Fallout is dead. Bury it.
>>728717472Sorry wrong board, I meant to post this on >>>/tv/
>>728717648it's about Fallout 5 you dumb bitch
>>728717648/v/ and /tv/ are just media-related extensions of /pol/ anyway
Todd will be retired before a Fallout 5 starts preproduction
>>728717648fpbp
>>728717472kek Fallout has never been more alive in its entire history No, the only thing dead is your fairy tale delusional fantasy of what Fallout is supposed be. The sooner that worthless vermin like you leave the better.
I already hate that they touched on the west coast at all and now it seems like he's implying that they're going to make a game in the west coast. Gay.
The show already appears in Fallout 76 which means everything in it is canon to the games, this is not news
>>728717984is this supposed to make me feel better about the future of Fallout?
>>728717972He just means they're in the same universe
>>728717472>fallout 5didn't microsoft rip that game out of bethesda's cold withered hands? It's gonna be coming in like 8 years anyway so who fucking cares.
Fallout 5 isn't coming out until like 2033 at the earliest, anything said now means nothing.
>>728717472Yeah. That would have been the smart thing to do if Fallout 5 was already in production and anywhere near being released. But Bethesda was too busy dicking around with Shartfield and adding more things to buy to Fallout 76 to actually make a new Fallout game to capitalize on their highly successful TV show. So now in 10 years when they finally shit Fallout 5 out, it'll make references to a show that people have already long since forgotten. Brilliant. Bethesda needs to start licensing out the Fallout IP again since they clearly can't handle the workload
>>728717472nobody gives a single fuck lolwe will continue to play 4 3 and nv foreverif you break them with updates we will switch to pirated copiesfuck kikerosoft and kikethesda softworks
>>728717831Originally 5 wasn't going to happen until after Elder Scrolls 6, but they decided to put it into production sooner because of the success of the show. It's still going to be another 3-5 years until we see it, but it probably actually has hit pre-production.>>728717972More than likely 5 will be middle america/east coast, but you'll have the show's characters continue to move east with each season.
>the NNCR
>>728717472>the inevitable, insanely destructive reset on anything approaching proper civilization is confirmed canon alreadyI don't understand why fallout games are obsessed with staying a shitty rural apocalyptic as if the bombs fell a week ago as opposed to 200 years yet they KEEP pushing forward on the timeline. let the world rebuilding shit be the future and just set every game before it, what is so hard about that?
>>728717472'The Fallout TV show will be canon'Cool. All that had to be said
>>728717472Correction, Tranny.New Vegas is dead.New Vegas SUCKS.pin it to your blouse.
>>728718360>staying a shitty rural apocalyptic as if the bombs fell a week ago as opposed to 200 yearsHave you seen your average zoomer and Gen Alpha retard? It would take AT LEAST 200 years for them to figure out how to build mudhuts again
This is the ultimate proof that Bethesda loathed New Vegas because of its better reputation with hardcore Fallout fans.Yes, they make a gorillion dollars off of their Fallout but a non-insignificant chunk of the series fans completely disregarding their contributions is a massive hit to their pride.How do you fix this? Tear down the old setting to its foundations then blow it up. Now all you have it ours going forward, take it or leave it. You take it and they make money, you leave it and you're relegated to the past which is easily ignored.
>>728718032The present and future of Fallout are identical
The show fucking killed Todd off
>>728718530TODD IS DEADAND NO ONE CARESIF THERE'S SKYRIM 2I'LL SEE YOU THERE
>>728718360>200 years after the war everyone is still living squalor and worse of it all, living besides radioactive waste.Japan was bombed twice and look at how fast they bounced back in like 50 years.
>>728717923low tier bait
>>728717472What did I tell you? The future is bleak.
fallout 5 demands>made on new modern engine>no more locked frame rate jank physics bullshit>playable races, each with their own starting location>vault dweller, raider and ghoul>beat game on hard to unlock super mutant>add khajiit on april 1st
>>728718360because there's no other way to keep our AESTHETIC and our MEMBERBERRIES intact, we CANNOT let either of those go or the bottom line will become a fucking CRATER
>>728718530He's finally 6'0'' now. This show made Todd's dream come true.
>>728718779Its not bait if hes wrong though.
>>728718530Not only are settlements like Novac destroyed (for no apparent reason) but there's shacks where people have off to survive off eating fleas. It's just bizarre, established places like Primm or Goodsprings exist and are in the main quest, but all of that has to die because Redditors are in love with absolute retardation.
>>728718639It's easier to rebuild when you still have modern society, technology, and infrastructure to help you rebuild. What the "omg its been 200 years why isn't society normal again yet" retards don't understand is that they're basically starting from scratch in the Fallout world. Yes, they can scavenge some bits and pieces from the old world, but that's it. You don't have other countries to rely on for trade. You don't have factories running, you don't have the internet. It's a reset back to the stone age. So yes, it takes hundreds of years to rebuild. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were bombed, but they still had the rest of the country to help them rebuild. They had a power grid. Running water. Phone lines. Roads. It's completely different in the Fallout world
I'm still fucking mad about putting vault 33 right next to the fucking cathedral.
>>728718948right*
>>728717472Purely from a business perspective that makes sense, and it's honestly stupid that they had absolutely nothing lined up to coincide with the release of the show when it first aired.
>>728718869>curious enough to see how people are talking about the show on social media>OMG the great khans ruined novac i'm so mad!!>I cried at Jingle Jangle Jingle such nostalgiaIs it normal to feel insulted? NV is one of the most culturally relevant games there is and people are eager to see them jingle keys with Thing From The Game without interesting context or regard for the actual original writing.
>>728719014you literally come across hundreds of fully functioning generators and steal the still working nuclear batteries out of them constantly in fo4. the setting is not nearly as fucked as you're implying
>>728719014>Basically starting from scratch>When vaults, manufacturing plants, powerplants are all still in tact.You sound like you never played any of the fallout games at all. You have one faction that has fucking vertibirds, flying aircraft carriers, well maintained power armor and somehow they still live in shithole conditions and they didn't even bother rebuilding the areas that they occupy?
>>728719014Didn't the US also get nuked by like several amounts of Fat Men and Little Boy type nukes? Plus invasion from Chinese military? cmon man, not a single US solider was in Hiroshima and Nagasaki seeing as literally they got nuked to hell. Anyone in the DZ was dead or permanently scarred.
how the FUCK did dr. lesko obtain FEV for his retarded fire ant experiments
>>728717472You're 15 years late
>>728718949that was a roadside food vendor retardit's in no way indicative of the level of surrounding settlements
>>728718836>>beat game on hard to unlock super mutantThe most god tier vidya trope
>>728719014>They had a power grid. Running water. Phone lines. Roads.The issue is that the NCR literally had all of that by fallout 2, which the show takes place 50 years later from.
>>728719014So does the Fallout world, dipshit.You repair a fucking nuke plant in 2. The NCR has universities and factories. There's enough excess capital floating around for luxury resorts and gambling. There's minted currency backed by gold. You know nothing about Fallout.
>that twink peaks coffee referenceI cannot believe they did this
Fargo wins, flawless victory
I think I’ll just stick to the trilogy of fallout - fallout nv and take any and every opportunity to spread my asshole and drop sulfuric poopoo snakes into the mouths of anyone who tries to talk back
After last night's thread, I'm always going to crack a little grin wondering if one of the disproportionately angry people is the schizo that went hundreds of posts thinking everyone making fun of him was a single guy.
>>728718948Man Fallout really does owe 99% of its success to Elder Scrolls doesn't it?>Fallout 3 sells like gangbusters because it's marketed as 'Oblivion with guns'>Fallout 4 sells like gangbusters because it's marketed as 'Skyrim with guns'They better hope TES6 is good.
>>728719014Within the first 1.5 hours of fallout you go to a village where the majority of its citizens say >life is is Bretty gud outside of boredom and the once in a blue moon external threat that we have to face You silly cumstain
Dont cry because its over, smile because it happened
>>728717472Fallout 5 isn't coming out until 2035 at a minimum so dont worry about it
>>728719242It’s clearly the modern Twin Peaks chudMinus the mystery, provocative actresses, dialogue, and no-nigger-zone
>>728717472Only the first game is canon. Even the second isn't canon because it was just Whacky 90s Pop Culture References: The Game.
She won
>>728717472Why do women and their simps literally ruin every hobby they touch?
>>728719293Fallout 5 will be Starfield with guns
>errruhm we are going to make the tee vee show canon nowBruh
>>728719393based
Can somebody tell me why there isn't a single Super Mutant in the entire Fallout TV series?
>>728719369>Being this assblasted because they didn't bite off Lynch more>One of the most already copied creators in tv/movies and even vidyahahahahaa, nooo you have to copy him like I said so!
>>728719014Hmmmnnn but not really and most people in the NcR settled cities are going to work and taking showers or going to school or listening to music or going to the movies or taking a drive in their freshly minted highwayman and so on and so forth
>>728719448It's pretty easy to do when it's an IP you don't give a fuck about ie Fallout
>>728719340Todd is crying about NV happening till this day
Who the fuck even wants Fallout 5?
>>728717472>i-it's not cannon. why do you care about the show "ruining" the lore?!Where are you faggots now?
>>728719517They're saving it like how there's gonna be one big Deathclaw sceneThe trailer already gave away that Ron Perlman is gonna be playing/voicing a super mutant
>>728719517West coastWait a minute...
>>728719517they can't find any green actors
>>728719548A lot of people not on /v/, honestly. Bethesda/Microsoft are retards and dropped the ball not having something lined up with the show, but that tracks honestly.
>>728719548me nigga.
>>728719548The 25 million people who loved Fallout 4, one of the most successful PC games ever made?
>>728719234Made extra funny by the first season having this whole power generation plot, despite LA being a major city in the NCR with banks and colleges.
Fallout 5 wont be out until liek 2032 so who gives a shit
Hope you're happy you fucking dolt.You gave them the green light to nuke the entire setting by opening your dumbass mouth.
>>728719203>that was a roadside food vendor retard>it's in no way indicative of the level of surrounding settlementsNo, this is a roadside food vendor. They keep cattle and have a source of clean water. How is anybody surviving off eating fleas? It's retarded and Reddit. If anything the Grub n' Gulp is indicative of the Vegas area since it represents the roads are used by traders, which makes sense because what the fuck would Fiends or Khans be robbing if not them?
>>728719517Racist analogue for niggers, so they got axed. This is not a joke I'm dead serious. Lawd dem rangs got so much shit for portraying orcs sympathetically by one side, as well as perpetuating the orcs=brown people meme by the other, they decided to just not open that can of worms at all to avoid getting flak from both sides of the fence again.
>>728719727And arroyo and vault city and the ghoul town and San Francisco with its magical plants and revitalized ecosystem
>>728719651They wanted it to make 76 more popular. It goes on sale all the time. They'd rather shill their microtransaction piece of shit barely functional multiplayer shit than make something that will distract from it and kill it for good. You are getting gamebryo fallout 76 for the next 15 fucking years.
>>728718891
>>728718032I don't know what did you expect? Fallout is dead since 2009.
>>728719803>Source: Trust me bro I know.
>>728719803There's a super mutant in the first trailer retard
>>728719803Retard
>>728719014This would almost make sense if there wasnt already two full games proving you wrong, and multiple quests in modern games helping you FUCKIN REESTABLISH WHOLE FUCKING POWER PLANTS, but none of you zoomer retards played 1 or 2 so go fuck yourselves.
>>728719674Why go for those retards when you can go for the 50 million who prefer Fallout 3 or the 75 million who like New Vegas?
>>728719865>>728719926>>728719951>ReeeeeeeeeeeeeeeA scene from a brief exposition flashback doesn't count as having super mutants in the show fags.
For a franchise that has always been about what happens to humanity once the post apocalypse is over, dingelberries sure like to pretend that 200 years later everyone is still drowning in piss and shit despite that not being the case well before the start of the first game
>>728719143>Is it normal to feel insulted?Yeah, it's pretty normal to feel insulted when something you liked is boiled down into something simple and marketable with only the faintest elements of what made it compelling in the first place.
>>728717472Fallout TV show was always canon. The Ghoul even shows up in 76.
>>728720113>Already moving the goalposts
>>728720053My number wasn't an asspull
>>728719517Wouldn't they all be dead from old age?
>>728720113>there's no super mutant because buzzwords/ragebait>trailer has a super mutantfaggot
>>728719548Don't ask me, only reddit retards still love this butchered franchise.
>>728717472It's morphed from an RPG to an FPS with light RPG elements. ADHD Gen A cant into VATS and arent creative enough to roleplay a character (most of the time the character they play as is just an analogue of themselves) so they've been shaving off the RPG elements over the years to appeal to that demographic.
>>728719182Why do you think megaton is called megaton champ, ill give ya a guess to the yield of the bomb sittin in there. (hiroshima was 25 kilotons, with nagasaki being considerably smaller than that)
>>728720187I think this screenshot is inaccurate only because it implies Bethesda doesn't understand what they're doing. Of course they could hire people who could write something comparable to the 2D Fallout games because they did that before. No, Bethesda understands that veering into a Borderlands style of total nonsense and telling the RPG nerds to get fucked is more profitable. It makes way more money. Money is what matters more than anything. Nobody is going to sit and carve out a deep nuance world when they can just please a much larger body of much dumber customers by having a cowboy shoot dinosaurs in a scenario that doesn't make any sense.
I bet there will be a scene where the D lister talks about how he was almost recruited to fight on an oil rig and how everyone who went died and was blown up
>>728720287The only goal post that was moved is the one in your ass faggot. They can't just retcon the existence of super mutants entirely as much as they'd like to, so you only get to see them in flashbacks intended to catch normgroids up on what they missed in the games they never played and don't care about.
>>728720384anon reddit is not representative of the majority anything anymore than /v/ is. it's all bubbles all the way down.
>>728720308uh huh, I'm sure it wasn't a ass pull by Todd. That why the number is so round and even, LMAO.
>>728720397also the current writers are Tumblr fan-fic brained Millennials so they retcon the Chinese out of dropping the nukes and turn the story into le capitalism bad
>>728719196pipe down retard, even 76 has similar numbers of current players
>>728719014You’re right and anons are seething lol
>>728720187I mean you could always just play 1 and 2 and maybe NV for the rest of your life. any modern fans are eating good though. And you will continue to seethe at them
>>728718042No means he's a hack and we will never see new York. Who the fuck wants this.
>>728720559He's not and clearly neither of you know anything about fallout lol
>>728720483nta but lot of asspulling you're doing to get pre-angry about something you made up in your headyou could try not being a retard and actually wait to see instead of blatantly making shit up
>>728719785I’m glad Chris Avellone did it. I genuinely like the universe more as a wasteland. He was right.
>>728720593>seetheIt's just anons shitting on those with lesser standards who happen to be younger than them. The same way the world has always worked in reality.
>>728720559Just because you say its right doesnt mean it is you baffling fucking buffoon. >>728719864yea dead games totally get 15k players today, shut the fuck up
>>728717472They already said the show is canon when season 1 came out
>>728719798>which makes sense because what the fuck would Fiends or Khans be robbing if not them?The dirt traders, who sell dirt to the garbage people in exchange for 300 year old rations which they eat in the capital city of Shit Town, which consists of 4 people and a skeleton.
>>728720340No, as long as FEV exists they can always create more super mutants.
>>728719014Anon the scale issue is the west coast in fact was already rebuilding after 60 years. And Bethesda intentionally blew up those places to keep their stoneage theme park.
>>728720653different anon but I'm likely your age or older, been playing RPGs since the Gold Box games and the modern games are fine.
>>728720750Yes but that'd only be possible in the Military Base ruins which would be rightly clamped down by NCR.
>>728717472Wow thank you Todd, very gay!
>>728718836The best Todd can do is make every single prompt a percentage-based number and remove perks... Sorry, Anon.
>>728720637Sure, better hurry to the trough though, Bethesda is ringing the dinner bell and bringing out the slop buckets.
The TV show doesn't even understand that the overwhelming majority of people in the setting are fully competent and in control of their faculties. And instead pretends the majority of the world are dogass dumbfuck mad max whackadoodles. Which has never been the case either. In the fact in fallout most people have steady employment as guards/merchants/farmers/accountants/manufacturers
>>728717472And when is Fallout 5 even supposed to come out? Elder Scrolls 6 JUST started development like a year ago, so they'll need another 4-5 years on that before they can even finish TES6 and start development on Fallout 5. Fallout 5 is unironically vaporware at the moment. It won't even come out until 2035ish at the very fucking earliest
>>728720541Todd literally never lies
>>728717746as it should be
>>728720804>implying FEV being west tek exclusive matters anymoreThey had it in west virginia 20 years after the war, nothing matters.
>season 2 premiered yesterday>seen zero actual discussion of any episodes in particular, only broad-strokes discussion of the show did it flop?
>>728721019There's only one episode out so far.
>>728717472Who cares? 3, 4 and 76 were already terrible.It doesn't really make much of a difference if the retarded tv show is made canon.
>>728719014Yeah but the industrial revolution happened in less than twohundred years and north america is the most resource rich place in the world next to russia. Its why no one gives a single fuck what any country does but these two in particular. Peel the layers of decadence, hypersocial faggotry, fake politics and dunning kruger navel gazing away and this is all that actually matters besides warm bodies to labor in exploitation of said resources. The only reason we're not doing that is this ridiculous ongoing planned economy experiment.You could glass north america and there'd be a new civilization there in less than fifty years in places where the water cycle cleans radiation efficiently, which also happen to be where all the steel and coal is. It would develop even more rapidly with all the red taped obsessed beaurocats reduced to black stains on a wall or suffocating in bunkers after a redneck shits down a ventilation intake at raven rock.
>>728721019I saw a 500+ post thread earlier today
>>728721019Look around you, do you really think anyone who watches the show wants to talk about it in this shitheap of a website?
>>728720187>2025>Ulysses was rightBravo Avellone
>>728717472Grim
>>728721105True, normalfags and underage shitposters drag down the quality of everything.
>>728721019There's only one episode so not much to discuss. We did have a thread yesterday when a NVtroon exposed himself though.
>>728721104actual thread or schizo spammer thread?
>casually rapes your eyes
>>728721019It's your typical western hollywood/comic book slop >you're going to heckin learn to do what you have to do for survival plot You know, the typical mass appeal for dumb normies.
>>728720187>>728721131lmao get fucked soilysses
Fallout died with Lonesome Road. A graceful death.
>>728721195she cute THO
>>728717472jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesus h. christ, almighty...
How would the khan gangbangers manage to take over novac? NCR soldiers just passing by would have mass executed them if they saw them on the road. There's foot traffic that armed merchants and just people making their weekly commute would have taken up arms and killed them off as well.
>>728721309impressive cross-eye skills. yes, i just tried doing this and couldn't do it.
>>728721373Why are the khans even there? Every NV ending has them dead, enslaved, or two states away.
>>728720442If Bethesda was self-aware they wouldn't do things like embarrass themselves with the Sean "twist" in Fallout 4. They're just retarded.
>>728718032Why did you have any positive expectations after 4? How did you continue deluding yourself after 76?
Its very nice that Bethesda basically gave the okay to never ever look forward to their games again.
>>728721190Real thread, mostly sperging about changes to the New Vegas setting/characters>>728721373I don't even know if the NCR exists in this version of New Vegas. Shady Sands was nuked and the last NCR headquarters was based in the Griffith Observatory before it got BTFO by the BoS.
>>728720053>50 million who prefer Fallout 3>75 million who like New Vegas
>hear "War never changes" offscreen>characters whip around>it's Ron Pearlman in full Hellboy makeup
>>728721549>
>>728721576Read the thread, that pic has already been debunked
>>728720745>>728719798grr i am a nu-fallout raider!! i am a bad guy and i shoot stuff and drugs!! evil!!! how does our organization actually work?? shut up!!! blood!! killing and stuf!!! im a rust raider!!! we raid people who have literally nothing of value!!! we are the metal slicers!!! we slice people!!! metal scrap rads rust devil blood!!!! what do we even do all day?? we are raiders!! we decorate a place with scrap and we patrol it all day!! we sit down on the raider couch and have a raider beer!! we leave notes behind to our raider friends to talk about raider stuff!! thats it!!
>>728721660quote the evidence then
>>728717472Todd is a shell of a man at this point. He’s worked his whole career from the bottom up developing other people’s ideas into things people love and then he got his golden ticket, he got his OWN ToddIP! And it was awful. Nobody liked it and even the people with the ability to take the bones of it and turn it into something new and different weren’t interested. So he releases that one game he did really well on again and again, year after year.
>>728721373>Legion literally right across from Novac>Somehow the people that ding it first are raiders from halfway across the MojaveBravo Todd.
>>728721850Yeah man have you been to a ghetto or a hood? Its literally the same MO.
>>728721248Modern day fallout is so fucking ass, they can't even try to replicate what made the series special, shown in the picture by Ulysse lack of dreads and attachement to his pass tribe.Congrazt, you played yourself, lmao.What a perfect analogy to what Ulysses was talking about.
>>728720187>>728721131>new vegas is so well written it gets /v/ to understand the concept of cultural appropriation
>>728721574>Shady Sands was nuked and the last NCR headquarters was based in the Griffith ObservatoryAre we just going to assume every other major settlement in california also got nuked or just doesn't exist?
>>728717472>building the foundation of your new game on a show watched by a majority female audienceUh-oh. Who’s going to tell him?
I knew this was their move, just like to set up Skyrim they made books to fill in the gaps. However none of that had anything to do with the game whatsoever
*saves your franchise*
>>728722001thats what the show is asserting
>>728722001>Are we just going to assume every other major settlement in california also got nuked or just doesn't exist?Yes. It's Bethesda logic. If you don't see it, it doesn't exist.
>>728721971Was Honest Hearts morally correct or missionaries are>b-but it's different mkay??
>>728721971hahaha. >No! its not good when you do it to muh vidya! Stop it!
>>728717746correct.
>>728722107That's fucking retarded and the only way to have an acceptable ending is if the NCR rolls up with their freshly manufactured war machines and tanks etc
>>728722001you tell me, anon.Did you see ANYTHING that implies Junktown, The Boneyard, The Hub, Arroyo, Broken Hills, Vault City, Necropolis, San Francisco, Redding, The Den, Modoc or Lost Hills still exist in the show?
It feels like a room of 30-50 year old women read the fallout wiki and went>we could totally put this in the script the fans would think it's so coolIt is just nonsense, millennial writing and bollywood visuals, the Amazon special.
>>728721971The only people who complain about cultural appropriation are the people whose culture isn't being appropriated, however.
>>728722280Well the Boneyard yeah since it's set there, show forgot Shady Sands was half a state away. Fuck is going on with Lost Hills as well? Brotherhood were just using an above ground military base for some fucking reason.
I don't really understand the seethe. Show's pretty good
>"they are AMERICANS... the Vault turned them into... COMMUNISTS" *gasp*Funniest shit I've ever heard
>>728722378Oh yeah, name three better vidya shows then no, name 1 if you can name just one I will kneel and concede. And don't say Last of Us because we'll both know its a lie.
>>728722001This is Bethesda’s fallout. They think everyone is actually stripping down old guns and infrastructure and modern manufacturing and qualities and comforts of life is impossible to replicate
I finally like fallout 4 after not viewing it as an rpg or even a real fallout game
So I'm guessing House used a body double for public appearances? Two different actors
>>728722596yeah there's a preview snippet and you see cooper riding and elevator with the mr house double on the way to the penthouse of the lucky 38 to meet real house
>>728722527It could be the best vidya media of all time outside of actual vidya and it still would not be worth watching.It is a bad show, cope with that however you like.
>>728722480Well yeah they aren’t going to pretend that’s a good or acceptable thing. No one with common sense would
>>728722541Yeah, most probably don't know the NCR rifles are post war creations.
>>728722596Yeah, that's a funny way to do a recasting while also keeping in character with House's neuroticism.
>>728722470the pre war bits are fucking dog shit
But who are these COMMUNISTS that America was fighting against? Where did they come from?
>>728722787China
>>728722824Now now, canon show lore only.
>>728722787Brainwashing machines
>>728719393all studio-based products should be considered to be canon or not on an individual basis.>studio a creates a good game>studio b takes over, creates a shitty sequel>people waste a ton of energy bitching and complaining and urging them to do betterreally tiring
>>728717746Damn, /pol/ fucking sucks.
>>728722787They /are/ speaking fucking Chinese
>>728722990You suck, newfag.
>>728723048No he’s right. India nd SEAfags tend to suck
So, what are the lore implications of two Mr. Houses
>>728717472That was established when the show began
>>728722720The humor is in the over-the-top reaction specifically to the communist part, and not the forced torture part
>>728722163pretty funny how some people actually do this in real life. imagine spending seven fucking years in some nobody "elite" school just to read fucking "philosophy" n shit...
>We here at Bethesda just love New Vegas so very much and hold it in such high esteem that we are going to completely dismantle everything about the game then make it canon so it can never be revived without our taint.TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODD
>>728721660still waiting on a response to >>728721853
>>728722001Sorry anon, they're "scattered across the Wasteland" now. If you're a good boy you'll get more than two scenes with them this season.
Now I want to replay New Vegas goddamn
>>728718949Novac had a brahmin ranch in it. I guess even in adaptations people can own nothing and eat ze bug.
>>728723850Stupid. I bet they’ll say shady sands was like half the size of diamond city next
>>728720187
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5xh2KeP38g
>>728717472There was nothing left to kill after 4, let alone 76.
>>728723850>nCR is now out mjnutemen light I’m going to throw up
>>728718948You forgot to include Fallout 76 sales.
Emil is a shit writer
>>728724146I want to smooch Maelle
I know it sucks to accept it but canon is whatever the IP owner decides it is. If Todd today decides that aliens mindcontrolled Vault Tec into starting WW3 to reshape humanity, then that is the new canon. We know that it was China who launched the nukes because the US wouldn't stop developing their FEV to which the US retaliated, but if Todd doesn't like that then it's his right to change that. Even the father of the IP said as much. [YouTube] Let's Talk About Canon (embed)But what Fallout right now is, more than it ever was, is a Bethesda game.>character creator>first and third person>be in base>sort out gear and grab what you need>open map and pick location or quest>head out>2 minutes later something to fight>2 minutes later something to explore>2 minutes later something to interact with>2 hours later>completed 2 quests>explored 1 dungeon>looted 2 new pieces of gear>encountered a new companion>now you are at your target location to do what you actually wanted to do>do the thing>you've played the game for 4 hours and return to your base>do some maintenance, eat, sleep, head out againWhy do you think Bethesda refuses to rebuild civilization in any way at all? Am i really supposed to believe that people are hauling around hundreds of bottle caps so they can buy basic goods? In an in-game vacuum none of this makes sense. But as soon as you factor in outside elements everything makes perfect sense.Proper cities would mean more characters, more systems and mechanics and we know the engine is already coming apart. Long distance travel and communication would cut back on the Bethesda loop of "something to explore/loot/kill every 20 seconds" which is what people are playing these games for. Don't need to walk there because i can just call the NPC - less emergent gameplay. A functioning society would destroy the wild wasteland aspect.copy/paste threadcopy/paste reply
>>728722884The whack-a-commie thing that Cooper's daughter is playing has the Chinese flag on it
>>728717472By the time fallout 5 comes out, you'll have forgotten about this show
>>728723048No, you lying nigger. We didn't even use to have a /pol/. /pol/ is a fucking containment board after they ruined /new/ almost two decades ago and now you underage election zoomers are stinking up every board.Every single board.Inside telemetry shows /pol/ is the most popular board on the site. It did not use to be like this. 4chan did not have 220,000+ active daily users.People on this site were not overwhelmingly natsoc retards, we called you people "stormfags" and we were way better off without you secondaries calling everyone and their mom a newfag to constantly reinforce your self esteem and projection./v/ is by far worse than it has ever been because of (You)(You) are the reason we have to have all these fucking altchans, the reason we couldn't have the original /new/, fucking "racism outside of /b/" rules that aren't even actually enforced anymore, we can't even talk about videogames on /v/ because of your sheer fucking volume of idiocy.You may turn this place into your 'sekrit club' because of the nature of truly free and anonymous communities, but know that nobody will ever actually want you here. Thus ever to stormfags.
God I wish this shitheap would take place on the East coast.
>>728717472can't wait to play FO5 in 2035
>>728717472Dead franchise lol
>>728717984How can the show appear in 76? Doesn't it take place before any other Fallout story?
>>728724545Meme man had a cameo quest giver role in the new dlc or whatever
>>728724545The Ghoul has been alive since before the Great War
>>728724545Fallout 76 takes place in 2105, 191 years before the show, and at that time Cooper "The Ghoul" Howard was aura farming Ohio rizzIn Ohio, naturally, the only place where you can do that
>>728724545Ghoul was alive when the bombs fell. Also 76 actually takes place around 30 years after the bombs, which is later than 4 which has its prologue set in 2077.
>>728724302Todd will have retired before Fallout 5.
>>728717472i like the showseethe
The show is good so this is a good thing.
Reminds that the only people that defend this show are shills. In the past few months no one defended this show and even brought it up and it was basically just a dead topic. Now all of a sudden retards are crawling from the woodworks to suck it off and defend it and showing they never played any of the fucking games.>inb4 REEEE SCHIZO NO SHILLS ON 4CHAN!!!!This has been happening for years will all kinds of different shit.
>>728724860the show is kino tho you nigger jew
>>728724394No, you're wrong. You can watch a video essay or read a KYM article if you want to know the history instead of made up bullshit, newfag
>>728718032>F4 somehow having a worse story than 3>F76 and its staunch jewry>New Delhi space adventure>Bricking F4 for no reasonYou should know all of these impurities are going to be even stronger when Todd smells more money. Im amazed you held out hope for this long.
>>728724503“Dead franchise” just means “incredibly popular and can’t be discussed on /v/ or RPG Codex” and “will probably now outlive its own haters”>See: The LOTR trilogy being a bastardizing of actual LOTR that /pol/ has since retconned into being ‘based’ >McDonald’s hate campaign two decades ago from a documentary that turned out to be fake, a popular franchise that has outlasted everything so long that haters don’t even care anymore>nobody even bothers to try and hate on World of Warcraft on /v/ anymore and classic wow threads are always popular and the /vg/ community is constantly active>Halo, “baby’s first FPS” was hated for what it did to shooters and now beloved by the same haters decades later who have forgottenAll it takes is for Fallout to be popular now long enough the current wave of zoomers and Gen Alpha YouTube essay kids outlast their interest in hating it, and then we’ll have “man 76 was actually fun” threads 20-30 years from now. People will eventually come back around to Disney Star Wars too.Gatekeeping has never, ever worked in the long run. Time always wins. Todd always wins.
>>728724780Haven't watched S2, but S1 was good enough as long as you skip the Maximus parts. Probably the best vidya TV adaption I'd say.
>House is now some overtly evil mind control-obsessed lunatic with a missile array in VegasWhat the fuck is this writing?
>>728724982I was here you fucking retard. But keep coping, I can sense you quaking in your jammies after being called out for being a projecting tourist.
>>728725040>>McDonald’s hate campaign two decades ago from a documentary that turned out to be fake, a popular franchise that has outlasted everything so long that haters don’t even care anymoreThis one was doubling funny since /vpol/ bashed McDonalds for years as goyslop, but now that Trump is shilling it, it's suddenly based and for whites.
>>728724938Here we have a dravidian shit monkey who has been hired to pretend to like it and do damage control. In the next few months he will be gone as will others like him and the show will not receive any of the fake praise it is getting. Bethesda has a history of hiring bottom of the barrel jeets to shill their trash on here.
>>728725091Probably written by Todd and Emil.
>>728725091>nowHe always was, get some media literacy
>>728724780You don’t, you’re literally just being paid to make it seem like you do. Nothing about the show is good or would appeal to anyone that cares about Fallout. It’s the most bottom of the barrel slop made for the kind of people who unironically own funko pops and soipog as every reference and memberberry they see.
>>728725294>He always wasProve it.>media literacyAlways typed by the illiterate.
>>728725091House was too level headed for a Bethesda entry so they completely rewrote him to be wAcKy and CUHraZy.
>>728725091>House is now some overtly evil mind control-obsessed lunaticHe is a control freak who brainwashed tribals into 1950s Rat Pack mobs. >with a missile array in VegasHe had secret laser defense arrays on top of the Lucky 38 and an entire secret army of robots underground. It’s not a reach to use that as precedent he has more shit stashed somewhere.
>>728725117Why are you so mad? You should be thankful I allow you on this website.
>>728725349>le oligarchs are le good actually
>>728725173oh shit its the schizo from last night who went hundreds of posts lashing out at anons, claiming everyone was the same personare we seeing the very begininngs of a new lolcow?
>>728725423What bad things did he do in the games?Begone, Redditnigger.
>>728720308I bought Fallout 4 and I hated it so much I never bought a Besthesda product since. LMFAO
>>728725091The missile system is what he uses to shoot down the nukes to save Vegas makes more sense than using lasers..Aren't you guys obsessed with New Vegas? How can you not know this?
>>728725469And yet you sit in these threads every month seething OMEGALUL
>>728725469so you didn't buy uhhhwell uhhhstarfield?
>>728725173The fuck are you going on about?
>>728717472I just want Ella Purnell's character to be happy with her black boyfriend, can't wait for more of the charismatic duo.
>>728725531First Fallout thread I've clicked on since September. You're very bad at tracking anons and you should give up your schizo badge.>>728725536No
>>728725460FNV writers have said they literally regret writing House as a messiah after seeing what real tech oligarchs do.
>>728725439Holy shit you’re in yet another thread shilling and seething. Are you sure you want to reference the thread where you outed yourself as a retarded samefag and spent the next five hours crying and talking to yourself? What did your handlers tell you to scream lolcow to make it seem like you fit in?
>>728725572Playing dumb shit nigger? What I said isn’t hard to understand.
>>728725671>FNV writers have said they literally regret writing House as a messiah after seeing what real tech oligarchs do.Where?
>>728725668>First Fallout thread I've clicked on since SeptemberShould’ve stayed gone if it’s a dead franchise to you. Stop molesting the dead. Let us necrophiliacs do our thing till we redefine it as ‘alive’ again after you’re finally gone for good. Then we can have comfy Fallout 5 threads.
So, Colonel Moore was right all along. The Brotherhood should have been destroyed then and there.
can't wait for the followers of the apocalypse to be a prominent faction now that does everything right that topples mean ol mr house.
>>728718948Sales figures are reddit metrics. Kill yourself already
>>728725823>Should’ve stayed gone if it’s a dead franchise to youIt's not dead to me. I can still boot up Fallout 1, 2 and Vegas heavily modded if I feel like playing Fallout. They're still installed on my pc. I'm just not gonna pretend like anything new fallout put out is good. The only that that's dead is the soul of these new products. Enjoy Fallout 5.
>>728725668>First Fallout thread I've clicked on since September.And yet you decide to click on one talking about the show LMAO
>>728725681KEK it is you!
>carla in a fallout game >would have multiple shops in every township >her gimmick would be each franchisee being named “Carla” but clearly a distinct and different npc>she’d be the vendor for basic supplies/crafting etc >there might be a quest that allows you to become and affiliate and earn passive income as you travel Bethesda’s fallout >trashcancarla is covered in piss and shit >has one malnourished Brahmin to her name >no supply line of any kind >sells you 200 year old cans of soup It’s amazing how little they understand the string
>>728725751Translate for the rest of us, I don't speak schizo. What in the world are you going on about?
>>728719014you can build entire towns by yourself in f4, quit coping,m, retard
>>728725117https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygr5AHufBN4There, now nrustle your jimmies and don't bother engaging with these troglodytes any longer.
>>728725768>Litchfield recently had the opportunity to speak to the lead writer of Fallout: New Vegas, John Gonzalez.>Gonzalez was in a reflective mood on how some aspects of the 2010 game come across in 2025. This includes one of New Vegas' most memorable characters, Mr. House, a tech tycoon kept alive by a supercomputer who runs the post-nuke Vegas, and who'll have a major role in season 2 of the show."My own sense of Mr. House has changed as we've seen the rise of Silicon Valley would-be messiahs," says Gonzalez. "One of the things that now seems prescient is the fixation, the fascination they have with technological immortality.>"But Mr. House is unique in that he was able to calculate when the Great War was going to occur within a window of a few days—he was just a couple of days short of getting the platinum chip. I don't think we're seeing that Elon Musk is able to calculate things to that degree of precision."
>>728726051Actually this thread is about what's gonna be canon in the Fallout games. Learn to read.
>>728717923>kek Fallout has never been more alive in its entire historyOkay let's see, a game from 2015 was the last entry, it has almost zero identity now, and uh, there's a 1 season TV show that got solid 7&8/10sYeah it's not looking so hot
>>728726102>>728726196Here he is again samefagging. I would ask him to post a screencap but he did that last night and when he was called out for using 4chanX he just went apeshit. It’s all herehttps://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/728663805/#728684074
>>728725439He's been in more than just that thread. That's just the one where he got baited into raging for hours for pointing out his English errors.
>>728726261>I hate Fallout 4 so much and Todd makes me shit in rage so I will never touch Bethesda Fallout again>*Willingly enters a Fallout TV show "fallout is dead" thread just to seethe*Todd lives in your head rent free. He won.
>>728717472I'm not watching this shit. Only Fallout 1 and 2 are canon, the rest are fanfiction or a homage (NV).They can do whatever they want with the IP they took from Interplay, I'm not playing it until its well discounted, if at all, and given how Fallout 76 turned out, its leaning more towards the latter.
>>728726353>Translate for us>Random threadum...
>>728726480Good, we don’t need you. Todd won, you lost. Quit vidya and Go to school and start a family or something
>>728726381>has to talk to himself to cope with getting btfo after over 12 hours.This is what outs you as being some neurotic pajeet. You did this exact same shit in the other thread and now you’re just carrying on and shilling yet again. All because you lost and argument on 4chan.
So what happened to the courier in the TV show? My guess was that they either turned into a sassy independent black woman or that they died an embarrassing death for comedic relief.
>>728726229Death of the Author and all that.
>noooo muh heckin fallout lore!!!
>>728726229>Musk has another acid induced brain fart and supports Democrats again>Axxxually it was really about Howard Hughes folkx"
>>728725091he wrote his own obituary in New Vegas that gets released if you kill him where he insufferably sucks himself offhttps://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/A_tragedy_has_befallen_all_mankind
>>728717472Fallout died a long time ago.Some time around the transition to 3D.That's when all this shit started looking r-ddit.
>>728726618They didn't even allude to the Vault Dweller or the Chosen One in the first season, so he probably just doesn't exist.
>>728726353>retard spends hours talking to himself only to out he is a samefag>continues to do it and cry schizo for the next few hoursYeah that tracks.
>>728726580You're legitimately mentally ill my friend.
>>728726782>samefagging this post again Everyone already told you that’s it’s inarguably a bad thing when a Better person dies compared to lesser schlubs
>>728726438Again learn to read. This is a Fallout 5 thread. Anyone with a braincell can put together that if Fallout 4 was mid then Fallout 5 will be mid or worse. Enjoy your comfy Fallout 5 thread.
>>728721309she single-handedly saved Fallout, IMO.People don't realize how much damage fallout 76 did.
>>728726848Says the faggot that has to talk to himself just to have a chance of arguing online.
>>728726624Unless it’s Chris Avellone saying he didn’t like the show’s lore, then suddenly authorial intent is all that matters to you, you disingenuous nignog. Just like how fallout 1’s lead programmer Tim Cain liked the show now he’s suddenly “irrelevant homosexual, remember death of the author” but only when it suits you
>>728726618We're only one episode in so who knows. But most likely he won't be mentioned as anything more than a footnote.
>>728726842why are you responding to yourself?
>>728726943>Unless it’s Chris Avellone saying he didn’t like the show’s loreHe called it out for season one.
>>728726229There is literally nothing about 'regretting' anything in that text you fucking retard.
>>728726868>I don't care about Bethesda Fallout it is dead to me>Keeps entering Bethesda Fallout threads to seetheNot beating the allegations.
>>728724394>t. seething for 13years straight
>>728726936I don't even know what your argument was about.
chudsisters,we may need to start kneeling...
>>728717472>>728717648>>728717972I liked the show, look forward to more. Pull out your best “pig eating slop” cope now.
It's ovER for the future of Fallout.
>>728726943No one said that though, bootlicker
>>728727036Average /v/ user who can’t read subtext. He is implying he would have probably written House differently now.
Bethesda was a mistake.
>>728724394>try to exile opinions you don't like to a single board>seethe when said board becomes the most influent on the siteLmao what did you expect would happen?
>>728726983>why are you responding to yourself?The irony, get fucked retard.
>>728727016He said the TV lore was a mess, but he liked what Bethesda is doing with the 'verse overall more.Also if you read the full review he bashes FO2 and New Vegas almost non-stop while putting FO1 on a pedestal.
Need a vault dweller tradwife so bad.
>>728727037Ok Todd, enjoy your massively successful Fallout 5. Can't wait to click on another Fallout thread and see your post games sales while the actual company revenue metrics start to fall.
>>728727206seriously, why are you responding to yourself?
>>728727103It’s so over for Fallout that we are gonna have nonstop threads about it and Falloyt 3 remake, FNV remake, Fallout 5 and 76 for the next decade and they’ll all pull record sales numbers
are there any tiddies in season 2?
>>728726860>inarguably a bad thing when a Better person dies compared to lesser schlubsGood thing the Courier is a better person and lives to expose House for his megalomania
>>728724394Unbelievably based post. I remember the death of /news/ and couldn't believe they brought in /pol/ despite axing it because they didn't want those kinds of people flooding the site. 4chan has been on the downturn for a long time now, but overwhelmingly it's culture war retards that are the reason it's as bad as it is.
>>728719803Nigga what
sugarbombs lips are so kissable it drives me crazy
>>728727250I'm not him you fucking retard. Are you this mindbroken?
>>728727235baste
>>728727094Anyone that watching GoyTV is cattle eating slop. That's why you're called a "consumer" because that's all they ever expect you to do in life for them.
>>728727235Anon's Vault Dweller Tradwife is actually a spy for the Chinese!
>>728727149Like 85% chance you are a /pol/fag so you are literally someone who would lick the boot more, lmao.
>>728727348so you're just not going to answer?
>>728727235>>728727349This except Enclave tradwife.
>>728727421I did answer you schizo, I am not the guy you are crying over, did you not see the screencap?
>>728719803They hated him because he told the truth
>>728726842Least obvious samefag
>>728717472>He didn't already bury bethesda
>>728727242>Not even hiding the fact that Bethesda FO lives rent free in his head and he seethes over it constantly despite "never buying a Bethesda FO again"At least you admit it now.
>>728727359That’s not what I am but go on, pretty standard cope you posted. I Expected better. I’m personally hoping I can hook up with a hot vault girl cosplayer at the next fallout fest who probably liked the show
>>728717472It's dead since 3. 3/NV/4 should've been isometric RPGs, not Bethesda shooter trash.
>>728727534why are you responding to yourself? and why are you refusing to answer?
>>728724394Based Oldfag. Election Tourists ruined 4chan.
>>728727552>>728727634Take your meds, faggot.
>>728726912Is that thing /v/tards saves vidya in strange ways, from lol jinx shitposter to the woman who saved 2 franchises from ostracism and colored death.
>>728719014I can build better homes than the burnt out shells they use in like 2 weeks.
>>728727695i'll take that answer as you're embarassed
>>728717472NCR nuke is canon lmao
>>728727587I just don't buy bethesda games. They haven't made anything interesting lately so why bother. Why do you care how spend my money or what I decide to say? Should I be seething? I'm more disappointed in a waste of potential just like how your parents have been with you.
>>728724394I'm watching this guy reply to himself with an ancient shitpost image where he changed the box from /b/ to /pol/. It's quite fascinating to see this twerp (who lives exclusively in Fallout threads) do it so blatantly. It's like watching a retard try to lie.
>>728726353The best way to convince anons that you're not a schizo is DEFINITELY by linking an old thread where you had an argument with some random guy or guys
>>728727592Anyone watching TV shows at all is cattle. It's been that way since your great grandparents. Sorry to inform you.
>>728721850YEAH TEAR EM APART
>>728727738You got your answer and are just sperging out because you don't like it.
>>728727920so why did you respond to yourself?
>>728727075If you don’t know then why are you engaging? Why would you cry schizo if you’re unaware of what’s going on? Seriously how fucking stupid are you? >>728727865You mean the thread that you brought up and are still crying about?
this thread is grim.
>>728721850>>728727902SOMEONE CALL THE DOCTA WE GOT A BLEEDAAHHHH
>>728727752How could they do this to muh Tandi's home
>>728721850NEVER SHOULD OF COME HERE
>>728717923This. Trannies need to leave.
>>728728031>the thread that you brought up...You linked the thread you mentally well adjusted individual.
>>728728014When did I do that? Show the post where you think that happened? Because so far you're just making shit up.
>>728725840It turns out a broken Clock can be right once in a dayIn this case Sending assassins to murder the East Coast BoS leaders and the daughter of the elder who taught arthur about leadership and the wife of the guy who became the first outlander sentinel
>>728717472I like the show. Not watching Season 2 until all the EPs are out tho.
So what id the show and by extention bethesda's obsession with the pre-war era? The originals care about it so little they outright say it's pointless and trivial to worry about it.
>>728728031I didn't cry schizo. I said "You're legitimately mentally ill my friend."
>>728727094>call me what I am I d-don't care
>>728728163>You linked the threadAfter you brought it up here while talking to yourself >>728726381
>>728725473Are you retarded? I don't give a shit what makes more sense in your low IQ brain, he states in game he uses a combination of his laser defense system and his wireless data network to force disarm the incoming nukes. If he had a fucking missile system across the Vegas area I feel like he would have mentioned it at some point. So what the fuck do you mean I should "know" about some random bullshit that is only introduced in this dogshit show and hasn't been mentioned to do what you're headcanon retconning. Faggot.
>>728728227>the guy who became the first outlander sentinelWhat became of that guy anyway?
>>728728175the first instance you were asked why you were responding to yourself
>>728727197You are literally advocating for new big newcomers disenfranchising the original community, in a thread of people seething for a franchise overtaken by newcomers disenfranchising the original fan community.This is how we know you don’t actually take any of this seriously or have real stakes in this franchise or this website. You are. A. Tourist.
>>728728234because they can link it to current year politics
>>728728287That wasn't me you moron.This is also DEFINITELY how you convince people you're not a schizo.
>>728728341Where? Show the post?
>>728719014>everyone lives in sheet metal sheds and sleeps in filthy 200 year old mattresses surrounded by skeletons because rebuilding is really hard :(>also there's power armor, airships, giant robots, synthetic humans, teleportation, space ships, etcbravo rodd
>>728717472Thankfully, Fallout 5 will never come out since if it takes already so much to make Elder Scrolls VI, there's no chance in hell we'll see the next mainline title before the end of the decade.
>>728728254You did in the other thread and here given you’re samefagging just like you were there. >>728728431>That wasn't me you moronYou did this shit in the thread I linked and are once again going apeshit. Only now you’re crying and accusing someone else of being me.
>>728725406>He is a control freak who brainwashed tribals into 1950s Rat Pack mobs.there was no brainwashing
>>728728175>It's the samefag-schizo here yet again to shit up fallout threads by accusing random posts, most likely his own, of being samefagsWhat is his endgame?
>>728728234Marketable wacky 50s shit.>Andy Griffith...but with le robots???
>>728718360>what is so hard about that?I regularly ask myself the same thing? Why do they do what they do?
>>728728450>metal shacks? CRINGE!>people surrounded by tech reverting to Stone Age? HOLY KINO THIS MAKES SENSE
>>728728571So far the only schizo here is (You).
>>728728543>other threadnigger, nobody went to look at some old thread you linked just because you had some argument. it's literally how you outed yourself as samefagging by pretending to be someone who did so in a matter of minutes
>>728728543No
>>728719014>It's a reset back to the stone ageRetard. Moron. Imbecile. Fucking think for once.
>>728727897>anyone who likes any sort of mainstream entertainment is cattleNow this is some fine cope. Aged cope, very nice.
>>728725294You're a faggot who can't understand character nuance. He didn't need to have a fucking mind-control device for anyone with half a brain to see he is not the savior of the wasteland since he is merely advancing society technologically while failing to address the societal issues at the core of what caused the war the first time, thus dooming humanity to another fall which will be much grander in scale. But of course retards like you need it spoonfed to you that he is le bad, rather than using your fucking brain to make this deduction through an understanding of the setting, character and context. Faggot.>>728725406He didn't brainwash anyone, he gave them specific styles based on what he perceives to be attractive qualities to those he wants to bring to the strip, which the tribes commit to because it makes them tons of fucking money.
>>728721850>who hires them? who knows! theyre uhhhh evil! they stop do gooders!!! because reasons!!!
>>728728604There is actually so little civilization out west it does make more sense to revert to hunter gatherers. Plus Avellone's tribal obsession is a simple theme for how rebuilding should be done, as in should one rely on old world tech they can't reproduce or not.
>>728728604>fringe outliers that are mocked and shunned by the majority of "typical" human settlements >a tribal goes on to found the most advancement 2077 tier city the wasteland has ever seenThere's no argument for todd's fanfiction shanty town nonsense
>>728728732He’s right, you just ride a bandwagon. Seeing a different opinion triggers you
>>728728604>people who integrated with existing native American tribes or are comprised of the ancestors of orphaned children taught how to survive by some guy who lived in a cave secretly No excuse for Fallout 2's tribals but the NV ones make entire sense.
>>728728649>>728728723>retard spends thread talking to himself and crying schizo>gets called out in other thread >starts crying again>other people call him out after previous thread is linked>NOOO YOURE SAMEAFAGGINGSo you were the schizo all along.
>>728728604There is a key difference in trying to rebuild civilization but just not doing that, and collectively making a choice to live pre-agricultural lifestyles due to conditions faced.
>>728728604You just got BTFO posting this shit in another thread, shut the fuck up.
>>728728604>We wear more clothing than them and understand more about technology, but we're still a tribe, a linked family of families. >The Boneyard, Phoenix, New Vegas, they're just places, metal and stone. New Canaan dies, but the tribe lives on. >When the walls come tumbling down, when you lose everything you have, you always have family. And your family always has tribe.
>>728728604>people surrounded by tech reverting to Stone AgeYeah man the National Parks are really technological powerhouses
>>728728823He isn't right. As has been pointed out by multiple anons with knowledge of the series. The west coast settlements had begun to rebuild and elevate themselves within a scant few decades after the bombs fell. Many years before the the vault dweller leaves to find a water chip. It only accelerates several times over withing the following decades, nevermind almost 2 centuries later.
>>728722593I tried but I crossed the threshold between - shit get some cover to unkillable god and it happened the moment I finally put down the pipe rifle as my general purpose weapon and picked up a combat rifle and neither side of the balance felt great.I suppose there are some rebalancing mods but wouldn't you know it I bought F4 2 weeks before Todd decided to drop the second nuke on Modoshima and I haven't even bothered to og back to see if it's fixed or if I have to calibrate the 120 strong modlist I'm using, the majority of which were recommended simply to get the base game in a playable state.
>>728728082Tandi herself didnt predict that hers and Aradesh's dream would be tainted by pre-war mongoloidism of the left and lolberalism>>728728331Seeing that the Prima guide isn't canon, He Probably Died alongside Sarah, thus also leading to Three Dog also leaving DC thus no GNR and leading to the events of CW Mercenaries, without the wanderer patroling the wastes, with the BoS in Disarray because their leaders, probably even the outcasts murdered, and the Problem that was V87 til Arthur took over became rampant, The Capital Wasteland became a hostile place to live until Arthur pacified everything.>>728728776From what i remember reading once, Eden was the one hiring the Talon company to make sure the enclave wouldn't face "resistance", hence the campaign of terror so the enclave would arrive as "heroes" of the Capital Wasteland
>>728728945>no uit's be hilarious if it wasn't so weird and annoying
>>728728823He's demonstrably, probably wrong. Even Bethesda's own entries don't follow his dumbass line of logic.
>>728728789>>728728779>>728718949“SHANTY TOWNS MAKE NO SENSE WHY CANT PEOPLE JUST BUILD HOUSES AFTER THE APOCALYPSE?!”>Meanwhile, in modern day, high tech, rich France…
>>728728604true sister, they should have regressed by becoming a retarded superhero instead :)
>>728728604>sets up a bunch of fucking booby traps all over zion that makes the sorrows and dead horses afraid of buildingsLOL
Fallout 3 is better than New Vegas.I said it.
>>728719014You are right and you triggered the reactionary horde with this.
>>728729029Considering you actually are schizophrenic after crying for hours and then screaming samefag when you were shown to be wrong. Yeah it’s apt here. I guess you were just projecting in the others thread.
>>728719014You're le totally right me. I mean anon.
>>728729110thumbnail looks like a delicious burger
Todd most definitely shoves a vault boy figurine up his asshole in impotent rage everytime someone even lets slip "arroyo" in his offices.
>>728722163>arcade's wet dream response
>>728729154It's demonstrably false and you have no idea what the word "reactionary" means.
>>728717923Holy TRVKE
>>728729082I mean a key pony of that is those conditions are not sustainable, they're in a desert with uninvolved shacks. That's zero long term planning or use of existing resources(see for example shady sands using adobe). Temporary set ups or the poor is one thing but it's not sustainable.
>>728729110Disregarding its a deus machina reach, what about the tribals EVERYWHERE OUTSIDE ZION IN FALLOUT 2, YOU TOURIST?
>>728729268Son of Dob...
>>728729189i have no clue what you're talking about that happened in "others thread" totally English speaking anon
>>728729339>anon makes joke>you seethe
>member Novac even though it's ruins and the dinosaur is facing the wrong way>member Mr House>member Big Iron
>>728717923TRUTH NUKED and HOPEPILLED
>>728726353>its realholy shit, what the fuck is wrong with shills?
The only way the "creative" team could salvage their bad, bottom of the barrel misinterpretation is having a LOST tier reveal where they reach another NCR city and see people watching a movie at the drive in with their protection of a cyber sci fi holographic laser fence and vertibirds circling the sky and everyone looking clean and fresh
>>728717472>BREAKING NEWS!!>Bethesda will make another dogshit game in 10 yearsyeah no shit
>>728729339The American West is mostly depopulated and not sustainable to live in without modern infrastructure. Becoming hunter gatherers like the natives of the region is basically your only option.
>>728729441Okay but wasteland is objectively cooler and I like the post apocalyptic sci fi fantasy more. And I am willing to spend more money than you on Fallout.
>he responded to himself again
>>728729423Oh look you have to play dumb. Which is doubly retarded since you’re bringing up shit from the other thread.
>>728729337>key ponyUh oh bros bringing up ponies on /v/
>>728729268>>728729347Imagine being at zionso fat you look and see food
>>728729537brought what up from "others thread"?
>>728717472Fallout 5, that is released in 2045?
>>728729610*other thread
>>728729339>Deus ex machina>Clearly set up with long lasting, internally consistent effectsYou don't know what deus ex machina is.
He could have prevented all of this.
all these shills will be in a nursing home before fallout 6
>>728729787God, please don't let them through in some dumb Marcus cameo.
>>728729787Yeah it's too bad he jobbed to a fucking TRIBAL somehow.One with like mere months of experience at that.I hate plot armor bullshit like that. It makes me mad even if I'm the player/guy winning.
>>728729610no answer. guess he ran away
>>728729921Not plot armor if I'm strength 10 faggot.
>>728729921>Yeah it's too bad he jobbed to a fucking TRIBAL somehow.He needed to read more theory.
>villain makes a grand return
>>728729961Nah its absolutely plot armor. Frank had 10 in all SPECIAL so.
Whatever you need to tell yourself to cope, schizo.
>>728730056He's a big guy.
>>728729289Keq
>>728730056i like how the legion armor clearly has power armor pauldron based on the originals and not the nu-fallout tank power armor and this will never be explained
>>728730056>Lanius somehow survivedNanithefuck
>>728718360Mad Max and its consequence have been a disaster for post-apocalyptic aesthetics.
>>728730056Aren't you a little short for a tribal warlord?
>>728729503>I like the post apocalyptic sci fi fantasy moreSo do I. Really weird solution there. Rather than raping the setting they could just... set it in a different place in a less developed time. Big thinking, I know.
>>728730180Plot twist, it's the courier.
>>728729947Better for everyone honestly.
>>728730056THEY MADE HIM A FUCKING MANLET AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>Who won the Battle of Hoover Dam? Oops doesn't matter, the Mojave is a lawless shithole no matter what.>Did you destroy the Great Khans? Convince them to leave the Mojave? Oops doesn't matter, they're still in the Mojave 15 years later.>Did you help the people of Novac? Oops doesn't matter, it's a Great Khans camp now.>Did you side with House? Oops forgot to mention he was helping Vault-Tec develop mind control chips.The erasure of New Vegas has begun.
>>728730180I'm beginning to think Todd and Emil just de-canonized every west coast player character.
>>7287301074u
>>728730292I believe. Only Courier could get away with this kind of shit
>>728730153>clearly has power armor pauldron based on the originalsYou mean the T-45 pauldron? The same T-45 power armor from Bethesda Fallout that wasn't at all from the originals? The T-45 power armor pauldron that was already present on the centurion armor in New Vegas?I know dogpiling on the show is fun but if you don't know anything about the series then you don't need to.
>>728730358>vault dwellers legacy fully forgotten >chosen one more so, may as well have done nothing since the enclave is still at large>same for the lone wonderor oddly enough>courier at this point just actually died in goodsprings>fallout 5 will say the commonwealth was nuked by the sneedclave nothing matters As it goes.
>>728730527>based on the originals and not the nu-fallout tank power armor
>>728717472After Fallout 4, I don't believe Bethesda is capable of making a good Fallout game anymore. And the lukewarm reception from StartField tells me they're not learning from their criticisms. The best thing to come from Bethesda buying the Fallout IP was New Vegas. The franchise has slopified.
when are the aliens coming fallout is so wacky after all?
>>728730056>Mom said it's my turn to be Legate
I feel like im living in some astroturfed bizarro world, how is such a shit tier retarded show so beloved by normgroid? Just turn your brain off lol? How can anyone who's even play 4 or 3 AND liked them and their "lore" like the shows? Let alone say that they're "faithful"? They're absolutely not, they decanonized the first 2 games in series and disgising themselves in the skins of the source material. They're narratively retarded and the action is retarded. Everything about it screams water on the brain. I do not get it. Is it literally "i see pipboy i dopamine spike"? Really?
>>728729289"Dream", indeed. Best he can actually manage is ACKing himself.
>>728730601Oh you meant the size.
>>728730664I see what they were attempting to do with Starfield, even though it failed spectacularly. They never wanted to be a big story company, they wanted to be a big "open sandbox game" company. If they can get closer to Daggerfall in a modern way, the happier they would be.
>>728730759Genuinely, how the FUCK did this show get nominated for so many awards and even WIN some of them?
>>728730759>Is it literally "i see pipboy i dopamine spike"? Really?
>>728730759I've played 3, NV, and 4. I like the show.I unfortunately didn't play 1 and 2 as a kid because I couldn't have games on the family computer at the time. It seems kind of daunting to go back to it now as its so old now.But I'm enjoying the show.
>>728717472hmm I wonder if fallout will be like that indiana jones game they made.
>>728730759The normies have never played fallout. It's just quirky chungus for them.
Does anyone have the old post saved of an anon comparing Ulysses' quote about the twisted hairs braids being stripped of their original meaning to the fallout show
>>728730937>Take Gifted>Raise Perception to 8>Raise Agility to 9-10>Speech isn't nearly as important as in the 3D games>The 5.56 Pistol can carry you through Fallout 1 and the Bozar through 2There you go, now it's daunt-less.Now play the originals.
>>728730972There's a webm up there somewhere.
>>728727852Kill yourself stormfag
>>728730937How? What the fuck is even good about it? Just turn your brain off?Play the originals, you're a human being, likely younger, you have mad neuroplasticity, they aren't hard to understand.
>>728730972>>728720187
>>728731116Sounds good, I'll give it a shot.Cheers
>>728717472Nobody cares about the show but braindead cattle, and their kind would never buy/play a Fallout game.Considering the studio is busy with other shit, Fallout 5 will happen after a decade & by that time "diversity" will be back in Hell where it belongs. Gaming will heal, but neither today, nor tomorrow.
>>728730759there are entire generations of people now who have become fans of video game IPs without ever playing them, because of youtubers they know now all the lore, including the bullshit happenstance lore, all the stories, and watch hours of gameplay without themselves ever touching it./v/ used to meme how games would become movies, THIS is what is exactly happening. You listen to music? You watch video games.
>>728717472
How are they going to explain to normies the existence of the Legion
>>728731196nta, but people consume media differently.some people pay more attention to the plot.some more on the character relationships and inter-dialogue.others on the lore and worldbuilding.others on the vibes.Everyone engages with all of those to some degree, but everyone places more importance on some aspects than others. It's why some people will say Mass Effect 2 is the best ME, while others will say it was the worst (before 3 happened) and it did nothing to drive the story forward.
>>728730972>>728724017
>>728717472Does that mean I can murder the->Bethesda "every npc is essential" gameoh
>>728717472Fallout 5 will be some giga cringe "live service arena shooter" or something, franchise is dead, but you'll be able to purchase a Nikki Minaj skin on the Fallout app store (also on mobile)
I didn't read the thread but I didn't know that there was a Fallout TV show. How does that work when the game protagonist is player created?
I couldn't watch past episode 1. Why is this shit so popular?
>>728730759I like the show because I never took Fallout 'lore' that seriously because you were never supposed to. Not even the official design document for Fallout 1 took the "universe" that seriously, it's supposed to be how Fallout makes you 'feel' not whether or not your heckin epic Lore is sanctified, and "postwar nations" have x amount of people in them or controls y territory.>1. Mega levels of violence. (you had better give us that Mature rating right now)You can shoot everything in this game: people, animals, buildings and walls. You can make “called shots” on people, so you can aim for their eyes or their groin.*** This is the wasteland. Life is cheap and violence is all that there is. We are going to grab the player’s guts and remind him of this. ***>2. There is often no right solution. Like it or not, the player will not be able to make everyone live happily ever after.>3. There will always be multiple solutions. No one style of play will be perfect.>4. The players actions affect the world.>5. There is a sense of urgency.>6. It's open ended.>7. The player will have a goal.>8. The player has control of his actions.>9. Simple Interface.>10. Speech will be lip-synched with the animation.>11. A wide variety of weapons and actions.>12. Detailed character creation rules.>13. Just enough GURPS material to make the GURPSers happy. The game comes first.>14. The Team is Motivated The team is motivated (Tim has incriminating documents on all of us) This is extremely important. Team GURPS is excited to be making this game. Everyone on the team is happy with what they are doing. We want to do this. We care about this game and we will make it cool.
>>728717472Damn, all the people that watch the Fallout show (and love it, discuss it regularly, remember everything that happened) and play Fallout video games are going to love this.
>>728730759The big bang theory effect.
>>728731641So nobody?
>>728718620I appreciate the reference.
>>728731598>the people who like it will one day be killed, I have faith.They said the same thing about Walmart and McDonald's, and Star Wars, and Call of Duty, and Fortnite, and SWTOR, and Asscreed, and ASSFAGGOTS, and World of Warcraft addicts, and everything mainstream that never happened to.
>>728717472Dsp said he loved episode 1 of the new season, so I guess you're wrong?
>>728717472Bethesda is dead, Bury it.
>>728717472Todd just pissing on a corpse at this point
>>728729542Nah horsefuckers actually like new vegas.
>>728717472This shouldn't even be a talking point for like 3-4 more years. They should be putting every single resource and iota of effort into making sure TES VI isn't a fucking dumpster fire. And if they aren't, they're retarded and have learned precisely nothing from the past decade of mediocre or outright bad games they've put out.
>>728731540It’s amazing that shills are so desperate to legitimize and justify the garbage that is this show that they have to dredge up design docs and take them out of context like this. The games have always taken the lore seriously since it’s the foundation of the fucking world itself. Pretending that that isn’t the case just shows you never actually played any of the games.
>>728717472Tobb Howarb already said that the Fallout show was, for all intents and purposes, canonically, Fallout 5.Like, obviously you can't put that on a PS2 box, but he fucking said it. But this was like two years ago.
>>728723537eh, there are more nonsensical or miserable jobs. Unless they were forced into it, most researchers are in it for the passion they have for their discipline, the pay in most fields is shit so there is no other reason to go through the grueling doctorate process and then submitting your life to the publication treadmill.
>>728731909*Fallout 3
>>728731813>Star WarsDead>Call of DutyDead >AsscreedDead
>>728726229>>728727169So basically the lead author has TDS and openly admitted he would've made House into Elon Musk instead of following the 50's theme of Fallout?
a lot of this thread is just the stop having fun meme
>1. Has been on steady decline since 3. 4 barely has any gore in it and limbs and heads barely explode. The show is mostly misery porn, not hyper violence, and certainly is never "cool">2. In bethesda and the show there are zero meaningful choices, 4 barely even pretends that the player has any agency.>3.Lol, see 2>4.Big lol see 2, player has zero agency in bethesda fallout>5.Zero urgency in the show or bethesda fallout>6.I guess? Nothing happens or matters in 3, 4 or the show, and in the shows case theyd rather destroy any choice or events that happened in the past>7.The fuck is goal in the show? To find the vault girls dad? Who the fuck cares?>8.Zero agency in beth games>9.Lol you put on a suit of power armor in 4 and your screen fills up with crap>10Lol bethesda lip sync>11LOL 4 has like 3 guns with swappable lego pieces>12Outright thrown in the dumpster>13Lol, bet todd doesnt even know what a GURPS is >14.Who?Yeah, bethesda and the show cant even live up the mission statement for the entire franchise
>>728732236>>728731540Oopsie poo
>>728717472>>728717831>>728717923FALLOUT 76 CHADS WONVEGASTRANNIES LOST
>>728717472Fallout fucking died with F3 and beyond. You niggas should have been around when those Gen X posters from that website New Mutants Allowed were on a fucking crusade on shitting on Fallout 3 and it's sequels.
>>728732183>TDSGo back to your containment, you didn't play new vegas>>>/pol/
>>728732445Fallout already died with Brotherhood of Steel.
>>728732442Back to /fog/ slop pig
>>728720774different anon but being old doesn't disqualify you from being an idiot
Tfw I'll never get to fuck Ghost's albino pussy.
>>728732445>You niggas should have been around when those Gen X posters from that website New Mutants Allowed were on a fucking crusade on shitting on Fallout 3 and it's sequels.The original admin TorontRayne got exposed as a stormfag neo-nazi and they banned him in shame last year. Another admin trooned out and became a leftist and disavowed the site and said 'actually being mad at Bethesda is retarded after 20 years'One of their alltime regulars, WalpKnut, disavowed the site because they said they just hate things without reasoning anymore and are boring.Brother None got a job in the industry and regrets his NMA days now and thinks they are cringe.NMA lost.
>>728721850I wish I was named comically unsustainable amount of people.
>>728730759Are you new to the 21st century? How can you still be surprised at this show's success when you see its competition? Alien Earth that came out earlier this year has had rave reviews despite having room-temp IQ plot and characters, From is a hit with the mainstream despite nothing happening for entire seasons and the setting being boring as fuck...Fallout wins people over automatically for presenting a familiar world, actors and an easy to follow story with decent production, not to mention the millions spent shilling the show for months before s2 and the lack of another 'big hit' show until Stranger Things ends at the end of the month.
>>728722527The Doom movie is fun at least.
>>728731397None of the MEs were any good honestly, I kept playing for the lore and universe but the gameplay and roleplaying was dogshit, biggest FOMO pressure game I regret putting time into but to be fair it was unavoidable when they were coming out so I felt compelled to try them.
>>728730056100:1 odds they'll try to make him a caricature that is humiliated and easily beaten and lucy will queef in his face and he'll explode
>>728732236Literally everything you said is subjective
>>728732810Jesus fucking christ, is it really THAT BAD? That an unfaithful show written by peoples whose mothers drank while they were pregnant is so lauded?
>>728731509They did it the same way they did Bandersnatch ofc, both are Netflix.
>>728730056>lanius>shortThis is like his son right?
>>728733094Name a meaningful choice in fallout4. One.Name a time where the player character in 4 has an influence on the story beyond choosing which faction walks around doing nothing after the like 4 main story quests are done?The violence? Objectively. OBJECTIVELY. Worse in 4 than in 3 and NV, and those games have worse gore than 1 and 2.
>>728717472>The Witcher and Halo TV shows are clearly just stories written by writers that never had anything to do with the IP at any point in initial development, but then get greenlit on the condition that they shoehorn the IP in for ez brand recognition>They flop>The Fallout TV show is clearly just written by writers that never had anything to do with the IP at any point in initial development, but then get greenlit on the condition that they shoehorn the IP in for ez brand recognition>It's actually pretty goodWhat causes this
>>728733095the hardcore fans that are angry at the betrayal of lore and spirit are inconsequential when you have legions of people who seen a twitch video of Fallout and nothing better to watch. And the critics are either shills or people judging it like a TV show in 2025 with no connection to the original universe.
>>728733281It’s not good, it’s just that all that Bethesdafans are subhumans that will literally eat anything that has to do with one of their IPs. Even fucking Halo fans have more discerning tastes and that shit his the most normalfag console shooter beyond maybe cowadooty.
>>728724394TRVTHNVKE
>>728732531New vegas is /pol/ as fuck, you don't know what you're talking about.>SAARR DO NOT REDEEM NEW VEGAS SARR IT'S FOR TRANNIES SARRR
>>728733386But the show is crass, poorly written, looks visually like total shit, zero consistency with itself and its source material. It is a poor product even if I was retarded.
>>728720340Can mutants even die from old age?
>>728733281cute protag, much easier to understand story with way less characters, tone and story is lighter playing off even gore and misery as a joke, better cast etc etcI'm not a big fan of the show but it had much more going for it from the get-go on top of being general scifi set in the USA rather than obscure fantasy from Eastern EuropeDidn't watch the Halo show or play the games bar some local multi so I can't comment on it
>>728732623doesn't disqualiy the other anon from the same. I was responding to his claim that the reason others had certain views was because they were younger than him.
I haven't seen a single person tell me what about the show is so good, shouldnt it be easy?
>>728733237>Name a meaningful choice in fallout4. One.Far Harbor’s main story decisions. Diamond City Blues>Name a time where the player character in 4 has an influence on the story beyond choosing which faction walks around doing nothing after the like 4 main story quests are done?You literally blow up the institute and can never return in most endings and wcan wipe out everyone but the Minutemen>The violence? Objectively. OBJECTIVELY. Worse in 4 than in 3 and NV, and those games have worse gore than 1 and 2.I agree that it’s worse. They didn’t delete the gore though and you can actually dismember enemies as you fight them, robots as well as creatures
>>728733536What other big show is on that you'd watch instead? I can completely understand the viewership numbers if they are high, I'm more confused by the positive critic score but then again I don't know a critic I trust and am just looking at random stuff on metacritic and rt.
>>728733536this seems like a very young viewpoint, where your views are definitive and none other could possibly be correct.
>>728733237I stopped making choices once I found my explosive rifle, just blasted everything I saw unless I couldn't.
>>728733663>Well shot and directed>Very faithful high quality props and production value>watching it didn’t make me want to kill myself like Rings of Power>at least passable dialogue most of the time>decent pacing and music>sometimes funnyThought the story was cringe and uncentered in the actual fallout universe but that’s it. Also I hate the fallout 4 aesthetic
>>728733663Someone gave their reasons several posts above yours.I think the issue is that you may be automatically counting what people say as "not a real point" simply because you see things differently.I'm not speaking for or against the show here, just in general. It's a problem with any dicussion either on /v/ or /tv/
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>>728733663Because it isn’t. The people praising it now are shills. Barely anyone talked about this shit and when they did it was exclusively to say how ass it is. It’s the usually corporate guerrilla marketing bullshit where waves of retarded thirdies flood forums and social media to give the same generic reactions and hollow praise to try and trigger a herd response.
>>728733973damn even the armor is receding in hairline like the fanbase
>>728722527>name 1 if you can name just one I will kneel and concedeNot that anon, but Halo Legends, The Mario Show, and those Sonic series were honestly kinda funny, and also good, even Sonic Boom (the series, not the garbo games) had it's moments.
>>728734061Just like Emil.
>>728722527Unironically the original mario movie was kino
>>728733973The helmet not being attached to the mask triggered the fuck out of me
