.
if AyyMyDick was smart they'd capitalize on this
>>728714365>accidentally bought a GPU at the perfect timeggwp
Boohoo nobody cares about AAA slop
>Just upgraded to a 5080 last weekMy good goy instincts kicked in at the right time for once.
>>728714365the master becomes the slaverace
AMD bros, we fucking won
guess ill just buy an amd card
>>728714559You'd have a better chance on Intel Arc getting decent then betting on AMD doing anything smart
If you didn't sniff this out weeks ago you're ngmi. It's been telegraphed repeatedly.
>>728714764still the master because the PS5 got no game
>>728714365Kinda regret getting a 5070ti over a 5080 then. Oh well. I'm sure it'll be fine
>just built a new rig this summerNyahahaha
>waitfagshow about PC gamingin general buckbroken here's your RAM veggies https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=ddr5+ram PC Vegams. Yum, only the same price as a single console. But you need a video card, here's your selection for NVIDIA cards https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=rtx+16gb eat up. Its a buffet of PCVeganism after years of shitting up the board. Fucking Valve cult and /g/ fringe lunatics.
>>728714559they can't, their GPUs are inferior also, Jensen and Lisa are cousins, so it's a cartel
I'll just wait until you go poop and steal your computer. Waitchads always win
>>728714365I really hope gaming hardware stagnates hard so we'll see better games in the coming decade rather than everyone just prettying up their graphics on top of the same old shit they've been selling for years
>waiting for a lottery for a chance to buy a $2000 card
>>728714785>Nvidia quit for a more profitable business>AMD is left with scrapsWinning is weird
>>728714365Don't forget to buy HDDs either.
>>728714365Oh NO I'M NOW COMPELLED TO MAKE A RETARDED PURCHASE FOR A GPU THAT WILL BE OBSOLETE IN 2 YEARS
who the fuck used the monkeys paw to wish an end to consoomerism!?
>>728715179NVIDIA and Crucial are quitting PC gaming market. Ram prices cost 380 dollars now for one stick. lol. PC mustard vegans bragging about 8GB vram Steam cult Machine. That thing is gonna cost 1,500 dollars now.
I have an old 3060ti. How much should I sell it for, bro? Should I wait until the shortage officially starts?
>>728715224people still make hdds? people still buy hdds?
Name 1 (one) [won] {juan} game worth playing that needs a 50-series.
I got a 4090 in 2023, surely it will last until the bubble pops.
>>728714365>tfw waited until the very first news of the crisis RAM >got me a really nice computer after my old (and extremely outdated) computer died
>>728715359>consoles don't use ram>amd doesn't existyou're brown and you should stop talking about things you don't understand
>>728715395Yes? For mass storage there's nothing better.
I will just stop gaymen, i don't care
>>728715395Yes, and yes. And if you don't see the writing on the wall tell you how you should own your own data as much as possible, you'll deserve everything you'll get in the near future.
>>728715359good thing consoles don't use ram
>that feel when I don't give a fucking shit about modern PC gaming and only emulate older gamesfeels good man
>no games worth playing>no need for new hardwareshrimped
>>728714365I wanna get my 5090ti super, i want to upgrade my 5090 i already had it for a year already
Still happy with my 4090.
>>728715636This. The 4090 is the GOAT.
Still happy with my 1080
>>728715494So glad to see PCVegans get buckbroken so hard right nowhttps://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=rtx+16gbhttps://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=ddr5+ramPC /v/ Valve cult and /g/ echochamber status = FUCKED.
>>728715581Just realised that we're living the new videogame crash. It was forseen but still surprised somehow.
>have my 4070 super>have my steam deck OLED still at 100% battery health after 1.5 yearsPiss chilling through the bubble and good until it bursts in 2028
>>728715581I havent bought a physical game in 20 years but i only play on pc lol
>>728715395>having all your shit stored on SSDs.
>>728715692>PC /v/ Valve cult>Not PC /v/alve cultOne job.
>>728714365>one of your products is currently worth more than its ever been, and is being completely cleaned out every time you make it>decide to make less, thus making less money than you couldWhy?
>>728714365still waiting for the 60xx
>i will be forced to get poorfag rigs and play old games onlyi can live with thatas long as they dont fuck up the internet too
>>728715581I mean, kids these days unironically don't have any choice. They're all reduced to play gachas on their phones.I remember when I earned enough pocket money to buy not only a GameCube, but also a PS2. And I even ended up with an Xbox later. Now a kid won't even be able to get a single console with years worth of birthday and Xmas money.This is fucking grim, and people don't realize yet how the current situation is shaping up the industry in the coming years.
>>728714365This crisis is a filter to know what companies are worth your money or not.>Crucial and Nvidia shooting themselves in the foot
>>728715751Last physical game I bought was Starcraft II, and then it made me make an account and forced me to download updates larger than the whole game anyway, so that was the end of that. Never bothered again, but I hear most PC games after then were just Steam codes in a box.
>>728715395I got a 6tb hdd for all my roms for emulating. Why waste space on a ssd for that?
>>728714365>waiting for christmas money to buy one is it over?
>>728715813>as long as they dont fuck up the internet tooHow it feels to be blissfully unaware?
>>728715785they're still making GPUs, but mostly just ones that are for AI
GTA6 won’t even be on PC before 2030.
>>728715785That's how much more profitable selling hardware to datacenter startups is. Until subsidies and 100% tax free are gone, it will remain this way.
>>728715861NVIDIA said they're making less GPUs. Crucial is out of PC consume market. Samsung is raising prices on their RAM. Laptop computers are going up in prices. Didn't one NVIDIA graphics card partner leave or am I imagining things? Valve Steam Machine isn't going to sell well, lol. I think they might just cancel the whole thing at the rate RAM is going, especially since 8GB VRAM in 2026 is ewaste.
>>728715923good, nothing bad will happen
>tfw i wanted to do an "final" upgrade once AM5 socket reaches end of life and get a good deal on "last gen" hardware that would last me another couple of years>tfw till on 2x 1tb sata ssdsgood thing I splurged and got my 2x32 GB 6000MHZ 30cl in 2023.
>>728716007+ Windows 11 creating a bigger e-waste with no compatibility with non-TPM computers.
>>728715692what the fuck are you even trying to say schizo?you're just repeating yourselfyou're delusional if you think you have to use nvidia or that sony will take a bigger loss for your benefit
>>728715785And that product is chips for AI. Gamers can't compete with techbros billions.
Why pa/g/eets are spamming so much on /v/ today? Bots?
>>728716127Imagine if a war begins between China and Taiwan in the coming years.Not only AI is gonna giga explode but everything related to chips is just gonna crash.
>>728716113t. buckbroken PC fanboy not recognizing the price of RAM and GPU alone are destroying the PC market. go back to your /v/alve celebration thread about losing before launching their own e-waste 8GB VRAM console in 2026.
bros, I have a gaming laptop that's 5 years old, how fucked am I? it's not slower or anything but I'm scared it doesn't turn on anymore in this economy
I was planning on keeping my rig going for another 5-6 years or so anyway but that's only if nothing unexpected happensI will shit on Jensen's leather jackets. Fuck that faggot Altman too.
>mfw bought a new rig in septemberi researched absolutely nothing and still won
>>728716229gaming laptops will probably go extinct soon so you'll have a cool relic of a better time
>>728715785You have purchased 100 hours on the computer part machine. In 1 hours you can make 1 data center gpu or 5 consumer gpus. Data center gpus sell for 1000 credits, consumer gpus sell for 5 credits. How do you allocate your machine hours to maximise profits?
Okay, but what new games do you intend to play?
>>728716189The Chinese are trying HARD to make advanced chips, it's by design, they want to corner the electronics market and get the US/Europe by the balls.They've already managed to corner the solar panel and EV industries.
>>728716220you're incomprehensible, mentally ill and brazillianconsoles will have their prices increased because sony isn't going to take a loss for your benefit
>>728716397Uh...
>>728714365THINK OF THE DEVELOPERSNOW THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO OPTIMIZE THEIR GAMES
>>728716397Concord 2
>>728714679Not quite as accidental for me but still, feels good
>>728716397Helldivers 2 if it's on discount tomorrow. I already am playing Darktide, Deep Rock Galaxy and TWW3.
>>728716397good point
>>728715697I mean, this is literally what /v/ has wanted for years. Thread after thread of disenfranchised anons praying this rotten industry crashes. Well, here it is.
Sp prices will be fine again just in time for the release of GTA VI
>>728716445>https://investors.micron.com/news-releases/news-release-details/micron-announces-exit-crucial-consumer-business>https://overclock3d.net/news/gpu-displays/nvidia-plans-heavy-cuts-to-gpu-supply-in-early-2026/>https://www.techpowerup.com/342970/valve-claims-steam-machine-outperforms-70-of-current-gaming-pcs>https://www.vice.com/en/article/ps5-pro-may-offer-better-value-than-a-gaming-pc-as-ram-prices-surge/lol PC vegan ego. Fucking retard race.
>>728716684kek
>>728716684yeah right after WW4 concludes we'll be so back
>>728716397...UhhhJackie Chan
>>728716397EU5 for the next 10 years
>>728716784You skipped a WW bud
>>728716686lol, a broken fucking recordthe ps6 will only have 52 custhe 9070xt has 64we already have your next gen hardware
>>728716785
>>728716397>new gamesI just need low end shit for Morrowind and Minecraft
>Have had the same rig for 7 years now.Guess we're shooting for 10
>>728716409>They've already managed to corner the solar panel industryIn April this year China installed more solar panels than Australia has installed in its entire history. Australia is a global leader in solar panels and still has by far the largest per capita solar generation. Over 17 years of installation outbuilt in a single month
>>728715486Same, although I'm stuck with only 16GB RAM since the hike had already begun by then. Still, it'll do.Instead I shall now live in mortal fear of any one of my new components dying prematurely before this insanity blows over.
first they came for the artists, and I did not speak for I was not an artist.Then they came for the writers, and I did not speak for I was not a writer.Then they came for the PC builders, and I did not speak for I was not a PC builder.Then they came for me, and when I-
>>728716904SameAt this point I don't even care anymore
What if Ai makes better hardware after eating all the current hardware? Then I can wait for discounts on surplus Ai hardware.
>>728716829The "vegan" guy is some dickless discord troon who trolls this way in evey thread about hardware jus stop replying
>>728714559>AMD>smart
>>728717013if you can be replaced by AI then you're not an artist or a writer
>>728717034>>728716904GPUs are at launch MSRP. You're waiting because the price is going up later? That makes no fucking sense.
>>728717013I hate artists so it's a good trade-off
>>728715813>as long as they dont fuck up the internet tooLmaooo
>>728716409>>728716189There are currently operating chip fabs in America right now, and more are under construction, specifically to address this scenario.
>>728715107*Rubs my box of pampers*Yeah? Keep waiting.
hope this means no more AAA games and open world slop
>>728717174this new episode with nvidia will be weird, it was obvious AAA devs were getting paid by Nvidia to make bloated graphics slop
>>728714559>>728714850>>728715067>>728717065Still seething and coping the 9070 WARPED your little nJudeajeet brain, I see
>>728717085if you can be replaced by outsourcing then you're not a worker
>>728717152STOP PROTECTING YOUR COMPUTER AND TAKE A SHIT NOW
>>728717317nah, all the blame can be placed squarely on timmy tencent's shitwareraytracing is an inelegant and incompetent solution to lighting and lumen and nanite is an inelegant and incompetent solution to raytracing
>>728717424not yet
>>728714559AMD's GPU division is terminally retarded, there's no saving it
>>728717152Shit your pants to own the chuds
>>728714748Kek I got mine on Monday.
>>728714365It's been over since GPUs became overpriced and Nvidia virtually had a monopoly.>>728714748Kek I can't even find a job.
>>728717123The good trade-off is paying triple the price for ram and games in the future? Even pre-builts will be 2-3 times the price at this rate
>>728717402doesn't make sensesomeone's still doing the work
>>728717525I just emulate old games
>>728717531>someone's still doing the workNot you though, but some indian guy doing it for 20 rupees
>>728717340AMD gpu's are the Intel cpu's of the pc market, more power, more heat for equal or less performance. Hope you enjoy listening to that law mover once the temps start rising.
>>728714365>Got my 2080 ti right before the crypto boom fucked up GPU prices>Built my recent PC with 64GB RAM just before AI fucked up RAM pricesThe machine spirits must've given me divine revelation because that's twice I dodged a bullet
>>728716397Half-Life 3
>>728715581Damn, we’re going to need a lot more pozzed dyke girlboss AAA slop to turn this around
>>728717564Gl with that, internet IDs will become a thing, soo…
>>728717446you're not going back far enough on the blame ladder. those bloated and expensive tech solutions were necessary to compensate for the wave of unqualified employment during the height of the DEI regime.
>>728716220Gonna bite and give you a (you)
>>728717752>emulation>internetanon, I...
>>728717446gaytracing also never caught onit was always an extra bloat option you could turn on that tanked performance for more realistic (but not necessarily better) lighting. nvidia built cards for year specifically designed for it but it was light enough to become standard
>>728714365got a new gpu a couple of weeks ago, new ram sticks a month agoi still need a ssd
china will save usr-right bros?...
>>728714365still using the gtx 960 that i bought on 2015
>>728714365>have a 4080>splurged on 64GB of fast RAM for literally no reason other than i could because i had a very good job at the time>i now make a pajeet-tier $800/month>i mostly play old indieslop like Factorio, Rimworld and KSPyep i'm thinking i don't give a shit
>>728717626>law mover
>>728715541I opened my ps4 once and there's actually nothing in there.
>>728717935>Raugs
>>728714785Nvidia CEO going to call up his cousin at AMD and by end of January AMD will announce they will be reducing manufacturing tooscreencap this
>>728714559What was that? Nvidia -50? Gotcha.
>>728714365I'm surprised it took this long. But I'm not waiting for things to get cheaper because of abundant manufacturing, I'm waiting for the bubble to pop to slurp up recycled hardware.
>>728716397DivinityDark HeresyTotal War Warhammer40kCUNNYMATAWitcher 4Ace Combat 8
>>728717626they're not that different, do you get off on lying?if you're not manually tuning your card and letting it run on shit factory defaults tailored so that normies don't rma them you don't belong on /v/
>>728718045>ah yes cousin, I will cease production and miss out on millions of dollars cause you asked me to
>>728715421I'm thinking about getting a high-end surge protector, or uninterruptible power supply for my current build, who knows how long it will have to last.
>>728714365oh well im not missing out on anything that wont run on a 1080 ti
>>728717174>hope this means no more AAA games and open world slopI wouldn't even seethe about the current state of affairs if I was sure it was going to mean this and devs being forced to worry about optimization againRealistically, they will keep releasing unoptimized bloated slop and just push harder and harder for cloud gaming if consumer hardware becomes unnafordable
>>728717935The moment anything Chinese is remotely competitive it'll just get banned. It already happened with vehicles, china makes better cars for less and americans simply aren't allowed to buy them, not even with a tariff. Anything tech related will be trivially easy to ban, they'll just say the magic words "national security" and let the press spin the rest of the yarn. Before you know it redditors will answer questions about buying chinese RAM with tales about "CCP spyware" and LLMs will use that info to answer questions and it will become truth.
>>728714365this is the greatest news in the last 100 years.
>>728718186AMD is also pushing harder for the AI data center market than consumer cardsWe are not interesting as customers at the moment, just like with crypto no company wants to miss the current gold rush
>>728716397lord of the fallen 2pirate switch 2 gamespragmatadivinityre9control resonantnioh 3wukongstellar blade dlcs with better rig
>>728715692>Cries about PC gamersYou are swarty brocoli haired underaged faggot fyi
>>728715395Fucking retard
>>728716527>>728714679>>728714365Bought RTX5070ti for 720€, I'm I ok?
>>728714365The AI bubble will burst just like the crypto mining bubble burst. Waitfags will be vindicated.
>>728715396Skyrim
>Still have my 3080 EVGAaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa
>>728716397Total Warhammer 40K, GTAVI, Ace Combat 8, Warhammer 40K Dawn of War IV, and some other games that I forget.
Quit bitching about the shortages. You can stream PC games from NVIDIA's cloud servers to your device from only €5.49 a month
>>728718548>I'm ISAARS PLEASE BUY MY OVERPRICED HARDWARE
>>728715421nigga I'm still on my gtx970 praying before every time I turn it on
>>728714365It's always darkest right before dawn.
>>728714365the entire industry is braindrained on UE5 onry, as well as Switch 2 and Xbox's parity clauseso whilst it sucks, at least i can say my 5070ti will not need upgrading for a long time to come.by then... i'll be dead and/or consumer PC won't exist outside of propriety shitboxes like Gabecube and probably some similar Xbox version of that.
mfw I have a backup 3050 (6gb) when my 3060 breaks
>>728718665This is like if they broke your legs, and offered you a wheelchair at a discount.
>>728715785Every Jewish tech CEO is going all in on AI. They don't care about what is profitable right now.
>>728716787luckily EU5 is CPU dependent, so this GPU and RAM shit won't affect the prices too much
>>728715785>Why?Because AI companies are currently throwing the equivalent of a small countries GDP at them.
>>728714365Will pre existing GPUs be affected by this? I haven't built a PC yet, but I would like to. I don't want the flashiest, high tech computer. I just need something that can run 3D modeling software and the occasional 5+ year old game.
>>728718257I'm thinking the sameI already have a high end surge protector, but no UPS, I'm saving to get a high-end UPS.I see lots of people in these threads bragging, who seem to think shit never breaks and their hardware will last forever. Even if you take good care of them, electronics eventually fail.
>>728718665This is their ideal future for computing btw, throw everything on a datacenter and starve the consumer market so personal computing no longer exists. Make everything a walled garden, charge subscriptions for everything. Eventually they'll divvy the internet up into packages like a cable subscription. They've always wanted to do this but regulators stopped it ages ago. Cloud computing gets around the regulatory issues with the fact that you're using their hardware, thus they're not violating net neutrality, only putting terms on the use of their servers.it's 10.99 now and it'll be 79.99 if they get their way, just like cable and just like streaming services.
>>728717340>clearly shows the 5080 as the winnerAnon, I...
>>728718972>Will pre existing GPUs be affected by this?Yep, only pre-existing ones that won't are those that were already bought and waiting to be dispatched to whoever bought it.
>>728715224and your copper, water, electricity and jobs.
>>728718972I just sold my old GPU (a 3070) for the price I paid for it nearly 5 years ago. It's over for the GPU market.
never upgrading my 3070
luckily, I don't play AAAslop so I can just keep running everything on this 5 years old GPU without an issue
>>728715396HIGHGUARD OFCOURSEWitcher 4GTA 6Cyberpunk 2Battlefield 7ummm there is more
>>728717118GPUs are the only exception right now.I might snag a 9070xt, especially since I'm switching to linux soon, but it might cause a chain of other upgrades to accommodate it like I've been told I'd need a new PSU to power it, case in case it doesn't fit, Motherboard if it isn't compatible which means that damn near everything might need to be replaced lol.
>>728714365>do nothing>lose
>>728715581
So I'm too late to upgrade now? Will I have to wait till 3030 to upgrade?
>ctrl F 5090>1 postGrim
>>728715224checked some WD on amazon out of interest and it still had the exact same price as it had 5 years agoHDDs aren't going anywhere it seems
>>728715705>in 2028
>>728716397
>>728714365Just wait a little more, the bubble will pop. Sometimes you got to sit and watch the shit unfold.
>>728715785money, insane amounts of money.they made 90% and 32Billions on AI alone.
>>728718548learn english, ESL retard
>>728714365atp you should just use gpu money to buy nvidia stocks instead imostill get no gpu, but at least you'd benefit from the jewery
>>728714559nvidia is cutting because of ai-induced ram shortages, unless amd can magically pull ram out of their asses they can't do shit.
>>728716229
>splurged on a 5080 + 7800X3D last friday after my 6yo rig finally died
Ahem Fuck CHINKVIDIA (a jewflation stock and a ponzi scheme)
Finally, the long awaited answer to "Why would you buy a console?" Because in this broken, dogshit economy it's the only way you'll be able to play vidya in the future.
LITERALLY ALL AMD NEEDS TO DO IS MAKE THEIR CARD COMPATIBLE WITH AI IMAGE GEN TO BE ALMOST ON EQUAL FOOTING
You can thank India for this, poos love the ai because it allows them to cheat even more and indian ceos are the same.
>>728719712>RAM randomly failed a memtest so I boughted more>this happens immediately before it shoots up in priceLuckGODS always win.(it went up another 20 bucks since i screenshotted this)
>>728719776>AMD makes their cards more appealing to AI bros>AI takes all the cards like with NvidiaGreat plan
>>728714365Waitfag here.I have already waited for five years to upgrade my RX 580 and I will wait another five years.Maybe by then there will be new games worth playing.
>>728716509>OPTIMIZEHELLO SUPER CANCER DLSS AND CLOUD GAMING
>>728719776>LITERALLY ALL AMD NEEDS TO DO IS MAKE THEIR CARD COMPATIBLE WITH AI IMAGE GEN TO BE ALMOST ON EQUAL FOOTINGexcept they are? I want my GPU to raster, I can buy a dedicated box for AI
>>728719941>Oh, you can't afford the $5999 for the required GPU to run our latest game? >Don't worry, you can rent our GPUs through the cloud for just $29.99 a month!>You don't want to get FOMO from missing out on the latest AAA game do you? Gaming past 2030 is going to be awful
Will you chuds FINALLY buy a console now?
We are witnessing a collaborative sabotage of the consumer market by all hardware companies as punishment for users complaining about AI.Today, we have hardware capable of running computationally expensive workloads and even running local LLMs, who I greatly diminishes the perceived value of """AI.""" Nvidia et all therefore have concluded that they must change the world such that AI is a neccessity, rather than face the truth that it currently servers virtually no purpose.How will they accomplish this? By starving us of hardware. Shutting down their consumer hardware brands to fully focus all their efforts on AI. Starving us of powerful hardware. Forcing us to rely on cloud solutions where we must pay subscription fees and have our data harvested for slow and unreliable services.Its already happening, new phones and laptops will release with gimped specs. GPUs will have a production shortage and and be priced extremely high. RAM and storage will be unobtainable.
>>728714365With part prices about to go nuts and my PC dying on me a couple weeks ago, I just sprung for a $2200 prebuilt with a 5080 and 32GB RAM. It wasn't worth buying the parts now, and it's only gonna get worse when the prebuilt manufacturers need to start sourcing parts in the current market.
>>728719597I give it another 20-30 years until late stage capitalism causes a total societal collapse.
>>728718775Same but with a 2060 for mine. Probably wouldn't be able to play a few of the games I currently do anymore, but I need to work on my backlog anyways. I hope I can grab either a new 3060 (there's still a few) at some point for a relatively okay price as a backup.
>>728720236Good thing I'll be dead by then!Later suckers!
>>728720236lmao there will be no collapse we are heading towardsTech feudalismBasically the top 0.5% will enjoy a life of vanities and depravity, with all their needs met. The other 0.5% will serve them as knights did, they will enforce their laws and watch over the serfs. The 99% will be the serfs, they will own nothing and have no access to anything that isn't approved by the 0.5%. You will only have access to simple devices that connect to the cloud based AI services scanned by Palantir. Wrongthink detected? You get locked out of your digital ID for 2 weeks, good luck buying food.
>>728718326desu their market isnt captive enough to push the the worst anti-consumer crap like say, windows users are. they may try to push things that way but eventually money will talk, and lil bill will keep playing fortnite and roblox instead of opting into some retarded cloud gaming humiliation ritual
>>728715785As others have said, they're selling, just not to normal consumers. The parts are being eaten up by data centers. There will be an AI crash in the next couple years, which is why they're not bothering to increase production and instead just switching focus while they can take advantage of the bubble that currently exists. Eventually, we'll see the bubble burst and there will only be one or two remaining AI "winners," and consumers will become the primary market again. That's probably several years away though.
>>728716397Minecraft real graphics mod + creeper sex mod
>>728716397crimson desert next year, it's gonna be the dragon's dogma 2 we deserve
>>728716397>>728715785PC market is worth around 15 bilion$, everything with tablets and laptops is worth about 250bilion$ ... meanwhile OpenAI alone is expected to recieve 1 trilion$ in government loans, 4x the worth of the entire consumer market, and it wants to spend half a trillion$ a year, and so just one AI company can outspend every consumer twice over paying with the money they take out of your pocket. So i ask you, who needs gamers?
>>728714365This just ties in to the rumors that are going to skip the 5xxx super gpu's and are just going to release the 6xxx series in early 2027. The exploding ram prices and nvidia making fuck you money with AI has really put gaming gpu's on the backburner, they are not going to cancel it, because they still make a lot of money on it.
>>728715224>>7287143655090 and 170TB of storage here. I'm ready for the end times.
>>728716113He's just being a console warring faggot screeching about PCs for some reason.>>728716007EVGA killed themselves generations ago, nothing to do with the current crysis.
>>728720370Really should have killed every boomer who claimed the """job creators""" were demigods who should not be questioned or reinged in. America really is just a nation of cuckolds trying to project strength.
>>728716397im gonna ai gen hyper futas fulling bathtubs with cum logs in the background while I play factorio
>>728720438They're going to need gamers in a few years when the AI market doesn't turn out to be as profitable as they believe it will be. AI isn't going away, but it isn't going to be the cash cheat that they think it is.
>>728714559>implying the Jensen family won't crash the world togetherLolLmao
>>728720167No because consoles are also going to get huge price increases too.
Buy your gpu now, because the price for everything with ram in it will go up with at least 20% early next year. I got a 5060ti at 440€ to replace my 3060ti, a small upgrade, but i hope it will last me long enough until the next time gpu&ram prices go down again in a few years so i can buy a new system.
>tfw 2080S from 2020Please hang in there little fella.
>>728720794>5060tilolwhy would you buy anything with pcie x8
>>728720708They know that. That's why the market is shifting rather than production increasing. They're taking advantage of the short term gains they'll get from the bubble without creating a risk of overproduction once the bubble bursts. They also know consumers will have no choice but to go back to them once the market settles back down, so there's no downside to them making these changes for the time being and pissing off consumers.
Hey real talkHow long will my 32gb of ram and a 4070 last?And yes I regret not getting a 4080 back then
>>7287209094 more years probably.
>>728720909>zoomers worrying about their 4070 not being enoughKek
>>728720881Because i'm putting it on a older rig where it doesnt matter anyway. A pcie 5 X8 card on a motherboard with pcie 4 x16 is like a 2fps loss at most.
>>728720982I'm 38
>>728720909>12GB VRAMOH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
>>728720967Eh not too bad I guessI was on a 1080 for years.>>728720982I'm 39
>>728720909you will be fine unless the new GTA is a subhuman indian coded piece of shit that needs 24gb at 1080p medium settings(high and ultra look identical)
>>728721101https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockstar_India
>>728720982im 44
>>728720909The reality of this situation means that developers will eventually have to accept that they cannot aim for top of the line hardware anymore and have to focus more on optimization because nobody is going to be able to afford/get their hands on new parts, but we will probably see devs be stubborn for the next year or so before they realize they have to start setting last generation hardware as the target.
>>728714559unfortunately AMD is stuck in a similar position where data center/server stuff occupies their best GPU staff around
>>728715581This honestly. The last AAA game I cared about was MHWilds and they utterly killed the franchise for me, a franchise in which id put 500-2000hrs per title, and Wilds only hit 100. Game just feels like her shit to play, even worse than World.After that, I've just never needed to blow my GPU up, and Im still using an 8yr old gpu atm.
>>728714365WAITFAGS BTFO>WAITFAGS BTFO WAITFAGS BTFO>WAITFAGS BTFO WAITFAGS BTFO>WAITFAGS BTFO WAITFAGS BTFO>WAITFAGS BTFO WAITFAGS BTFO>WAITFAGS BTFO WAITFAGS BTFO>WAITFAGS BTFO
>>728714365PCfags BTFO
>>728721241>he reality of this situation means that developers will eventually have to accept that they cannot aim for top of the line hardwarefeels like a return to the 00's when you were expected to upgrade with every single major release. HL2 caused riots.
>>728716397no new games can compete with modded Minecraft as far as resource demands.
>>728721372tech illiterate
>>728721274Udna is going to standardize GPU designs between gaming and server divisions to cut costs and hopefully increase performance. It'll be like how Nintendo made a hybrid system to fold over handheld gaming division with console. UDNA might be AMD's Switch moment.
>he didn't panic buyed after OpenAI secured 40% of RAM production>he didn't panic buyed after RAM price went x4>he didn't panic buyed after nVidia decided to stop providing vRAM>he didn't panic buyed after a rumor of severely limiting RAM amount in new smartphones>he didn't panic buyed after Samsung decided to stop making SSDsLMAOA couple hours ago I bought a laptop, a phone and a 5070ti. GPUs were getting sold out before my eyes.
>>728714365Glad I did my new build last winter. 5090 - 64gb ram - 9800x3d. Everyone who said to wait can get fucked in the ass. Have fun playing at 1080p for the next few years!
If you have anything less than 32GB DDR5 RAM these days you're not going to make it. Even then something like modded Skyrim you probably need 64.
>>728714559retard
>>728721869Unironically, you forgot the most important one>he didn't panic buy as soon as the first missile is launched from fake commie chyna to real chinaIf you thought the current shortage are bad, you've seen nothing yet
>>728718402nobody cares about AMD for AI Data Centers
>>728718569I feel at this point it is too big to fail, even if it burst AI will stay forever
>>728719492Dumbass, once the current stock in Amazon's warehouses sells out, the next batch will be way more expensive.
My new cope is that the rarity of higher end hardware is gonna make devs shape the fuck up and start making things that perform better and use more tricks than just doing engine wank, much like in the older days.
>>728714559They are. AMD is also selling to AI datacenters for big bucks. Nobody cares about gamer cattle's $400 cards when you can sell the same shit for $4k.
>>728721807>tendie referencedumbif anything it's a zen moment
>>728721807AMD will never amount to anything unless they have an answer to Nvidia's software, and they never will because Nvidia has infinite money to fund their software development, due to advantages reaped from their software. They missed the boat, their only hope is some state-subsidized Chinese company releasing an open source answer to CUDA, but that would fuck them from the other end as cheaper Chinese hardware would pull their budget market out from under them.
>>728714785>>728718045>>728718186Jensen Huang family tree
>>728714679>was desperate and bought a GPU at a little over MSRP>turns out it was a 80% discount
>>728715785There's only so much manufacturing capacity. They're still making gpus and the same total, but more of them are the AI/data center specialized GPUs that are sold at a huge mark up.
>>728722149kek, that's not how it works. everything else jumped on the 8th of december they didn't wait to clear out their stock first for those
>>728716229Anon, you must act now. Go to Lenovo's website right now and buy the best Legion laptop you can afford. You will not get another chance.
>ignored the fearmongering over 5090's burning homes down>ignored fags saying that 32gb is enough I win
>>728722136No one's saying AI is going anywhere; that's not what the "bubble bursting" means. The AI bubble is the artificially high, hype-based speculative market value on various AI companies. They're currently massively overvalued and tons of money is being pumped into these companies with the knowledge that, in the end, only one or two will actually survive. Eventually, the market value for these companies will come crashing back down to earth, and many of them will be wiped out in the process. The ones that remain will become the "victors" and the defacto AI companies moving forward. The tech will still exist and be useful/valuable in more realistic ways, but the massive overvaluation and overinvestment will slow significantly as the market restabilizes.
>>728714365Kill 2016 and older hardware by forcing tpm. Kill newer hardware by forcing AI on everyone. This seems planned.
>>728722304this is the same level of cope that was deployed for windows before proton got big and now microsoft is shitting themselves over valve's workand cuda is much easier to solve than thatno, once udna hits that shit will be ironed out quickly because that's not the issue, the issue is rdna being a retarded idea
>>728715395Unless you store your important data in 2 ssd, then an hdd is safer. A HDD will tell you when it's about to die. An SSD will just fucking die suddenly and unexpectedly.
>>728716681People wanted the VIDEOGAMES to crash, not the HARDWARES, stupid. Videogames crashing is good. Hardware is not. I need that shit for work, too, ACTUAL work, not AI faggotry that doesn't add anything of value.
>>728722483The only real issues I can say I've had with my 5090 is that the card is heavy as hell which can lead to connection issues if your card has slipped out of the slot slightly and that the drivers are an absolute mess. I had to downgrade my drivers the other day because it turns out those drivers were causing me to have random black screens that weren't even a crash or anything, but Nvidia drivers have been trash for quite a while.
>>728722158Well they'll have no choice but to do that or else their games are going to bomb.
>>728719382Mobos, cases, coolers and psus might crater in price soon just to move units with hardly anyone building due to ram hikes.
>>728722051not gonna happen. damaging the semiconductor plants would defeat the purpose of trying to take taiwan.
>>728722158Maybe they would, if they could. But 90% of modern game "devs" are indians who don't know what optimization is, so good luck with that
>>728722707You should really get a GPU bracket.
>>728715179When google, amazon and eventually Microsoft quit the gaming industry nobody cares because they didn't belong there in the first place. We don't say oh valve is being left with scraps because amazon makes more money with AWS.
>>728721241This whole situation is just going to spell the death of 4K gaming at high framerates. We're going to have to go back to the old standards.
Drivers are only going to become more shit now that they are moving more resources from the gaming cpu division to the AI division.
>gaming going into a true dark age because of the AI bubbleOnly going to get worse before it gets better. AI might actually destroy the gaming industry. I always though the greedy publishers would do it, but the AI grifters starving the game industry of hardware will accomplish it just as effectively. PC gamers will be the first feel the pain, but eventually consoles will also suffer.
>>728722158all you would need to do is stop forcing raytracingit's the only reason everything runs like utter shit
>>728722845>He believes chyna wants it for the techAnon, I don't even... They want it for a completely different reason: nuclear submarines. The coastal waters of chyna are either too shallow and/or surrounded by islands that are not theirs. There's not a single sub that goes out of chyna that can't be tracked. Meaning their nuclear deterrence is effectively zero.They want Taiwan for very strategic reasons. Not for memetech. They won't care if factories are leveled, they represent nothing compared to your entire deterrence.
>>728723060Why would I update my drivers when I only play 10+ year old video games on my 10+ year old operating system?
>>728722664No? Windows is trash, microsoft's software in general is trash and has always trash, it only sees use because there's no viable alternative. Nvidia software on the other hand is both state-of-the-art and costs nothing, it exists to lock users into their hardware and it's very effective at that. An open source solution isn't just going to appear from thin air, mostly because it's not necessary for users. The prime beneficiary of that software would be AMD or whatever company makes it, because it'd let them break off some of nvidia's monopoly, not the end users, who are pretty much universally satisfied with nvidia's software right now and heavily prefer them. Much like how everyone prefers steam and so voluntarily locks themselves into valve's platform. You have it reversed, AMD is more like Epic in this analogy, they're in a position of having an inferior product AND no market share so they have to seek adoption through other avenues such as epic online services. fwiw I wish nvidia had real competition, but it's not as trivial as you make it sound.
>>728722918Nta but why do most fags place their PCs vertically? Most things are slotted against that horizontally, in addition to it being a me vulnerable position. >inb4 floor fags>inb4 CARPET floor fags
>>728716681it's not crashing hard or fast enough for my liking
>>728723156Because if you have a newer GPU you need to update your drivers to play 10+ year old games at their full performance on your 10+ year old operating system.
>>728714365>Not buying Intel>Not buying Nvidia>Not buying MicrosoftI won ages go though.
>bought a 4090 for $1700>it was a good deal
>>728714365I just won't upgrade. If devs won't optimize their games I won't buy them. Simple as.
>>728723156Because i want to play anno 118
>>728723234I thought about this for a second but I genuinely don't know why PCs are traditionally positioned vertically. Old VCRs and stuff were wide so it doesn't make sense to me either. Maybe it was easier to fit them under/on top of a desk that way?
>>728723261>if you have a newer GPUBut I don't. I have a 2080. They still release drivers for it, but it's nothing but specific updates for new games I don't even play and gaytracing support, which I never turn on.
>>728723261The funny thing is that the latest Nvidia drivers apparently fixed the PhysX stuff for the 5xxx series, but doing so has made the drivers super unstable leading to people having to roll back because of how bad the instability is.
QUICK, DO I BUY 5070 TI OR 5090?!?!?!?!FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCKHOLY FUARK ANSWER
>boughted second hand GPUS from china for 20$ each>worth 3000$ eachsomeone out there is richfagging at this second.
>>728723470neither, 9070xt and free yourself from windows
>>728722664>and now microsoft is shitting themselves over valve's worklol no. Microsoft doesn't care about gaming anymore, all they care about is AI. They literally killed Xbox. Shows how important gaming is to them. Gaming makes billions of dollars, but they're convinced AI will make them trillions. They will eventually realize they've been lied to by Altman and will start desperately trying to recoup losses from the AI scam, but until that happens expect them to cannibalize microsoft gaming subsidiaries to feed the AI money pit.
>>728723142America already has subs in Taiwan's waters.
>>728723470Do you have the money?If you do then go for the 5090 just because with everything going on that will probably be the top of the line for the foreseeable future.
>>728714679>bought a 4080 super in 2023Sure hope this lasts the rest of my life, only until society collapses and the grid goes down
>>728723381Something about disk&cd drives and HDD's working better in tower. >>7287234709070xt
>>728714365They are pushing for stream gaming, they are making teh cost of owning hardware too hard/high. No more modding, no more owning.
>>728723470buy gold
>>728723234I think it's just a space saving thing for most people and it was just adopted as the standard. I would love to place my PC horizontally, but I have a huge case and it just isn't possible in my current living space.
>>728723203it would really be that simple, zluda is a random project and it worksno, the only underlying issue is that rdna was a horrible concept and amd doesn't give a shit about anything like that as long as they're chained to that mistakeit's just a matter of paying people responsible for it
>>728714365Waitfags can just wait more actually. Waitfags won.
>>728723878smugly telling people I'm waiting is the only joy I have left in life.
Does this mean my 10 year old gaymen laptop is going up in resale value now
>>728715876>but I hear most PC games after then were just Steam codes in a box.I got the game of the year version of Nier Automata and got pissed that it was just a regular version with a code for the dlc. I can't even imagine how pissed I would be if that was all I got.
>>728715395You dont need SSD to Play Indie games, older than 2015 games, and store movies, animes, and porn, retard
>>728715581Salesfags are completely out of touch. nobody buys physical shit anymore but console warriors online believe physical sales are super duper important because those are the only numbers we have any access to. Of course physical sales cratered, who the fuck cares if your download code is copied off a CD or the interwebs?
Just wait harder
>>728723470Whatever you do, just don't buy the cheapest MSRP card you can find. I'm serious, a mid-tier 9070xt will be better than a cheap base model 5070ti for the simple fact it won't sound like a jet engine when under full load.
Should I buy a PS5 right now? I feel like this will drive up console prices even more too. I actually prefer console due to physical ownership but have been waitfagging on a PS5 since the PS4 has been sufficient so far.
>>728714365what’s funny is the consumer market is the only reason they can be so uppity now - crypto put them on the map for legitimacy beyond gaming and 3d rendering
>>728724383Buy a second PS4 as backup
>>728724383If you want one then now is probably the time to get it since anything that requires pretty much any kind of PC part is going to go up in price.
>>728724467You know, considering used ones go for like 50 bucks, I might just do that. >>728724514>console prices going up 2 years before the gen endsShit has never been this fucked. Has this ever actually happened before now?
>>728720656never too late.
>>728724383If you actually want one and intend to use it, yes, buy now
>>728724759>Has this ever actually happened before now?No. And despite people telling you RAM go in cycles, it has never, ever been that bad. Which is precisely why the bubble WILL burst, and everybody telling you otherwise is fooling themselves.The retardation we're seeing right now are the spasms before death.
I got a 9070xt last week for close to MSRPI have a 4070S, I'm keeping it to see if I can sell it next year for something more than 300 euros
>>728720794>5060ti at 440€ to replace my 3060ti,thats barely an upgrade.
Waitfags, tell me your GPUS. 960 waitfag here. I have waited and will continue to wait, meanwhile I shall continue to emulate
>>728722051WHAT HAPPENED
>>728714365How will this affect me in emulating 30+ year old games?
>>728722158>rarity of higher end hardware is gonna make devs shape the fuck up and start making things that perform betterIt has already been discussed itt before your postNot going to happen, no dev for gaming or other software are going to optimize shitThey will just push for cloud computing if hardware becomes too expensive
>>728714365Man. Maybe we shouldn't have banked so hard on one company.That said, I'd be happy if the tech just stopped progressing. The returns are so minimal. Time for devs to go back to their roots and develop games in a restricted environment, breathing life into the creativity aspect of development again.
>>728714365I'm gonna wait more.
>>728724879People shit on the PS5 for only having astrobot and demon's but it also gets pretty much every game worth a fuck about physically on disc 95% of the time and is far cheaper than a gaymen PC with no physical ownership, So yeah, I'll be going for it I think.>>728724898I hope you're right, but this could also just be the new normal. People pay outrageous prices for phones and macbooks already. This will be the excuse for the PS6 to cost 1000 and we already know the next xbox if it actually materializes is already being referred to as a "luxury product" by microsoft.I suppose one positive of this might be nintendo continuing to have outdated hardware priced reasonably which let them keep producing cheaper games.
>>728725015I know, but the 5070ti would bottleneck my cpu and i dont even have a 4k monitor anyway. It's also my last upgrade until at least 2027 before i get a new rig. And after i sell my 3060ti it will hurt less.
I'm on a 3080 what should I upgrade to before shit hits the fan
>>728725047I'll be honest, I would love to be the kind of person with 10 year old hardware that suddenly upgrades to a 9070xt on a build acceptable for it. I've done much less substantial upgrades and I've been impressed.
>built a PC a year ago and my launch fat PS3 with PS2 BC is still alive
>>728725356>People pay outrageous prices for phones and macbooks alreadyYeah. That is because an insane amount of people are debtmaxxing not realizing that at some point you will run out of credit and the ability to take loans.People will also get to the point where they simply won't pay that price because if you are struggling with cost of living then a luxury item like a video game console becomes a distant second thought.
>>728724898>the bubble WILL burstyeah, but not any time soon, everybody in power in the world is jerking himself off on the idea of firing all their employees and replace them with AI, they want it to be a succes, and they will throw a lot more money at it before they give up.
>>728725452If you have the money, 5090 but honestly not over MSRP5070ti or 5080 at MSRP if available.
>>728725487pretty lucky on the ps3 but that shitty solder will die one day
>>728725470Honestly, being a waitfag is basically edging. The jump to 4k120fps will blow my mind I'm sure, one day. But for now, I'm just fine.
What if they send a remote kill switch to our rams/GPUs?
>>728714748Yeah I upgraded to a 5060ti cheap during Black Friday sales and lucked out, same with a new M.2 I got a few months ago. RAM is going to fuck me though, already pushing $1k for 32gb
>>728725594they did that to gpus with starcraft 2
>>728725594Then there is bigger fish to fry than worrying about our entertainment box.
>>728725490Thing is, a grand is a reasonable price if you compare consoles to phones. Phones have had that as standard for a really long time now and enough people buy them at that price for companies to keep it there. Retards were buying scalped PS5s for around that, remember? Shit is going to get more expensive permanently is my guess.
>>728714365Don't care, just going to wait 10 more years with my GTX 295
>>728725789People don't buy a phone outright generally, they see it as an extra 30+ dollars on their monthly bill and tend to upgrade every few years.
>>728722158its a lost art. they have no idea how to anymore
>>728725789>Shit is going to get more expensive permanently is my guess.If the current trend of green line must go up continues then yes. If a company increases something in price then they aren't going to drop it even if the circumstances that semi-justified the increased price are resolved.It's just part of the absolute shit world we live in right now.
>>728725487>>728725581if it's a frankie PS3 that's undervolted it'll be fine. I do enjoy playing PS1 and PS2 on the PS3 since you don't need memory cards but controllers and cards ARE backwards compatible if you wanna use them. God, the PS3 is great, the last true PS.
>>728714365I'll just wait until Nvidia increases gaming GPU production. Waiting is ALWAYS an option.
>>728725789>>728725901a lot of providers, at least in america, subsidize the phones too. you'll get a new flagship phone for free.
>>728714365>They didn't buy when Trump-kuns retarded tariffs were startingSkill issue.
i'm to afraid to prompt knowing that i might kill my card in 2 years
>>728725901>they see it as an extra 30+ dollars on their monthly bill and tend to upgrade every few years.Pretty sure there has been some reports this year about phone makers bitching that people are actually just continuing to use their old phones instead of upgrading.It just highlights the wall that we are heading towards in that consumers have less and less money, but the companies don't want to accept that.
So what happens when the inevitable solar flare wipes out all the AI infrastructure
>>728725901People already pay in installments for tech, yes, I don't see why more wouldn't do that for consoles and PCs. >>728725956This is just making me glad I'm way more into retro vidya. The industry crash has come but it's in the worst way possible.
Switch 2 won
>>728716397Games? I use Blender.
>PC components price skyrocket >Peoples builds stagnate >This forces developers to make efficient games But we all know nothing will change and consolefaga will laugh at us
>>728726012I bought CPU and RAM. GPU release was too much of a shitshow to bother at that time.
Just brought a 5070ti, fuck kikes
Is always running hundreds of firefox tabs at the same time bad for my 1080?
5700x3d16gb3060tiis there no point in upgrading? especially as i only have a 550w psu.
>>728726181the ps6 will be at best a 9070xt tier of performance while also being affected by the shortages
>>728726181>consolefaga will laugh at usYou will have to play games that look as shitty and outdated as my console games HAHAHAHA
>>728726165I bought 7950x and 64GB ram purely for Blender and haven't done shit since.
>>728726181My viewpoint is that they are going to be super stubborn for the next year or so, and if it's still an issue at that point then they will start aiming at older PC hardware. Granted, I don't think this changes the fact that triple A is going to collapse.
>>728715581what the fuck is physical software?
>>728726228You should get the UnloadTabs extension desu
>>728726372discs and carts, nigger
>>728715325World Economic Forum. People there try to brand it as some sort of benevolent socialism, as if stuff will just be provided for you by the state, but we all know that's never going to happen beyond the most basic of sustenance and services.
>>728719146Lol, I can buy a 9070 xt at microcenter rn for 650 or i can buy a 5080 for ... no less than $1000. the 9070 clearly won here unless you like spending nearly double for ... 7 fps.
>>728726405but unloading tabs is already a feature on firefox?
>>728720516the problem is that every few years you need new HDD/SDDs because they deteriorate with use.
>>728726409so retro gaming stuff?
>>728726491I'm talking about manually unloading them even when firefox isn't about to crash
>>728720909until it dies of old age if you don't play the latest AAA memetracing niggercattleware
>>728722483I feel vindicated now that I bought both in June. 5090chads fucking won.
The cheapest RTX 5090 I can find is "Inno3D GeForce RTX 5090 X3 OC" for 2550€.Should I buy or get a 5070Ti? The end times scare me, and I've been on 1660S for 5 years now.
>>728726778linux
>>728714365>tfw got a 5070ti and 64GB of DDR5 in June for less than the 5070ti itself costs now.
>>728726778>1660SStinky. Buy what you can afford.
>>728725047>GTX 1660 Ti
>>728726884My 4070 ti super just werks for me on linux
>got a 5090 for just 2400€Feels good.
>>728720171Sooo uhhhh painted cardboard is the next thing to shoot up? I'm not planning to pay a subscription to stream shit through the internet. Rather buy chinese hardware with CCP operating system. It's not like i've been playing anything but gacha for the past 6 years and it's not like any of you will still be playing western games in the future either once your PCs croak.
>>728719510These are the people still high off the financial copium that AI is making them from investor funding. They have no idea as to the reality of the situation. Without a huge down trend in the scope and proposed used case of the tech, it will blow before 2030
>>728726913Define "afford"
>>728724226your ram is probably worth more than the laptop if it's not soldered in
>>728727064My $150 of Nvidia stock I bought 10 years ago is now worth $156,000I'm quite pleased with the AI "bubble"
What's my upgrade path from a 6800XT? 5070 feels like it has not enough RAM, 5080's price is retarded.I'd stay of AMD's offering if gamedevs didn't do their absolute best to fuck the consumers.
>>728727107Is ddr4 really worth a lot now? Fuck, i need to dig some sticks out of the carpet of my room
>>728727020>$3000 after taxripped off lmaonot even 50% faster than 9070xt thats $599
>>728714365>Nvidia won't be supplying the memory for cards anymore so manufacturers are probably going to pass that cost onto consumers>Now thisHoly fuck it just keeps getting worse
My 2022 Legion 5 still runs fine with its RTX 3060.
>>728727231DDR4 prices have raised a modest 250%DDR5 prices are over 500% more than they were a year ago, so it seems cheap by comparison, but it's still gone way up
>>728714365My rig will have to last me until at least 2028, maybe 2030. Should be able to do so easily, I went moderately overkill>>728714785AMD is going to cut their production too
>>728726575Not really. I still have 500GB drives from 15+ years ago. My 70TB NAS is from 2017. You just need something to protect from bitrot like ZFS.
>>728726164The funnest part is how Nintendo's stock dumped -20% already due to this RAM bullshit. What, does that fucking clown market believe Nintendo buys its RAM as-is day by day, that they didn't secure 5 years contracts last year already?If the dumbtards making the collective unconscious behind the stocks market's moves believe this, then I don't even want to know what kind of bullshit """AI""" lies they also believe in. This is fucking grim.
>create a bunch of proprietary technology>can exclusive run on nvidia hardware>industry adopts it>relies on it>nvidia ditches the game industry that relies on it>games look and run worse than they did 10 years ago>the downwards trend will accelerate even more
>>728726491Somehow I doubt this, I only have like 15 active tabs out of a shitload that are unloaded, yet Firefox is still eating up 12GB of fucking RAM right nowHow does that shit even happen is beyond me.
>>728727407the ram manufactures are all divesting, aren't they? even if they breach contract and cancel the orders they'll still come out ahead because ai data centers are paying multiple magnitudes more for ram and there's only 3 whole manufacturers worldwide.
>>728714914People keep saying that as if modern gaming PCs had any games of their ownThere would be some unique value there if MS's studios actually made some good shit and PC was this place that had both xbox and ps games, but so far the few ps games unreleased on pc still worth more than the entire xbox library that was ported to pc
>>728723585>bought a 4080 super in 2023why are you lying on the internet like this?
>>728726778the 5070Ti is perfect for 2k gaming
>>728714365thank you AI. Truly the achievement of all mankind
>>728714559No, Chinks will, like they always do. Expect a flood of LiLing DDR5 RAM and LongDong GPUs hitting the market soon.
SSD's and NVMe's are next
don't care still waiting
>>728727875i love china so much it's unreal
>>728726459>muh hecking price to performance ratioso why aren't you buying an ARC B580 then?
> Saw this shit coming> Bought a 9800x3d, 7900xtx and 64 GB of DDR5 back in February
>>728727875The Chinese need those for their AI race against the USA. Zhang can't help us.
>>728719349I dont care about scam altman either
>>728727020>2400 euros so he can play the latest bing bing wahoolmao
>>728719349Based Retard. He thinks he can reach sentience with a token binary system. https://www.tiktok.com/@marcusjcarterai/video/7357140235207118126
50% of world's problems would be solved if Burgers hanged all their giga rich and politicians
>>728728095China isn't dumping nearly as much capital into AI as the jewSA is. They're not even attempting to win the "race" it seems. Really makes you think.
>>72872863880% of the world problems would be solved if people from fucked up , underdeveloped low IQ countries stop having children instead of infesting the world
>>728727989why would you pay 50% more to get 10% more performance and shit drivers made by people who hate you?
>>728716397ive been enjoying abiotic factor and slime rancher 2 but they arent really machine heavy hitters. maybe doom the dark ages if it ever goes on a sale that isn't 'hey its 20 percent off, now it costs as much as a new game!'
>>728728095No, they really don't.
>>728728712China participating just a bit in AI was enough to make America have a meltdown and throw everything into AI. America is quite literally playing into China's hands.
I bought 10 5090's on cyber monday. I'm going to sell them for double soon.Feels good.
>>728728842>do nothing>winKek
>>728728638>>728728752>130% of the world's problem solved by doing bothIt's that easy?
5090 bros.... We won.
>>728728842They aren't really interested in the gen AI thing but more in integrating it into their everyday lives, which is smart. I'm grateful for the endless porn western AI models gave me but I know very well this can't go on forever.
>>728728638Just say the jews you fucked up Brazilian coward
>>728728842you know, that's actually truewe're speedrunning economic collapse right now out of fear that china will win the AI raceand china already realized LLMs are not the answer so they're safei should probably move
>>728728997look man we need jews and they need their golems ok? why? DON ASK WHY WE JUST DO OK?!??
>>728715785Because they want to make it so computer use is a subscription baded service.They want you to need to log into their service to use their computers on the cloud.
>>728714365I gradually upgraded from 2023 to 2025. Imagine waiting until THIS happens. lmao
>>728720167>the year is 2030>the pspissstream and the xboxyee release>they are literally just 800 dollar thin clients that connect to sony/xbox servers to stream gamesunfortunately for me and this market, i would rather pay 10 grand to actually own something
>>728714365well i guess i'm never upgrading but i also don't care because i only play games from 20 years ago anyway
>>728720406I wonder if they'll over expand manufacturing to meet the crazy demands right now, and when it all crashes the parts will all be dirt cheap and easily accessible
>>728729446iirc most of them have said they have no interest in doing that, probably because they know this demand isn't going to last forever so they're just making short term profits and then they'll come crawling back to consumers around 2028. unless ai really explodes in that time which is unlikely.
>>728714365>Devs are now forced to optimize their shit to reach wider audienceThank you Nvidia
>>728714365Waitfags BTFO, but there isn't a GPU shortage past launch windows.
>>728729548That's pretty annoying, so they're just completely tossing their customers to the side to suck off a.i. companies without a care in the world, the worst part is it wont matter a bit because they'll be so godforsaken rich afterwards it wouldn't matter if every last one of us never bought from them again.
>>728727530Check about:processes I have like 400 unloaded tabs and 100 active and I'm using 900mb ram.
>>728715813Hahaha satellites will be falling out of the sky soon
>>728729446why spend ten billion dollars to make a factory to produce more chips when you could just have the same amount of chips and sell them for a higher price because the demand is lower than the supply and retards are throwing infinite money at you?there is literally no reason for them to ramp production, they have all the power. they could say "oh yeah prices are up 250% because reason, suck our dicks" and AI companies would have to kowtow to them.
>>728729837kek, on top of using those 12GB or RAM I mentioned, this about:process shows me it's ALSO using 7GB of my GPU's own RAMThis is insane.
>>728714365This was obvious, Capcom was smart to limit their graphics moving forward 2026 to work in weaker PCs. They definitely had information about this crap.
>>728726119solar flares have literally never in human history been substantial. either that, or everything is designed to withstand it (more likely). faraday cages offer some protection, why wouldn't these companies burning billions of dollars not install those too?
>>728729836the actual small ram manufacturers are getting fucked too because there's 3 companies that produce all of it stuff that the aftermarket brands need. so even if 1 ram company like tgroup wanted to only sell to consumers it doesn't matter because samsung, micron(aka crucial, who has already said they'd stop consumer sales), and sk hynix can make a deal that directly benefits data centers instead and then the smaller ram manufacturers are fucked just like us. samsung won't even sell ram to their own phone division, it's THAT bad.
>>728730323the fuck is this post? the fuck is MHWilds then?
the only thing i want to upgrade is my CPU, will they get fucked too? also where should i go from a 5600X
>>728714365Guess I'll just wait longer.
>>728730323Capcom saw that people play MH World instead of MH Wilds and realized that having your game run at 30FPS isn't good
>>728730380>why wouldn't these companies burning billions of dollars not install those too?because that costs money and executives chase short term profits over long term planning
>>728730227If it's using your GPU that much it's probably some of the retarded AI shit they added. Look how to disable it here https://askubuntu.com/a/1556089
>>728714679I bought a 5080 on launch because I wanted to beat tariff pricing. Looks like that was an even better decision than I thought.
>>728714559they are gonna fuck it up like usualthey really need to support more programs especially things like ComfyUI/diffusion instead of having random people find work arounds to get their cards to workhad to get a 5070ti (Win10 ltsc) for second system to get shit to work properly while 9070xt is for gaming on linux>>728717340they are not wrong that AMD will continue to fuck up their easy chance to get more customersshould have given the 9070XT 24gb instead of 16gb the same goes with Nvidia with the 5080 and 5070ti
>>728727407Do you really think that companies would agree on a price for the next five years in a market like this? Even if Nintendo has its supply contracts, they will certainly have to pay much more for RAM in the near future.
>>728716229>5 years oldYou'll be good for about another 7 years or even more, depends on how much unoptimized slop you play.
>>728730380>solar flares have literally never in human history been substantialthe Carrington Event in 1859caused telegraph systems yo be distracted
Can't tell if I should upgrade my 3080 to a 5080. 10gb of vram kinda sucks but I was really holding off until 6000 series.
>>728715179It's AI though and when the bubble pops the market will be flooded with tons of NVIDIA GPUs/AI accelerators.
>>728730774>6000 seriesNot happening, ever. Once the 5000 series is depleted Nvidia will announce they're out of the gaming market and will cease all consumer GPU and driver development.
>>728717013devs don't deserve to eat
>>728730774If it's just for video games, no. Just adapt to the 10GB by reducing the game settings.If you're doing other things that require RAM, such as generating porn videos of your female friends and family, 3D rendering, etc., then 10GB really isn't enough and you'll need to upgrade regardless of the price.
>>728730774Phones are already reverting back to 4gb of ram, the next GPUs might be 12gb again. Or worse, 8gb and they'll try to get DLSS to compensate.
>devs hearing they have to optimize their games
>>728730713>muh vram for aiyou and your retarded kin are the problem
>>728730773>A geomagnetic storm of this magnitude occurring today has the potential to cause widespread electrical disruptions, blackouts, and damage to the electrical power grid.>for a whopping day and a halfmmm, i just don't see that as a very big deal. i goad the sun to try to do better. you wont, PUSSY. we might as well rename our sun, "PUSSY BITCH" is a better name. i look up and spit. and by the way the lions would win, they have heart
>>728714559AMD is smart, that’s why they don’t give a shit about PC gamers who never bought their cards anyway.
>>728730998That's what you think. They're gonna keep releasing unoptimized shit for years to come because they're just going to assume everyone plays on a 5090 with a 9800X3D at 1080p like they do with their dev kits.
>>728731047This. If you want to do AI, get a Mac. 512GB of VRAM for under 10k. Nvidia and AMD cannot offer that.
>>728730412RE9 will run on Switch 2 aka it will have much lower reqs than Dogma 2 or Wilds.
Can't wait for the R;N timeline
>>728714559They are, they are making truckloads selling to AI companies aswell
I'm on a 3070 right now and was thinking about buying a 5070ti, but I just don't think I can afford it, I'm too much of a poorfag, I honestly think I have to go with a base 5070. I wanted to get something slightly more future proof but
>>728731327its not vram in the same sense as you see in nvidia gpus its apple shared memory shit . also no cuda
>>728731327That's retarded to spend 10k on, there are so few uses for that much vram without the compute to handle training or even CUDA support. A 5090 would actually be better and it plays games too.
>>7287315395070's still good, it just depends on what you're trying to push with it and what resolution/frames.
>people out here in panic.>ddr 4 is still accessible >still rocking a 1060>only thing that chugs is AAA Slop but can still run everything good regardlessYou will never know such joys being that panicked all the time
>>728731539>buying a card with under 16GB vramngmi
>>728731539I can easily afford a 5070 Ti, but there's really nothing my 3070 cannot do. It plays every game at 1440p just fine, maybe with some settings lowered to get 120fps+.
I don't follow news at all, so I just looked up what my 2023 build costs now32GB Kingston DDR5 RAM, was $100, now $5001TB Samsung NVMe, was $100 for TWO, now $200 for ONEYeah, guess I'm not upgrading my 3060 ti anytime soon lmaoAnd this is why games like Silksong and Hades 2 will be more and more popular. They run extremely well on years old hardware. Fuck AAA and let it die.
>>7287250474090the 50xx series is trash and the only feature it has is fake frames
>>728731539>5070>12gblolget a 9070, you can flash it to be almost as good as a 9070xt
>>728731901They patched back the 32-bit PhysX support like a week ago, it's fine now.
>>728731783Hollow Knight mogs every modern AAA game in gameplay and art directionit running on a toaster is just a bonus
>>728731979Those drivers that fix the issue are complete and utter trash.
>>728731979I stand by my original statement
>>728731783hades 1 and 2 both suck but otherwise true
>>728731979>updating driversISHYGDDT
I hate jews
>>728732135the hell is the obsession with the oo sound?
>>728732135nigger you can barely see the green text
>>728726459that's a lot of words for "I lost"
>>728729018They laughed at us but now we have the last laugh
I need to buy more storage, I think my system specs should last for a while
>>728731539should have done it when paypal was giving 20% off, they were MSRP at Newegg
>bought a 4090 on april 2023, when GPU prices were at their lowestI'm a fucking genius
>panicked and bought a prebuilt in the christmas saleI paid 1800 bongs for 7800x3d, 5070ti and 32gb ddr5 6000mhz.
I hate having to maybe be forced to buy a GPU right when the generation is at its halfpoint. If prices decreased over time, I wouldn't care, but as they do not, then the only right move is to buy on day 1 of the generation's launch.I HATE THIS.
>>728715395Hdd>can last 30+ years>they basically tell you when they are about to die>when HDDs "die" its usually just a motor issue and the actual discs are fine(500+ year lifespan)>Data is effortlessly recoveredSsd>Nands work fantastically until they just suddenly die>Then the thing is garbage and the data is unrecoverable>its basically unknown how long ssds last on average because they are so new(both for nvme's and sata) but anything over 10 years is thought be at riskBasically ssds are good for performance and HDD's are good for actual storage and you are retarded for not having both
>>728732308We'll be laughing into the next 3 years I think! Feels good.
I have a 5070 Ti, is that good? I bought this computer on Amazon
>>728732371>I'm a fucking genius
>>728732451I'm not mentally ill so I don't need to hoard shit.
My rig is 6 years old. I thought I could push it longer but from the looks of it I need to bite now. I'm probably being played but fuck it, I have the money.
>people not thinking about buying spare RAM parts from local cash shop converters
>dead before it even launchedSad, Valve really fucked up the timing
>>728732270You're a massive retard
>>728732821you were never its target audience dumbass
>>728732951I doubt there are retards lining up to buy it for $2-3k lmao
>already have a decent build but was workshopping some builds for the future>had some parts picked out sitting in pcpartpicker>two months ago: $598>now: $974
>>728732592>I'm not mentally illno, you're just genuinely too young to have experienced something that's happened multiple times already
>>728733013nevermind, if you're that stupid when it comes to understanding hardware then maybe you are
>>728723203>because there's no viable alternativeSplitting hairs here, but it's not windows itself which lacks alternatives. It's the software which has chosen to stay exclusive to windows. If we're talking about operating systems, practically every alternative is comparable or superior to windows.
>>728725047IS THAT A MAN RIDING A SHRIMP!?https://youtube.com/shorts/yRjr7pnhpJ4?si=fJJte-WmyF1oYRu6
This hobby has been fucked since 2020. Scalped GPU prices turned into the regular price but at least memory and storage was cheap but now even that's going away. These higher prices don't go away, that's just the new price now.
>>728733075You should have killed yourself when you lost your CP fap folder, unc
>>728733194>hears about internet takedowns>immediately thinks of CPyou are brown
>Bought last yearI really should have just 128GB of ram instead of 64 when I had the chance.
>>728715561theyll just break your shit to make you upgradeive had 3 pcs and a ps4 break software only since 2021 and nobody in the dc area will fix themtheyll just say lol bro no win 11 no servicefuck the child raping false god jesus thereis no omnipotence
Just wait til China starts producing pc parts, you'll be getting 80% of performance with 20% of the price
>>728723060you want my 2 centsget a 10 seiries gaming pc or a amd gaming pc and lock it the fuck down with linux and play old shit
>>728734242just keep a fire extinguisher next to your rig
>>728734242You mean the year they'll launch their stupid assault on Taiwan? Yeah I'm sure we'll get low price parts from them in such conditions.
>>728716045jokes on the kikes i can upgrade to a 5800x3d with my am4 motherboard and buy a rx 6800 or some bullshit and not upgrade for like 8 years lol
>>728733136cool nobodys buying and the money laundering is going to run out
its over...
>>728734352Too bad a 5700X3D or 5800X3D can't be found anymore at non-retarded prices.You thought you were the only one having this good idea? Too bad, it's the only AM4 upgrade path, and you are late already.5950X can still be found at reasonable prices though, but a 3D CPU would have been better for gayman.
>>728732915You lost
>>728729139America also knows LLMs are all corporate bullshit but America is run by corporations, the "4th industrial revolution" pantomime continues till they make their money.
>>728732451ssds will lose write access but you will still be able to read data from them/back up from a failing drive
>>728731234Translation: They're going to assume people aren't playing on 2500ks with a 1060.>>728732135Reminder that being a believer in the "updating BAD" soijak mindset is what caused the april hack.
>>728735006>2500ks with a 1060Seriously why is it ALWAYS 2500K and a 1060 (or a 970)?
>>728735179Because the 2500K and 1060 were exceptionally good for the price.
>>728714365No
