Why does this game glaze her so much?
Because the target audience is furfags who like disgusting looking characters.
>>728526764what are you gay? susie is hot
>>728526614She's the main character
>>728527690Wrong. They are and everyone suffers.
>>728526614i want her to facesit me and smell her ass and armpits for hours
>>728526614Writer's pet
Hairy pussy, ass and armpits.
>>728526614she's toby's wife>>728527863i unfortunately agree but i still hate her
>>728526614It's cause she's the nail.She was seemingly manipulated into the role by Kris and Carol, yet it's also pretty clear nobody (Least of all Kris) expected her to take to it so well. Only Gerson seems to really understand her full potential.
>>728526614she's a good girl
>>728526614susie is the dragon. noelle is the woman.genesis 3:15. revelation 12.
>>728529515Slut?
>>728529062 Toby definitely gives her the most screen time, but calling her his "wife" is wild lmao. She's just the character with the clearest arc and the easiest to write growth for-broken, lonely, outcast with a heart of gold. It's trope bait, but it works. Still, the game does push it a bit sometimes.
>>728526614She's a Mary Sue
>>728526614God, I wish I could glaze her.
She is too power to afford cleaning herself.
Toby Fox is obsessed with tomboys. Even the obligatory Girly Girl (Noelle) is secretly a tomboy.
Do Krusie fans still exist? I just see Kris getting doe'd by Noelle or her sister.
>>728527737
>>728527737De/ss/o sexoo
>>728526614I argue CHADton C. CHADton is glazed more
>>728535945I must have a gene that prevents my brain from becoming fanatical over spontaneous designs. Nothing from Robert was shown about this character yet there is a hivemind that deluded itself into thinking this character is exactly like it is, actually!Time and time again this fandom does this shit and are met with the whiplash that it wasn't like they envisioned it. So why waste all of that precious time?I may be the best fan of this game because I know how to take a step back and let it breathe, the fandom is choking the living hell out of the franchise every singular day that passes.
>>728536715>Time and time again this fandom does this shit and are met with the whiplash that it wasn't like they envisioned it.Really? I think the fans were pretty happy with Tenna's design. Can't think of any characters people were speculating on that were later revealed and people didn't end up liking their designs. Maybe Mike? But Mike wasn't even really shown in the first place.
>>728526614toby likes his tomboys
pick one
>>728538009this one
>>728526614Why is /v/ obsessed with the deer while Susie is the objective wife for life?
>>728527737Pretty much thisMain character is Noelle, Kris and Decemeber>Prophecy is sacrificing Noelle as the girl>Dess and Kriss concoct a plan to replace Noelle with a new girl>they decide nobody would care or look for Susie and she's mean to Kris in the school anyway>now the twist is that Kris starts to fall for Susie and will have to pick between her and Noelle's life
>>728530757trad wife who only have sex after wedding but will also have 10 kids with you
>>728532192where is Toby's post about Noelle?
>>728538009you can tell a troon susellefag made this
>>728539571wtf norwegians are based???
>>728526614I want her to glaze my face with her thick lizard cum
>>728540080wanting tomboys to be futa is the first sign of homosexuality
Because she's awesome nigga.
>>728534904Krusie currently flip flops between between being the second or even most popular delta ship even giving suselle a run for its money. and as a ralsusfag all i can say is godspeed
>>728526614it means she either dies or does something bad in the future
>>728540205I want all women to be futa BECAUSE I'm a gay faggotI had dreams in middle school of my female classmates rubbing their dicks on my faceIt was over before it began
>>728534904This board is KrisellepilledTumblr is SusellpilledActual game is Krusiepilled
I drew this Susie in mspaint.
>>728541438turn off porn and get a job, you are getting coombrained
>>728541538based tummy fat Susie enjoyerit is also canon
>>728541564>pornI had no idea what futa was in middle school, dummyStop making me shit up this thread with stupid replies
crust the pan
>>728526614I don't care for her as a character. Her being "butch" thing is highly off-putting. The only people who like her are scrawny effeminate faggots who want to be beaten up, or didn't actually play the game and retcon her in their heads to be more of a tomboy. Plus in a lot of ways she's too similar to Undyne from Undertale. My first thought when meeting this character was that Toby Fox must have a fetish for it, otherwise I don't see why he would make such a character twice. I'm not aware of any other Deltarune character being a retread in quite the same way. Yes, there are characters that to some degree resemble major characters from Undertale, but they are also noticeably distinct. You could say Susie isn't exactly the same as Undyne, but she's still the same archetype, just with a different background.
>>728542010I believe Susie will ignore Noelle in Normal route to spend time with Kris on ferris wheel.And Noelle will spend time with Kris ignoring Noelle on Weird route. Both routes will shit on Suselle.
We need more lore about the first group before everything went to shit.
>>728543226Deltarune cult predicted Noelle as the sacrifice for their religion. Dess and Kris denied it and switch victim to Susie.
>>728543749Ngl if the big twist all along is that Deltarune's plot is about a crazy cult it'd be so disappointing. That's just kind of lame.
>>728542161> Noelle will spend time with Kris ignoring NoelleI know you meant ignoring Susie but that's funny
>>728526614She is the main protagonist. The true hero. That's why Gerson quotes his genocide dialogue about heroes in his fight.
>>728541341The most popular Delta ship is Spamtenna, actually. At least on A03 it is.
>>728541538Too off-model. Looks like shit desu.
>>728543940Would be funny if it turned into hot fuzz and they did it all for very petty reasons.
Why is this brat so gay?
are you making your GF do all the work on Christmas? At least buy her wine, anon.
>>728545556Maybe she is a girl and is actually straight, which is why she hates Kriselle. Or maybe Kris is scaly only.
>Betrays Susie for a bitch who used to hit him in the head with baseball batsWhat was Kris’s major malfunction?
>>728545858doe sex
FUCK OFF DELTARUNE POSTERS NORMIE TRASH DIME A DOZEN NORMIE FUCKING GARBAGE POSTERS FUCKING STUPID NORMIES GO BACK YOU FUCKING NORMEIS GB2R GO TFB2R GO BACK YOU FUCKING NORMIES SCUM STOP POSTING YOUR FUACKING STOP STUPD FUCKING SHIT GAME YOU FUCKING NORMEIS GO THE FUCK DPAST BACK STOP POSTING YOUR DISGUSTING FUCKING FAGGOT FETISH GAME YOU FUCKING SNOMIER FUCKING TRASH GO THE FUCK BACK NORMIES GO THE FUCK BACK NORMIES GO THE FUCK BACK NORMIES YOU FUCKING STUPID DELTARUNE TRASH POSTERS GO THE FUCK BACK YOU FUCKING TRASH NORIMIES STOP POSTING YOUR SICK DISGUSTING TRASH GAME YOU FUCKING NORMIES GO THE FUCK BACK NORMIES YOU FUCKING TRASH YOU FUCKING NORMIE FUCKING TRASH GO THE FUCK BACK FUCKING DISGUSTING RAPIST GAME
>>728545858Yes, Dess might have been an abuser, but that doe pussy is too strong man.
>>728526614Because she isn't THAT much of a whiny bitch unlike Kris and Ralsei who both suck massive dick
Woah this Bible thing sounds awesome
>>728545981I love doe pussy
>>728545556How would (YOU) feel if an autistic cosmic entity possessed you in order to spiritually and mentally rape your childhood friend?
>>728546056CUZ YOURE A FREAK
>>728526764it's not 2012 anymore grandpa, HMOFA chads own this board
>>728546050
>>728546457is kris the HMOFA King?
>>728545556Kris really deserves nothing but to suffer.
>>728547285>06/04/2025: Judgement Day for SansxTorielWhy did Toby do this?
>>728547279That's still Luka.
So what was the final prophecy? Something like “the girl will shatter the cage”?
>>728547451Reminder Spamtom foreshadowed this 4 years ago, so he's been planning this plot point for ages.
doe pussydussy, if you will
>>728547564who?
>>728545556I have a interspecies crossbreeding and the only thing that will stop me is the confirmation on how human-monster couples work.
>>728545981Uh oh, thread schizo melty.
>>728547451Toby loves nippon and they don't like Soriel at all. They prefer lolicon Sans.
>>728544562Yep, Straightbros and Yurisisters stand no chance against fujos
>>728531368kek
>>728548529The only thing that can beat them is self-insert womanslop.
Realistically, what's the worst thing December could have done to warrant her well earned controversy status?Hard mode: no molesting.
>>728548529Seriously how is the Spamton/tenna thing so popular? They have 5 seconds of dialogue together
>>728545858Turns out Kris isn't that much different than Noelle and wants a GF who will hurt him.
>>728548698Spamton is a popular character woman love. Tenna is a popular character woman love. They have an implied relationship that ended poorly and now they hate and are obsessed with each other. That's it.
>>728548645slavery
>>728548645Killing Darkners with Kris
>>728548953They are objects
desses room has no windows and that's what she means by "I'm with you in the dark"
>>728548645Killing Tenma.
>>728548645Genuinely being the Knight and wanting to destroy the world. Maybe supporting your Snowgraves like Chara supported genocide.
>>728547792Mc of monster girl quest.
>>728548316IM NOT APART OF YOUR THREAD, YOU FUCKING FAGGOT
>>728548645raping her sister and her sister's boyfriend
>>728526614Any game with dinosaur character, the dinosaur character is the best character in the game. FACT!
>>728549115>You're real to MESusie and Dess are bound to confront each other in the themes of how to engage with media in a healthy manner. Susie found an inspiring comforting world of fun adventures and Dess uses darkners as playthings to be discarded, which isn't even technically wrong according to the laws of their universe.Picture something like her ripping Ralsei apart calling him a phony copy of Asriel and making Susie furious
>>728548645Her and Carol getting Kris into the red soul cult they're clearly part of.
>>728547285I thought it said Cry instead of Ch4
doe sex
>>728551661I wonder if Toby will follow up on the "how long it took for her to smile" page.
Dess...
>>728549425>Susie going super saiyan cause Dess killed ralsei.
>>728552302Canon interaction before she got run over by a truck
>>728538009>every other duo has something from the actual game>Suselle is just a generic tropeLike pottery
>>728552302Cute couple
>>728552302Kino.
>>728526764>he knows
>capcha: NORAP
sex
>>728553449but dess canonically smokes
>>728553757Weed is perfectly safe and doesn't cause cancer
>>728552894>>728553043>>728553180>>728553367Total Brat Death
how common is the doelester stuff out of here? why is there so much art of it from so many artists?
>>728553292Toby also canonically supports people making his characters prettier.
>>728553910It's pretty much a forbidden headcanon anywhere else. Most of the art posted here just recontextualizes the interactions in art
>>728553757Funny enough, cigarettes are way more carcinogenic than weed could ever hope to be. Raw tobacco might not be, but how many cigarettes are just tobacco in a roll these days?
>>728548316Seems like a bog-standard poopy joe chimpout
>>728553910Even redditors know about the “Dess molested Kris” theory
>>728546457HMOFA ran this board as early as 2008, there just wasn't a term for it yet.
Whatever you do, don't listen to "Winter Wonderland" by Bing Crosby while having severe Deltabrainrot.
>>728555517This is what I think the final prophecy is. The two heroes killing Susie.
>>728545858>>728545962How big is this Dess/Kris fandom? I thought its just some /ss/ coomers in these threads but theres at least like 10 different artstyles of them. How are people fixated on ship with characters that doesn't even have a canon design?
>>728546457Its funny that Deltarune is one of the few HMOFA medium there is. No other official games, anime or cartoon with this premise and i feel like it would be very popular seeing how normies lusts over Zootopia characters or weird romcoms about women milking Minotaurs
susie made me cringe immediately and her character feels more like what some fat, dorky tumblrite thinks of themselves than an actual anti-social person. her anti-social tendencies are harmless and barely present, so her transition to embracing friendship is dull to watch. i don't understand toby's fascination with her other than wanting to fuck her. she's boring as fuck and is basically the main character since kris is mute and ralsei is only around in dark world. suselle is also cancer to watch and feels more like a forced trope than anything organic. i probably wouldn't hate her as much if she didn't get so much screen time and if her 'badgirl' introduction wasn't so weak.
>>728556176>AIslopDeltarune isn't official HMOFA. Just IMAGINE it as being instead of coping about it.
>>728556374susan was literally based on toby's school bully so yes he wants to fuck her, or shipped her with the dorky girl in class
>>728551875https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfC98GBdBME
>>728556016The most acceptable headcanon is that they are basically the Wendy/Dipper from Gravity Falls, the fandom won't cut your balls if you say that Kris is the one having crush, they will however kill you if you say that Dess reciprocate too
>>728548529IM just glad Suselle is the fandom black sheep anyone bullies spreading cuckelle, incestious slander or thats its boring
>>728555517>>728555705Susie is fucking cooked
Normal route = will lead to implied Suselle but also apocalypse endingWeird route = will imply Kriselle but also different kind of bad endingTrue route = unlocked through Toby's secret flags, will end in happy ending and implied Krusie
>>728556769Reminder Snowdin would have a panel of a dragon fighting an angel deer.
>>728556450>susan was literally based on toby's school bullya lot would make sense it this is true.
>>728556374>susie made me cringe immediately>feels more like a forced tropeNo anon, you are the cringe
>>728556016Most people have realized Kris had a crush on Dess
>>728557032>inverted Delta RuneGod dammit Toby what the fuck does this mean
>>728557107Nice pubes!
>>728555705In my theory Susie is just replacement for Noelle who suppose to be sacrfiiced but either way Susie dies.
>>728557107It's more in the sense that Kris needs to have such a profound bond with Dess to justify the theories that Kris is doing all this convoluted plan for the sake of saving Dess. She has to be the most important person in Kris' life to make all this worth it
>>728556391But it is official? Its made by a major creator who was big enough to get Pope a copy of his game. And he officially makes game about Krusie and Kriselle
>>728556391The weird route so far it is because she focus on Kris instead unless Toby does a questionable 180 writing twist
>>728556374Woman or troon Dess self inserter typed this
>>728556575What if Dess was frozen in crystal as a teen and didn't age when Kris grown into a teen. Is now their ship legit?
>>728557474>>728557501Kris isn't (canonically) male and it isn't even him dating Noelle in Weird Route, it's (you).
>>728557380Susie just can’t compete with this
>>728557107I think Dragon lewds in his home indicate he actually would be attracted to Susie?
>>728557380What if Kris just has a crush on her and Dess couldn't care less about him.
>>728557708That was Asriels
>>728557708wonder if the plan is to use susie's body to bring dess back
>>728557673Kris is officially how you percieve him to be which is canon according to me and Toby at least
>>728548762>Fujos and fags on the gay furry games with pronounsI wonder
>>728557776He woudn't react like a distressed virgin to hide it from Susie if he didn't give a shit. Its obvious he took it from under Asriels bed for evening faps
>>728557673You're right about Kris, but Noelle waiting to go to the festival with Kris happens before her house
>>728557676>doe seducing /ss/-bait bratgrrrrr.... correction needed....
>>728557791True, but because Toby accepts headcanons doesn't make it canon. All humans are canonically androgynous in this series
>>728557551except a 'troon' would more likely embrace the yuri-ship and self insert as the tubby character with a mess of hair (many trans women have hair like susie and are fat).
>>728558003I know it's V for "vessel", but i've decided they are spelling "fuck"
>>728557858He doesn’t want his crush to see his brothers porn mags.
>>728558365It's supposed to be FVCK, yeah.
Kris and Susie are slow burn main development like Judy and Nick in Zootopia which mean they will never become canon and will exist as teasing for Deltarune 2 that Toby will write in his 50'sTHEN you will play as adult human and will have actual picks for Susie and Noelle or Catti
>>728558370which confirms Kris being into scalies either way
>>728538009Obligatory theme song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtJsffgNysw
>>728559409what did susie mean by this?
>>728557732>What if Kris just has a crush on her and Dess couldn't care less about him.Nah
>>728545701Lancer clearly calls Kris "toothpaste boy"
>>728526614i cannot for the life of me figure out wtf "glaze" means to kiddos these days
>>728559409Actually we are the real first hero so this is inaccurate.
>>728559409>noooooo don't rape me using my childhood friend as a proxy!KWAB
>>728559567Ralsei is the toothpaste boy, dude. Lancer does say Kris is "wife", though.
>>728559490Jesus Christ Susie what the fuck is her problem
>>728558567Worry not Krusiebros in 10 years in we will get more crumbs
What did Toby mean by this?
>>728559621we ain't brothe panel specifically says that the hero is THE CAGE, who has human soul and parts
>>728560208Which is the Vessel which is (us), too.
>>728560246the vessel is explicitly our (and gaster's) CREATION not ourselves
>>728560293Not yet, anyway.
>>728560037>I LEVEL OF VIOLENCE Kris!My god...Tenna seems like the kind of character who would randomly throw in some English words (Spamton does too), I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case and this example just sticks out for obvious reasons
>>728560208>>728560246Nah but its obvious meant to be a non-human with a human soul. For fuck sake the hands around the cage have four fingers, that's not human.
>>728559490Tomar it's you!
>>728560293Gaster says "of course they are the same" if you share the name and its mind is supposed to be shaped as ours.
>>728560464>but its obvious meant to be a non-human with a human soulit says the cage has human soul AND partsso it has to be a human or at most it will be some half human or frankensteined human-monster thing that rips a human's hand off or something and that's considered good enough
Kris is /ll/ bait.
>>728559567lancer (and jevil kinda) iirc say something along the lines of 'boys and girls' when referring to the fuck gang at some point in ch1toothpaste boy has always been in relation to ralsei, never kris, lancer occasionally calls kris 'blue person'lancer also calls kris the wife in her marriage with the cookie, i think
>>728560037it means toby's a bitch and giving the nips more clues due to their caveman language
>>728560486no...he's already here...
>>728560651Uooohhh...
>>728526614She's a fraud who's canonically weaker than the real members of the prophecy like Kris and Noelle. She can't even match Ralsei when he stops holding back. That's the joke. Susie is one long joke.
>>728560464Kris is deliberately dehumanized in service of them serving as our vessel, in accordance with The Prophecy
>>728560775that's shaqyou gotta dunk on the titan to beat itwhat did toby mean by this
>>728560464Which is the Vessel. It's literally made of parts stitched together.
>>728560775Of course Tomar would be the only non redeemed evil villain that need to be destroyed and not reasoned with
>>728534904Of course.
>>728560808YOU are the main part of prophecy bringing angels haeavenThey are trying to fool the YOU by making Susie the girl that need to be sacrificed while it supposed to be Noelle.You learn it at the end of normal route and then your alternative idea is to make Noelle stronger to face the ending of Deltarune in weird route.Then true route is what actually what happens
>>728539761Kris is the girl doebeitNoelle is the angel.
>>728561263Krusie nation is everyone's home country
>>728560464Gaster is a dragon with four fingers, he's making you a body.
>>728561358Woudn't that mean Ralsei would have to play along with Kris and Dess to fool SOUL??? Is there indication he has secrets toward both Susie and Player?
>>728561506>four fingersDoes he also have Shortcut and Smeared Joker?
>>728560627The Cage is literally right there in Kris' room.
>>728526614So how hard will she crash when she realizes the truth?
>>728560447Also Kris seems to fucking hate Tenna in the sword route, most plausible reason is that he reveal the deal but who knows, does UT also leaves LOVE untranslated? i don't remember
>>728561658shadow crystal foreshadowing
>>728561529Ralsei clearly knows way more than he lets on. That's what Chapter 4 was all about.
>>728561658
>>728533831based Toby
>>728559702>>728560680Cookie and Wife stood out to me even back then. Lancer spoiled the twist.
>>728561985GIVE ME A PROPER VERSION VS SUSIE TOBY I KNOW YOU HAVE IT
>>728561791So "girl has to be sacrificed" is most likely the missing part in the prophecy, right?
>>728561738>reveal the dealThat was a mini Tenna, not literally Tenna himself. The cut board 3 minigame would've had a lot more of them to interact with.
>>728552598>>Suselle is just a generic tropethat’s cause Susie’s and Noelle’s dynamic is just “babies first yuri romance”
>>728562098Yes, either that or slain.
>>728562098Other way around. Last, was the girl, meaning the girl is the last.Sword route told you everything.Kris, the actual girl of the prophecy, has to kill everyone. Susie laughs at the idea of killing everyone off because she doesn't realize she's not the girl.
Kris is a dude btw
>>728562062honestly it's such a blink and you'll miss it moment that i don't think most femkris supporters even remember it 80% of the arguments don't use that as even partial evidence
>>728562098It was supposed to be Noelle, but Kris and Carol came up with a plan to sacrifice Susie instead. But now Kris is growing attached to Susie, so now he’s planning on sacrificing himself probably
>>728526614A lot of people grew up with barney and got some sexual imprint on purple dinosaurs being attractive I reckon
Sacrifice X person plot feels pretty underwhelming for how cool Deltarune's story has been so far
>>728562721>when you realize the quiet kid could have killed you at any moment
>>728562721on one hand, it's pretty cool that kris has a knife on the other, i bet she feels really lucky kris is so chill or else she would've been shanked a while ago
>>728562519The thing about femKris is that most of it relies on blink and you miss it moments. There's a lot of them but they're all very small scenes that only add up over time. Like even the vessel creation was a brief exercise for fun before we jumped towards the second hero, Kris.
>>728553910It’s not super popular outside of the odd schizo theory shitpost. Even most of the “kress” art posted is just five guys spamming “normal” dess art out of context to make her look like a pedo.
>>728562825If it does happen I think it's going to be a leftover from the original idea, there's been a few things I think have been that so farRalsei calling the titan "the-bump-in-the-night" felt like something Toby wrote years ago and thought it sounded too cool to cut even though it's a really weird line for Ralsei
>>728560651Based cunnisseur
>>728561658>"Surprise Susie! We pranked you >:)"I'm sure it will go over well
>>728562721That's definitely one way you can interpret this scene. I thought the obvious reading was that Susie instantly clocked Kris as a knife-toting edgelord, which is why Kris blushes when she points it out.
>>728560651why did she do it?
>>728560037The dialogue with the voice on the phone at holiday's also reveals moreIn nip it says that kris can't enter a dark world without us
>>728561529Bro he's one of shadiest fuckers in the game and I'm including Gaster
>>728556942>”kris is their own person and not just a meat puppet to self insert as”>”btw collect their eggs to decide who kris fucks”Do shippingfags REALLY?
>>728542018I think he was going for punk rock but missed the mark.
So what’s Friends endgame?
>>728563058Sex with Vessel and Kris.
GAME OVER LIZARD
>>728563372もちろんIf Kris used her real SOUL she wouldn't be able to use it for some other purpose
Damnit, not on the fucking floor you dumbass!
>>728554091i really hate the way japanese people talk
>>728563018I mean you have high quality art like >>728545962 >>728545858or pic related
>>728554091i really love the way japanese people talk
>>728563125>proceeds to learn the end of the prophecy and not tell you what it isthanks susan
>>728564216kris already knows how the prophecy ends, its only (you) that doesn't
>>728563332Dess was the only lesbian in Hometown and she had no other option.
>>728563018How would Chara react to doelester?
>>728564367Compete against her to be the better molester.
>>728564367I think you guys are gonna kinda win if Dess is revealed to be human.I used to consider it papyrus knight-tier but its grown stronger to me over the days I've thought about it.The only real counter-evidence I can bring up is that its against Toby's norms to make specific gendered humans, but then again that might only apply to protags.
>Suselle is confirmed canon>Kriselle is confirmed as sibling love What would be your reaction?
do you guys feel like there are any theories or plot connections that people aren't thinking about enough
>>728564596toby also did it with the mage gerson was apparently in a relationship with in undertale anniversarypretty heavily implied that one was female, though
>>728563478Don't look at me, look at the game giving you a choice to do a suspiciously romantic/abuse route
>>728564596I really don't want human dess, give me more doe waifus
>>728564720Noelle saying Undertale Asriel's line word for word >>728564636 in relation to Dess and her being heavily associated with angels. Because she's the Angel. You're powering up the final boss in Weird and breaking her will, that unnerves Kris.
>>728564720>Every time You are told to close your eyes while the characters keep on talking
>>728564596I like humans and female humans but human dess just isn't happening, lol.
>>728565016Which Dess would milk Kris the hardest?
>>728565052>Noelle saying Undertale Asriel's line word for wordWhat?
>>728564636>sibling-zoneI would weep for Krisellebros.
>>728565171>... Wasn't really the greatest person.
>>728565091dessire, vapor and lex look like soul suckers
>>728565091All of them.
>>728565239Where in-game?
>>728565469Talk to him dude. It's right out in the open.
Susie is the pefect feedee
>>728565052Anon-san that's a meme dialogue
>>728565767Yeah, even the memes subconsciously recognize the truth.
>>728564720I know Ramb not being important is a meme even Toby plays with, but come one, someone that looks like Kris, took Kris favorite toy when he was a kid? this is sussy as fuck, not to mention the machine stopping selling smiles
>>728526764Sorry about your homosexuality anon.
??? huh
>>728559490cuck cage
Susie = butch tomboyNoelle = girly tomboyDess = punk tomboyRalsei = tomgirl
>>728559409>>728559490
>>728566218kwab
>>728566392>girly tomboyin other words... a girl?
>>728564720This same NPC saying Frisk fell into the underground because of Suzy in the "life's grand scheme"
>>728566451A girly girl who has masculine hobbies.
>>728566392Tomboy is when female character doesn't wear a frilly pink dress and cups her hands on her chest praying for the safety of her knight in shining armor
>>728566552you have no idea what a tomboy is
>>728560775>chris said he would play deltarune next time he got adam and tomar together>adam and tomar are in the PLZA videosBROS
>>728566721Enlighten us
>>728562345femKris autistic drivel>>728562659this one seems legit
>>728566690Noelle literally does most of this.
>>728566395we need more kress shota noncon
>>728564636Suselle is the most incestious shit out there. There is now way to subvert childhood friends into siblings and Toby follows good old japanese themes
noelle reunlocks real cusswords upon playing Isaac
>>728566392Noelle has zero tomboy qualities you tard. Playing nerdy video games is just geek girl shit. The fact she doesn't get the moss eating ritual disqualified her from any tomboy fan club
>>728567901>"Have a rotten day!"
>>728562345Nah. It's implied the tragedy can be averted if the girl is made strong enough. If she's predicted to kill everyone, that's counterproductive.
>>728567878I know for sure Toby hates Woodyshit like he hates Asgore running over Dess.
>>728567395It's a girl with masculine gender norm but still identifying as a girl and who maintain female instinct to have kids and only finding men attractive. Otherwise it's a butch lesbian, a tainted version of a tomboy
>>728567926She has masculine hobbies and wants to fuck girls.
>>728568141any hints he hates Asgore meme?I hope Toby isn't trauma dumping his childhood and Dess is suppose to represent his sister that his father killed while drunk
>>728568179bravo, like 99% of brainwashed modern tumblr teens that will never breed and most likely kill themselves before 30's
>>728564596>Dess is revealed to be humanThe fuck did this schizotheory come from? We see her silhouette. She's a deer. If she was a human somebody would have mentioned it.
>>728568341Dess is a human and Kris is a girl. I am mentally insane.
>>728568242it was banned in the anniversary stream during the asgore fight fingers in his ass was also banned, although that's likely because of 'ass' iirc kanye west was still allowed
>>728568341it comes from the weird wording sans uses when talking about noelle and dess from the alarm clock iirc although sans knowing dess in ut should automatically make dess a monster
>>728556647Suselle is just poorly written that toby seems to be setting up as a bad thing.
>>728568242It was banned during the stream.
>>728568660>Suselle is just poorly writtenCorrect>that toby seems to be setting up as a bad thing.Delusional
>>728546457every time i see this comic i'm reminded of the fact that this is a second version the artist had to make because the first version had some goofy cartoon barney dragon on the cover because the artist is a fuckin secondary and didn't know berdley outright describes how it's supposed to look
>>728568563What was banned? like saying "Driving in my car" or something similar?
>>728568660>that toby seems to be setting up as a bad thingIf that's the case, it's very well done so far. But I HIGHLY doubt it. Especially after the anniversary stream where he gushed over alphdyne and then explicitly compared it to suselle.
>>728568925yeah, i'm pretty sure it was 'driving in my car'
>>728568869Thats kind of an autistic reason to correct it? Its not even the point of the comic
>>728568925Nta but yes. The lyrics were banned.
>>728568958Toby is awful at writing romance. Undyne x Alphys was the only developed one and it was dreadful.
noelle sexi really need to play chapters 3/4
>>728569120I agree, but "developed" is a relative term in this case, right?
>>728569020Toby showing worrysome autistic tendencies. Along with his ban to release any merch with Lightner characters. It's fucking fiction. Even MOUTHWASH released the figurine of a raped suicide victim. And toby refuse to release a fucking goat mom and female barney plushie?
>>728569190Developed as it we saw it happen. The only other example was the fag knights.
>>728569120I dont think he even tried in Undertale. Seems like a recurring joke than romance. But it wasn't a game about teenagers doing teen stuff based on JRPG's so he might be doing something now.
>>728569120He's not bad at writing romance, because every other major ship is better than Suselle. He just has really terrible taste in the romance he actually likes to write
>>728569183Chapters 3 and 4 is Susie sex mostly
>>728568660Anon, you are still in time to abandon hope before you get emotionally scarred and join the dark side even if it's leads to a bad ending
>>728568774>>that toby seems to be setting up as a bad thing.>delusionalIdk Noelle is starting to show that she's past a crush and fully obsessed to the point of completely forgoing her other relationships with people whenever Susie is on screen. Not to mention it seems to be she's got a complex over her sister.Either Toby is cooking up some shit or he's so bad at writing that he accidentally wrote a good portrayal of a unhealthy crush.
>>728569396damn, she's overrated as hell
Isn't "weird route" just the route where Kris follows the prophecy and tries to prepare Noelle for her ascension as "the girl"?While normal is the actual plan with Dess to replace Noelle with Susie?
>>728568925I'm pretty sure it was the Kayne fingers in is ass song because of the word ass of course, but maybe riding in my car was too
>>728569512Same with FemKris. Either he set up a masterful plot-twist or he's so bad at writing he accidentally created a third candidate for a two-person mystery.
>>728569554No. The theme of the weird route is freedom. It's the player attempting to avert the prophecy in their own way, instead of following Kris's plan.
>>728569514She was first to take the Krisbowl. Noelle shoudn't have igore Kris and stick with Berdly for so many years while Susie was molesting Kris and sniffing his apple scented pubic hair
>>728569713she would crush kris when squatting
>>728569218his ban on lightner merch is 100% autism, but i think for the anniversary he wanted the more serious moments to not be tainted by fomo memes, which is also why he hates (the now completely irrelevant) torgore
>>728569554Neither are true yet, but the theory is basically something like thatKris tells Noelle that he wants to protect her so you can assume he doesn't want her to get involved in any of this, so this is where the ''Susie is the replacement'' theory comes
>>728569512If the romance wasn't a red herring but legit, Noelle woudn't forget Susie the moment Kris rapes her. The rule of "true love" means that actual real love interest would resist the tainted obsession. But it appears Suselle is just a different kind of obsession similar to tainted Kriselle. Her main interactions is some pervy comments about wanting to be bullied or drinking from same bubbler
>>728569616>FemKris>masterful plot-twist
>>728569616>femkrisNo femkris fags are delusional.
>>728570049nips love reverse traps
>>728570096this is a more coherent argument than anything femkris fag has put forth
>>728570028>Toby is an NTR LGD fagwild
>>728526614Because she's precious and beautiful and I want to eat her ass.
>>728564636>Kriselle is confirmed as sibling loveUnderestimate the King of Ero Games at your peril
>>728569860Togore?? The aborted fetus and brother of Asriel?
>>728559595bukakke
>>728569512I think you are trying too hard to twist her crush into a bad thing. We saw a purely positive portrayal way back in Chapter 2. Talking to Susie made her feel happy and empowered and bolder, in 4 there's the antithesis of it facing her mother and how they can work this out together. Of course Noelle still has problems to solve but Suselle is the solution, not the problem. Like the "forced" dialogue shows that Noelle denying her unresolved feelings for Kris accidentaly made Susie think she's denying having feelings for her. Whatever is the root of the Dess related trauma that can too be solved.
>>728564636>>Suselle is confirmed canon
>>728570193You forgot she would be a great trad wife who pick ups kid from school and plan a family vacation while also cook pancakes for kids and her femboy office salary man husband
>>728570525I hope Toby is aware how unpopular it is and that the autisti fan art of Suselle won't convince him that's its something the fandom wants
>>728569380Most other ships aren't written romantic in nature. Outside of maybe Kriselle every other ship is platonic.
>>728570049If it turns out to be true then it's masterful. If not, then it was only made possible by lazy/shit writing.
>>728570639He doesn't care what's popular or what the fandom wants. He's incredibly based in that respect.
>>728570639It doesn't matter. Toby likes his badly written yuri and will pander to his own shit taste.
>>728570049I swear, those people are more autistic than Woody posters
>>728570682No version of FemKris, intentional or not, is masterful in any way.
Deltatroon
>>728542018>. I'm not aware of any other Deltarune character being a retread in quite the same way.noelle and alphys
>>728571006Anon, I understand you find it offensive, but that doesn't make it badly written. That's reddit logic.
>>728570705Except when he was a fucking pussy and changed the rose.
>>728571117Your theory is dumb
>>728564636
>>728571117That explains a lot. You don't actually care about the "theory" you just want to do this ebin 4chinz larp. What a miserable faggot you are.
>>728570028The way the focus changes does feel legit to be important enough and not a red herring, maybe her obsession will be explored but so far Toby writes it in a positive way with Susie so we have to wait
>>728571249That's the exact same logic used in the youtube video comments. "I find this outcome offensive therefore it's incorrect". That's magical thinking.
>>728570705This, Toby does what he wants. Like rigging for Chara to win despite Togore being the most popular choice
>>728571496Femkrisfag do you actually think Deltarune is going to end with Kris being referred to as she/her by other characters
I wish there was just one thread on this website that wasn't infested with schizophrenic samefags.
>>728564720>Kris...! Wake up! KRIS...! >* NOW I WILL SLEEP FOR THE OTHER 100 YEARS.>* UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KIDS CANNOT HAVE SUCH A PLEASANT DREAM.>* FROM NOW, A NIGHTMARE WILL AWAKEN IN YOUR HEARTS.>* IN THE SHADOW OF THE KNIGHT'S HAND...>* LIGHTNERS, CAN YOU STOP IT? UEE HEE HEE!>* Noelle needs to wake up!>* Wake? No, She Has Already Awakened Too Much>* Let Her Close Her Eyes And Sleep Away>* Into A Darker, Darker Dream>THE SMOOTH TASTE OF NEO "WAKE UP AND TASTE THE [PAIN]".>* Did you, uh, have a good dream?>* It was a nightmare.>* Oh.>* I'm... just happy I woke up.>* But, heh, now that the games are almost over...>* Makes you think, was it really all such a good idea?>* Your mother. Your poor mother, what will happen if she wakes up...?>* (Her face contorted...)>* (It looks like she's having a nightmare.)>* He doesn't seem to be awake.>* Just a little CHECKUP, Susan. I slept on my arm.>* ... And now, it won't... wake, up.>* I keep having this nightmare of my arm... burning.>* What's funny is that... you two are there! Haha!>In this place,>I don't eat or drink anymore.>I can't tell if I'm awake or dreaming.>I can't even tell if I'm dead or alive.>I... I always did have that nightmare.>Walking into the darkness,>With the light shining from the doorway...>Then the door slams behind me.>And everything goes black.>... is this that nightmare?>... or was everything else a dream?
>>728571608>Femkrisfag do you actually thinki doubt it
>>728568141>I know for sure Toby hates WoodyshitYeah that's why he put Cowboy Mike in the game and included "You've Got a Friend in Me" as a piano gag
What’s Carol’s endgame?
>>728526614Because Robert is a gender ideologue, as is proven by how he designates his player characters; so of course he would write praise for a character who embodies the "soft" version of autoandrophilia, much like how his own crossdressing betrays a "soft" version of autogynephilia.
>>728571101Deltasisters he got us..
>>728571970Breeding a new superior race of human-monster hybrids
>>728571975>autoandrophiliaThat's not a thing. Trannydom is only a fetish for men. For pooners it's a trauma response.
>>728564636i'll laugh at the ship fags that thought otherwise
All those fan designs of Dess are non-canon, she might not even be a deer. Also she's probably not the roaring knight...I do like the fan designs though, they cute
>>728571608the pronouns aren't what matters i don't think any femkrisfags thing that kris will go by she/ her at any pointwhat matters is kris' role in the prophecy, which might actually be that of the second hero instead of the first, hence the theory
most kress art is shit that makes kris too innocent and not enough of a gremlin
>>728572165Correct, Dess is a human man with the real name of Togore. It came to me in a dream.
>>728571490Maybe its part of the prophecy? She obsess over someone as the LOVE finding her way. Which would mean Suselle is a bad thing because it will trigger the prophecy and angels heaven shit. Something Catti was also warning against.
>>728572073>it's a trauma responseYes, I've heard that before for males as well. I'm not affording them any sympathy for trying to bend civilization backwards to suit their demented, demonic whims.
>>728572165>she might not even be a deer.>Also she's probably not the roaring knight.
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>>728572254How much of an attitude do you expect to have a kid while being molested?
>>728526614
>>728571117I don't find your theory offensive as the others, but the main problem is that it reduces the importance of Susie and Noelle if neither are the girl, and the vessel creation makes it clear that those two and Kris are really important
>>728572407She could be human like Kris and the roaring knight is screaming that it's a swerve, only because it's still a mystery and Dess seems too obvious
>>728571926Yeah, making fun of them.
>>728572506They're both still very important. The girl is key to change fate, regardless of who it was meant to be originally.
>>728572216If Kris doesn't want to be perceived or called a girl in any form but it happens anyway, you're just making it sound like the prophecy is intentionally transphobic or something around those lines, which is bizarre. Kris then should deny their role in the prophecy on principle, not just because they don't want to die.
>>728572291Togore was murdered by Chara in the 21st of September, though.
>>728572216I do but I'm the guy who thinks it'll immediately switch to they/theming the vessel as the obligatory enby
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>>728564636>>Kriselle is confirmed as sibling love>Suselle and Krusie becomes a there is love in friendshipEvery ship gets denied
>>728572687>you're just making it sound like the prophecy is intentionally transphobicThere's a strange brand of UTDR fans who think toby is actually "secretly based" or some shit. As if Toby didn't get his initial fame by working on the webcomic where everyone is gay.
>>728570028Reminder this is when Kris promised to protect Noelle and she remembered how she felt in the past.
>>728572687>the prophecy is intentionally transphobicLMAO, are you for real?
>>728571006>>728571249>>728571383Actual tranny seethe on display.
>>728572872Vessel has to be they/them simply because Toby didn't give us a gender selector in game.
>>728572561>She could be human like KrisThis was a stupid theory in 2019 and it's even stupider now that we've seen "shoes fit for hooves" in her room, seen her represented by a black deer in the Mantle Game, and literally seen her in silhouette with antlersWhat would the purpose of this misdirection be other than a le epic twist that Toby never actually does because he's not a hack but retarded fan theorists are constantly making up>the roaring knight is screaming that it's a swerve, Dess seems too obviousIt's actually a good thing when you can figure out parts of the story in advance by paying attention, reading a story is not about the writer trying out "outsmart" you by making shit up at the last secondDeltarune isn't a whodunnit, it's not a problem if you can figure out who The Knight is already, there's plenty of interesting things that follow from that which is why The Knight was introduced in Chapter 3 instead of hiding until the end of the story
>>728573171Yeah, so Kris would become she/her to avoid pronoun fiascos when she and the vessel are referred to in the same sentence.
>>728573125If you think Toby is touching gender shit in any meaningful way beyond they/them pronouns, you're deranged.
>>728572687mask off moment>>728573046>secretlyhave a free ticket to a one way trip to negrotown
>>728572417i mean when they're not being molestedlook at all the OOC shit posted in this thread
>>728573125>>728573162>I think this series where the main character's sex is deliberately unstated is going to hinge its story on the main character secretly being a girl>"That's fucking stupid">TRANNY TRANNY TRANNYKill yourself.
>>728526614She's the real hero.
>>728573406>didn't deny being a trannykek
>>728573292Tobby is not, but the terms you're using to justify it and indignation you're irradiating, make you look like a clown
>>728573259I don't see Toby ever not using they/them for the humans, but female humans being canon would be based.
>>728573406seethemald even
>>728573292>in any meaningful way beyond they/them pronounsThat alone is meaningful, to the other gender ideologues he's successfully courting.
>>728573212Kris has antlers too in that very picture you posted, and the black deer thing only happens if you mess with the game files
>>728573406Notice it said ambiguous gender. Ambiguous =/= non-binary. The twist is making the ambiguous gender serve a narrative purpose.
Kris is definitely a girl.Men who behave as autistically as Kris are usually quietly killed.
>>728573125>>728573357Cool argumentsIf Kris has no issue being female, then Kris being called by they/them pronouns serves no purpose whatsoever but to be a gotcha blindsighting the player for le crazy twist. There's no reason for them to not be just called a girl in their own world logic.For your theory to make sense you need Kris to have some sort of gender identity thing going on.
>>728573640>For your theory to make sense you need Kris to have some sort of gender identity thing going onYou mean like being the girl of the prophecy and wanting to avoid that fate so she pretends to be the cage.
>>728573406>TOBBY IS REPRESENTING ME!He's using you at most, lovely
>>728573640According to the theory, Kris doesn't want to be called female because she doesn't want to die. It has nothing to do with tranny shit.
>>728554091I'm really ambivalent towards the way japanese people talk
>>728573610>Ambiguous =/= non-binaryThe only reason someone's sex would be ambiguous is if you've never seen the person's face. His own (adopted) mother, in the text of the game, refers to the character with the third-person plural pronoun.
>>728573593Kris has horns, and those are the fake horns introduced in Chapter 1.
>>728567487not an argument >>728568020>that's counterproductiveOr is it? Remember the tragedy happens when HERO_SWORD's level maxes out after killing Susie and Ralsei.
>>728573791So you don't think think that Dess' could be fake?
>>728573457>>728573561>samefagginghow embarassing
>>728573640muh gender identittyEvery human is set as they to allow the fandom to IMAGINEThat's it, if by any chance kris falls as the girl, kris will still be they, just like gerson's wife>in UT he doesn't have a child so he's gay!of course, of course, because the events in monsters lives aren't mirroring
>>728573775Are you seriously using the neutral pronouns = non-binary sex argument? Are you for real?
>>728573741So what?Kris could've been a she all along and nothing fucking changes. Changing pronouns isn't what's going to save Kris from dying, because the theory already assumes Kris refusing to be called a she doesn't invalidade Kris from being the girl. So why do that in the first place? Just for a twist?
>>728573947For gender ideologues like Robert Fox, yes, that is what he believes.
>>728573940oh are we falling to that already?Cry a river
>>728572983That would be a Krusie victory by default of it having the most actual chemistry out of any other ship combined
What if the ''Angel's desire'' is knowing Kris gender kek
>>728574021>It was revealed to me in a dream
>>728573950If Kris went by "she" her being the second hero would have been obvious when they reached chapter 4. The gender ambiguity did wonders in tricking the audience (aka, fate) of not considering that possibility.
>>728573593>>728573918>the black deer thing only happens if you mess with the game filesYeah Toby just has art assets made and put into his game for "no reason">you don't think think that Dess' could be fake?Noelle and Carol's antlers could be fake too, but I'm not going to make that assumption when I have absolutely zero reason to believe that might be the case
>>728574073Kris is a girl because that makes every problem in the game a woman moment
>>728574192Games have cut content and changed ideas all the time, and you've seen a non-silhouette version of Noelle and Carol. Though it would be funny if there was a scene where they take their antlers off as some kind of horror twist
>>728574041Depends on how much chemistry Susie grows with Noelle and Ralsei, after all, we are missing the "Vs Susie" for real once is revealed that kris is a treacherous little shit
>>728573918I think it's unlikely that Dess is a human girl and is instead just a deer.
>>728574153Then you're admitting Kris having they/them pronouns serves no purpose but to set up a twist. Does that sound like good writing to you?There is no point in tricking "fate" because you, the player, from everything we've seen so far, can't make Kris back into the girl, the game isn't about that, it's making either Susie or Noelle the girl. For that to have any meaning the game needs to give you the option to put Kris back into the girl role.
>>728574454The gotcha moment would be too small for Tobby to invest into itAnd if we think of the >Knight is a possessed monster bodytheory, then the knight if human would make less sense to be able to do everything it can do as is
>>728574454You're right, but I wouldn't rule it out. The fall out would be tremendous especially after years of fans portraying her character a certain way
>>728573610>Ambiguous =/= non-binaryYou're making up a boogieman in your head, I don't care what your tumblr headcanon for Kris is"Kris is The Girl" is a stupid theory that can be dismissed on its face because Kris isn't a girl. That's the fact presented in the game. That's it.You fags are hysterically crying about trannies to distract from the obvious fact that Toby would never do a stupid rugpull twist like this. Nobody believes it, especially not you.
>>728574513>serves no purpose but to set up a twist. Does that sound like good writing to you?nta, yeah, is good enough reason to do itAnd who tf decided that (you) are the one putting them in the role? maybe with their own actions any of those characters will fall into the role by themselves, at most the games lets (you) push a bit the development of the story
>>728574091>first game ("buh-buh, wuh bout---" his first game that (You)'ve heard of) is about showing sympathy to monsters, just over a year after real-life monsters staged a hostile takeover of both the hobby and industry side of gaming>"lol what do you MEEEEEAN he's some kind of troon capitulator???""It's amazing how much leftist discourse is just them pretending not to understand things, thus making discourse impossible."
>>728574578Personally, I think the knight is Kris after a previous time loop where the roaring happens and Kris becomes the roaring knight
>>728574412Anon, Susie and Noelle have had like three different sections whose sole purpose is showing them together and each only made their ship even more generic, soulless and lame than the last.
>>728574814That can work too, kris being barely alive and that is why the knight is all fucked upStill, it has no need for a human dess
>>728574513Kris has third person pronouns due to conventions. The twist is turning that convention into something relevant to the narrative, which is a device Toby previously used in Undertale.
>>728574836Like undyne and alphys? whose whole relationship is shown as a joke, and that was a real romantic plotDunno what tobby has against pure romance
>>728574993That only makes it worse, anon. It's not only garbage, it's a rehash too.If Toby still decides to make it, then idfk
>>728574954>which is a device Toby previously used in UndertaleWhat were Chara and Frisk's genders revealed to be in Undertale?How were they being referred to with they/them made significant?How would Kris suddenly being gendered as an epic twist make any fucking sense in the context of the story where every person they have ever met has consistently referred to them with they/them?All of this bullshit is just a different framing of "Kris is they/them because they're two niggas" retard cope but for people who don't want to feel gay about masturbating to their teenage self-insert character
>>728574954Kris appearing masculine only for a reveal to show that they are the girl from the prophecy would be an unexpected twist, but would severely piss off Undertale/Deltarune's tranny fanbase. If Deltarune came out 15 years ago those people wouldn't even be an issue because mass trannyism and gender identity weren't popular then
>>728574713I think it's bad writing. It's a device that ignores all the identity implications of using different pronouns. Feels low effort, like the mystery relies on giving the player false information, a compass that painted its North to look like South. I could respect this theory far more if Kris was called a she ever since the beginning.
>>728574954>Kris has third person pronounsNo fucking shit, everyone does. Robert just wrote this particular character to always be referred to with the third-person plural, because he's an ideologue.
post yfw>ralsei is the cage>noelle is the angel>kris is the prince>susie was the girl>asriel is the knight>OP is the faggot
>>728575208aye, what is good is subjective, and what will be given should only be extrapolated as despite this game being something new, the story structure is kinda the same
>>728575228>ohhh yesss, a grown man like me has been secretly playing as a cute young girl all along! the TRANNIES are going to be sooooo mad!Better get that AGP checked out soon sir
>>728575504Not for that reason, but because trannies are obsessed with Kris being a they/them
>>728575459>OP is the faggot
>>728575490>what is good is subjectivethe only time this is said is to defend something that isn't good
>>728575580Stop the tranny obsession posting with a hand down your pants, it's gross and unhealthy for you
>>728575396The only thing that would be kind of clever about it is the subversion from Undertale, where Frisk was supposed to be ambiguous and Kris having a solid identity that was obscured..it'd only be clever though if they were one of the girls mentioned in the prophecy and if the correct solution to everything was properly foreshadowed.I actually have a mandella'd false memory of Kris having male pronouns in the very first version of Deltarune Ch 1
>>728575396Then it would be too obvious, using the pronouns as a curtain because it is something tobby has used it before can make senseAnd still allows people to headcanon a lot from Kris even if kris is fitted in the role of the girl>A man can be a girl too! (due to the artwork)>he can fit anything because pronouns!Something that would appease the hair colored weirdos and at the same time appeasing the perverts>Yes Kris is a girl hehehe>If kris is the girl he has only female parts bellow!If mechanically makes sense, it can happen
>>728573940wrong again troon
>>728575814Am I fucking lying? Go watch a Shaay stream and watch how many times he screamed THEY THEM NON BINARY at Kris
>>728575750it is what it is
>>728574578Yeah, as much as I would like a canon human female, Dess being one is too unlikely. I will satisfy myself with my IMAGINATION.
>>728573457>>728573561>>728573732>>728575965excuse me sir you haven't astroturfed any replies to this post yet >>728575217You better say something soon or it's gonna look like it was completely right and you tranny-obsessed retards were blown the fuck out!
>>728575975>Go watch a Shaay streamUh, sorry sir, I'm an adult man who doesn't fantasize about being a young girl, so I don't do that
>>728575217>What were Chara and Frisk's genders revealed to be in Undertale?They were girls>source?My fap material
>>728575989A tomboy girl is one of those joys we don't see constantly anymore
>>728575896That's even worse because you're taking the lazy and incomplete route of simply not adressing the implications of the gendered role. If you can't write your twist without a cheap trick, then don't write it. >>728575894Trying to subvert something from Undertale doesn't make it good. Frisk's gender isn't even relevant in that game.
>>728576186Then shut up because you don't know what you're talking about and won't admit it
>>728576197based
>>728570925>badly written yuriNice tautology.
>>728576076not the same game bitch
>>728575217gender wasn't in any war relevant to undertaleit is in deltarune, due to the prophecy specifically demanding a girl (or two), and a prince as it's been stated a couple times in the thread, if kris isn't supposed to be a candidate for the second hero, why did toby give kris so many of her traits? either it's intentional on his part or he's a bad writer for accidentally adding a third person to a two people mystery
>>728576076>(you)So starved for attention, are you that fucking lonely?Anyways, this is another story so the twists will be different, boom!, mind blown i knowThat post is not even worth the reply
>>728576239Whether or not it's "good" isn't the point, it just won't be the first Undertale subversion from the game. Deltarune starts with a ton of Undertale subversion
>>728576269Nice to see a fellow human enjoyer.
>>728576328>Subversion for the sake of subversionI'm glad we can agree it's not a good twist, then.
>>728576239>ot adressing the implications of the gendered role.What implications?that kris wasn't born with a pp despite looking manly? maybe because kris only uses recycled clothes from asriel?that's it, IT HAS NO IMPORTANCE WHATSOEVER
>>728576415the point is that it can happen
>>728526614because she's the main character???
>>728576419The implications of Kris, being The Girl, doesn't want to be called a Girl, and uses pronouns that differ from a female identity, and has been called by every single person they know as a 'they', for no actual reason whatsoever other than misguiding the player and has nothing to do with their identity.
>>728576197BASEDI am humbled by the power of your faps
>>728576284>>728576295>>728576320>It wasn't relevant to UndertaleSo the FemKris fag made a bad argument and didn't know what they were talking about? Interesting!>if kris isn't supposed to be a candidate for the second hero, why did toby give kris so many of her traits?Everyone has universally recognized that Kris is clearly masculine until you few FemKrisfags started shilling your retard theory a few months ago.The Second Hero looks nothing like Kris beyond holding a sword which anyone can do, The First Hero is clearly Kris and there are zero other viable candidates for "The Cage with a human SOUL." You're making shit up.>That post is not even worth the replyThanks for the (You) fag
>>728576619You're a tranny arguing in circles because you don't like how heckin transphobic it is.
>You're a tranny
>>728576505Gaster can appear on screen once you boot up Chapter 5, call you a faggot, and delete the game from your computer, too.
>>728576619>Ignores the vessel>The second hero looks like anyone so it CAN'T BE KRIS IT JUST CAN'T OK?yeah, >(you)you'll never get your pp back and you will be buried with your birth name
male kris fags (despite being one) were annoying because "erm you're supposed to self-insert" when the game has an entire subplot dedicated to Kris actively going against you at every turn.Fem kris fags actively thinking fem kris is a genuine canon theory is a whole nother level of fucking delusional.Kris is just ambiguous, if you want to draw them as a guy do it.If you want to draw them as a girl, do it.Trying to make theories to affirm the fact you like Kris with tits/dick is just fucking retarded.I liked you guys better when you just admitted "yeah i like femkris because i like gorls"
I just find peepee in vagoo hot
>>728576807like in physicsIts all about %sThat CAN happen but really how likely? not much right?, so we can ignore itthe other option has some higher % so one can consider it a possibility
>>728538009>Kris only smiling with Susie
>>728565071People talked about that all the time though, it was very quickly theorized in its entirety
>>728576807The shelter opens in chapter 5 after playing though chapter 1, 2 two times and 5
>>728576994Kris besides noelle is the only one holding a sword, so of course he is not completely out of the picture for the roleIs Kris a girl? not likely, and tobby will never tell usKris looks like a man, yes, but is a game from a gay man, Kris can fall under the role of "the girl" because the game was made by a gay manAnd that would fall into A LOT of shitposting, everyone gave their reasoning for the possibility while shitting on the troon, why? we got baited, don't think about it too hard
>the best discussions>the best theories>the best characterIt's good to be a Desschad and desspost
Kris is the Virgin mary.
>>728564596>>728568341We see her silhouette, but she could easily have been wearing deer cosplay like Kris used to wear goat cosplayI used to be a proponent of the theory as well, but her having shoes customized to fit hooves in her room made me decide it's almost certainly not true
>>728577345yeah but you guys lose 1000 points because you have to associate with asriel fags.
>>728577361>Kris will birth the VesselThat would be both gross and unsettlingIt would be amazing, and will not happen in this game
>>728577461I mean, if the weird route is all about Kris losing her bodily autonomy...
You people are so fucking terminally ill that all you talk about is kris's gender and Shipping Wars instead of important shit like what the Titans are or what the Forgotten man is. Your primary focus is not good
the schizo should retvrn to reddit to be with the rest of his mutilated kind
>>728563243This is 100% the intent, she clearly thinks its incredibly goofy
>>728577978Good discussions have been exhausted, come back in like 8 months or so
>>728564636I put my trust in /doe/ not Toby long ago.
>>728577978FemKris is the only interesting theory because it's the only one with solid basis that the fanbase refuses to acknowledge in any way.
>>728577978Kris gender will always no matter what be a discussion even after chapter 7, this femkris is just a new form of gender discussion taken form, and shipping is shippingUntil Toby drops a newsletter we are currently starving of content because we already discussed everything the first months when a new chapter releases
>>728578639What would be the point of Noelle if Kris was meant to be the girl?
>>728578793the angelshe was repeatedly compared to an angel in ch2 and again in a newsletter thing
>>728578793She's the girl candidate that replaces Susie in the Weird route.
>>728576619There's more than one FemKrisfag in this thread.
>>728578793>Kris sacrificing himself for noelle/susie, preventing another Dess
>>728576994I like female humans because they're hot.
>>728538009memory lanethey were childhood friends......
>>728579767Nuh-uh.
>>728579173They love to downplay their relationship
Noelle is an annoying bitch.
>>728579767Humans would REFUSE.
Kris is my wife.
>>728580007t. cookie
>>728580174>First postRetarded OFFposter
Kris owes me sex.
