I just learned today that Expedition 33 used AI in its development process and it's genuinely depressing me. We are so much further down the slippery slope than I realized.
E33 deserved to win cope and seethe
Any other games like E33?
>>728692817Souls games
>>728692793I'm coping alright. Coping that I spent this much time admiring AIslop. Like I said, we're so much further down the slippery slope it's not even funny.I guess I should wait a month or two before making this thread. Right now everyone is focused on Larian and E33 is more bogged down by the Dorito Pope drama. But since I am shitting on Larian right now, then I feel like I should be as honest as one can be in an anonymous imageboard, and say that I am also hurt that Sandfall is doing it.We are so fucked. Seriously.
>>728692729slippery slop
>>728692995>"we used AI to create some placeholder textures, so we could see what the game will look like even before it's fini->"E33 CREATORS LITERALLY ADMITTED THE WHOLE GAME INCLUDING THE VOICES AND OST WAS GENERATED BY AI
>ai is le badwhat causes this mindset?genuinely askingai is incredibly useful
>>728693106Slippery slope is real and we're falling down. I'm not shitting on E33 in particular, just like I'm sure that Divinity will be a good game. But unironically more people should be pushing back and not just twitter. Because this is not where it ends. The publishers are gonna keep pushing to see how far away they can get with it, and the future that awaits us is a grim one where, ironically, nothing on E33's level will ever be made.
>>728692729they should've used ai to make a Lune sex scene
>>728693214I thought they patched it out
>>728693167Not being 11 years old.I remember when CGI was incredibly useful for Jurassic Park.Now the movies industry doesn't have any background, miniature or even fucking lighting experts around anymore.
>>728693304because we don't need them anymore
>>728693329Thanks for proving my point.
I can't believe how many people are losing their fucking minds over this. AI is way too broad of a term for how many applications for it there are.Way too many people think it's just used to make slop pictures and memes.
>>728692729Unfortunately it’s too useful not to use it. Even if it isn’t on screen, they’re all prompting for story/character ideas and concept art
>>728693329CGI is godwaful, has regressed in quality and has stagnated to the point of no returnAI will do the same to many other things
>>728693370I'm talking specifically about LLMslop. Any LLMslop being used in vidya is tumbling us down the slope. There's no good LLM use in creative pursuits that isn't resulting in our standards lowering within the next two decades.
>>728693358>>728693304>we should keep useless jobs around because???do you get sad when you don't see these around?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_obsolete_occupations
>>728692729You're just now realising?
>>728692729Theres also too many crackers in the devs team
>>728693482I would like it if lamplighters were still around
Any game that isn't 100% human hand crafted should be disqualified from goty
>>728693482Most of those jobs still exist only with different names
>>728693482>Lightning experts, background experts and miniature experts are not a missed absence in moviesAgain, thanks for proving my point. This is what awaits us.
>>728693559>use computer>doesn't count obviously>use paper>doesn't count cause a tree made the paper>use rock>doesn't count cause the earth made themwhat now?
>>728693476>implying the standars haven't been lowering>implying they won't keep lowering anywayYou're going have your DEIslop and like it.
>>728693501Literally everyone who isn't a retard is using AI now at work. Copilot is standard on every machine with office and it literally does your job for you.If you aren't doing it your coworkers are and you will get left behind.
>>728693617No it was all going great for everyone until those DAMN computers started making le slop
>>728693603Nigga did I just catch you using a voice in your head instead of thinking out loud?
>>728693627You and your coworkers will be left without jobs in 5 years tops
>>728693627There are like 40 people globally that actually use Copilot, it's making them rethink even bothering with it's implementation
>>728693603They can use a computer but they have to program the game themselves like people did for the past 40 years before AI was around.
>>728693667>use your brain>doesn't count cause your mom made it and your mom was made from exploded stars
>>728693617Fuck off with this shit. I have never defended DEI in my life, but the harm AIslop will cause within the next two decades will make DEIslop look heavenly by comparison. Gotham Knights will look like a masterpiece compared to 2040's GOTY.
>>728693720but they didn't make the kernel or make the components themselves, those were made with aiif they use an engine that will be made with ai too
>>728693720They better fucking not be using a premade engine though or *shudders* working on an OS that they didn't build
>>728693713NTA but you are confusing 'Copilot', which nobody likes, with 'Github Copilot', which as that anon says, literally every programmer uses (either that or Claude Code)
>>728693773this is something most people don't realizeai is being used to actually develop new chips, its being used to optimize data canters, all operating systems have ai generated code, same with enginesyou would have to design your own chip fab from scratch, make your own os from scratch and an engine toothen mass sell it to people without using anyone else's infrastructureyou would also have to develop and run your own power grid
>>728693878That doesn't come standard on every machine with office
>>728692817Onirism. At least the colorful maps to explore remember me of it
>>728693773>>728693817>>728693937Not him but this is once again the CGI comparison.>Bro, what's wrong with CGI? Did you make your own camera for your movie? No? Heh, thought so.Your equivalence might make you feel good in the moment but it doesn't change that our standards are about to freefall exponentially more than they have ever freefallen before and you expect us to take it silently like cucks.
>>728692729Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
>>728693967Yeah I misread it. No idea what that anon is on, nobody in my office uses the regular 'Copilot' Office suite shit, but everyone does use LLMs (programmers use Github Copilot or Claude Code, everyone else uses whitebox chat frontend LLMs to do things like summarizing or mass formatting)
>>728692729Who the fuck cares, man. STFU already.>nuuuuuuuhhh muh AI nuuuuuuuhyou sound like a fuckin retard caveman crying about the wheel being invented>NUUUUUH GRUG WANT CARRY THING NUUUUUUUHHHH
>>728693106>>728692995imagine for one second believing they only used AI for the textures with text on them(the only way you can tell when textures are generated)
>>728694180>Who the fuck caresAnyone with a brain that wants standards not to freefall>Muh wheelYeah, yeah, just like CGI, right? Go ahead and tell us that lighting experts in movies are a redundant job like the other faggot.
we're all going to be enslaved by AI
>>728692729Sorry but Sebbywebz says this game revolutionized JRPG and pushed the genre 10k years into the future so COPE!
>>728692817literally none. no rpg has successfully and meaningfully mixed turn based strategy with real time reflex checks and observational skills before
>>728694227How many years did you work as a lighting expert?
>>728694269None? Because they don't exist anymore and are all fucking dead or at least retired? You idiot.
>>728694221>the only way you can tellSo why is it bad, if you can't even tell?
>>728694314How are you posting from beyond the grave?
>>728694336it's not, the antis are just retards
>>728694227You're a dumb gay retard. Just STFU. Not even worth arguing with.
>I just learned today that Expedition 33 used AI in its development process and it's genuinely depressing me
>>728694336It'll make standards drop bro and if the bethesda section of my steam library is any indication I can't just not buy the shitty games when they come out and only get good ones so we'll all have to play the worst slop imaginable in 15 years
>>728692729im sorry but did any of you even play the game?its a fucking asset flip. it looks like that chinese climbing game everyone was playing where you jump over unreal store assets until you reach the top / fall to the bottom. of course it used fucking AI. I'm surprised it even had voice acting. IT's cheap shit
mfw I see a post from a retarded nerd romanticizing game development when they haven’t worked a job in their lives and aren’t qualified to push a vacuum
>>728694505dilate
>>728694336You may not be able to tell one AI game apart from a non-AI game.But if someone let you see two alternate 2050s, one where AIslop succeeded, and one where it didn't. You'd be able to tell them apart very easily. And unfortunately, it seems like it's the dogshit timeline that awaits us.
>>728694449The quality of AI is higher than human shit most of the time so standards will increase, that's why artists hate it
I keep thinking to that scene from I-robot.It's funny that people thought AI would struggle with art and acting human and would be better at mathemathical, logical tasks.But it's actually the opposite.
>>728694569AI is unequivocally going to bring about the greatest games ever made
>>728693167Mostly untalented people who can't adapt to new technology.It happens every 25 years. The last shift was Youtube itself. Countless boomers in legacy media bitched about internet videos watering down the quality of media. But we now know they were just trying to sabotage the next evolution of media to save their jobs.
>>728692995>I enjoy this thing very much>finds out, long after the fact, that thing was made with ai>no I can't believe the thing I enjoy was made with ai, better start hating it based on arbitrary stipulationsthis is you, this is how silly you sound>my favorite game was made using TOOL?>I'll spend the rest of my days championing against it, how dare they use TOOL
>>728692793fpbp
The human race ends here
>>728694665Myopic retard.>>728694692You can't read. I never said that I think E33 is bad now. And I can already tell you in advance that Divinity will be about as good as BG3.Again, think of the CGI comparison. This is the Jurassic Park before the Ready Player One. Our standards are starting to freefall now right before our eyes.
>>728694569That's some nice pathos, but "if we had a different future, it would be better because I say so" is not an argument, unfortunately
>>728694789Yes, anon, I'm sure that the future where publishers start being able to get away with producing games with proompters that are themselves inspired by other proompter slop from the previous decade is totally gonna be better than what is currently happening now, which is good games that are already starting to fall for the AI rot.
All these threads are made by coping Tendies and asshurt FFtroonsYOU LOST
>>728694776>nowit's been happening for decades now you moronjews will always take good things and use them for badcgi is not bad just because jurassic world exists
>>728694893>cgi is not bad just because jurassic world existsYes it is.
>>728694692NTA but you should kys for making such a gay and embarrassing post.
>>728694893The AIslop of 2050 will make Gotham Knights look like a masterpiece.Crying about a decline of quality that has already happened is the opposite of a good defense for the exponential decline that awaits us if AIslop wins.
>>728694776The retarded CGI comparison only has any merit if we for some reason act like practical effects never looked worse than Ready Player One's CGI, which they absolutely fucking did
>>728694903>twitter exists>hence the internet was a mistakefuck off nigger
>>728692729KEK every game uses AI in its development you retard
>>728694634This. AI won’t replace the greatest artists, but it will replace slop artists, which is why hacks hate it.
>>728692995If using AI results in something that is admirable, then what's the issue?
>>728694964>There will be AIslop in 2050 that will be better than Desert Bus!!!Woopty fucking doo.
>>728694929you don't get it you moron, quality will continue to drop with or without ai. this is what competency crisis means and it's been happening since the dawn of mankind.we're already long past the point of no return. instead, ai allows competent people to deliver some good shit like e33 once in a blue moon instead of everything going forward being concord.
>>728693708Two more weeks!
>>728693409As long as it´s limited to a glorified google search it shouldn´t be much of an issue. Humans are lazy though, most will always take the path offering less resistance so we can´t really discard that what initially was meant to be used just to define the tone of a piece may be end up used to define lighting, composition and even design as well... specially once deadlines get close.
>>728692817Paper Mario
>>728695060The low point for past technology and techniques was lower than the low point for what replaced them. The high point was lower, too.That will happen again with the adoption of AI.
>>728695114It also allows people who don’t have the budget to hire a bunch of professionals to make something competent, even as a proof of concept.AI is a win for genuinely good art. It’ll only destroy the bad artists.
>>728695050CGI resulted in something admirable in 1990, and that's all the excuses they needed to get rid of every lighting expert, background expert, miniature expert, stop-motion expert, etc.You don't fucking get it.>>728695114Hey, anon, look at these two lines. I want the one on the left. You're saying there's no difference between them.
>>728695269What will actually happen will be proompters basing themselves off on proompters that will be basing themselves off on proompters and the artists of 2050 will just be picking out of a palette of different colored browns.
>>728695151Humans are the only organism that will sometimes intentionally take a path other than the one of least resistance. What you call laziness is the natural state for every living thing.
>>728695274There are films that still use practical effects to this day. It’s just become a deliberate artistic decision now rather than a necessary limitation. There’s also films like the Star Wars Prequels, which were a blend of CGI and practical effects.
>>728692729i don't dive a shit if you're recording your mom's farts and reverberating them to do monster growls, as long as the final product is good
>AI game won the game awardsDead media, video games are over.
>>728692729So why did they not include the disclaimer? Did they think lying to their fans was okay?
Listen i don't give a single shit about AAA games they all suck ass. If a good game is released i play it if not i don't give a shit. I give zero shits about AI usage
I'm imagining this lighting guy that got fired for being worse than CGI as the trumpet guy
>>728695354>It’s just become a deliberate artistic decision now rather than a necessary limitationIn other words, the best case scenario for us, in the AIslop future that awaits us, is that we will have people going out of their way to not use AIslop on purpose as much as they can to actually make good products.Which, yeah, that is a hopeful silver lining to the dark cloud approaching. But it just reaffirms my belief in being depressed that it's the future that awaits us.
>>728692729You being a faggot was never going to prevent companies from using AI.
>>728695151>As long as it´s limited to a glorified google search>anon still thinks its a glorified google search
>>728693167Virtue signaling for internet good boy points
>ai is le badexplain this then?!?1
>>728695337models have already addressed that a long time ago>>728695274there *is* no difference between them>oh wow I love modern slop so much, god forbid the "quality" of fotms and gachas drop (even further) because of aiai is a tool and allows small teams/solo devs to create quality whereas it'd be otherwise impossiblebetter have the one diamond than 100% shit
>>728695440Bro, you are actually insane. You think I'm a 80 year old boomer posting on 4chins?The lighting experts and background experts ARE missed in the industry. They just don't exist anymore. They are extinct. But I don't need to be 90 years old to know that. I just need to watch a movie from the 80s and compare it to the slop we get now.
>>728692729I will still buy the game.
>>728695473Idk if they even realize that thier histronic behavior accelerates it
>E33 haters seething so hard they need to make shit up
>>728695624You are making up a scenario where the only good games that came out in the past 5 years are AIslop, which couldn't be further from the truth.E33 is one of the first few good games that happens to be AIslop, and it is heralding our doom. In our AIslop future, no such thing as E33 will exist.
There's a difference between using AI to expedite the early phases of development and then taking over and doing the important parts yourself, and just typing 'cool drawing' into the prompter and slapping it into the game
>>728695697no there isn'tin both cases you're doing something to make something>bb-but it's too easywho cares nerd
>AI is...le BAD!
>>728695741The final result marks the difference
>>728695697One leads to the other. You're naive if you think that's where it ends.Both as the technology evolves and the public gets more numb and accepting of it (relenting), we keep rolling down the slope
>>728695761And you can't give an actual reason that an AI generated final product will inherently be worse
>>728695791AI has its uses, just like how digital creation programs did back in the day, it's all on knowing how to use them. The current state of people just prompting shit and slapping the result on the game or cover or ad or whatever will most likely be phased away once people with talent actually do their research on the technology and learn how to best use it to help them make their own art
>>728695761But you can't tell the difference
>>728695697>There's a difference because i said soWhy?
>>728695678>You are making up a scenario where the only good games that came out in the past 5 years are AIslopthat's not my point at all stupid>ai is a toolmaking games a multifaceted endeavor sometimes beyond the scope of massive teams with a lot of cash backingai bridges that gap and allows small teams and solo devs to (sometimes) create good shit larger than 2d metroidvanias99% of modern games are shit and the 1% that's salvageable are usually the result of passion, a new tool isn't gonna change thatyeah ai will be used for evil and the amount of slop will increase, but at this point you're pissing in an ocean of piss
>>728692793Fpbp
>>728695858We will live in a world of games produced by AI inspired in other games produced by AI. Your utopian thinking of it is naive.>>728695927The indie industry has been producing good shit for over a decade at this point. Balatro was made with 0 AI.Why the fuck are you happy that we aer now gonna be inundated with AIslop? We are not actually gaining anything from it.
>>728692729Apologize.
>E33 did these bad thingsDamn, it did those bad things and STILL managed to be better than the competition?
>>728696073KEK
>>728696064>We will live in a world of games produced by AI inspired in other games produced by AI. Your utopian thinking of it is naive.Doomerism is the mentality of the lazy and the ignorant. It's much easier and comfortable to just say 'bahhh, its all gonna get worse!' instead of actually informing yourself and doing research on these things
>>728696073just fucking look at the gameit looks exactly like crazy AI art from 2022
>>728696064>We are not actually gaining anything from it.you got e33 out of it dipshit>The indie industry has been producing good shit for over a decade at this point.yeah and hollywood was producing good shit long before color came around but it allowed them to make even better shit
If real people do it better than AI, there is nothing to worry about and if they don't... well why should we even want an inferior product?
>>728696154You just don't know about Jurassic Park
>>728696154E33 based itself on tons of non-AI stuff even though it used AI in its process.The databases it used had no AI in them, it was AI grabbing from non-AI.How do you think it's gonna work two decades of AIslop in? They're using a cheat to get ahead, but what when everyone else uses the same cheat and we live in an AIslop world?Stagnation is the best case scenario.
>>728696186Tallow made better fries. Why are we left with an inferior product now?
>>728696186>If real people do it better than AI, there is nothing to worry aboutThere is, though, because AIslop is more efficient and requires less hard work, especially the more it evolves. Your premise is wrong from the jump.
>>728696248jews>better ban x because jews will find a way to monetize it
>>728696239Anon, do you not realize you just proved yourself wrong? E33 is a game that had every chance to just use AI to make things faster and cheaper, but they chose not to do it. People who want to do that will always, always exist, regardless of how convenient the current tech is. We still have people who make sculptures, we still have people who do paintings, we still have people that do metalwork, why would this be any different?
>>728696308Retard. AIslop IS already an (((investor))) tool.
>>728696308No better ban x because it's a toxic alt right cesspit
>>728696290yes but if it does better then what's the problem? otherwise go back to the first statement
>>728696073doesn't chatgpt automatically do websearches?
>>728696319>E33 is a game that had every chance to just use AI to make things faster and cheaper, but they chose not to do itThey literally did. That's what this thread is about. They used AI when they didn't have to. We're just lucky that it's 2025 and said AI is basing itself on non-AI stuff. The future will not be that. The more the industry becomes AIslop, the more AIslop starts cyclically iterating on itself.>We still have people who make sculptures, we still have people who do paintings, we still have people that do metalworkThey are a complete rarity nowadays. How many people have produced Sistine chapels lately?Again, if your best case scenario for our AIslop future is "Well, but there will be some people that will hold out against it and be seen as antiquated actual artists that produce actual non-slop", then that's good, that's certainly more hopeful than those not existing in the future, but how is that supposed to make AIslop a good thing?
My boss is making me use Gemini. The boss of my boss is telling everyone to use LLMs. It's so fucking over.
>>728696461Just say you solved that bug using code generationWhat difference does it make?
>>728696371It's not better, retard. It's more efficient and easier for the developer. It's worse for (You), the consumer. That's what you're missing.
>>728696494>It's worse for (You), the consumerwhy?
>>728696461gemini is kinda dumb but the context is greatgemini loves to remove functions and comment them out as "removed for brevity"gpt kicks ass but its slower and has less contextcan't wait till the next major version of eitheri am building some cool shit thanks to these models
>>728692729It's not a slippery slope, it's a racetrack. We're not sliding down, we're charging full speed ahead.
Your microchip? AI
>>728696531It's lower quality. Looks worse, plays worse, is less inspired.
>>728696531Because you'll HAVE to buy awful slop, it won't be optional
>>728696581The high end of AIslop is lower than the high end of non-AI. You are by definition lowering your standards by defending AIslop.
>>728696579>It's lower qualityit isn'tyou couldn't even tell E33 was AI until OP told you
>>728696494What if it were comparable?None of us want to pay more for our games but we also all want to earn more money.If the quality is the same, wouldn't that be beneficial in the end?Less people required and thus less development costs.You also might start seeing less safe and more original games again rather than call of duty 29.A single flop can kill a company these days after all.
>>728696627That was true of games moving from 2D to 3D
>>728696627>by defending AIslop.Good game releases i buy bad game releases i not buy everything else=your problem
>>728696487>What difference does it make?That everyone else is using them and making my life worse, you fucking retard, use your brain for a fucking second.
>>728696647Myopic retard. Expedition 33 is in the first line of AIslop. This is the inch before they take the mile. The Jurassic Park before the Ready Player One.Just like movies lost lighting experts, background experts, miniature experts, among many others, and now they are complete slop compared to what they use to be, a lot of skills in vidya will become redundant to the almighty dollar, and quality suffers long term.
>>728696665>What if it were comparable?It isn't.Expedition 33 is comparable because it's the first line.You're not actually thinking about what games will look like when it's AIslop algorithmically based on other AIslop.
>>728696721>The Jurassic Park before the Ready Player One.Perhaps the most reddit sentence ever written
>>728696721You should have just learned to code after show biz had no place for you anymore dude
>>728693292The AI generated textures?
>>728696776Sorry the comparison bothers you, but by defending E33 just because it's good, you are in fact puckering your asshole for the Ready Player Ones of vidya.
>>728693304There are still stop motion movies and shorts made every so often
>>728692729Are you also not over the industrial revolution
>>728692729Guys an AI just flew over my house
>>728692729"Being asshurt about AI" is not a substitute for a personality.As your generation ages out, the next generation will just take AI for granted as a fact of life.
>>728696810You're the third person in this thread that went "Don't worry, bro, you'll still get some quality every now and then in the future."Which isn't a worthless comment, mind you. I do hope you're right and that it's not completely extinguished. But it's still depressing that it will become a once in a blue moon event because we falling down the AIslop slope at terminal velocity.
>>728696870>that it will become a once in a blue moon eventThat's what it is now though all AAA games suck
>>728696842Yeah, just like the average zoomer now takes the Iphonefication of technology for granted and doesn't even know how to use cmd or fucking torrents.Of all the shitty arguments used to defend AIslop in this thread, yours is the worst.
i bet silksong didn't use AI
>>728692729>we can now have better games made by smaller hyper-focused talented teams that would have been impossible only a few years ago>anon is bitching and crying about itLolLmao even
>>728696906I agree, but AIslop will come for indie games too, unfortunately.
>>728696932Maybe if they did it would have had fewer bugs
>>728696721>thing bad because the US entertainment industry is full of hacks!Not interested, dumb gringo. You forget your country's embarrassing decline over the past two decades is not a reflection of the world at large. Clair Obscur and the game awards are a great example; An US dev has not won shit in half a decade.
>>728696973I don't care if you make a good game i will buy it if not i have enough good games
>>728697101based rational consumer
>>728697101Well, I'm gonna turn into you a decade or two from now, I guess. A /vr/tard that only plays shit from before 2020 with occasional non-AI slop coming out in 2042.Don't know why I should be happy about it, though.
>>728697171
>>728692729I fell for E33. Mind you I love the game, but I would've never supported it had I known. At this point I'll do a bit more research before buying anything new but most likely just gonna play old games.
>>728697246based
>>728696918>the average zoomer now takes the Iphonefication of technology for granted and doesn't even know how to use cmd or fucking torrentsThis. Everyone at my workplace is millenial and no one has ever heard of torrent until I casually brought it up. They also only know how to make a basic ping on the cmd. Your average millenial is really stupid in terms of tech literacy.
>>728697171you're mourning the last decade of gaming because fotm and gacha slop will "decline in quality"I'll side with ai on this one>what do you mean cod black warfare ops 27 is using ai!?
>>728697316I guess I should be thanking you for using gacha and "fotm" instead of talking about muh Concord or Dragon Age or whatever.But it's still the same problem. You're talking about the worst games from the past decade. I'm talking about the best games from the past decade. The standards are gonna be lower across the board. If anything, garbage like gacha will be indistinguishable pre and post AI
>>728692729The dev really paid this site to advertise the fuck out of it didnt he.It's not even a good game. It's just a western rpg without any soul running on shitty unreal 5 with stolen unity assets ported to it.People praising this slop are the problem with gaming today. We have GENUINE great games get ignored for this crap
>>728696932Who knows, they've outsourced a fuckton of work. Maybe the core team didn't, but the chinese in charge of animating this or the portuguese translation team might've
>>728697431>Who knows, they've outsourced a fuckton of worklol fucking cope
>>728696932>i betokay, so you have no clue? what's the point of this post?
>>728697410what the fuck are you talking aboutgood games are good games regardless of ai or any technological advancementsimilarly fotm and gacha slop will be slop regardless, that's the pointunless you actually care about aaa gaming, ai will have 0 impact on good gamesand if you do care about aaa you deserve everything bad that happens to you
>>728697424>We have GENUINE great gamesLet me guess HK 2 Hades2?
>>728697561>good games are good games no matter what :)No. The "good" indie games of 2040 will be AIslop based on other AIslop inspired in an industry that has become fully algorithmic because that's the most efficient way to make games.People already use all sorts of easy "do it for you" engines (Which I have nothing against, mind you) and you think they aren't gonna fall headfirst into the later variations of AI engines?
>>728697621No anon I said good games
Steam had the right idea but the wrong approach. It's too easy to handwave shit as "Well, this doesn't really count as AI, so we will not disclose it"We need to have it be the other way around. An "AI FREE" tag. Make the effort be in claiming that your game doesn't have AI, rather than have the effort be in claiming that it is.At this point, the default assumption should be that a game is AIslop.
>>728697709No you didn't
>>728697648that makes no sense. clair obscur uses ai and it's still a good game. a lot of good games released in the past decade, even ones using unreal/unity and store bought assets, are good despite the shortcuts. also people who took the long road developing their own engines and assets despite shortcuts being available.according to your logic, there shouldn't have been any good games the past decade because standards have been dropping for ages now. but good games will be good and slop will be slop.
>>728692729Still didn't play E33. Still not going to. You fags deserve this and the future that follows. Should have listened to me and stayed away from that game. Keep being virtue signaling faggots though.
>>728694043kek
>>728698058Why would I listen to some retard tell me not to play good games?
>>728697918A hat in time deserves more fucking awards than experdumdum 33
>>728697987>clair obscur uses ai and it's still a good gameBro still doesn't realize the slippery slope we're in.Clair Obscur is using the minimum amount of AI, this shit is just starting to ramp up now. And all of the AI it used was based off of non-AI material, which will not be the case in 2040, when every game released the decade before will be AIslop. AIslop will be based on more AIslop.Engines and assets are a completely different matter. You're doing the equivalent of defending CGIslop by bringing up the fact that directors don't handcraft their own cameras.
>>728698220>Clair Obscur is using the minimum amount of AIit's cute you believe this
>>728698327No, anon, don't get me wrong. It's using way too much AI. But it will get a lot fucking worse than this. That's my point. This is the inch. We haven't gotten to the mile yet.
Ok this dipshit is just boring now
>>728696568I fucking love ai
>>728696073ohnonono
>>728692729that explains why it plays like shit
>>728698670the "activist detained by the government" shit always read as LARPing to me, and I'm glad the izzat shit confirms that they will just lie constantly
>>728698220>by bringing up the fact that directors don't handcraft their own cameras.yet some do on principle which proves you're wrongyou're concerned with a drop in quality because of >new thing when, historically, good games have been good games despite >new thingscgi did not somehow make it impossible for people to create good movies, some with cgi eventhe only people that should be concerned with the advent of ai are fotm and gacha enjoyers, ie slop cattle, which makes me think you actually play modern aaas and thus should go fuck yourself
>>728698670>newfag finds out that anons copy paste reddit posts to ragebait
>>728692729how much cents did you get for posting that thread ranjeesh ?
>>728698365it's using more than publicly disclosed, that's the point. for all your doom and gloom e33 is still a good game. judgement day is already here and you didn't even notice.
>>728698871>I've been found out
>>728698914sorry but you can't flip around the newfag allegations this time
>>728698871>when i am losing the argument it's ragebait
>>728698963ok rajeesh
>>728698906Jurassic Park was a good movie too. Inch, mile. You're myopic.
>>728692874I suck at dodgeslop souls games but didn't have problems learning to parry in E33
>>728699135yeah and odds are any good movie from the last decade used cgi to some extend.shock, you can still make good products with new technologies.
Don't worry just remember the hand memes haha that was fun right?
>>728699350Oh, yes, we can tell. Here's what vidya's future looks like. Thanks for eating the slop.
>>728693720This. Also, let's not forget the final product is determined by human artistic vision, always.AI is a tool, not the creator itself.And vidyagaems are art.
>>728699662you realize anti-AI people made that movie right
Keep crying.We won
>>728694221what else?You are always saying "they used AI" as if they generated whole game with it, AI button, poof, upload to steam and sell itWhat did they use AI specifically for?
>>728699771textures, ideas, set pieces
>>728699135It’s just a tool. Studios like Sandfall and Larian use it to speed up parts of their workflow and to create placeholders, while still delivering good games. Ubisoft, on the other hand, will use AI to write their entire game and produce slop.That just the status quo, good dev will use AI in a non-retarded ways and bad dev will use AI to produce infinite slop, nothing is changing.
>>728693167Retards. The only reason ai is pushed is because when you use it for everything it can make you do anything.>What, popular anti-government figure comes out? Let me ask ai!>No goy, he's a pedophile who loves harming children and hates vaping! >Damn, I hate him now and need to buy me some vapes!This shit already happens with TikTok. The algorithm already shows you shit that eventually pushes views to whatever relates to their current product placement contacts. Shit is not even hidden but plainly stated.Doesn't take a genius to see how it's going to be used everywhere. Your games will be interactive ads you pay for
>>728693329That's why Hollywood is collapsing, yeah
>>728694180Yeah no one cares about you, go back to generating porn
>>728694373You literally can't buy ram anymore, and the "antis" are retarded?
>>728699771Literally just placeholders that were subsequently removed with real drawn textures. and retards parrot that as if the game was made solely using AI.
>>728692729It's good because of the writing and human themes. Without those it would be like forspoken. Yeah, the game feels like an asset flip half of the time, but it's forgiven cause it's indie. Games using AI just look better than they are, that's the only real problem
>>728700764>no one caresThe thing no one cares about is your whining. Normoids are all in on the AI bandwagon. Companies are all in on the AI bandwagon. Governments are all in on the AI bandwagon.You already fucking lost but by all means keep coping and seething. It's funny.
>>728695354And Hollywood is dying. It's too trivial to make shit look like a CG wonderland that it doesn't matter anymore. I watched the recent Frankenstein and it just looked like a bombastic videogame, no sense of realism to it, it was like a cartoon with cg wolves and other animals
>>728695616Cringe and soulless>>728695627Man, you can see when directors started believing that color correction was the same as lighting
>>728699349E33 is static souls
>>728701123Normies hate ai slop with a raging passion. Try going on Twitter. Only hapa nerds in their basements think ai is gonna give them ubi, when instead your rachitic body will be given the choice between being fertilizer after euthanasia or fighting zog wars as cannon fodder. Canada is euthanizing convicts as we speak. You'll got to jail the moment you refuse your AI slop education or don't do what you're told. Get it yet? DRAM prices exploding means independent AI is also dead for the near future
Its actually baffling how retarded everyone in this thread apparently is, using AI to generate placeholder assets to assist with synergizing development workflows in a game is literally the exact same shit as some blocky default geometry bases before applying more complex manual labor
>>728701721>Normies hate ai slop with a raging passion.No they fucking don't. If you get that impression then you've curated your twitter feed into a bubble. Normies talk to ChatGPT every day and share memes made with Sora.
>>728692995Omg they used a drawing tablet during the development!How dare they use the Internet??I cant believe they cheated by using a computer!Im never buying anything thats been made using electricity.
>>728701904This but unironically.
>>728701785Stop runining the narrative. We like to be outraged.
>>728692729>oh no someone use tool that I don't like. I am gonna kill myself cus of thatNo one cares.The only problem with AI is the fact it can easily create tons of slops by anyone. There is no floor expiriance entry. You don't need to spend even few minutes to learn how to use it. That's the biggest issue of this software.I
Making something with ai shows you didn't care to use the time or money to make it yourself. So you shouldn't be surprised when I won't use my time and money on what you made with ai
>>728702448womp womp
>>728699718Yes, I give him credit for that. Maybe he saw the industry get destroyed by CGIslop and he realizes that he doesn't want to double down with AI as well.
>>728692817Expedition 1 to Expedition 32, basically all the prequels
>more dramafaggotryReminder that femoids and actual fags love this shit, if you want to prove you are better than 3dpd and fags you know what to do.
>>728700875>he actually believes this
>>728701204>And Hollywood is dyingGood.
>>728692817Legend of Dragoon, FFVIII, Shadow Hearts games, Mario RPGs
Why is bReddit and ResetEra here? Go back to your shitty over moderated websites. I've already got to deal with a bunch of people screaming about a bunch of shit but doing nothing about it. If you want to change something with your suicidal ass, go blow up one of the data centers. Fuck.
>>728694569proc gen textures have been standard for decades, you're imagining a timeline where videogames outright do not exist
>>728699771Writing. If they'll use "placeholder" textures for posters they're letting AI write scenes. Maybe they punch up the dialogue later, who knows; but ai generated script would be harder to detect than some obviously illegible posters. They changed course when they got caught with the posters, but that doesnt mean that they're going to admit to any other ai use that may or may not have happened during production. The whole premise of people living in a closed space where reality is degrading seems perfect for generative ai use. I think the whole game looks ai as fuck and there is probably a huge amount of applications of it that they wont tell us about. I'm still waiting for the e33 team to make a statement if the larian situation gets worse. "Hey guys, lay off Larian and let them use ai. Why? The game we made that you've been glazing all year was actually 50% ai. Yeah, it was more than the posters lol". There is no 'slippery slope' anymore, we are now digging through rock bottom, looking for bedrock.
>>728704548Better to shit on it than to shill it.
>>728692995>I never noticed AI use until they said they used it but now I'm going insane!!!Log off, detransition and find Christ.
>>728702231No. The biggest issue of the software is how its use assures an ouroborous of talentless people feeding on other works made by talentless people.Video games being developed by rolling dice. That's our future.
>>728706578past*
>>728706552You missed the point. You're still thinking in 2021 terms of "lol they have shitty looking hands!!!"It's not a matter if you notice any individual work using AI or not. It's a matter of a feedback loop of works created out of lazy corner cutting for decades straight. Just like what happened with CGI.
>>728692729I don't care about AI outside of using it for gooning purposes.
>>728706654See: >>728695274
>>728693708lmao the most replaceable job for AI is the C-suite.
>>728692729Fake News
>>728693214There's nothing wrong with AI. I'd like to see it used more often if it can get games made faster (for less money)
>>728706942You're a pig asking for slop. Just go look at the roblox storefront. You'll be fed for your life.
>>728692729>>728692995anon understand that they literally used AI how it was intended to and not as a crutch like pajeetslop does
>>728692817The edgy Alice in wonderland game
>>728692729I thought it wasn't made with AI but they bought most of their assets over making shit themselves
>>728707210but enough about black souls
>>728692729For those who pee pee poo poo
>>728692729Cope.
The thing that people don’t realize about AI is that nobody even vaguely sentient wants to use it legitimately. It’s shareholders and executives that literally have not contributed a single thing in the creative or action process that advocate (demand) its use.Everyone with boots on the ground has already realized how annoying and useless AI is, and that relying on it actively bottlenecks processes because of how inefficient it is.Corpos demand its use because companies have invested so much useless money into AI model that they absolutely have to justify its incorporation into projects in some form.
>>728707271Thats just rpgmaker slop, im talking about the one with real graphics
>>728692729>used AI in its development process and it's genuinely depressing me. do you understand how ignorant this makes you look? you didnt even state the type of "ai" or in what way it was used, just the fact "ai was used' do you know how fucking broad that is? was it generative ai? what kind of ai? was it a place holder? was it to enhance a texture or help paint background images? does it even matter that the other 99% of the work was done by real artists and professionals and gave artists jobs? probably not because every ai hater i see is a fucking retard that doesnt actually know shit about any of this, just following the new trend to hate on X or Y and virtue signal about it.
>>728707353God bless the government for funding all this worthless literally unprofitable shit that is worsening our life in every department.
>>728707330kino
>>728707446It was LLM, and supposedly, it was all used for placeholders and concept art, which doesn't make it ok.It's not OP's fault that LLM is being hidden in the overall umbrella term of AI. That is exactly the point. LLM shit is being hidden inside a very wide term of different technologies.
>>728707558LLM is hiding itself as just "AI" because of all its worse implications.The rest of the AI technology is hiding in AI to go along with the LLM funding from the (((Investors))).It's a symbiotic relationship.
>>728692995>I am also hurt that Sandfall is doing it.Don't talk like a faggot anon, it's not a good look to act like your fweeings were hurt by the heckin company
>>728707330it should have been 10. but chinese bots and paid jeets voted for some gacha coomer game instead
>>728707558you have 20 words to explain to me why what's used for a placeholder texture should matter at all
>>728707758Slippery slope. Give an inch, they take a mile. They will not stop here. The beginning of the end. Sloppification.
>>728707558>it was all used for placeholders and concept art, which doesn't make it ok.so you need to pay an artist for every change and every modification to concept art? you need to pay artists to make every single place holder or pay for every place holder?fuck that!! this type of mentality needs to stop. Artists have always been whiny babies because they take on a profession that is a complete gamble. Then they get mad when their art degree and one skill doesn't land them consistent work.
So many good looking games I can't play because they use AI shit in them like the Alters and Expedition.
>>728707992Oh, brother.Stop fucking making this about muh artists.It's about US, the CONSUMERS. Who don't want our standards to lower. You fucking cocksucker.
>>728707942i appreciate committing to under 20 words but if that's what you're afraid of it's long been passed
>>728708235You're naive. Whatever lowering of quality you think has happened now will be microscopic in comparison to the AIslop future.
>>728693627Only artists are mad because they tought robots could never take their jobs, when they are the first being threatened right now.They wanted to be a poet in the commune, you know?
>>728708334then focus on the actual offenders instead of practical applications of it, i still don't know why a placeholder matters
Only people I see ever crying about AI are leftists crying about woke artists losing their jobs, therefore I support AI usage.
>>728708491Because it's the food on the door, along with every other LLM use. It's not just shit like the Call of Duty zombie images that are pushing us off the precipice. It's shit like this too.
AI makes faggots like you seethe, sounds good to me.
Didn't the Alters use AI as well?
>>728692729No one will care if the game is good, it's just that few of them will be
Would have preferred if they just used a blown up PNG of Verso's face as a placeholder instead of supporting something that is causing the prices of PC components to skyrocket
Why doesn't E33 have the AI info yet on steam?
>>728708665Scrolling background text on a monitor has the whole AI prompt of>Sure, here's what you asked:in it before a text scrawl, and they apparently rushed some of the translation using AI and left in the prompts in the dialogue, claiming they intended to patch it in a hotfix.
>>728692729>and it's genuinely depressing meHope it will depress you enough for you to anhero
>>728708789We need an AI-Free label.
>>728708789Because they knew people wouldn't buy it if the disclaimer was there
>>728693239I'm sure someone out there has already made it
>>728708864The bigger issue was because they apparently didn't intend to keep it there, they didn't disclose the game has AI in it.
>>728696073>32 expeditionslol
>>728709001so what you're saying is there's no AI in the game?
>>728709085I'm only elaborating on the reasoning for the backlash with the alters, not passing any judgement on it.
>>728692995SARRRRRRRRRR YOU MUST STOP ENJOYING IT YOU CANNOT BLOODY BITCH
>>728693708And you'll be gone before that retard>>728693667
>>728692729Maybe if you whine more about AI it will disappear?
>>728696396Yes, but people dont know what AI even is anon
>>728696721>By lowering quality you release the best game in 10 yearsOkay, so what you are saying is every game needs to be made by AIYou are complete fucking retards if you believe the game was made by AI btw, in case you needed clarification of your mental capabilities
>>728696932>Shitsong
>>728697246Based, you should kill yourself while at it so that your parents can finally live freely of the same of your birth
>>728692729>my enjoyment of a product depends on whether my liberal echo chamber approves of said product's production methodsway to announce to the world you are a faggot OP
>>728710030>"It's only slightly hot, this is actually quite comfortable", says the frog.
>>728703978>He actually believes realityNigger I know you haven't even watched a stream but I own the fucking game
>>728710272No, the frog told you that you are fucking retarded
>>728710270Who are you quoting? The game didn't turn bad because it's made with AI. But it's now officially part of our descent through the slippery slope.
>>728710397I am trans btw, if that matters
>>728694261Super Mario RPG. Paper Mario. Mario & Luigi.
>>728710493>Kneel before AIgoyslop or you're a tranny!lol
>>728710397the only slippery slope i see is the one leading down to your mom's gigantic anus
I hate aislop as much as the next guy, but the ai hate is approaching meaningless territory. At what point is a game considered made with AI? If there's 100 people on a dev team, and at some point in the five year development one developer chatgpts how to write a function, is that game now considered to be made with AI?
>>728710293>billionaire freemasons would never lie to me :DD
>I love this >this has ai>I couldn't tell this had ai>wow nothing about this changes but I hate this now
>>728692995This dude has failed to make a single substantial counterpoint this entire thread.
>>728693593Cry about it and then get left behind retard, the world isn't going to stop revolving because you don't like something.
>>728692729D&D sounds like more your style, only your own hands and imagination required, no pesky technology getting in the way
>>728710756>wow nothing about this changesMyopic retard.The game itself didn't change.The trajectory the industry is taking because of it did.
>>728710493Forgot to mention I also suck cock and drink gallons of cum on a daily basis
>>728710884>Hahaha, you're getting left behind!!!And you're eating slop. Your point?
>>728710665These people will seethe and mald and cope if AI comes anywhere near anything they like, even if it's not in any significant or meaningful capacity. Make note of the OP who has been bitching this whole thread over its use for literal placeholder textures that don't even exist in the game.>>728711151The "trajectory" of the industry was going to go this way regardless of who or what did it. Trends change and new technology is adopted and implemented. This has been the case for the entirety of human history.
>>728711151how does that affect you personally?
>>728711304Not all new technology is good. AI proompt shit is devolution.The only reason it's being adopted is because it makes shit more efficiently. It makes it worse, too.
>>728710756I could tell, the designs are weak as fuck I’m not surprised it’s AI
>>728693167It's bad because it lets really untalented and retarded people scam others for low effortBut people won't admit to that (since it's mostly Chinese/Indians/browns using it nefariously in general) and just assume any use of it is badWith that being said, it's extremely useful and convenient already and will only get more ubiquitous and better with time
>>728692729retard
>>728711394ur cringe dudeu argue like a girl, based on emotions
>>728692729The (((interest free loan))), the massive shill campaign and the 33 cargocult-cattle signaling in the title didn't tip you off?
>>728710030>movieshit is the best game in 10 yearsCompletely delusional
>>728692729>What you're telling me the game assets are AI-generated??>No the whole game is handcrafted, they just used AI for internal concept art>Oh so why should I care about that>BECAUSE IT'S STEALING JOBS FROM CONCEPT ARTISTS!I don't give a shit about some idiot's job. Cope and seethe, should have learned to code dumbass
>>728711151How does it feel to be called a fucking retard over and over again by dozens of people in the span of an hour?
>>728712404>jews are now freely funding great unpozzed games made by Whites for Whites that are also sold well below AAA pricesounds like we won if that's the case. it concerns me that you have a problem with this
>>728712519>30% of the game are cutscenes>Movieshitgeeeeeeeeg
I hope AI accelerates the death of the games industry.
>>728712892way less than 30%. E33 actually has a very low ratio of cutscenes to gameplay for the genre.
>>728712952I think 30% is story only but yeah anyways:geeeeeeeeeg
>>728712952Longest compilation on youtube is 7h and that includes ALL cutscenes, which means all secondary zones, which means a 50-60h game, so basically like a 10% of the game are cutscenes"Movieshit"Fucking pajeets
>turnbaseslop "gameplay">not a moviegamelol lmao
>>728712712All of those people think that I think the game sucks now, so they're the retards. Reading comprehension isn't that hard.
>>728714648run along zoomshitter, adults are speaking here.
>>728712753The industry will become exponentially more sloppified than it is right now and you're to blame.
As long as the games are good, who cares?
>>728714832Answer the question tardy
>>728714978>The year is 2042>Celestial Blade is the most anticipated game of the year and you can't wait to play it>The game is made by 7 developers total, using state-of-the-art AI development tools>It is mainly inspired by 2039's AI game Mayheaven, which in itself was inspired by the long running AI series Chaos Crysis>The last time anyone had an original idea that wasn't algorithmically generated and influenced this game can be traced back to the Devil May Cry series from over two decades prior>The game turns out to be shit, like every other game you played that released this year>You don't know why>There's something you're missing, but what?
>>728715046Expedition 33 being good doesn't change the fact that it's a game that is continuing to roll us down the slippery slope. Games as good as Expedition 33 will not exist when AI takes over more and more of the inspirations and creative process of vidya.
I think ai sucks
>>728716703based
>>728692729There's no hope for someone like me, is there?
The bubble will pop
>>728716997Of course it will, but that doesn't mean vidya will be saved from AIslop.Plenty of this shit can be done "locally" now. The databases are already here.
>>728692729>slop game was made with slopwho cares?
>>728712712>Bro, it's just concept artAnd what if this is not where it ends?
AI haters don't look.
>>728717238>He thinks it will end at placeholders
>>728712712>they just used AI for internal concept artNot even. They just whipped up some placeholder textures instead of using pic related like in the good old days.
>>728717283It's not good enough to be used seriously right now. If it becomes good enough it will be used, if it won't, it won't. It's like complaining about electricity. Something retarded faggots did to make themselves feel good.
are any of these "convenient" tools that "conveniently" result in lazier products actually passing anything onto the consumer?
>>728715356>The last time anyone had an original ideaWhy do you retards act like you just go up to an AI and say "one game please" and it will then give you some random thing? Why would it work that way? >The game turns out to be shitWhy would AI take over producing things if it was shit? You fucking mongoloid. Markov chain text generators have been around for a long time. Know why they haven't replaced books in all that time? Because they were shit. Smug faggots, the lot of you.
>>728692729>I just learned today that a product used a standard tool in its development process and it's genuinely depressing me
>>728717469No, this will be the first time in human history where a massive increase in productivity won't lead to a reduction in prices.
>>728717583>Why do you retards act like you just go up to an AI and say "one game please" and it will then give you some random thing? Why would it work that way?It acts close to that on an case-by-case basis. People are inputting prompts and then selecting their favorite outputs, even if it's to then copy them.>Why would AI take over producing things if it was shit?Because it's more efficient and the customer won't be discerning. It can be used from the smallest things to the largest things and it's just a matter of knowing how to ration it out until it becomes the norm.
>the way it was done by literally everyone before AI generation? *chuckles* well that's too much work and nobody is doing that. the future is coming, you vill adapt ze slop tech
>>728708789isn't it only mandatory if it's generative AI and it's used for a majority of the project?i could be wrong
>>728693167if u were an artist or not a consumer u would know
>>728720213Yes obviously Steam doesn't require you to disclose if you used copilot to generate some code to parse a list
>>728692729>get 10million dollars>still use AIlol lmao even
>>728718104>the way it was done by literally everyone before AI generation?you mean discs full of stock textures and sound effects?
>>728720468they didn't "get" 10 million dollars, they used 10 million dollars. they got MUCH more than that in return. i look forward to your continued seethe, please keep it coming until you finally slit your wrists in the right direction.
>hiromoot fixed the site and now it's the same small handful of e33 shills in less than half the e33 threads that can barely keep them all bumped Finally /v/ is becoming usable again
>>728720603just like when you don't like faggots you just are one
>>728720959if i were a faggot why would i love a White and heterosexual game so much?
>>728694692>AItard reading comprehension you're genuinely 80 IQ
>>728692729Expedition 33 being made on Unreal Engine 5 is worse than the devs using gen AI
>people love the game>find out it had AI>now they hate it despite nothing about the game changingThis is actual derangement
>>728692729The best game of our lifetimes was made using AI. You think this is a black pill, but once the human element is completely removed you will see a gaming renaissance.
>>728724130literally never happened, i suggest ingesting your medication.
>>728724130and hysteria about AIthey are literally mentally ill on several levels
I can't believe Jennifer English was actually an AI model and Larian was in on hiding this fact just like the E33 devs. It's incredible what companies can just get away with.
how is that surprising? everything about it looks like it was AI generated.
>everything about it looks like it was AI generated.
>>728703398Based.Haters will say otherwise
>>728692729You bitch ass faggot I've been spamming the E33 threads for months about how it uses AI and you somehow missed it.
>You bitch ass faggot I've been spamming the E33 threads for monthsanon is really proud of this too. let that sink in.
>>728726220I am vindicated finally.
>>728726327you have a strange definition of vindication then because from where i'm sitting you got RAPED AND BTFO. E33 won.
>>728695905Based,be like Dave
>>728726327no, you are just an attention whore on a Kazak feminine gender study imageboardThis isn't tw*tter or r*ddit no one fucking care about you and your shitty post history. Just put on a trip so I can filter your nigger ass posts out of my browser; you will be happier pretending that you are speshul and matter online and I will be happier without reading constant trash when I'm lurking on MY /v/.also make the captcha actually hard, im tired of retards
most of the shilljeet bots got raped by the captcha and it’s just 2-3 of the usual schizos left who are in every thread defending this garbage
>>728728081damn, e33trannies are MAD
>>728728081I have won.
>>7286931061. it launched with those "placeholders" and they were only replaced when people noticed them2. it stands to reason that there are more AI generated assets that people can't strictly prove were AI generated that are still in the game
>>728728652There's a lot of assets devs very clearly stole from other games and only really determined autists found out years later. I'm not talking about some assets in some generic asset CD either, rather straight up stolen assets.
>>728692729>Shill the game>Learn that it has AI used in any shape or form>Instantly calls it shitYou people are a plague and don't know what's good or bad in life.
So what about valve and that one game of theirs?
Why are you genuinely depressed about a fucking videogame, let alone that AI was used in its development process, let alone that they only used AI to generate placeholder textures for internal testing purposes? Yes we're down the AI workflow integration slope somewhat but I think people like you are have slid all the way down the extreme pearl-clutching moralfaggot slope. You need to shut the fuck up.
>>728692729If E33 is a good game, and it use AI. Then how/why is AI bad?You are just emotional. There is no rationale reason for the AI hatred.
>>728692817Nier series. Which they stole most of their story and music style from.
>>728692817The Time I Have Left seems promising
>I just learned today that Expedition 33 used AI in its development process and it's genuinely depressing me. We are so much further down the slippery slope than I realized.
>>728692729Still makes me laugh remembering people trying to say this game was causing big game corpos to seethe when what was actually causing that was Silksong. It got a ton of flak for being $20 with people crying they shouldn't set the standard at that, however I'm supposed to believe the game made by a AAA dev splinter group making people pay $50 for store bought assets and ai use was against what (((investors))) wanted? LMAO
>>728730457Retards too slow on the upkeepThe priority is not trying to figure out who is using AI or trying to discourage AI use in fucking video game developmentThe priority should be making high quality AI free and available to the general public like internet, electricity, water.
>>728730896hashbrowns really have no business being as delicious as they are for just being a fried shredded potato.
>>728692729Yeah, it's sad
>>728724130Why are AIjeets incapable of reading?
>>728730635>What makes you think that a future of AI vidya based on other AI vidya from the previous decades will be shitty?Experience in life, kid.
>>728721216>french>white and hetero Nice bait anon
>>728696987It's a game about bugs, idiot
