what Starlo actually is.
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>>728535528
A celestial themed monster? He’s not a reptile
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>>728535256
>>728535358
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>>728535256
he posted a chapter in the previous thread
https://pastebin.com/FBHpfHc1
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>>728535491
its harder to be gay for a monster like starlo, he is not an anthro animal and has no animal features either, his face leans too much into the tumblr sexyman phenotype which is more popular among women than men, its why you barely see anyone being gay for Spamton
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>>728529146
>>728529403
Reddit sexuality
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>>728535578
I always thought he kinda reminded me of one of those paopu fruits from Kingdom Hearts, but those aren't real, so I don't know.
Seriously, what the hell is he? Dalv's a vampire, Chujin's a fox, what the hell is Starlo? He's just got a fucking star for a head, but they don't explain what he actually is, what his species is or anything. It's not even like he's supposed to be some kind of anthropomorphic star either, he's not luminescent or anything, and none of his magic abilities are related to stars or space or anything, so what gives?
A friend of mine thought he was like a blue-ringed octopus when he played the game, for some reason.
Maybe he was onto something.
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>>728535767
Anon you only described why furries, a significant portion of posters here, don’t care about Starlo. I’ve seen people be gay over Starlo outside of this place, but furries are sometimes are pussies that can’t handle anything more masculine than Ralsei
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>>728535937
Well I'm into all kinds of men from masculine to feminine and I don't find Starlo to be attractive, this is also reflected in how little art he gets compared to Chujin
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>>728536056
>how little art he gets compared to Chujin
Do you just solely use E621 and Reddit
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>>728536141
Anon we are talking about a main cast member getting less art than a one off character that appears in only 3 separate scenes in the entire game
>Reddit
Shouldn't that place be one of the main sources for UTY fanart?
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>>728535491
because fox, simple as
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>>728536253
>Shouldn't that place be one of the main sources for UTY fanart?
You'd think, right?
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>>728536253
Chujin you need to tell your wife the truth you can’t keep doing this
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>>728524285
What's the full art?
Is he too failing to complete a difficult puzzle?
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>>728536932
>What's the full art?
Here you go pal: https://files.catbox.moe/ua7lpk.png
Be warned, it's probably not something you'll be too happy to see.
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Oh, to that one guy who was asking for it, here's the video where Ross Scott says he's the inventor of the atomic bomb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hEIBDRvT84
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>>728537086
Ah yes. Cheese Grater. My favorite.
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>>728537242
I said I wanted to do cruel and unusual things to him, and I wasn't lying.
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I wonder what he's doing in there?
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>>728537806
Fighting for his life.
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>>728533474
Bigger
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>>728536253
When UTY was trendy, /utg/ seemed more fond of Starlo than the other characters. He even had some (less skilled) anons drawing him, like the milk shit
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Post Ceroba.
This is your duty for the day.
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>>728535808
By this logic, more people are attracted to Dalv
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>>728538549
We love Da Roba here, we do
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>>728539037
Retard only good for her sex appeal.
Come to think of it, is there a single UT, UTY or DR female who isn't at least a situational retard?
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>>728539303
Yes.
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>>728535808
Starfruit are real, actually.
Also allegedly you can do the cube watermelon thing to oranges.
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>>728539037
For some reason I was expecting this to be a Rodney Dangerfield joke that was missing the punch line.

"We love Da Roba here, we do. We just hate her when she's around."
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>>728535808
He's a starfish.
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>>728539303
Name a non retarded male character in UTY. The only answer you’ll get is Axis
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>>728539432
We know practically nothing about her and her involvement in the plot - could end up being a massive brain fart on her part.
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>>728539806
So she's Schrodinger's Genius at this exact moment, which means I win on a technicality
Now you have to suffer looking at another Roba as a penalty
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>>728539804
Ace, Moray, Mo, Clover, Flowey, Dalv,
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>>728539465
>Starfruit are real, actually.
Yeah, but they don't actually look like stars, not in the usual sense.
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>>728539928
Eh, they do if they hold them right.
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>>728539928
What do you mean my fruit isn't a boiling ball of plasma?
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>>728539804
>Name a non retarded male character in UTY.
Asgore.
Specifically in UTY, he's pretty much on that shit in every appearance he has (in UTY). He only gets bodied in the geno route once Clover's already surpassed everyone else in the underground, so that's not really his fault.
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>>728531729
That song was made for the commissioner's fanfic, so that would definitely be in the ballpark to me. Depends if A) DRYanon is up for commissioning the lead dev of UTY itself and B) MSR is fine with making stuff for fanGAMEs.
As an aside, I also just realized that the art with that music was done by one of UTY's artists as a separate comm. That commissioner really likes his stuff authentic.
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>>728535808
Kingdom Hearts, huh?
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>>728539976
Are you suggesting Starlo has a really long head when viewed from any angle but the direct front?
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>>728539924
So if we’re including side characters, why would Dina be retarded in terms of female characters?
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>>728540045
...yeah, what about it?
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>>728540009
I mean they don't look like stars in the way that paopu fruits look like stars.
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>>728540085
Yeah I sort of imagine him kinda looking like a big ol lemon Chaos Zero
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>>728540157
Kingdom Hearts, huh.
Don't think I don't know what you're doing.
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>>728540412
Buddy, I don't even know what you think I'm doing at this point.
Care to fill me in?
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Rewriting UTY:
Ceroba is the dead one, but Chujin and Kanako are alive. Chujin works as the primary antagonist of the game posing direct opposition to humans seeing them as menaces to monsterkind. Ceroba had the boss monster gene and offered herself for experimentation and she fell down, which is Chujin's biggest regret. He wants to get Clover's soul, simply as that.
Martlet plays the same role as she does normally but has more agency and grows fond of Clover to directly antagonize Chujin and protect Clover.
Starlo sort of does the same thing, but he has an extra layer of selfishness because he's motivated by spite against Chujin for what happened to Ceroba.
Kanako is the new wildcard which would change from opposing her dad in a pacifist game, to being one of the bosses you have to fight in a neutral or genocide, functionally being similar to her mother.
Dalv can reapper sometime in the middle of the game and put his backstory with the blue soul human into spotlight to enhance the nuance of the other humans who came into the underground and died even if they were flawed beings, whether they deserved to die or not.

The point of the story this way is to strenghten the themes of justice towards the monster's perspective, if to what extent their actions against humans are justified and up to which point they're just hurting themselves.
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>>728540412
Am I supposed to be playing a bit here? I'm genuinely at a loss, I don't know what's going on.
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>>728540924
I think I know who that is, just ignore it.
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>>728541421
Aw, but now I'm curious, why did that guy start talking like that when I mentioned Kingdom Hearts, what's the lore?
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>>728539432
Knowing Toby her cold and stern side is a mask and she's actually just going to be a quirky I love Christmas lady when the plot allows for it
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>>728540642
Here's my rewrite of UTY

Everyone in the Underground has Mart-rot which turns everyone into Martlet. Clover has to choose to use his soul to save Monsterkind from the infection or kill everyone and risk bringing it outside of the barrier since he contracts it underground.
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>>728541587
Just don't think about it and look at this picture of Dalv
https://litter.catbox.moe/7iea2y4mpy151sal.png
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>>728542065
I get the premise is technically sound, and contagion stories are fairly common, but the whole Mart-rot thing was never really funny to me.
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>>728542727
there's nothing funny about it, Anon.
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>>728542559
...Okay, but what's that got to do with Kingdom Hearts?
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>>728543336
Nothing, ignore it. It's a thread schizo.
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>>728543336
Well you see...
If you rearrange the name Sora is can spell out 'Clover is Dead' which is a theory that UTY was a coma dream because he hit his head on a rock when he fall into the Underground.
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>>728539506
good fangs for biting (biting me)
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>>728543548
Man, that's a good reference, been a while since I thought about that one.
Now I kinda want a UTY mod that adds in a FUN event that just displays an image of Clover's face in the style of picrel after the scene with the boat crash, for no reason.
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>>728543732
I-I didn't know it was a reference to something. I was just being a little goofball and made something up.

In my moment of retardation, I became a genius. A modern day Kojimbo.....
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>>728543934
Oh, I thought you were making a joke about the "Squall is dead" theory for Final Fantasy 8, the inspiration for all modern [character] is dead theories.
I could see it working as a FUN event for UTY though, you'd have the boat crash scene play out mostly as normal, but after the crash you'd have the image of Clover with their face missing flash on screen for a second with some eerie music, before the game resumes as normal.
And then you leave the player to figure out what that means for themself.
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>>728524357
Him being single is fair, the main sticking point here is that he wouldn't be seething about Roba ten years later. She just wasn't as close to him before they married as she was to Starlo. That's why Starlo is so upset over it so many years later, he spent his childhood with her, then she left him for some stranger.

If you wanted to push the "Chujin is an autistic 30 year old virgin obsessed with robots" could see him taking some monastic vow of celibacy for the sake of his craft. He is autistic enough to do that. Then without any reasonable voice in his life, he goes full Terry Davis.

If you still wanted to play up how lonely he is, you could have a few of his robots be sexy fembots, which he swears don't exist just to be eye candy.
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>>728525639
Nta, but the dick ruins it. It just being there ruins the mood, even if its not doing anything.
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>>728525823
>Chujin joins the klan
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>>728544680
I'd bring up all my points about why Chujin isn't actually racist, but I'm about to go to sleep, so I'll have to do that later, if the thread still exists by the time I get up.
Honestly, even The Illusive Man wasn't really racist either.
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>>728528406
its closer to half, but that makes it seem like more because gays are usually only 2% of the population.
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Adult Kanako's feet paws...
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>>728528657
The problem is that the character in that pic looks more like an effeminate man than a masculine woman even without the horns. Eyelashes or tits would be a quick fix for this problem.
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>>728539572
Kanako tail wagging... Cute...
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>>728540642
I prefer this idea that a mod called justice resolves is doing, where chujin and roba are dead and kanako meets and teams up with clover in snowdin
haven't played it yet but likely is following the "solo survivor" AU
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>>728529403
>>728532107
I hate this little wigger like you wouldn't believe
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Post Ceroba recolors.
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>>728545773
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>>728530887
>banger
This sounds like another one of those hollow fan songs you'd see in a hypothetical Vs Ralsei or vs FRIEND fight. Something's missing from it.
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>>728545773
fellroba...
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>>728540085
new head(heh)canon
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>>728545909
Probably any recognizable leitmotifs. I think you can hear a little bit of GLACEIR in there, but I couldn't pick up on any leitmotifs from UTY or Deltarune.
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>>728534807
Statutory or actual?
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>>728535491
I don't want to fuck Chujin, I just think he doesn't deserve the shit the universe at large gives him.
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>>728534807
Meanwhile the kanaclover fics are about them slowly falling in love (which is the kinda of shit I am into)
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>>728535528
starfish
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>>728539303
>Retard only good for her sex appeal.
she's devoted and loving too, she's not just foolish
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>>728537179
You know things have gotten bad when I even miss the "new bad" stuff they were complaining about.
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>>728539303
Is there a UT character of either gender who isn't a retard?
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>>728547161
(You), I guess.
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>>728547161
Uhh... Gerson?
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>>728539572
t.
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>>728543548
Coma theories are soulful
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>>728546000
best xerobert
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>>728539924
anon, i posted this image in this thread, did you forget already?
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>>728528406
>>728544809
I'd said most furries are actually bisexual, at least the artists, its rare to find a furry artists that only makes gay or straight stuff
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>>728544103
That can't be the inspiration for all of them, its not like FF8 invented the concept of "He was dead all along" when The Sixth Sense is what most people associate it with.
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>>728544781
Chujin is absolutely racist, he just isn't hateful as much as he is fearful.
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>>728548176
I was counting bisexuals when I said half. Its just that gays are hypersexual, so they make, commission, and consume way more porn than straights, leading to them looking like the majority.
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>>728546098
Maybe that's what's wrong with this one, but a lot of those kind of fan songs have loads of leitmotifs and still feel hollow.
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>>728540642
Personally, I like the idea of Chujin giving Kanako an improved serum during the geno route to protect her, it goes wrong, and Amalgam Kanako becomes the final boss.
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>>728547230
Blatantly false, he can't even read.
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>>728547289
He's senile
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>>728549041
He may have forgotten some things in UT but he still was smart enough to not leave his shop in the genocide route, because shopkeepers can't be attacked
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>>728503785
What do we think of her?
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>>728550060
Rape and leave.
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So how does monster food actually work? The one person in Grillby's implies that it doesn't 'pass through you' and that monsters don't have bathrooms.
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>>728550060
I like her, and I get the feeling Shu would be extremely popular here if she were invented as a girl.

>Incredible jobber
>Have to bail her out when she starts fights
>Get to listen to her jump around and make cute fox noises when she (carried by you) wins
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>>728550113
YWNBTS
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>>728550165
Its instantly metabolized with no waste. Its basically the same as a healing spell, repairing all damage in your body and refilling all its spent energy.
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>>728550165
Food is made of magic and so are monsters, they fully absorb the magic from the food once it enters their system so they don't produce any waste after eating
I do wonder if monsters need to drink water or "magical water", probably not if they don't have bathrooms at all
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>>728550165
Pure energy, Randal.
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>>728550571
>YWNBTS
>You Will Never Be TS
?
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>>728550753
my best guess is "the strongest"
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>>728550476
If she were a girl from the start she would be a boring Mary Sue OC instead of a boring Gary Stu self insert
We might never have created our own jobber version of Shu if that were the case and at most she would have some simps
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>>728550060
Imagine doing a dual heat attack with f!Shu where she keeps flubbing her lines, speaking them out of order, whiffing attacks, and tripping over her own staff.
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>>728550753
Toriel's Sexpet
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>>728550941
I have observed than anons would fuck the shit out of Mary Sue if she were a furry
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>>728551091
you dont have to like someones personality in order to fuck them. its a bonus but never a requirement.
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>>728550576
>>728550669
Apparently a human can subsist off of it considering Chara. But how If you have no actual nutrients coming in?
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>>728550571
That's right, you tell em champ!
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>>728547492
I hope toby does this he would cause mass suicide
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>>728551146
I have observed that guys will like a woman's personality a lot more if she has fat tits. Source: Roba, Toriel, Carol
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>>728550476
>>728550967
Someone needs to add a jobber losergirl to their fangame
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>>728551156
The magic acts as the nutrients. Its probably not healthy to slowly replace all the matter in your body with magic, but apparently it is doable.
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>>728551316
What would she be called? Obviously I can't just copy f!Shu directly.
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>>728548519
Anon, I didn’t realize how porn addicted straight furries could be until I played Undertale Yellow. I saw some Cerobafag beg for an animator to animate Ceroba constantly until he told him to fuck off. Genuinely funny as shit
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this is what DRY shu would be like
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>>728528330
Where the fuck is my gay Chujin and Starlo porn bro
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>>728551798
write some yourself you bigoted normalfag chudcel
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>>728551738
I always thought of him as a famous fraud martial artist like Steven Seagal, he stares in a lot of movies were he can live his power fantasies and he swears his tecniques make him invincible in the real world, but most people don't buy into his bullshit
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>>728551509
Probably something that means jobber in chinese
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>>728551907
I’m putting work into… certain things
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>>728551364
And another thing, does that mean monsters have no digestive system past their mouth? Or do they have unused digestive systems? The dude at Grillby's wants to try human food so there must be something.
I swear I'm not trying to be weird I'm just musing on monster biology
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>>728551286
>Ceroba
>Carol
>No Martlet
? Cerobafag delusion ?
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>>728552092
good, be creative
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>>728552152
Monsters now canonically throw up everything they can't consume the same way owls do.
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>>728503785
Is this general half hmofafags and half Chujinfags or it’s just one fag pushing some agenda
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>>728552730
i'm sure you thought you were sneaky calling this a general but I'm on to your shit
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Another thread? So soon? And it's almost over? What gives?
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>>728553107
people just wanted to make one
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>>728551735
Obviously there are straight coomers too, but fags on average are way hornier than straights.
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>>728552947
I don’t know what you’re talking about
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>>728552152
Monsters used to live on the surface like we do, so they still have all the organs necessary to process physical food.
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>>728552730
Replace Chujin with gay furries in general and you are correct.
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>>728553167
If this were the case, there would be a shit ton of more Chujin or Starlo porn
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>>728553234
I'm just calling you a shit for calling this a general. "generals" are a very specific thing and the reason /vg/ was created has nothing to do with a thread or two being made once a week.
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>>728551738
My thoughts as well, only Shu is not as successful as Rex. He runs his dojo out of his mom's garage, and it has basically no permanent members aside from himself and his brother.

That's why he joins the villain of the week when he finds out about dark worlds. For once he actually gets to be a real kung fu badass, and he doesn't want to let it go.
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>>728550669
There was the water cooler that you use to wake up Undyne so there has to be some interaction with water.
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>>728551907
>Image
>Implying Carol doesn't approve
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>>728552180
She doesn't really have a bad personality, so she doesn't really make a good example. The other three are genuinely horrible people to be around.
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>>728553107
very active discussion, probably because of the anniversary
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>>728553815
roba seems fairly benign if you keep her away from scientific endeavors
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>>728553402
Maybe Ceroba has more because UTY reaches more than just the furry audience, which results in more straight male fans.
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>>728554128
she's clearly a very loving person that just should never be allowed in a high stakes situation, because she's too decisive to everyones detriment. most people would stop and think things over and many people in her shoes, maybe even some people getting paralyzed by indecision. she however gets tunnel vision figuring out "the best worst course of action in record time"
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>>728554128
She does seem incapable of self reflection and has those anger issues.
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>>728550941
I'm inclined to agree. When the Shu guy revealed he had a sister, a lot of people here thought she was a boring character with a cute design.
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>>728554128
Toriel did nothing wrong
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>>728554393
Asgore...
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>>728554264
and yes, I know, injecting your daughter should be an easy decision to avoid. but for a the roba, the only path is straight ahead.
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>>728554552
>>728554264
The good thing about Roba is that she would betray you. You could murder a man in cold blood, and the first thing she would do is help you hide the body.
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>>728555012
*she would never betray you
no glasses dyslexia strikes again
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>>728555012
"wouldn't" I assume you meant. but yes she's a very loyal person. I dont generally go with the "women shouldn't make any decisions at all" thing but I think ceroba really shoul let someone else call the shots, and to be fair she would be happy with that.
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>>728554393
Sans...
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>>728514925
>>728515543
these will be in /vrpg/ when i can think of something.
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>>728555226
thanks anon, I know my idea was a little half baked but I look forward to it
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Does someone have the image of chujin doing the omni man squat? Its been ages since I last entered one of these threads.
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>>728546115
Actual iirc.
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>>728555621
here you go
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>>728555173
I wasn't wearing my glasses, I tend to skip words when I do that.
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>>728555012
>The good thing about Roba is that she would betray you.
That isn't a good thing Clover, she's trying to kill you dude
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>>728556174
poor kid, even attempted murder is more parental love than he's used to.
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>>728555810
There's a lot of junk in that trunk.
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>>728539303
Based anti-feminist Radiation. Deltarune also fails the Bechdel Test by having Susie and Noelle talking about Kris the one time they are alone.
>>728540642
Chujin is a good character to be an antagonist. Even Alphys would be a significant threat in Undertale if she could bring herself to hurt a human, and Chujin is much more competent and determined.
>>728551364
>live underground for years
>eat and drink only magical monster food
>with every skin cell or hair falling off, a little more physical matter is lost
>what would be a normal human body becomes more "magical"
>over time, you notice more and more changes
>even more intelligent monsters start having trouble noticing that you are a human
>you have a "magic field" now or somesuch
>this means monster rules start applying more and more to yourself
>if you were attacked, intent would determine how hurt you would get
>you start worrying about if you can even protect yourself if a malicious human comes through
>maybe you might be able to learn to cast magic
>but you also wonder what will happen when you die
>will you fade away into dust, leaving only a skeleton behind?
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>>728557147
>leaving only a skeleton behind?
the skeleton would also turn to dust, since it would have long since been replaced with magic. Sorry Steven and Ness, you aren't revived as skeletons after not surviving.
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>>728557147
>Deltarune also fails the Bechdel Test by having Susie and Noelle talking about Kris the one time they are alone.
The broader fandom would tell you this doesn't count because Kris is not a man
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>>728555621
>>728555810
This was ironically posted to r34 recently
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>>728554393
Toriel...
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>>728555012
>The good thing about Roba is that she would (never) betray you
that'd be nice
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Did we run out of discussion to have?
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Someone in these threads had to have been literally raped by a robafag, there's some deep seethe irradiating from their posts.
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>>728558980
months ago, yes
but this thread is practically over so I'd say it was a good one
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>>728557147
>Chujin is a good character to be an antagonist. Even Alphys would be a significant threat in Undertale if she could bring herself to hurt a human
I agree, that's part of the reason I wanted to put one of those "evil scientist mastermind" villains in my fangame.
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Lets end this thread, time to roll
https://files.catbox.moe/740ee4.png
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>>728559062
Ceroba looks way too old in this pic
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>>728559146
that's because she is, and she is also crippled
read shattered decade to know why, it's a good kanaclover fic
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>>728558980
an odd thing to say after two very productive threads.
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>>728559138
roll
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>>728559196
Why is she old? I thought it only has a ten year time skip.
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>>728559326
roba was already 40 or 50 by the time UTY happens
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>>728559209
I'm asking because activity fell off a cliff a 480 posts.
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>>728559209
It's just the homo who thinks these threads are out to rape him trying to doompost.
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>>728559402
it's monday and people have work

>>728559138
give me a MILF
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>>728559402
it comes in waves, its always come in waves. even across the time this thread has been up its come in waves. its also hard to start a whole new wave of delightful autism like the chujin competing with medic thing when the thread is on its way out.
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>>728559394
There's no way she's that old in UTY. She's in her late 20s or early 30s.
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>>728559009
Anon I’m not the only one complaining about Cerobafags. I’m just pointing out patterns of porn addiction
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I miss the snow. I want a hot bird wife to drink hot coffee with.>>728559457
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>>728559457
>it's monday and people have work
No excuse, monster girls come before employment
>>728559425
No I just had a bit of whiplash from things slowing down after two days of non stop action
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>>728559509
also she was in a depressive slump and constantly drunk to numb the pain
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>>728559617
I'm actively working while thinking about the bird I'll have you know anon.
>>728559457
speaking of god DAMNIT I want the bird
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>>728559641
Yeah, but why would all that hit her so suddenly, while Kanako and Clover don't age that much at all? Surely they'd also look like shit if the accelerated timeskip includes stress alonside actual years.
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>>728559782
10 years of getting blackout drunk daily will do that to you
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>>728559138
Let's go!
>>728559394
She's in her 30's at the oldest. Don't forget she is the same age as Starlo who is a young adult.
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>>728559782
best I can think of is with chujin dead, she's the only one contributing magic towards kanako
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>>728559867
But she's not a boss monster.
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>>728559857
It won't turn your hair that grey at 40. She'd have to be on meth to do that.
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>>728555810
Thank you anon. I hope the drawfag who made this is doing alright.
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>>728559923
but kanako is her daughter, and the magic to let her grow up has to come from somewhere. plus in the original draft of yellow ceroba was going to be trying to kill kanako so that she wouldn't age remember?
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>>728559867
roberta is a regular monster, so she will age normally even if kanako dies
reminder that betaroba would purposefully kill kanako so she would stop aging
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>>728560028
its pretty clear that the aging is because the magic is going to the child right? nothing saying she can't be drained of magic regardless of her being a boss monster since her child is indeed one.
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>>728560018
I assume with chujin dead that kanako will remain forever stuck as a child or boss monsters just age normally until adulthood then stop
I prefer the 2nd option, doubt toby put any thought on that honestly
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>>728560018
I guess if that's part of the fic then it is what it is. The author posts in these threads, so he should probably just chime in and say if that's his logic.
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>>728560136
its not unreasonable. next time he posts something we simply need to dogpile him with the question
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>>728560018
Normal monsters don't need additional soul juice to grow up. Why wouldn't she just mature like a normal monster if normal monster genes are what she got from Ceroba?
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>>728560240
kanako isn't a normal monster
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>>728560202
Alright, I'll get the rope, you get the chair, and we'll hog tie him to it and beat him with sticks until he gives an answer.
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>>728560097
Its because of the parents' soul being drained, which seems to be an exclusively boss monster thing.
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has anyone tried the justice resolves geno route yet? what happens to kanako there?
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>>728560356
the instruments of interrogation
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>>728560317
She's 50% one, and only has 50% of her parents left.
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>>728560484
finished version
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>>728560443
yes but again kanako is still a boss monster, and we dont know if the drain comes FROM the child or is something the boss monster parents soul does.
considering the parent child dynamic, its pretty reasonable to consider that its something initiated by the boss monster child.
>>728560537
so theres a 50 percent chance i'm right then. the interrogation continues.
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>>728560553
I have never watched a vivzie cartoon, so I have no idea what the implications of this would be beyond people saying fuck a lot
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>>728560553
I know its "vivzie kanako" but it honestly doesn't look bad. the art style wouldn't be reviled so much if the show wasn't so terrible
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if only toby had answered that instead of "lol just IMAGINE it" we wouldn't be struggling with this now
but they discussion is discussion
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>>728560715
the struggle is enjoyable. he grew up in these kind of fandom spaces. he knew what he was doing to us.
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>>728560596
If this were a thing, then it would seem like boss monster x normal monster relationships would be a horrible idea, since boss monsters' souls are so much stronger than normal monsters'. You'd basically be killing your wife by impregnating her, since that child would eat away at her soul at an incredible rate due to how weak it is. Roba wouldn't just be aging at an accelerated rate, she'd be aging at an incredibly accelerated rate.

If this were a thing, someone would have mentioned it.
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>>728560715
Well I can work within that framework and get an answer. The child wouldn't take life from the common monster parent, they would either stop aging or would physically mature while their soul doesn't.
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>>728560850
>if this were a thing someone would have mentioned it
only if it actually is accelerated. maybe its only accelerated when the boss monster parent is dead. maybe they draw more heavily on the boss monster parent. maybe the yellow devs didn't think this far on the idea. its still a plausible idea because in that fic she is indeed far more aged than expected
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>>728560964
I prefer the mature route because I like my 'nakos mature
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nondescript human male x ceroba is the one true pairing
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>>728560993
I think the only good explanation for that is "the author wanted hagroba" and you shouldn't think too hard about it. Anything else is either wrong or feels wrong.
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>>728561118
Hello, my name is John Nondescript. I'm actually quite fond of birds
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>>728561223
this
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>>728561109
Admittedly I only lean more towards the stop aging angle because a couple of the characters in my fangame hinge on it.
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>>728561223
I think you're mixing up the feels wrong part for it just being wrong. its something we lack information on because I dont think toby ever considered "other boss monster families" its firmly in the territory of IMAGINE without recourse on that aspect.
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>>728561275
He was talking about Hugh Mannon De Script
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>>728561446
ah my cousin, carry on then.
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I need a fluffy gf before I die
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>>728561363
I'm just saying the IMAGINary answer of children killing their normal parents at an accelerated rate doesn't feel right for the setting. Seems to grim for Undertale.
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>>728561518
why has god forsaken us from fluffy gfs in this reality
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>>728561570
thats a very fair argument, my only counter is that boss monsters seem to be where a lot of the settings tragedy settles and concentrates. still you make a good point.
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>>728561606
I don't know what possessed Sig to procedurally draw Kanako taller and taller than Clover, but I'm so fucking glad he did so.
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HFOFA KanaClover.
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>>728561661
Yeah, but adding extra super forms of the regular tragedy on top, and doing it to regular monsters feels ill fitting.
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>>728561724
roba and chujin are very tall so kanako will end up tall too
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>>728561731
HFOMA Kanaclover
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>>728561771
maybe, it still feels like it makes sense to me that the aging could be doubled. personally when im working on stories I just assume that somehow the aging stays the same and the remaining parent doesn't age any faster because I dont have the heart for that kind of gut punch, but I dont think its unreasonable, especially considering how dark many people make fanfictions of these games, to go that route.
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>>728561724
Ceroba is scary tall, and Chujin is even taller. Kanako is going to naturally get taller and taller than Clover as the years go on.
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>>728561854
Fox boys...
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>>728561898
On the subject of boss monster parents aging, how do you think it feels for boss monster children to know that they're slowly killing their parents just by living?



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