>*kills a guy just for standing in his way*My FUARKING hero
You have autism
>>728737815How tall is this chud? Gives off that 5,9 ick fr.
Cutesythea
>>728737963Yeah.
>>728738302>2.5 years to finally get another unit>it's yet another RearmedThe Heroes team just hates 3H, right?
I eagerly await the day the other ritual posters join berniefag.
>>728740319 One day they'll rise from the shadows, each with their own flavor of schizophrenia and seasonal PNG folder. First comes berniefag, then comes 5AMclaudeposter with his dried tears and diet coke cans, and finally we will witness the return of Lysitheaguy-reborn after 7 years to remind us that turn 1 nukes were, in fact, peak FEH.
>>728740352>Frogsithea with Time's PulseWhat a throwback.That was 6 years ago.
>>728737815>Never bothers with studying>Somehow one of the smartest characters in the entire cast
>>728740352can you keep your feh mental illness to yourself
>>728740941>one of the smartest characters in the entire castAccording to what?
>>728737815john greenhelm was courting death
>>728740941That's pretty realistic actually. Studyfags always jobbed during exams.
Marriage with Marianne!
>>728742074His track record>Picks up on Erik's treachery>Comes up with the better plan to raise money in Badon>Outsmarts Matthew in their support>Purposefully agitates Florina to have her get over her nervousness>Manages to quickly find out that Farina is scamming the tactician>Figures out Serra's backstory from just asking a few questions
>>728740319At least sit down while you wait
Who hasn't fucked Farina?
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2025/12/monolith-soft-releases-interview-celebrating-its-work-on-the-zelda-series>There will be a shitty action rpg Zelda game before a great srpg Zelda.Mega cringe.
We need a grand strategy FE.
FE4 remake will be announced in two more weeks, lads
>>728742730Education is not the same thing as intelligence. None of that is anything you would require going through some school to know to do.
>>728743075Farina only sells her virginity to (You)
instead of using the more interesting conquest map for this location they use the boring birthright map.
So, I decided to try Fire Emblem for real. I'm starting with the first one for GBA on NSO. Will I have a good time?
>>728743842FE7 is really fucking easy on normal mode (which it forces upon you for your first playthrough). One of the reasons I don't like recommending it to new players.
>>728743374GrossBernania will rise again.
>>728743374Or even a something like a Total War Fire Emblem. But I don’t trust CA.
nothing interesting happens in the early chapters.
pointless dragon vein quota for the map reached
>>728744298rev picks up during the snow shoveling
Trans rights!
>>728744584the decision to not give you any units you didn't already have by chapter 2 other than the dancer is strange.
>>728744603Based!
>>728744603Based engageQUEEN.
maybe someone got caught by not checking ranges and seeing that the two units near the boss can hit through walls but if you notice it then it's trivial to avoid.
>>728744754It's pretty strange how her starting weapon is a Bronze Lance in rev, considering that she starts with a Brass Naginata in every other version of the game. Well, technically in CQ she doesn't have a starting weapon, but her being placed with a Chest Key right next to a chest with a Brass Naginata in it on her join map isn't exactly subtle.
>>728743614Next remake will be FE1 tho
if anything noticing the ranges means you can easily fight them from the healtiles which makes it easier
the boss isn't on a throne/gate so if you're willing you can retreat to the healtiles to just outlast him assuming you can damage him once without dying
>Makes him live through the whole game>He dies anywayHe deserved a way better fate than whatever this is...
>>728745417>Alfred is an Arran archetypeIt's better than the dogshit ending that Canas got, at least
the game picks up eventually i swearch9 save: https://files.catbox.moe/1pxwv3
fire emblem pussy
>>728745417His "better fate" was supposed to be you getting him killed in combat
>>728747296
>>728737815It was a bad guy idiot.
For me it's Shamir
>>728749906fuck off
>>728749638he only knew that after the fact
Sex with Celine
>>728747296But what if it was all a ruse?
>>728737815For me, it's old Hector
>>728745417He longed a warrior death because he did something terrible in the past.You gave him the bad ending.
Tummy.
>>728753267Gay
>>728753267King Jobber
Wow these threads are slow.Thought it was because of another FR thread but just checked the catalog.Grim.
>>728756293If you're gonna post the Somniel's private slave dancer, at least post it at a better resolution.
>>728752505Next thread should be for her birthday tomorrow!
>>728756293You need to either make it bait or about awakening preferably both if your want a quick thread
>>728756293The threads are slow because the new captcha is effectively an IQ test for babies, and we all know the average IQ of the FE fanbase is a little on the low side.
>>728756419Thanks.
>>728756567Lets talk about Lore again
>>728756602They're busy burning RNs to get optimal captchas
>>728756648Of course.
>>728740319Bernie Bernie Bernie
>>728756859You’re not Berniebro
they should add words on the map like baba is you in the next fire emblem
>>728757136Veyle, stop making obscure references.
>>728757263Sexy lady. Idk who this is but still cool.
>>728757263Clarisse gets decent art for being a minor character from an unpopular remake.
>>728758038I'm pretty sure she has a commfag and I am grateful for this man.
>>728756602Which FE characters would or wouldn't be able to solve the new captcha?
>>728737815Did he get his refine yet?
>>728758653Hector, Surtr, Olwen, Reinhardt, and Ophelia are still refinelets.They did refine Fallen Edelgard, but it was genuinely bad, and the Arcane beast stone weapon that released at the same time is genuinely terrible for anyone that isn't its original user (Dedue).
>>728758230edelgard
>>728758139Im accustomed to them being gimmicky like Hooters Lucina fag.Wish Vikka had one.https://files.catbox.moe/acdbut.webp
>>728759206eat my hotdog
>>728759294Really only the Hooters guy is gimmicky like that.Off the top of my head, there are>Clarisse>Marianne>Ophelia>Nina>Kagero>Eitri>Seidrcommissionfags, and they usually just do docile pinup stuff.
>>728759447I'm sure that there's one commfag of Palla too.Or two, if the person who comms her pissing is a different guy
>>728759447look through the female_kiran tag on the boorus for some funny commers/skebbers
>kills all the guys and the girls just for standing in his wayMy FUARKING King
>>728743716>>728747296Altina flipped me over and tonged my anus.
>>728759950Isn't most of it just Evomanaphy drawing herself?I excluded some of the self-drawn characters. Otherwise I'd include Revolverwing with Eirika, Rotomdocs with Nerthuz, etc.
>>728760061>Altinaliterally who
>>728744976https://fireemblemwiki.org/wiki/Cornelia
>>728760572>DIMITRI, DON'T DO IT! DON'T FUCK IT! IT'S A MAN! DON'T GET TRICKED INTO SUCKING THOSE TITTIES!!! THEY'RE NOT REAL! DIMITRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!
>>728756859>>728756965I miss him.
>>728760735MILK
>>728760785your waifutard got gunned down by vatniks lol
>>728756859Tranny Tranny Tranny
engage girls are beloved by vfeg
>>728763071Is this some kind of autosuggestion? I can't imagine being that insecure
>>728763260He had to rush out a bot post to get his 20th necrobump in time
Is an axe even a good weapon to fight with?
>>728764329it's better than nothing but relatively to other weapons it's kinda shit
>>728764329It was one of the work tools peasants just grabbed when asked to fight because they didn't have actual weaponry made for them.
axe wound
>>728738110Canonically, do you know that Alfonse is 180cm (5'11) making him the prince of manlets and his older self is apparently 199cm (6'6) i.e not a manlet
>>728764329Axes are good but even better when combined as a polearm like a halberd/poleaxe
>>728764329Axes are harder to use than swords, but are better at penetrating armor because of their weight distribution.
>>728763071>>728763260I believe in both sides coming together in peace.
>>728740941Hector is street smart but he's not book smart.
Anyone else think the idea of FW to give nuns a gun a dumb idea?They have been experimenting with healers for a while with war monks, maids, shrine maidens, healers who punch and now they use guns.Feels like its a meme like the "I'm a healer but" or for the irony of a healer having such a letal weapon.The previous attempts felt more justified and inline with the idea of a monk or service person.I dunno feels like the gun thing is forced for the sake of being different and I'm afraid they will make something even dumber down the line.
>>728773361There's a lot about FW that seems dumb as hell
>if you take the Knight Crest away from Wallace in Lyn Mode, then he is basically guaranteed to die before you can even reach him in Four Fanged OffenseWow. Cool. Neato.
>>728759447>the Seliph x Larcei commissionfag
>>728773361If I wanted a healer to do damage I'd put her on a horse and give her a tome. Anything more than that is gay nu-emblem bullshit for faggots.
>>728759447The Hooters Lucina guy is based AF. I hope the fags and femcels of the FEH subreddit keep seething.
>>728773361>>728775012Its an "aesthetic" issue. Healers have always messed around with their weapon type.
>>728773361i prefer my nuns young and 'still considering their options'
Your reminder that dragon yuri is canon.
>>728753267because of this bara faggot his daughter has a thing for old ugly axe wielding bastards
>>728773361Mercedes was already like thisShe could not fight but for some reason was proficient with a bowShe would be even cooler with a gun
>>728773361More options is good. Not being able to do anything but heal sucks.
I will...to the next FE girl posted...
>>728756602Nobody is actually struggling with the new captcha. People were complaining at first because it completely broke x/xt. Threads are slow because FE doesn't have much to talk about currently.
>>728779554>doesn't have much to talk aboutRemember when gameplayfags would debate about optimal strategies in decade-old games? And blog about their challenge runs?What happened?
Reminder that Xane could be impersonating your FE girl as a prank, therefore you should be extra careful.
>>728780712I don't care if it MIGHT be Celine. It's CELINE. I'm going in for the kiss.
>>728780385>What happened?There are no sabotaged ironman relays to rage about at the moment, so most of gameplayfags are asleep.
>>728773361I may be a healer but…
>>728780385It's cyclical. We need a few months to recharge and forget the conclusion of every previous argument so we can have the exact same ones again.
Everyone, don't worry. Our hero has arrived.
>>728780814there's the rev relay which is moving at a snails pace
>>728782013>Start relay of game nobody likes>Surprised that nobody wants to play it
>>728781518god i hate that twirling nonsense animation. what were they thinking!?
>>728773361It's kinda weird that nu-FE has been so experimental with giving healers different weapons with every iteration. I guess they just picked that class to be their experimentations for new weapons since if it fails, at least the player can fall back to just healing.>>728778631Healers are like a less pronounced version of the dancer problem where giving them weapons is a little unnecessary since they have a much better function to serve every turn instead. Although you might not need a heal every turn unlike dancing which is useful no matter what so I do still see merit in giving them attacking weapons.
>>728773361Depends on if the gun nun's nun gun is a generic weapon or something closer to a prf. weapon. I'd be a little surprised if guns just because something standard than any unit of the right class can just use, at least not guns that look like modern pistols like hers did - I could maybe see blunderbuss or arquebuss being introduced as a generic kind of ranged weapon.
What is Edelgards post-war society supposed to be? A meritocracy? When she's stuffing the government full of her own highschool friends? How is John Dirtfarmer that can't read or write gonna compete with Henry the Inbred, a former noble that still has all his education and money and connections?
>>728783371I think Rhea should rule the entire continent with absolute authority.
>>728783450You jest, but at least the central church seems commited to doing all the good shit they preach. If Rhea wasn't such an ineffectual ruler that lets all the various church offshots be run by corrupt retards all of Fodlan would be in a better place.
>>7287825523h animations have that weird mocap uncanniness to them, but they're also so rigid it's like watching them take turns. I'm glad at bare minimum IS cares about battle animations. I don't find myself turning them off in SoV and Engage because everything's snappy, reactive and there's enough flashiness I don't get bored watching it. It's cool to see characters actually block or parry on an evasion or swat an arrow out of the air.
>>728773361Healers are fundamentally boring, weak, and gay in a combat oriented game - which most video games are. IS used to get around the healer lameness problem by giving them powerful white magic. Since they don't like to innovate in that space anymore for whatever reason, now you get muscle medics. This is just the latest iteration on the same trope and it will most likely be useless and bad again.
>>728784660Rhea is TOO merciful. Only the likes of Mercedes and Marianne should be allowed live.
>>728786079>muh combatFuck you, utility units in strategy games are more enjoyable than any combat unit when done right.
>>728786079what are you smoking healers are the most powerful they've ever been in engage.
>>728774845Like I said, I excluded gimmicks like that.The entire thing is quite literally just an NTR wankfest, since TD hates Firstaid.
>>728786631>when done rightAnon, like it or not, healers mostly suck in RPGs. They're too reactive, rather than proactive. If your "utility" can be replaced by an easily purschable item, you'd better start job hunting. You have to go out of your way to make healers offer ACTUAL refresher-level or flier utility and IS historically has not been up to the task, which is why every non-warping monk and monkette has been a low tier, low value unit.>>728786685They're weak as shit in Engage, what. All they have is chain cope, pretty much no one wants to use arts and better classes can use staves on the side.
Is there any hack to make FE8 harder anons?
>>728787119There's like a billion but most of them are not good
>>728787379Yes, that's why i'm asking for some recommendation, FE8 is simply too easy for me.
>>728786995maybe you should specify you're talking about martial monks specifically when you're complaining about "healers" not being powerful enough in the game that exceeds thracia's staff utility thanks to miccy's ring being broken. and chain guard isn't cope. it's the best tool early game for manipulating ai because the ai doesn't check if it'll activate when it detects a kill.
>>728787509Just use the randomizer to increase enemy growths
>>728787773I do this for PoR Hard since fuck playing Maniac Mode.
>explicitly responding to a post about nuns, monks, mikos, and assorted clergy, with a picture of Mercedes>uhhh, why didn't you mention Ivy???Staves are good in Engage, healers are bad. It's that simple. But we weren't talking about staves, we were talking about healers so I talked about healers.IS should consider giving this shitty archetype something to real to contribute for once in FW but I'm not holding my breath.
>>728787974can you respond like a normal person
>>728788106I forgot your (you). Can you stop being a literal catty nitpicking faggot at this point, all based on your misunderstanding of my original post?
>start of ch8should i use my last master seal for alear?i already got MK citrinne
Framme pitz
>>728788302>Promoting at 20 in EngageShiggy
>>728787509Like the other guy said, just open up Yune and jack up enemy growths if a harder FE8 is all you care about. The only FE8 rebalance hacks I would recommend don't actually go in too hard in trying to up the difficulty.
Speaking of 3H, the only good “healer” character was Marianne because she was packing so many powerful offensive options. Mercedes is considered one of the worst units in the game, Linhardt is almost as bad but is being salvaged by warp, Flayn doesn’t even learn physic, and Manuela is more of a support mage than healer.
>>728787773How do i do that?
>>728788387i think i know what im doing...
>>728788193all I'm saying is that you weren't clear on what you were talking about. you got 2 confused responses as a result and now you're angry I couldn't read your mind in the initial post. apparently hortensia and pandreo aren't "healers" because in your autism brain they're not in the designated "healer" class? am I getting that right? you have to understand you can't separate staves and healing because that's the tool that does it.
MK citrinne
my lv20 sexline
>>728742730This describes intuition more than direct intelligence. I doubt he’d be any good at Calculus but he’s good at knowing when someone is bull shitting him. Different brain regions, ultimately.
>>728788509Hortensia is overrated as shit, frankly. She's basically the game's Priscilla, a high-move staffbot. She's nice utility but take her out and nothing really changes.Pandreo is just a warper and potential Mage Knight (getting him into a better combat class).You're not contradicting my point, you're supporting it. Healers suck when you get down to it.Healers used to have nigh exclusive access to staves like Hammerne, Sleep, Berserk, and Warp. What little they had uniquely going for them has been eroded through a long procession of design changes and has been replaced by...nothing special.
>>728788835>Hortensia is overrated as shiti think hort should be use with time reversal + nodus
>>728789009>nodussfm?
>>728788835>5 tile freeze>5 tile obstruct>5 tile warp of four different varieties of warp including warping things to you>offensive support with fracture>staff accuracy that can scale off pure luck thanks to divine pulse>giga fortify full party max heal>nothing specialagain I want to know what you're smoking.
whats the next step on this "master tactician" plan?
>>728789463Destroying this continent... with no survivors
>>728789370nta.>>5 tile freeze>>5 tile obstructthis isnt hortensia limited though>giga fortify full party max heali actually havent tried if her personal further increases fortify AOE
>>728789463setting his own base on fire
>>728789370I swear it's like you're straight up not reading my posts. I'm not talking about staves. I'm talking about healer classes - primary healer classes. There is nothing in Micaiah's kit that demands a healer class or grants important bonuses or exclusives to healers. You don't even need to be in a magic class to use Micaiah at 95% effectiveness. Divine Pulse is literally not even a staff based skill at all, what the fuck are you prattling on about?Again, the issue is that healers - your monks, your priests, your troubs - are boring units in modern FE. They have nothing unique to them. On the Venn diagram of Black Mages and White Mages, they get consumed by Black Mages, who do everything they do and more.
>>728789627I'm responding to his pearl clutching over gba staffs supposedly being more powerful than the shenanigans you can pull off in engage.
>>728789463Killing your potential allies to see what would happen
>>728789761You are a gigantic moron. I never even said shit about GBA. I was thinking more of Kaga games if anything. Play more games.
>>728789675if it feels like that it's because you're incoherent and can't stick to a single point. how did we go from "healers aren't powerful, but I'm referring to martial monk specifically without so much as implying it" to "every healing class is boring" exactly? I'm trying my best here, but you're incapable of articulating what you're talking about.
>>728790097No, you're genuinely just a stupid motherfucker. I mean it, I'm not just saying it to hurt your feelings. The whole reply chain has been about actual monks and nuns, and you still can't figure it out and keep introducing irrelevant shit like Divine Pulse into the equation. Remarkable, profound, and special stupidity.
Fire Emnlem needs more party buffing staves
>>728790734I read that as "party buffing slaves."
>>728790734thats enchanter already
>>728790229so you want to complain about healing being boring in modern fe, but you think a quirk skill of engage that enables high luck units to have an important niche as staff bots is irrelevant to the conversation?
>>728790879Also this. I also wish weapons had special effects to them, also magic had effects. Like fire tomes should put hp to 1 on the next turn or something, frost tomes should freeze enemies or something, make it OPLances should have 2 range etc swords bleed blah balh balh
>>728791171>Lances should have 2 rangeBut they do already.
Yes, a general-purpose RNG-manip skill is irrelevant to the topic at hand of how to give healers an interesting niche in modern Fire Emblem, you absolute shitting retard. I didn't (you) you on purpose this time, seethe about it.
>>728789463Imagine if Claude was the US president during WW2>Let's nuke the brits, I just wanna see what happens haha
>>728791241Whoops, forgot to reply. Meant for >>728791019
>Healers are terribleYour average FE troon IQ everyone.
>>728792065Reminds me of back in the day when you had retards on gamefaqs forums calling dancers bad.
>>728792065No wonder so many relays went to shit when we have so many retards undervaluing staff users.
>>728737815I do this often in video games, where winds meet is fucking hilarious because i can just pick people up and throw them out of my way
>>728792065Consistently some of the worst, most replaceable units in their games, unless they can warp soon. Elen is considered a bad unit entirely based on the fact that Saul has a higher staff rank. The fact that you dumbasses like to feed Serra dracoshields and robes and doesn't change her fundamental shittiness.
>>728792065Medeus had four healers and lost.Therefore, healers are bad.
how many staff users do you use in your fe12 h4 team?
>>728792374My staff would get some use with Femleth, if you catch my drift
>>728792373Saul and Helen are functionally the same, and anyone who rates her far lower than Saul is a complete retard. Every unit can fight, but barely any can provide the unmatched utility of staves.
>>728792541Marisha + Etzel + sometimes Katarina or Frost
>>728737815is THIS your idol?
>>728792596>absolutely terrible pickup lineShez, is that you?
>>728792373we do that to serra because it's fun. same reason we're ride or die on bowzu.
>>728792617>a whole 50 staff uses worth of difference between being able to use the good staves or not is "functionally the same"
>>728792617>but barely any can provide the unmatched utility of staveshmm...except the common vulnerary...
>>728792065We lost every healer in one of the FE7 runs before reaching the dread isles and it didn't really even matter. I think that run ended up losing to BBD or something lol
what games should I play if I like FE but don't want to play nuFE? I've already played all the old ones, obviously.
>>728792952Andaron Saga
>>728792952>Give me the answer to 2 + 2 and none of that 4 nonsense!Filtered by Conkino
>>728792952heroes
>>728792774Elen joins on ch2, while Saul joins on ch6. Getting her to C rank at around the same time as Saul is a non issue.>>728792795>Wasting a turn and inventory slots on your combat unit for minimal HP>Can't even Restore status
>>728792952kaga saga
>>728792617Ellen is factually worse than Saul. But not more than a tier.
>>728787509Stop deploying Seth
>>728793207>50 turns of healing across 4 chapters is a "non-issue"just use clarine if you're gonna grind
>>728793230This>>728793315>Using your force deploy staff user is grinding according to retardsIt's around 12 heals per chapter, which is pretty reasonable for the overly long early FE6 maps. Worst case, she reaches C rank a bit after you get Saul, big deal.
>>728793315When you realize anons play exactly the way they do in the relays - when they're being watched - you realize the origin of every dumb take here. People really do grind the shit out of these games and can't understand why you wouldn't want to. Every time I complain about FE6 hit rates, I get told to essentially grind the problem away (supports).
>>728792702She was made to amazon press Shez with a completly deadpan expression
>>728793702Not an issue even without support grinding.
>>728793702Your skill issue is showing
>>728793860post chapter 7 clear and count the amount of sub-75 hitrates
>Not an issue even without support grinding.
>>728743842Eeeeh maybe?FE7 has a dogshit story, and your first playthrough is forced to be one of the least interesting playthroughs of the series, because Eliwood Normal mode, with Lyn Mode boosts is stupidly easy. Even Sacred Stones, which is actually easier, at LEAST makes your power trip feel sorta earned, because you do put in the effort in making your dudes OP as fuck. On the flip side, even if you use an emulator version that lets you skip to Hard immediately, 7 might be a little too hard for a first timer, since the difficulty is pretty front loaded, before you get your bearings.FE6 and FE9 are probably the best entry points, both are legitimately interesting playthroughs on normal, that give you the tools to play anything else on Hard, I feel. FE5 is fantastic, but is absolutely brutal for a first game, since it assumes you already understand the basics, before twisting shit on you. 11/Shadow Dragon is another good starter entry. Very high lethality game, with minimal actual penalty for losing any unit not named Caeda. Good illusion of difficulty, teaches you to understand and respect unit death.There's worse starter points than 7, I'll say that much. Just, if it feels really boring, and like your choices wound up not mattering all that much by the midway point, understand that is the albatross of FE7 specifically, as enforced upon new players, because Eliwood Normal mode is lackluster as is, even before you pay the gaijin tax of the Lyn mode fluffing session
uh oh you criticized fe6 thats a doncord melty
>>728793961>My hitrates aren't all 100 so the game is badCompelling. Now I see why you faggots love FE8 so much.
>>728793702>anons play exactly the way they do in the relaysThat's not true. Whenever there's a gameplay discussion it's clear that these threads are full of super LTC masters who have minmaxed the perfect way to clear each chapter, but when the relays start everyone pretends to be terrible at fire emblem as a joke.
>>728794126>already backing out and deflectinglol.
>>728794076FE6 is overrated as hell, but it's not because of le hit rates meme. 2RN alone ruins any semblance of having to manage hit and avoid rates.
>>728794207I'm sorry you're suffering from poor hitrates after benching Lugh in favor of Lot or some shit lol
>>728794175I usually play pretty fast but not like, as a point to, just a byproduct of not grinding my tits off and doing pointless shit. No one notices or cares because I guess the 50-turn elongated assfuckings (eggs) or taking 100+ turns on kitsune map are more memorable.
>>728793702People don't play the same for relays at all, that's part of their appeal. When you suddently have to count your tome uses for your mage because someone simply didn't bother to buy more or when someone somehow got your pegaslut killed super early, of course you'll play differently.Granted, some people get too stage nervous or too scared of not having their usual strategies available and end up playing as cowards, but I can't be too harsh on them. Nobody wants to be the guy who kills the run.
>>728793702You just need to plan around a certain number of attacks missing, and having backup plans.Take your riskiest plays first in a turn, that way you have units in standby to bail you out of the problem. If you're ever actually in the situation, where you need to hit this 65% or you just lose, understand that's almost always a skill issue on the strategic level. You should have made a better plan, such that the 65% was a possible way things could have been done easier, with a better chance to close it out being plan B. Sometimes, sure, rng just fucks you, but that's life, and planning around degrees of failure is literally like a third the point of these games. Planning around degrees of failure, resource management, and balancing short term payout versus long term profit, against risk-reward payouts are the three pillars fire emblem is built on.
>>728793702>Ugh, you mean I have to le PLAY this game??>That's so non epic, my discord buddies would disown me if I didn't do an awesome sauce low turn speedrun clear! Why are these threads like this?
Why does FE have such a cancerous community holy shit. I barely go to these threads and I haven't seen this much rampant autism since dropping by the Touhou threads. You don't see other groups get like this.
Fire emblem
>>728794753What if you just played the map...normally, at a normal pace? Instead of walking on eggshells like you're brand new for dozens of turns, or worse, outright arena grinding? Is it literally just that choice, versus whipping out the bad dragon dildo & programming socks for a lua-script RNG rigging sesh? There's no middle ground??
>>728794959What's supposed to be wrong with FE threads?
>>728794968Get out
>>728795119no
>>728795029Define a "normal pace"
>>728794667You can have all that without the average hit rate being 65. Only FE6 devs didn't get the memo. And Gaiden devs I guess.
>>728794959I love these gameplay discussions even if they're a little shitflingy. Beats the other type of FE discussions that go on here.
>>728795173>the average hit rate being 65Bro only uses steel axes
>>728795270if he were he would be averaging 45 (not even hyperbole btw)
>>728795165I can't think of a map in any game we played to or near completion that takes more than 30 turns, even if played cautiously. If less skilled players take double that, maybe that would be understandable, in the most extreme cases. Taking 50+ turns as a general thing is baffling to me, these games aren't that hard and I tend to think people who are doing it just don't know how to accurately assess risk in FE.
>>728795173>average hit of 65So 75% true and that's not average at all.
>>728794753I recently looked up the low turn "efficiency" discord and it was totally dead. Serenesforest has been dead for ages, too. Strangely, /v/ might be the only place where people (claim to) play this way.
>>728795446There are no efficiency fags here. Playing at a brisk pace without grinding is not efficiency
>Every Fire Emblem game I play I move my units as a big ball, strongest up front>Whenever I approach an enemy group, I send one strong unit to the very edge of one enemy's movement range to kite one enemy at a time>Find out this is the bad way to play for unskilled players and /v/ would crucify me if they found out I play like this It turns out I am not an epic gamer.............
>>728795770The really good games don't allow you to play like this
>>728795363That's... an outright generous definition for a normal pace. Fair enough.That being said, I think people taking more turns than that are not risk adverse, but rather they enjoy grinding. Getting Wendy to 20/20 off an arena has nothing to do with being scared of risk, for instance.
>>728795770That's actually a good strategy for Fog of War maps though.
>>728795495>Playing at a brisk pace without grinding is not efficiencyTake that up with leddit and everywhere else then, who still use it in their tier lists. It's always been a vaguely defined term. Most people think the early Engage units are kinda bad and clearly not usable at their "efficient" pace, when in reality they're kidding themselves at the rate they play. You can make even Anna into a monster at sub-10 turns a map and average tierlisting efficiencyfag is taking twice that in a lot of maps.
>>728795770It's a strategy that works on some maps, but that usually gets punished by FE's incentives to not do that. Really, the main criticism I have for that strat is that it would bore me to death.>>728795909Not that true at all, especially with IS loving to combine fog with other objectives such as Turn Limits.
>>728795029>REEEEE PLAY HOW I WANT YOU TO PLAYt. never picks up saves
>>728795909I thought it had less to do with strategy and more to do with being an epic hardcore gamer so smart you can beat a map in x turns?
>>728796297Well yeah obviously if there's a turn limit, you can't turtle it up too hard but I don't there's as many of those as you think. But one of people's biggest fears with FoW is some punk coming up out of nowhere and killing your squishers so a good strategy really is to ball it up, put the squishers in the center and surround them by the strong units who can take a random mook coming in from the mist. Sometimes you won't even get caught by surprise if you're properly using thief sight and torches.
>>728792373Healers become more useless the better you are at FE. That’s why they need the utility spells.
>>728796539You'd be surprised, far more FoW maps in the series than you might think have secondary objectives that force you to not death ball. I can only think of a small minority that lets you get away with it, if anything.>Sometimes you won't even get caught by surprise if you're properly using thief sight and torchesThat's the best strategy for fog, simply scouting properly with the many resources the games give you to do just that. For some reason though, a lot of retards refuse to do that and get mad when they inevitably get punished.
>>728794959Because it's an extremely simple strategy rpg that only requires as much brainpower as the peak of mount dunning kruger achieves to optimize, with rng thrown in to make any cockamamie scheme possible if you reset enough.
>>728796852ThisThe only real exception is 3 Houses, but that's more because of the wonky way unit and class balance works in that game, and how the prospect of 8 goddamn bishops filling your deployment slots completely changes the way yiu approach juggernauting.
>>728797047Based normal mode KING
>>728796852It's the opposite, actually. The better you get, the more proactive your strats become, and the more you need healing+utility staves. On the opposite end of the spectrum, there's very little use for staves when you play defensively since you can easily spare turns on Vulnenaries, rotate out damaged units, and stall out usually threatening mechanics like Siege weapons and status staves. Plus, grinding makes your units stronger, lowering the number of times that you actually want to heal them.
>>728797047Fire Emblem Conquest was literally the hardest turn based game I've ever played. I had to drop it. Which was weird because the partner game to it was so piss easy I had to force myself to finish it. I have no idea why Nintendo made the games so wildly different difficulty-wise.
>>728797596Birthright being easy as fuck and Conquest being hard as fuck was on purpose. Conquest was designed with experienced players in mind and advertized to them, while Birthright was shilled to casuals. The game even warns you when you have to choose between both routes that the Conquest route is much harder and that it won't allow grinding unlike Birthright.
>>728797453I mean obviously having a healer or maybe two (deployment permitting) improves action economy, it's just that it's not *valuable*. It's throwaway utility, filler. You would cycle out a second healer for even a middling combat unit in many cases, or a unit that offers more unique utility. And it's also true that a healer often can't even keep up with your fastest units anyway, so they have a lot of dead turns or turns where it seems like they're doing something, but they're not really.It's honestly the same in other SRPGs, too. Healers blow cocks in Unicorn Overlord. It's just hard to make a pure healer good in a singe-player game about killing lots of stuff.
>>728795363I can think of a couple that might naturally run over 30, played somewhat reasonably. The Miklan/fuck Gilbert chapter of 3 houses, for example, there's a lot of actual ground to cover between you and the boss, you need to stop and deal with reinforcements a few times, and need to position yourself in occasionally weird ways to avoid aggroing the entire map. Sure, you could probably warp skip it on turn 1 or 2 if you power level Lysithea or some shit, but that's not really a normal way to play the map, either. Actually a lot of shitty traffic jam castle maps probably get up to 30ish just from the floorplan navigation alone.
>>728797839Other SRPGs don't even have permadeath so healing is especially bad. Why heal your units when you can just treat them all as kamikazes?
>>728798023Do you actually play SRPGs that arent FE?
>>728798401Yeah
>>728797839Healing in UO isnt particularly useful because its too easy to create a meme team that blows up all the enemies before they can do anything. But calling them useless isnt exactly correct because they can provide utility in other ways beyond direct healing.
>>728797839I find the opposite, I deploy 3 staff users per map in most games (2 specialized minimum), and sometimes deploy 5 of them or even more on maps where I find them to be valuable. Staves offer absolutely insane utility compared to pure combat units, be it silencing the annoying Siege tome fucker, restoring status, rescuing someone into a better position, using Barrier to counter the magic enemies, or torching to see the map, to name a few examples. Having several staff users allows me to play much faster and more reliably, since I don't have to overwork my staff users.Meanwhile, pure combat units do what? Attack? My staff users can also do that, so they'd have to fight far better than my staff users to be worth it.
>>728798468Then you'd know that many of them have good reasons to not suicide your units willy nilly if you intend on clearing maps with any reasonable pace.
Wut uhhhh... wut Fire Emblem should I start with?
>>728798779Fire Emblem Awakening on Lunatic difficulty
>>728798779>>728794051
>>728798604The only semi-legitimate use I ever found for the actual Cleric class is as an AP battery slave, with that staff that trades AP to another unit. But Scarlett, Owls, and Shamans can do that too, while actually doing *other* useful things. The pure healer classes are such keks - the angels you get in the last zone are fucking awful, completely specced in on overhealing, it's comically pointless that far into the game when you're running 3+ tacticool nuke squads.
>>728798779Fire Emblem Fates: Conquest. Sink or swim lil nigga
>>728798779Andaron Saga
>>728798779clair obscur
>>728798779FE7, FE8, awakening, or the switch games are good starting games
>>728798779FE7 or FE8 for the GBA (also available on NSO)Awakening for the 3DSThree Houses if you have a Switch
>>728798851Shamans and the others generally have better things to do with their AP.
>>728798992>clair obscur>light dark>byakuya anyaSo Fire Emblem If?
>>728798779I usually reccomend 9, Path of Radiance, 11, Shadow Dragon, or 6, I forget its sub name, the one with Roy. They have pretty engaging Normal mode playthroughs that won't put you to sleep, while still giving you room to play like shit, and learn the staple mechanics of the series. Most of the others are either weird and expect you to understand the basic mechanics of the series to engage with the game at all, or have utter snoozefest normal mode playthroughs, with the hard mode being too hard for someone still learning the basics/unavailable unless playing on emulator with modified game files.Bear in mind, the most modern fire emblem games have 3 difficulties. Normal (piss easy, game beats itself), Hard (Easy), and Maddening (The developers didn't playtest this shit), and don't have a good difficulty option at all.
>>728799118Well in truth I find Shamans to be slightly overrated, but at least they do a couple things extremely well and you can build around it. Thing is, a Shaman being misused as an AP battery is still as good as the best possible Cleric. Owltits mog both as a staff support class.
>>728799312>Path of Radiance normal mode won't put you to sleepNigga it's 2 successful trials away from being prescribed by doctors to treat insomnia
>>728799312>They have pretty engaging Normal mode playthroughs that won't put you to sleep,>PoRAnon PoR is literally a sleep aid on normal.
Path of Somnabulance
smellius uncs are deranged
>>728795770That's exactly how I play too and I steamroll everything, it's great. Every time a tierlist fag or Redditor talks shit about armors being bad I laugh my ass off then go have another clean run where my star is an armor.
>>728737815You dropped this, king
>>728799882tierlists aren't about beating the game, they're for a specific type of gimmick playthrough that no one actually plays
>>728799243no game of the year 2025 clair obscur: expedition 33.
>>728799882Armors bad was always a midwit take desu. In most games they have their niche, and they are always good if your playstyle takes advantage of them. They're not like archers who actually actually were laughably bad for most of the series.
>>728800000Nigger
>>728800117Armors are shit, retard
armors bad
>>728800000holy fuarkkkkkkkkkkkk AI gods WON
>>728800000faggot.
>>728800000>Clair Obscur: Expedition 33>Light Dark: Exp 33>Fire Emblem If: Average Kill ExpAha, so it was Fire Emblem: Revelation!
>>728800158Midwit detected
>>728800117Most armors are shit thoughNot because of the low move, slow play thing, that IS a midwit take.The actual issue is armors almost always end up taking MORE damage than other units, because they're slow enough to get doubled consistently, and often struggle with poor accuracy, meaning they don't chip, and are a fat turd that needs to he pulled out of the way to actually kill something.The good armors all behave differently in some way, like Oswin who is super fast, or Louis, who is so tanky it doesn't matter if he gets doubled. Armors are way better in reclass emblem because you can cram reasonably fast characters into armor, so they don't get doubled as much.
>midwit became a term used by midwits
>>728800158>>728800173>>728800459midwits
why do I always get those on my laziest shitposts
>Midwit calling others midwit
armors good is a midwit take
>>728800459>Oswin who is super fastBrother, you're overthinking thisOswin is not "super" fast, he's not even a little fast. You're just rehashing the myth the armors have issues with the one thing they're good at, i.e. tanking.It really is as simple as it looks. Slow and can't move, are shit. Has nothing to do with a lack of bulk.
Armor Good is a deep strategic take by big brains.
>>728800459>Armors are le bad!>Except Doga>And Oswin>And Duessel>And the PoR armors>And in SD>And in NM>And in Engage>Oh, and Douglas, non Meg RD armors,, Awakening and Fates armors are also decent>And all armors are strong af if trainedArmors are just a good class that midwits started to hate after they were told to hate them.
I don't even know how to properly communicate how shit armors have historically been to armorfags. They live in an alternate reality and are immune to reason.
Armors good if they're cute girls
>>728800812>I don't even know how to properly communicateWe know, midwit
>>728800798Literally 90% of what you listed is wrong
>>728800798training units is for midwits though because fetubers said so in 2014
>armorkeks have to resort to appropiating duessel now
>>728800889I'm sorry to say, but those are usually the bad ones. Then again, them being cute girls with bad stats means that people want to scrimblo them, so they loop back around to being good. Hm, maybe IS was onto something when designing female armors...
>>728800910The pickings are slim preasu understando
remember that time an anon offed a grinded up wendy on purposegood times
I'm a centerwit actually.
>>728800798this
>>728800889I like that Heroes turned her into a mechamusume. Hasn't had that much artistic license and sovl since, except for the trad-media guy who does Jagen and all the old men.
>>728800910>D-DOESN'T COUNTHe's treated as an armored class for effective damage, has low spd, has high str and def, plus he is in the armored promoted class. He is more of an armor than anything else.
>Frederick...is le armor knight
Myrrh is a pegasus because she takes effective damage from arrows
>>728800910>Dussel isn't an armor because...reasons
>>728800798>luka (fe2) is good>dalsin can use the brave axe in the hardest part of the game>xavier has a leadership star, wrath, can use the brave bow
>>728801228He's a cav, because he has cav skills. If he had armor skills, he'd be an armor.
Why didn't they let him marry Serra?
>>728801228Ahh... feels good knowing Wendy's reputation is saved by Fred and Duessel. They're so much alike!
lmao antiarmors are having a melty
all horse units are the same because they die to horseslayers
>>728801357By this logic, you have to acknowledge Duessel is both equally a cavalier and an armor. Sacred Stones doesn't make the distinction. Cav half is where the good hair comes from.
>>728800798Armor knight is like the worst class in the game in Fates lmao. Effie is only usable past the early game if you reclass her out of it.
>>728801360Serra is for annoying Matthew till he rape corrects her
Armors frequently have overkill bulk desu.
>>728801521Same for Engage (lolI remember thinking the class had finally arrived and had its day on first impression, until all the problems started surfacing. Can't even catch a break in the game with globally shit-nerfed movement.
I unironically love shitposty gameplay reply chains like this. You will never see FFTfags be this passionate about gameplay, we on the other hand ALWAYS find a gameplay topic to fill an entire thread with shitposting about.
>low speed>high defense>takes effective damage from horseslayer (just like my favorite armor duessel!)This is an armor knight
>>728801708The Louis wank was definitely something. Then everyone stopped coping and yeah armors are shit still
>>728801484Yeah, but then you have to take into account that Duessel has stats far more fitting for an armor than a cav. He's more an armor than he is a cav.
Sigurd is knighted by Arvis in the prologue of FE4, making him a knight. In his sprite, he is wearing armour and his horse has barding (armour). In other words...
>>728801708>Can't even catch a breakWell duh. Armors nullify break.
>>728801750Looks like an Armor knight to me
the first time i ever beat lunatic conquest endgame without cheesing was with like 4-5 different generals so theyre pretty good actually
>>728801854Louis is the real jeigan of Engage.
>>728801893based snek chad
>>728801965>the most detailed part of Winter Seidr's art is the emphasis on warmth and softness in her armpitWhat the FUCK did they mean by this?
>>728802106Seidr is built for us summoners.
>>728801965I prefer the drunk choco snake
ArmorCHADS, we won
It's always funny when armorfags try to use units like Duessel and Frederick as "proof" their class is good, because it literally does the opposite by demonstrating they need to borrow traits from other class lines to be usable
>>728764329His name was Young Bull
>>728802335Her lines got dubbed finally, and the woman did a good job.But I still vastly prefer my babymama goddess.
>NOOOOO YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TREAT THE PROMOTION PATH OF ARMORS AS ARMORSKek
knight kris makes fe12 so much easieryou reclass him later on, but still
>>728802556They are armors in the sense that they have armor weakness and the movement penalty compared to standard cavalry.However, Fred does come with the T1 Cav skills so...
>>728802595no pantyhose on snekwives
>>728802796Literally only for the prologue. The class is shit, otherwise.
>>728801928wary fighter carries generals
>>728803551Wary fighter is the worst skill in the game on anyone other than Benny
you don't understandif you give them all the kills, all of the stat boosters, the boots, send all the cavs and fliers exclusively to the sidepaths and rig every level up armors will hit endgame with every stat being the funny green color and stomp the remaining 5% of the game
>>728800000What a waste of a good quint holy shit
So, need any more proof that anti-armor fags are midwits?
>>728803006Too bad. I want Plegian Seidr.
armors lost
>>728804026*won
>>728800000
>>728803524General kris is amazing in chapter 6In chapter 7 he can stay near the start to kill the dragon and handle reinforcementsIn chapter 8 he's godly once againThen I'd reclass him. But later on you might want to reclass Catria to general for a few chapters.
>>728800000Look at these trannies malding on the replies
>>728804202Fuck off samefag
>>728803964Midwit here.I like (some) armors
FE6 armor triangle attack is the saddest thing I've seen
Idea, how about Armor becomes a separate stat from Defense?Armor reduces Weapon Strength from the opponent's attack while Defense reduces user strength from the opponent's attack
Why are Dancers, despite their class and garb actually innocent and cute?
>>728804229dial8
>>728804165non-dracoknight kris in chapter 7 is absolute retard shit. same in chapter 8, reallyyou should only do general on arran on a couple maps. otherwise you're wasting kris' class when he one rounds everything as literally anything else.
>>728804442>Armorslayers deal 0 damage to armors onlyGreat design, retard
>>728804509gap moe
Mage Kris
>>728804509That's the idea
Mario and Luigi >Fagpedition 67
>FE nindian caring about the Cattle awards
>>728804557ok, the other away aroundArmor reduces user strength from attackDefense reduces weapon strength from attack
>>728804509I wouldn’t have them any other way.
>>728804509Someone hasn't played Sacred Stones
>>728804713how many years has it been since the last good m&l rpg? 20 years? damn that's almost like FE
>>728803964Nah they've proven it conclusively. Another armorchad W.
>>728804526Palla can do the dracoknight stuff. Kris is practically invincible as general and has better growths. If he doesn't one-round something that just means he gets extra exp.
>>728805138If you Dancer up Marianne you're playing wrong.
>>728805143Tethys is such a babe.
>>728804000seidr is perfection the faggot femcel feh reddit can kiss my ass
>>728805195or you can just... beat the map with your best unit instead of grinding xp. why are we worried about xp on the unit that level caps by chapter 16chapter 7 also 100% requires multiple thief killers to get all the items and palla and kris are the only units that oneshot them without any help
>>728805143>>728805270
>armorfags keep coming up with all sorts of random bullshit to "buff" their units instead of addressing the real problem
>>728805251I know more than anyone how cracked Marianne’s skill set is. I just wanted to post her in the dancer outfit.
>>728800000holy moly checked
>>728737963This “Autism” reply would be more fitting for >>728738302 and >>728742696
>why do you...le favoritism your units? because thats what you faggots keep telling me is kaga's original vision for the series until the pissing contest starts
Revive Sothis already you cowards
>>728805448What's the real problem?
>>728801096>SpatsSome FEH artists are alright
>>728803628Enemy generals are cancer in conquest because it's nearly impossible to one-round them before they start gaping you
>>728805590Nobody wants a low movement slow fuck in their army that can't oneround anything.
>autosaging a thread 400 posts in
>>728745417>Rescue Nyna from Medeus>She vanishes after the war The curse of the Fire Emblem…
>>728805748Janny won...
FE asshole tier list
>>728805714If we change those things, you cease to have an armor knight.
>>728805748Jans love Eclair obscure
>>728805641Yeah because it's a skill that's only good on enemies. That's my point.
>First few posts are Waifu SpamWhat a sexually deprived thread lmao
Aura Flux: Engage 776
>>728805812Lewyn is cool it's just Forseti who's kind of an autistic prick
Fire Emblem with Mario and Luigi button presses
>>728806076
>>728806076No
>>728806076Yes
>>728806239KINOOOO
>>728805251Marianne is canonically a dancer.
>>728805398It's not that I'm worrying about exp, it's that I'm not worrying about one-rounding because kris is invincible and the game rewards you for additional rounds of combatIn chapter 6 general kris trivializes the reinforcements and final roomIn chapter 7 he draws the enemy reinforcements downward while your fliers deal with the thieves. Palla kills the ones that would otherwise escape while catria and caeda get easy exp.In chapter 8 kris clears the enemies, trivializes the reinforcements, and trivializes astram's heroesYou can still win if you use another class but you're just making things harder on yourself.
>>728800459Armors can be slow, but they should be able to tank some hits, and, most importantly, have weak as fuck attacking power so they can’t expose themselves to more attacks. They are roadblock units made to cause enemy traffic jams while your power units do actual important things.
>>728805143I don't play the bad games
next thread pregnant hag bush op please
It's fucking hilarious that the Hans room in ch 26 of conquest is filled with hammers as a final fuck you to armorsharts. Well, not final because endgame generals also have hammers but you get the idea.
>>728806640kys waste of air
>>728806527>I'm not worried about exp which is why I'm grinding on all the reinforcements any other kris build wouldn't need to fight in the first placearmorfags all play the same way
Why do Cavaliers get all the pussy while Armors sit alone in the castle?
antiarmor nigs can never comprehend this level of kino and fun
>>728806873>I'm sure to win because my DEFENSE is superior
>>728805812>shinon not in pathetic tierHe got drunk and cried over Ike being commander. He's also not an unapolagetic cunt, he's a tsundere.
>>728806912You can do this with a plethora of non-armored units. Melady and Perceval being prime examples.
>>728759447Faye and Fir use to have commissionfags.Ashame they stop.
>>728806912they can actually
>>728806930Damn just stop being poor and get a mount, or do some cardio
>>728806996Milady and Percival are not reaching the 20 DEF Duessel has at base without boosters or luck.
>>728807132>Duessel That's the second fucking time I did that now. I mean Douglas.
>>728806701FE games always make anti-armor weapons more common on enemies than anti-cav weapons for some reason
>>728807215Tbf that room is also filled with beast killers. Wyverns have nothing to worry about, however, proving once again that they are the ideal tank class.
Imagine needing an anti armor weapon, just bring out the can opener class Berserker
>>728807132Melady is expected to surpass 20 defense even if you promote at 10
All lance weapons should have anti-cav effectiveness by default.
>>728807473That doesn't sound very fun. We already know it's not fun when hacks spam effective weaponry TOO much.
Alear thread on the ‘log
>>728807564grim
My headcanon is that the evil King Arran said he served was Rudolf, because he has no connection to any other character in Archanea so it makes sense he'd be from abroad.
All axe weapons should have anti armor properties by default.
>>728807564Ewww
All weapons should have anti armor properties by default.
Honestly you idiots should shut up your ideas are genuinely terrible.
>>728804442The armor trait just needs to do something positive, instead of JUST being a fuck you button.Cavalry gets canto by default, armor needs something similar. Something like immunity to follow up attacks, or halving damage recieved by physical, non-effective weapons, or having a ZoC so enemies can't just move aroubd them and attack better targets. Something to actually help them tank, instead of dying horribly.
>>728807564
>>728806749Yeah I'd rather not race to the throne before the turn 2 reinforcements chase me down. Armor strats are easier and more reliable, so why bother with LTC strats? A-rank speed is good enough for me.
All swords should have anti infantry properties by default.
>>728807814>Something like immunity to follow up attacksThey already tried that in Fates.
>>728807629>>728807887Yeah.
Someone make a real thread
>>728807814>armors should just be better than everyone at everything
All bows should have anti mage properties by default.
>>728808156>Armors should just stay worse than everyone at everything
>>728808215Yes. They are meant to be “enemy-first” unit types
>>728808215Armorfags are so fucking delusional its insane.Their biggest problem is that they're overspecialized in an aspect that FE does not encourage from the player side.
