Uh ohhh... troubling times in SE...https://www.3dipartners.com/wp-content/uploads/square-enix-presentation-material-en-202512.pdf manifesto in question
>>728530106>shit talk company>stock tanks>buy cheap stock>own company???
>>728530106The investment group tries to find under performing company to invest in and bitch to get them to perform better for better stock prices They also own a lot of stocks in Toshiba
>>728530106Did the manifesto say the right things?
>>728530106Don't care, SE is worthless and should've burned to the ground over a decade ago.
>>728530341it was just a shitpost hitpiece that sounded like it originated from here
>>728530106Ok? maybe the singaporeans might have a better idea where to steer SE. Surely you don't think the current heads at SE has been making financially sound decisions as of late.
>>728530341Yes but his solution to everything is AISo they're fucked
How the fuck is SquareEnix even keeping afloat, XIV isn't even especially popular anymore
>>728530424Maybe they do, but more likely the plan is to chop it up and sell it.
>>728530341Generally, yes. They pointed a lot of fingers at the new CEO, but he hasn't done anything yet.
Let me guess: this investor has ties to Tencent, NetEase, Blackrock, or all of them?
>>728530503>Funds DEI in the west to collapse expensive markets>Takes over europe and asia game studios for cheaper enshittified product>Only wuxia and gachatrash leftThey need to be stopped.
If only they could fire Nomura and Lightning-fag Toriyama
>>728530415>unironically pointing to user reviews on metacriticAnd these are the people with money.
>>728530106Square Enix is finally getting what it deserves.
>>728530106I hope they crash and burn the whole company.
>>728530503>Singapore it's definitely the chinks. They are aggressively working with the saudis to hostile takeover vidya
>>728530632they picked correct ones at least
>>728530415The dq3r is so forced.>MetacriticKek they can use pajeets to doompost any company they want to buy them
>>728530106Can someone please explain to me how do shares in a public company work? How could someone with say 12% shares be a majority shareholder and hold significant influence?
>>728530619This is what I have been saying. These mafias advice companies to add woke shit then they flop, and then they buy those ipsIt's what happened with Ubisoft, the retarded kept nuking 80% of their potential sales because they need to make everything ugly.Even the dead space ip is cheap now thanks to the pozzed remake killing that ip value.So yeah these are movements made to attack a company and buy for shit. Namco was also targetted when they were told to waste millions in that pajeeta game nobody bought
>>728530195>shit talk company>stock tanks>buy cheap stock>own company>"Nuthin personnel."Japs should have seen this coming
>>728530106So...chinks are buying se ips?
>>728531541A decision needs only 51% support to go through. Normally, a smarter company would keep that 51 in their own pocket to ensure they have final say. Someone with 12% needs to get only 39% more from random easily swayed idiots who each hold a 1% or two, and he can take control.Source: gradeschool maths
>>728531541'cuz no one other single person owns more, so the remaining 88% is divided across lots of people
>>728532085Indians shitposting for Google play cards are a blessing for them
>>728531541>How could someone with say 12% shares be a majority shareholder and hold significant influence?if the rest of outstanding shares are heavily diluted among many stakeholders then you could heavily shift the balance with your own votes alone
>>728530632Then how do you measure the users input? by browsing 4chan ?
>>728531541buy enough votes to force a votet. watch a lot of tv shows
>>728531882Kaiba would do that.
>>728530195isnt that like a crime?or so.ething you can get sued for at least?
>>728532220Maybe use something that proves they actually bought it like steam reviews?
>>728532220theyre shareholders they should have internal data for that shit lmao
>>728532287Only if it can be proven.
>>728530341Private Equity faggot so he'll be even worse
>>728530195Masterful move.If only Square wasnt a mess that bleeds money every year
>>728530415I know XVI is a shit game but didn't it have critical acclaim?
>>728530341Kinda, BUT it's dishonest as fuck because nips just did what their investors suggested (aka censorship) and they blamed the new ceo for things the previous one did
>>728532287It's called stock market manipulation And you don't get charged for it by shit talking But you can get sued for deformation
>>728530424>maybe the singaporeans might have a better idea where to steer SE.yes that's definitely why they're here
>>728532404it has good user and critic reviews on metacritic. These are clearly cherrypicked.
>>728530415The dragon quest ones sounds like chat gpt
>>728532493>the sidequests (half the game) are really boring and obviously there just to pad playtime>yeah it's a 10/10lol
Will we ever get a new game from Yoko Taro?
>>728532287Only if you do it to Jewish owned companies.
>>728532287Sure, just look at all the hedge fund managers in prison for doing that...And even if they did go to prison they just pardoned at the end of a president's term for being god's chosen :^)
>>728532437>deformation
>>728532657Whoops *Defamation
>>728530195this is why I called bullshit on the whole thing the first time it was posted here, if you're an investor and you think the thing you're invested in is shit and not give you returns due to structural reasons like poor management then you fucking SELL, you don't hold onto it and post a giant essay. Nobody publishes financial analysis for free without getting something out of it.
>>728530106Can't wait for the day when Takashi Kiryu hangs
>>728532846bro took over a sinking ship and won't be able to see it through
>>728532819>Nobody publishes financial analysis for free without getting something out of it.Are you fucking retarded? Aw geez I wonder what the investor might get out of his investment turning around and making a lot of money —oh well, probably nothing!
>Square Enix went from market leader to the worst company both in terms of revenue and marginsWe will live to see Square Enix becoming the next Ubisoft.
>>728532971stocks went DOWN tho
>>728532819Why do you think they invested when SE was tumbling, they smell blood. It's all about pumping the stock price up by buying in, then attempt to force a buyback to reduce the public float and increase the share price further. They try replacing management with their own, cutting out personnel and then selling to the highest bidder since they own IP's that, despite lacking performance recently, still have recognizable and valuable brand names. I see people who think this group is there to help SE and bring back FF to its glory days since they make it look like they care in that retarded document. I would ease your expectations. They're not even the only group to be trying with this SE right now.
Aren't these guys trying to force square to sell the company. I remember an anon pointed out that the only one that can afford them now is sony.
>>728530415Even more pathetic is that the DQ3 one is all from ONE shitpost review made to look like several.
>>728530106>you now live to see investor saves the company
>>728534043I think tencent is after them now. Microsoft, who knowsTendie fanboys want nintendo to buy them tooI don't think snoy has the money though
>>728534157Dude they want to sell it off to the highest bidder, they dont care about the company.
>>728531541>you have 10%>90 people have 1%...or...>900 people have 0.1%you get da picture
>>728534093Who do you think write those reviews? Poos. They are cheap AND active. You pay a poo a little and he will shitpost any game, movie or product for hours.Hell I suspect the anti DD2 pasta was another pajeet since investors obviously want capcom too
>>728534187intentionally or not, the fact the investor wants the company to be better remain all the same
Nothing will come of this. This guy tries this shit all the time and is pretty known for it.
insane stakeholders control our global economy and we are doing nothing about it
>>728532287Oy vey!
>>728531541Imagine if you voted in your country's democratic election and one guy had 12% of the votes. He'd have alot of sway.
>>728534254HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>wish for SE to die day in day out>someone is now actively trying to kill SE>/v/ suddenly turns around and shittalks the investorI don't get it, why the fuck does it matter if these private equity vulture capitalist SEAnigs are only in it for a quick buck, it IS true that SE's mismanagement caused this whole mess to begin with.SE finally going tits up is a good thing
>>728534187Gutting the company and selling it's IPs off to the highest bidder would be saving the company at this rate desu.Square sits on so many IPs that only get new releases once every decade while shitting out Final Fantasy yearly. This is partially why they're in this position with their complete mismanagement.
>>728530106Will Square finally stop being shit?
what's the tl;dr of the manifesto?
>>728534254>BetterSubjective
>>728534446well, it's just speculation. For now, it's up in the aironly future can give the answer
>>728534254They want a better share value, they don't give a fuck about the company or its products.
>>728534506Obviously you fucking dumbass. But you made a bold claim that this would make square "better". Don't try and weasel out now pussy.
>>728530415kek.
>>728534330>we are doing nothing about it>we
>>728534445Stop making shitty games, use AI for everything, blindly copy whatever the chinks are doing. With a subtext of just fucking die so I can carve up your IPs to the highest bidder.
>>728530415>>728530415>shitposts>makes moneyMeanwhile, you're here.
>>728534524As I've said, whether that is true or not, it still forces the company to stop wasting money on making shit games no one asks. Greed and Laziness have been the main driving force for human innovation since ages>>728534593My "subjective" speculation is that the investor is trying to force the company to be better, retarded ESL. Now shove the up your ass
>>728530195>own shit tanking company wooooow
>>728534254
>>728534691What, pray tell, did you find ESL about that post friend? Be real careful now because it's always super fucking funny when an ESL screams ESL because his own knowledge of English is lacking.
>>728534683>Stop making shitty games,>With a subtext of just fucking die so I can carve up your IPs to the highest bidder.Sounds based desu
>>728534174https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/728319696/#728319705Tencent might be out because of regulations and tensions between china and japan, Saudis are broke, Sony makes sense for games and also having more control over the anime/manga industry.
>>728534691>it still forces the company to stop wasting money on making shit games no one asks.Not it does not. An investor like this has no say over what a company produces or not, at least not unless they manage to squeeze one of their own guys into management, but so far SE is rightly telling them to fuck themselves.
>>728534891But SE is still producing dogshit, so congrats to them for fucking over themselves?
>>728534043Why the fuck would Sony want to bloat itself when it is barely holding on to begin with? It's not failing completely, but outside of "AAA third person movie game with action elements" it ain't got shit.
I can't tell the benefit of ever going public for a gaming company.If Valve can be private and do gangbusters why can't square.
Reminder that (((stock market))) is the worst invention of humanity by a metric mile, just ask /biz/
SE destroyed himself long ago with all the west devs and consultants, those are just the vultures circling the soon to be corpse.
>>728530106haha "great analysis "That Bullshit Report that was made with no Data.Quoting 0/0 User Scores kek.And Using Sales Number after 3 Days. As if Games stop selling after 3 Days loooolits just a butthurt turned based andi
>>728535143It isn't. The basic idea of the stock market is sound, a company needs investors to expand so it sells off stakes in the company and then turns around and builds a factory. You couldn't have rapid expansion of industry without it, where would the capital come from?The actual problem with the stock market are people who treat it like a casino, don't care what companies product and view the world in 'widgets', and short sellers who should all be jailed for producing negative value.
>>728534961SE has been fucking up left and right but these are not your saviors. It's only about the stock, you're focusing on the wrong thing and missing the bigger picture because you're under the complete delusion that these groups have the best interest in mind for these games. They have zero prior involvement in the gaming industry and only took a large position in SE when the business was failing. That should tell you a lot.
>>728535143>/biz/Crypto loons and burnt out day traders, yeah, it the right place to go
>>728535290Nothing changes then. They'll continue producing dogshit.
>>728532238i'm pretty sure he quite literally does and that's how he buys kaiba corp from his adoptive father.his father blocking his expansion from just military tech and seto publicly saying it was a mistake then buys stock with a bunch of shell corporations so his father doesn't know and then forcibly takes over the company
>>728530106Either they fix SE or they kill it. Both of these outcomes are favorable.
>>728530106Good.I'm sure I might see some money grubbing but I will also see some better games
>>728530195Stock didn't tank though, if not for the action of these Singaporeans Square Enix would pretty much be Ubisoft.
Can't wait for Final Flush XVII from Singapore-Enix
>>728534423Nah, it will stop being instead, enjoy the live action movies based on their franchises
>>728532989>koei tecmo is doing that wellwtf that is very surprising to hearthey don't really publish (or in house develop + publish) any series or games that are THAT big, but to be in that spot already making a lot of money to their costs and not growing that much year on year means that they were already in this great spot prior to the 3 years on the graph.its really surprising, are they just making games with very reasonable budgets that are moderately successful? they have put out a lot of games that haven't done so well in that time period so its very strange to see them doing so well.I mean, I think its great, but its very strange.
>>728531541They are not the only shareholders who are frustrated by the direction Square Enix is going and is demanding more answers. Just by themselves they can be ignored but other shareholders joining in to ask questions about Square Enix is something the board cannot ignore. Most of the concerns of these Singaporeans are common sense stuff like Square spending too much in marketing and not having a clear plan as to what to do with their anime/manga division.
>>728534330It's not direct action but since 2010 I've repeatedly told people to be more savvy about who does and owns what behind whatever brands they buy so even if they can't remotely influence those things significantly,those things will be less likely to quickly influence them and other properties that are vulnerable to being snatched up in the financial poaching going on once the parasites have enough funds to do so.But no one listens.There was even a youtube channel long ago attempting a series that would elucidate the actual staff behind quality and innovation in various series hoping people would make more informed purchases from learning about the talent shuffling behind the scenes, but I can't find it under the small island of worthless flotsam.I will say however that I've seen posts mentioning or illustrating with graphs how larger, more troublesome companies are increasingly behind smaller ones through buy outs, and discussions about game engines becoming homogenized and a few even bother to do research on things like who's behind level or combat design for particularly noteworthy titles, so it's not entirely hopeless.The problem remains the majority are going to just blindly buy the next Fifa or Pokemon or whatever out of habit regardless of the domino effect it has and if you try to nanny them over it they're going to write off your advice even more as just nagging.It's unfortunate, but at times it's better to let people learn from example, like Nintendo going apeshit with its legal overreach. Not that that shook loose any significant customers, but it was probably a more transparent example than any amount of speculative lecturing could show.Also, props to the Action Points channel for the thorough gutting of Randy and Borderlands, it didn't change the course of history but I commend the initiative.
Our only hope is that the same Saudi company that bought EA and SNK would be interested in Square and save them
Name 1 company not ruined by dumbass short term thinking, greedy investors
>>728532287>>isnt that like a crime?Only when you get caught, otherwise it's called Tuesday.
>>728530415This is the equivalent of a twitter screencap. What a shitlord.
>>728536038Those guys are broke right now.
>grants you 1 (one) email
>>728535959Ito is the guy who was responsible for the GAME part of Squaresoft's old games. They put him in a basement closet doing negative budget crap like Dungeon Encounters.
>Let's sell part of our company to thousands of different people who may or may not agree with our worldview?>Oh no! People who bought part of our company don't agree with our worldview.Fuck them. They deserve it.
>>728531541A lot of the shares are often never used to vote, and a lot more are held by equity managers on their owners' behalf, who can vote in their stead the way Blackrock or whoever tell them to. It leads to situations where you can win a vote with single-digit percentage share ownership.
>>728535106Sony overall is doing fine, it's just the game publishing branch that's doing a tubgirl. Even then, I suspect that with hollywood accounting they're not losing as much as they claim.
>>728535129Because Gabe is Gabe, and boards of directors who've only been there for 5 years and plan to move on in the next two are not Gabe.
>>728535959>better to let people learn from exampleMany people are angered by the thought or experience of learning.
>>728530106Well maybe we'll get a new game that isn't lame and gay from Square in the future.
>>728536310You reminded me about the Project Phoenix effort to shake the stranglehold companies have over old talent through crowd funding.It's not like failures prevent success, but it's jarring how futile voting with your wallet tends to go. Like some strange murphy's law force prevents a successful synergy between customer and creators entirely replacing the old system despite how logical it would be.
>>728530415>the shitposters are holding the reignsBig if true
>>728532287Not really, there are entire companies whose business model is shit talking other companies to short their stock
>>728530501>>728532423This is the part that gets me. The current ceo has been heading for 2 and a half years. Which is nothing for a company the size of SEYou need around 4 years to start seeing the changes manifest
is this also the hmofafag that loves ff9 and ffta, because that guy is based
>>728530195Explain to me like I'm 4, how does this shit works? Why can't the company just lock the price of its own stocks to some reasonable value and refuse to sell them cheaper?
>>728537610Gets even more ridiculous considering he actually has been shifting the business pretty dramatically as it is. But then again it’s not actually about the business to these people.
>>728537692Once you go public, you sell shares of your company to the market. Since you don't own the shares you sell, the valve of the shares is determined by supply and demand
>>728537692Because then it’s not public trading is it?
>>728534275You're using this wrong. If anything, the crazed investor is pro Chudda
>>728535446>Square Enix would pretty much be UbisoftShutting down stock exchange everytime the line goes too low?
>>728537812>>728537823Well I'm sure Valve example would be convincing enough for the other companies to stop going public, right? RIGHT?
>>728537692What Is a Buyback?A buyback, also known as a share repurchase, occurs when a company purchases its own outstanding stock shares to reduce their number on the open market. This strategic move aims to enhance the value of remaining shares by decreasing supply. Companies often undertake buybacks to signal confidence in their financial stability and to counter the risk of a major shareholder gaining a controlling interest, which could lead to an unwanted takeover.
>>728537970Valve is a special case because they are not primarily a video game company anymore, they are a storefront. Valve could stop doing much of anything besides updating steam and they'd still make billions
>>728538016Dalton has been pressuring for a buyback already. All these leeches attaching themselves to SQEX.
Square’s been shit ever since their merger with Enix. With a few exceptions here and there.We oldfaggots just cling to the good memories.
>>728538270Japanese blizzard basically
>>728530195That's insider trading and allegedly illegal.
>>728538137So you're telling me, making games for *checks wiki* FIFTY ONE (51) goddman year is still not enough to make your company profitable?
>>728538196so this is just him trying to make some quick cash by manipulation the market by moving a disgusting amount of money around and shitposting in meetings
>>728538393It's not about being profitable, it's about growth. Your company MUST grow in valve to please shareholders. It's difficult to buyback stock, because if the company is doing well, the price of the stock will be higher, it's attached to the valve of the company
>>728530195Funny how often that happens. Remember all that drama with Activision Blizzard right before Microsoft bought them and then everyone instantly stopped talking about it?
>>728538314Retard-kun please actually look up what constitutes insider trading before you start bringing it up. Why the fuck would you talk about something you know nothing about you dumb fuck?
>>728530106Kek those reviews are from Barry alt accounts. He is single handedly killing SE with shit posting.
>>728530106>buy 10% stake>give squeenix and offer they can't refuse>squeenix told them to fuck off>buy 15%the point is now squeenix has to bend the knee or they tank the stocks by selling
>>728535262Thats not what the stock market is you dufus. The stock markrt is the trade of stocks, it has nothing to do with investing in a company, thats the IPO. In the stock market the product you are buying and selling is the stock itself and thats what makes it so evil. When a company starts to get traded on the stock market its priorities change, its no longer about selling a good to the consumer, its now about making sure the stock value goes up so that the “investors” can sell the stock at a higher value than what they initially paid for.Thats changes eveything, whe the focus is the product you invest more in R&D and consumer satisfaction, you want more people to buy your stuff; when the focus is stock price you invest in creating the perception that the company is doing better, you invest in marketing, you follow the latest trend, you fire people to keep the numbers in green, you avoid taking risks, etc.
>>728538431Pretty much, that is what these groups do.
>>728537874I'm using it in the "Nothing ever happens" sense more than the "Do nothing" sense.
>>728530106The very concept of "shareholders" and "stocks" is the fundamental evil of modern society.
>>728538431Companies hire jeets to shitpost products now
>>728532287Market manipulation and insider trading is only criminal when poor people do it.
What's strange is that besides FF being in some weird position SE has been releasing games and remasters. Right now besides Capcom most japanese games are really slow. The ceo knows once they finish 7r finally they will be able to make games faster, but, alas, they won't wait
>>728530415FF16 had the best OST since 8 though.
>>728532085>Source: gradeschool maths
>>728530415What piss me off that chink didn't call out censorship he doesn't seems to be informed himself also who will pay 20 usd for nog spoken like lmao.
>>728530415>you see Square Enix the problem is that you are making games that people do not want to buy! Obviously you should be making games that people do want to buy!Wow no shit how many experts did you hire to give you that insight you stupid SEAmonkey. The part they struggle with is not knowing how to do that because they’ve lost touch with what players want. If you want to save the company, offer some insight into what that is. Oh, wait, you can’t, you’re a worthless investor kike and you’ve never touched a video game in your life.
>>728542104>sir are you aware of [very obvious thing that you have more insight into than anyone else]?are investors just completely retarded?
barrys here, pack it up lads
>>728538294>Japanese blizzard basicallyHuh.When you put it like that, it sounds oddly fitting. Can't believe I never realised such an analogy.
Will this have any adverse effect on ff7 remake part 3? thats the only square enix game i care about.
>>728542753>Will this have any adverse effect on ff7 remake part 3?None.
>>728542756No it's nip blizzard, it's not about the profit, it's about held on reverence from the past.Nobody gives a shit about ubi
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>>728534330Nah, stock market was fine until americans turned it into a free for all for the super rich starting from the 80s. A lot the shit that currently happens was illegal at first and there would actually be consequences for investors and companies
>>728535784I think they just found the sweet spot where the stuff they're involved in isn't crazy expensive to make, so they can afford a slimmer profit. Nobunaga's Ambition has a pretty niche audience, but it's an audience that comes back for most of the games (similar to Dynasty Warriors). Though a lot of credit goes to Nioh, I think: those games are pretty strict with their budget, but punch above their weight
>>728530106...the communist manifesto...
>>728530415>Corporations managing who-knows-how-many-billions can influence stock prices with some 4chan-level cherrypicked postsAh yes, the market knows best, right?
>>728532287That's an antisemitic trope.
>>728543140Yeah, everything is out the window when active members of congress are allowed to trade stock.But this corruption was guaranteed 100ish years ago with the likes of woodrow wilson and FDR
>>728535143I’d argue the concept of an LLC is worse than the Stock Market itself.Because that’s the part that stops these cock suckers from going to jail when they fuck everything up.
>>728530195Sounds like your typical strategy from a certain "unappreciated fellows".
>>728532572Anyone can write anything in the net. I'm sorry if this surprises you.
>>728543106Nobody gives a shit about SE either
>>728543858Still makes me laugh how they snuck those nig stripes on the flag during the st. Floyd riots so they could insert themselves.
>>728543929Just like no one gives a shit about modern blizzard, but they used to in the past, just like squre(enix) Congrats anon you got it
This guy sure is dumping stuff
>>728542819Corporate minimalism or laziness, call it.
>>728530341It's comparing various profitability metrics of SE to competitors like Capcom and pointing out that most of them suck.There is very little in terms of actual suggestions on how to fix the company.
>>728539783And even when poor people do things that are ostensibly perfectly legal, like in the gamestop affair 4 years ago, what do authorities do?They rush to threathen legal action.
>>728530415Based.
>>728534330They dont control much, if anything their grasp has weakened in the past decadesNon-publicly traded companies are the new trend(hello valve)
>>728532287>say shit company is shit>NOOOOO YOU'RE MANIPULATING THE MARKET BY SAYING THE TRUTH SHUT IT DOWN How about they make some good games?
>>728534246>>728532190>>728532132NTA, but that still doesn't explain how being the biggest shareholder gives you any practical power if your share is stil that lowkets say there's a total of 10 shareholders, and one of them has 15.40% like the one in OP's pic.if the remaining are divided equally, then each of the remaining 9 shareholders has 9.4%, so all it takes to make the 15.40% opinion irrelevant is 2 of the other shareholders.If ONE person out of 10 wants the company to go into one direction and at least 2 of theremainin 9 disagree, those 2 have more stake power than the 15.40% one, so how does the 15.40% still have more power?The same would apply if there's 100, 1000 or more shareholders, cause the more shareholders there are, the higher the chance more of them are against the opinion of ONE
>>728543278well thats the thing, it isn't a slimmer profitits a big profit compared to the size of the companyits just that the profit isn't growing as much as others, but consistent stable growth when you already have very high profit margins is hardly a bad thing, that's still a massive profit increase relative to the size of the companyat least according to that chart
>>728535106Sony wanted to buy the even more expensive Paramount.
>>728530106SE should go private. you'll see the superiority of this model in a few years when EA starts delivering masterpiece after masterpiece.
>>728546370SE has 350 million outstanding shares, having a 10% stake in a corporation like that is a huge position and it increases their leverageif their voice isn't heard at all it signals to other investors that their opinions are meaningless to the business and it's also a looming concern to its stock value when a big investor decides to pull out for said reasonsSE doesn't have to listen to their advice (which they barely give to begin with), but they're also going to become impossible to ignore
>>728546810being public isn't the problem, they lost their best conductor and kept promoting people to director/producer based purely on seniority rather than actual competence
>>728544071>someone who also works in game dev>localizationwhat is this retard on about?that isn't game dev, that is support for game dev, you are a translator and you work in translation, not game devif you work selling, say, idk, game engines, you don't work in game dev, you are not an engine developer, you work in sales. it is the same for every field, if you are selling cyber security software to businesses, you are not working in cyber security, IT, software, or anything, you work in sales. working for HR at a game development studio doesn't mean you work in game dev, you work in HR.no one disputes this, it makes perfectly obvious and clear sense, why the fuck would you apply this any differently?localization isn't game dev, its translation.
>>728532220Uh, duh?
I'm fine with this, Squeenix has been shit for over a decade, I hope they get fucked in the ass by China.
>>728530106>tricks old people into selling their stocks to himsounds like he won
>he invested in squareWhen they see the bank account going down they'll realize how dog shit a choice that was
>>728547075as someone who worked with localizers, there isnt a single localizer who isn't also a dev, even more so if their language is part of the default languages included into a product, cause they have direct access to the way the font are displayed, the timings of the autoscrolling text, the menu formatting, the management and arrangement of font textures(in game dev fonts arent stored like they are in an operating system), etc.A localizer doesn't simply translate the text from a language to another, they need to work directly on the text visualization in the final product and all that encompasses how their target languages is formatted and visualized, so they NEED to also be a dev.If a localizer can't also do dev work, they aren't hired.
>>728547075>you are not working in cyber security, ITWorking in the IT department at a game studio does not make you a fucking game dev either. Me trying to keep retarded devs from giving hackers access to all our data is not the same as making a game.
>>728531557its not even just buyingits shortingthey're making money on the way down to buy everything up when its at their target
At this point I want all Jap companies who got into bed with annoying Karens and let them dictate their decisions to the detriment of their actual fucking audience to die out, as far as I'm concerned they're as cancerous as the Americans they work with and need to be replaced by the Chinese. Even the fucking K*reans would be better.
>>728544247I mean, he is a Pajeet, and a zeldafag at that who are known to hate FF
To be honest, the DQ HD2D remakes do feel like they should have faster battles. Ultrafast feels like it should be Fast, you pretty much have to go Ultrafast to get an acceptable speed.
I don't give a shit.I wanted two more things out of Square Enix before they close shop and never make a nother game.A good FFT port, which we just got. And Part 3 of FF7 Remake, which is coming out Jan 2027.I don't care about FF14 expansions. I don't care about Dragon Quest nonsense, or their 2dhd shit like Octopath. I don't care about their random bullshit GAAS titles or non-JRPG titles like Forspoken or Murder Inn. I wanted a modern FFT port, and I want them to finish FF7 Remake. Nothing else matters, we have great ports of all of the original 10 games
>>728532587hopefully no and that hack faggot should die a homeless on the streets
>>728530415They're 100% right with Forspoken and Marvel's Avengers
>>728530424>asking SEA fagsDYR?
>>728530415Wow, they're actually objectively correct.I hope they manage to succeed in their hostile takeover.
took you long enough jannies
>I (You)'d a spammerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf-ANnjvrlA
>>728535784>making games with very reasonable budgets that are moderately successfulThat's literally all I want out of these bastard companies. That's all they need as well.
>>728532287You would have to talk smack to the point where it's not just an opinion, but be libel or slander. The other investors are chumps for listening to someone lying. >>728532343You HIGHLY overestimate shareholders.>>728532369Maybe. But he's still not wrong in how much squarenix has sucked and why.
Can a company really not survive without whoring itself out to the stock market?
>>728530106I just finished skimming it. I don't see why people are so upset about it. All I saw were a bunch of ideas being presented on how to get SE out of the rut they are in and I didn't see anything pushing anything terrible.
>The company is now owned by singaporeansAnd by extension they are now owned by chinks, yuck.I'd feel sorry for them but SE deserves every inch of it.
>>728533707Because lots of investors had no idea how bad their bombs like forspoken were, and that the big FF 14, 16 and 7r underperformed.
>>728534330Is what this dude is asking for really so insane?>>728534365For reference, it's about the equivalent of the black population of america.
>>728534445Make less shitty games is the biggest one. Make shit the weeaboos and anime fans like. Be more indepth in metrics so we can see what your shit is doing. Improve profitability by wasting less shit on big failures.I think they want one of their own on the board rather than a straight kill.
>>728554434Depends on the company and how much they need capital. If someone with a lot more money from the market can clobber them, then, yes, they do need the market. Valve can do it. Nintendo is publiclly owned, but keeps very close control. They aren't trying to outspend their competeition.
>they want to revive Nier and other SE IPs>go multiplatform with all titles (no more PS exclusivity>listen to what the market and the fans actually wantseems pretty based tbqh
>>728556981they also talk shit about Forspokenthe investors are fellow Gamers
>>728557064They don't specifically mention DEI, but they DO mention a bunch of spending that isn't involved in producing the games that is higher than their peers and isn't getting results.
>>728557152so basically "consulting and sensitivity" spending
>>728534413Nobody is going to buy IP's that don't make any money.
>>728530415Did the manifesto mention the west's bias against anime and anything japanese?It's pretty much the reason SE (and other japanese companies) have been shitting westernslop nonstop.
>>728532287OOYYY VEYYYYY THE CHUTZPAH!!! SHUT THIS GOYIM UP NOW!!!!
>>728530195This is exactly what is going on. It is an aggressive takeover.
>>728530431Stupid, people are already NOT buying fucking AI shit all its going to do is absolutely destroy Square Enix.pic related lied and payed the price for it, we have to stay vigilant and not let these kikes get off scot-free gotta strive for that ethical use of AI
>>728530195This is a hostile chink-backed takeover.Rest in piss I guess.
>>728557334Yes. That includes their marketing department. And one of the areas they specifically mention AI is in that same expenditure category, for localizers/translators.
>thinking they came in to improve the games
>>728557562In multiple slides. They specifically think that abandoning the weeaboo market is a mistake, and that marketing and cross promotion with shit anime fans like is something they should do more of. Implicit in this is a rejection of woke, western designs, and games. They note some big failures/underperforms there.
>>728530415depressing how retards like this have a say about anything
>>728530106SquareSoft/Enix went from being one of the best devs ever to the worst starting late PS3 era. Something needs to change because they just make complete garbage now, like how they keep making a new mobile game and then canceling it after a year.
>>728530106Square Enix should just sell to Nintendo at this point desu
>>728558683Good, at least they identified part of the problem.That nigger Inafune should be hanged from the highest of the gallows.
>>728559727Inafune was right about Japan dying out but he was wrong on who would've won
>>728532220steam reviews (when available) are much better
>>728559553Then suddenly nindians would stop doomposting
>>728556981But the new CEO was already doing that. He is not going to fix all the problems the previous one caused in so little time
>>728557334Nips feel pressured by those companies either through blackmail or bribes. Watch the DQ video and boomers were confused saying they don't understand why the west get triggered by male/female options kekOh and investors are the ones pushing that shit actually
>>728561634Well, these guys are pushing against those other investors. I don't have confidence that these guys will be good for the company in the long haul, but the're correctly identifing some of the failures.
>>728530106Final Fantasy is poison that is killing SE. They need to just sell the IP off already and focus on DQ.
>>728561858Kek, no. Investors are the ones behind the pozzing. Namco also had its own forspoken which was a huge loss for them. All because they listened to (((advices))) allied with investorsIt's a trick to buy a companyIn Ubisoft case is even more retarded since they don't have the language barrier
>>728562151Why should they. You have companies killing to have FF in their favorite console as exclusive. FF gets more threads and meme talking than the rest of jrpgs. Simply just end the fucking 7r saga already and make one game only/pc day one, just like that they can sell 5 millions minimum
>>728561858>I don't have confidence that these guys will be good for the company in the long haulthey're not good for the short haul either
>>728562290/v/ threads shitting on FF and memes as a metric for popularity needs to be page 113 of the manifesto.
>>728563140ake nintendo buy FF and it will be the most defended ip
>>728530106owning stock shouldnt mean that you get a voice. it should just be a monetary investment. or even if you do speak up, they shouldnt be obligated to listen to you. even retards can have money.
>>728563974>they shouldnt be obligated to listen to youthey aren't
>DEI as a tool to short stock for a massive buyoutThe fuck kind of corporate warfare is this
>>728565424Why do you think forspoken and unknown 9 exist. To ruin a company and buy them cheap
>>728565493Sounds like a very roundabout way to buy a company
>>728530106SE has actually had a string of good mid-budget releases. Starting with Emerald Beyond they haven't missed. Shame about Final Fantasy, though.
>>728565572Yeah but people only care about FF
>>728565543they are building monopolies its a pretty sucessful way to do it,they don't want these companies to be good
>>728562290I hate to tell you this but games like Genshin and Star Rail are now much bigger than FF has been since the mid 90s. The relevance of the name final fantasy is nowhere to be found for young people. It means nothing to under 30s
>>728531541It’s like owning the votes of California or Texas in an election
>>728562196>In Ubisoft case is even more retarded since they don't have the language barrierYeah but they're all french/canadians so it tracksThey're paradoxically a bunch of faggots that also can't stop molesting women in their workplaces
>>728530106Why aren't stocks just buying and selling? All these extra bullshit incentives to make money off failing companies and the like seem ontologically evil in spirit and really parasitical
>>728567367Yeah, even genshin BTFO modern Zelda
>>728567782You are right kek. My favorite part is when they come here to defend their african/pajeet redesign since they want both the dei money BUT also the chuds money, their autism with prince of persia is hilarious since the prince wasn't even white
>>728537970Yo go public to attract capital. If you can manage with your own funds and don't want to bother with investors and their bullshit you stay private, yes.
>>728567367That happens a lot, most FF fags are either married and with children or single hags still trapped in the Tifa vs Aerith debate That said I doubt jrpgs can be bigger than gacha these days though
>>728567971>seem ontologically evil in spirit and really parasiticalIt is but who's going to stop them? Best case scenario Square ignores them and stays the course they already set out with the reboot.
>>728568356>That said I doubt jrpgs can be bigger than gacha these days thoughWell they haven't been for over a decade at this point.Japan was all-in on gacha for ages. It was just autobattler JPEG JRPGs like FGO so it wasn't as visible before Chinese swooped in, added an actual budget (which still gives them insane profits), some gameplay and stopped with the foreign server/IP blocking nonsense that JP devs reveled in.
>>728567971Does it matter? These companies make the choice to go public in the first place.
>>728559553t. nintentranny
>>728558683You mean in the slide where they call anime adaptions shit compared to Hollywood movies like Monster Hunter and Sonic
>>728534330ChatGPT is not publicly traded.Tho that might be because they are still trying to larp as non profit.
>>728569312The point being even going public the only options in stock trading should be [buy] and [sell], none of this roundabout make money poisoning a company with shorts stuff
>>728531557>china is at fault for ubisoft being full of blacks and faggotsnew cope just dropped
>>728568356From the picosecond genshin impact dropped square enix should have shifted 100% of resources to making final fantasy impactTo not do so was basically a complete and total artistic, moral, and economic failure
>>728530415>as it if's
>>728546370The thing is it often isn't just 1 out of 10 people Imagine that a vote goes super close what happens when you get to decide?The 1/10 is a harder vote to win than 15/100 sometimes, look at elections where you have 21% votes and you win because the rest were 19% 16% 15% 12% 8% and 9 percent for everyone else, even if you had 30% the 16% one could win with a 15% boost a 15% one could win with a 15.5% boost
