Valve doesn't give a fuck about anyone but themselves. Now give them money so Fat Bastard can buy another yacht.

>>728797486
Well OP.... WHY do you need to stop selling it huh?

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>OP's scam game got found out
>WTF why can't I just simply delete this game from every device in a nanosecond!?!?!

Maybe Itch io will be more up your alley ( If your game is even real... )

>>728797661
Because Steam is a shitty predatory platform that exploits small devs. I only sell on GOG now.

>>728797486
Because Valve handles the refund policy, and also wants to track potential legal issues early. Also, to prevent bad actors from impersonating the devs and pulling the games.

Don't worry. I'm sure an irrelevant shit game like yours won't have a problem with refunds.

>>728798418
>to prevent bad actors from impersonating the devs and pulling the games.
You can only use this form if you have a Steamworks app ID, dumbass.

>>728797902
No steam - no buy :)

Valve sells the idea of a massive, eternal library of games. Trying to remove a game from people's libraries goes counter to this and risks negative PR for Valve. So they require you to put in a bit of work if you want it done.

If this is not acceptable to you, don't sell on Steam.

>>728798770
Okay steamie

>>728797486
>all this shit
>literally just answer a few questions

>>728799076
>uhm, sweetie, your answers were not good enough... so we're gonna steal your game and pocket all the revenue from it now :)
That's what they always do.

>>728797486
whats the name of your game op? so i can buy it before you take it down.

>>728798972
That’s not the insult you think it is. The market determines the value of your game, not you. Steam is the best platform on the market right now, and so if you don’t sell on steam I simply won’t buy it :) Maybe I’ll pick it up in 10 years when GoG gives it away for free in a worthless indie ps1 survival horror slop giveaway bundle. Oh and guess what, you will never have real ovaries!!!

>wtf why can't I have a twitter user moment and delete everything on a whim, fucking fix this shit volvo

>>728798934
>Trying to remove a game from people's libraries goes counter to this and risks negative PR for Valve
No one can do that in any cirscumstance are you fucking retarded?
And it doesn't matter what Valve wants or if isn't Valve or not, that's not acceptable, period.

>>728799381
This game belongs to me, not to you or Valve. I get to decide what to do with it, not you.

>>728797486
for the same reason why companies make it somewhat annoying/difficult to unsubscribe

>>728797486
Probably to avoid any rugpulls, accidental delistings, poor impulse control, and there's that line there about offering refunds. Far as I know, asking for a refund on a delisted, abandoned in-dev game pretty much gets accepted automatically.
Plus I figure they're probably sus about why someone would want their game removed since abandoning a game and leaving it up has basically no downsides for the average dev, as you'd get a trickle of sales forever by leaving it up.
Also these: >>728797661 >>728798934

It's not like those questions are hard, either, I don't get what you're bitching about.

>>728799526
so why the fuck did you put it on steam if you don't want it there?

>>728799526
>This game
there is no game, you never showed it in first place

timmy tencent thread.

>>728797902
B-B-B-BASTE

>>728799548
>rugpulls,
These happen anyway
>accidental delistings,
This never happened on Itch, weak reason.
>poor impulse control
This is not for Valve to decide
>and there's that line there about offering refunds
They don't pay you out the final money you make from the game anyways and keep it for these refunds.

>>728799681
There isn't a game NOW, but if I was to make a game, it's fucked up that I can't take it down without jumping through Valve's hoops.

>>728799660
I put it there because I didn't know any better. If I knew how shit this platform is for small devs I would've never put it there.

>>728799846
>>728799681
Samefagging tranny

>>728799783
>This is not for Valve to decide
It is when they would be financially left on the hook for refunds

>>728797902
what is your game, ill pirate it

>>728799418
>No one can do that in any cirscumstance are you fucking retarded?
NTA and the retard is you
There WERE cases when games were removed from people's libraries

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>>728797661
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>>728798934
>>728799361
>>728799381
>>728799548
>>728799660
>>728799681
>>728799747
>Steamies:VALVE IS BASED WE LOVE CAPITALISM!!! MONOPOLIES AREN'T REAL I LOVE OWNING A LICENCE NOT THE ACTUAL PRODUCT
>OP: i also want to benefit from capitalist ideals and remove my product from general sale
>Steamies: WAAAHHHH NOOOOO THINK OF THE HECKIN CONSUMERINOS!!!! YOUR RIGHTS END WHERE VALVE'S FINANCIAL INTERESTS BEGIN

>>728799951
>It is when they would be financially left on the hook for refunds
They garnish the final money you make from the game before delisting it. They're not paying out of pocket. Stop falling for corporate propaganda.

>>728800008
nice digits

>>728800000

>>728797902
i call bullshit.

>>728800008
explain to me how valve is a monopoly if I can just go on epic or gog instead. valve wins because it does more than just sell games.

>>728800091
There's games being delisted on Steam on the daily. Do you think they pay out of pocket for all of them? They'd go bankrupt if they had to.
Think for a fucking second, steamie.

>>728800127
>explain to me how valve is a monopoly
Because they're the biggest. It's the textbook definition. "Mono-" means "very," and "poly" means "large."

>>728800127
You can go to GOG and then own the game for life. Download it and do whatever you want with the installer
You can go to Steam and purchase a licence for a game rental from Valve as long as they continue to operate Steam. You can't share this game with a friend, you can't play it without Steam running, you can't transfer your account to another person and if Valve ever goes EOS then you will never play the game again.
>Epic
Timmy is trying to to be Steam Jr

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>people are seriously responding to another one of the "Steamies" schizo's dogshit threads

>>728800365
>you're le schizo if you hate valve's shitty drm!

I've seen paper sheets harder to fold than OP

>>728800253
so every large company are monopolies according to your definition ? is pizza hut a monopoly ? it's a very large business according to you.

>>728798726
Completely fucking irrelevant. Pulling a game should be a rare event, and one with should have a 0 percent false positive rate. Time is not of the essence unless you have a really fucking important reason it needs to go NOW, which is part of why that list is there.

>>728799526
You have a contract with valve, and valve will absolutely pull your game if you want it pulled. What's unreasonable about the process? Just requiring a form?

>>728799548
>>728799783
Disputes on who has the right to offer a game or own a game, especially with publisher fuckery I think is more common.

>>728800231
You missed with the reply, faggot.
Also like, yeah, i would expect valve to keep some money to pay back refunds, i already heard they pay up devs after a month or two (or some other period) just so they have can guarantee refunds, and devs couldn't pump and dump

>>728799169
Oh shut the fuck up Tim Sheeny.

>>728801019
>Completely fucking irrelevant
Except it's not, you fucking retarded steamie. You can't impersonate a dev if there is no Steamworks app ID tied to your account, so there is no way for a false positive to happen. You're just a delulu cultist who defends every valve move.

>>728800231
>There's games being delisted on Steam on the daily.
...for fraud, TOC violations and bad behavior, and getting bought out by timmy or the likes. I doubt there's people going through the process, paying the steam fee and then pulling their shit every day.

In any case, there are some people who do that, and there is a proper process for that. I know of no dev who has ever been denied. OP has not even established what his pain points of the process exactly are. I'm still on the bubble on whether he's just an emotionally unstable nutcase, a fraud or both.

>>728801213
I accept your concession.

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>>728799526
The moment you put it on Valve's storefront you cut them in on the deal, you retard.

>>728801285
It's the "steamie" shitposter again. There's no logic, just schizophrenia.

>>728800335
Both require accounts you shill. Physical or go fuck yourself

>>728801285
>for fraud, TOC violations and bad behavior, and getting bought out by timmy or the likes. I doubt there's people going through the process, paying the steam fee and then pulling their shit every day.
There's a website called steam-tracker which tracks every delisted game, and a lot of them are not banned games for fraud. They're pulled by their own devs or publishers and most of them don't have a re-release on EGS

>>728800965
Cunt that was A BLATANT FUCKING JOKE YOU STUPID MOTHERFUCKER
JESUS CHRIST

>>728801386
Is that the same dude who tracks Gaben's boat locations, and should be on the FBI's watchlist if he ever rents a dinghy nearby or starts shopping for fertilizer?

I see, we're dealing with someone who is unfamiliar with a publisher dispute. >>728801262

>>728801285
>I'm still on the bubble on whether he's just an emotionally unstable nutcase, a fraud or both.
The OP image is a public page he's screenshotted.
https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/retire_app
He's not a dev, he's just one of the many retarded schizos spamming this board with inane hate for inane reasons. This one in particular has a grudge against Valve and so constantly spams threads about them.

>>728801361
So let me get this straight.
You put a game on Steam, and not only do you have to pay $100 upfront to do it, Valve takes a 30% tax from you before even giving you money, doesn't protect you from refund fraud by its users, and apparently now owns half of your game as they get to dictate what you do with it or not?
That's a really shit deal, any indie dev putting their game on Steam is fucking themselves over big time.

>>728801564
>he's not a dev, he's a schizo spammer because... HE TOOK A SCREENSHOT!
And you call others schizos?

>>728801396
>physical
Have fun playing your Shitch 2 game key "game"
>insert game
>100000GB download required
>always online internet connection required to boot the game
TOP JEJ

>>728801583
No.

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>>728801583
You're a sad nerd who got bullied in high school Timmy. Get over it.

>>728801681
Yes.

>>728801668
You're not fooling anyone. Here's another one of your threads for those curious.
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/727660535/
If society hadn't degenerated into catering to retards and the mentally ill, you would be locked in an insane asylum where you belong.

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>>728801583
Yep.
So then you have to ask yourself, Tim, why do indie devs keep using it while the Epic Tencent Store is a complete flop?

When everyone would rather shoot themselves in the foot instead of hang out with you, you should probably start checking if you're ugly, or smelly, or just generally unpleasant.
There HAS to be a reason why women choose to fuck a dog instead of fucking you.

People do not wake up one day and say "I think I will cut my arms off for no reason."

>>728801847
That's not me. Take your meds, schizo.

>10% cut for AAA and 20% for super high performing non AAA games, the rest get 30%
>your game is now susceptible to be removed at any point due to payment processor bullshit
>refund policy completely fucks over devs, valve claims refund system is not "for trying out games" yet lets users refund for reasons such as "not fun" or "purchased by accident" (yeah like that fucking happens)
>systematically crippled the promotion algorithms to disadvantage devs and only benefit already selling ones
>steamworks ui is outdated and obtuse, some systems like uploading trailers are straight up broken and require you to reupload the same file literally 50 times
>incapable of maintaining their storefront and keeping away the bots
>can't even unpublish your game by yourself, have to ask fatfuck gabencunt for allowance
Steamies defend this.

>>728797486
You made a deal with Steam you stupid fuck, you can't just break it without elaborating.

>>728802017
>You made a deal with Steam
What deal? I paid for the listing spot, it wasn't given out for free. I should reserve the right to delist it at any point since I paid for it.

>>728801424
>I was pretending to be a retard
yes you were...

>>728802410
Are you too fucking stupid to comprehend sarcasm?
You really thought "Mono means Very" was said in anything but jest?

>>728802505
keep going

>>728802340
yes, purchases are a form of contract also known as a deal. if you can't handle the most basic fundamentals of legal philosophy why are you even doing business for yourself, get a fucking publisher you faggot

>>728797486
you can read it in the third sentence
>Our biggest priority is making sure customers are treated fairly

>>728797486
Do other stores have this "button" or is it industry standard?

For the same reason companies are always asking questions on surveys. they just want to collect data, fuck knows what the actual value of any of it is. All Steam is REQUIRED to know is you're the one holding legal ownership and want to remove the game. (in rare circumstances you have ownership in dispute, like when Nexon had taken that korean indie dev to court claiming they owned the game the indie dev was selling)

The second paragraph is definitely aimed at the "tranny having a melty" phenomenon we see in other areas, like Nexus where some tranny deletes everything on day when he's have a melty. Nexus also implemented a policy where they can only hide everything instead of delete it in case meds are taken and regret settles in.

>>728802340
>he didn't read the fucking contract
Holy fuck mate.

>>728801847
What a strange thread. The global minority would be white people right?

>>728802907
On itch and gog you can just delete your game no questions asked. Because, you know, they actually RESPECT their developers unlike valve.

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>>728803268
>buy game on gog
>developer has a melty
>game stolen
wtf, you guys told me gog was consumer friendly

>>728803268
Cool. Just sell there then. It's not like steam hid this clause.

>>728797486
You know this is readily available to see before you put your game on Steam, right? That's on you mate.

>>728803268
Devs want the Steam klout without any of the inconveniences, that's on them. They can sell on GoG if it bothers them too much, Idgaf.

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>>728799526
Wrong. Once you sell it to me, it's mine. I will break steam's DRM to keep it, so even if the service goes down, it's still mine.

Seethe, tranny.

>>728797486
>Why does Valve not respect its developers?
I don't care
I hope devs suffer more

>>728803561
>Once you sell it to me, it's mine. I will break steam's DRM to keep it, so even if the service goes down, it's still mine.
Sure, you own that particular copy of the game. But you don't own the game itself. If the dev wants to take it down, it's not your choice.

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>>728797486
>sign partnership with Steam to sell your game on their platform under their rules
>don't read the rules
>shocked you can't veto if it keeps being sold or not
Modern devs deserve all that's coming to them.

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>>728803670
>*makes your game available FOR FREE to everyone despite being pulled off the storefront*

>>728802340
You do business without reading the paperwork?

>>728803732
Projecting.

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>>728804306
also too stupid to know what projecting means, huh? you've got a hard life ahead

>>728800253
Don't worry, I laughed

>>728804394
Nah, consider you're a weeb tard I also know you're a self-loathing tranny who projects its own insecurities on others. You want to kill yourself, but can't, that's why you freaked out and told me to do it, even though my initial post was completely innocuous.

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>>728804828
you took eight minutes to read up on projecting and try to make your post fit inside it, and you still got it wrong lmao

>>728797486
you don't have to go through more than a single hoop. push an update with highly dubious lolis you absolute nimrod. just get your product banned

>>728804892
>outs xerself as a terminally online troon
Lmao

>>728800008
>I AM SILLY! I TALK IN ALL CAPS BECAUSE MY OPINION IS OBVIOUSLY LE BAD! IF YOU SHARE MY OPINION YOU ARE LE HECKING CAPITALISM PATRIARCH LE NAZI CHUD!!!
>i am rational and have the correct opinions, you can tell because of my lower case text
>NOOOOOO YOURE NOT ALLOWED TO EXPOSE ME FOR BEING AN EVIL CHUDDDDD AHHHHHHHH
and then everybody clapped!

>>728805128
>terminally online
Back to twitter, poo nigger.

>>728803749
meanwhile sega delisted three yakuza games for slight upgrades

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>>728803670
>But you don't own the game itself
Intriguing
So how am I still playing this (hypothetical) game if I "don't own" it?

>>728805156
Yes that is how it works online. Your enemy is always portrayed as an all caps raging faggot and you ally or yourself is a calm, collected individual that doesn't give in to emotions.

>>728805983
Uninstall it and then try reinstalling it when Valve says your licence is revoked.

>>728801583
So let me get this straight. You want Steam to take on the role of publisher for nothing? Dedicate their own server space to your product, process payments, advertise and distribute to the largest general market in the industry?
Try getting a deal that good from a real publisher

>>728806692
Jokes on you, I've got about 50 copies installed. God bless steam for giving me so many for the price of one

yet another thread where valve actually has concerns for the customers instead of the retarded devs. oh no I have to send an email!!! so hard to do business! KWAB

>>728797486
>Why does Valve not respect its developers?

because it knows about jews and pajeets existing on earth