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Da grindan gaem. Do ya like it?
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why didnt we keep books from d2?
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>>728701807
Honestly not as much as I'd hoped, I'd do most things for cunny but I just don't really care for SRPGs.
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>>728701807
I love Disgaea, but I don't like grinding and numbers autism so I just beat the main campaign and don't bother with post game hyper grind shit. A couple of occasional trips through the item world will see you through just fine, no huge grind required.

Also, Axe Etna >>> Spear Etna
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i like throwing people. there's nothing more satisfying than 1-turning an item world floor by stacking 6 units and tossing them around
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Flat
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>>728702213
they pulled a weird "balance issue" argument, because we all know Disgaea is all about balance.
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>>728702992
We prefer the term aerodynamically gifted
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>>728701807
i liek da boxy puzzlan gaem
kinda wish they went back to disgaea 3 and 4 vibes.
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>>728701807
I like da Final Fantasy Tactics.
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>>728701807
Etna owes me three fiddy
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>>728701807
>>728702756
>>728703546
>Draw a boy
>Call it a girl
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>>728703890
You get the hell outta here, I ain't givin you tree fitty you got dam loch ness monsta!!
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>>728703936
If boys looked like Etna, I'd be the biggest faggot in the world.
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>>728701807
Why am I so flat?
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>>728701807
She looks 9.....
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>>728703936
in your dreams tranny
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>>728704217
Officer, I assure you that she is 14(hundred) and she is quite mature for her age. Mentally I mean. Physically? lol
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>>728704430
shes just a late bloomer
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>>728704217
>suddenly
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>>728701807
>Da grindan gaem
what'd you mean, I use you in my (soulful) fightin' game.
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>>728701807
What I'd like, is for them to stop being fucking stupid and put the complete edition on Steam.
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>>728704430
>Mentally I mean
That's definitely not true.
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>>728704430
>lol
i
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look at how fucking flat she is
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>>728704974
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQGmnWctlvQ
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>>728703936
she has a pussy
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>>728705124
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>>728705219
Is it high level?
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>>728701807
I've been playing Disgaea 1 since I bought it last month and I feel like it's kinda of a slog to grind, specially for Flonne and Healers, Magic is fucking op when grinded right
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SEXna
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>>728701807
It's an alright tile-based puzzle rpg
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>>728705519
She's technically 14, but the demon equivalent so multiplied by 100. However, she has the height and lack of curves of an average 11ish year old girl. Loli is a body type much more than it's an age range, ergo, Etna is a loli.

Further evidence suggesting she's a loli is being referred to as a child by adult characters, her bratty and sometimes silly attitude, the official artbook calling her a "devilish nymphette", and retarded normies saying she's not (as is often the case with lolis they're attracted to)

Evidence against her being a loli consists of her torso seemingly getting longer with each redesign, the way she dresses, and the fact that even younger variants of the character exist.
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>>728701807
Grinding my dick inside Etna
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>>728706076
It's always gay rape with you people.
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>>728704974
>I'm now reminded of Card Sagas Wars being incomplete
thanks anon......
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>>728706159
Yes, and I will bring back /l/ and the rest of the not4chan boards. Beep boop beep.
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>>728701807
IT SHOULD'VE BEEN HER
But yes I really do
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>>728705867
Meanwhile unironic lolicons keep posting unironic cp in order to "catch pedo"
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>>728706767
you know i always assumed you'd finally calmed down after you left /07/th, turns out you're just on /v/ getting even more schizophrenic
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>>728701807
I just looked at disgaea 4's requirements to 100% is it tedious as it seems?
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>>728701807
Da grindan gaem is alright.
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>>728706707
hush you, i'm glad grindan game threads haven't been perma-infected by that autism like some communities have
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>>728707194
Yes. It's still my favorite game of the bunch though, even if I'm not doing every last bit of content. Usually people bring up 1 and 5 but I think 4 strikes a balance between having a quirky cast and good enough gameplay.
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>>728707504
disturbing abdominal growth
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>>728701807
Yes, Cladun X3 to be exact. Looking at the absolute dearth of any information whatsoever on this game I might just be the only nigga on the planet playing it.
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>>728701807
I like the first game the best. Also Etna is my favorite character out of all of them, she's cute.
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>>728705694
flonne is deceptively intelligent. teach her some offense spells.
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Phantom Brave's sequel was completely forgotten, huh. I beat it and I didn't think it had the charm of the original game, but it wasn't unfun because the maps for the most part were solid. The story dragged on, though, and I played it before the bugs were (apparently) fixed. I liked the cameo scenarios and especially just the fact that other games are being represented again, which I hope carries into Disgaea 8. Really, you take the gameplay and goofy nature of Disgaea, let me use Priere and Marona, give me plenty of generics like 7 did and it'll be a good time. I dunno, I'm hopeful they don't fuck it up.
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>>728701807
Not really. Etna is sexy and all but the gameplay is pretty repetitive and boring for the most part.
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>>728708423
but deserts get extermely cold too?
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>>728701807
kinda
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>disgaea threads hijacked by discord pedo trannies
you faggots don't even play the games, off yourselves
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how it feels to jerk off to every image ITT but with the mindset that she's a petite woman
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>>728711352
I do actually, but I've posted no Etnas. There are better girls.
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>>728711402
Petite adults are hot. Women are naturally smaller and weaker and cuter than men. My wife will be a foot and a half shorter than me or I will die alone.
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Is 5 still the best one for a newcummer?
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>>728711553
my fucking man
same reason i like lilith more than morrigan but that's out of scope for an etna thread
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>>728711592
Probably. 1 is a bit dated but I loved it when I first played it, then I went to 5 and it was a lot faster with more to pay attention to. A lot more, actually, and I think most of what they throw at you can and should be avoided until after you've beaten the game. That's when you're free to get a headache.
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>>728701807
Grindan bros should I emulate ZHP or buy it?
Does the PC port change much?
It come with any art books or ost or anything?
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>>728701807
I do, that said realizing that there’s no point trying to perfect any weapon that isn’t the very best final tier made me lose some enjoyment. Do they add anything to fix that after D2?
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>>728711892
Emulate it because NIS didn't bother putting the bonus content in, and some of that's actually important for grinding. Licensing is a bitch, but it still sucks.
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Which one should I play? Start with 1? Skip to a later one?
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>>728712426
1 is the best story and 5 is the best gameplay.
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>>728712426
Try 1, if you tolerate its gameplay then stick with it. If you don't, try 5.
>>728712492
This.
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>>728706243
X... Get up... Please... We need X9...
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>>728711514
if you played why respond to that post anon? glad to see people farming sub-classes and bashing baal's head in unlike tertiaries like >728711958 that will never integrate and stand out like the faggots they are
>>728712426
the gist is that the series gets more and more QoL and depth in its mechanics with each entry, it will depend if you prefer a streamlined experience with 5 or jank (such as being stuck on a level unless you brought an emergency exit) but with the best story from 1
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>>728712058
Dang sucks the port lost content that's always a shame.
Psp emulation it is! Thanks dood
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>>728701807
I'm planning to play it this year.
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>>728712529
you vill get more classic megaman and you vill like it
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>>728701807
she's 18 right?
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>>728714637
She is significantly older than that actually
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>>728710752
That's why you hold her close a night
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>>728709465
One thing that I think NIS games have been sorely missing are crossovers. They used to act as free advertisements for their other games. Then they all became DLC, and then NIS basically stopped doing them entirely while making the DLC just be legacy Disgaea characters.
Phantom Brave 2 decided to fix that somewhat, with crossovers that were and weren't DLC, although the most interesting ones were DLC sadly, like Mad Rat or fucking Liar Princess. I really hope they tap into that lost aspect of NIS games more in the future
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>>728714898
maybe now that they don't have the "we're making models for all the old classes" excuse left, we'll get something in D7C/D8 put D7C on PC you faggots
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>>728701807
I liek mudkipz
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Why is she so flat?
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>>728714556
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>>728716367
She isn't fat enough for that image.
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>>728716875
I think a belly can be appreciated even if it isn't fat. Like a totally flat chest.
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I want Etna to pee in my mouth
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>>728701807
I like anime fan games.
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I like da ojou-sama
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Are Prinnies supposed to be a joke class?
I'm going through the first game and they don't seem to be very useful compared to everyone else.
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>>728722491
yep
you could just delete the starting prinny units if you don't want to bother with them
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>>728701807
Love it.
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>>728701807
I liked the first one but after grindan for a billion hours in a singleplayer game I don't want to play any of the others. Life's too short. I'd rather just load up ComfyUI and prompt Etna
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>>728723247
>Spear
Determined, aren't you?
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>>728722618
That would be mean since I imagine they're the ones appearing in the cutscenes.
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>>728727010
Spears are fun for moving around in the item world. You can pole vault around and get to places you normally wouldn't without being thrown. Its also neat for Magic Knight as she can poke from an extra panel away and get that chance of using a random spell too.
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>>728714637
18kg
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Why do guys find this shit sexy?
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This is now a Flonne thread
Please post Flonnes
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>>728728980
Flonne is pure!
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>>728728980
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>>728729026
Pure sexo
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If everyone had a Flonne in their life, the world would be a better place
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>>728701807
spitroasting Etna with anons
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>>728728980
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>>728729194
Probably better than Etna at this point.
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>>728730070
Delet this
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the gacha always makes me want to come back just for the cute girls costumes but i know its not worth it
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>>728729026
her red outfit is visual proof she is in fact not pure
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>>728730070
Flat Flonn and curvy Flonn between my prinny NOOOOOW
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>>728730178
Only because Seraph Lamington is a douchebag who wouldn't give her a pass at the end of D1
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hehehehheh
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Hopefully D8 will push the envelope a little

The gameplay in 7 was great other than the gimped item world. A level should always increase the stats by 1 point, that was clearly some jab by the devs who must be women or niggers now. Why stunt the player unless you have some dogshit vendetta against them? The story in 7 was just boring, cute but boring. Better than 5 which was annoying and boring, but not as good as 6 or the crown of 3.
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>>728728980
What if Flonne was all grown up?
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Which Disgaea that's available on Steam is the best?
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>>728730616
>Flonne ass
>Nep reference
You got a license for this kino?
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>>728730616
grindan butt
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>>728730705
downgrade, i dont think she would dress slutty like that
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>>728730751
1
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>>728701807
I tried getting into disgaea 1 pc, but it just wasn't for me.
I might give it another shot when i've got more free time.
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how many hours played before you're able to kill baal in disgaea the first one?
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boobs > flatties and butts
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>>728731360
Was it the story? or not a fan of the gameplay?
also i need to make more of my own webms
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>>728731402
I did it in like 70/80 in-game hours. You can do it a lot quicker if you abuse capturing.
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butts + flatties >>>>>>>>>>>> boobs
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>>728731581
Attitude is sexier
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>>728731402
I got my first Baal kill after roughly 70 hours in a playthrough, but I had played the game before starting that playthrough so I knew all the best grindan spots and how to unlock everything, but even then I wasn't optimal. It shouldn't take more than 100 hours unless you're completely inefficient and retarded though.
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>>728731515
I think I just didn't find the gameplay that enjoying, but i really liked the story and the characters and that's the primary reason I want to pick it up again.
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>>728731402
>normal human being on a first playthrough
60-100 hours
>autism supernova
3 hours
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>>728730908
but anon, that's already a slutty outfit...
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I started 4 recently. I like Valvatorez and Fenric but the rest are kinda annoying especially the president's son. Wish the story focussed less on him.
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>>728701807
>etna dies by getting raped by wario after losing on the king of /v/ tournament
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>>728732684
Hello? The CANONICAL "Etna forcefully making Wario cum" drawing?
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>play Disgaea 2
>try a solo Adell run
>there is no challenge because Adell is too strong
Jesus fuck...
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>Disgaea 3 and DD2 haven't been ported to Steam yet
Why haven't they done it yet?
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>>728732389
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>>728720652
is there a specific tag for this troublesome brat version of Etna?
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Might try to get into this game again but man I dont like SRPGs
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>>728732904
Item world might make things more interesting as he'll have to go through ten floors at a time.
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>>728733092
NISA knows it'll bomb because they'll try to charge 69.99 + DLC and nobody will buy it because you can just emulate them for free
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>>728733309
Don't worry, it's not an SRPG, it's a grindan game
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>>728720652
>Etna explicitly wasn't intended to be sexy
that man clearly lives in a different world from the rest of us
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>>728731893
Love me Flonne, simple as
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>>728733687
She clearly wasn't, though. She has no tits. Tits are hot as fuck. There's something wrong with you if you like a girl with no tits.
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i liek etna
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>>728733251
That concept art is all there is. She is called Magical Bishoujo Etna.
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>>728730359
I know he mainly did that so she could go play with her little friends in the Netherworld without needing her pendant to survive, and I think it might be temporary anyway, but I still don't like the outfit or the changes to her demeanor that much desu senpai
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>>728734374
That's a shame
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more disgaea girls should look like this
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D6 and 7 were shit.
If they ever either decide to animate team attack again, or replace team attack as a mechanic with something that actually makes sense with teh animations given, maybe the series can save itself.
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>>728734758
I think we need more pink haired gun wielders that are gold diggers. We just don't have enough of them.
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I think pink, cutesy colors and designs are gross.
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>>728734756
TAKE IT BACK
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I finished D2's story recently, I've other stuff to play before I get back to Disgaea but should I move onto d3 or d4?
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>>728730163
I deserve sex with Hanako-sama.
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>>728731893
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAoxJ8COphw
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>>728735192
Youre joking but im really glad we got someone like Pirillika
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>>728735391
>wanting adell's sloppy seconds
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>>728735467
I like the weeaboo cat too, and I'm really happy she did not get into a romantic relationship with daddy issues 2.0.
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>>728733321
>floor 9
>instakill geopanel moves
>get hit once by a gun mage
>die instantly
It's just not worth it man
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>>728734758
Honestly surprised there isn't a generic magical girl class in any of the Disgaea games.
>>728735595
Adell fucks noble gases ONLY. His sister's for turning human men into demons (prinnies).
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wuts goin on in this thred
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>>728735690
It is and that is part of the thrill, never knowing what sort of things you'll run into.
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>>728735760
jesus
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>>728735795
Flonne getting real thick.
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>>728702756
tried giving postgame autism a shot in D2 and 7 ended up feeling "thank fucking god i'm done with this bullshit" instead of feeling great after i cleared them all. seeing my witch and paizuri knight finally having big numbers feels good at first but wears off fast.
i had alot more fun starting new save file doing self imposed challenges
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>>728735760
Hanako is too dangerous of a character.
If they have her star in a game, NISA will have to make a timeline that makes sense, since she is canonically Etna's pupil, even though she never shows up after D2.
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>>728736139
If NIS were smart, they would've given Etna and Hanako their own proper spin-off game (with an Asagi mode).
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>>728736196
>if NIS were smart
NIS is in a competition with Falcom for who can be the most retarded Japanese game studio. SEGA is still the reigning champ.
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>>728736379
you underestimate square enix
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>>728736196
>would be shit in 3d
>too sexy in 2d
the world cannot handle it
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Why are sticcs so hot
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>>728720652
>Loli God Requiem reference
>Kyoufuu All Back reference
Next game will have a Mimukawa Nice Try! reference, won't it?
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>>728737998
They are the pinnacle form. A beautiful unblemished line
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>>728737998
Same reason Deserts are extremely hot even if there's nothing in there
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>tfw no Etna gf
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>tfw no Flonne gf
why live
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I NEED haratake to design another game series
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>tfw no Rozalin gf
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>>728744967
>PMS turns her into Zenon once a month
maybe it's for the best
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>>728745213
I'll just keep her pregnant forever so she never gets PMS
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>>728744967
Holy shit Etna eat a sandwich
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CHEST BAGS KEEP MOVING
THIS IS A FLAT NEIGHBORHOOD
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>>728746402
What about little tummy bags?
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>>728746457
Little tummies are precious things
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>>728735467
Pirilika is my favorite main cast member since Disgaea 4. They did such a good job with her.
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>>728702213
No idea.
They occupied a really interesting and good space, for more generalist casters, and as a good backup weapon for physical units with decent magic.
I might have understood if they were added with 5, and removed with 6, cutting work for 3D makes sense, but, cutting them just from DD2 to 5 is strange.
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>>728730908
Flonne's outfit has always been concealed slutty, anon.
It has overlap with the kinds of outfits strippers wear over the stuff they come out on stage in.
It looks super modest, then you really look at it, and realize it still exposes a lot, and is set up for easy removal.
And this has always been her character portrayal. Up front innocence and naivete, contrasted by the surprisingly resilient and savvy girl underneath. She's the mirror, foil, and contrast to Etna, who is outwardly extremely flirtatious, flippant, and experienced, but deep down is very sensitive, serious, and devoted. They're the ideal Disgaea pair. The angel that actually acts like a demon, and the demon that actually acts like an angel. You invert morality and expectations over and over, until you can't tell them apart anymore. That's just how Disgaea rolls.
Never forget. When Vulcanus came to the Netherworld to steal her pendant, and stumbled across the pornography. That was HER porn he found.
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I love Disgaea but never finish the postgame. I like that there's always more to play and progress if I feel like it. Powerleveling isn't what I've ever needed from these games
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>>728748090
>the demon that actually acts like an angel.
I'm pretty sure the things she does to Prinnies would make Jesus cry.
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>>728746457
Disgaea 6 was shit
But I miss this little gremlin
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why does her flat?
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>>728748396
Those are her outward acts and fronts.
Look at the way she acts whenever Krichevskoy comes up, or any other time it actually, truly matters, like hurling herself over the flower Flonne got turned into to protect it, when Laharl and Lamington exploded the battlefield, or when she's focused on trying to shape the kind of demon Laharl is going to become, or the way she stewards the Netherworld during the Prinny spinoffs.
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>>728748481
Because NIS has no budget for boobs, she is flat
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>>728730908
i was half joking but actual flonne is nothing like the image anon posted. and i dont like my characters "aging up"
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>>728748396
Prinnies deserve to be punished though
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This game series is made for men of culture and sophistication.
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how tf do i cheese carnage dark, i cannot be fucked grinding 10 characters all to max stats just getting 3 to 20mil took long enough
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>>728746395
Sandvich is for Heavy, not tiny bat child
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>>728731402
Playing on DS, knowing the systems, knowing the shortcuts, beating him with captures, and making decently fast progress through the story, I did it in roughly 50.
I probably could have easily done it in around 5 less, because I spent a good amount of time on vanity units that didn't really matter for actually beating the game.
I imagine, pedal to the metal, single minded focus, I could probably do it in 35-40? Not like a speedrun or anything, I don't know any tricks or have that level of autistic planning.

Basically solo the main story with Laharl and Flonne, mostly Flonne
Jump off the main progression as soon a Prinny Land and Cave of Ordeals comes up
Start capturing monsters in Priere's chapter to leapfrog up some extra bodies for base panel fights
Start capturing the monsters at Beauty Castle
Start capturing the monsters at Baal Castle
Steamroll Baal with 9999 Great Wyrms

Actually training a unit to fight him, I think a Galactic Demon would be the overall fastest route. Galactic Demons have absolutely fucked defense growth, I've had one able to just facetank Baal at like, iirc level 500ish with a couple small potato reincarnations, all dumped into bulk. The fight itself is glacial, consisting of the GD dealing tiny amounts of chip to Baal, while taking 0 in return, but it takes so much less effort to actually get the GD over the finish line I think it would more than make up for the fight taking so long. That way, you might be able to do it in 50, maybe 55. Extra few hours for any other unit. Gordon might also be a relatively fast clear, I know his specials are super duper fucked up, since they have absurd Attack scaling to account for the fact you're "supposed" to use him as a Gun unit. Put an axe or sword on him, though, and he fucks hard.
But 75-85 sounds reasonable for playing through the main story, taking your time and enjoying it, then going through the postgame stuff in a "sensible" manner.
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>>728749172
Use Rozalin and/or Celestial Host evilities to give your caster tons of extra spell range and pew pew until he dies. 20 mil stats + buffs sounds like plenty.
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>>728749172
Use Zetta & Petta. Zetta's Overload gives you +5 deployment slots, Petta's lets you double dip on Overloads, including Zetta's.
Throw chain your dudes into position, set up a super long combo to rack up the multiplier. As long as you have a few good anchors at the end of the string, you should be able to close it out pretty low stat.
You should have 15 by default, +10 from Zetta & Petta. Probably 5 guys to set up the throw deploy chain, assuming you use a wrestler to throw deploys out on turn 2, and monsters to bounce everyone there. May be able to use those monsters to help build combo, too.
Stack Sorcerers if you have no other preference, their passive will help the actual damage do a lot more.
Make sure you're running 100% crit curry, with crit damage boosting evilities and innocents (iirc the Professional actually boosts crit damage, not rate as it states).
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>>728748090
>Never forget. When Vulcanus came to the Netherworld to steal her pendant, and stumbled across the pornography. That was HER porn he found.
Really?
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Heh. Petta file
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DRPG may have technically been a shit game, but it is still a blessing.
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>>728750091
Holy fuck that's flat.
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>>728746457
Incredibly kissable, would blow raspberries until they kicked and screamed (0.2 seconds)
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>>728705949
>lewd pit pussies
>ribs visi
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Bump
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>>728705694
Put some offensive magic on Flonne, and she's the best character in the game.
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>>728706067
14 is loli so younger versions do not negate her loliness
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>>728706067
Normies getting into things not meant for them is why things are so bad now. We need gatekeeping and stratification again.
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>>728744468
Marona!
There is never any discussion of Phantom Brave and it makes me sad because it's great.
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I never played the grindan gaem, I only played phantom brave, it's probably similar enough right?
Which of them are worth playing?
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>>728753665
I want to lewd Marona.
But I can't bring myself to. I want to hug her more. She's had a hard life.
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cunny
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>>728735795
Fatnne
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>>728753732
>it's probably similar enough right?
Kinda sorta. Disgaea is grid-based and your generics don't disappear after a couple of turns.
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>>728753732
D1 casts a long shadow over the franchise. The games don't have a connected story, but pretty much every game assumes you're familiar with the concepts and characters introduced in it. Ideally you'd start there, but the gameplay's lacking a lot of QoL and there's never been a real remake. The Complete Version is just a graphics pack.

If you don't want to start there, either D4 or D5 Complete are your best bet. D5 has the best gameplay in the series but the story is pretty generic. D4 is more of a "complete package" with better writing and it has easily the most content of any game in the series, although some of the characters rub people the wrong way.
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>>728753732
Oh, should have mentioned that Makai Kingdom has gameplay that's much closer to Phantom Brave while the setting is Disgaea in all but name. So you may want to give that a shot.
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>>728754142
>graphics pack
So is Complete uglier than the original or just using AA? NTA but i've been waiting for Complete to be on sale but I might just resolve to emulate 1 if Complete is a bastardization visually
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>>728753760
You can always lewd Another Marona.
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>>728753732
Generally speaking.
1, 2, 4, and 5 are all considered "good" with relatively few detractors, with 1 or 4 generally being the reccomended starting points.
If you played Phantom Brave, you can handle the slower pace and clunk of Disgaea 1 & 2, so consider starting there. Disgaea as a series can be hard to play backwards, because of how much qol gets added over time. You don't begrudge having to pass stronger enemy bills as much, if you've never seen the cheat shop, for example.

Disgaea 3 and Disgaea Dimension 2 are a bit more controversial. I'd say they're still worth playing, but, they're also in port hell. 3 is only available on PS3 & Vita, DD2 is only on PS3.
Six is awful, even if you love every single other entry. I reccomend it only if you are prone to bile fascination.
7 is... okay. Not the worst, but, I still think worse than any of them besides 6.

As an aside, I would also reccomend looking into Makai Kingdom. It's the game most like Phantom Brave that they've made.
They also recently made a sequel to Phantom Brave. It's... okay. Flawed, I think worse than the original, but it does do some things better, I think.
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>>728754239
Complete uses the HD sprites from Disgaea 4 onwards, while the Steam release, iirc, uses the classic SD sprites, with the updated graphics for terrain/ect. For the most part, the choice between the SD and HD sprites is down to personal choice, but, any of the HD sprites made specifically for Comolete look... not so great, and they do a couple lazy remaps of later units over old ones they didn't bother spriting, leading to some bizarre visuals, like a bone dragon stinging you with its tail nub, because it was clearly overlaid over the manticore.
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>>728754239
Complete uses the HD sprite style from D4-D6. For the most part it looks fine, but the environments and even the menus haven't been updated much to compensate. Plus the devs obviously didn't feel like making new sprites of all the old classes, so some monsters have just been outright replaced with different ones so that they could reuse the D5 sprites instead. I'd argue you should just get the Steam version (which is a port of the PSP version) unless you really want to play on your Switch.
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>>728753665
Ive only played Phantom Brave for the first time a few months ago, its really great.
and then ranted about how dogshit the sequel was, it was very clearly not the same writers jesus christ
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I used to back when I was a NEET with the time to grind.
Now I'm terminally employed with a full time wagie routine and no time for anything that demands it.
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>>728754498
Thanks for the detailed replies. I will likely play the original then.
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>>728749172
Raise up Sicily to be the ultimate punching bag. I don't remember the exact build, but it's absurd what you can get away with when the enemy is all concentrated on beating the shit out of this invincible loli, letting you snipe them with magic for as long as you have to.
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>>728703546
Now that's a good pic. Playful and teasy but a bit awkward and out-of-her-depth-looking. Cheers nice one.
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>>728701807
ETNA SEX
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>>728754584
I haven't play 2 yet and I figured the writing would be pretty different but it still saddens me to hear because 1/Till We Meet Again is pretty well written.
I really loved the whole story and then the add on with Corona was great too.
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>>728754584
Oh, yeah, writing-wise Phantom Brave 2 is just awful compared to 1. It has a few redeeming qualities, but, anywhere it has any strengths over the original is in the gameplay and unit building. Even then, I think I prefer PB1 letting you make goofy wonder weapons, even if the pseudo evility system of PB2 is pretty decent.
Or WOULD be if they let you fucking reincarnate before the game was basically already over...
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>>728754284
Thanks for the info anons, I'll probably start with D1 and see how that goes, I don't tend to mind slower paced games. Thankfully I have a ps3 so I'd be able to play D3 and DD2.

>They also recently made a sequel to Phantom Brave. It's... okay. Flawed, I think worse than the original, but it does do some things better, I think.
I wasn't even aware this existed.
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>>728754815
I'll be honest and say do not bother buying it unless you really really liked the gameplay of the first game
>>728754832
Yeah somehow the newer game felt more restrictive, fusing in general kind of sucks i completely ignored the postgame. At least some of the new units were cute.
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Any other good flattie love games out there besides NIS?
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>>728755140
Ive been investing into inti creates, majogami looks promising
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>>728755140
I like the alt version of this image
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>>728755118
That's a shame. I might pirate it just to check out the gameplay but I felt 1's was already pretty good and just needed expanding on if anything.
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>>728755140
Etrian Odyssey series
>>728755215
Majogami was pretty good though your mileage will vary depending on how much you like the story/characters, art, and music. It has some good flatties. Also play Dragon Marked for Death for Witch and Oracle.
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>>728755118
Yeah
The weapon system is a bit weird to wrap your head around at first.
I think the net result is a system that's pretty engaging once you understand the moving parts, but is ultimately really, really restrictive. Most units have one or two weapons they should actually use, and deviations from that just feel bad.
Most weapons have one or two units that should actually use them, and deviating from that feels bad.
This means you either have a system where everyone has their own weapon, which, fair enough I guess, or to get at the shenanigans you can have in PB1, you need very narrow party design, or else use "standard" weapons which actually span enough niches that multiple characters can actually share weapons.

The elemental SP and base equip% of PB 1 fulfilled pretty much the same principle of weapon synergy, but was something you could, if you wanted, work around. But there's not a single thing in PB2 you can do to make, say, a sunflower work as a weapon for a fighter, even if only marginally as an option in case yiur fighter gets ahold of it.

And then actual post-game builds get kinda boring, because you're just looking for weapon synergies, stacked with whatever free spaces you have left getting the Fenrir's busted generics.
And then I can be pissed because of shit like, they made Priere dogshit, because they welded a bunch of unarmed specialist evilities to her, that are worse than the unarmed evilities you can get from generics, that Priere herself can't get, meaning she's locked into an incredibly niche build, that she's awful at because any generic can be made better at it. It's fukkin weird. Rah.
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>>728755303
...but how would you block it, dood?
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>>728755140
i need to fuck a kid so bad
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>>728755538
>Dragon Marked for Death
Huh
Looks neat.
Kinda getting symphony of the night vibes from the screenshots at least
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>>728756042
I liked it but it is a niche game and it's not for everyone so keep that in mind. The Witch class design is god-tier though and she has really fun spell casting gameplay and Oracle as well. I only played the game solo however and never touched the co-op. It's mission based and not really about exploration.
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>>728756371
Oracunny became playable? Shit. I hope it's on fitgirl or something all packed together, I'm too lazy to find nand and bios or whatever the fuck to work with whatever the fuck version of x version with y version and worst part, joining 5 discords and verifyiing to get them each, to get the emulator running
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>>728755215
Huh.
Just got violently shaken and reminded Mighty Number 9 was a thing.
But, interesting lineup all told, might have some interesting picks in there, thanks anon!
>>728755538
>Etrian Odyssey series
Riiiiight I played one of these a long, long time ago. And then the Persona one. I remember it being good. No idea how they've done post-DS though, the whole map thing probably doesn't work anywhere else.
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Underrated flattie
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Etna is too sexy
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Why does the shitty gacha get infinite sprite outfits of characters, while the actual game has shitty models forever?
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I like the 3D chibis
Never again will I pretend otherwise just to fit in.
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Delinquent cunny
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>>728758835
LAS LAS
BERI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgqtR_l9b-s
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>>728758283
Animations are still a bit rough, but 7 was a dramatic improvement over 6 and I like the way they look overall. Never understood the utter vitriol some people have for the 3D models considering the old animations was just the sprites cycling three different poses while particle effects and camera tricks did the heavy lifting.
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>>728759034
CHEST BAGS KEEP MOVING
THIS IS A FLATTY NEIGHBORHOOD
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>>728759034
Haven't played the later entries yet, but looking at that webm, actively puts me off from wanting to.
Shit reminds me strongly of ar tonelico 3. The style, the camera direction, the movement. It's just fucking cheap and awful.
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>>728759101
Better?

Man, the Item Reincarnation stuff in 7 had a lot of potential. I loved that you could get weapon skills as a passive upgrade and put it on a different one, like giving spear skills to a staff user as seen here. Shame that the process was such a pain in the ass and it was so easy to cap your stats that there wasn't much reason to actually mess with it.
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>unflattens your flattie
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>>728759034
This is a bit of a complex topic to go over in depth in what's ostensibly a cunny thread
But
Spritework is an inherently more interpretive medium. It engages the imagination of the viewer to fill in certain blanks and inconsistencies. This is just how people and perception work. I don't know why, I'm not a psychologist.
3D and model based animation doesn't work the same way. Things that look perfectly fine as 2D animation, because your mind is engaged filling blanks in doesn't work anymore in 3D.
Top shelf 3D looks better than top shelf 2D, but mediocre 2D looks WAY better than mediocre 3D.
And, NIS/Disgaea was well above mediocre 2D. They were some of the stronger 2D. And switching from good 2D, to sub-mediocre 3D will never not be a difficult pill.
If NIS actually managed to pull 3D off well, there would probably still be some people that simply prefer the 2D style, but the main problem is they kinda... didn't. Phantom Brave 2 BARELY has some hair and cloth physics working, that more often just bug out and overtax the unoptomized engines. Most of what NIS is doing, is 3D versions of their 2D animations, with a more active walk cycle.
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>>728760852
Hey, that's illegal.
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>>728762280
>I think you are all wrong.jpg
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>>728759101
>CHEST BAGS KEEP MOVING
hell yeah they do.
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>>728701807
I fucking love da grindan game
Disgaea 8 needs to have Etna and Laharls child in it
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>>728762905
her tits are plain air
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>>728762969
Laharl kissing Etna and Etna freaking out over it would be the funniest shit
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>>728763006
hhhehehe
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>>728763053
I love these two so much, my personal ending is that the two end up married and ruling their netherworld together. I will not acknowledge anything contrary to this should it ever exist in any of the games
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>>728763243
Give it a few thousand years and it's bound to happen when Laharl starts resembling King Krichevskoy
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flatties owe me naizuri
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>>728763369
that's clearly off model! Etna is NOT obese!
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>>728763417
I just want to see Laharl and Etna dealing with their own cute little Petta equivilant. Even if I have to pretend Flonne doesn't exist when she shows up on screen
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>>728763486
She will be, at the rate she eats purin.
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>>728763486
flatass
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>>728758835



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