TODD CONFIRMS ES VINO ETA BUT WHO CARESJUST BUY MORE COPIES OF SKYRIM
It's called "Skytree" btw
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>>728779645Will ES6 finally be the game that will kill Bethesda?
>>728779746we can only hope
and it just works
>>728779645Can't wait until it comes out in 2031.
>>728779645can't wait to see what they'll nerf this time
>>728779645After starfield, lukewarm oblivion remaster and them elevating f76 from utter shit to mediocre shit I have no hope or hype
>>728780137Right after Starfield II comes out!
anyone hoping for anything good from the company that has brought you..>fallout 4>fallout 76>shartfield>rage 2>oblivion demaster..since shitrim, is going to be massively disappointedexpect DEI garbage, terrible writing, repeatable MMO-style quests, more dumbing-down of gameplay (if that's even possible at this point) and every NPC being lolessential
>>728779645How is this news? We've know this for a while now.
>>728779645Didn't the trailer for this come out 10 years ago
>>728779645>Elder Scrolls VI instead of a Skyrim sequel.
>>728779645The player better not be named something-born, emil is such a fucking hack with starborn and space shouts
>>728779645The Elder Scrolls VI Return to Skyrim, The Director's Cut
>>728781313This. I have less than zero confidence at modern Bethesda creating anything other than pure shit.
>>728781313every NPC being what
>>728782716lurk more
>>728782716Lolessential
>>728779645>Le no remotely decent game in 14 years companyWhat kind of actual retard would even want a new Bethesda game nowadays
>>728781987E3 2018, so seven going eight.
>>728782716play skyrim more
>>728779645Did they not release a trailer for this 8 fucking years ago? The fact that it's now in full development is breaking news? What the fuck is going on over there?
>>728781313>youngest slider
>>728781423Yeah but they re-released the announcement recently!!!
Post how the game will be even further dumbed down than Skyrim.
>>728784256I don't feel like Skyrim dumbed anything down from Oblivion, from a gameplay perspective it's a lot more advanced. Sure they capped the movement speed and made the NPCs slightly less dynamic, rolled a couple of skills into one - but none of it made it feel like I was playing a dumber game than Oblivion.
>>728783881kek
>>728784256Starfield like armor system, with two slots, helmet and body.
>>728779645lemme guess, still using the old engine
beware
>>728784256Auto combat.
>>728784920after oblivion, nah, they are probably using UE5. Can't wait for you fags to clap, because 15yo creation engine bad but 30yo UE isn't
>>728783581>E3 was still a thing when TES VI was announced
>>728779645I think they've waited so long because they wanted to use AI integration with their NPCs but couldn't figure it out. Now AI is so advanced that it could tell them how to pull it off and so they did.
>>728784567>No Haggling>No spellmaking>No attributes so how you level doesn't matter at all>Speechcraft gutted>Gear doesn't breakLots of little things got sanded away with Skyrim. The two major improvements I liked were shopping was quick and alchemy was sorted nicely. Neither of which were put in Oblivin remastered :(
>>728784256We've listened to your complaints and we hear you, loud and clear.>Skills have been consolidated; every weapon uses the weapon skill, every spell uses the magic skill, and any skullduggery is governed by your stealth skill. No more having to grind a different magic skill to cast your purchased spells, no more having to respec if you find a different cool weapon. >No more having to level to gain the perks you need, perks are instead purchased from the scrolls store available from the pause menu at any time for player convenience.>We heard your complaints about the dialogue system in FO4, and decided to do something about it. Instead of three options that all say "yes", there is one option that says "absolutely yes".>The map is sixteen times bigger than Skyrim, and that means longer travel times. To alleviate this, you can now fast travel anywhere, at any time, by using a traveller's rune available from the scrolls store.>Combat can be difficult, even dangerous, or deadly. To that end, we have removed hit points. Instead the player can simply choose if they're alive or dead from the pause menu. Tell your story, your way.>Quests can be tedious, even challenging. Now, any quest objectives glow like the sun and are visible through walls. We respect your time however, so for player convenience any quest can be completed through the scrolls store menu, so you can get back to the game.>The concept of races is problematic, so we have taken the brave step of removing them. Now, with the new character creation system, the player can make their character look however they want to, no labels, no inherent differences, no body types, an industry first.It just works.
>>728785051UE5 isn't even 5 years old unc, wtf you on about?
>>728785846I'll give you spellmaking but does the rest really make it dumber? It was just busywork, tiny inconsequential puzzles to be solved and once they were they became nothing but an inconvenience.Attributes like haggling were absorbed into the perks of the skill trees so leveling did still matter.
>>728786584>Attributes like haggling were absorbed into the perks of the skill trees so leveling did still matter.Attributes were your stats like Strength and Intelligence. Skyrim leveling is just filling a bar and spending a colored bar point and a skill point. Previous leveling needed you to level skills governed by an attribute to get more points for it when you leveled up.
>>728786172>uh uh>number go up>vs number not go up
>>728787093I meant to say attributes like personality (which is directly linked to haggling) Along with all other perks unlocked via attributes are now in the skill tree.
>>728787371Gotcha. Upon reflection I'll give you that combat got a fresh coat of paint to it. For better or worse is in the eye of the beholder. Dual wielding still feels weird to me in Skyrim. But I'm still holding firm that most other systems got dumbed down. "Busywork" getting QoL'd away makes the game lose some of the charm for me.
>>728779645>ES VI NO ETAless grass mowing more english pablo
Bethesda are delusional if they think they're ever striking gold again. TES VI will be like MHW, it will get the week 1 10 million sales off of brand name alone, then it will immediately die once people realize how shit it is and won't sell another copy again, killing the brand. There won't be mods, because they want to curate and control the market to sell mods themselves. Mods carried their shit IPs post Oblivion, they just had no clue, and no competition, so they thought they could ride the wave forever, I can already see the UE store assets, AI slop, and jeet out sourcing prints all over the game, and it isn't even halfway through development, because that's what modern Bethesda is.
>>728779645I'd rather have more starfield, 2bh (like guns over swords, shrimple as.)
>>728779746If it under performs they'll just rerelease skyrim for the Neuralink 2 and they'll survive 1000 more years.
>>728788001I agree that it might have less charm because of streamlining but it ends up feeling like a more solid game as a result. Oblivion was great when playing it at a time when I had no idea how games worked, the systems were a mystery and it made the game feel much grander than it actually was. After growing an analytical brain and playing it again I started to realize how shallow and broken it all actually is, I came to appreciate the streamlining of Skyrim more as it takes away some of the jank and leaves a more focused game. Sure there comes a point where the QoL becomes too much and you just want some of that whimsical brokenness back but Skyrim struck a fine balance I feel. They can still add a lot of new features to it and bring spellmaking back.
Will it be worse or better than Redguard?
>>728781313The only actual Bethesda made games you listed were Fallout 4 and Shartfield. Retard.
>>728788001I personally think that the major skill/minor skill/attribute system was unpleasant to deal with. You had to know in advance which skills are useful and which weapon type you will use. While in Skyrim you can try things and decide on the go.
>>728787370Based retard
>>728779645Each beth game gets worse, Oblivion was already terrible and its been 20 years since then.
>>728792174Yeah you can hit a wall easily in Oblivion if you don't know what you're doing. Although I blame this mostly on infinitely scaling enemies, rather than the leveling system itself.
The only sad thing is if it bombs, they will drag the franchise down with them instead of handing it over to someone else. How they responded to New Vegas's success is a glimpse of this. Fallout and TES are being held hostage by greedy egotistical clowns LARPing as their creators when all the original talents that built the setting left a long time ago
>>728786584Nah, haggling was fun.
>>728784256Only 2 dialogue choices. Yes and Sarcastic Yes (Reddit Option).They will remove skills entirely and you just gain a level up that improves everything you do by 0.5% with a pop-up that says "Your power increased."Game will be built around a new gimmick called Sword Singing that's actually just Skyrim shouts yet again.Core aspect of the game will be base building but it will be more tedious and less functional than F4 and Starfield.The main plot will be that there was a war in Hammerfell and that's why the procedually generated landscape is empty and you need to rebuild it.They will go out of their way to make Redguards more african and less arabic, when they originally weren't african-coded at all. But they'll be super advanced and smart.
>>728779645if they haven't wasated time with shartfield, we would have gotten tes6 and fo5. with tes 7 being in the works.Fuck todd
>>728792682>handing it over to someone elseLike who?>New Vegas's successThe lowest selling 3D Fallout game, wouldn't call that a success.
>>728789751Nta but I disagree. Removing attributes is part of the reason why magic feels underpowered in late game. It takes ages to kill stuff. It also takes away build options, like a spell blade class that uses magic to increase their strength. Also, taking away attributes didn't actually streamline anything, because instead of a seperate attribute screen, the skill tree gets bloated instead.
>>728792759>Only 2 dialogue choices. Yes and Sarcastic Yes (Reddit Option).So more dialogue choices than in Skyrim?
>>728793034you can shitpost and call new vegas bad or something retarded like that but you absolutely cannot claim that new vegas was not profitablebut in any case, not like the current team at obsidian can make a new fallout on the level of NV, it's not possible without the talent
>>728793180No, that's all you get per NPC, no extra dialogue where you can ask questions.NPCs will just monologue at you and then you can say Yes or Yes.
>>728781313>>728784256If they gut mod support it will die as quickly as Saarfield. Mods are the only reason Skyrim is still played and is genuinely good. Oblivion is shit even with mods and Morrowind mods are mostly optional compared to the other two.
>>728793180Skyrim had Yes, Reddit and No.
>>728793301I never said NV was bad, I prefer it over F3. I am just looking at it from an objective point of view. It's the lowest selling 3D Fallout game, why did people expect Zenimax/Bethesda Softworks to start handing out the IP to different studios? And no doubt New Vegas made money, considering how much of the game was already prepared for them. Still, who exactly would you hand the TES and Fallout license to? Arkane is stuck making that Blade game, ID Tech sucks for open-world games apparently, microsoft's other studios are either dead or stuck on live service slop.
Will VI be able to surpass Oblivion's cities?
Can't believe people still buy Bethesda crap
>>728779645Why did they announce it 7 years ago?
you WILL watch a loading screen each time you open a door and you WILL be happy
IM STILLBUYINGTES 6IN GODD WE TRUST
>>728786073That last one might actually be true if they're really huffing their farts. Though I'd expect it more from veilguard.
>>728793498It's a chicken and egg thing. You cannot have a mod scene without a base game that people enjoy playing without mods.
>>728784256You shouldn't worry about it being dumbed down. You should worry about it being like starfield.
>>728782134I laughed out loud at the space shout. Same as in Skyrim, the first shout you get is the best one.
At least we know there won't be a voiced protagonist because they're way too fucking lazy to have multiple ones for different races.
>>728793498>If they gut mod support it will die as quickly as Saarfield.You say that like they're aware of anything other than property rights and turnkey operations.Every time paid mods has been on the table they've proven they're willing to let it die for pennies or simply to hoard their own intellectual.
>>728779645Actually surprised they didn't put this on hold to try and shit out a new Fallout real quick to bank on the popularity of the show.
>>728785051UE5 was only used to render graphics. CE is used for everything else.
>>728779645It'd have to be skyrim considering they broke fallout 4 and 76 again. And eso, but thats not bethesda maryland.
>>728781313While I dislike the body type 1/2 retardation, i'm of two minds about the armor. There's something viscerally hot about a woman in full plate armor and not showing skin.
>>728792237Nah, that anon is right. How are you this stupid?
>>728784256The main issue is, the game will have atrocious woke story, that Emil personally prompts from Chatgpt.
>>728797469I've heard that studios don't like to greenlight series unless they think they can get 5 seasons out of them. With the popularity if the first, despite the retarded shit, there's a good chance of it holding on for a few more years.
>>728797292Fallout 4 and Cyberpunk 2077 breaks immersion for me at times.Fuck voiced protags.
>>728790347Redguard had Garrick, the hand-rubbing happy kikemer merchant.
>>728797705Taking bets on if redguards will cry about muh slavery!
>>728779645"he still has faith after Microsoft enshittifcationYou poor sap
>Starfield without guns
>>728779710you jest but this is dangerously close to the truth. when the teaser dropped there wasn't actually a project ongoing, it was merely an idea in its infancy and that was still very much the case when i quit. source: i worked at bethesda prior to micro$oft slurping up ZeniMax
>>728797827Cyberpunk I don't really mind because you're not supposed to be your own character. You can make decisions that slightly deviate (not including the ending) missions and approach combat in different ways, but V is a pre-established character.
>>728798206At which point in Starfield's development did it go from white people in concept art to unsightly abos and other creaturas we see in game?
>>728798051>saarfield without guns, spaceships flight spaceship building, vehicles and maybe even without basebuildingftfy
>>728798437i didn't even know starfield was being worked on until the gameplay trailer dropped
>>728799274This should sound like bullshit, but I believe it. Todd himself said that they spent too many years working solely on the engine upgrade with both Saarfield and TES 6 in mind. And the game looks like it was hastily put together already after MS acquisition.
>>728779645will it have dragon sex though?
The dragons are bigger now? Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn.
>>728800574As if. Bethesda would never have the balls.Maybe, maaaaaybe Larian. But I doubt it also.
>>728799627>this sounds like bullshit but i believe itit's like a.. big factory, really. there are channels through which you can keep yourself updated about the products and what not but it's pointless unless you're genuinely interested for whatever reason and no one in my team gave a shit. i just get my blueprints and we discuss the development of individual components, much like how a nut & bolts factory have no idea that the order for 5000 non-standard bolts will end up in volvo cars, then your name ends up in the credits of a game you apparently worked on indirectly, kek
>>728795121Because investors told them to.
>>728779645Bethesda is so incompetent and retarded it's beyond belief. SPLIT UP YOUR TEAMS INTO SEPERATE PROJECTS SO YOU DONT TAKE A CENTURY RELEASING ONE TITLE, STOP HAVING 3K BLUE WHALED HAIRS WORKING ON ONE PROJECT ALL TOGETHER. OUTSOURCE YOUR IP LIKE YOU DID WITH FALLOUT NEW VEGAS SO WE CAN HAVE MORE GAMES IN BETWEEN THE LONG WAITS. FIRE EMIL FAGGARINO, HIRE ACTUAL WRITERS AND GAME DESIGNERS. STOP THE MICROTRANSACTION LIVE SERVICE BULLSHIT. ALL OF THIS IS SO SIMPLE BUT TODD IS A MASSIVE RETARD HUFFING HIS OWN FUMES AND TAKING ALL THE CREDIT FOR IPS HE DID NOT MAKE
>>728797827>>728797292starfield didn't have voiced protag and they explicitly said it's because it was a mistake to do it in FO4
>>728803231>OUTSOURCE YOUR IP LIKE YOU DID WITH FALLOUT NEW VEGASThis is how we got ESO, Blades and Castles. Mobile ones bad but harmless, while ESO caused enormous and irreversible damage to the fandom and every single wiki/archive project out there.
>>728803675Outsource them to companies with good track records and it has to be single-player
>>728803861Like...?
>>728779645Its going to be so shit. Its not even funny how shit it will be.