https://www.gog.com/en/patrons>GOG is doing so bad they opened a PatreonMan that sucks. I like them as a Steam alternative but nobody can crack Valve's dominance in the market.
>gog-chan is opening an OnlyFansIt's over.
>>728535715What is this retarded shit?How is it so fucking hard to make money from a storefront?
>>728536079nobody buys from them, people want playtime and achievements in one place (steam)
>>728536079They don't have loot crates or trading cards for one thing.
Isn't Patreon an american site? It's not future-proof if it is, because GOG is surviving on the fact that it's a european business in a time of american corporations getting in trouble with their overseas allies.
wtf is gog
>>728536143>>728536113>>728536079It's literally the HR department and too many employees. They could probably become financially self-sufficient if they fire the HR department. Streamlining dead weight after that would probably make them more profitable than Steam.
>can vote which games they should add to the storeKinda tempted to buy it and vote nothing but porn games but I'm not sure if it's open voting.>>728535845They should also do this unironically. Get an artist to pump r34.
>a battle pass in the gog appayo gang this is mid af in the big 25
>>728536079All GOG games are DRM free, which means everyone just pirates them regardless.
Anyone remember that weird fucking parasocial survey they did?
>>728536079>How is it so fucking hard to make money from a storefront?Easy -- GOG is dogshit, and they've been getting worse.
>>728536241good old games, it's a pirate site.
>>728535715Based retarded OP
>Why introduce a membership now? Is GOG in financial trouble?>No. Our mission of making games live forever has never been as visible as it is today. We're doing well, and this year has been especially encouraging.>The GOG Preservation Program keeps growing, the GOG Dreamlist has become a rallying point for unreleased classics, GOG One-click Mods are expanding. We've brought back some truly iconic titles, and more are on the way. More people are joining GOG than ever. In every way, GOG is thriving. The momentum is real.>GOG Patrons isn't a lifeline. It's a way to go further, faster. Preservation takes time, resources, and people. And while we've always found a way, we know we can do even more: with your support.STOP SPREADING FUD STEAMIESGOG IS DOING BETTER THAN EVER
>>728536320If they turned it into a less hostile version of DLSite, then it may have a reason to exist.
>>728536550>>728536495uh huh why are they asking for money then
>>728536495Motherfucker!
>>728536079Almost like if you put zero DRM on your games then people will just pirate them, who woulda thought?
>>728536079>he fell for the "steam doesn't have a chokehold on pc gaming! just make a le decent store!" memelmao based retard
>>728535845Honestly might not be a bad idea if they pick the right girl. Have her be a spokesperson or model? Then people basically subscribe to her being hot and doing vidya stuff?
>>728536495You know what? I believe them, I'd usually accuse anyone pushing this of just lying and doing damage control but GOG have been mad enough bastards to actually try and preserve old games as a business model so they probably are being truthful here.
>>728536113The people screeching about the master race the most are just discount console fags, it was always the case.
>>728536818I dont desuCdpr's fiscal reports have shown that gog has literally stagnated for years now
sup my niggas
>>728536724but piratebros told me they only pirate out of spite
>>728535715why cant they just do it directly? Patreon takes so much cut.
>>728537342Its not patreon retard
>>728536951Pirateniggers just want free shit and will look for any little petty reason to justify it when in reality they just want free shit.
>>728536495I'm also inclined to believe them, because the Dreamlist program is fairly popular. That being said I have to wonder if they're under pressure lately because of keeping up delisted porn games from Steam and DLSite. The EU is not going easy on that stuff.
>>728536818It's how they started gog but abandoned it quite fast in favor or selling modern games. Probably wasn't profitable.Seems a bit pointles now that projects like exowin9x exists
>>728536225Patrons baka
>YOU WILL NEVER LOSE ACCESS TO YOUR GAMES>bends knees to mastershart and Visa and mass pulls games off the store>WTF why is no one paying for our stuff???!!!
>>728537379oh oklol faggot
>>728537634what games have they pulled based on their content?
>>728535715I often think about GOG before falling asleep and also when waking up.Thinking about GOG makes me feel positive emotions
>>728535715>nobody can crack Valve's dominance in the marketSo why don't the other stores have to resort to this?
>>728536734Yes, I bet GOG has to put a huge team of lawyers on retainer to fight off Valve slapsuits non-stop and it isn't because they don't actually offer anything anyone cares about (nobody but people that pirate all their games anyway care about the DRM aspsect)
>>728535715>>728536079Today I will remind themhttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zjwUN1mtJdCkgtTDRB2IoFp7PP41fraY-oFNY00fEkI/edit?gid=0#gid=0
>>728537778*crickets*
>>728536495
>>728536113Explain the runaway success of Retro Achievements
I like gog. I bought silent hill 4 and put it on a usb. Then my brother wanted to play it so I handed him the usb and he was able to install it. It was like woah I actually own this file. Gog the gogmagog
>>728535715>Still not making a client for LinuxNo tux no bux
>>728536113>>728538483I will never understand this. Why not playing just for fun? An old friend back at college was a achievement hunter too... and he always got mad when he couldn't 100% a game easily.
>>728536258They already streamlined a lot, steamniggers tried to use it agaibst them. Some ex employee complained about gog not taking their retarded suggestion instead of focusing on the core business and the steamniggers tried to make a big stink about it
>>728538318>nobody but people that pirate all their games anyway care about the DRM aspsectAbsolute goycattle, you included.
>>728538483the games are not on steam
>>728536241Its like steam but all the games are drm-free and its mostly older games
>>728538797based on a true story
>>728538439I thought they did the opposite - gave away some porn games with a fuck you message to VISA.
>>728539186None of those porn games were the ones that got banned.
Im sorry but isnt gog owned by one of polands biggest corporations?Why are they begging for money????
>>728536225I really don't get it, gog is a fucking store they can make their own begging platform
>>728539414Too big while losing customers.Probably has to do with the steam deck too since buying on steam store is just more convenient than jumping through hoops to get the gog version running.
>>728539553GoG has themselves to blame for not writing a Linux client.
They get what they fucking deserveServes them right for blowing their 30% cut on obnoxious shilling and paid for crying about Valve on /v/ instead of unfucking their terrible service
>>728538865I mean the bigger issue is if you're, you know.An actual gamer, you recognize that Steam DRM is extremely easy to bypass by design, and why there's a way bigger problem to be dealing with a company pretending they can actually sell you media (software, video, etc.) rather than licensing it (There are very few countries you can do this)Historically this is also pretty stupid if you know anything about the cracking scene for PC gaming, which will not be clarified so you can make yourself stupid.
>>728536495>We're fine we just need more money to provide a better serviceBased, OP is a fag
>>728541125I dont trust a business that doesnt know how to run itself
>>728536079No games because publishers don't want to sell on a store that won't allow them to use DRM. Whether DRM actually matters is another issue, but publishers believe they matter, and won't sell there as a result. Games they DO have aren't as up to date and feature complete as on Steam.Galaxy is a shit client with no small mode and bare minimum features. Steam has Big Picture mode, Steam Input, Family Sharing, game streaming, and so on.Downloads are slow in Galaxy.Web downloads are exponentially slower.Why would someone willingly buy there when the experience of Steam is so much better?
>>728536258>it was revealed to me in a dream
>>728536724Same thing happens with games that have DMR
>>728541960maybe I don't want steam spyware on my computer? and want the ability to back up my game installers
>>728536079Steam is actively trying to sabota other stores or is this news to you?>inb4 brainwashed steamies tries to argue with meGay Ben's drones are so fucking dumb they don't realize that Steam has exclusivity deals with certain publishers and promote certain games. Remember how Steam wanted to push paid mods together with Bethesda for Skyrim? I remember. People who still used Steam are retards.
>>728542173I can back up my Steam games. Also, what is it reporting via "spyware?" >>728542192There's zero exclusivity deals with publishers. Name one.
Call me when their preservation program actually unfucks a lot of their Win95-era titles that still have issues on modern Windows that they sell.
>>728541960Those publishers can suck an egg. I only buy videogames from GOG.
>>728542343That you know of dumbass.
I don't give a shit. You want to preserve a game so much then decomp it and rebuild it with another team of autists.Not every games is worth playing and many need to fade from history.
>>728542590>GOG went full rubbing-hands on mods after the first month, by requiring you to own the game on GOG before allowing you to download a free mod from them
>>728542497All the games i own on GOG work perfectly fine on Windows 10 64x.
>>728542590Grapes are pretty sweet, though.>>728542665NAME ONE. You make an accusation, back it up. I'm American, not Soviet like you. Burden of proof is on the accuser. We don't send Pussy Riot to a gulag.
>>728536113This makes me think people's game profiles should be more open or federated. You should be allowed to connect all games to community features, not just the ones you bought on Steam
>>728542683Ok you first
>>728542192Which publishers>Remember how Steam wanted to push paid mods together with Bethesda for SkyrimThey wanted to add paid mods to steam, which required a game to support it. Since mods are dubious legally, and now would be making revenue, they wanted an okay from the developer, and they chose one of the most popular games to mod as test case.
>>728542707You can download those mods from other places if you want to download them for pirated games pidor.
>>728542720X-Wing Special Edition still gives me problems on Win11. I had to play the DOS version instead.Interstate 76's fourth stage is also unbeatable without applying extra community fixes on top, and a dgVoodoo wrapper to unfuck the colour palette.Outcast was also a fucking mess, but the original devs saved GOG's own ass by just releasing a new version from the original source code for modern OS support, and delisting the original. Then they went and remade it a couple years later for some reason.
>>728542939>Win11Oh, so you're retarded. Kill yourself.
>>728542939The problem is that the fixes GOG applies make it harder to unfuck the game and get it clean so you can apply good fixes.>>728543000There's literally no alternative.
Does GOG contribute to DOSBox or any other open source projects?
>>728543156No, and they don't know regular DOSBox is horribly broken on modern systems, still including it. Pure or Staging would be a better alternative, but polacks.
>>728542939>X-Wing Special Editionhttps://www.moddb.com/mods/xwvm>I want to play Tie Fighter and Alliancehttps://www.xwaupgrade.com/t. literally played through all of alliance in VR a few months ago
>>728543156Outside of DOSBOX advertising GOG on its home page at the footer and in multiple old news posts, no.Still is a lot of GOG games using older builds of it too, although I don't know how much of that requires GOG to hit up the license holder to be able to modify their side of the package.
>>728536079
Close. I would go for a subscription on GoG if it came with games. I've always thought they should just go to a subscription service.paying for nothing is a hard sell though. I have gotten GoG running on my steam deck though. Ironically, that preservation service really works. I own cold fear on steam and gog both, but I can't get the steam version running on the steam deck. GoG version works fine though.
>>728543313I shouldn't have to download a 500mb mod to overhaul a game that is still being sold for money that doesn't work out of the box, at least on my config.
>>728543156unfortunately nowhich is why i still spend money on steam because at lesst i know valve is autistic enough to keep throwing money at kpen source shit and linux
>SAAARS in thread are furiously sucking of SteamI wonder why brown people love Steam so much.
>>728538397>sts>missing updatesi don't think that's what you think you're meaning but i like your list
>>728543483It's worse when GOG supposedly did the work for you, but it doesn't work>>728543526Where's that Steam exclusivity agreement, Vlad? You still haven't named one.
>>728535715I don't support woke companies. Hope those troons go bankrupt and starve.
>>728543156I'm pretty sure they did support a few.
Reminder that the retarded third world tourists constantly raiding and actively trying to destroy this board have bought hundreds of games on this platform which is soon to be dead.
>>728543083>There's literally no alternative.Use Linux, use Windows 10.
>>728543389>>728543156iirc a portion of sales of certain games back then went to dosbox and scummvm but i dont think thats still the case anymorei think theyve been slowly transitioning to staging
>>728543724Still waiting for an alternative.
They have still yet to add any of the major games people have been wanting for over a decade. Only notable shit of late is somehow convincing Capcom to let them handle getting their old PS1-to-PC ports backlog up and going in a satisfactory manner for modern Windows, complete with working controller support (the latter which is always a pain point with pre-xinput games)
Only reason I do buy GOG where I can is steams annoying updating. I decide when I want to ruin my savefile Gaben, not you.
The only real preservation crisis in gaming right now are online service games and old Japanese computer doujin games that are hard to come by.Helping make some popular EA game playable on modern systems is not really preservation. Its fun and convenient and the most immediately gratifying, but it doesn't actually "preserve" them. They're all backed up and playable through obscure means.On the other hand, old discs do rot over time, and English DOS games are largely mapped out with some treasures still to be found, the Asian PC landscape is much less explored and full of wide gaps and unknowns, especially Japanese indie distributed games. Some of those will definitely be lost to time. And then obviously there's service games, which are being lost right now.GOG is being misleading calling themselves a preservation company now. It's not preservation, it's convenience, but if games being lost to time is what you really care about most I'd bet your $5 could go to something better
Steam won.
>>728543746Long as staging still allows tweaking shit. I am always having to tweak the dosbox ini on every GOG game, since I like my shit windowed, with integer scaling and correct aspect ratio applied, which their basic-bitch launcher never lets me do.
>>728536113That's wrong. The reason I stopped buying from gog is that their service is very poor. Having to rebuy a game on steam to play it something that made me question why I brought it on gog at all.
>GOG mentioned>thread gets filled with seething SteamiesKEK i should buy even more games from GOG i guess.
I thought of a game they need to do, what was it? Maybe that ps2 game with the voice controls. Hmm..
>>728543985What games?
>>728543924Gog has lovers kiss ;)
>>728544005They can't, because there's no PC version. RE1-3 and Dino Crisis had PC ports. You can't bundle an emulator, because a BIOS would be illegal to include, and expecting users to find/dump after paying for a game is silly.
>>728543882I fucking hate how much gog is being pushed by retards to console shit now.Apparently gog even tried to get some psx emulation running but got bodied by sony because of bios rights.
>>728544005Lifeline
>>728544229I sometimes wonder if they could steal some thunder from Nightdive by taking unofficial PC ports and getting the licensing work done to make it official. Eg. Driver 2 on PC.
>>728544229You can RE the bios, there's handfuls of games on Steam running on psx emulators
>>728544283is that why they stopped releasing games there lmao
>>728538483zoomers need their dopamine
>>728536079Pretty much yes. Nobody is seeking a stable business these days. Growth is basically mandated.>>728543468 also shit like this basically announces they've already taken the bribe money and are operating on some other groups behalf anyways.
>>728543789W10 LTSC IoT receives security updates until 2032. Sorry you're too dumb to install that.
>>728536495sounds like they are surviving but not exactly doing great. donations are a last ditch effort.
eXoDOS does like 100 times more for preserving old games.and afaik they don't even accept donations
I use GoG and Epic because fuck steam
>>728544116Games i like obviously. I am currently browsing the GOG winter sale. I wonder if i should get RE2 and RE3. I remember liking RE2 long ago while playing with friends and switching who i playing while the others were backseating. Not sure if the games would be as much fun playing alone.
>>728535715The problem with GOG specifically is that the second or sometimes first google search when you look up gog is gog-games.to so why would you buy anything on GOG?For a while I thought GOG was a scene group.
I was just flipping through GoG and saw that they have a symbiotic relationship with Amazon Luna now.Amazon finally convinced me to join up with prime by offering me six months free and the subscriptions now come with doorway even so I get food delivery for free too. I am probably renewing after the six month trial. Well I get a student rate because I am going to university now so it's also stupid cheap.Anyway I think I'll link my gog account and see what that does. Luna is a mildly decent service actually. They have me Hogwarts legacy for free. It's just okay. I find role-playing is better when there are characters I hate. I don't HAVE to watch cutscenes of the DADA teacher talking because ragheads piss me off so I skip right by them.
I think I bought Neverwinter Nights on gog and it left my brain for years after that.
>>728535715I stopped buying from them after they caved in to the CCP. Fuck those commie loving cunts.
>>728544672>Blood Money is 99 centsI think i know what i'll be buying.>>728544748That's a Russian pirate site funded by Steam. I am not even memeing. Steam got scared at one point when GOG started gathering momentum and have been trying to sabotage GOG ever since.>inb4 Steam would never do thatOh, sweet summer child. Steam is tied in with a lot of money laundering and shady money. If Steam loses steam that means a lot of shady people will lose money.
>>728545048Ok post a single proof of that.
>>728535715>>728536495>Engagebaiting
>>728536948I truly despise this fuck niggafuck steamfuck bloat electronware that took 1/4 of my RAM
>>728545383It's time to buy more than 4GB RAMoh wait, it's too late now, thanks to AI
>>728541960>publishers don't want to sell on a store that won't allow them to use DRM.this isn't true
>>728545165https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/a-rapid-evidence-review-of-skins-gambling/a-rapid-evidence-review-of-skins-gamblingHere, the ties to skins gambling and money laundering. Thare's more and you can find the inqueries and investigations that the EU and the UK has done into Steam money laundering by visiting their government sites.>inb4 what about GOG?There are no skins you can use to gamble or launder money with in GOG. GOG is a storeplace where you buy videogames.>w-why would Steam not stop the money laundering on their own?Steam gets a % from every money transaction so they are a middleman for dirty money. Steam is a platform supported by dirty money but you idiots don't realize it.
>>728545861>inb4 how does this work???It's easy. Criminals get their criminal money in their criminal shithole and have their associates in other countries trade skins with them and cashing out the trades in another country effectively having Steam cleaned the dirty money for them with the buying and selling of expensive skins. I unironically hope that the UK and the EU with completely block this Steam ''feature on European territories since this is how criminals finance their shit.
>>728545861I'm talking about the relation between steam and the website, I think everyone knows about the steam laundry machine.
>>728546194>I think everyone knows about the steam laundry machine.Yeah right. Most people don't know. If they did there would be a lot of angry parents.
>>728535715>PatreonAren't they owned by CDProjekt, a company worth 6.8 billion dollars?
>>728535715>>728536495>>728536550The thing is, they shouldn't be asking for more money than they already do. It's not a non-profit organization; on the contrary, they profit by selling products just like Steam and others do. The only difference is that they take better care of DRM-free games, and that's it.CDPR received significant funding from the Polish government for CP2077 https://www.gamesindustry.biz/cd-projekt-red-techland-receive-grants-from-polish-governments-usd27-4m-research-fund in addition to the multiple sales that the game has had and continues to have https://www.ign.com/articles/cyberpunk-2077-has-now-sold-35-million-copies-currently-cd-projekts-main-source-of-revenue-5-years-after-launchIsn't part of that enough to finance the conservation program that GOG is proposing?Why are they asking for more than $4, and not asking for $1 or some random amount like the Internet Archive, Wikipedia, and others that also advocate for the conservation of content on the internet?
>>728546372No, because slavic parents don't care about their kids.
>>728546372Still avoiding the point, but I think you completely misunderstand the relation between the two, even if GOG somehow grew into a decent competitor for steam, steam would still be the only place to launder the money. Why would they care if GOG somehow became a threat to the game part of steam?
>>728546448>>728546458they won't reply to this because this is a shill thread
>>728540287Absolutely subhuman goycattle. You should get a star of david tattooed on your forehead
>>728545798It's the 2nd most relevant PC storefront and major publishers are adding their post 2019 releases to fucking EGS instead. Why do you think that's happening?
>>728541960>Downloads are slow in GalaxyKek imagine being slower than downloading from a pirated gog DDL
>>728547598Baldur's Gate 3 was day 1 on GOG. So some major games are day 1 on GOG.
>>728547770I'm in Europe and GOG servers are faster than Steam for me.
motherfuckers...
>>728547862I can see the building with the Steam servers from my apartment balcony.
>>728536079>people that would buy from them don't understand the value and just buy from steam>everyone else pirates because they provide safe installers
>>728548006
>>728547946Tought luck for you. But even i was downloading half my current speed i still wouldn't be using Steam. I have principles.
>>728547789i never said it was all but if compare both catalogues of publishers like bethesda, sony, sega, konami, nippon ichi, 2k and among others then you can see a clear preferrence
>>728548281I play games instead of fighting culture wars.
>>728536079Why would I buy games from GOG when I get them all for free?https://gog-games.to/
>>728548423I pay for gog games, I buy and refund Denuvo games so they lose money.
>>728538685I personally see achievements as a way to guide yourself into 100% a game. i.e getting the most out of your game.Of course I'm not the type to obsessively go for 100% and will gladly stop "hunting" if something looks retarded. But for example, Rift Wizard 2, was fun to 100%.
GoG doesn't throw utter trash in your face when you're looking for cheap games and you can filter out DLCs, so it's easier to find actual games worth playing.
>>728535715well well well, seems like being steam for thirdies wasn't the winning move after all
>>728535715>>728536079https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effectPeople don't want to log into two or three platforms. They want one application to launch all their games so we don't have a ton of digital distribution apps like TVs. They don't want two separate friends lists. And devs/publishers are going to support the most common customer base first >>728538397 .
>>728536258Ah another " I read something online and now I'll act like a pro about the subject even tho I'm a retard" take
>>728542665>steam wants to spy on you!!!yeah that's exactly why they're pushing for linux and spyware anticheat makers seethe at them
>>728549010This is not about Steam collecting data you retard. Read the thread.
>>728541125Lol, lmao
>>728536495I just lost the game.
>>728538397Yeesh. Wtf happened? I remember GoG being respectable 15 years ago.
If it's a newer game I typically buy it on Steam, but for older games I always buy them off GOG. They just keep the older games in better condition and it feels nice to download the games as ZIPs
>>728546458I have no idea what are you even trying to argue here. Do you think GOG sold 35 million copies of Cyberpunk?
>>728542343>I can back up my Steam gamesYou literally can't unless you violate their terms and conditions, you don't own any of the games you bought on Steam, you are only being allowed to play them.
>>728548379I do too, and I want to keep playing them, this is why I buy games from a place that intends on keeping it that way.
>>728551630Why not just back up your Steam games?
>>728551726I don't think you understand how Steam back up works. You do not own a copy of the game if you buy it from Steam.
>>728535715>And for supporting us on Patreon, you get nothing! Lol!What are they thinking? They're not running a charity or anything.
>>728535715Does GOG have good Linux support? One of the main reasons I use Steam is because its Linux support is mostly excellent. It has seamless Proton integration. One of the main features of GOG is game preservation and making old titles seamlessly playable, but I don't know how true that is for Linux machines. Last time I checked you can't even run their launcher natively. And before someone spergs out, I do recognize that my use case constitutes a small minority of players, I'm just talking about why *I* stick with Steam.
>>728552063I can copy my Steam games and they can't take them away from me.
>>728552113Gog used to make Linux support a feature, but at the very least you won't get anti-cheat issues since it's basically DRM.
What game have they actually preserved that wasn't already playable by user mods?https://www.retro-exo.com/win9x.htmlThis website/program has done more than GOG and it's just a torrent. GOG is a scam for retards.
So why dont they just become a "brand" on steam and release there? They can send out whatever games they release in the exact same portable, personally storable way they do now.
>>728552228If we are talking about illegal measures, you can do that in any platform or store. But if we are talking about the Back up feature of Steam, it will only work as long as Steam allows you to play that back up.Basically, Steam sells you a revocable license to play the game through Steam.Gog sells you a copy of the game so you can legally own it.And since both are basically the same price, I would always rather buy it from GOG if I can. It's not that complicated.
https://www.gog.com/en/workGee, I wonder why they're leaking money...
>>728552568It would be functionally worse than just releasing the virgin game like the original publisher would. GOG shit a lot of the time is out of date and requires dehacking it so you can hack it again with current stuff.>>728552698If you own your game on GOG, why can't you legally share it with your family like you can on Steam? Sounds like pretty piss poor "ownership." Inb4>but I canYou can't.>3.3 Your GOG account and GOG content are personal to you and cannot be shared with, sold, gifted or transferred to anyone else.On Steam, I can.
>>728535715Should've matched feature parity with Steam YEARS ago.
>>728552814Every company displays that like some kind of badge of honor. It hasn't permeated into CD Project Red's games... Yet. They allow anime games Steam doesn't, for example.
>>728553194>anime gamesSounds diverse to me.
so it's an alternative way to probably have them ACTUALLY pay attention to the games people request. That's kinda neat.I wouldn't bother but I mean, if they can get some of those JRPG pc ports on there like the original legend of heroes games, or asda story or whatever.
When are they going to get the rest of the Rance games?
>>728553357>the original legend of heroes gamesDid you see how the remake skipped Gog? Under the new publisher, it will never happen. No more Falcom games.
>>728553194But they pussied out with Hatred, and that Taiwanese horror game that they promoted and then wimped out, last second: ""After receiving many messages from gamers, we have decided not to list the game in our store""
>they are prominently displaying Freelancer as a game that could be saved if they get patronsYeah, this is 100% bullshit. Microsoft doesn't give a fuck about their old games catalog and won't let GoG buy the license because of that. No amount of throwing money at GoG will change that. Using Freelancer as bait is scummy as fuck since they know full damn well MS won't let them have it.
>>728553740The only explanation is that the people behind these exclusions are mentally ill, but you can only buy Devotion from the developer's website.
>>728536495Imagine actually believing any of this bullshit.
>>728552907>Sounds like pretty piss poor "ownership."Yeah, it's a personal copy, but it's still yours to back up and play whenever you want. If GOG closes, you can still legally play your own copy. Actually, you don't even need the GOG launcher to play any of their games, since they all comes with offline installer and launchers.>On Steam, I canAnd I think it's a neat feature that I wish GOG had too, but that doesn't mean you own the game in any shape or form. If Steam ever goes down or changes policy, you can lose the right to play the game or any back up you have made.
>>728553620I don't care about trails slop I'm talking about the real legend of heroes games.Either way like I said it's 0 stakes for me, I won't sub until they get some games I actually want so I know they have the inroads.I'd like to see squenix eventually let them put stuff like pixel remaster (since we know they azbandoned the engine) or chronotrigger or FF3/4 3d or what have you, but I know it's not possible so oh well.
someone post the GOG email survey where they asked if you would consider them your friend I don't have it on me
>>728537569More like exobloat9x
>>728536258Didn't GOG financials get posted last year and they had a ton of employees for seemingly no reason?
>>728535715Rest in piss niggers. You don't even own the games you buy from there.
While you guys are here please vote on the Monster Hunter games so maybe they can someday get HD ports:https://www.gog.com/dreamlist/game/monster-hunter-4-ultimate-2014https://www.gog.com/dreamlist/game/monster-hunter-generations-ultimate-2017https://www.gog.com/dreamlist/game/monster-hunter-3-ultimate-2011https://www.gog.com/dreamlist/game/monster-hunter-2004https://www.gog.com/dreamlist/game/monster-hunter-2-2006
>>728548826He's not wrong, tho, GOG can be perfectly profitable if they either operate with the right amount of workers, or for the love of fucking God, if they made an actually properly functional store.Literally everyone knows for example that the Linux backend hasn't changed a single line of code since they released support initially, the fucking galaxy app has had severe security issues and lack of maintenance since they released it years ago, this app is not available outside windows, which is required to have online capabilities within games, the process to upload an update is so bad a lot of games are several versions behind steam.They should just make a decision, either operate on a budget and earn money, or bite the bullet, hire people to improve the store and try and compete with steam, you can't just play pretend to bite the bullet and at the same time don't improve the store by a single bit.
>>728552930Keep your fucking music player and gemstore
>>728555489Brother Gog does the bare-minimum required to get games running on modern systems, you're not getting HD textures you're not getting complicated bug fixes, you're not even getting a replacement for the fact that Gog just lazily cuts online from every old game they host.
>>728536724Ah, so that's why Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk sold so poorly.
>>728554626GOG actually fixes their games. I know that you zoomers don't know it but originally Fallout games were super broken on Steam and were only working on GOG. Only recently Steam got fixed versions. What is more hilarious is that Steam got caught selling the GOG version of some game(don't remember the name but people were able to tell that it was the GOG version since it had the GOG install hooks still in). Steam is garbage.
>>728536079>How is it so fucking hard to make money from a storefront?All of you niggers were screaming DRM free. Why aren't you supporting GOG?
>>728558135Yeah but the employees weren't in whatever department was fixing old games. They were in something completely separate like webapp development iirc
>>728535715Cool. When are they releasing the gogchanxzonetan dating sim?
https://www.gog.com/dreamlist/game/sakuna-of-rice-and-ruin-2020
>>728558135I bet they worked on Steam if you applied the same community fixes that GOG did.
>>728559716Wish granted.
>donations instead of just buying more gameswat
>>728560032I simply just buy more games since there are so many games on my GOG wishlist already. This is for people who want to directly support GOG with 100% of money going towards GOG. When you buy games a % goes to the publisher of the game. I am still a bit salty that i bought Diablo on GOG only for Blizzard to delist the moment they saw people were interested in their old games and try and force people to buy from the Blizzard launcher. That's why i now buy only from Publishers and Developers that have proven to be GOG regulars.>Larian are GOG regulars>Owlcat are GOG regulars>CDPR are obviously GOG regularsThere are several more but i should check my library to remember them. Publishers that tried to fuck over GOG like Blizzard can burn in hell.
Release games I care about and I will give you money for games I care about, I will never accept any attempts at trying to normalize subscriptions for storefronts on PC.
>>728557197I swear there was this one game they ported over from an Xbox 360 version, but that video appears to have been wiped. It was probably that they used the source from that version instead.https://youtu.be/UBXbrofwKwM?t=587Ah! Found it. It appears to have only used it as a reference. But I sure as HECK wish they'd just give you the option to NOT install their Dosbox redistributions and just keep the original files.>>728543251Dosbox Pure has entire features removed for no reason, like actual file system mounting last time I checked, and weird quirks in that it won't let you increase CPU cycles past a certain point, even if it visually tells you you did. This is necessary for modding older games for extended view distances in TES Arena, for example.>>728543746But is Staging any better than X? I wouldn't think so, as it appears to leave every obscure setting gui'd, but it won't let mix filters, which you would if you wanted scanlines.
>>728536495they sound desperate
>>728560719>CDPR are obviously GOG regularsHow tight is that relationship at this point?Are they still legally or ownership-tied, or just aroots and culture thing quickly drowning in commifornia slop and DEI hiring?
>>728562538Staging should still be a solid alternative.>>728563027CDP owns CDPR and GOG. That doesn't mean they'll always cooperate. Remember Sony Music suing Sony Electronics over MP3 players?
>>728563207Ah good to know
>>728555489Voted all them.
>>728559920kek
>>728536079Their goals are beyond your understanding.
>>728557197>you're not getting HD texturesGood>you're not getting complicated bug fixesGood>you're not even getting a replacement for the fact that Gog just lazily cuts online from every old game they host.I'm sure MH would be different, I believe there's room for this to happen with a large publisher like Capcom.It's the only way to show Capcom we want these ported to modern systems either way
>>728553194>It hasn't permeated into CD Project Red's games... Yet.They explain exactly how it has here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU-db73BAFI
>>728536113Fucking stupid people
>>728536798fuckGOG-chan vtuber streaming old games
>>728536113Only idiots want those.
>>728564846>I'm sure MH would be differentThey put IOI's Hitman on GOG and there were riots in the forums and they got forced to take it down because it locked progression to being online and therefore couldn't be considered DRM free.GOG won't touch anything with online since.
>>728536818if they hadn't fought capcom tooth and nail to get the original RE games on GOG I'd probably think they were lyingwhoever's running that preservation department, they really do care, and god I hope they get the ps2 yakuza games on there some day
PC niggers be like "muh freesom" but won't take Gabe Niggers dick outdeymouf
>>728565203MH's progression does not require online at all. All the games listed have offline hubs that share progression with online.
>>728558135>Steam got caught selling the GOG version of some gamehuh? valve doesn't manage any of the games, it's up to the developers/publishers to update packages
>>728565359No, Valve is the ANTICHRIST!!!!1!!!
>>728565241These are 3 of the most popular games ever. Available on basically every console ever What the fuck have they "preserved"? here?
>>728564926Post the DEI game.
>>728565459>Available on basically every console everRE3 has never been available on anything since the 6th gen consoles.
>>728565497Cyberpunk?
>>728542832missed me with the commie shit
explain to me why this is bad without sounding like a steam cultist
>>728551408Are GOG users all retards or just baiting? It's one of the oldest Steam features.
>>728552814>menstruating employeesHow would you describe male employees?>ejaculating employees
>>728550163It's not that crazy. A huge portion of the list is just that the game is an update two or behind, missing a single language option, shit like that. Obviously not ideal, but not nearly as bad as the ones that are missing content or run at in reduced state.
>>728565203thats pretty based, fuck online trannies
>>728536495>>728537542>I'm also inclined to believe them, Man, if only CDPR was a publicly traded company so everyone could read their financial reports...
It's amazing that a failing game store has the money to hire jeets to shill for it on 4chan.
>>728539501They did. It's "patron." Goddammit, you guys need to work on your reading comprehension sometimes.
>>728536113I want those
>>728536649Probably to pay licensing fees for shit people want to see. If this makes god hand get ported to pc good.
>>728566141They don't commission ports, retard. Capcom isn't going to port a PS2 game nobody played because Good Obedient Goys beg for it.
>>728542707I download them anyways
>>728566231They will if I bitch about it enough and get a 2.1 million views video.
>Wow that's a lot of bullshit games I don't give a fuck about>Digimon WorldI'm IN
>>728535715Seeing shit like this really makes me lose faith in the platform. There are constant mentions of how they barely make a profit so it's really not reassuring for the store's future. Sure you can download the installers and back them up but there are always unexpected circumstances. If I'm already buying digital products I'd rather buy from a place that is more likely to exist in 50 years.
>>728566602Steam is going under in 2 more weeks.
>>728566602GOG is just fucking terrible with money for some reason. Idk why such a basic store is somehow hemorrhaging money to such a degree.
>>728566826
>>728541960>Galaxy is a shit clientMost of the reason I'm willing to buy from GOG is that it doesn't require a client.
>>728565829I use Steam for longer than you have been alive. You simply don't know what that feature does.Even if you back up the files, you don't own the copy, and you won't be able to legally play the game unless Steam allows you to. If some other guy takes over Steam and decides to revoke your license to Sekiro, no matter how many times you backed it up, you won't be able to play it, because it's not yours.
>>728551275Do you think they only make a profit on GOG and not when selling it in other stores?Retard
>>728538685Retro achievements is something I see as a somewhat necessary evil. I don't give a fuck about cheevos myself, but if adding them gets people to start playing games and not use save states, then I'm all for it.
>should make our storefront serve betterm?>nah just beg and squeeze our whales for mroe money lmaoIncompetent retards
>>728556216Whose talking about that? I'm talking about Streets of Rage 4 GoG not having ONLINE PLAY while SoR4 Steam *DOES*.Why the *FUCK* would I buy the GoG version if it can't even meet the bare minimum bar that the Steam version sets?>B-b-but it's DEE ARRR EMMM FR--I can pirate the GoG version then. Thanks? Still a worse version.
>>728535715GOG has become extremely worthless and embarrassing. Fuck this dumb company, you had one job and it was to fix and sell all the old 90's and 00's PC games that are still trapped in piracy and modern OS compatibility hell. They choose instead to try and compete with Steam on new releases without any of the built in benefits and QOL features of Steam. Worthless and redundant.
>>728568862hi rasheedhow much does steam pay you to shill for them?
>>728557197Remember people being excited for Capcom's re-releases for classic Biohazard and they WEREN'T EVEN THE FUCKING SOURCENEXT VERSIONS!?>Oh but you can convert them an--If I have to do that work, why the FUCK would I buy the GoG version?Like the only Capcom release from GoG to be applauded is the Dino Crisis 2 port, and that's because (IIRC) it NEVER had a PC version before GoG did the work to port it.
>>728552113> Does GOG have good Linux support?I recently bought E33 from GOG and cutscenes were broken on steam deck. I assume if I just bought from Steam directly, I wouldn't have this issue.Besides that, half of my library is on GOG. It works well on steam deck most of the times
>>728535715But the thing is, if GOG ever shuts down or gets sold off to a competitor, you still have your games DRM-free forever. I mean... you do keep offline backups of your DRM-free games, right?
this consolewar tier faggotry over PC game stores is so fucking forced and retarded.
>>728536495This is corpo-speak.>We're not doing so badly that we need you to throw money at us no questions asked for free. :)They're doing bad. They've been doing bad ever since they switched from Good OLD Games to just being "GoG" and releasing (worse than Steam) new releases that already had Steam versions day-one like a year later.This is a last gasp. GoG hasn't been doing too well all it's life and I'm sure CDP is feeling the heat after Cyberpunk's fuck up and refunds (and having to retrain their entire staff in UE instead of their internal engine/REDengine).Like, they threw in the towel on Gwent right as it was getting it's mojo and figured out a GOOD monetization point (LCG model, not a TCG model) a month before because they couldn't get players back when the damage three years earlier was done.
>>728559920iGoGnies: BTFO
>>728536649READ THE SITE NIGGER IT'S LITERALLY EXPLAINED WHAT THEY DO WITH THE MONEY.Jesus fucking christ, are zoomies really that illiterate?
>>728535715https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/1pn5int/gog_is_launching_gog_patrons_an_optional_way_to/Donating to corporations. What a time to be alive!
why does everyone suddenly hate GoG? is this the right board...?
>>728570389Going into 2026 with new dystopic features in full swing
>steammies pay over $2000 every year for games they will never play >nobody cares>goggers pay $5 a month to support game preservation>everyone loses their minds
>>728570913Shitposters want a new console war so they falseflag as obnoxious GoG fanboys and make the most retarded posts about Steam imaginable.
>>728538483LOL what, yeah have fun buying Nintendo’s stuff or that obscure PS2 Jrpg on Steam or GOG
Remember remember
>>728571080if steam did the same thing there would be 10 threads up on the 'log for the week.
>>728570913Because they aren't even remotely trying to fulfill their promises or fill the niche they claim to. They are just trying to be Steam competitor and they don't compete at all. Their launcher is also broken dogshit that crashes nearly 100% of the time when you launch a game. And now instead of putting in the work to improve anything they are just begging for handouts and acting like they are a charity that needs money to make a difference when all they are is a digital game store. What a complete joke, and disgusting behavior.>>728571080>Pay money on Steam>Get the product you paid for>Pay money on GOG>Get nothing, it was just a charitable donation to le poor starving corporation ;^)
>>728569594That is right but i'd rather GOG prospers since that means more DRM free games in the future. I am never going to go back to Steam so i want to support GOG any way i can. Some people want to support GOG by buying videogames from the GOG store and other want to support GOG trough other means.
>>728571246I sincerely hope nobody who took that survey agreed with this insane cringe
>>728535715>GOG is doing so badNot according to them.
Guys plz donate we are a small company from Poland. :)
>>728572047Obvious lies.
When you really think about it pc fags are the reason gaming as a whole is ass these days.
>>728572047>>728572091Ok, cool. Then they don't need my donations and should stop asking.
>>728535715i don't buy many games but if they are on gog i always buy thereso their problems are probably because the people who are old don't spend a lot anymore
>>728572390Why should they stop asking? You can just not support them.
>>728572047you know it's grim when they know exactly what people are thinking and know what this subscription thing implies
>>728536724this, i have almost 600 steam games yet i have not spent a dime on gog kek
>>728571862>more DRM free games in the futureI don't get this line of logic. GoG doesn't dictate if a game has DRM, the publishers/devs do. GoG holds no leverage in this matter and most publishers just don't give a fuck since PC was deemed the piracy platform several decades ago.
>>728536113>people want playtime and achievements in one placeWhy?
>>728572474Because they don't need the money and it's disrespectful and evil to act like a charity or non-profit that helps people when they aren't. In fact, this should genuinely be illegal.
>still no Freelancer on the store
>>728572454There is also the problem with people getting poorer with time and especially now with Trump's trade wars everything in the USA is getting more and more expensive. It is hard to buy videogames when you are paying 12 dollardildos for eggs(in know that in some states the price never when this far so fuck off).
>>728570389I'm not surprised coming from the gog subreddit
>>728572859>still no AvP 2>still no MechWarrior or MechCommander series>still no Black and White 1 and 2>still no Battle for Middle Earth 1 and 2>still no Battlefield 1952, Vietnam, 2, or 2142>still no No One Lives ForeverThey have failed at their one job for too long as far as I'm concerned.
>>728572623>I don't get this line of logic.That is because you're not thinking things trough. The bigger GOG is the more DRM fee games they will get. Look at all the new DRM free games they've gotten. >Baldur's Gate 3 DRM free on GOG>Rogue Trader DRM free on GOG>Jagged Alliance 3 DRM free on GOG>FrostPunk 2 DRM free on GOG>ELEX DRM free on GOG>etc.This is why the bigged GOG gets the better.
>>728573071You're baiting or retarded.
>>728570389Ah yes, yearly subscriptions are exactly what I think of when I think "DRM free"
>>728573149But GoG will never get bigger because they have no leverage. >don't allow games with DRM>no position to demand this from publishers>publishers have no financial incentive to cater to this demand>the demand itself is absurd from the perspective of the publisher>GoG has to behave like a beggar and fight for any scraps of games it can find that will accept selling without DRMEven if all of Steam's userbase got up and moved to GoG publishers wouldn't give a fuck because they still see PC as secondary to the console market. And the reason they all jumped to console in the first place is because of PC piracy.
>>728573658The only reason that Steam is ahead is because of ignorance. The smarter a person is the more likely they are to use GOG. So there is still hope that Steam will die out.
>>728574442lmaoInsanely delusional post
>>728574442>if only people all shared my same standards that I only have as an extreme hobbyist of videogames, then GOG would be thriving!GoG and Linuxfags seem to share the same delusion that convenience is secondary to their own standards of whatever the fuck the average person doesn't care about. Then they wonder why pretty much nobody uses those services.
>>728565589Cyberpunk setting itself has diversity as part of the reason for it being dystopic, literally can't go wrong with that one and DEI. The upcoming Bitcher game will likely tell just how many farts they huffed.>>728548826See>>728554626It's dead weight. They fix the game which is very nice. Honestly I'm surprised that they haven't gotten sued yet since a few times they just included the community patch into a release. Considering how the mod community of basing everything nowadays is autistic trannies that are more than happy to wage internet drama wars, maybe another part of GoG's finances is lawyer battles with trannies.
>>728574442The only way Steam is dying is if Gabe suddenly dies and its new owners go full retard and run the service into the ground.Or PC gaming literally dies because Sam Altman decreed so.
>a major company that previously took ESG money and has released several games that sold millions of copies each has a patreonThe final step of capitalism is Walmart begging you for donations.
>>728542173Publishers do not want you to be able to do that. I'm not joking.
>>728573658They don't need to make demands. They just need to sell publishers on the idea that after several years have passed, they stand to make more money by removing DRM and selling to ownership enthusiasts than they stand to lose to piracy.
why dont they ad some fucking ad banner on the right of the site or whatever
>>728575568>he thinks this is about moneyLol
>>728575568...then GoG gets a couple thousand sales tops years after people already bought those games elsewhere
>>728575650You'd rather see ads for car insurance and boner pills than a donation request that funds game preservation?
>>728569630You can thank Tim Sweeney for that
>>728535715This is just like the Wikipedia donations shit. Both GoG and Wikipedia are earning enough and are not in danger, asking for donations and acting like the site's going to die otherwise is fucking scummy.
>>728576257GOG is a storefront first and foremost though
>>728576290non-sequitur?
>>728576326Wikipedia IS wikipediaGet what I mean?GOG is running a digital storefront that takes 30% cut from game sales and you're telling me that isn't enough to fund their preservation efforts? They're almost as old as Steam at this point
>>728541960>No games because publishers don't want to sell on a store that won't allow them to use DRMIt's amazing to me that people don't think this is the case, when companies have repeatedly crippled their own products out of fear of piracy through shit like Denuvo, mini-discs, proprietary formats, etc.
>>728576257>acting like the site's going to dieThey're not though. See >>728572047. They're quite open about not "needing" the money to simply continue operating. They want to use it to expand their features and presevation initiatives.
>>728576614Still scummy
>>728576614What's stopping them from "expanding their features" with the income they already have?
>>728543468>innovative>diversity>equity>inclusiondamn, a lot of buzzwords
the collective IQ of everyone in this thread is about 23 minus
>>728576495Unlike Steam GOG is not laundering money.
>>728536818>>728541125based 80 iq tardsbtw wanna buy my nfts they will be worth big money one day?
>>728546191how does that boot taste?
>>728543468so foids get a few vacation days every single month?what do men get?
>>728580373A few extra days of peace and quiet in the office.
>>728580764sadly they dont all take it out at the same time
>>728580764so normal 'work' day for them cool
>>728536241It's the reason you can pirate so many games
>>728557197steam doesnt even do thathow is this fucking legalI know the post wasnt about that but seriouslywhat the fuck
>>728537778I think Devotion's the only one but Pooh got that game delisted fucking everywhere.
>>728565829Great, now back that up and go and run the game on a device that doesn't have steam installed, retard.
>>728536079Steamies only buy shit from gaben's asshole.They will throw fucking tantrums if they can't buy a game from steam. Until they are killed off valve will always have a stranglehold.
>>728552907>On Steam, I can.You can share your licenses with other accounts, sure, but you can't play those games at the same time. Nobody in your family actually can take ownership of any of your games though, and if you want to be a pedantic autist about TOS statements, Steam doesn't allow you to transfer your account to anyone. GOG purchases allow you to just backup the installer onto a thumbdrive and install them without any connection or 3rd party platform confirming an account.
>>728536079>indie devs: I made this indie game, I'm open to selling it on GOG too, can I do that?>GOG: Uhm, no :^)>indie devs: ok I'll sell it on Steam and itch.io then>GOG: AIIIIEEEEEE WHY IS NOBODY BUYING GAMES FROM US
>>728579852Worse, it's funding the Polish economy.
>>728576495Wikipedia is a front for Wikimedia which hosts the largest custom Wiki sites on the Internet for massive profit. Off donations alone Wikipedia makes 3x its operating costs a year, if you donate to Wikipedia you would be better off donating to your tax man because atleast that money stays in your country.
>>728583560>GOG: Uhm, no :^)so when did this happen?
>>728558341Because gog is 80% old shit that I already own, and downloading fan patches to make those old copies work doesn't bother me. That leaves their only avenues of revenue being people who are nostalgic and new gamers who want to try old games. The latter I assume happening rarely and the former is not a infinite market. Now if they opened it to indie Devs like itch or even allowed medium sized games onto the platform I would use it much more.
>>728585212Devs who tried getting their games published have been complaining about it. GOG just says they want to """""curate""""" their catalog and rejects people's games.I also read GOG started receiving some kind of government fund for preservation so they don't really give a shit about new games, but I'm not sure how that works.When you're a dev, nothing guarantees you can publish your game on GOG. So why even bother at that point when itch and steam just work?
>>728585818uh huhso where's the example
>>728535715I feel sympathy for these guys, but how can I justify helping GOG instead of a health organization or orphanage or something like that?
>>728536258>more profitable than Steam.Zero chance
>>728536258I was watching a documentary about Netflix, and they were having difficulties in the beginning and decided to lay off 75% of their employees. To their surprise, productivity increased after the mass layoff because the people who stayed were the ones who really worked, and now there weren't so many useless people getting in the way.
>>728535715do people actually buy games from GOG instead of steam?Why? lots of games on steam don't use any DRM
>>728573071>Nightdive comes in and resells you each game at $40, with some changes that are not optional on top
>>728586958BarelyFor exampke that banned game HORSES was literally the top selling game on GOG for a few days and it barely sold 10k units
>>728543468this is fake right?
Yeah, now I have a badge. But I didn't join their Discord because I don't give a shit.
>>728586958>Why? lots of games on steam don't use any DRMMany games that don't have "DRM" still require Steam to be open.
>You own your games! you buy, you keep them!>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH WHY NOBODY IS BUYING OR GAMES, THEY ARE PIRATING THEM! WE'RE GOING TO BANKRUPT SOON!Steam may be the bad guys, but you have to be bad to make a living in this world.
>>728536948Steam should just buy GOG desu
Why don't they just make a gog launcher like steam with forums and profile customization and anime avatars and cheevos?
>>728587745Steam's DRM is basically null and void as well. You can drop a 1400KB .dll file into the game folder, double click on the .exe, and that's it.Steam itself recommends that softhouses use DRM because theirs only performs the most basic verification possible of the user's Steam account, which can be easily circumvented, even by legal means (such as the Goldberg emulator).People buy on Steam because it was the first store and it was there that people began to build their online persona, with their achievements, guides, mods, and most importantly, game library. No one is going to abandon their stuff there unless a new store emerges and completely revolutionizes the way we consume and play digital games.
>>728587734is that really a big deal? and are these games even on GOG?
>>728536951Everyone who's ever pirated knows they're full of shit lmao. I literally just bought E33 from gog downloaded it and immediately refunded it because I felt like saving a few bucks.
>>728589153based"moral" pirates are all gigantic faggots and tranniesI pirate because its free, thats it
>>728565546Wasn't RE3 available on steam before the remake launched???
>>728536495>we intend to make games live forever>delists all the unreal games, theres currently no actual place to purchase unreal legally at all
>>728588436>is that really a big deal?Sure is for my older machine that I dual-boot WinXP/Win7 on for older titles, which Steam doesn't run on.
>>728587921actually cant afford it. tim sweeney makes more money selling skins on fortnite then all of steam makes selling games. no really. fortnites revenue is like, 7.5 billion dollars of epic games 7.6 billion revenue, and fortnite is literally free to play, while steam and gabe is like, 6 billion or something.its fucking crazy. people bitch about valve making money off lootboxes and taking slices of people sales, but sweeney makes MORE selling skins to children
>>728593297>fortnites revenue is like, 7.5 billion dollars of epic games 7.6 billion revenueextremely based
>god games got taken down for goodPress F
>>728536079It's not actually a very good service.
>>728536495They are actually fucked aren't they?
