What JRPGs are you anticipating purchasing in the Steam Winter sale?
>>728695783Expedition 33
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>>728695991It's already on sale
>>728696823I'm waiting for a real sale
>>728697057It won't go any lower
>>728696626How's Stranger of Paradise?
at least keep this thread weekly or something no need to make it daily
>>728695783>JRPGDumb term.
>>728697401I want to talk about JRPGs>>728697505Dumb post
I’m replaying bravely default and Octopath. If anything they are reminders how bottom of the barrel photorealistic games are
I wanna know what the best version of the mainline final fantasy and dragon quest games are
>>728697642It's a jarpig anon. It has brain damage and should be looked upon with pity, not bothered with questions its mangled mind cannot comprehend. Stop bullying the retard.
>>728697729>bullyingDidn’t happen. It was just some notmalfag mouthing off and pretending it can punch up at its betters. Hell it failed a basic reading comprehension test
>>728696626sorry for your loss
>>728695783Four Niggas in a Row My favorite game
Just finished my izanagi run in P4G. Bretty gud. Still one of the best games ever made
>>728695783DQ III remake, maybe I-II but I doubt they'll go on a decent enough sale. Not sure if I'll grab it on steam or switch 2 yet
>>728698023>Switch 2Dies with the console>SteamPlay it anywhere, anytime
I'm playing the FF7 remake for the first time and I'm enjoying it. They added a lot of dumb shit and changed a lot but I'm still having fun.
>>728698093Wow the nintendo marketing already working
>>728695783Emerald Beyond and maybe resonance of fate
>>728697097I won’t buy it then.
>>728698246That SaGa art style is uncanny af
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>>728698246>Emerald Beyondmy nigga, EB gets a lot of shit from people who don't really enjoy JRPG mechanics and whine it's not just like every other JRPGIt's like crack for me, one of my favorite JRPG battle systems in recent time
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>>728695783What are some Hostile JRPGs?
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>>728698321>>728698360>>728698548By your powers combined...
>>728695783Plan to get octopath but my complain is that jrpg games are too expensive on steam even if its on sale. Their normal-average prices are like $50 in steam. I never boughteding a $50 jrpg game in my ps2 back then, but in steam, that number seems to be a norm - at best they will just go down to like $20 or $25 if its on sale. Its rare to see a good jrpg listed below $10 unless its a well known franchise like final fantasy. I mean, even ubishart put their valhalla on sale for like $5 as we speak right now and their company is like, on the brink of destruction or something; and we know that asscreed slop have higher cost in production with bloated content, mocap, audio design, whatever, compared to jrpg. So... why?
>>728695783there are none out that i don't already have
>>728698715doubt
>>728698246i actually haven't heard of resonance of fate before, i'll have to look into it
>>728698274cool subjective opinion that has nothing to do woth gameplay
>>728698834>getting this mad
>>728698642Popularity. More buyers = better sales.
>>728698402lisa: the painful (can't comment on any of the fangames, never played them)wizardry 4 (i-it's l-le american! if you fags think you can call faggot33 a jrpg then you have no right to have an issue with a sequel of the literal father of jrpgs being called a jrpg)the 7th saga (and NOT the japanese original version, elnard, they're two completely different games)metal max returns (enjoy your lead mushrooms)lennus (enjoy groups of 12 enemies that can do 1/5th of each party member's hp all at once, also your spells cost hp, also half your party members at any given time are always going to be scrubs and there is literally nothing you can do about it)etrian odyssey 1 (enjoy your F.O.E.s)
>>728698642If you want to get into Octopath, buy Octopath II. Don't bother with the two others.
>>728697626>final fantasyThe ones on steam>dragon questDon't bother
>>728698402SMT ifthe guided fate paradoxSRTOG2natural doctrinegungnirdungeon travelerslinda cube
>>728695783Tales of Berseria>t. Haven't played a single Tales game
I wanted to replay Xenoblade Chronicles 2 but this time on a emulator with the gacha fix and rebalance mod, this game doesnt scale with the built in scaler so you have to use a mod, ok fine but this mod has a what feels like 30% chance of just black screening on load or infinite load bug. So yeah I will never replay that piece of shit. Thank you for reading my blog.
>>728700787Wait for the remaster
>>728700901>didn't play with the uncensored patch
>>728697401There's an almost daily CAG/JAction/HackNSlash/DMClones/NGClones.
>>728698402Baroque
Already got all the J-rpg's i need, waiting for FF Fortune's Weave next year.
>>728701489>FFYou mean FE?
>>728701547yeah my bad.
Posting some thoughts on DQ1 HDYou think "remaking" this game would be simple but I like this a lot less than 3HD even though DQ1 (snes) was a fun experience. It feels a lot more bloated, the open-endedness of the game is also a lot worse, the combat is annoying since you have to rely on Cop Out (heh) a lot more. You can't even really grind in areas you're not suppose to "be in" yet because RNG can just fuck your asshole with bad enemy spawns (3 separate enemies or fuck it one of them just desperate hits you and gg). Even if you do XP gain is kinda ass. Some of the added scenes just felt unnecessary and I think they "abused" the cutscenes when most of them should've been a simple just go up to NPC and talk to them. Feels like it really missed the mark. I think what they should've done is fix the maping/level scaling a little so you can still explore the world to make it a bit more open, and move ALL of the princess raura scenes onto her own "route" (aka if you keep the princess with you) and visit areas for optional flashbacks.Draconic mode also feels really not well balanced. Relying on cheap skills and RNG just doesn't feel good to me. Doesn't even really feel like you can overgrind to make up for it which I liked in other DQ games.
>>728695783>Neo: The World Ends with YouThis is a recommendation for anyone that sees this. I beat the original World Ends with You on my DS in like 2008. I'm now 36, saw there was a sequel on steam and thought "Why the hell not?". Despite not rememebering any of the plot of the original game, and despite it being a stealth direct sequel (they shit the bed in my eyes by going full nostalgia fest near the end), I had a great fucking time. I spent about 65 hours with a fair amount of dicking around, and I missed a lot of stuff.
Tales of the abyss and xillia 2 when? Stop blueballing me, bamco.
>>728701968you're old af unc
>>728701968it's a cool game but still lacks some of the creativity from the first one desu
Is Vesperia any good anons? I think this one and Berseria are the only Tales I didn't play.
>>728702303Berseria has a really cool opening and some good hentai. That's pretty much all I can say about it.
>>728702303I don't like that you have to unlock unknown in ng+ like other team symphonia gamestales games are fun when you unlock the hardest mode after like 500 battles, less time wasting but it's still good desu
>>728698274I don't like Kuramochi's character design but the artstyle in itself is fine.They still haven't fully figured out that weird watercolour custom shader they wanna use yet though so it does looks weird at times, I prefer it to the plastic look of things like Bravely Default 2 where everything looks like an amiibo.
>>728698605Lmao.
>>728702461Revenge of the Seven has a good art style I wish the whole franchise used
>>728702509RoTS look like fucking Genshin Impact, it's a soulless UE5 animu game
>>728702461things looking like toys can work if they just lean heavily into it and the whole board game aesthetic.look at crimson shroud
>>728702687Still better lol
>>728702046They released a 30th anniversary video. Be patient.
>>728695783Might pick up the Lunar games if they have a good sale.
>>728702046The anniversary PV was all about how they are remastering and rereleasing all of the older titles
>>728703123No more than 20% off
>>728702687i can't fucking stand the way demake of the seven looksbut what really matters is how they fucked up the actual gamelay and game mechanics
>>728702690Crimson Shroud doesn't have the glossy plastic look BD2 has and it's deliberately styled like a tabletop game too, something BD2 doesn't do either.>>728702832If you're a tasteless zoomer I guess, after all that's the audience for that remake
>>728703260>seething
>>728703260yeah BD2 looks like shitjust saying desu
>>728695783Don't forget to play Star Ocean: Blue Sphere
>Be Square Enix>Square side going completely retarded and being rewarded for it because they have a lot of braindead fans that'll buy whatever slop they throw out. A good chunk of them will bitch and whine about Square but then STILL buy the same shit. (WAT ABOUT TURN BASED WAT ABOUT TURN BASED????)>Enix side doing thing completely right but because LGBTfags are seething about cultural differences and normies/hypocrites HATE turn based games, they're constantly being overshadowed by the other side.AHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>728703313Yeah, I'm seething an amazing game like RS2 got an awful remake made by an incompetent team who had ten times the budget of the main team and somehow couldn't even make better animations with all that money on top of mangling the gameplay and script, it takes a special kind of Falcom tier incompetence to achieve that.
>>728703686Keep seething. RotS was a success.
The rpg spam is getting really, really bad. Go play an actual video game
>>728703975Go bother a gacha thread
>>728704037Gachas typical use rpg mechanics, these are one in the same. Stop spamming the board with the most casual nitwit magnet genre ever created. Every second spent playing rpgs is an enormous waste you will come to regret.
>>728695783Wandering Sword
>>728704123Fuck off, nigger. This is a good thread. Go pester the dozens of other worthless bait threads on /v/.
>>728704175>This is a good threadThis is an atrocious thread and the board is noticeably exponentially better when the rpg spammers are asleep.
>>728703792Some okay bucks that don't translate to actual customers in the long run isn't really much of a success, SF2R immediately dropped back to normal numbers because the people who bought and dropped RoTS don't really care about it or the rest of the series, it was minor FOTM.E33 is also a massive astroturfed success and it's still a shit game too so I'm not sure why you're trying to troll anyone here unless you literally bought SE stocks and are a literal shill.
>>728704238K, troon. Thanks for the bump. >>728704264>E33 out of nowherebuck status: broken
>>728704385>No argument>Simping for E33Yeah, these are marketing threads alright
>>728704556Yeah you're mad lol
>>728697626FF1 and 2 - PS1 or PSP (PS1 is more faithful, PSP has more content)FF3 2D - Pixel RemasterFF3 3D - SteamFF4 2D - SNES translation hackromFF4 3D - IDK, probably SteamFF5 and 6 - SNES (there's probably some good hackrom)FF7 - Steam modded (see the austinsv video)FF8 - Steam or RemasterFF9 - Steam moddedFF10 - PS2 International versionFF12 - Steam or consolesFF13 - XboxFF15 - SteamFF16 - AnyDQ depends on if you want the old english translation or a basic normal translation, I'll use OE for old english and BN for basic normalDQ1 and 2 - OE: Older switch version modded with better sprites. BN: SNES fan-translated.DQ3 - OE: the mobile version or the remake. BN: SNES fan-translated.DQ4 - OE: DS. BN: SNES fan-translated.DQ5 - OE: DS. BN: PS2.DQ6 - OE: DS. BN: SNES fan-translated.DQ7 - PS1 and 3DS are somewhat different, they're both valid versions to playDQ8 - ideally the fan-made mobile remaster since it gives the best of both worlds, but since no one wants to play with mobile UI, play the PS2 version undubbed insteadDQ9 - DSDQ11 - Steam (DQ11 S) modded to restore the original graphics
>>728705217FFX/X-2 remastered modded is better than the international version
>>728705346have they actually managed to fix all of the graphical issues of the remaster?
>>728705570I guess? I haven't had any issues and mines using 100GB+ of texture mods.
>>728705346What mods are you using?
>>728705217>PS2 version undubbed insteadThere is no JP dub for PS2 DQ8
>>728697626FF1 - PSPFF2 - PSPFF3 - PR FF4 - PSP or DS (if you want some spice, it's an actual remake though) FF5 - GBA with sound mod / PR maybe.FF6 - T EditionFF7 - Steam ModdedFF8 - Steam Modded (desu I really wonder how that autistic story mod is that nobody seems to have played but caused a shit ton of controversy)FF9 - Steam ModdedFF10 - PS2 EmulatedFF12 - Steam / PS2 (Steam makes the game significantly easier and more "open" but also has a lot more QoL which you probably fucking want because this game is SLOW AS FUCK)FF13 - Steam modded (Use HD cutscenes/4k textures replacer/I think there's also a FF13 fix mod)FF15 - SteamFF16 - Steam (Use Logos Unleashed and see if that actually fixes the combat since people bitch and moan about it)DQ1 - SNES or HDDQ2 - HDDQ3 - HDDQ4 - DS DQ5 - PS2 (fuck Deborah, trust me you will ALWAYS marry Bianca. ALWAYS, I've tried marrying Nera/Deborah every playthrough and I end up fucking going back to the last save to pick Bianca instead. Don't know why it happens, just does)DQ6 - DSDQ7 - Remake DQ8 - DSDQ9 - you only have ds lolDQ11 - Steam (hey wait where the guy get the modded DQXI stuff? I swear when I looked, it was still incomplete even though it was backporting. DQ modders are lazier than FF modders are)
>>728705853I got confused, too many games to keep track of
>>728705889Again, FFX/X-2 remastered steam modded is better if you're willing to put the work into it.
>>728702687It's just modern animu look, anon.
>>728706049hey YOU DONT GOTTA REPLY TO ME WITH THE EXACT SAME POST OKAYIF YOURE GOING TO DO THAT AT LEAST LINK THE MODS. I don't think they brought back the faces last time I checked.
>>728706134Okay, fine. It''ll take me a hot minute to list ALL DA MODZ and I'm at work. It's mainly untitled project X, reshade, upscaled textures, and PS2 character models.
>>728706306IM AT WORK TOO (wfh rules). IS YOUR OFFICE STILL BUSY? I'M ON BATTERY RECHARGE MONTH
>>728706134There are mods for the models but I doubt any amount of mods will fix the animations.
>>728706386I work in a shop making custom wire harnesses and PCBs for our scientific payloads.
>>728697215It was my GOTY 2022 by a large margin.
>>728706474ah....idk if that means it's still busy season for you
>>728706542>2022For me it was Atelier Sophie 2
>>728706567it's a little slower with half the shop out on campaign
>>728702303I really don't see the praise for Vesperia, I think it's nostalgia. Berseria has a very likeable cast but you should play the demo first to see if you like any of it.
>>728703165Make it 33% and I'll buy.
>>728697215Kusoge
>>728704264>Says the FEshill with a discord troon literally bumping the threads
>>728706542>>728706645Astlibra
>>728695991Not a JRPG.
>>728707042I still have to play it.
Related enough but how did people like Dragon Quest: Your Story and Final Fantasy VII Advent Children and Final Fantasy Spirits Within/Final Fantasy Legends of the Crystal /Final Fantasy Unlimited. I don't think I've ever seen people talk about them except "I hate the ending" or "it's fine"
>>728700787That's the worst Tales games I played>t. Played 2 Tales of games
>>728707093stay seething, lmao
>>728696626>tactics below A2Nigga
>>728706542>>728706803The duality of man
>>728707042I didn't play that until like 2023 or 4, but it's in contention for sure.
>>728705889>DQ4 - DSNo character dialogue
>>728707402whoops sorry that was my bad I forgot I played DS modded.DS modded with party chat then. IIRC it's in japanese version but they didn't have time so they cut it but there's a fan patch that brings it back but you have to play on the japanese rom.
>>728707402you can mod it back
>>728697057Imagine not paying for all your games with CS2 skins
>>728706134I might be missing some but this is what I could recall using. It was a pain but it's possible to get it to all work together on the steam deck.Prerequisites:Project Untitled X: https://wiki.special-k.info/SpecialK/Custom/UnXExternal Mod Loader: https://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasyxx2hdremaster/mods/150PS2 Reshade Preset: https://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasyxx2hdremaster/mods/241FFX:PS2 Faces: https://www.nexusmods.com/profile/vyacharin/mods?gameId=1515Texture Upscales (also for FFX-2): https://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasyxx2hdremaster/mods/244Other Texture Upscales: https://www.nexusmods.com/profile/CATACHR1SM/mods?gameId=1515FMV remastered: https://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasyxx2hdremaster/mods/121FFX-2:Yuna PS2: https://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasyxx2hdremaster/mods/237Field Retexture: https://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasyxx2hdremaster/mods/147NPC Retexture: https://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasyxx2hdremaster/mods/146Lulu/Wakka Retexture: https://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasyxx2hdremaster/mods/138Jap Voices Fix: https://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasyxx2hdremaster/mods/216
>>728703686jesus fucking christ, THAT'S what guanyin looks like in demake of the seven? for FUCK'S sake
>>728708412Nice. Also just want to add that if anyone here is planning to play FFX or XIII but don't think anyone will because the hate meme is too strong on this one and you're not cool if you try to make your own opinions. Imo, it's better to play on the japanese dub. English voice actors "match" the character sure, but I think the voice direction is quite off compared to JP. JP does a lot better on the emotional parts especially when Tidus voice starts cracking while fighting Jecht.
>>728709641I ALWAYS play with Japanese dubs. >SpoilerI don't mind playing XIII but I'm just waiting for a remaster.
>>728695783I finished Expedition 33 earlier and now I'm going back to basics with Final Fantasy 3 on the NES
>>728709821It's weird with FF nobody talks about how good the japanese dubs is at times. It's weird because the japanese script for XVI feels more in line with GOT then the english script does. I should try XII japanese script, it's the only game I got memed to playing the english dub and it was fine.
>>728702509No.
>SaGatroons ITT
>>728709949I think why nobody talks about it is because it's expected to always be good or at least good 9 times out of 10.
>>728697626just play whatever version is available to you
>>728710090It's just weird because X is really REALLY fucking good in the jp dub over the eng dub yet people just really love the meme lines I guess. I do too.>"Like big fireworks! Yeah?">"Hmph, you big meanie!"
>>728707402I played DQ4 DS last year did I miss something by playing that version?
I got Metro Quester Osaka because I liked the first Metro Quester so much.
>>728710396i mean he just said itno party chat
>get in the mood to play JRPGs>look at the JRPG section in Steam>it's all remasters/remakes/portsDamn this genre is fucking dead
>>728710956what are you in the mood for, what have you played i can recommend some
>>728710380Thankfully memes don't compel me to make bad decisions unless the whole game is a meme like metal gear rising or stranger of paradise.
>>728711040I like SOP but I think the whole fanbase is part of the annoying "oh look at me im so ironic" millennial crowd that's annoying as fuck.
>>728710956yes, we barely get actual good jrpgs anymore
>>728710956E33? Digimon Time Stranger?
>>728711359*SOMBER FRENCH MUSIC STARTS PLAYING*Time Stranger isn't that good imo
>>728711359One isn't a JRPG. Both are shit.
>>728697626ff1, 2 - psxff3, 4 - dsffv, vi - gbaffvii, viii - not worth playing, kusogeffix - psx, unleashedffx - not worth playingffx2 - vita hdffxii - ps2, ntsj izjsffxiii - ps3ffxiii-2 - pc, hard mode modlightning returns - ps3dragon quest:i, ii - nesiii - gbaiv, v, vi - dsvii - 3dsviii - dunnoix - dsx - 3ds
>>728711523>>728711558And therein lies your problem. You can't enjoy new things.
>>728711704I absolutely can. I just can't enjoy bad things.
>>728711359Digimon Time Stranger feels like just one more of those weebshit jrpgs that started to become dominant on 7th gen
>>728711760It is
>>728697097>It won't go any lowerit will be like 9 dollars in 6 months anon
>>728711742you only have bad taste
>>728711760>$100 of DLCno thanks
>>728711704WHAT? you don't like *SOMBER FRENCH MUSIC PLAYING*>>728711760i like cyber sleuth desu. That shit is max comfy. I just wish the battle system and digimon factor in these games were better.
>>728707269I like the fun factor of advance 2 better than FFT story
>>728711848Nope. You're just a shit eating turdie.
People who hate E33 never played it and whose opinions are purely fueled by bad memes
>>728712307*SOMBER FRENCH MUSIC STARTS PLAYING*
What's the best JRPG you've played this year? Doesn't have to be released this year but re-played SMT IV F and [SMT IV F]UCKING LOVE THIS GAME.
>replies with incoherent seething every. single. time.
>>728712307I beat it and it sucks.
>>728712468Post your playtime and achievements
>>728707093Yes it is, no matter how much you seethe and dilate.
>>728707093>>728712551do you fucking retards know what the J in jrpg stands for?
>>728712501Just so I know, if I did everything are you going to get assmad and insist I must have actually liked it if I did everything?
>>728712626>>GOTY 2025this means literally nothing. didn't fucking astrobot win last year? kys
>>728712626somber french music starts playing
>>728712419Digimon Time Stranger
I want to get into SMT. Is V:Vengeance a good place to start as it is on sale right now? Or is it better to start with another title?Also I don't like Persona but SMT seems to have a darker atmosphere which looks more appealing to me.
>>728712626Why does it anger third worlders so much? They get mad about the weirdest shit.
>>728712626>200+ hoursFucking how? You can 100% it in 50 and there are no alternate routes or anything to try on repeat plays. The game is extremely railroaded and one note.
>>728712864>I don't like Persona>SMT IS SO GRIMDARK COOLgroan
>>728712864you should try with SMT1 and 2maybe SMTIVnocturne and V are kind of bad representations of what the franchise is actually like. especially V desuit's also not a particularly great game. its good but thats about it
>>728712864personally I think nocturne is a great place to start
>>728713395I only like Persona 3 and some parts of 4 but I absolutely dislike Persona 5 and the current modern Persona aesthetic
>>728712626TRVKE
>>728712626The game was made by third worlders though.
>>728711010I played Persona4 and loved it. I plan on playing the other fatlus games but I don't wanna binge them back-to-back.>what have you playedThe only other JRPGs I've played and enjoyed are Golden Sun, Earthbound, Disgaea, and Nier (Replicant and Automata). It's not a JRPG but I liked Omori as well.
>>728711257the literal best jrpg of all time was released last year and it's not a remaster remake or port, you're just a fucking retard who doesn't play jrpgs or like jrpgs, fuck off
>>728714473Please tell me what the best JRPG of all time was.
>>728712626>jeets seething in the replieslol lmao even
>>728714473Last year was 1995? Holy shit
>>728712591they don't, they're zoomers, they don't know that the anything in anything means, especially not the meanings of words or the deeper understanding of them obtained through understand their etymologies
>>728714435if you're in the mood for srpgs then try tactics ogre, devil survivor 2 or gungnirnot all fatlus games are the same. desu I like their action games more (trauma center/catherine) but if you play like radiant historia and strange journey or etrian odyssey or persona q 2 back to back you won't see that much in common.
>>728712864SMT VV is the best game in the series and Nocturne is the game that pretty much every game Atlus has made since mid 2000s is based off.
I'm gonna either get into the Trails series or the Tales series. Which is better?
>>728714435disgaea is a srpg and nier is an arpg you retarded fucking nigger
>>728714473I like Emerald Beyond but it's hardly the best JRPG of all time.
if you don't know, then you don't play jrpgs and you don't like jrpgs, simple asi will not cast pearls before swine, find out for yourself, zoomer faggot
>>728709949It's because FF never had the option to change the dub unless you pirated an undub. It's also the most popular JRPG franchise so most people talking about it are not enthusiasts who would bother playing the undub version.I played FFX, FFX-2, and FFXII dubbed on my PS2 and I liked it because I didn't know any better and had no options to compare it to.Now I refuse to play any of their games dubbed.
>>728709641Personally I think FFX's English dub is fine. And way above standard for its time.
>>728714754wrong
>>728714701Trails can burn you out more.Tales has worse stories but fun combat. Made by two teams. Team Symphonia games are pretty normie friendly while Team Destiny games have a lot of flashing lights, weird difficulty-scaling loot systems, autistic stats and oddball choices like every member in your party being a battlemage and quick casting being tied to a DDR minigame played in real time during combat while you tug-of-war for territory in a 2D plane and get heavy penalties if you lose it or MP not really being a thing or combat happening in 3 lanes with each party member controlling like a dark souls character in 2d or...
>>728714808it literally is, one day (when you are older and your tastes and critical think skills have matured) you will realize this
>>728714473
>>728712591Merely the initial country of origin of the genre, not the perpetual only country that can make games in the genre.
>>728714979I know you were trying to make that sound bad but it honestly sounds kind of fun
>>728711645>3>gba>not snes
>>728712591do you think people who aren't Shakespeare can write Shakespearean sonnets?
>>728715182Do you think people outside of France can make champagne?
>>728715064if you want a 100 hour long gooner dating sim visual novel wankfests with shit combat, play kisekiif you want retarded wolf team attempts at a sidescrolling arpg, play tales, and then play summon knight swordcraft monogatari 1 and 2 instead, since they actually executed the concept correctly
>>728715101meant gbc >>728715376kiseki isn't bad if you play the evo versions on nightmaretits 3rd especially is almost a good gameI can't really agree with the second point though. i love swordscraft story 3 to death just like i love summon night 3 and black/matrix 00 to death but team destiny does their shit really well. destiny dc, 2, rebirth, graces...pvre lvdo
>>728714858does the ai upscale get you autistic too
>>728709949I started playing FF14 in Japanese audio because I was tired of the faux Old English dialogue being so prominent. But it just makes it more noticable when a character goes "daijoubu?" and the English subtitles say "prithee is aught amiss?"
>>728715182… no, honestly, not well
>>728715643You can only mod the character models in the JP version
>>728715643That looks good wtf
>>728709483Most battle animations are like that, the idea isn't terrible but the execution is very sloppy and amateurish.https://streamable.com/a1msuxDark Blade still has a misaligned weapon model rig to this day, they somehow made the best version of Four Seasons in the series though so at least there's that, not sure how EB manages to have way better animations but that's probably because Tomokazu Shibata worked on it.
>>728715643this isn't bad but the high level of detail on the arcade machine clashes with the featureless face on the TV
You guys need to stop cussing so much. This is supposed to be a friendly thread.
>>728712626The only opinions that matter are the ones with a playtime attached to it.
>>728715858Look up the 7th Heaven mod manager.
>>728715643I love how fan upscales of games are usually better than official ones
>>728695783I'm thinking of diving into the Utawarerumono franchise this sale. How's Monochrome Mobius?
>>728695783Expedition 33 won. JRPGs lost.
>>7286957833 houses on steam? I don't eblieve you
>>728716370Bottom has more sovl
>>728716440E33 is a JRPG>>728716463nxbrew
>>728695783Clair Obscur Expedition 33. Other JRPGs are just for lusting at upskirts of panty shots.
>>728715941It's a separate mod. some parts of that mod breaks others so beware if you enable it haha
>>728716865Based
>>728716865somber french music starts playing
I've always heard good things about the Romance saga remake, and I downloaded some time ago and I haven't even installed it.I know I'm going to have fun but starting a long JRPG is always a chore.
Is it just me or are piracyfags annoying as all hell
>>728714979No wonder graces feels so weird
>>728717115Can someone explain why he keeps spamming this like it's some kind of gotcha? >>728717337Yeah they are but I only pirate ROMs if I think the port/remaster/remake is inferior which is 50/50 for me.
>>728717449That or the game is stuck on a console
>>728717449somber french music starts playing
>>728717590You already said that but can you explain why you keep posting it?
>>728717657*somber french music starts playing then fades out*
>>728717657Not him, but I chuckle at it.
>>728717782Same but I'm starting to think it's a bot albeit a broken one at that.
>>728717178I played the demo a bit. It's fun but it doesn't feel like it really gives you time to do much.
>everyone but me is a bot>somber french music starts playing then fades out
>>728716421haven't played it but underwaterrayromano is alrightjust play the ps2/psp version of the original on the hardest difficulty. avoid the remake, it's nowhere near as fun2-3 are alright but 2's a bit too simple and easy.
>>728718160I remember playing the original game back when the anime came out and liking it. I should probably give that a rewatch at some point.
>>728717768*street shitting starts playing*
>>728717337they need to justify it now which is weirdNobody used to ever do that shit. I buy a ton a games, but I also use M***** on the daily and I feel zero need to justify it.I want to play old games, they are too annoying, expensive, and hard to find, so I take themSimple as
>>728718716>MMyrient
>>728718565AND THE BEST COUNTRY AWARD GOES TOEXPEDITION 33somber french music starts playing
>>728718802hey don't come crying to me when the zoomers rape it like they did Vimms, retard
>>728718993*street shitting starts playing*
>>728719043They're so retarded they will not stop until Tik Tok kids get every good site shut down and all that's left is private trackers and Discord servers and they deserve it for needing to brag about piracy
>>728719043Vimms is still around thougheverbeit?
>>728719067somber french music starts playing
>>728719193*street shitting starts playing*
Is this worth watching?
>>728719190>sharteen is retarded as fuckWOW what a surprise
>>728719259I remember people being pissed.
>>728715529well, my view of tales is tainted by phantasia and destiny which were fucktarded with the whole removing control of your character after every attack FOR NO REASON until you reach an arbitrary point 3/4ths of the way through the game where you can finally remove that retarded shit, i have no desire to play the rest due to that
>>728719352Ok so? NoPayStation is another source. Not to mention hshop for 3DS that's linked from Myrient. Cry harder.
>>728715940it's because the actual saga team did emerald beyond, where as rots was done by some random outsourced studio
>>728719373that was wolf team and they kept on doing it...with star oceangive eternia a try. just play it for a few minutes and set things to manual
>>728719446hey so your site owner uses your PC to mine bitcoin, you dumb as fuck genetic waste of space
>>728719259Watch the real adaptation instead
>>728719637Also to add fitgirl, gog-games(dot)to and nxbrew are other good sources. There's also stuff on nyaa and archive, too. :)
wow piracyfags are annoying. idek what type of gotcha this guy is trying
Thanks for the free games, CHADanon.
>>728719731Yoshihiko was fun but the last season was really degenerate for some reason, it's like they changed the writer for one that preferred low brow humor.
>>728719772oh shit and you're getting crypto mined from other shitty pirate sites toopoor shartytard LOL
>things that never happenedGatekeep status? Failed
>>728720108and now he's so mad he's doing the "reply without quoting" passive-aggressive woman shitWhat would Cobson think, you wojak obssessed faggot? I don't even know why you losers come here since you always just get BTFO and go crawling back to your shithole.
Thanks for the (you) ;)Stay mad forever :3
>>728720334>and now smileysoh dang, he's MAD lmao. It's like we went down the assmad checklist
>now xhe's projecting
I might get dq11S because I heard there's a bunch of extra content. I only 100% the base game when it first launched. God I fucking hope dq12 is good and not action combat
some people see friendly in the title and feel compelled to contradict that in the strongest poasible way
another sharteen denied
>>728720590this is going to shock you but some people come here from other places with the express purpose of acting retarded. The solution is to not reply to them, and I admit I am guilty of stooping to it sometimes.Even "laughing at a retard" is giving them what they want; attention.
>>728720495S is important because you can fuck veronica
OP here, I just wanted to have a friendly thread about my favorite gaming genre. Is that too much to ask for?
>>728720968to be honest I am shocked you don't get that guy who spams about RPGs ruining gaming in every thread in here
>>728705217I have never seen a bigger DQ larp than this post, you guys can just not talk about DQ, it's fine, nobody plays these games anyways.To go over the issues though.>1&2 - "older switch version modded with better sprites"Doesn't exist and is a retarded suggestion.>3 - mobile version or the remakeWhy this remake and not 1&2's remake, and why the fucking phone version here but not for 1&2.>4 - snesDQ4 doesn't even have a SNES version.>6 - snesDid 6's SNES TL even get finished?>7 - some bullshit about PSX and 3DSThey're completely different games>8 - "fan-made mobile remaster"Why are you suggesting this, which I don't even know if that exists, instead of just 3DS with the fan patch.>8 - PS2 undubbed8 doesn't have JP VO.Awful, simply awful, stick to FF.
>>728720968make it the "hostile jrpg thread" next time. do some reverse psycho. /v/ loves being contrarian.
>>728721073He was here earlier but he fucked off, I guess.
I'm playing octopath 0 right now, why does the game flow like a fucking gacha game
>>728721170Because it was a gacha game
>>728721170it's literally a repackaged gacha game.
I am in the beginning of Shining Force 3 - Scenario 1 (Disk 1). So far it's pretty average but I've seen so many people say how it's a seminal tactics RPG so I'm going to hang in there assuming it'll hook me
SaGa remasters tend to be good but i haven’t played SF2 yet and haven’t kept up with what people have said about it. Is it a good remaster or should I play the original? I remember being drawn to the original as a kid because of its art style but I didn’t have the money to play it. The upscaling doesn’t look bad from a cursory look. Any issues with game balance? Sometimes when games get remastered they add content that fucks up the experience. FTR Minstrel Song Remaster is one of my favorite games of all time.
>>728721667Play the SF2 Remaster, it's done extremely well and adds some needed QoL features over the OGI have no complaints about it
>>728721667I hear nothing but good things about 2 Remastered
>>728720495The extra content is pretty nice but it might not be worth it if you don’t already want to replay the game. IMO the extra story stuff at the end of Act 1 is fun but kinda stupid and actually makes the story a little worse, but if you’ve already played the game that doesn’t matter.
>praising demastersyou are what's wrong with the gaming industry
Any recommendations before I start my playthrough of Xenogears?
ignore it>>728721667It's great. People say SaGa games sometimes have terrible stories but that game 100% does not, and the Remaster is good. The QoL is nice and it's as hard as the original.
>>728721115>DQ4 doesn't even have a SNES versionthis never made sense to me, THE ONE SINGULAR GOOD DQ is the only one to not get a super famicom port? the fuck was enix smoking in the 90s?
>>728721170>does he know?.youtube thumbnail
>>728721825>>728721885Thanks anons. I generally trust Kawazu.>>728721924Not trying to pick a fight, but please elaborate on what is wrong with it. I am open to being convinced, many remasters suck by SaGa remasters have been good. However if you’re just baiting congrats on your >>You
>>728722043it's my favorite RPG of all time and I did a play through during Covid which was my first in a long time, and it held up for me.I do want to try it with the Perfect Works mod next time though, when I replay it in like 2-3 years.
>>728721115I agree with you, I wrote that in a hurry and got a bunch of things wrong but here's my explanation:>Doesn't existIt does, I was talking about this one: https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/dragon-quest-switch/ with this mod https://gbatemp.net/threads/dragon-quest-sprite-overhaul-mod.550383/ there's one for DQ2 too>Why this remake and not 1&2's remakeI haven't played those remakes yet and haven't seen if people liked it, my bad, but if it's as good as the 3 remake I recommend it>and why the fucking phone version here but not for 1&2Because the mod restores the sprites that look significantly better from the phone version to a version that doesn't force you to use mobile UI, but afaik the modder gave up on 3>DQ4 doesn't even have a SNES version.>Did 6's SNES TL even get finished?>8 doesn't have JP VOYeah, I'm retarded, my bad>Why are you suggesting this, which I don't even know if that exists, instead of just 3DS with the fan patch.It does exist https://sites.google.com/view/dq8mr it's basically the 3DS version but better, I personally don't like the 3DS version because of no random encounters and things like worse visuals
>>728722198If there's one man in the gaming industry you can put your faith in, it's Kawazu
>>728721667it's good unless seeing ai upscaled backgrounds sends you into a seething fit of rage that causes you to have a fucking forthing at the mouth seizurethankfully, literally all i care about is gameplay no matter what, so i am immune to such blathering retsrdation that secondaries are invariably prone to
>>728722043no, experience it blind.
>>728722043Perfect works mod
>>728721667I have only two complaints about it.>Some backgrounds got upscaled rather badly>I don't like the new NG+ Gustave scenariosEverything else is what you would expect from a SaGa Remaster, tons of fixes, lots of welcome QoL like speed up, a new combo repeat mode and combo library function for Duel mode, better UI that follows the original's aesthetic, a lot of new scenarios that fill a lot of gaps and give some neglected characters more screentime, better NG+ with new challenging content for minmaxers and overall untouched core content and the customary option to play vanilla without any of the new additions if you want.Some existing scenarios also got touched up a bit to include new additions like Flynn being actually playable during the mushroom cave scenario in Gustave's childhood, overall it's the high quality that you would expect from the SaGa team and well worth buying.They fully even integrated the Pocketstation minigame into it and expanded upon it so you can have three diggers working at the same time instead of just one.
Saga is such a shit franchise idk how you retards love it so much
>>728721872Meant to respond to you in my post. Thanks!>>728722087Thanks. The central conceit of picking different points of history to play is really cool and I’m surprised I haven’t seen that done much.>>728722286Pic related.
>>728722565I feel the same way about Trails AND Tales but taste is subjective so I don't sperg out at them.
>>728722313Damn, I'm glad I'm not as tasteless as you.
>>728722243I disagree with most of your recommendations but I’m with you on DQ8. The 3DS additions are bad for the most part. The game is balanced around you having the same 4 party members in every battle, so the new ones throw it off. Plus random encounters are better and the graphics are much better. It’s a really beautiful game. Play the PS2 version.
>>728722807Agreed those are also shit but saga edges those out for being somehow worse.
>>728716370It's surreal to me they lost original assets for FF9. Moguri it is.
>>728722910I love how the 3DS version absolutely fucks the balance by giving post-game rewards to the player super early and retards write it off as """QoL""".
>>728722087It's more like story is never in the first place for SaGa games. Arguably not even the characters.
>>728695783Perhaps sora no kiseki 3rd but they never go on sale for less than $20 which is frustrating. Still, I've enjoyed the first two
>>728722473you forgot two critical facts1. it has a sound test and 2. it has the ability to maintain audio playback when out of window focuswhich means you get to use it as a music box to listen to the peak hamauzu soundtrack plus the additional tracks that square did for the remaster once you unoock them
>>728723214Or I can download the songs and listen to them like a normal person.
>>728723214I took those for granted because we've had them since Frontier Remastered.
>>728722662>he filtered millions
>>728719731fucking hell. thanks for reminding me.
>>728723160this is such a retarded cope, the only saga game that you could argue has anywhere near a "bad" story is rs1 and that's only if you look at it through the extremely retarded reductionist mouthbreathing faggot lens of "hurrr durr good guys go to kill saruin" while simultaneously disregarding every single thing that goes on leading up to that and especially disregarding each of the main character's own individual stories
>>728723263>retard thinks mp3s have infinite loopingthe redditzoomer invasion of this board has been an unmitigated disaster
>>72872301670% of the time you can instantly throw out someone’s opinion whenever they bring up “QoL” when talking about a video game, especially a JRPG, super doubly especially when it’s a remaster or remake. It’s up there with “grindy” as far as losing all meaning.
>>728723532I never said it was bad, anon. Just that it's not the primary draw.
>>728695783>friendly jrpg thread>look inside>not friendlythis is why we can't have nice things
>>728723642100% of the time you can instantly throw out someone’s opinion whenever they bring up remasters” and never ever EVER reply when asked what about them is a "demake", especially a JRPG, super doubly especially when it’s a popular or well regarded remaster or remake. They hem and haw but never answer the question.
>>728696626>5 in S-tierAbsolute patrician taste
>>728724442Make a hostile jrpg thread next time to harness the power of this board's contrarianism
>>728723624>>retard thinks mp3s have infinite loopingmpv --loop ffccost.cue
>>728712162fft also has more fun factor, you just dont have to suck
>>728723624They've had that for decades.>mp3Pleb.
>>728724542nono he's a retard who thinks the 0s and 1s will magically disappear with each playback
>>728724495>>728724495Sure but I’m not the anon complaining about “demakes” and not elaborating. Some remasters are good but a lot of people think removing interesting mechanics or fundamentally altering the gameplay are simple “QoL” additions.
>>728725006>removing interesting mechanics or fundamentally altering the gameplaygoing to need examples because that DQ remake that cut a lot of shit is the only one I can think of, and I don't regard that one as good
>>728723532Most people can't get behind SaGa's storytelling because it's too dry and it's an old school show-don't-tell business where you actually do things rather than read about things you should be doing.The contrarianism about this is so bad that people also complain about SSG and EB doing the opposite and being actually wordy and handholdy as fuck when it comes to the writing so you literally cannot miss any implications or nuance.At this point it's just a doomed series in the west and for the casual audience, they can only sorta like it when it explicitly stops being what it is like with the remake of RS2 that got turned into as much of a generic JRPG as humanly possible and a lot of old time SaGa fans excited to play their first SaGa game appeared all of a sudden and hailed it as an amazing game despite retaining extremely little of the original game's identity.
>>728696626shit list>STACTICSLIGHTNING RETVRNSI (PSX)IV (DS)BRAVELY SECOND: END LAYER>AVTACTICS ADVANCEIXXIX-2XIIIII (PSX)III (DS)STRANGER OF PARADISEXII>BVIIITA2VIXXIII-2>CVIIXV>FXVIXIV
is hating on VII a new meme or something
>>728725553Where do you think you are? /v/niggers are contrarian as fuck. VII is excellent and that's it.
Which genre has the most hipsters? JRPG is probably in the top three, two even
>>728722210I played it this summer for the first time and it became my favorite game of all time
As far as JRPGs go, I’ve only played some FFs, Kingdom Hearts, SMT, Nier, Expedition 33 and a little bit of Phantasy Star 2. What JRPGs should I try if I want to broaden my horizons and play ones that are really interesting? I feel as though I need to get into JRPGs more than I currently am.
>>728725831JRPG is top 1. I love the genre, but the community is the worst I've had the displeasure of interacting with.
>>728725831number 1, nobody else comes close
>>728725831character action, people can't even accept the genre exists
>>728725831What do you mean by hipsters? Like posers?
What do you do in this situation?
>>728725205Which DQ remake are you talking about? I was directly responding to a post about the DQVIII remake, which I think is bad. I also think the DQVII remake for 3DS is pretty flawed. I prefer random encounters for both games. I am not a huge Tactics Ogre fan so I can’t speak in granular detail but TO Reborn (which I played recently) has lots of changes to unit growth and game balance. I do not have a strong opinion on it as I have not finished the two versions of the game I have played, but they are substantially different. These things are ultimately a matter of opinion but I am lamenting that often anons, critics, etc just sweep changes like this under the rug as “QoL” and objective improvements when that is not always the case.
>>728726083I thank Ershin
>>728725553I don't like VII. It's too easy and the remakes suffer from modern game design friction.
>>728724542not sure what you think that is or does, but i'm sorry that happened to you
>>728726337Cool, a minority opinion.
>>728725376>At this point it's just a doomed series in the west and for the casual audience, they can only sorta like it when it explicitly stops being what it isthat's literally the case for the entire jrpg genre, which is why the opinions of the casual audience are irrelevant, because they neither pkay videogames nor do they have functioning brains
>>728725937onoy two of those are even jrpgs, so i recommend you stay as far away from the genre as possible since you clearly neither like nor understand the very first thing about them to begin with
>>728726429VII is a massively hyped game to the point where it’s not going to click with everyone. I suppose one of the strengths of FF is that each game is so different that everyone is bound to like at least one of them.
>>728726626Wrong but okay.
>>7287255537 was the start of retards thinking jrpgs are supposed to be moviegames instead of gamegames, even fucking beyond the beyond was less a moviegame (and not for lack of trying, had camelot had the ability and reources to do so, then it would 1000% have been a shitty moviegame """"""""""jrpg"""""""") and more of an actual jrpg than ff7
>>728726573They are all JRPGs
>>728726626why does "the hype" even matter? If you didn't play it when it came out your opinion doesn't mean shit if you are influenced so easily.
>>728726839JRPGs can be many things, some are story first, others are gameplay first. Variety it's good.
>>728726843wrong. again, stay away from, jrpgs because you do not even know what the first thing about a jrpg is
>>728726839FF has been pushing for a cinematic angle since FFIV. 7 just marked the point where they were no longer wrestling with massive tech limitations as much to achieve that.
>>728726948wrong you don't know what a JRPG is clearly
>>728726948Japanese-like RPG
>JRPG thread>Look inside>It's just schizos fighting each other
>>728726931incorrect. for all games no matter what genre, gameplay is all that matters, everything else is for tertiary monkeys who want to ook ook and aah aah at everything that doesn't require critical thinking skills
>>728727006Just like in my JRPGs!
>>728726839JRPGs have been pushing for more anime like approaches since 4th gen.>Inb4 they don't countJust because they were Japanese only (for the vast majority of them) doesn't diminish it
>>728727002>t. dumb nigger who thinks arpgs are jrpgs
>>728727042>see thread called "comfy jrpg thread">come in it and post this zoomer faggotbabblei hope you get skinned alive
>>728727120Yup you don't know anything lmao
>>728727095incorrect. you fail to understand just how beyond the pale 7 was because you weren't even born untik after it came out, you were probably named after cloud, you little fucking zoomer faggot
>>728726337>It's too easyWelcome to Final Fantasy.
>>728727123>zoomers>caring about or even being able to understand what gameplay ispick one and only one, for all eternity
>>728727280>untikGood morning saar.Also, I was actually there. Cope harder buddy. FF7 was just following in the footsteps of FF6 which was already being praised more for it's story than anything else
>>728727297I feel like Square have tried to wrestle with the difficulty question multiple times in FF games. Part of me feels like 8’s level scaling and Junction system was a direct response to how piss easy 7 was. Sure, 8 can be broken easily too, but you have to master the system to break it.
>>728727352>implying it's not zoomshitters who love to shit on turn-based games
>>728727514>you have to master the system to break it.No you fucking do not. 8 is way easier even if you follow the "intended" progression.
>>728726337>It's too easyIt's 2025 soon to be the fucking year of our lord twenty-twenty-six. There are a variety of hard mode mods for 7.
>>728727378at least you admit that 7 was just a retardified rehash of 6 with shittier combat and mechanics, however the supposed opinions of unsourced people are irrelevant, the only thing that matters is gameplay, which 6 has in spades over 7
>>728728170>the only thing that matters is gameplay, which 6 has in spades over 7Lmao, they're about equal, both are flawed in terms of gameplay. If you wanted gameplay fag over FF. At least pick 5
>>728727574newfag, learn to read implicationtext and/or english
>>728728170>Ultima spam
>>728727807>muh modsYou're even more retarded than he is.
>>728702046100% next year. Wish there was more, but seems unlikely.
>>728727614then why do so many secondary moviegame-loving shitters praise 7 to the moon and shit on 8?
>>7287282385 sucked ass>muh jobswere shit and shittily implemented and also a rehash of 3 anyways
>>728728414Bait used to be believable
>>728727514>but you have to master the system to break it.You really don't, mostly because the level scaling itself is poorly implemented.First off, the game scales level by using a calculation that takes the party's entire levels and then churns out an average range, given how you can only use three characters out of six at a time and three of those are going to get benched hard and miss tons of EXP. you're already outrunning the scaling at a baseline because nobody in their right mind will grind to keep all six characters at an even level.Secondly, even if you're deranged enough to do this the level scaling has hard caps for both world zones and especially on bosses, so you won't see much going past the level 40-50 range at all even in the endgame, which means again, you're outrunning things fairly easily.Lastly, by simply figuring out the basics in junctioning spells (The spell that boost magic defense is the best for your M-DEF and the spell that makes you act faster is the best for SPD, how arcane!) you add another layer of issue for the level scaling to the point that the game cannot, at any point catch up to you statistically and this is just the tip of the iceberg of what's wrong with FF8's systems, this is really just raw math without looking into how the enemies are designed (protip: poorly) or how the battle system is even more skewed in favor of limit break spam than FF7 since now you don't even need to fill a bar, you can just stay at low HP or use an easily farmable spell to have constant limit break on demand, with Squall and Zell being absolute DPS monsters that can do six digit damage total at zero costs every turn they get.
>>728728414>5 sucked asskys, why is /v/ always filled with the dumbest fucking subhumans?
>>728728274an optional spell which you cannot even get until the end of the game is powerful, that clearly invalidates the entire rest of the game leading up to that!kill yourself you retarded tertiary nigger
>>728728485because you come here, which drops the median iq by 3 standard deviations
>>728728414>Shits on 7 for having more focus on story>Shits on 5, the game loved for its gameplayHere, take my (You)
>>728728474>easily farmable spellThat certainly doesn't apply to Aura.
>>728728627loved by retards for its gameplay, maybe, that doesn't make it good
>>728728327NTA, but VIII is genuinely a more complicated game that demands more from the player to understand it on both a gameplay and story level.I don’t like to say “you need a high IQ to understand this game”, but I think it applies to VIII. Compare it to VII, which is mainly a “stop the evil corporation” plot with a Darth Vader-type villain where your main motive to kill him is to avenge the death of a cute girl. It’s very blockbuster-like and mainstream friendly. Meanwhile, VIII is just straight up surrealism.
>>728728758There's multiple points in the game where you can farm monsters for it even if you don't want to refine Power Wrists.Worst still, Mighty Guard also gives Aura to the whole party on top of Haste, Float, Shell and Protect so you technically don't even need to farm it that hard.
GET THIS GUY OUTTA HERE
>>728717950The intro is pretty much entirely linear, but once you push Kzinssie's shit in you can go basically anywhere and do whatever you want in any order. Some people get intimidated by the time skips but they don't really matter much
>>728728836that's irrelevant to the gameplay though
>>728717950saga games, starting from the first one but especially starting with romancing saga 1, are meant to be replayed many timesof course, such a thing is impossible for tertiaries to wrap their smooth pea brains around, for them jrogs are movies where you get to occasionally and inconsequentially press a button
call me retarded but why is there no sex mods in jrpgs? not nude mods but actual sex stuff
>>728728474Having underlevelled or overlevelled party members doesn’t really matter that much in VIII outside of drop rates. Plus, several sections force you to play as different characters anyway. You have to use all the party members at some point to beat the game.
>>728728324>noooo don't fix my game it ruins the developer's vision!!!also>this game sucks waaaahhhdouble nigger
GET THESE GUYS OUTTA HERE
>>728729475not to mention you had to keep all of your retinue on parity in the two previous games anyways, so by 8 it was an understood convention
>>728729045Mighty Guard is late game shit dummy.Instead of fucking with Aura the braindead solution is to boost your max HP with Curaga.
and also in wizardry 1 you needed to keep basically everyone in your tavern on parity with your strongest party, because if your main/strongest party fucking DIED then you needed to have 4-5 (or 3 if you're that foolhardy) other motherfuckers to be able go down into the fucking dungeon WHERE THEY FUCKING DIED in order to recover their individual corpses 1-2 AT A TIME and having just 1 rescue team isn't enough because if your rescue team gets paralyze fucked to death then you're caught with your pants completely downnot that zoomers would ever know about such things
>>728729720True, though I feel VIII handled it mostly better than the previous two. Because VIII only has 6 party members and there’s a lot of moments where the party has to split up into teams, it significantly reduced the odds of characters getting perma-benched. Meanwhile, VI had about 16 different party members and there’s a good number of them that I literally NEVER used.
On the topic of SaGa, I've played a few of them but hated the time skip system on Romancing 2. Is 3 like 2 but without time leaps? And how's the gameplay in Frontier 2? I've heard the recent games get praised a lot for the gameplay but all of the designs and visual direction looks too bad for me to get invested.
>>728730026you did use them though, in kefka's tower, you were forced to
>>728730280You can finish the game only with Setzer, Celes and Sabin
>>728730195rs3 does not involve timeskips, neither does rs1 aka minstrel song (however rs1/minstrel song very much does involve "the passing of time" as measured by how many battles you have fought in, but it doesn't do the generational thing of rs2)if you can't standnthe visual design of saga frontier 2 then don't bother, the gameplay is good but it won't be for you if visual affect your experience, they don't affect mine, the only thing that affects my experience is gameplay, simple as
you're the biggest hypocrite if you hate certain ff and then like others.
>>728730570tell me you haven't played any ff's without telling me you haven't played any ff's
>>728730463>if you can't standnthe visual design of saga frontier 2 then don't botherThe visual design of SF2 is specifically why I want to play it. It's the 2 recent new ones that look horrible between the maps and characters designs.
>>728730570hy·poc·ri·sy/həˈpäkrəsē/nounnoun: hypocrisy; plural noun: hypocrisies the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense.????????????????
>>728730725you heard me
>>728730897sorry, i misread that, then yeah as long as ai upscales of handdrawn backgrounds don't send you into a conniption, and you can deal with its semi-split semi-generational structure, then saga frontier 2 remaster should be good for you, assuming you can into saga gameplay
The next two replies under this one will kiss together
OP please don't make another thread once this one dies
Should I buy Expedition 33?
>>728731378Yes
>>728731378somber french music playing
>>728731378No
>>728731378It’s a good westernised take on a JRPG. It doesn’t do anything groundbreaking, but it executes its concept very well.
>>728731192>semi-generational structureIs it going to shoot me 100 years into the future because I hit an arbitrary event counter limit, kill off my party, and potentially ruin sidequests I was in the middle of?
>>728730374True, but you haven't.
>>728730195Only RS2 has timeskips, RS2 is wholly unique in its structure and no other SaGa game is like that.>Is 3 like 2 but without time leaps?Outside of sharing a similar battle system and core ruleset, no.It's a more refined RS1, you have eight main characters with their separate stories, endings and gimmicks there, the nonlinear progression is still there but RS3 is a lot more open ended and less guided than RS2, it also has way less choices when it comes to quest branching so it's easier to play.>And how's the gameplay in Frontier 2It's the weakest in the modern series as Frontier 2 is a game that focuses more on the story, it has some good ideas but the execution is so so and the game is very easy outside of the extra content in the remaster that actually forces you to understand what you're doing, they were mostly betatesting stuff for future games.You shouldn't diss SSG or EB anyway, they're really good RPGs.
>>728731378I bought it day 1 and couldn't put it down for months, and now I'm about to start the DLC.
>>728727297Old FF games don't really have a difficulty problem. Even IV and VI can remain engaging though VI really needed a 3D remake by the DS FF3/4 guys. IX has an adaptable difficulty that shows itself when you speedrun the game, it runs on the same grinding-is-your-difficulty-slider principle that FFT did. X-2 is pretty complex. Even a "braindead" game like XIII alternates between 5 second game overs and autoing everything to death, and those late game bosses are a filter for a good deal of people...FF never really *had* a difficulty problem until VII and VIII came along. I appreciate VIII for at least trying, but it's still kusoge. Like all good kusoge it has heart, but it is one, nonetheless.
>>728729969I never figured out how to keep main and side parties on par in EO desu Though grinding mining spots for money and making do with equipment to get the second team just competent enough for dungeon runs but not completely competent as to beat bosses was how I did itthe game would've been fun with a rescue system where you had to dig deeper for corpses and lost loot
>>728731702You are so bad at games it'd be impressive if it wasn't so sad.
>>728719360yeah, because it's some dude doing a VR sim and fucking about with unusual choices for a new playthrough, before fighting an evil virus overtaking the sim, if i remember right. for a game with some of the most quintessential legacy for JRPGs in all of japan, fucking about like that was probably not the best idea in a big theater film "adaptation".
>>728695783>what SINGLEPLAYER games are you BUYING good one anon
>>728731572How is 3 open ended but with fewer quest solutions? >You shouldn't diss SSG or EB anyway, they're really good RPGs.Don't care how good the battle system is. Presentation matters, especially with JRPGs, and they look horrible.
>>728731523no, but the game is split up into little vignette scenario sections which does involve a somewhat rotating cast of characters, however the "downsides" of that are mitigated heavily in the remaster via the inheritance system that was added to it
>>728732092that is a good point, a wizardry style dead party retrieval system would have made etrian odyssey 1 more exciting, but considering when it was made, there was no way fatlus was going to do that when they knew kids would just savescum a party wipe anyways
>>728732178Multiplayer games suck
>>728732538but you can't pirate them like singleplayer games which was my unstated point
>>728732586I only pirate console exclusives
>>728732228RS2 simply has a lot of possible quest routes and endings which also tie into the general progression.At the time a lot of people felt overwhelmed by the complexity so they dialled that down in the following games and as a result most of the quests in RS3 are linear, you still do have branches and choices to make here and there but nowhere as much as RS2, on the other hand the MCs tend to have their own specific interactions and gimmicks within the game world so some MCs can do things other MCs cannot, like recruiting certain characters, having access to unique quests, functions or minigames, which isn't a thing in RS2.>Presentation matters, especially with JRPGs, and they look horrible.To each their own I guess, maybe one day you'll change your mind about it.
>>728733354>RS2 simply has a lot of possible quest routes and endingsFrom what I played, I was pretty underwhelmed with quest options and endings specifically because the game was talked up like having cRPG design sensibilities in a JRPG, but that wasn't the case at all.>maybe one day you'll change your mind about it.And maybe one day you'll stop trying to be casually condescending because you've got the idea in your head that you're an enlightened hardcore game connoisseur.
>>7287116451-3 gbc2-hd4-ps15-ps26-sfam7-11 ps58-3ds9-dsixl10 never ever
>>728733614The only one acting like an enlightened hardcore game connoisseur here is you anon, and you're doing it bitterly and with no ground to stand on
>>728734040>The only one acting like an enlightened hardcore game connoisseur here is you anonNo, that'd be the guy who thinks he was cleverly and subtly sneaking in "maybe one day you'll grow out of that opinion" comment.
Nuke this dogshit threadJRPG threads were a mistake
>>728733614you played very little then, and made a generealized conclusion based on your extremely limited amount of playing the game
>>728734467>you played very little then,I played for 30-something hours and went through 5 or 6 generations.
>>728734285If you thought I was being clever with you it only highlights how much you innately look down on others when I was simply giving you an impassionate opinion on simple matters while acknowledging your own opinion, it was an encouragement if anything but clearly you're not here to have an actual conversationI guess one can't expect much from pseudo /jrpgg/ on /v/ after all.
>>728734550So you didn't even finish a single playthrough and you think you can have a valuable opinion on the game's content? Really?
>>728734643>while acknowledging your own opinion, it was an encouragementNo it wasn't. You can stop pretending you were being genuine as it's not going to fool anyone.>>728734815Yes, I think that doing a bunch of quests and trying different things out in them means I can have an opinion on how those quests are laid out in terms of progression. But feel free to tell me which quests really open up with options similar to how cRPGs do things that I'd need to finish a few different runs to see.
>>728734550so basically you failed every quest and didn't even finish one playthrough, lol
>>728735083>so basically you failed every questNope. The only one I failed was the mermaid quest because I was doing it while doing some other things and then the generation leap triggered with no way to avoid it. That was when I looked up how the generation leaps were triggered and realized what a stupid design choice it was. To complete that specific quest, you basically need to start it immediately at the beginning of a generation and always prioritize it because otherwise the counter will move too far forward and you can't continue it in the next generation. But somehow there's a quest with siblings in a tower that don't age and are still waiting for you if you jump ahead in generations. Very nonsensical and downright stupid design.
oh, I thought this was the JRPG thread and not the seethe at JRPGs thread. I'll be on my way to look for the one where people enjoy them
>>728695783I think xenoblade chronicles 2 and fire emblem TH
Are those classic Final Fantasy pixel remakes worth grabbing or should I just stick to emulating the originals?
>>728697215CHAOS/20
>>728735952they have really good music (https://youtu.be/X-tgg8rglXA) but like all versions of the game since the original (since the GBA port), FF6 is censored, don't know about the others.I honestly think playing the SNES version with the Atma Weapon mod (lets you pick and choose a lot of stuff) is best but it's not like the pixel remaster is bad. Just wanted to be up front that Celes getting beat and female pixel asses were censored.
When there's a jrpg with a character creator I'll play them
>>728736390Metal Max (you won't play it)FF5 (you won't play it) Dragon Quest 9 (you won't play it)Octopath 0 (you won't play it and it's bad)lots of others but I'm not going to list a bunch of games some shitposter isn't going to play, I just wanted to dunk on you. Which I have.
>>728736610>Metal Maxfuck year
>>728736610any ones where I can be a girl besides dq9
>>728737470no interest in helping a troon out, sorry
>>728737576not a troon just a goon
>>728735841 Nah, this is the JRPG thread, it just happens to be the part where we acknowledge that some of them have mechanics held together with duct tape and denial. If you're only here for pure praise and hugs, might wanna check the fanfic board instead.
what are some cool ds rpgs/srpgs/arpgs?I have twewy, knights in the nightmare, infinite space and dqix in my backlog currently
>>728738093nah, you're here to shitpost and I hope both your legs get broken by a truck
Finished xenoblade 1de and 2 a few years ago. Should I play 3 or X next? I could also replay 1 or 2
>>728695991Ya know when you aggressively make the first post in tons of threads on that specific game, it doesn't foster a better opinion of it here it makes people fucking hate your blatant ongoing marketing-campaign faggot-ass pajeet
>>728738604only jeets hate the game with an all white cast where the main theme is family, so fuck right off Sukhdeep
>>728738515X rocks
If all E33 haters played E33 they'd be cured of their anti-E33 retardation.
>>728738894they don't play any video games though, so that's off the table
>>728699929OT1 is still a solid game and I wouldn't want to go back to it after 2. OT0 is different enough to feel like a lateral move from OT2 instead of being inferior, although it is a worse game.
I want to get Trails the 1st as well as Lunar Remastered. Gung Ho is getting my cash .
>>728738961argh true instead they just eat shit and shitpost all day
>>728739008I'm still waiting for a little discount on trails
>>728738894It's a pretty good game. Not worth the hate. I wish I liked timed input battle systems more.
>>728739126I think it's a great game but not 'the best RPG ever'. I wanted to say overrated, but that feels like the wrong word because it IS quite good
>>728739126Same, actually. I'm willing to give lost odyssey and the legend of dragoon a chance now.
>>728739195The phrase you're looking for is "GOTY 2025".
>>728739214I tried to emulate LO a few days ago and it has so many errors and workarounds that it wasn't worth it for me. I saw people getting hardlocks that wiped their saves and that made me nope out. I am keeping my eye open for a cheap console so I can play it eventually
>>728739287nah that was Anbiotic Factor for me if XCX:DE doesn't count
>>728739367I didn't have any issues running it on my Steam Deck. Emudeck does most of the heavy lifting.
>>728739406>friendslop
>>728739435game hardlocks in 3-5 places in the game and you have to use a workaround, up to you if you want to gamble with your 20-50 hour save fileI didn't
>>728739528>sloptard
>>728739570If you're going to slap GOTY on something at least act like you're being serious
>>728739653if you're going to type at least try to do so like a human being and not a 14 year old buzzword regurgitating Discord sub-human
>>728739089You think they can add a cheeky 20% off or is it too soon for that?
>>728739653>NOOO YOU HAVE TO PICK THE GOTY GEOFF DID OR YOU'RE TROLLINGlol oh wow
>>728739709>N-no u
>>728739745>dogpiling
>>728739769That's not even what "no u" means you fucking retard You fail at even using buzzphrases correctly, and that one is ancient so you have no excuse.
>>728739195We'll see how people move on. If people are still calling it the best RPG of all time in a few years I'll start getting annoyed but I understand this is the first RPG a lot of zoomers have played.
>>728739739Hard to say. Lunar finally got a 20% discount during the BF sale, but Trails 1st Ch has sold well enough where it could warrant a discount. We'll see tomorrow.
>>728739897Nice try lol
