I got to Ice Belt. I don't want to see anyone criticizing the level design of this game anymore. This is like two Chozo Ruins stacked on top of one another. Because it's not the first area you go to neither, it's free to be confusing and challenging and oppressing in ways the areas of the other games are not. This is literally the best location in all four Prime games easily.
>>728574006Neat opinion.Post the Ice Belt map screen.
>>728574006Cool. Now post your thoughts on the next two areas, because Ice Belt is the last good part of the game
>>728574006its a tunnel with a morphball section that takes you back. what do you mean its free to be confusing and challenging? you can't get lost in a hallway and theres no enemies until the way back.Its the same thing that volt forge did, in the same game. you go through shut down facility, hit the power, and fight your way out. Every psychic key you need is basically within arms reach, its as simple as it gets.I cant stand you disingenuous shills
>>728574006Man I really hate the switch 2 case. It's so ugly
>>728574380LMAO
>>728574520>>728574380only showing one floor of three in that area retard
>>728574629>two more straight lines
>>728574380What’s up with Nintendo and straight lines this gen?
>>728574916>What’s up with Nintendo and straight lines this gen?They think their audience is literally retarded and will quit playing the game as soon as they encounter confusion or difficulty of any kind
>>728574006The part where everything starts melting looked so good it's insane.
>>728574062Can't fit it all on screen, dipshit.
>>728574380Now lets see Paul Allen's frigate, phazon mines, and magmoor caverns. Hell, show phendrana drifts if you think it's so good.
>>728575810Three screenshots then, retard
>>728575893>Same tired argument from the mazed 'tendiesIndividual maps in Metroid Prime 1 can be somewhat linear because every area is interconnected at multiple placesPrime 4 has stand-alone Zelda dungeons with a time-wasting empty desert connecting them
>>728576145>Individual maps in Metroid Prime 1 can be somewhat linearorly, can they, is that so,
dark souls already proved 14 years ago that people can handle tough games and getting lost, why is prime 4 so linear and with kirby tier baby difficulty
>>728574380Even with the NPC sidekicks and annoying self-sacrifice cutscenes in the mines, this easily is a tier below the other areas in the game. It's just a linear action set-piece slog, whereas the mines has the nice idea to limit your use of missiles and include enemies that produce noise if aggravated, which adds to the tension and atmosphere. Legitimately would be up there with Ice Belt without the Feddies, but alas, we don't live in that world.
>>728579165Dark Souls fucking sucks though, it practically ruined video games. Why the fuck is there input delay be design? holy shit.
Ice Belt was kino.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be2OmNizzZw
>>728579848>whereas the mines has the nice idea to limit your use of missiles and include enemies that produce noise if aggravatedthis was actually interesting and would have been cool if grievers weren't so lame
>>728577342MP1 is fairly linear in terms of necessary progression, but the overworld is interconnected in interesting ways such that the linear path forward frequently has the player intersecting with and backtracking through familiar areas, grabbing pickups and making small detours along the way.Boost Ball, Spider Ball, Ice Beam, Gravity Suit, Power Bomb, Grapple Beam, and X-Ray Visor are all dead ends and force the player to backtrack to different levels entirely to progress (I could be forgetting a couple). The shitty hint system streamlines the backtracking for players who appreciate that kind of thing (I wish it was off by default), but it's still requires the player to engage with the interconnected overworld and remember areas worth returning to later.I wouldn't say it's perfect, but there's an intentionality to the design I can appreciate, and it's still a lot of fun to replay. Thanks for reading my blog.
>>728574006lol, it's the first and last good part of the game. After that it falls of a cliff.
>>728576145>It's fine because-So your solution to Prime 4 was replacing the desert with elevators? Ok
>>728574006Really? I felt like the level design there was super straightforward. It's a linear trek downward outside of that one tiny area where you open like 4 doors to scan/pull things and another where you have 2 doors to scan a couple more things but you never truly branch off into a really far off path that wraps around or anything. When you get to the bottom you go back up also in a linear area but via the morph balls sections that were previously closed off. It's one of the better areas I'll agree (though I wish it leaned into a more horror-vibe) and it was really cool seeing it melt but the level design was still rather lacking.
>>728579893>Why the fuck is there input delay be design?least third world dark souls hater
>>728579893Realism for weight of swinging a huge weapon, or throwing yourself into a roll. Let's see you do it with out a second of preparation.
>>728581617>Power Bomb, Grapple BeamSmall correction, these two should be merged since they chain into each other in the Phazon Mines. And I forgot Plasma Beam after Grapple Beam.
>>728580282They're not terrible as a basic enemy type, but they should've gotten a lot more freaky and mutated as the game went on if they wanted to sell the horror undertones.
>>728574380>pay more to make everything shittier
>>728581617I on the other hand thought the backtracking was too much. Back tracking to find new areas and power ups are a staple of the series and is fun when done in moderation, but MP1 did it WAY too much to point I got fucking sick and tired of every area and don't want to play the game again. I will say MP1 handled upgrades and bosses better than 4, especially seeing armor changes in the upgrades.TLDR;>1too much backtracking>4not enough backtracking and not visually showing/good flow of upgrades.
>>728581617>the overworld is interconnected in interesting waysit isn't. magmoor connects the areas of the game, phendra drifts is isolated. sol valley is far more interesting, it just needed more done with it so it could feel dense.
>>728581802>It's a linear trek downwardYou loop around and around as you go down, it's very interesting. Especially as another anon pointed out, the place begins to thaw out and change.
>>728581920cancelling a weapon swing to roll would be an objective improvement. even by realism standpoint; you can swing into a roll in real life.
>>728582829I was expecting the whole area to be clear of ice by the time you were done.
>>728582561>but MP1 did it WAY too muchthis, my first criticism of Prime 4 cropped up immediately reminding me of what I hate about Prime 1. Why do I have to go back to Mackenzie to get the beam type. It straight up parallels times in Prime 1 where I got boost ball and had to go all the way to talon overworld to get space jump and then all the way back to phendrana drifts to continue. same poor design choice in both games.
Ya know, now that I think about it. Since Prime Samus uses the grapple beam with her left hand. Why dont more boss fights have you swinging around and shooting, since her arm cannon is free?
>>728583192You can't shoot while swinging, but during the Sylux fight you can cling to walls and shoot. It's the optimal strategy for the boss fight.
>>728583558I swear you could swing and shoot in 2 and 3. But I dont think it's used for a boss fight.
>>728581706Remind me what was good about it. Definitely not the "where's waldo just scan everything" part or the one where you're walking over the chains. Definitely not the boss fight which I've already forgotten. Especially not that part at the end where all those morph ball tunnels that were previously offline conveniently open for you so you can go back without having to think about anything.
>>728574006Super > AM2R = Fusion > Prime 2 > Prime 4 = Prime 1 > Metroid 1 > Prime Hunters > Dread > Prime 3 > Samus Returns > Prime Pinball = Zero Mission > Federation Force > Metroid 2 = Other M
>>728582561>too much backtrackingI tend to agree. The progression feels a little too bogged down after getting Power Bomb and hitting the dead end in Phazon Mines (you need Grapple Beam, Plasma Beam, and X-Ray Visor to progress here).Also, even if you collect the Chozo artifacts optimally along the way, I still despise getting the artifact that requires the Phazon Suit to collect deep in the mines, because you have to backtrack through Fission Metroids.But this is why Echoes is the better game (I forgive it for the key hunt).>>728582736Talon Overworld has a lot of elevators and is utilized quite a bit during the more non-linear backtracking segments. I don't have strong feelings about Magmoor, but it is basically just a straight line the forms the backbone of the overworld (meh). Chozo Ruins and Phendrana are fairly self-contained, but they both have moments later in the progression where you return and explore new areas.
>>728584519>they both have moments later in the progression where you return and explore new areasthat's all I really want out of Prime 4 that I didn't get. I feel like Fury Green and Flare Pool just needed another half for a later return
>>728574006Enjoy the ice zone because the next 2 are back to back glorified shooting galleries.
Best 3D Metroid by far. Fuck the critics and schizos, I liked all of the marines. Only complaint about them is fucking Armstrong singing badly at base camp.
>>728574006The game starts at an 8.8 and ends at a 7.5
>>728587375based, you missed some items and scans though
>>728587730Yep, going for 100% on hard mode.
>>728587375I could understand someone liking Prime 4, even though I heavily disagree. But you have to have brain damage to think this is the best 3d Metroid.
>>728588120nah, I've played Prime 1 until the fetch quest. The combat is simon says and actually backtracking through the "world" (a fucking clusterfuck) is painful, especially Magmoor Caverns. I'd take the desert any day over the artifact fetch quest. Prime 3 was so bad I quit in the acid rain level, never played 2. I'd rate Prime 1 8/10 and Prime 4 9/10. It's been so long since I played Prime 3, and I hated the city in the sky aesthetic.. So it's not proper to rate it.
I forgot to scan the ice belts boss, does it show up again or is my playthrough ruined?
>>728588352so brain damage it is, then
>>728588120It's between Prime 4 and Prime 2 if we're being honest.
>>728574006I fucking hate Retro Studios for Metroid Prime 3 then MeTROON Prime 4HRT. Zero faith, washed up studio.
>>728588352>I'd take the desert any day over the artifact fetch quest.This. I cannot understand the criticism of green crystals at all. I smash them while hitting up shrines and heading to the next area for progress. I turn them in when I go to Myles for a beam upgrade, I unlock some upgrade on top of it. This is easily better than the artifact hunt in Prime 1.
>>728588643Think you're screwed.It's weird that the game has like a boss gallery after you defeat them. I thought that would've been the scan backup.
>>728588657(you)>>728588795Yeah man the first time I got an upgrade (the beam upgrade I think) I got a herion tier shot of seratonin. I'm glad the game actively rewarded collecting them. The psychic shield thing is "too little too late" by that point in the game but still cool as hell. But who knows I might need it for Sylux on hard mode.
>>728574380This image caused Metroid Prime 1 haters to cry about it. Notice how many Prime 2 hating troons didn't play Metroid Prime 2 (the hardest), only here to glaze Prime 4. Nintendo marketing team here lol. Still not buying Troon 4HRT.
>>728587375Armstrong can do whatever she wants
>>728589103ok, NDS thread is elsewhere
>>728575893I keked. Take the (you). :)
>>728588795It seems like some of the reviewers made the assumption that they were some optional secondary objective despite the game never suggesting that and then had to catch up at the end of the game which made them all pissyTheir fault for trying to rush through to the end of the game with out actually engaging it's content so they can shit out a half baked review
>>728590070>they accidentally made them as bad as artifact huntpretty funny
>>728587375>I liked the marines>I like cutscenes and fetch quests and cinematic dialogueThen you'd love Uncharted and God of War and TLOU. Why don't you go back to playing those?
>>728574006I like ice belt. It makes it clear that the dev team would have preferred to make an action/adventure game rather than a metroidvania.I think they would have made a pretty coll game if they weren't weighed down by expectations. Wouldn't have been a "real" metroid game, but i think they wanted to make a linear game and it shows.
There's a lot I don't like about Prime 4 but the music isn't one of them. God damn that shit is good.
>>728582910its not going for realism its going for commitment
>>728591042(you)
>>728590070"Engaging with" shitty "content" like smashing into crystals for 2 hours isn't fun.
>>728594083There are green crystals in the shrines as well as the ones on the overworld. Anyone playing the game properly instead of only traveling from objective to objective in straight lines while ignoring everything around them would easily have enough to finish the gameThe fact some of these reviewers like shill up missed this shit just goes how cynically they approach new games and how little their reviews and opinions are actually worth
>>728581920>it's realistic so it's more funYour kind killed video games.
>>728574006I think once the outrage culture ends people will be kinder to this game with time. It's still not as good as Prime 1 or 2 but it's definitely better than 3.
>>728574006>I don't want to see anyone criticizing the level design of this game anymore. This is like two Chozo Ruins stacked on top of one another.It's literally a straight fucking line, what the fuck are you talking about?
>>728595379You're still not explaining why the green crystals are so absolutely necessary for the game to function? Couldn't they just.... NOT include them?
>>728595652They even could have made them an artifact hunt like Prime 1 where there are only like 12 crystals total. Farming them on the bike is just the most baffling game design decision ever.
>>728588795and then there's me, who didn't even realize you get upgrades for submitting green crystals until after I got Thunder Shot.
I just got to Ice Belt. How many hours do I have left with this shit?
>>728595750Too many and the entire game gets infinitely worse after Ice Belt.
>>728587375What was good about it?
>>728595750it's a 12 hour game, 14 to 100%
I beat the game last Friday and I dunno how to feel in hindsight.Pros:>looks fantastic>sounds great>the Volt Forge and Ice Path are fantastic environments that speak a lot to the lore and mechanics of the world and race the story's trying to build>most of the bosses are pretty good, are memorable in some way or another>Psychic Abilities shine brightest in the form of the Spider Ball with the tether fields>mouse controls are excellent>Vi-O-La provides nice gameplay varietyCons:>backtracking for beam weapons kinda sucks>the constant "Hey did you check your map" ruins the flow>Armstrong>Flare Pool sucks as a level cause it's a big escort mission>the overworld driving gets old fast>not a lot of bosses to write about if we don't count the Brute Griever and fire crab>final boss phase 1 sucks>ending feels really abrupt and predictable>a lot of lore and plot points get dropped or not expanded upon, unless it's sequwl bait>Metroids?I dunno how I'll feel in a few weeks, but for now I'm sitting at 2 > 3 > 4 > 1, with the asterisk that I think they're all very great games, but that entire shitty Chozo Artifacts hunt actively hurts the goodwill from Thardus and Meta Ridley.
>>728595619Outrage culture is when criticizing Nintendo games
>>728596953>>looks fantasticMaybe play any other game from time to time thats not tendie garbage
>>728574380HAHAHAHA
>>728597010I do, most of them that tout good graphics and visuals do so at the expense of color and a visual filter that makes everything look dull, muddy, and brown, but I'm sure you'd know a lot about muddy and brown, wouldn't you, Harjit?
>>728574380I dont know what the big deal with this is. This was jsut like in prime 1. Theres only 1 way to get to phendrana drifts and thats through magmoor caverns. theres only 1 way to get to the mines as well
>>728589173cute
>>728595379There's barely anything to do in the desert. No shit people are gonna make a beeline to the next destination where things actually happen.You must be very low IQ if you actually enjoyed "exploring" before going to the next biome.
>>728596953> 2 > 3 > 4 >1the fuck is this ranking
>>728597235Are you an idiot?
>>728597716nope
>>728595978The graphics / presentation, traversing the overworld without the need for an out-of-game picture for the elevator placements during a shitty fetch quest that goes through goddamn magmoor caverns (Prime 1 overworld). The OST is incredible, and that moment where the music turns into distorted sounds in Ice Belt when you broke the glass on the pod was kino. The combat actually feels satisfying and missiles have a knockback mechanic on the crawling robots. It isn't as much of "simon says use the purple beam" with the coloured space pirates in Prime 1. I actually got quite attached to the marines, and it was a really melancholy ending in that sense. I'm hoping for a direct sequel where we might learn their ultimate fate. I didn't mind the last two dungeons at all and had a good time in them, though they weren't quite as good as Volt Forge and Ice Belt. In Prime 3, I absolutely hated the city in the sky for its absolute lack of colour. There wasn't a single dungeon in Prime 4 that I thought "I'd rather not be here right now". Samus risking her life to save Armstrong and Duke was great. I'm not a game reviewer but those are just some of the highlights and comparisons I can think of.
>>728597732My mistake. You really came off as one with that idiotic question.
>>728597792excellent job not answering the question, champ
I quit when I was an hour in and the game forced my map open, and asked if I needed to repeat instructions an npc gave me even though the level design is linear as shit.
>>728574006Shit game for shit taste tendies
>>728597828There's no point in answering the question of someone who looks at those two maps and doesn't see a difference.
>>728597902another post not answering the question
>>728597928goodbye
>>728597742>oops! it was contempt for the past all along!
>>728597979thats right bitch, run away with your tail between your legs
>>728598018what are you talking about
>>728597742>traversing the overworld without the need for an out-of-game picture for the elevator placementsMeaning, navigation which is a central mechanic of Metroid confuses and enrages you.>magmoor caverns (Prime 1 overworld)Even if this were true, Magmoor has actual gameplay in it unlike the desert.>It isn't as much of "simon says use the purple beam" with the coloured space pirates in Prime 1That's because there are only three common enemy types in the entire game and the ice shot is the answer to all of them.>I actually got quite attached to the marinesMeaning, you're a golem who should be playing Halo and God of Soi.>I didn't mind the last two dungeons at all and had a good time in themAnd this right here is the proof. Flare Pool and the mines are both cutscene corridors where you spend more time watching cutscenes and waiting on NPCs to open shit for you than doing anything else. You enjoyed that? Really? All you've said in this post is that you hate Metroid Prime. And anyone is supposed to think your opinion is valuable? Go play snoy moviegame shit where you fucking belong.
>>728597510 Dunno, maybe because the desert actually had some atmosphere and worldbuilding instead of holding your hand through another cookie-cutter “biome transition”? Just admit you speedran like every other zoomer who thinks walking off the path is wasted time. The low IQ move is pretending a giant open world exists just to funnel you forward like it’s an Ubisoft checklist map.
>>728598082(you) ragebaiter
>>728598190>the desert actually had some atmosphere and worldbuilding>>728598262How about I timestamp my Switch 2 and you can go fuck yourself and return to the snoy movieshit you love?
>>728598190I didn't because I knew the crystals were required. I got the shrines and spent time collecting green bullshit before going to the next area.No, it wasn't fun and I get why a lot of people would just not bother and rather go straight to the next biome.
>>728598190>Dunno, maybe because the desert actually had some atmosphere
>>728598286>snoy movieshitBut enough about Prime 4.
>>728597235it's also super zoomed out and the elevator icons are covering all the rooms, also a bunch of the areas are destroyed like everything above the flare pool.>>728574006it's the best area in this game but it's not THAT good. Being the only place with any actual lore also makes it the most interesting.>>728595619>>728596953it wasn't bad and I felt combat in particular was better than any other prime game just because they designed this one for 2 sticks first, they got to make most of the bosses fun. it just doesn't scratch the itch of exploring a metroid world.
>>728598286I don't care that you own a system. I've never owned a playstation but you can have whatever deranged, deluded NDS head canon you want.
>>728582829I actually have no idea what you're talking about. You just keep walking straight as you go down with a couple intermissions for keys you get from scamming, there isn't much interesting going on. Compare it to the main big room of Chozo Ruins alone where there is actual platforming going on and a bridge alongside a couple collectibles (like the Boost Ball one for the Missile Expansion, or the tree you use Super Missles on, or the Energy Tank from another path or the Missile Expansion from the Grapple Beam). That's just one room and it has so much to it. The Ice Belt is cool aesthetically speaking and has so much potential but it needed more to it beyond scouting a few rooms for scans and to yank things just to keep going down more downward hallways. The coolest part was probably just bombing the areas to shoot yourself up but it's only for like 1 room and it's just a repeat of what the prior games did there too.
>>728598348Yes, Prime 4 is snoy movieshit which is why that anon loves it.>>728598362So I bought a Switch and a Switch 2 and MP4 because I have NDS? That's what you're going with to avoid addressing anything I actually said?
>>728598431You said nothing of value there's nothing to respond to. Move on
>>728582829>it's not linear because the line is curved
>>728598486>LALALALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOUUUUUThat's what I thought, bitch. You can't defend anything you believe because you don't even know why you believe it. You're another snoy moviegame golem.
People playing the good part of the game and shitting on people are for not liking it are braindead. Try beating the game first, bro. The game goes straight off a cliff in the last 3rd
>>728597510I'm not even talking about exploringI'm talking about moving towards an objective, seeing a green crystal slightly out of your way and swerving to run it over instead of just ignoring itI know none of you faggots criticizing it have actually played the game but collecting the green crystals is not some big thing you have to dedicate time and energy to which is why people being so hung up on this is so bizarre.
>>728598554I get it, you hate jews and the whole world. You whiny little prissy bitch. Go do something you like for once.
>>728598570The Ice Belt isn't even *that* good. It's probably the best area but that's not saying much in my opinion.
>>728598649You gonna cry, little goylem? Cry for me on your way back to the snoy movieshit.
>>728574006Volt Forge >= Ice Belt > Great Mines > Fury Green >>> Flare Pool >>>>>> Sol Valley
>>728598632I'm done giving you (yous)you're either a troll or a complete moron
>>728598657This is exactly how I feel about it, it's the best from what I've played, I didn't dislike it, but it's nothing amazing either.
This thread is fucking terrible. It actually saddens me that this is what Metroid discourse has become.
>>728598702projection, you lack parents.
>>728598830Very ironic post here.
>>728598845sure buddy.
>>728598916You notice how you instantly collapsed the moment I pushed back against your bullshit and outed you as someone who fundamentally hates Metroid Prime which is the reason you love MP4?That's because you're a golem who doesn't actually believe anything.
>>728584495>SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS+ tierPrime, Super, Dread>S tierPrime 2, Zero Mission, AM2R>A tierFusion, Prime 3>B tierSR, Prime Pinball, Hunters, Prime 4, Metroid>C tierReturn of Samus>D tierFederation Force>What the fuck was Sakamoto smoking tierOther M>>728598801Metroid posters are doing whatever. But one /v/ non-gamer schizo latched on the game and is reposting his choice webms while talking to himself.Prime 4 escaped dev hell and is scarred as shit, desert is shit, sylux is still ludo, nothing fucking happens in the game, its feat is escaping dev hell as a 70 game and not some duke nuke forever abomination. there's not much to talk
>>728574006>metroid prime 4>Doesn't really have any metroids in it at allThe series sort of shot themselves in the foot by making the very second game about extincting the metroids, so now it has to be an ass-pull to bring them back every time.Also, no fucking Ridley? Get fucked!
>>728599012(you). I love Prime 1 until the artifact fetch quest when I was forced to traverse those shitty elevators.
>>728599061Prime takes place before Metroid 2 so that's not even the reason there are no metroids no, little golem, the metroid weak points on the bosses don't count
I am shocked none one is mentioning how boring the scans were. Creature Biology and the Space Pirate antics were some of my favorite parts of Prime 1-3.
>>728599148Hey retard, you can get all artifacts while you naturally progress through the game. You don't have to wait until the end and go back. And you STILL HAVE THE FUCKING ELEVATORS IN PRIME 4 ANYWAY ON TOP OF THE DESERT SO WHAT ARE YOU EVEN FUCKING BABBLING ABOUT?
kinda weird how this game comes out right when i come up with the idea to make a actual motherbrain out of a gmo blue whale brain. whats even wierder is my name and street address is a cheat code in the original game. It unlocks everything.
>>728599165>Prime takes place before metroid 2What the fuck, lmao.Why is the timeline so fucking retarded? The Prime series makes it feel like Metroids are pretty rare and mostly just bred by the space pirates.
>>728599257Point A to point B travel without a million stops going through places I've already been? Yeah it was great, sign me the fuck up. I love Prime 4. Sorry your favourite game or whatever hasn't aged as well as you would have liked. You sure like to sperg out a lot.
>>728599358Metroids are normally only on SR388 but the pirates brought them from there to Zebes to breed them in the original game. The ones in the Prime series were evacuated from Zebes before Samus could kill them. So they are rare and basically only come from space pirate breeding programs.
>>728599061>Metroid>you kill the metroids early on>Fusion>you nuke the X in their own game>Prime>Prime lasts a very long time for a Metroid antagonist holy shit>Prime Hunters>Gorea eats shit in his own game>Dread>Raven Beak gets introduced as the bigger bad and eats shit in his own debut game>Prime 2>Ing gets nuked in their own game>Prime 4>SYLUX WILL RETURN IN METROID PRIME 5: ELECTRIC BOOGALOOThat's less of a foot shot and more of a trend. Metroid is inspired by space horror movies after all. the catch is that the terrifying monster is the thing you play as. the monster of the week is fodder.
>>728599515I just love Ridley and he should be in every fucking Metroid game.The idea that he's a military leader and politician despite just being a big space dragon who roars and shoots fireballs just cracks me up.>Okay Mister Ridley so what should we do about the economic downturn in the pirate society?>SCHREEEEECHHHHHHH *Eats someone*>That's what you suggested last time!
>>728599391>Point A to point B travel without a million stops going through places I've already been?So again, you fundamentally hate Metroid and Metroid Prime. So why are you larping? Did you just decide it was going to be your identity now?And on top of that, you're still wrong. You're still lying. You know how you get from Ice Belt to Fury Green? You go back through areas you've already been, you ride an elevator to get to another elevator, then you slowly walk out, then you get on your bike, then you ride across empty, silent space you've already covered a dozen times, then you slowly walk to a door that goes into a loading screen which is just to send you to, YEP, another elevator. So again, what the fuck are you babbling about? Are you sure you played Prime 4?
>>728599615your final (you), didn't even read your schizo rant.
>>728599657That's what I thought, bitch. Kill yourself.
MP4 is a buyers remorse for digital fags
>>728599604the space pirates are peak tokusatsu jobbers and I love it. Ridley being a random ass monster in game while offscreen somehow being a giga brained warlord is part of his charm.Too bad that Kraid is a massive jobber.
>>728598801It'll go away. Obviously Prime 4 has very real issues but it's hard to talk about things genuinely right now without people being schizo and saying the series is dead or this is somehow worse than other M
>>728599807>For fuck's sake Ridley just screwed up the foreign policy between the zebesians and the other pirates again>Sure but he's also fucking massive, are you going to say that to his face? He'll just step on you>Yeah but he blew up from Samus just a week ago, how the hell does he keep surviving?>Oh shit here he comes, you better shut the fuck up>SCREEEEECHHHH???>Great job Ridley! You uhm, you get to stay leader, again! Congratulations on the cyborg upgrade!
>>728575213But why would they care about that? As long as someone buys the game, they get money. If that person plays 5 minutes or 500 hours, Nintendo still gets paid. Why intentionally make a bad game?
>>728599061>no fucking Ridley?Too busy eating shit after Phazon aids
>>728579893because dark soul's combat is all about committing to attacks and not being able to cancel out of animations. queued inputs aren't a design flaw when the point is to punish you for misreading an animation, spacing or your own moveset.
>>728574380>Don't forget to hit up the save station before walking down that linear hallway! I'll mark it on your map. It's right behind you. Can't miss it!
>>728598657At least the NPC isn't annoying as fuck. The NPCs after that get more annoying and more annoying until the final area and boss where they never shut the fuck up and keep dying
>>728601527>he's so bad he let them dielol
>>728601445>Oh man, our bacon is surely cooked this time!>Don't forget that if we don't get out in time, we could die!This is truly what Metroid has been missing for the past 39 years
>>728601582There's nothing you can do to stop them from dying in the final boss. They just stand still and get hit. Especially that phase near the end where he blows up segments of the floor with that lightning telegraph, they just stand in it. It's fucking obnoxious.
>>728601310The nigga got blown the fuck up by space-bird lasers and fell into a nuclear hellscape in Prime 1, then he showed up right as rain a week later in Prime 3.Exploding after getting mindfucked by Dark Samus is but a speedbump for him.
>>728601843He still took a break for a game. We'll see him in Prime 5.
>>728601651>This is truly what Metroid has been missing for the past 39 yearsTruly. Here's a mockup of how to fix those old chud Metroid games!
>>728575213>They think their audience is literally retarded and will quit playing the game as soon as they encounter confusion or difficulty of any kindThey're not wrong about that, lol.
>>728601987
>>728601929>His model was erroneously swapped in Prime 3, with Omega Ridley actually being Meta Ridley and vise versa>He also shrinks drastically for no fucking reason
>>728601694>he let them diegit gud
>>728602770There's literally no way to stop them from dying.
>>728601651>>728601445>there's actually "people" online defending thisLmao
>>728602770You get a gameover if they are downed and take a single hit from anything.The final boss turns the whole floor into damaging zones, so if your allies are on low HP at that point (they likely will be), they get downed then take a hit immediately which kills them.
>>728599189finally got around to beating 4 a few hours ago and I was shocked how long the credits were because there were like 10 different contract teams (not even counting the individual localization teams) and half of those were chinese. There were only 2 white teams one of them had russian sounding names, so that leaves one group that probably spoke english. It doesn't surprise me that the game had such baffling design decisions when you're hiring hundreds of outsiders who don't even speak your language.
>>728602813>>728603074???You can just heal them, played it to completion and they never died once.
>>728603349If they get hit WHILE downed they die. Guess what happens when the whole area's floor becomes a damage zone?
>>728603390Never happened to me, not a single time, actually thought they couldn't die and healing them was the punishment.
>>728601445What the fuck lmao is this in a Metroid game? Is this photoshopped?
>>728596969No, outrage culture is when you recognize that prime 4 is disappointing but the third best prime game overall, yet people insist it's actually the worst game of the decade.
>>728599853Metroid Other M is better at gameplay than this.100%.
>>728603598It doesn't do anything to justify the absurd praise. I think maybe the bosses are legit the only thing that aren't horribly broken in some way.
>>728603797>NOOOOO DON'T LIKE IT, WHY ARE YOU LIKING ITlol wtf
>>728603840>ask someone why they're eating shit>they get oddly defensiveI'm noticing!
>>728603951>NOOO I'M NOT MAD BUT>STOP PRAISING IT, IT DOESN'T DESERVE IT, STOP LIKING THINGS lmao
>>728603840anon thought for anons self and must be severly punished with psycological torture.
>>728574006Who cares about the opinion of nintentards? I mean outside of certified pedophiles working as jannies and mods on this dead board?
>>728604016>STOP PRAISING IT, IT DOESN'T DESERVE IT, STOP LIKING THINGS This but non-ironically.
>>728604016Is this what nintendo fans think is happening?
>>728604128Uh...>>728603797>It doesn't do anything to justify the absurd praise>absurtd praise
Attention all digital fags, 343 Halo devs, and Metroid Prime 4 trannies. FUCKING CASTRATE YOURSELVES. YOU WILL BE A REAL METROIDVANIA GAME. YOU WILL NOT WIN. Get shit on by Kraid in his torture chamber.t. Raven Beak
>>728604204So that's what you get from it?
>>728604250What does it mean then
>>728604220>shantaeDONE
>>728603513No. Go up in the thread, someone posted a video of this moment. You have to hear 35 seconds of yap before you can close the dialogue.
Average Metr00n Prime 4 fanboy.
>>728604041It stopped being about saying what you didn't like and turning into literal fascism and that's hilarious
>>728604304It means that they don't see the game has a flawless masterpiece.
>>728604368>saying they are wrong is an opinionlol
>>728604341Thirty Five whole seconds? Unbelievable
>>728594016(you) are a retard tourist and are ruining metroid
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2025/12/uk-charts-metroid-prime-4-falls-from-the-top-ten Not looking good MeTr00n Prime 4 HRT sisters (them/they). What's the discord defense bot script excuse, wait for the patch?
>>728604538I can't believe Nintendo posts here
>>728575893I think the problem with Prime 4 is that EVERY area is Magmoor Caverns.It's five zelda dungeons, not five metroid levels. Volt Tower and Ice Belt are even pretty good zelda dungeons, but they're not what I play metroid for.
>>728604438It's a fact. Some people's opinions are just wrong.
Great Mines is easily the best dungeon in this game by far. It just sucks that the companion characters have to talk so much in it.
>>728604612>I am the opinion policeSo I was right, glad we agree
>It was me Samus, i personally warped Myles Mackenzie to Viewros, so you would have someone backseating and calling you through your entire trek across this planet.
>>728604691Nothing wrong with correcting people and their wrong opinions.
>>728604598god I wish, Nintendo is probably happy with how prime 4 turned out
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>>728604785Needs more Armstrong
>>728604593Whatever you do, do NOT mention that Silksong is getting a free content expansion.
>>728604785heh
>>728604728lol
>>728587375The marines aren't bad, I just wish they'd shut up and have less screentime sometimes. >MacKenzie Annoying as hell in the early game but he chills out later on, I just wish he'd stop beating me over the head with his "advice". I also hate how I have to keep going back to him for every chip. >ArmstrongCute. Best marine in the game. The fangirling over Samus was done better than with MacKenzie.>DukeFine, he has some cool moments with Armstrong but is a total nothing character.>VUETotal bro.>TokabiHe could be interesting but he gets the least screentime.
>>728604957Other game being good is bad for Metroid how? Good for them.
>>728605042>He could be interesting but he gets the least screentime.Really? I feel like he has the most just because of all the campfire segments. Though only one of them is mandatory.
>>728605067Metroid fans regularly said that free content expansions are bad, because it means the company isn't making as much money. If a game costs more, that makes it better. Or something, I don't remember their logic.
>>728605204>find the robot scout>shows several undiscovered items>spend like 30 minutes trying to figure out how to get them
>>728604593I'm in the good ol' US of A and took this pic just now from the eshop's best sellers category.I feel like a big Nintendo IP like Metroid should not be performing this poorly.Maybe devs should stop hiring they/them faggots and ruining beloved IPs. Idk just a thought.
>>728605261Jamboree DLC is a scam
>>728605261Now show the Switch 2 eShop
>>728605261Metroid's strongest market is the USA. And it doesn't have long legs like Mario, Animal Crossing. It frontload the sales then disappears. Metroid Dread is the oddity in that it kept selling for years and got a neat extra mode/content a year after release. Metroid Prime 4 days are counting down to extinction, as Retro Studios staff gonna get fired.
>>728605221>Metroid fansNot me, I don't comment on things I don't like
>>728605501Don't bother. Anons in the eShop thread last night sincerely think that MP4 opened better than Legends ZA. Fucking POKEMON. Switchfags are beyond all reason at this point.
>>728604728Truly the most dastardly of villains.
>>728602153>He also shrinks drastically for no fucking reasonHe changes size all the time in the Prime games, sometimes within the same cutscene, it's actually really interesting
>>728574380>map is a volcano>objective is to go to its center>"hurrrr straight lines amirite guise XDDD"There are plenty of things to criticize in the game but this is weak.
>>728606589>Retro needs to use several bent corridors to hide low draw distance>this is somehow intricate level designCrash is intricate too then
>>728583085>same poor design choice in both games.This is not the same thing AT ALL
>>728606589Why does being a volcano mean it should be a straight line? What?>There are plenty of things to criticize in the game but this is weak.No, actually level design is a major focus of any Metroid game so if the level design is trash then that's a huge criticism against it.
>>728605364If you're confident enough, post it yourself. I don't have a switch 2. I almost bought one specifically for Prime 4, but then Mackenzie got revealed.
>>728588352>Prime 4 is the best 3d Metroid >I never played prime 2Thank you for the self-own; saves me time
>>728606264We need more big boi ridley.
>>728606742nta but I was curious and checked, I'm surprised and glad they are buying RDR
>>728588352>oops! it was contempt for the past all along!
>>728606728>Why does being a volcano mean it should be a straight line?Did you miss this part?>>objective is to go to its centerWhat is the optimal path to get to the center of something?>level design is a major focus of any Metroid game so if the level design is trash then that's a huge criticism against it.Then you should criticize Great Mines more. It was easily the weakest map to me, almost three levels of actual straight lines through caves and NPC cutscenes, and the biggest deviation from a straight line was getting the Super Missile with VUE-995's help.
>>728607572I think VUE secretly despises humans and he pretended to not be able to break out of the goo, I mean, he frees himself the second Samus kills the griever.
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>>728606589Once again, Prime 4 shills prove they are the "true" fans of Metroid and totally aren't paid shills (or more pathetically, unpaid shills) by... shitting on the previous Prime games to make Prime 4 look better. Win?
>>728607725this is the most complex area in the game btw
>>728608150And it's still just a straight line.
>>728608108Funny how they say that they love the Prime games, but they refuse to ever go back to them because there's not enough talking and NPCs and cinematics. The lack of story and cutscenes in Prime 1+2 literally confuses them, like a bird unable to contemplate the concept of see-through glass. It's no wonder they all love Prime 3 the most.
>>728608108>>728608281>recognizing flaws is now refusing to play old games Gosh
I think it's strange that the Prime series is held to some super high regard. I like the series well enough, but a few annoying NPCs and a few missteps in design are not enough to ruin it when every game in the series is a little flawed. Honestly always wished it could be more like the 2D games.
>>728608108That's just the Switchfag playbook in general - shit on the past and claim they were always bad anyway to prop up the newest games. It happened with Zelda, it happened with 3D Mario, it happened with Mario Kart, and now it's happening with Metroid.
>>728588795I had no idea what the Green Crystals in the desert did because there is like an 1-2 hours of gametime between passing by the alter to submit them and actually getting the bike and being able to go through the desert and find them for the first time, and it sounded like a side objective the first time anyway.And when you ram them, the game makes no indication of what you are collecting, there is no numerical stat, for a bit I thought they made the boost guage go up a bit quicker (when actually the boost guage works by only increasing on its own when your speed is over 700 for some reason)I had fully assembled the mech and still had the base power beam.
>>728608337You recognize them, and yet you don't want them fixed? You're glad that they repeat the flaws, without having something to make up for it.
>>728608475Jesus christ, they went out of their way to make the game extremely handholdy specifically for idiots like you who don't pay attention and you STILL didn't get it.
>>728608626Huh?
>>728608701So many flaws in Prime 4 are defended by saying "well old games did it too" as if we didn't want them to fix these problems.
>>728608685shut up nigger, the game does not tell you that the green crystals are required until the end.
>>728608881>back to this againUh huh, then why are you crying they are not "real fans", make up your mind woman
>>728574380If Flare Pool was just a bunch of straight lines i wouldn't be mad. But you are fucking stuck the entire time with 2 soldiers and annoying swarms of robots. Definitely did not feel like MP.The mines were very similar in this regard but not as bad.
>>728608995Would a real fan want shallow fanservice, or actual understanding of game design? this is Rick and Morty levels of "pandering" without understanding any substance under it.>the heckin quirky chungus fed says "LOOK SHE'S DOIN A MORPHBALL TEE HEE" as if this is supposed to be endearing>when an actual understanding of metroid game design would make it so she didn't exist at all
>>728609126Love how you think that's so bad you have to spam it, I don't think that deters from the experience, I mean I accepted Metroid going a FPS.
>>728609385>Metroid is an FPS like Halo>therefore Metroid should be Halo
>>728609583I said that? Gosh and I was worrying about that butchered syntaxes
>>728574380>Game left a marker for where whatever the fuck her name was>Looked pretty far away>Got kinda excited at the prospect of more level going in that direction>You just take a tram over thereThis game was so consistently disappointing.
>>728609742If you think FPS = annoying obnoxious NPCs, then I suggest you play an actual FPS like Doom. And I mean OG Doom, none of this gay modern doom.
>>728606589Magmoor Caverns didn't feel lame and gay though.
>>728609807I think like that? Have I said other worrying stuff? I wasn't aware my memory was that bad.
>>728609872'Fraid you've got terminal console-itis. Where you need handholding and tutorials every 5 seconds. Seen too many cases this year.
>>728610004I do? Huh
eric thread
>>728606589Counterpoint: Should a sequel not strive to improve upon established conventions? People can argue all day long that Prime was linear, but I'd think by Prime 4 we should maybe have a thorough understanding of how to really work proper Metroid level design into a 3D environment. I can forgive something's first attempt at 3D. I can't forgive this type of thing by game number 4.
>>728610297Not to mention it feels like Prime 4 regressed in the game design. Like with the collectathon. As silly and unnecessary as the artifact hunt was, and as tedious as the sky key hunt was, at least those weren't just grinding for generic crystals.
>>728581783Retard. The mindless goy crystal mining in the desert is like a 5 min loading screen every time, especially counting the transition between area and desert that you have to traverse every time.Even if you could skip the desert like a cutscene skip, the transition between exiting an area and getting to the bike and then getting off the bike and entering an area alone are like 5 elevator rides of doing nothing.
>>728574006I'll always be left wondering what the Bamco version of this game looked like after how disappointing this final product was.
>>728606589Are we doing this again? Magmoor has five entrances, every area in Prime 4 has one, so they are literally straight lines.
>>728610570Either an unplayable mess like everyone predicted earlier, or a relatively competent game that was reworked around the time Nintendo got mindbroken by BOTW's success.
>>728604606A Zelda dungeon (typically) requires some degree of problem solving, spatial reasoning and novel interaction. Prime 4's zones don't even provide that much.
>Tanabe is the only one at Nintendo pushing for Prime games to get made>But he is also going to be the man who kills this subseriesQuite a conundrum
I wonder what these people do when they are not shitposting about games, do they think about new shitposts or do they live their life normally, tho they are here all day so I doubt that.
>>728597742>traversing the overworld without the need for an out-of-game picture for the elevator placementsJust use the in game map retard
>apologize
>>728595619>it's definitely better than 3.Nah. Prime 4 has every single one of Prime 3's but with a worse story and worse level design
>>728596953>but that entire shitty Chozo Artifacts huntHow the fuck can Chozo Artifcacts be what puts 1 below 4 but you still put 2 at the top?
>>728611167At least the chozo artifacts MIGHT have been fun to find, since they all had unique hints and could be collected early. The sky temple keys were far worse, so I have to agree with this anon. The listing doesn't make sense.
>>728605501>Metroid Dread is the oddity in that it kept selling for yearsMetroid dread was the first console Metroid since fucking 2010 you fucking orangutan retard nigger. There was a literal 2 console cycle, and massive growth of market until it even had the chance to prove itself again you monkey fucking idiot.
>>728599189I'm almost always mentioning how shit the scans were.>500 different scans about why this computer isn't on and thus has nothing interesting to display
>>728603665How can that be when Other M's controls are hot dogshit due to their commitment of just using the Wiimote and it ends up devolving into a dodge-counter spamfest? Prime 4's controls are actually functional, at least and it occassionally asks you to use the control beam or something.
>>728604490This game never leaves you alone. It completely murdered the solitude that Metroid was known for.Even if you're just dicking around in the desert. Your receiver boots up ever few minutes and goes HEY SAMUS DID YOU KNOW ITS TIME TO GO HERE NOW??
>>728611898I could have sworn Metroid was known for other things, I mean at some point all games were like that.
>>728612104Maybe you should play more games.I don't remember ever playing Gradius 3 for the SNES and having an obnoxious band of quirky chungus characters narrate the plot and tell me where to go.
>>728594083You're better off waiting till the end and super power bomb the big green ones anyway, they fill the crystal in no time.
The Super Thunder Shot is absolutely insane and melts the game.
>>728612150No retard, all games had you go through the world alone, even Mario was like that.
>>728612347Is it intentionally supposed to resemble Sylux's shock coil?
>>728612707Oh, I misunderstood. My bad.
Are space pirates cucks who will just listen to anyone who is strong enough? Even humans are their leader now.
I love Halo.
>>728612980what really sucks about this is that it makes everyone look useless. >the troopers don't do a single bit of damage to Sylux despite outnumbering him 5 to 1>Sylux doesn't instantly kill them despite taking no damage from their weaponsIt's like a cheap 80's cartoon where nobody is allowed to die on screen.
>>728612906To be fair Sylux gained control of Metroids and the intro states that the Space Pirates are being mind controlled
>>728613137Honestly, from a gameplay and story perspective, Samus could have solved everything on her own (as she always does).
>>728613245Really summed up in the wolf segment.>normally samus can deal with monsters the size of an oil rig>but now she needs to be rescued by some wolves>here comes the friendly NPC to show up and save our damsel!
>>728613137Kinda blows my mind too that the robot decides to lay down a missile barrage for a target that's like 10 feet in front of him. The camera pan tries to make it look like he's miles away, but it just doesn't work.
>>728613137I mean they were literally just buying time. Their attacks didn't do shit but they were still distracting him while Samus got the teleporter working again. Sylux probably could've killed them all but his target was Samus.
>>728610043You’re replying to ACfag btw.
>>728612150Too bad you didn’t play Prime 4.
>>728613365>shows a player clearly struggling with the wolvesHuh
>>728613412That doesn't really make it better. Didn't they just go through multiple boss phases? Sylux shouldn't even be able to stand. It's so obvious they give him dumb plot armor for the sake of drama.
>>728613704NTA but it's a scripted loss basically. The wolves keep coming.
>>728614096And Metroid never had any of that right, what's next, Samus gets saved by a baby lmao
>>728614154>>728614096You can technically survive without your health dropping too low, IIRC, if you survive a few minutes, but it still ends with Samus needing to be rescued via a cutscene.
>>728614214Having two outcomes is too much for a small indie company.Please understand.
>>728614214Samus? Saved by someone else on a cutscene? Unthinkable
>>728614154That was objectively the worst part of Super Metroid. Turning a boss fight into a cutscene sucks balls.
>>728614274>A giant Metroid DNA-infused Alien attacks youvs>Some puppers.Yeah, the two scenarios are completely similar. Perhaps Mother Brain should have used those wolves DNA instead of Metroids when she tried to dominate the galaxy.They're cleary stronger!
>>728614274It's already unbearable when it happens once, but it happens multiple times. Like Lt. Bazinga making le heroic sacrifice for no reason, even though Samus could more than likely survive a Sylux shot. They purposely keep making her weak to jerk off the stupid feds. Like she didn't even slightly weaken Sylux at any point in his boss fight.It is DANGEROUSLY close to a JRPG where you win the boss fight, but lose in the cutscene.
>>728613412Why didn't Samus use the shield function of her new suit. It's literally the only thing it does
>>728614275I honestly don't know where this whole "Samus is invincible" thing, she's so fragile she loses her power ups constantly.
>>728614450>some peppers They were exposed to the green energy rain which evolves them constantly, also it's a pack of wolves that can somehow create a blizzard, the real problem here is that they disappear after that.
>>728614484So we're just going back to Other M, where Samus can be disabled by a single shot from a pistol. Wonderful, let's have her cry and talk about her feelings too.
"The last Wolf is in captivity. The galaxy is at peace"
>>728614453The problem isn't the shot hurting Samus. The problem is it fucking up the teleporter and destroying it, which is what Sylux's first shot already did.
>>728614570No? Prime games do this too, for instance Prime, she gets hit by some debris and loses everything
>>728614674>which is what Sylux's first shot already did.The first shot was stupid too. Sylux appears directly in front of Samus AND she has a shield
>>728595619I can't stand all the fags still trying to dunk on 3 after all these years, even when a worse game in the series comes out. Corruption has>significantly more creative area design that isn't poorly copying Prime 1's homework>less annoying hint dialogue, with the player being able to actually play the game and skip it instead of being forced to listen to Miles Goldstein Mackenzie>cooler supporting characters with interesting designs that make them stand out despite their reduced screentime compared to the Reddit feds>actually meaningful backtracking with optional rooms to find (low bar)
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>>728614674And why is Sylux still alive, let alone strong enough to shoot Samus with that level of force? Did the entire final boss segment just not happen?
>>728614812>lanky robot>buff robot>random energy girl>cool
>>728614870I don't think the shot actually hurt Samus, but she was focusing on the teleporter with her psychic crystal thing and the shot disrupted her which stunned her for a second
>>728614870He's another Chosen One, the Lamorn are not very discerning in that regard or anything really.
>>728614453sylux wasn't aiming at samus at the end, he was aiming at the teleporter to screw over everyone
>>728614938That's probably why he was able to use the pod
>>728614725Anon, people give that an excuse because it's to set up Samus not just steamrolling through the whole early game. It's lazy, but it's more of a means to an end. Other games handle this better, like Fusion ironically enough. >>728614912>>728614939The fact of the matter is that Sylux lost his fight. He shouldn't even be able to snap a cracker in half, let alone destroy anything. Him coming back is such a humongous asspull. It's just amazing how NOTHING works about the ending.
>>728615054She's canonically a glass cannon, it happens several times on several games, she was never known for being super capable and a one woman army, she's just very proficient at what she does but not invincible.
>>728615054They did the same thing with Raven Beak. The boss fight basically didn't matter because Raven Beak took no damage and Samus only won because of her in-cutscene superpower
>>728615184Then she's basically a terrible character.So sick of cutscene-gameplay segregation. How am I supposed to invest in a story when they can't even remain consistent with the game I've been playing for almost 20 hours?
>>728615319>having weaknesses makes her a bad character Yeah she should never have any sort of struggle, ever.
>>728604782lmfao what a terrible saga for you anon, you seem completely retarded and unaware of what's even being said anymore
>>728615390The struggle happens in the gameplay. When you're letting the cutscenes dictate everything, congrats. You've turned Metroid into a JRPG. When I play Doom, my struggle with the demons is one I experience first hand. I don't need a cutscene where Doomguy suffers a forced loss to a Demon just because he's important in the story. That's nu-Doom wankery, and I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.
>>728615229Yeah but that was kino
>>728615535I hated this segment. The whole boss fight meant nothing beforehand.
>>728615575>fun boss fight>followed by kino cutscene>then a fun escape sequence where you get an OP beam to play withI see no issues with this
>>728614812I love how the worlds looked like in 3.
>>728615628>cutscene>anything but dogshitI hate sony so much right now.
>>728615184That's not what the space pirate logs *I* read said...
>>728615628That cutscene pissed me off more than anything in Prime 4's ending>final boss fight didn't matter>Samus bullshits her way into winning>Raven Beak goes out like a bitch
>>728615975For me, it was Raven Beak X. You take a villain who's pretty much been manipulating everything behind the scenes for the whole game, and outsmarts Samus, and then you just turn him into a generix X parasite blob, that very slowly moves towards you in a scripted fight.
>>728615535Get some taste.
>>728574462Seriously what the fuck were they thinking?>Huge red bar at the top>Wall of text at the bottom
>>728614725you’re replying to ACfag, he doesn’t play games.
>>728617216>ACfagIzzat your boyfriend? Is he related to Eric?
>>728603797>absurd praisebuddy i said the game is a disappointment but better than prime 3. the desert is trash, the storytelling is trash, and all but one of the companions get on my nerves. i don't like the fact that prime 4 is linear, but linearity doesn't necessarily ruin the game (i liked fusion). the issue is that the levels start up as linear (fun) (volt forge, ice belt) and end up becoming linear (boring) (flare pool)
>>728617950>better than Prime 3That's giving it a bit too much credit.
>>728615525>DOOMCome on anon, get real
>>728615681>goddamn snoys and their cutscenes reeeeeeeeeeee
>>728618556>old games had problems>let's NEVER fix themIt's no wonder so many secondaries worship Prime 4 as the second coming.
>>728615728Those dudes are as durable as toilet paper, of course they'll believe she's some sort of unkillable goddess, yet they still dare to attack her which implies they think they can beat her.
>>728618615This is just ridiculous, not even entertaining
I'm at the final boss and could use some tips. Is there something I'm missing or some way to keep these fucktards from dying during the lightning tentacles in what is presumably the first phase of the fight?
>>728618669I had the same thoughts about Prime 4.
>>728618615You're actually asking for games to be more stripped down than a fucking 1981 arcade game. Go play chess or cards if you're that allergic to video games conveying any semblance of a story.
>>728579893I bet you also would complain about turning speed in mecha games.
>>728618764If the story is as terrible as Prime 4, then yeah maybe we should strip it down. Aversion to this element of vidya comes from how absolutely terrible most people are conveying a basic story.
>>728618684Heal them? Also use the Super thundershot and Super Missiles to destroy the tentacles fast, damage the dragon heads to make them retreat quicker, the missiles follow the target if the reticle turns red and the super thundershot has auto aim and it destoys the tentacles fast.
>>728618714Reddit moment
>>728619057see>>728618714
>>728618684Super Thunder Shot is an immensely beefed up Wavebuster. It's much more worth draining missiles with this, than the Legacy Shield. Just drop whatever you're doing immediatrly when an ally is downed to heal them.
>>728574380what's the issue here?
>>728574006>I don't want to see anyone criticizing the level design of this game anymore.i don't want to see anyone talking about this game anymore
>>728587375Armstrong and Myles are objectively shit. What's-his-name black guy is okay but doesn't fully get a pass because he's always on the screen acting as the straight man (poorly) to Armstrong. The robot is bland because he's a robot.Tokabi, though? He's my fucking man, I genuinely like him.
>>728574006Ice Belt is the same as every other map in Prime 4. A straight fucking line.There are no secrets or areas to come back to later, you run through it once like an FPS level and then you run through it again later to pick up stuff that requires a spider ball, that's it. No clever interconnected levels, nothing to look forward to unlocking later. They dangle a missile upgrade out of reach but in plain view until later and that's it.
>>728589173Armstrong <3
>>728574629What do you mean? Flare pool has exactly one straight line with three platforms at the end that are destroyed after a scripted event. There are no more layers.
The existence of any feds at all completely ruins the entire game. It never felt like metroid for a fraction of a second. I would have preferred a metroid game about killing feds because they are worthless pieces of shit.
>>728619518Sylux...
>>728619546No no, >>728619518 has a point. If the feds were actually competent, Sylux wouldn't even be an issue in this game. 5 of them together couldn't even hold him back, let alone kill him. So they're just incredibly pathetic.
Love how Samus only cares about Nora, she had just met her and even pulled out a powerpoint presentation to explain the plan to her, also she risked her life to allow her to escape the flare pool.
>>728580282Grievers suck because they constantly try to charge and melee you and Samus is still using the movement controls she had in Prime 1 which is primarily for ranged shooting and platforming.It doesn't work together because by trying to make it feel and play like original Prime you handicap yourself with enemy choices. Even a melee or kick would have eased the problem somewhat.
>>728607725LOOOLL
>>728619605I dont even care about that. The feds make the game WORSE they make metroid less fun. So we should have a game like metroid 2 again, but instead of 55 metroids its x amount of FEDS you need to kill. And when you kill the last fed, samus goes "the last fed is dead, the galaxy is at peace." if this happens then it would not only be a more fun game than prime 4 but it will make future metroid games better because feds wont exist anymore.
>>728619852Tameem Antoniades is that you?
>>728619852This. I don't care about the GFED of Metroid. Metroid 1, 2, Super, Prime 1, and Dread did just fine without them. Prime 2 gets a pass because they exist to make Samus look in a very unobtrusive way, and even then, the early game fed ship site? Could have replaced all of them with Luminoth.
>>728583624You can. In Prime 3 you hang onto a skyrail and have to shoot the electric enemies (or nodes I forget) before they knock you off.
>>728618953>>728619085Yeah I just needed to spam more lightning missiles. I was trying not to use too many. I'd get 2 or 3 people down at once and wouldn't have enough time to get them all up before the next wave, but brute forcing through worked.
>>728588352Bait used to be believable.
>>728620134I don't find his sentiments unbelievable. Time was the artifact and Sky Temple key hunts were quite maligned, though the former more mitigative than the latter.
I like how Armstrong keeps fangirling over Samus and Duke has to remind her to be professional.
>>728614812>cooler supporting characters with interesting designs that make them stand out despite their reduced screentime compared to the Reddit fedsPrime 3 came out at the perfect time where writing had left the really edgy/cringy dialogue of the early 2000's behind but hadn't yet gone full 'hoo-ah' badass marine speak. You cannot understand what Marvel movies and 'geek culture' did to utterly ruin writing in nearly every medium.
>>728615628It's just so fucking lame I don't know what else to say. Random metroid powers that are but actually aren't now part of her DNA? Nothing is explained at all and why can a random chozo help her turn off the suit if it's part of her. No explanation, just end of game.
>>728619246I think I would have been fine with Tokabi being the only NPC who occasionally calls in from scouting. Even if he suggested areas to explore like ADAM I wouldn't even be pissed off if I was the one to call him.
I keep reading Armstrong in Raiden's raspy voice.https://youtu.be/Tbd8VeerVjA?t=109
>>728574006frost belt is a linear path until you split to turn the generator on. Are you mentally handicapped?
Stylux looked better in hunters
>died before i could have sex with them and save them from extinctiondamn
>robot somehow returns AGAIN after the 2nd heroic last standWho wrote this shit
>>728624217Imagine the psychic shit they could do to your dick...
>>728574006>it's free to be confusing and challenging and oppressing in ways the areas of the other games are notAnd yet it isn't.
>Metroid tries to do a "scary" game with Dread>The end result is milquetoast Portal 2 robots>Metroid tries to do a bittersweet "species fails to save itself" storyline >The end result is ever more bland and mediocre, especially compared to something like Outer WildsIt just feels like Metroid isn't really allowed to go "too far" in ANY direction. Like okay Dread was a good game, but with these new era batch of games (Samus Returns, Dread, Prime 4) I genuinely can't tell you what Metroid's strong point is supposed to be.
>>728575213Close. They see the end result of snoy culturing closeted 30yo gaymer dads and the entire model crumbling and figured they must pivot to the young and retarded: very young kids and women.
>>728574380Incel cope
>I got to ice beltkek it’s all downhill from here dumb tendie cuck
>>728574916>Normies bounce off Metroid when they get lost. >Nintendo removes the ability to get lost by removing the level design>Despite the fact that getting lost was literally the game's main puzzle>Game is now a bowl of flavourless grey slop easily digestible for the average consoomer
>>728574006Ice Belt is cool (and the only proper Prime area in Beyond), but what's the deal with this shitpost?>Fury GreenBasic area. Looks nice. That's all I can really say.>DesertAbsolutely disgusting. If you add the desert commute to the area loading times, backtracking is at its all time worst for Prime. Smashing crystals is boring. There are six shrines, and they're all nothingburgers aside from the beam upgrades they drop.>Volt ForgeIt's really just a lesser Ice Belt (turn on generator and backtrack). The theming of the area is weak (why the fuck do these aliens have this complex facility for no purpose other than bike production + testing?).>Ice BeltIt's great. It feels like a proper, derelict facility, and the foreshadowing pays off once the generator is activated. Features the most likable Fed. My only real complaint was that the boss felt disconnected from the theme.>Lava PoolNot great. It's an escort mission drowning in the less interesting of the two common enemies (psybots). The boss fights are kind of cool. And it features the only escape sequence in the game. I don't think that redeems it, though.>MineThematically great. In terms of level design? Not so great. The Mine is the best use of the grievers in the game, and it makes you wish that other areas did more with them (aside from Ice Belt). But if you were hoping to get away from the Feds...that doesn't happen here. The narrative is also a bit too ridiculous. We've never seen the Feds do anything more than job to fodder, so why are we supposed to believe that these guys can hold off an army single-handedly and walk away without a scratch? The only member to get hurt is the last one you'd expect to take damage kek.
Worst Prime game, top 5 worst Metroid games
>>728614812>emulator screenshotThe game does not look like that on official hardware. The hunters suck ass, and I felt absolutely no remorse in killing them. Rundas stood still and let me kill him because even his dumb ass could tell how lame he was. And ignoring all of that, hypermode fucks the game balance irreparably. Enemies are too tanky, overall, and nearly every upgrade / pickup is pointless aside from energy tanks. Corruption's story reeks of late 2000's cringe (big guys from space!). And as bad as the Fed stuff is in Beyond, I'm not sure it ever surpasses the silliness of Corruption's cahwahdoody escort mission.>tldrCorruption and Beyond deserve to be lumped together.
>>728574380>instant GameCubesnoy damage control imagePathetic.
>>728618684The first phase of that fight sucks. I swear there's a mechanic that lets your allies get double-tapped because I had two near instant game overs from them getting downed.
If Nintendo is smart, they'll have Retro remaster Prime 2 and 3 then shut them down
>>728629158>Thematically great.The feds in that zone are either portrayed like fodder for Samus or the Ubermencht for somehow surving all the LAST STANDS intact, no inbetween, also they are really adamant that i care for a robot that i first met 15 minutes ago and we were together for 5.
>>728630421Now we're talkin'
>>728574006I can't believe a game this polished, this fun, and high quality in every single aspect has a 79 on MC, it's like a coordinated effort to take it down. The annoying character only annoys first the first 30 minutes too, that IGN interview by the incel reviewer lapidated the game as most reviewers never play more than a couple of hours.
>>728629535>compared to literal perfectionEven then the game deserves a 90+.
>>728630369Maybe I wasn't clear, but I wasn't complementing the Fed stuff in the Mine. The concept of the area's enemies were great and could have led to more tension if it wasn't for the repeated "GO ON WITHOUT ME!!!" followed by the reunion at the elevator. It killed my suspension of disbelief multiple times.
Any game that pisses off cubesnoys is a good one in my book.
>>728576145I have no problem with the hub worldIf they had made at least 6 worlds and made it more like a megaman game
>>728630809You can get a 70 with polish, alone. Anything above that is usually an indicator of how fun a game is. Beyond is missing something outside of polish.
>>728630809Just because it looks nice, plays nice, and sounds nice doesn’t make it good. There is no meat on the bone. Take out the escort missions, backtracking to Myles for beams, worthless desert padding and endgame fetch quests, what do you have? A five hour corridor shooter. It’s shit, anon.
>>728632303I think the level design is very good, it keeps impressing me by how clever it is. The thing about it is that it made some bad decisions, but when the game is good it's not mediocre, it's amazing. But now that I think about it, Steller Blade, Wukong, NInja Gaiden 4, all have scores around 80. It just that having the same score as a slop like Hyrule Warriors doesn't sit right.
>>728589173That is actually awesome.
>>728604593>UK charts
>>728619518>>728619605>>728619852>t.
>>728632303>Just because it looks nice, plays nice, and sounds nice doesn’t make it goodNever change /v/.
>>728607725That's the most complex map in the game? Wow
>>728633249He's right, though. Technically, Other M is well polished. What's a fair rating of that game?
>>728630809>I can't believe a game this polished, this fun, and high quality in every single aspect has a 79 on MC, it's like a coordinated effort to take it downEven though like as a company Nintendo is leagues above other AAA video game companies, journalists still really hate them because Nintendo genuinely does not give a fuck about them and they are aware of that fact. Thankfully more go out of business every passing month.
>>728633418Other M doesn't really play or sound especially nice.
>>728633487Sound is subjective (though I agree), and the gameplay is functional. If we're being fair, the gameplay in Beyond (and ever Prime game) is functional, at best. We're still rocking fps game design that was born to accommodate the GameCube controller, anon.
>>728614154> Comparing Mother Brain to SyluxKek
>>728574006You spend the entire first half going through a glorified walking sim where you enter rooms and read logs with mininal puzzles or combat, and the last half fighting the same enemies you've been fighting elsewhere, not even like a cool horror half-greiver-half-lamorn fucked up hybrid that would be contextually relevant, just the same old reused enemies.The area is the best laid out of all of them, but still plays out extremely linearly, and repeats the same basic structure of the other areas, so it's wasted.It sucks.
Never played Hunters. How am I supposed to emulate it?
Atomizing grievers with fire shot gets really hold, really fast.They couldn't come up with new enemies that aren't rock/grass/sand/hot/cold variants of shit you fought before.
>>728612906>Are space pirates cucks who will just listen to anyone who is strong enough?yes, actuallywhat the fuck is this new captcha
>>728630421Noramus4ever
>>728574006>>728574380IIRC Myles implies you could go in any order but that seemed to have been changed during development presumably because it got in the way of story
>>728629158Ice belt felt like missed opportunity bc of what >>728633941 saidSpooky derelict facility, but then they give no pay off to it with bo spooky enemy woken up with spooky atmosphere to match.Total missed op
>>728614812Also those companions fit better into the actual story. They were your allies at first and quickly become enemies as the Phazon corrupts them. It makes the threat more real. In MP4, your allies are just chatter boxes.
>>728613137metroid is very cheap 80s cartoonalso holy shit sylux is an absolute unit. If he wasn't pants shittingly retarded and obsessed he could easily be a number 3 or number 4 top bounty hunter in the galaxy swimming in space pussy. could have gotten bird pussy if he did that too, fucking win dodger.
>>728633940actually in prime 4 samus is nowhere near threatened by sylux. his main issue is that he might kill feds or nuke the teleporter before they can scape. he got defeated cleanly multiple times.however>mother brain (didn't expect MB to drop the geneva convention on her)>omega metroid (was weakened)>adam (cheap fucking cunt)>ridley (I don't thing the was going to die but falling 20 fucking kilometers into the core of the planet counts as a failure so she needed help)>ing (dodged a hentai bad end there)>raven beaksamus is a great jobber.
>>728633941>You spend the entire first half going through a glorified walking sim where you enter rooms and read logs with mininal puzzles or combat, and the last half fighting the same enemies you've been fighting elsewhereBut enough about Prime 1
>>728635378Even in SSE she had to be saved by Pikachu, and the Ridley Trailer has her being final smashed by him, it's like her thing, getting beat then coming back to beat them harder.
>>728635378I like how Sylux can’t do shit to her but still does everything in his power to mildly inconvenience her. Even in his first boss phase the greater threat is the Feds dying rather than Samus
>>728635575*steals your wallet*
>>728635608>he keeps it>it locks you out of 100%
>>728574380DELETE THIS RIGHT FUCKING NOW
>>728635575>"SAMUS! I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!!!!!!!!">samus just casually walks back, not even pointing her arm cannon at him. almost misses the arena>"JUST YOU AND ME SAMUS!!!!! NO MORE INTERRUPTIONS!!!">samus says fuck all and just shoots him a bit. was almost going to save him from falling into the void if he wasn't a mile away from her>"SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!">she just zones outit's like she's in disbelief the whole time. it's like with Dread and she faced Kraid but instead of being just a random jobber he's somehow the most dangerous threat of that planet, while still being a jobber and demanding you to fight it.
>>728601412it sucks, just like the new captcha
>>728598417You're right, you have no fucking clue. Dumb fucker.
>>728636243He does? I didn't want to risk it tho I refused to press the button once to see what happened, but damn that's the most dangerous boss fight of any game I know, it even comes with real consequences.
>>728597742>that moment where the music turns into distorted sounds in Ice Belt when you broke the glass on the pod was kinoshit kinda scared me, ngl
>>728611167>>728611237>filtered by sky temple keys
>>728634897That's kind of what I was getting at when I complained about the boss of Ice Belt. I guess, lore wise, the guardians of the teleporter keys aren't supposed to be enemies, but the Mine has a griever for a guardian. That entire aspect of the story is pretty weak.
>>728599061it's almost as if Metroid isn't really about metroids
>>728574916>>728575213no need to samefag your own posts disgusting faggot
>>728599257>You don't have to wait until the end and go back.you literally do. some are locked behind power bombs and plasma beam.>but you can start getting some of them earlyyeah, and you can get all the green crystals whenever
>>728637107The guardians were usurped by Sylux's Metroids
>>728637227He's a cubesnoy, he isn't well.
>>728601445when did anons start hating soul
>>728603797>absurd praise
>>728637245Yeah, but then why is the boss of the Mines a griever? It stands out as being unlike the others.I also would have liked to see the Metroid stuff expanded a bit. How much control did Sylux have over these things (and the psybots)? How did these Metroid gets here? Through the teleporter, obviously, but were they in a ship? Did they detach from pirates? How did they get to the guardians? Why are there only six of them?
>>728610789there's more puzzle solving in Prime 4 than in previous ones though
>>728609864yes it does
>>728637524This.I lost count how many times i had to slowly drag down a purple gem to open a locked door during the game.
>>728610648bro, your logic, where is it
>>728637513Well I guess he was a Lamorn at some point and the exposure to pure green crystals corrupted him, and yeah I would have liked to see more about that, took me a while to connect the dots and it wasn't until after I finished the game and checked the gallery out of curiosity that I noticed Samus' visions were about Sylux's pov, pretty sure that's what Nintendo added after they took over, it feels like a coat of paint.
>>728607725More complex than any area in Prime 1
>>728637647Don't forget the complex "shit a floating morph ball bomb and throw it at lock" puzzles.
>>728608475but anon, after defeating the plant boss you roll through a morphball tunnel in Fury Green and get some green crystals before even leaving to Volt Forge, there's also some right there in front of the place
>>728608475also you are given some and forced to turn them in immediately before you can go to fight the plant boss
>>728609126>would a fan of fanservice game want fanservice in their fanservice game
>>728608475You better crash into every single one you see during the travels back and forth so you are at least 50% done by the time you unlock the tower, then you only have to waste 2-3 hours finding the rest instead of 4-5.
The problems were pretty exaggerated but it's still fairly flawed. I haven't finished it yet but my current ranking is 1 >= 2 >>>> 4 > 3
>>728637610I still can't believe they released a Pokemon game branded Metroid.
>>728630809Yeah, if the reviewers were genuine and honest it would have a 90, just shy of the previous entries.
I went into the game dreading Viola but ended up loving it and wanting more, I uncovered the whole desert and marked the crystal locations the moment I went out there, felt so fun and smooth.
>>728633941>You spend the entire first half going through a glorified walking sim where you enter rooms and read logs with mininal puzzles or combat, and the last half fighting the same enemies you've been fighting elsewhere,It's impossible to tell which Prime game you're referring to with that description
>>728637720I guess my takeaway is that Beyond misses a lot of opportunities for environmental story telling.>it wasn't until after I finished the game and checked the gallery out of curiosity that I noticed Samus' visions were about Sylux's povIt's still weird to me that they threw one of the 100% completion scenes into the gallery with no indication to the player. I only found out about it from seeing discussions online about Sylux's backstory and thinking "what the fuck?". Didn't even know that video was sitting in my gallery.
>>728637647>>728637781so did the morphball bomb slots and spinner slots filter you in previous games?
>>728588643You can scan the bosses again in an archive room near where you deposit your green crystals IIRC
The biggest indicator of when shills are hopelessly defending an absolute piece of shit sequel/remake is when they resort to "well ACTUALLY the original beloved classic was always shit!" In the same breath theyll say the new game is 10/10 amazing and you need to buy it right now, and then when gigantic flaws in it are pointed out theyll desperately denigrate the original and resort to saying actually it was always garbage just like the new one, but you should totally still buy the new one for some reason.EVERY single time its "muh magmoor caverns" when its always been universally agreed upon to be the worst part of Prime 1 and shills ignore the rest of Prime 1 in entirety and that magmoor is just a hallway connecting numerous areas whereas in Prime 4 every single area in the game is just as linear as Magmoor if not moreso and connected by a literal massive empty blob of nothingness.
>>728638654>all these words to openly admit the original was always kinda shit
>>728574006Ice Belt is objectively the best part of the game. Sandwiched between the worst and the third worst ones.>>728574380This isnt Ice Belt you stupid faggot.
>>728638654See >>728608451. Not even Switch 1 games are safe from them anymore either - they're throwing MK8DX (and lapped Mario Kart play in general) under the bus to praise MKW, and Super Mario Odyssey under the bus to praise DK Bananza.
>GameCube cucks are seething at Prime 4I can't wait for the sales.
Why can't people accept that a game can be flawed but still good? The fuck happened around here?
>>728638654Maybe you cubesnoys shouldn't make yourselves so obvious. The Gamecube was always a failure.
>>728639340>more Gamecube Derangement Syndrome
>>728639434>but it's okay when I have Nintendo and Switch Derangement Syndrome
>>728639487Switch Derangement Syndrome is when criticize newest product
Oh look, another thread where Prime 1 snoys pretend the older games are flawless and making up complete lies about Prime 4.
>>728637513There’s actually a room in Fury Green that shows all the guardians. The Great Mines guardian is in that room but he’s up completely unseen so the implication is that the Omega Griever killed it
>>728639572You can call em out all you want, but that doesn't mean they won't do it again.
>>728639340>who cares about game quality, I wanna see le epic sales!!!!
>>728639836I'm looking forward to your meltdown this Thursday's Famitsu thread. This is going to outsell every previous Metroid and cubies like you are going to seethe into their graves.
>>728639836The game plays fine. What's the problem?
>>728636685One of my favorite posts I saw about the game was someone saying that since Samus only saw bits and pieces of Sylux’s backstory she might’ve assumed that he had sympathetic reasons since all the parts of him wanting the weapon and that he got his own team killed were left out. That makes things way funnier to me.
>>728639954>this Thursday's Famitsu threadlol Prime 4 didn't even open in the Top 5 on Switch 2 and didn't make the Top 10 on the Switch 1 either
>>728636685>Sylux...please, you're embarrassing yourself.
>>728638654The Magmoor stuff is just bait. If we want to criticize Prime's gameplay, I'm all for it, but I typically ignore complaints about level structure and backtracking in these games. It doesn't speak to the strengths of Prime as a series (environmental storytelling, context through scans, atmosphere, aesthetics) or the weaknesses of the series (clunky fps mechanics).
>>728640046Now compare the sales to Prime 1's flop sales. I dare you.
>>728639810Interesting. I'll have to look out for that if I commit to a hard run. Was that the room with the "mote writer"?
>>728599189>I am shocked none one is mentioning how boring the scans were. Creature Biology and the Space Pirate antics were some of my favorite parts of Prime 1-3.I waited until after launch to buy and when I found this out I swore off buying MP4. I knew old Retro was dead but this was the final nail in the coffin as far as I am concerned.
>>728614812i've been dunking on prime 3 since i finished it in 2008, it's mediocre as a metroid game, prime 4 has better areas visually and a better soundtrack and better bosses, only good thing about prime 3 is skytown and thats it.
>>728640146Prime 4 launched on two consoles. Those results are pathetic.
When I first played Prime no one I knew had played it before, and for years that was still the case, now it is suddenly not a cult classic but a beloved hit, false nostalgia is so weird.
>>728624217Why does their head resemble a metroid prime larva so much?
>>728640218If I recall yes, it’s called the Sanctum of the Guardians
>>728640250>only good thing about 3 is the worst part of itYou really liked all that backtracking and dealing with the rails with enemies and obstacles every single time?
>>728640514Ooh, so it's that thing with the chunky legs? I knew I never fought that boss but I wasn't sure why it didn't seem familiar.
>>728599189I wish there were more scans but I do like some of the visual stuff. There’s computers in Volt Forge that show how the boost ball machines are normally supposed to be used by the wheel robots, I think it’s neat.
>>728614275Except you have a whole 2-phase Mother Brain final boss battle before the baby Metroid shows up for the final phase (which is a playable cutscene and escape sequence.)Shut your whore mouth
>>728640260Pokemon launched on all mediums. Those results are insane.
>>728641268>selling less than Other M is insane
Imagine if in Prime 5, Sylux spared the Fed troopers once Samus left so quickly and somehow convinced them he was in the right, and Samus/GFF are the actual villains
>>728640303>best selling metroid game until DreadName a more iconic duo than a retard and his uninformed anecdotal evidence
>>728641514Reminds me of how Euromillennials try to act like only Americans ever played Nintendo before the Wii and that enjoyment of Mario/Zelda was some kind of American psyop.
>>728637610I wish Magmoor had a boss fight at some point. That would probably elevate it by a large amount, even if everything else stayed the same.
>>728641514>Prime: 4 millionDo you know those 4 million people? I didn't.
>>728642039Maybe if they didn't rush to meet deadlines, they could've shoehorned in Kraid in Magmoor.
>>728630809Anon just discovered media is rated based on meme public perception and not on whats actually on offer
>>728640087I actually think the backtracking in Prime 1 is a *little* clunky (Prime 2 does it better, broadly-speaking), and the (GameCube) tank controls feel perfectly natural since the game was designed around it. I just don't think people realized they could dry-lock onto nothing to perform strafe-like movement (although it's never required).
>>728642232And this guy in Phendrana instead of a pile of rocks
>>728630809>>728642495It's funny when scores don't go tendies' way. They always come up with the funniest excuses or conspiracy theories.
>>728642539Elder Sheegoth vibes
>>728642653Why did you reply to me, here? (728642495)Prime 4 seems like a disaster. I just reply to other, more interesting posts about better Metroid games.
