Are you ready for the next Blow kino?
is blow's game gonna blow ass or is it gonna blow the competition the fuck out?
I only play games that have a point and are favorably endorsed by Soulja Boy Tell ‘Em.>(You)
>>728760883I am Prepared to do some Blow for 500 hours straight
I'm super excited. Went straight to the top of my wishlist.Don't mind me. I'm just gonna scootch on into this thread and double dip posts in case my Baba thread dies:Anyone else played Nimi's Garden?Holy shit what a delightful puzzle. I'm so pleased with myself. I feel like a fucking genius. Grinning from ear to ear here.
>>728760883The puzzles are probably going to be great. The downside is that the graphical style is pretty ugly (as it was in Braid in my opinion). Overall I think going to like it a lot
>just spent $1000 on new hardware today and it stings>only game i'm excited for in the future is an android tier puzzlescript sokobanwhy must life be like this
>>728761204Visuals have never been Blow's expertise. But yeah, this looks especially boring.
>>728760883I'm ready for it to Blow my mind
>intelligent white man makes game>famous feral subhuman nigger tries to play it and says "its got no point"How was i supposed to witness this as a child and not become racist?
>>728760883I've been doing research into this game after the trailer released (reading articles and posts by people involved) because it was terrible and told me jack shit, and it led me to playing the 4 games that were a direct inspiration for the 4 worlds in Order of the Sinking Star, and they are actually amazing. I'm now 100% certain that this will be another Jon Blow masterpiece. And now for the games in question:>North: Heroes of Sokobanhttps://sites.math.washington.edu/~ostroff/puzzles/Heroes_of_Sokoban.htmlhttps://sites.math.washington.edu/~ostroff/puzzles/Heroes_of_Sokoban_II_Monsters.htmlhttps://sites.math.washington.edu/~ostroff/puzzles/Heroes_of_Sokoban_III_The_Bard_and_The_Druid.html>East: Mirror Isleshttps://alan.draknek.org/games/puzzlescript/mirrors.php>West: Promessthttps://silverspaceship.com/promesst/https://silverspaceship.com/promesst2/>South: Skipping Stones To Lonely Homeshttps://alan.draknek.org/games/puzzlescript/skipping-stones.phpI think it's funny that east and south worlds have the same names and the original games because they aren't copyrighted.
>>728760925>implying these are mutually exclusive
>>728763759This. I got warned for racism saying this last time.
>>728760883please god tell me the voice acting was just in the trailer
>>728763912I read the first 5% of OotSS consists entirely of full remakes of the PuzzleScript games, plus an unreleased Promesst 3 as an exclusive. The rest is said to be really ingenious remixes of the base mechanics>>728764324Not only are the characters voiced, there are Witness-style audio logs too...
>>728764514>I read the first 5% of OotSS consists entirely of full remakes of the PuzzleScript gamesI know, you can see a bit of that in these videos.https://youtu.be/3evFbPFXgMQhttps://youtu.be/YLxRsEPVA98>plus an unreleased Promesst 3 as an exclusiveI guess I'll be playing Promesst 2, then. Felt like I've had enough of the first one yesterday, though.
>>728764514>Not only are the characters voiced, there are Witness-style audio logs too...That's supposed to be a selling point?
>>728765049Normies will love it. The logs are actually about story this time unlike The Witness's philosophy quotes that just made everyone roll their eyes like they're on a college lecture
>>728763912I was about to suggest that Alan probably directly contributed to this game, but then I double-checked and got reminded how much of a little bitch he is. I still play his games.
>>728765443His website states that his games were "used as the inspiration and starting point", so I guess this means that he didn't have much to do with the development. At least he promotes OotSS instead of trying to boycott it somehow because he disagrees with Blow politically.
>>728765443>we can't work together - because of politicsDivide and conquer, demoralize, just as planned
>>728765294>Normies will love itYou think normies are going to play a fucking sokoban game with 1500 puzzles?
>>728761347im in the exact same boatjust bought a new $1k pc and all i want to play is cs2 at higher fps and 2d puzzle games
>>728765558At least his games are cool.
i hope it's easier than baba because i got absolutely filtered by baba really early on
>>728763912I like blow and promesst was based, thanks gor this info
>>728765947I also didn't get far into Baba is You and I'm currently being filtered by the third level of Skipping Stones To Lonely Homes.
>>728765294I liked the philosophy quotes. I preferred them way more than yet another audio play.
for me it's squishcraft
>>728760883honestly not really. the horrific marketing based around voice actors blabbering nonsense is a red flag imo. I was excited about this game in the past whenever it was shown because I love The Witness and I think Jon's talks about the decline of "tech" are brilliant. I have no issues ignoring some of his immature kneejerk takes on other games. but the fact that his idea of marketing his game is>spend huge money on being included in the one big games show per year, where every other game is some actionslop targeting casuals and your actual audience probably isn't watching>your trailer is boring and features globohomo, diverse sounding voice actors rattling off random ass lines that don't add up to set any stage or establish any mood>give them game a long, forgettable nameseriously, I've already forgotten it!I just can't ignore how awful absolutely every one of these decisions is. even if the game is good it is now a guaranteed flop thanks to the anti-marketing title and trailer. again, think about how they spent lots of money to drop their trailer at the EXACT worst time possible, when every other, more dopamine inducing game trailer is being released. talk about being stuck in the past and misunderstanding your audience.>>728762441Witness looked perfect for what it is.>>728765294>Normies will love it.Normies will never find out this game exists. it has zero mainstream appeal.
>>728763912>Heroes of SokobanThe wizard's swap is as much of a superpower as it is a disability. You really have to work around him in every level he is in.
>>728760883Maybe if I could remember the fucking title.
>>728763759>pretentious indie can't handle a stoner rapper being unimpressed by his xbla sidescroller>>ALL LE BLACKS MUST LE HANGthe racist pipeline is so insanely fucking dumb. my my.
>>728766647Explain how the niggers reaction to a puzzle game isnt evidence that negros are a lessee species, explain, make your perspective make sense to me.
>>728765443Notice how he listed every vice under the sun and EVEN HE didn't mention Jon being some misogynist who thinks genders aren't equal. That's because it's the most misconstrued asspull known to man yet big seed oil/bsky has been successfully peddling that talking point against him for centuries.
>>728767043I am a misogynist who thinks genders aren't equal. and frankly if you're anything else as a man you're mentally ill. as a woman I get that the allure of the cope is too strong to resist. who wouldn't want to believe one is simultaneously a historical victim recovering from oppression and just as good as the oppressor? that's powerful stuff, it's like a bribe. accept the falsehood and you will benefit. of course women lack the moral compass to resist it and most men would as well.but to be on the male side and accept the same brainwashing? any man over the age of 25 who still believes the egalitarian message is a lost cause. if you can't think for yourself by 25 you're never going to.
>>728767508Hello, Jonathan Blow.
>>728767614hope you're under 25, s o y boy.
>>728763912Wait really? Why do I learn of this from a random /v/ post and not from any of the official promotional material or even games media articles talking about it?
>>728769198pretty sure the trailer mentioned heroes of sokoban, but yeah it's wierd that this is the first I've heard of the other stuff too
>>728769514It mentioned "a land of heroes" (Sokoban is copyrighted), which is extremely abstract and generic. Mirror Isles and Skipping Stones to Lonely Homes are referred to by the actual name, but I'm willing to bet good money that less that 2% of people who have seen the trailer know about the original games.
>>728760883so you're telling me this guy spent 10 years, a whole decade, working on a game that looks like this. whats going on big guy.
>>728763912>https://alan.draknek.org/games/puzzlescript/mirrors.phpWait. This is fucking awesome. The trailer for the new game kind of failed to show how cool the mirrors were.
>>728769760But anon you don't understand he LITERALLY had to reinvent sokoban!
>odour of the stinking SAAR
>>728760883I'll try it, but I sincerely doubt it would be even close to Baba or SSR, his games just lack real complexity/good rule discovery.
>>728770541>his games just lack real complexity/good rule discovery.What makes you think that? It's not even out.
>>728767508This is why puzzles are important, If you force an adult like this to play Baba is You, he won't finish it ever, not in lifetime. Well, I guess only trying every possible combination will work.
>>728770541>SSRIt's shit.And Blow game will be shit.If you want puzzle and discovery, you have to play DROD.
>>728771148based knower
>>728769760I think it looks pretty good. The environments are detailed.
>>728774169i mean its not a super ugly game, but it looks like something an amateur indie team could cobble up together in like 2-3 years. why did it take a decade for this? it's guaranteed to be a financial and critical flop unless it has some otherworldy 200 IQ puzzles that revolutionize gaming forever which i highly doubt it will
>>728774234>why did it take a decade for this?Custom engine written in a custom language.
>>728763912I think it's funny how Blow steals other people's ideas and then larps as a genius.
>>728776160>stealsThe people who made those game consented to this. And the person behind Promesst even allowed for the unfinished Promesst 3 content to be used.
>>728769760He also wrote the programming language, the operating system, the video card drivers and the microcode for the CPU.
>>728771008>submitting to brainwashing actually means I'm SMART, chudt. the educated useful idiot
i'm looking forward to this selling poorly, thekla shutting down and jon eventually taking his own lifei'll pirate it tho cause the witness was gr8
>>728776863Thekla certainly didn't do themselves any favors with that trailer.
>>728775836Which is so hard to justify. Like I gotta wonder what in the hell is that supposed to be for.
>>728778253shit was a mess. just filled to the brim with awful voice lines.tb h all of the presentational decisions here are bad.the name is bad, the art style is middling, the concept art looks like it's for a mobile game.i don't know if anyone under the age of 35 even knows who jon blow is - if i didn't know about the witness i'd look at that trailer during the game awards and think this was a mobile game.
>>728778508He wanted to make a programming language because he didn't like C++, and this game is a proof of concept for it. I've also heard that the engine will also be released, open source.
>Hey Jon. We're gonna do you a solid and give you a trailer slot on the cheap. Just send us the uncompressed AVI cropped into 10 seconds segments on a USB via post within the next 24 hours. Make it snappy.
Blow's interview about this game and JAI:https://youtu.be/Wl6JiKbJyeM
>>728760883Why's everyone a nigger? JBlow's a white guy from a white family and likely only interacts with other whites in the industry, as there's not really any blacks there either.
>>728776801> means I'm SMARTNot really, it's just that in some puzzle games something may seen completely obvious but still be wrong due to your logical fault you made that you might not even noticed. I think it's a pretty useful experience - I've seen retards calling things they arrive with WAY sketchier logic "obvious".
>>728763912just finished mirrors, it's very coolI get why blow would be inspired, it seems like you could take the ideas there way further
>>728781398It respects the source material.
>>728781402
I liked Void Stranger.
>>728781643If that's actually the case then there's no issue.
I had a look at the leaked Jai language release and it sucks t.b.h. I wasn't surprised though; any illusion I had of Blow's competence in programming language design was shattered a while back when someone asked him on stream if Jai's memcpy() works for overlapping memory and Blow said that he doesn't remember and that it doesn't matter. Compare this to Rust where you have copy() and copy_nonoverlapping() so there's no confusion. I'm curious how things will turn out for Blow because it looks like both the game and the language might end up being total flops.
>>728781717I didn't really like it because it doesn't have an undo button. Very annoying.
>>728760883No, I don't think I need to feed his ego any more. It's bloated enough as is.
>>728776649For what purpose? The final result looks like it was slapped together with Unity and store-bought assets in a couple weeks.
>>728782101>>728778869
>>728782146That is not a good reason. That just showcases his arrogance and delusions of grandeur.
Why does the game look ugly as shit.Like it's so hard to read for a Sokoban.
blow likes trump and is a total CHUDcan't wait for him and his problematic game to CRUMBLE
>>728778869>>728782146Unity uses C#. Again, this is why I don' trust retards that think you need to build everything from scratch, from making everything in a new untested programming language to making an engine that does shit you can already do in Unity while not really doing anything meaningful to justify its own existence.They always ALWAYS make subpar products at best that don't justify the time and effort put into remaking the wheel. They out themselves as pseudo-intellectual retards doing the same shit everyone else does, but while taking longer due to hubris.
I fucking hate the witness I wanted to like it and then realized every set of puzzles was gonna be some "you gotta look at a glare or reflection at a specific angle to get spoonfed the solution and this is the only way to solve it"sorry but that's not puzzling that's pixelhunting, it's antithesis to the concept of "a puzzle" a puzzle lays practical simplicities in front of you and forces you to reconceptualize their configuration, the witness has you observe the environment for ever abstracting keys. That's what's called a fucking scavenger hunt. There's no out of the box thinking or working with what you have it's just moving the camera around until you stumble upon the answers.Anyway this new game looks great, 4 simple yet deceptively complex puzzles and we will see their concepts blended and increase in complexity as it continues. Seems like he saw a real puzzle game like Baba and completely shit his pants, decided to stop being a fraud.
>>728782206>>728782786Blow made 2 games in C++, had enough of it, spent 10 years making his own language and a game in it, and now every Thekla game after Order of the Sinking Star will be made in it. Whether you think he was wrong to do that or not isn't relevant since it's what happened. It's just the truth. Apparently, their next game will something like an extraction shooter, except it's not a shooter.
>>728783085>something like an extraction shooter, except it's not a shootera dentist simulator?
>>728782020The strength of other men's egos is not any skin off of your nose and to think otherwise is an envy worshiping marxian lie
>>728781817>total flops.Fear not, his Silicon Valley tech-bro sugar daddies are gonna bail him out, and off he is to the races, writing a Mine Sweeper on his custom OS for the next 20 years.
>>728783085I don't think there will be another Thekla game frankly. Blow has coasted off of the fame he had from Braid being the first indie game on the Xbox 360 arcade and that served him well for a decade afterwards. Now, in a market full of puzzle games that are better than Braid or anything else he's ever released, he's going to find out quickly no one cares any more and he should change careers because he's not a good programmer and not a good game developer in any capacity. Souja Boy was fundamentally right: there's nothing unique or special or worthwhile in his games and the mythic aura of his pedigree has long since vanished to make this all the more apparent.
>>728760883Only if it has an infinite going back in time potion.
>>728783507bet it has infinite undo. braid did. I see no reason this wouldn't.
>Take 4 games that already exist>Remaster them>Add extra levels that combine their mechanicsIs that it?
>>728783401Idk, I really liked The Witness, and the Braid remaster was really good (except for the platform collision in 2 levels, I had to switch to original graphics to finish those), he just failed to advertise it properly, as he did this game. This might be what actually bites him in the ass in the end, not the quality of what he makes.>>728783507It does, as almost all box pushing games do, including being able to undo a reset.
>>728783401an infinite sokoban certainly doesn't have the same mass appeal of a short 2D platformer or a first person puzzle/adventure game on a pretty island, this new game will be a test on how much of a loyal fanbase he still has
>>728782245I know. >>728774169Here you can see a church, that's somehow mostly filled with 'anti-soul gas' for whatever reason, with character models slapped on top in some really bad pseudo cel shading style and a bunch of simply out of place looking glowing blue and green interactables. I have no idea how someone could come up with art direction this poor and how many failures of judgement have to happen for things to work out like this.
>>728783665I do not care about his politics. I just think he talk too much about shit he really doesn't understand and I'm kind of sick of people pretending he's anything but an incompetent codemonkey.
>>728760883sure, if it is $40 I'll buy it
>>728783645I get the impression that he didn't know what he wanted to make and so just decided to remake a bunch of puzzle games because that's the simplest proof of concept he could do. I don't know that the 'rest' of the game built on top of that will be like.
>>728783812>incompetent codemonkeyHis first 2 games are quite polished, I can't call him incompetent.>>728783889I hope it's cheaper.
>>728783645You know nothing of sokoban. The genre is highly iterative.If someone made "baba is you, but with a twist" but it was executed well that person would nevertheless be a genius.
>>728783401>a nog is fundamentally rightYou aren't worth respecting and are only in this for the memes.
>>728784106Yeah sure, it'd be fine for a 10 dollar thing.Is this worth 20 years of work though.
>>728784308The custom language it's written in is the main product here, it seems actually decent.
>>728784419This
>>728783645Intermeshing 4 games' mechanics together is no small feat
>>728765443>lots of people worked on it, thereforeAnd?Entrepreneurs manage capital to organize labor. The fact that multiple people worked on it is Jon's contribution.
>>728784650What I'm really interested in is how he is going to mesh together the isolated level nature of Heroes of Sokoban and Mirror Isles with the one big multiscreen level of Promesst.
>>728784192Jon Blow is a fucking meme, you turdnugget. All his games are derivative and have been done better by other people.
>>728784650>Intermeshing 4 games' mechanics together is no small featDROD games have enough "mechanics" (i.e. different building blocks) to power like 20 modern puzzlers.4 is not an impressive number at all, even Portal 2 have more elements to it. Pure Sokoban is trash, 4 "mechanics" is like mere 3 more possibilities above it.Milking one mechanic dry, like in Steven Sausage Slop, doesn't make for a very compelling game. This meme minimalism in game design is, in fact, mere lack of imagination, of creativity.
>>728760883yes I am ready to ignore this product
I'm even more excited that an open source engine used for this game will be released after it comes out. I'd like to make a 3d sokoban game in a similar fashion.
>>728788515I don't think it'll anything close to popular. JAI's syntax is hard to read.
>>728789945It can't be more difficult than Rust which I already know and use.
>>728787706>All his games are derivative and have been done better by other people.>BraidWho did Braid better?>The WitnessI'm guessing that you mean The Looker. While it is a good game and a great parody, and it also proves that Blow didn't actually need to make a whole ass engine for it, The Witness is still a lot better simply due to being bigger and more refined.
>>728790207>Who did Braid better?Chronobot (Flash game)InductionAchron (well, it's not a puzzle, but have to be mentioned)Even aforementioned DROD have time travel as a puzzle element.
>>728787764I highly doubt he doesn't have mechanics of his own to bring to the table cheif
What I'm scared of is that puzzle games literally can never do better than Baba Is You and we already peaked with it.
>>728760883I'm still waiting for the first Blow Kino when did that happen?
>>728783507He went out of his way to implement an undo/redo buffer that supports going back billions of steps by taking gamestate snapshots on multiple different scale magnitudes because some overworld meta puzzle requires that
>>728794072So, basically DROD save system>>728793256Judging by Witness, he is more than okay to settle for bland shit.
>>7287935182008
>>728782985> every set of puzzles was gonna be some "you gotta look at a glare or reflection at a specific angle to get spoonfed the solution and this is the only way to solve it"Only one set of puzzles is like that (the sun temple), out of 11, and yes it’s the worst one. Most of the panel puzzles are purely logical and have nothing to do with perspective. You wrote off the game too quickly and are talking out of your ass.
>>728781928Hmm yes true especially as there was no gameplay reason to have an easily manipulated variable such as number of lives
>>728787764tard
>>728797054I understand why there is no undo in Void Stranger, I just don't care. Sokoban without undo is lame.
>>728763912Of all the gimmicks, the Wizard's is the most annoying to manage.
>>728774169High detail for a block pushing game is a really bad decision.
>>728763912So which one of these games are good for people who like to drink beer and get drunk or smoke weed and get high or just be getting all fucked up?
>>728767729>s o y boy in the big 25Tragic.
It looks like the overworld (at least how it was in the trailer) loops around. I counted and this map is 10 puzzles wide and 12 puzzles tall, total of 120, less than 10% of the advertised 1400 puzzles.
>>728801326I also look at a single screenshot of a game and determine that if it's not on-screen, it's not in the game.
>>728801906What do you mean?
>>728801972You can't imagine there being more outside of this single screenshot? You can even see that the edge ones are cut off and it extends past the borders of the image.
>>728802136Oh, I wasn't doomposting. I was just analyzing the map we saw in the trailer. I wasn't implying that there is less than 10% of the promised puzzles, but that is area is less than 10% of the game.
>>728760883I'm afraid that I might enjoy it for the wrong reasons, which would really upset the creator
>>728799124Never mind, the Bard is worse.
>>728800584>actually it's the CURRENT YEAR, so S O Y is good now!
>>728776863At this point I'm convinced jon is from a rich family and funding doesn't even matter, look at how long this game took to make. There's no way sales from the witness and braid have been covering these millions in production costs.
>>728760883I can't wait.
>>728801326that's only the overworld map, there's plenty of puzzles who only happen indoors, and I'm sure there will be tons of teleporters to other puzzles
>>728802663what does he do? I got filtered by the wizard
>>728803470In a 5x5 area around him, everything movable moves along with him. Crates, monsters, and other heroes. And after that, there is the Druid who can turn walls into pushable crates, and vice versa.
Can't wait to see what Soulja Boy thinks
>>728803953if you tweet "soulja boy owns u bitch" at him you can literally ruin his day
aint no point to the game
>>728762441the witness looks great
>>728803841somehow that sounds less annoying than the wizard, teleport on line of sight does too much damage for its own good, especially when you're trying to push buttons and not just traverse the room.
I'm going to play it solely so I can more easily understand the source code later.
>>728765443>first two postsI agree 100%>politicsYaaaaaaaawn
>>728804761I think it's fair to can Order of the Sinking Star a Jon Blow game, just like people call Death Stranding a Hideo Kojima game.
Anyone who fears a white man's ego and/or opinionation is a leftist bitch.>>728765443Like this faggot. Every post here is worse than the last. I LOVE seeing my fellow man flex his ego as long as he has the intrigue to back it up.The left HATES it when a person is their own biggest fan. Whereas I, and Egoist on principle, approve.>Trump is authoritarianMore than a Libertarian like me sure, but an order of magnitude less than the left, obviously. Cracks me up every time I hear this drivel. Shut the fuck up socialist pussies.
>https://steamcommunity.com/app/499170/discussions/0/685240084414506337/>https://steamcommunity.com/app/499170/discussions/0/685240084414427535/oh wowthe game is getting trolled on steam and it's not even out yet
If it ranks under or equal to Paquerette Down the Bunburrows I'll consider this game a resounding success.And I have nothing but hope for what best boy can do.Blow is the type of man to look at Baba Is You and SSR and say "No *I* want to be the best."God speed you prickly doofus.
>>728803841This is just silly.
>>728806143That first link is just obnoxious morons of both the left and right shitflinging at each other.The second has him being defended as, no, he's 200% not the sort of person to permit AI.A couple faggots saying mindless shit is not a "troll"And every comment section under the sun has at least 1 guy being an idiot. What is the purpose of even telling us? Lmao did you make one of those threads?
>>728803953>>728804142>>728804264Concern with niggers, rap niggers especially, rots the soul and impugns on your character.Be a proper man, not a goblin.
>>728806879no, check the other threadsthe only valid critique was that the voice acting and writing sucksthe rest is accusations about stolen ideas, literal stolen puzzles, and other political crap
>>728806879>he's 200% not the sort of person to permit AI.https://comicbook.com/gaming/feature/jonathan-blows-ambitious-new-puzzle-game-is-500-hours-long-and-it-looks-fantastic-preview/
>>728807102>the only valid critique was that the voice acting and writing sucksFair, but I'll reserve judgement until launch. I'm not inclined to care too much about story in sokoban. Though it's obviously ideal if every element in the final product is perfect.
>>728807270AI for drafting? Completey permissable. I meant the generative kind specifically. This post in what I would expect from Blow.AI is not bad *inherently* but in the secondhandedness it imparts upon the people who use it poorly.
>>728807102Thekla's producer said on the game's Discord server that the voice over was just for the trailer (another blunder that will hurt the sales).
>>728807565I agree. I was giving information, not a counterargument.
>>728807868>I'm sure yall know that already?Rank incompetence, why the fuck would one know that? From reading your mind? Blow should give his guy both barrels.
>>728807048I think you dont know their history
>>728807979Ah I see. With the idiocy that infests this place you can't blame me for assuming the worst.
>>728760883It's just a sokoban.
>>728808195Who's?
>>728808246When it concerns my bar none favorite genre thats like saying a dish is "just" a Beef Wellington.
>>728807868>put shitty thing in the trailer of all things>"i'm sure yall know that already"that bitch is a gigantic retard, trailers used to have a higher quality than the base game, it can even lie to look better, treating it like some sort of early access is the biggest blunder you can do.Jon already said that he was rushed to do that trailers and had multiple failed attempts with different publishers, which is a way better and less condescending respond to anything being bad in the trailer, way better than that cunt.
>>728765947baba is a demonic game
>>728783645>he just combined halo with mario and pokemon and a bit of GTR>that it?
>>728808465As someone who also loves sokobans too and is attempting to make one, could you tell me things you like and look for in sokobans and thing that put you off?
will this game be on consoles too?
>>728765947i think a lot of games are easier than baba by default
>>728809809-Continual introduction of novel and/or surprising applications of mechanics already presented-Having many mechanics in the first place-Hiding what is possible in plain sight, obscured by knowledge of the facts you learn later-Meta inter-level/overworld puzzles by the late game-Devilish solutions. It's generally best to have 1 intended solution. A puzzle solvable in 10 ways is no puzzle at all. Alt solutions are fine though-Despite what idiots who don't understand the genre will tell you: DO tend towards patching out unintended solutions people discover. Unless on the rare occasion that unintended is still baller
>>728813009Noted, thank you anon!
>>728761194>we are gettng baba clonesHow very bizarre, but neat.Or is this just a mod?
>>728808329Soulja boy and Blow. Blow got publicly asshurt at him because Soulja boy just called it a "shit game wit no gameplay mayne" or whatever dumb nigger shit he had to say
>>728813425think that's a mod (or user level)
>>728813425I've been neglecting Baba mods for the longest time but Aliensrock (who is essentially my puzzle game news feed) called Nimi's Garden "the closest to Baba Is You 2 we'll ever get"That piqued my interest.It's been absolutely delightful.>>728813009Note that I don't think #3 is always possible/advisable depending on the way your game is designed. Baba for example is not a game that does it, because it can't
>>728766723Because no one person of any race is representative of that entire race, and pretending that they are makes you the subhuman, you dumb faggot. If you can't understand that then you need not listen, you're too emotionally involved in whatever beliefs your algorithms have goaded you into for me to consider you a human worth being spoken to any further.
>>728761204>The downside is that the graphical style is pretty ugly (as it was in Braid in my opinion).this is the level of retard who hates on Blow
is this pc only?
>>728765558>Divide and conquer, demoralizeI mean a simple political disagreement is one thing, but fundamentally disagreeing on whether or not you want your country to be ran by a authoritarian vs being a liberal democracy is another. I'd agree that being annoying over the former is retarded, but I can see why you'd maybe grow to fundamentally dislike someone with the opinion of the latter.I swear to god though if some faggot replies to tell me "HEH YOU CALL ANYONE A FASCIST" kill yourself, I don't care if you faggots are fascists, you can be fascist, I'm just stating that there's at least a difference there. If you niggas like Hitler and shit that's fine, I really don't care, but obviously it's going to ruffle some feathers.
>>728760883Quite literally the single least deserved ego in gaming/coding.The guy is a total fart huffing tool and I don't know why he's ever been given an ounce of respect ever. He made a game thats just a shitty mario clone with NES rewind built into it as a gimmick.
>>728815274Ok then it's not "all blacks must hang" but "all street goblin rap culture blacks must hang"EZ.
>>728813425>>728814131Very cool. It has right-angle and normal+right-angle [IS] variants
>>728783401>in a market full of puzzle games that are better than Braid or anything else he's ever releasedsuch as? name 5 puzzle games as polished and as well crafted as the witness or braid
>>728815639you can literally describe ANY game in this nihilistic gay style.just admit it: your fee-fees get hurt when great people honestly admit to being great
>>728776863I just hope he'll Blow out his brainsAll the faggotry surrounding The Witness would be enough to justify that outcome
>>728815640You speak like you spend any amount of time in livestream chatrooms meaning you must hang as well, thank you
>>728815745Coming from a 200% Blow fan: his games are not even close to the best of the puzzle genre. He has 8 (Braid) and 9 (Witness) out of tens. No 10/10sI'm hoping this game is going to change that
>>728815983give me 3 (three) 10/10 and we'll see if your views are even worth the screen space your posts are taking up
>>728815745>>728815983Can someone tell me what puzzle games are actually good? Its difficult to tell what actually has value since, for every puzzle game it seems, there is a staunch group of people who call it shit and suggest that an alternative which itself has a staunch group of people that say its actually shit and ripping off some other game and then they suggest you go play a game on a piece of paper It's pretty obnoxious, can I just get a tier list or some shit of games that are actually good that even most people would have to agree there are worthwhile puzzles in?
>>728767729>>728802749I've never met a man that used this term that wasn't a little bitch. It's such an effeminate, life-on-the-internet insult.
>>728815928For one "EZ"? That doesn't qualify you to make that judgement. What if I chose the term for it's pithiness and snark?I can't for that matter, spend any time on twitch. The only twitch I ever consume is clips that saunter into my recommended.I can't imagine living life so secondhandedly as to ever to try to catch a person streaming.
>>728816060Baba Is YouStephen's Sausage RollPaquerette Down the BunburrowsEasiest assignment of my life
>>728816413>Stephen's Sausage Rollugliest game on the planet, so cant be 10/10
>>728816413>Paquerette Down the BunburrowsWishlisted. Fucking love this graphics style. And I didn't have anything below 16 bit as a kid
>>728816106this is what the greatest puzzle game looks like for reference
>>728816730>another 512 byte autism bait
>>728816106Baba Is YouStephen's Sausage Roll>>>Power gap<<<Paquerette Down the BunburrowsPatrick's ParaboxCan of Wormholes>>Power gap<<FezBonfire PeaksIsles of Sea and SkyOpus MagnumInfinifactoryAntichamberCosmic Express>>>Power gap<<<FilamentVoid Stranger (many many other people would rank this much higher than I)A Monster's ExpeditionSnakebirdEnglish Country TuneTrigaLeap Year>>>Shit<<<Portal 1/2, and other normie friendly braindead ""puzzle"" games/walking simulatorsI have many others on my wishlist I haven't gotten to. Here are some I'm almost positive are good from their reputation:Blue PrinceReturn of the Obran DinFull BoreDROD: Gunthro and the Epic BlunderA Good Snowman is Hard to Build
>>728761194That fucking level, man.I don't even know where to begin with it.
Hey guys I have a very interesting topic for you:This game. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1528120/ComPressure/This is a game where I'm 50/50 on it being bad or I'm just too dumb for it. Actually thats a lie it's more like 30/70See it's a Zach-like, and I'm quite certain it's literally the hardest of all Zach-likes. I can NOT for the life of me wrap my head around this game.I get the strong impression there is a Baba level puzzle game somewhere in here, but obscured behind how poorly it's explained to the player. I made this >>728817761 list so I don't consider myself dumb. But I'm not quite smart enough for Compressure.
>>728817761parabox and wormholes are not nearly that good id say parabox is about as easy as the portal games and it's ridiculous to call them shit just because they actually care about presentationalso you havent played any of the good zachtronics games
>>728818516nigger you've played the two easiest zachtronics games what do you know about difficulty?
>>728817761This list reads like absolutely megabait.Fuck you.
>>728818413I was right with you right until I had my little epiphany. It's SO satisfying to solve. This is my favorite puzzle in the game so far. Want a hint? I'm a skilled hint crafter.We can start with what you do think about the game.
>>728818709perfect example of >>728816106new rule is you're a mega faggot if you just blankly call someones list "bait" without actually stating any problems with it, until then you're assumed to suck dick on the daily and only play the lowest tier of games, such as madden and 2K.
blue prince got nominated for a tga award so I presume people still like puzzle games in 2025
>>728799817there's very few high fidelity puzzle games, while there's thousands of low fi ones at all quality levels. if anything they're targeting a gap in the market. if the requirements are reasonable it's not a bad move at all.additionally half the point of the game is building the engine, which obviously needs advanced capabilities
>>728818626I've played ALL the Zachtronics games. I suppose I meant to just put a "Zachtronics in general" entryOpus and Infinifactory just tickle me in cool factor. Yes I know they're the easiest.
>>728818947did you beat kelp harvesting robot and prime number factoriser?
>>728818626Not him and you better give us a 100% screenie of Compressure or you can shut the fuck up right this instant.
>>728761194I think I beat this one but not sure they have a lot of similar looking ones
>>728816730i'm sorry but IntelliJ is much better than this
>>728817761do you ever just look up the solution? whats the longest time you havent been able to solve some puzzle?
>>728804142being reminded that niggers exist would ruin anyone's day
>>728819038Doesn't ring a bell. I've only beat the easiest Zachtronics games so far.
>>728819326so how would you know what the hardest zach-like is?
>>728816265>or one "EZ"? That doesn't qualify you to make that judgement.Oh so we CAN'T judge people off of the way they speak or the words they use? You're telling me that doing an action once that I associate with certain behavior (that is commonly associated with that behavior) isn't enough of a standard to associate you with any specific group? That I can't easily predict your background based on your choice to use the term? Wow. This is big. I'm just hearing this
>>728819192I did for Further Fields in Baba Is You and am still mad at myself for it. Never did it again.I had a bum day that day and just wouldn't consider that the idea was to kill yourself TEMPORARILY which just would not occur to me. I went on to beat much harder puzzles without looking it up. Nearly tore my hair out for some puzzles in Meta but it's there I discovered the sheer power of taking a break/sleeping on it/thinking in the showerBased shower-chan sees me through every time.>>728819435Well in full-context I suppose I don't. I can wrap my head around them all though, Compressure presented to me a never before seen conundrum on that front.
>>728819862Thanks for confirming "EZ" really stuck in your craw that bad lolNot off such a small sample size we can't.EZ was really just a more playful or whimsical spelling, get over yourself fag>That I can't easily predict your backgroundPeople vastly overestimating their powers of "prediction" is the hallmark of a pseud. Or the type to have enjoyed Alex Jones back in the day as he would wholesale just make shit up he thought was quarterway plausible.
>>728818812Okay.>Text list>No actual tierings, just vibes-tiers>Putting Sausage Roll that high while English Country Tune that low>Fez that high with no Witness>Void Stranger that low>Shitting on "easy" puzzle games because they're "braindead"Dickhead.And just to tack on a bit more before you whine, go play:>The demo for He Who Watches>Case of the Golden Idol (Rise too)>20 Small Mazes (free)>Strange Jigsaws>Lorelei & the Laser Eyes>Escape from Mutation Station>Leaf's Odyssey>World of Goo 1 & 2And one giga-autism entry:>Tactical Nexus (base game's free nowadays)
>>728820446>dickheadNigger I just wanted you to talk about fucking videogames instead of vaguely complaining about someones list without actually stating why. I'll just play the games you consider shit when you do that because you seem annoying without any further context.Now, since you replied like a real fucking human being, I can at least take a look at the games you think are good. Stop being such a fucking faggot about shit.
>>728820615>Now, since you replied like a real fucking human beingno he replied like a seething sperg
>>728817761Cool list except Snakebird is the single best puzzle-game ever created
>>728820664Real human being in the sense that they at least engaged in the subject, the seething autistic sperg part matters less to me since it's the eternal state of most people here.
What an absolute boring game. Puzzle games suck.
>>728820446>>World of Goo 1 & 2Are these games any better played on Switch / Wii with motion controls? As in, is using motion controls supposed to be a part of the experience (mouse controls are different since there is less struggle, as it's a lot easier to hold your cursor in one position), or is it fine to play on mouse? Autistic question, I know.
>>728820615>>728820664>>728820747>>728820446>>728820776youll niggaz talkin shit lets see wats hapn when ima pop dat shit yall bitchez aint shit to me senpai
>>728817761antichamber and fez are in the same tier as>Portal 1/2, and other normie friendly braindead ""puzzle"" games/walking simulators
>>728820615>Stop being such a fucking faggot about shitOkay.Have fun.
>>728820906Either one's fine, I prefer M&K, but there's nothing wrong with motion inputs.I have not played WoG2 on Switch, only WoG1 on OG Wii.
>>728820446No him btw and:>Fez that high with no WitnessOoops forgot. Put that above Antichamber>Escape from Mutation StationThat's the only one not on my wishlist. Thanks, added. Heres some others on my wishlist under the puzzle tag I'm rather excited for. I have so many it makes my head spin. These are near the top (OotSS and Obran Din are above them)
>>728821010Thanks :) Escape from Mutation Station looks pretty cool, as does Leaf's Odyssey. I'll check these games out for sure, the others probably a bit more dependent on how these two are. I appreciate it anon.
>>728821121Hey, that's a pretty good list. Only outlier is Slayway Camp, but I wouldn't call that one bad either.
Is there any way to export a wishlist as an image, but only for games of one tag?
>>728821478best i found is filtering by tag and then zooming out in a browser
>>728820446What's your problem with SSR? I think it's a significant step up from English Country Tune, which I felt relied too heavily on introducing new gimmicks instead of focusing on its core mechanics.
>>728822223I just don't consider it "one of the best in the genre." While its mechanics do emerge organically through play and are damn interesting, the difficulty curve is ball-busting and Tower of Sausage remains one of my biggest mind-fuck moments in puzzle games. Not because it's particularly difficult, but because it's just so far out there.
>Games I've played just a little ofBilly BumBum a cheeky puzzlerCampfire CookingDungeon and PuzzlesElecheadA Good Snowman is Hard to BuildHexahedraIs this Seat TakenManifold GardenMimic LogicMolek-SyntezPipe Push ParadisePuddle KnightsRailboundSokobondSolas 128The Talos PrincipleThat Makes Sense>Games bought and downloaded, but haven't playedBlue PrinceThe Electrifying IncidentFull BoreGentoo RescueGravitasHexologicHiding SpotKaisen a Factory StoryMagicubeMeet me at NoonQubeRealMyst Materpiece EditionRecursedRoom to GrowSquishcraftTaijiToki Tori 2+The Turning TestThe Talos Principle 2UFO 50Youropa>Error: Too many linesP 1/2
>>728821478If you're on firefox press ctrl+shift+m. You can set it to any resolution then just press the screenshot button.
>>728823480cool didnt know firefox had this feature
>>728823480Baller. Let me do that. (lol it limited me to typing in "9999" but higher numbers can be achieved by manually stretching the viewport. 1038x15450)>>728823417P 2/2>8.5 MBhttps://files.catbox.moe/riwjr0.png
>>728823480>Bat to the HeavensLet me give you a piece of advice: don't play this on keyboard. I did until I got to Basin 21 and it filtered me. I then learned that this is one of those rare games where Controller is objectively superior for it, like Outer WIlds.I'm gonna restart the game with controller one of these days.Hardest game on my whole library.
is game fun?
>>728825729No one knows yet dumbfuck. If it's as good or better than the Witness: yes.
>>728825594>Hardest game on my whole library.That is absolutely the fucking truth. As a guy who loves this game take pic related to heart (except the thumbs down). This game will fucking bully you.Buyer beware.
>>728825594i pirated it once and got completely filtered 5 minutes incan you elaborate on why it's better with controller
>>728827032I was told the operation of [spoiler mechanic] can't be executed as simply and reactively on keyboard. I was told here on /v/ so I forget the exact phrasing. But he's right.
>>728827032>>728827546found it https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/719854909/#q719857887
^spoilers btw. Beware
This fucking clue man. I beat the level but this fucking clue solution eludes me.
>>728815000>Aliensrock (who is essentially my puzzle game news feed)For me it's Icely Puzzles
See it's things like this why Baba will probably never be outdone for at least another decade, possibly two.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob8WIaarSj0It's just such a cool damn game.
>>728828821This one's clue is pretty mean.You're in a fucked up Prison situation if I remember right.
>>728829525I won't read that spoiler so I guess I'll do the clue solution last. Which I sometimes have to do.I'll move on to this level
>>728829842Good luck, lad. This one's not too tough and has a satisfying finish.
>>728766647>>728815274Your tranny levels are showing, friend.
My most recent puzzle game pickup is Mystery of the Malign, an old-school styled puzzle exploration game.It's fairly slow and builds up tension and intrigue nicely. Not super long, but I am slow in general. About 2/3 done at 8 hours.
Why did this thread end up so fire?
>>728828821>pulls>stops>sinks
Well... I understand WHY Nimi has Nimi to start
>>728830297People here actually give a shit unlike an average thread and the obvious shitposts are being ignored.>>728830438Do you wanna know?Cause I can explain that room, it's one of the less fucky one in Nimi's Garden.More surprised you didn't point out UNSTACK or CLUE.
>>728760883how much capital did he blow on the game award trailer i wonder
>>728830764Oh I understand, I'm just surprised by the words.
>>728829954Oh yeah. That was ezSins absolved, only sometimes though
>me when left-winger Skullshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dph43fjV0Q
>>728827546>on keyboard DURR *on controller
>>728831542wait so that mechanic is better on keyboard?
>>728815638>I'm just stating that there's at least a difference there.There's a difference, or there would be if that scenario was in any way relevant here.The issue is that this guy is a fucking retard who doesn't know what he's talking about, therefore he's basing the entire reason they "can't" work together on a false premise. >I swear to god though if some faggot replies to tell me "HEH YOU CALL ANYONE A FASCIST" kill yourselfSee, you're trying to preemptively dismiss this, but you literally just end up doing the exact thing you tried to ridicule as a hyperbole. This somehow went from Blow saying he likes Trump to "yeah yeah you guys love Hitler". You are not a serious person.
>>728831705No thats what my statement implied before. Now it's correct. Controller better.
>>728832103i think you got it right the first time lol
>>728832192...I need sleep
>>728832278gn pookie
please get my joke, thats the cleverest joke I ever told
>>728832559bro.... is this you >>728830824?
>>728832832Nope its the video one
>>728834030sorry i dont get it
>>728834119You have to know the level I beat
What do you MEAN? This level is IMPOSSIBLE
>>728834210This level is HELL, but it is doable.You'd be surprised what you can do with like.. 6 Lizards.
God I love Super Puzzled Cat guys, I've been shilling it ever since I was shilled in turn.Easily best puzzle game of 2025 (sorry Blue Prince, I liked you too).
>>728816730based zachfag
>>728830297/v/ is puzzlepilled
>>728834363Just solved it so I read the spoiler... my solution didn't have anything to do with 6 Lizards. I think your solution might have been an unintended one. Cause mine feels intended.
>>728835324I actually forgot how I solved that one, so you're good. :^)GL with the Clue.
I have a massive backlog of block pushy sokoban type things, but any unique stuff to play that's on the winter sale? favourite stuff I played in the last year was void stranger, leap year and squishcraft. How's lorelei and the laser eyes?
>>728835507You have to make [Barrel object] IS AUTO then put PUSH on top of that barrel. Then form BARREL MELTS TEXT to make the barrel kill PUSH. Then you almost-form both BARREL WRITE LIZARD and TEXT IS KARMA. Complete the left sentence then the right and you have the lizard just a few steps out of the Skull.Fucking text can inherit badboyhood with WRITE. Goddamn that's weird
>>728836048Here you go. My owned Sokoban list on discountHere is "Puzzle" instead instead of "Sokoban": https://files.catbox.moe/96499v.png
>>728763759>I have to agree with this pretentious fuckwit and fellate his shitty game because he's white too/pol/tards are the tendies of real life.
>>728837148No. You just have to defend him once beset upon from a nog
>>728815928EZ is old lingo troon zoomer
>>728817761>Baba Is You>Stephen's Sausage RollStephen's shits on baba you pleb don't put them in the same tier lmfao
>>728837329Stephen's is truly well put together but Baba is limitless. Baba is so much more unique in concept and modular. No one makes SSR levels.It's best to think of Baba and SSR as two sides of the same top tier coin.
>>728760883I fucking hate this pretentious retard but i'd be lying if i said the game doesn't look fun. so i'll probably pirate it or buy it at 95% off after it flops
>>728836163>make [Barrel object] IS AUTO then put PUSH on top of that barrel. Then form BARREL MELTS TEXT to make the barrel kill PUSH. Then you almost-form both BARREL WRITE LIZARD and TEXT IS KARMA. Complete the left sentence then the right and you have the lizard just a few steps out of the Skull. Fucking text can inherit badboyhood with WRITE. Goddamn that's weirdLmao Baba Is You conversations always sound like schizobabble to the uninitated.
>>728832093If you support Trump at this point, it is likely because you want him to be an authoritarian. The issue is that I don't even fucking care if that's your position, Republicans are just too fucking scared because they're absolute pussies to admit that, and it's so fucking obnoxious. I'm not saying every Republican loves Hitler, I am saying that if you're supporting someone that's breaking every U.S. check on power, trying to conceal as much power into the executive power as possible (issuing far more E.O.'s than any previous President and passing it off as "policy", issuing far more pardons than any President in history), installing loyalists across every branch of government and trying to install them into what are supposed to be independent agencies (look at the federal reserve), threatening independent agencies their funding if they don't do EXACTLY what you want, then you're supporting someone who's an authoritarian. And that's fine. If that's what you want because you hate the trannys and the kikes, fine, but fucking christ, grow some balls and own up to it.
>>728838916>it is likely becauseNot him and why is it "likely because"?
>>728838975Read the rest of the post and find out retard.
VIDEO GAMES people
>>728839486Alas, people started biting, which leads to more showing up.The thread is not yet lost, but it is likely to fall off into shitsville more and more now.
Banger:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl6JiKbJyeM
i know this isnt a popular opinion with puzzle game players but i hope blow's game has a compelling storyvoid stranger's story, while not amazing, still really elevated the game for me and now it's one of my favourite games ever
I respect the effort but I just wish it was for a genre that wasn't sokobon. I've never liked them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWqnz-7iQbY
>>728765294>Normies will love itThe depths of autists to not understand social cues is truly an infinite abyss
>>728765294I will miss the philosophy quotes. Midwits acted like they were too good for it, but really, they wanted the samey schlock storytelling they have seen a million times before. God forbid anyone do anything different.
>>728760883>>728842250The voice acting in the trailer was terrible btw.
>>728787764what do you not understand about 1500 levels
>>728841414Same desu. I loved the Witness.
>>728810429Not initially.
>>728817761>Stephen's Sausage RollPuzzles too hard + mechanics too simple = boring game.>Patrick's ParaboxNow this is the shit. Patrick actually helped make Order of the Sinking Star, so things are looking good.>AntichamberAlso great. Where would you put Manifold Garden?
>>728843215nta, manifold garden was cool conceptually and graphically but completely bereft of challenge.
>>728817761>English Country TuneThis game filtered me. I am a puzzlelet. My puzzle-fu is weak.
>>728823121I quit after solving Cold Frustration. There are some really cool moments where you're convinced its unsolvable from the first second but then you figure it out and it's magical but most of the solutions are working backwards and figuring out what you can't do, once you rule those out it kinda solves itself because all the possibilities are so tightly packed it gets cumbersome. Maybe if you're smart you can actually think through the solutions like you would in other puzzle games.
>>728844123I remember Cold Frustration. Devious level.
>>728843831Which others have you played?
>>728840340I'm about halfway through and he just said there are multiple endings. And that there are no "bad" endings bullshit. Nice.
>>728844441Yes, this was also stated in some interview. The easiest ending is 4 "stars", and the hardest is 10. Stars are associated with golden room, which you can see on the map in the trailer >>728801326.
>>728761204If this were made by anybody else, it would, at most, have 100 Steam user reviews and you wouldn't give a fuck about it.
>>728843831It's not even hard wtf
>>728799980If you're black; none.
>>728845091no i think the game looks visually fantastic i would go as far as to say it's the main selling point
i just realised why 4chan has been kinda decent today... new captcha prevents phonefaggots from posting
>>728847437I like the subtle gridlines in the water. Good to see they are there for clarity on both water and land.
>>728847437yea this looks pretty nice fr
So this is the power of Jai...
>>728849323the banner art does look fucking awfulim guessing he rushed it because of the publisher
>>728849862What do you think would be better? It shows the 4 worlds intersecting, the protagonist, and the symbols of the 4 worlds overlapping.
>>728849862apparently geoff gave him 2 months notice, and from the sound of it (and the state of the final trailer), blow spent atleast half that working with shitty marketing teams, and had to have his artists touch up specific areas so he could make a good old fashioned smoke and mirrors trailer (hence the fog on all the unfinished areas)
>>728850039A more textured painterly style, like a less cartoony Braid. That style looks too smooth and clean to me.
>>728850148I see nothing the contradicts the ingame style
>>728850049i can already hear him whining about how he's never going to use a publisher again after it releases
>>728760883I will be there for Blow's nuclear melydown when the game spectacularly flops.
>>728850512he apparently signed really recently with them to secure final funding to finish it.hopefully this time he actually starts pumping out games in sane dev cycles so he won't have to risk burning all his cash again
>>728816106before the block pushing autism thread dies, I want to shill my recent obsession: https://store.steampowered.com/app/2662590/UltraNothing/messy bloshpush game that ends up being really tight once you figure out meta knowledge and what the overarching goal is
>>728850651He says that he will.
>>728851149keep seeing this, is there whacky meta stuff or just straightforward blockpush? cheap enough to grab for the hell of it
>>728852628He's aluded to endings that are much harder than others so I expect so
>>728850593https://youtu.be/RY0WclQU7x4
>>728763937lul
>>728847437some anons look at this and say "unity asset flip" or "2013 looking mobile ahh slop"
>>728796417>Only one set of puzzles is like thatno I don't mean specifically that they're all angle perspective tricks. That was just an example. There's also "which branch was the apple on" and "you gotta look through the colored glass" or "just trace the items on the horizon, bro" or "a bird is literally singing the solution to you, aren't I a genius?"Just that over half the game is finding arbitrary shit in the environment that automatically solves the puzzle for you.it's still a fucking scavenger hunt and you can eat my ass.Scavenger hunts are NOT puzzles just like you'd never call Curse of Monkey Island a fucking puzzle game either.
>>728817761Blue Prince is dogshit. And why the fuck do you rank Antichamber so high? It's a Portal-tier game.
>>728760883it will be fun.I like puzzle games.
>>728763759The part where makes Mario in a suit go woop and go in and out of the pit while saying it ain't go no point is the key point of that video. I've played a few of those gimmick games where you can rewind your actions and they're always worse off for having them.
>>728802839i believe he's spent all the witness money and is now in debtiirc he was hoping the braid reissue would help with the cash flow, but i'm pretty sure it's ended up costing him moneyi guess this is what you get for being incredibly unproductive
>>728859413There is literally no Braid without rewind. The entire game is wholly based around time fuckery.
>>728859413Do you consider the portal gun in Portal to be a gimmick?
>>728763912I wonder of the mirror duplication mechanic will be used.
>>728847437It looks pretty nice but I hate the black outlines on characters. Why do so many games do this?
>>728763912the concept of mashing together a bunch of sokobans is also a bit common in the puzzlescript scenethe most notable one is enigmash by jack lance, who was a young autistic wizard hired by jb as a level designer for this but he killed himselfbut in enigmash its more linear
>>728861030Cool. I can see what inspired the world boundary graphics.
>>728838916traditionalist or conservative cultural beliefs do not inherently mean authoritarian.There were plenty of historical societies (Roman Republic for example) that were very steeped in tradition and yet were not outright authoritarian in nature.You are only speaking from the Twitter politics grifter paradigm.I don't necessarily "support Trump" but do I think Harris with her Indian ancestry would have put restrictions on H1B visas? Hell no. So there can actually be nuance to this.
>>728816202if its a life-on-the-internet insult, how would you meet the men who use this insult to begin with?you have a double digit IQ
>>728841235yup. Devs should try to make all elements good.if the game looks like shit => I don't wanna play it.If it has good plot => it's a great bonus I'll enjoy
>>728781402True good lesson to apply to literally everything in life.If you jump through enough hoops, yes women are biologically, spiritually, and mentally the exact same as men even though we clearly evolved as a sexual species where both sexes have different functions.
>>728816106Slitherlink for the DS
>>728847437you gotta remember most people here are insecure fucktards who will hate anybody with significant achievements who honestly talks about them. And they will go to any lengths of delusion to create a schizo reality where the guy sucks. Blow is the Mike Israetel of v.
>>728861258see in that screencap, if i remember correctly, when you are in the red/pink areas it's actually more like a 2D sidescroller instead of top down four way movement, so you can go left and right and jump one block only but you're bound by gravity so you fall vertically and getting to the rock is trickyand all the different areas are mashed together in messy ways instead of the neat 4 areas in the new game, but im sure there will be some crazy meta twists to break formula and justify the 1500 puzzles numbers, because i doubt it will be like 350 puzzles out of only 4 main mechanicsdid he show any crazy shit on his streams? i wonder if he spoiled all the end game stuff
>>728841235>void stranger's story, while not amazing, still really elevated the gameI dropped it half because of the story.
>>728861287>traditionalist or conservative cultural beliefs do not inherently mean authoritarian.no offense I'm just jumping in on this onebut you're absolutely moving the goalposts here.we're well beyond championing "traditional conservative cultural beliefs" that anon already listed all the authoritarians things already happening right now, none of them have anything to do with traditionalism or conservative culture. It's strictly control. You mean to tell me there was NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON who was conservative in the FBI to take it over? It had to be a podcaster yes man with 0 experience in criminal justice?>I don't necessarily "support Trump" but do I think Harris with her Indian ancestry would have put restrictions on H1B visas? Hell no.>So there can actually be nuance to this.so your nuanced take is that Trump didn't either put restrictions on H1B either, BUT he's also doing hundreds of questionably legal things because no one is willing to hold him accountable?It's okay to you that he's tripled his networth on crypto since his election, pardoned the binance guy CZ who admitted to fraud, and purposely sandbagged efforts to regulate crypto? Or his son in law teaming up with Saudis to buy up everything? if you believe any of this is about culture you're being fucking scammed.
DROD is the single best puzzle game series of all time :)
>>728817761Fez is shit.Isles of Sea and Sky was really good though, gave me an itch for metroidvania-y puzzle games with an open world that nothing else has been able to scratch yet.
>>728862583anyone tried sliding hero?
>>728861663>did he show any crazy shit on his streams?
>>728864464This is just from the last stream.
>>728864551Dragon stadium level.
>>728864826Jon Blow does 20 pushups.
>>728766318Based and extreme difficulty pilled
>>728865741Rover mechanic, cross-screen object resetting/persistence. Mirroring between screens for secrets? Looks like the anon in >>728861663 was right.
>>7288659742 sided mirror with beams above world center.
Looks like there will be a whole underground map that deals with 3D puzzles. You can see a waterfall here.
Overworld areas tagged with puzzle themes.
>>728866235I'm so fucking excited :)
Outfit system, seems to give the abilities of the associated hero.
Fast travel seems to be its own area, where the world is at 1/5 scale.
I think all your Blowposting killed the thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeVK5xQAUHQWhat ever happened with this game? I was excited for it once but I just realized I completely forgot about it. I just use Aliensrocks as puzzle game news feed so I barely actually watch him (because spoilers).Is this game a puzzle game goat or is it shit?
>>728868251It was fine.Lots of puzzles, a modestly-sized world to explore, was an MMO (is no longer) and you could just run around solving puzzles for fun.
The Promise>>728868146I'm pretty much done, anyway. I don't want to go through his streams anymore.
You won't need to cycle though every character, there is a selection wheel.
Very tall level. Okay, I'm done now.
>>728868251read the steam reviews. it's broken for some (?) players (unplayable / game breaking issues) and the devs abandoned it.
>>728868385>was an MMOWhat the fuck, why?Would it warrant an appearance on my list thing from earlier in the thread?
>>728860725remove those outlines and you're playing where's waldo every time you need to swap focus
>>728868737>devs abandoned itWelp, thats settled then
>>728868146Burger here. We were just asleep bro
>>728868934>What the fuck, why?Because they wanted it to be different from other puzzle games.Then they didn't wanna actually pay for the servers anymore, so they killed it after just 8 months, pushed out a half-baked update converting it to an offline game, and fucked off.
>>728869149An MMO puzzle game is about the stupidest fucking concept I've ever heard.I'd abandon it too after the inevitable flop to be fair. That's just good business sense.
>>728869449Myst URU Online.
>>728869634First time I'm hearing about it.Was it A actually MMO and B not shit?
>>728869449This is what toxic positivity gets you in game dev. No one is allowed to say "wait, maybe we should consider we're total retards for this idea first".
>>728869849Yes and yes (if you like MYST type games).>WasIs. The servers have been up and running since 2010 or so. They existed prior to that in various forms that were killed by shitty publishers, but nowadays it isn't going anywhere.The population rarely exceeds like 8 CCU, but the community is content where it is.
>>728870090Hmm. I'll take your world for it. What psychologically happens to a players when he chews on a difficult puzzle is not something I'm inclined to think meshes with multiplayer. But I'm an antisocial who has never touched a single mmo with a ten foot pole so what do I know.
>>728849323kek
>>728808705why?
>>728871260Probably just a random nonsense post, not even bait/trolling. But if I were to try to come up with an explanation, I'd say that this has something to do with changing rules of the world.
>>728765443>erm you like Trump ergo I cannot work with youThis line of thinking doesn't work in a liberal society where you have to put your politics aside for mutual cooperation. Else it just festers cultural enclaves and tribalist power grabs which is inimical to liberalism. Trump is not so much more authoritarian that other presidents before him in this century but he is a populist and doesn't work with the established order of high political society very well.
>>728868418>Replacing balls of energy from Promesst with robotsNeat.
>>728871641Protip: Don't respond to people replying to day-old posts. 99% of the time, they're baiting for a (You).See: The post below yours for a more egregious example.
>>728872059I don't really care. If a question is interesting, I'll answer.
>>728872059I'm not baiting for a you, I literally just came into the thread and read that post. You're literally >implying
>>728850593That has never been the point of why Blow makes games anyways. Popular streamers have always trashed his games, The Witness being an example despite it being the actual best spiritual successor to Myst. They are lost in their critique because they don't know design and they don't know the history. To them, it is strictly just a product to be bought and finagle with.
>>728841235Stories in puzzle games are always hit or miss because the puzzles serve as narrative breaks that you have to then use logic rather than engaging with the theater of your mind which makes the plot flow incongruent. This applies to all games technically but puzzle games especially.
>>728868146I've been trying Quantum Odyssey ever since I discovered it in one of these threads and I think I'm just gonna refund it since it can't find any satisfaction in doing the puzzles. It honestly just feels like university homework which I think is what the devs actually meant it to be.
Footage of automated testing of puzzles. Probably better to watch this on Youtube because of the 4MB file size limit.https://youtu.be/S4WGY-Nf6Ug?t=595
>>728847437other anons already said this but i really like the presentation of the gridthey could've not gave a fuck and used a simple grid overlay but they went the extra mile and integrated into the artthe water having that shimmering for the grid is honestly such a cool touchthis type of readability is pretty cool, props to the artists on this
>>728873541The most notable thing in here is that the Priestess protects heroes from falling.
>>728874252Heroes carrying stones with goblins on them.
>>728874252Why are you spoiling everyone on a puzzle game they potentially wanna play?
>>728864464Looks like there's going to be 2 different time periods for each character. You can see an old and young version for each character and it seems the bard matches with the queen. I also notice there's a golden human figure off to the left so maybe some meta final true endgame stuff.
>>728760883>two day old thread on /v/This site is finished
>>728874443I like it when threads last for quite long. Wish we had a puzzle video game board like /vst/. There the discussions are slower than on /v/ but they're also of higher quality and less shitposting.
>>728874329Because the trailer told me fuck all, so I went on to do my own research. Most of what I posted is really basic, just a couple unrefined levels and showcasing of mechanics. Besides, this is the stuff that Blow himself was okay with showing on his streams. For when he is working on something he doesn't want to show, he hides the screen.
>>728873541Are there any other 3D block pushing puzzle games like this?
>>728760883not a fan of sokobons but ill give it a try.
>>728874443Well aren't you just a cancerous little zoomie faggot?
