He's doubling down
>>728850694this guys a degen furry but he's right
>>728850694>start losing>double down to appear strongIt is so over lmao. Even his army of fangirls(male) wont help him.
>>728850694Good for him. It's objectively the correct course of action here for him, whether you like AI or not
The libtard short-circuits and shits and pisses because they want to support the bear fucking company but not the AI company
>It would have been irresponsible for me to not see if I could get away with robbing that grandma
He knows this will have no significant impact on their business, and he's right.
>>728850792Never apologise to woketroons and leftards
Anti larian shills keep taking fat Ls
don't care still buying divinity
>>728850694Ok. In your own words how is he wrong?
>>728850957Post the one with the bulge
>>728850694Folding like a bitch would be worse, as none of the lefties would forgive him anyway
Bro we all 'evaluated' it
>>728850931>67006 7!!!!!!!
>>728850945where is all the great right wing art?>from the 1800s and before!so before AI? why don't you write some poetry?
>>728850957>buyingJust ask chatgt to send you key, retard
If you're using AI to enhance your work, as in you've showed your projects beforehand and then use AI to upscale it, then it's fine.
>>728851118Where can I get those special keys that tricks steam into thinking you bought the game?
>>728851180Why is that fine?
And I will not buy his games regardless, because he's making woke shit.
>>728851026Kinda sad people can't even apologize anymore.
>>728850694Objectively correct take and anyone that disagrees is an over emotional luddite retard.
>>728850694Even degen libtard support ai nowWhy only on /v/ i find so many anti ai fags?
>>728851221Because it’s no different than using a rasterizer or importing your drawing from Illustrator into Photoshop and running it through filters and other enhancement tools as needed. It just saves you the time. Spending three hours calibrating what your brush sets doesn’t really make you an artist, does it?I think a big pushback here is from people who don’t realise how much digital artwork uses ‘smart’ tech as the standard.
He's a dumb boomer who has been annoying his employees with his slop gen pictures and they can't say shit to him because he's the boss
>>728850694Good. The coordinated outrage was a pretty obvious attempt to browbeat them into taking a few of their people to “fix” the company, since being private makes them immune to the usual tactics.They’ll be in the crosshairs now, but the sheer amount of glazing they’ve had for the past few years means they can’t go all in without normalfags catching on.
Swen got setup by Jason Schreier
Guy has no media training at all.The moment is very ambivalent about AI, the best move is to be publicly quiet about it.If it gets warmer, you could say you used it to keep up with current tech.It if gets worse, you say (after release) that your team used it just a little bit, found no practical use for it and went back to classic art production.
>>728851735Jew btw
>>728850945I'm so sorry anon. Oh, wait...
>>728851735KEK, implying that there is a" huge push" for AI and that every concept art is AI generated when in the same interview the CEO tells you that they are hiring a shit ton of concept artists and you don't even mention it is just evil.
>>728851735Is schreier a AAA plant?
>>728852094Hopefully they sue that jew bastard for defamation
CEOs prioritize shareholders over customers everyone knows this
Wtf I like Larian now
>>728850981If you're an artist, your one and only reponsibility is to create things with soul. To let your own soul freely flow into your creation. AI is inherently soulless. It's the death of all that makes us human. It's utterly fucking disgusting.
>>728852321Fucking buzzwords everywhere. That's like saying Jurassic Park (1993) is cheating because it used the Silicon Graphics (SGI) workstation to create the dinosaur cgis.
>>728851502Because it's pointless to do so. No one ever admits they're wrong so conceding like you would for people acting in good faith just undermines you. Online arguments are truly like Indian culture, izzat/saving face etc. Nothing matters except the perception that you won. >>728851617Almost every artist is a leftist and their community is having a collective meltdown over AI
>>728851617Because it's the digital equivalent of a "made in China" label. A far cry from something of quality, handled with care. A sure sign of something mass-produced and soulless.
>>728852267This, this so fucking much. I would be less hostile towards AI if greedy corps didn't make every technologies in the market expensive, the fact is we regular folx do not benefit from AI as much as these wall street fat cats.
>>728850694>an AMA in the future>sometime after the christmas breakLiterally hunkering down to weather the storm. Swen knows that the outrage machine has an incredibly short memory and by the time this AMA actually happens nobody cares anymore.
are the rumours...true?
>>728850694He already lost all the wokies just before the AI bubble implodes, after which he will look like a complete retarded. Shouldn't have sold out to the Sabateans with that Satanic trailer for Divinity Divinity baka.
>>728852094What the fuck is soul? Can it be defined?>inb4 evasive answer
>>728850694STOP IT SWENALL THE HOGWARTS BOYCOTTERS WILL BOYCOTT YOUR GAME NEXT
>>728852321Ok, putting aside the drivel about soul and soullessness, what if instead of an artist you are a video game developer?
>>728851735With (((Schreier))), you lose. The transcript is Swen just saying the same thing he said 7 months ago, meaning Larian uses AI for whiteboxing and shit like that. Schreier did his best to make as inflammatory article out of that as possible.
>>728851735>Schreier
>>728851617>MGS2
>>728852267In Larian's case, he and his wife own 70% of Larian, with him being the founder and CEO. Larian is sitting with 315 million Euros just in cash, so it's not like Tencent is bothering too much with pushing for dividends.
>>728851735Schreier is a demon in human form.
>>728851221Why it's not?
>>728851438Don't worry, you're completely irrelevant since Divinity will sell 20+ million copies anyway
>>728852387Jurassic Park created giant dinosaur models.
>>728850945>ai slop is uhh based and redpilled guys
>>728852685It isUsing AI the other way around is fine too
>>728850694I dont play larian woke slop tho
>>728852520NTA but in that context it means artistic intentionality. Current AI models are probabilistic demons that merely attempt to please humans, and so their artstyles are the sloppiest slop possible and lack a lot of elements that are common in human art.
>>728852387>soul is a buzzwordGolems like you shouldn't have rights.>>728852553>what if instead of an artist you are a video game developer?Those go hand in hand. To create a video game, you need to create art in the form of visuals and music.
>>728850694always funny to see leftists eating each other
>>728851617>Even degen libtard support ai nowPack it up guys, AI isn't based and redpilled anymore
>>728852869Yes soul in the context you used it is possibly the king of all buzzwords
>>728852869>To create a video game, you need to create artThat's not true.You can make a game thats not art.Or are you saying literally every game ever made is art?
>>728850694yes! right wingers will rise from the ashes. we conservatives will fight the good fight together!
>>728852387It's much closer to the screeching that painters and illustrators still do about how photography can never be art
>>728852731You mean you will say it will sell 20+mil copies but you will never provide proof?
>>728853064He's saying that the elements of a game (which aren't strictly required anyway) are forms of art
>>728853156And im saying, his statement>To create a video game, you need to create artIs false. Because it is.
>>728853114No amount of proof will ever satisfy your paranoid schizophrenia, so just keep seething and coping, darling.
>>728853226Not doing a good job of saying it
>>728853226>a visual medium doesn't need visualsokay dude
>>728853462>I think all drawings are art, no matter whatIs this really what you believe? Be honest.
>>728852932you can't present yourself as le wholesome chungus champion of the working man when you're using tools like thisThese companies aren't investing in these tools because they do better work than trained professionals, they're investing in them so they can fire their staff and replace them with something worse but cheaper
>>728853257Just make a WRITTEN post from an OFFICIAL LARIAN STUDIOS ACCOUNT, announcing the sales numbers of the game, like this:
>>728853462No, it doesn't. Many games have gotten by with nothing but text.
>>728850694Swen will make lizard women real
>>728853462I can play Skyrim on my Echo.It's not a visual medium, you are just insisting that it is because that's all you play.
>>728851735Never trust this malevolent demon-kike
>>728853849and the font of that text was determined to look visually pleasing - a visual aesthetic. the color of the text, the color of the background, the presentation of your reading material,all visuals. all designed to be viewable, to be pleasing to the eye for prolonged periods.>>728853516absolutelya game about stick figures is still its own visual aesthetic medium, see the old newgrounds flash games >>728853943>sklyrim on my Echo???genuinely what the fuck are YOU on about
He's objectively correct. His only mistake is trying to be transparent about it.
>>728853839Warhorse is owned by embracer which is public so they legally have to publish these numbers anyway.Privately owned company jealously keep these numbers secrets (Bethesda when it was private, valve, larian, etc.)
>>728854164>genuinely what the fuck are YOU on aboutYou can play Skyrim, audio only, on your Amazon Echo.So no, games are not a "visual medium". You only play visual games. Your opinion has been debunked.
>>728850995??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
>>728850694Good. trannites can piss and shit themselves in a corner on twatter and be ousted from everything they ever cared about.
>>728852762What makes you think the AI is going to be used in game development in the same lazy fashion as you with soraAI or whatever?
Stop fucking whining about AI you retarded luddites, so what if it's woke and trannycoded? It's the future.
>>728851078right wing poet here, have some songs written by me and fed into AI to be sung by it:>Hunger Drift (a song about communist hatred for their own people)https://files.catbox.moe/bfebfy.mp3>Snow-Colored (a song about apathy to propaganda)https://files.catbox.moe/r4ndqz.mp3>I want to believe (a song about communist prison systems)https://files.catbox.moe/8jl1gu.mp3
>>728854215Larian is 30%owned by Tencent and they are legally required to report their sales. Also, big sales numbers and success work as marketing, and not using it shows the success doesn't exist.Example of it is Elden Ring, From Software owns the game fully without the publisher and they are eager to showcase their success - because it invites more success.And you have confirmed Larian are pussies about owning their fail.
>>728854269i have no idea what that is, so sure, you win i guess???
>>728854432You don't know how to use Google?Either way, thanks for admitting defeat.
>>728854390>please fight the greedy publishers for me so I can feel good about consuming media wholesomely you fucking chuds!
>>728854543i'm seeing clocks and bluetooth speakers and i don't really care to look any deeper than that for whatever it is the thing might be
>>728854604It's a Bluetooth smart speaker that you talk to.You can play Skyrim on it. Have been able to for years now.
>>728850694Show your weak prompting arms
>>728854660i don't think turning off (or removing) the monitor from a computer is the same as being designed with inherently zero visuals, but i like your theory so we'll stick with it
Disclaimer: fuck Vishnu, fuck India. Cows are delicious and I'm going to sous vide a big-ass steak tomorrow or the day after, I'm not sure yet.I like AI but I don't like when people get lazy with it. Flash did the same thing back in the day, like it could've been used for good, but then we got like 10 years straight of the lowest-effort cartoons.>>728851617Not sure which got hit harder, /co/ or /v/. /co/ got:>artists who bitch that their Patreon page only gets $5/mo and blame their low income on AI despite the fact they've always been in the single digits>people who gave up on art the second AI stopped being complete shit>those weird social media addicts who get all their opinions and thoughts via osmosis, and still probably believe that old myth where AI models are literally literally just compressed folders that collage the art together./v/ has:>crossboarders from /co/ (see above)>people who wont stop with the SAAR BLOODY BASTARD shit where all AI users are Indians, no exceptions. Ironically, they're probably "shitting up" threads more than the poos do>some of the worst samefagging on 4chan>that constant swarm of people who turn everything political, and thus supporting AI means you support [BAD TEAM]>some of the worst "us vs them" out of the entire site>salty cryptobros and NFTfags that still hang out here and dump on AI because NFTs were effectively stomped on by AI becoming the next big "thing" after companies dropped the NFT trend
>>728854853It was designed with literally zero visuals in mind.Why are you pretending to know about this game you've never heard of before?
>>728851852>>728852562>>728854080>duh joosJews conquered you. Your people are their bitches.
>>728854080he married her to get a job at kotaku and would post a private forum how much he hated her.after his career started going up and more public he stopped posting all that shit and tried to scrub everything, but the dude is a legit psycho and a huge zionist.
>>728850868>directionbrained polnigger comes with his retarded takesGamers want quality, not the dung that is "AI". I understand that you "people" don't care about quality because you are not gamers.
>>728854215>valveyeah valve doesn't post game sales but they literally have public player numbers.
This is quite possibly the biggest scandal in the history of video games.
>>728854975jason schreier is a confirmed racist jew who hates on dev studios based solely on race.
>>728854934>this game you've never heard of are we not discussing skyrim?? or is this some like, audiobook version of it or whatyou gotta be more elaborate with your explanations if you're gonna try to pwn people with exotic examples like these
>>728855123Look it up before you reply to me again.
>>728850945>woketroons and leftardsso, their own fanbase?
>>728855114>schreier is a confirmed racistjews aren't explicitly "racist", they're just anti-human in generalthey hate anything and anyone not within their own ethnoreligious boundaries - to them we are all the same shade of wretched goyim"racist" is an invented term (by jews, surprise) from the last century to shame white people into capitulating to their immigration policies to import more debts for the central bank - they'll put on the mask of civility and decency if it means growing their stolen wealth as such
>>728851735typical
>>728855165it's very confusing to even read about - is this not just LLM narration/roleplay?it seems like it's just a flowchart CYOA version of "skyrim" that's more or less just a handful of looping scenarios and events?whatever the original point was, i think we've lost ityou should try out sillytavern w/ gemini if you think talking to your speakerbot for story writing is fun
>>728855382My original point is that you were wrong. And this was an example of why.You're really not very good at reading, are you?
>>728850694whats with AI that breaks peoples brainsthey see a YESMAN machine that constantly shits out garbage and say thats its the future
>>728854996I am not doubting at all but do you have any screenshots or archives of him shit talking his wife?
>>728854390>trannycoded>they just recently did some testing and surveys to find that the LGBT/"woke" make up a disproportionately large percent of the anti-AI "faction">you could've googled it but instead shitposted about itLOL, LMAO
>>728855417the site got wiped a few years ago because the FBI (or the CIA? I forget) was raiding a bunch of sites that had problematic content at certain point (and it being on the list) and the owner being a literal billionaire who was one of the founding facebook members (who created it before that) got tipped off and shut it down and completely purged everything.I never took screenies just had links to certain posts he made which obv don't work now and I didn't expect it to get shut down. I know people HAD screenshots and would post them of him saying insane shit and make fun of him, but I don't visit the restarted site and it is full of a bunch of tranny loons for a long time now.
>>728855496you're mistaking an LLM narrator for a videogame, i don't think we're on the same page - i might also be looking at the wrong thing since you refuse to provide your own evidence lol
>>728855613sorry not founding, I meant one of the first members.the new site got taken over by another dude who runs it from Japan and was an admin on the old site.
>>728855123 Nah man, it’s not Skyrim. That’d be too easy. Dude brought up one of those AI-generated text adventure things, like AI Dungeon or whatever it’s morphed into now-some autistic flowchart simulator with no visuals, no gameplay, just machine hallucinations vomiting up story beats that pretend to be interactive. It's like playing Morrowind via telepathy, if your brain had a stroke mid-loading screen. Wouldn’t call it a game unless you also call reading your fridge’s error log an RPG.
AI is the future, those who resist will get left behind
>>728853839it's pretty crazy that the first KCD reached those figures, it always struck me as a somewhat niche title what with its realistic setting, punishing early game combat and some autistic mechanics like saving with potions
no graph showing AI use per country? Until two days ago, it was a recurring post in threads like this...
>>728850694I'm not an AIfag, but it's always good to see someone with enough of a backbone to remain firm in their stance over immediately capitulating like a bitch because some basement dwelling losers on twitter cried.
>>728855624Explain why its not a game.I'll wait
>>728856708>a gamei see you moving the goalposts already by excluding "video" from "video game" so i'm going to politely decline
>>728851735many such cases!
>>728850792dont admit defeat to leftists lol. If Sven had backed down it's an admission that AI use is wrong and he tried to excuse it anyways and it's still his fault.Trannies have long memories too.
>>728856749You already declared me the winner like an hour ago.I dont know why you are pretending to argue with me.>"y-y-you moved the goalposts"Quote where i said "video game" itt. You wont be able to (except this post).
>>728856910because we've been playing a Game together this whole time, anondiscussing something is all it takes to make it tangible, by your own admission
>>728856995>discussing something is all it takes to make it tangible, by your own admissionWhere did I admit that? Quote the exact post.Thanks.
>>728854335Because Swen is either retarded or a liar.He has maintained that AI is "actually not that efficient" and "we only use it for concept art and power point presentations" Then why even bother using it? It sounds like such a small part of the company that using it can only be a net negative. He even says his employees didn't like it. He is now having to constantly answer questions about AI and deal with people lying about the game being filled with AI and Larian being an AI jeet slop company.I personally think he is a liar. I think they use more AI than they are admitting, or are planning on using more. This is the position of someone who wants AI to be a significant part of the game development process, not someone trying out a new photoshop plugin.
>>728850694Lazy fucks.They're reusing all the assets from BG3 anyway. They'll pump this shit full of AI upscales and cut every conceivable corner and they'll STILL charge $70+ for it.
Good, never give in to online backlash from slacktivists.None of these people play video games.
>>728857053your current statement is roughly based around: that discussing The Concept of Skyrim with an LLM (an 'AI' reading a prompt script, presumably Alexa's model in this case) qualifies as a real game.i don't think you're necessarily wrong, i've had my fair share of fun with LLM narration things as well - but i personally wouldn't call a ~900 token script about skyrim the same thing as the game it's based on
AI is here to stay and seething about will achieve nothing.
>>728857250>no quoteThanks for confirming you couldn't do it.
>>728857264>reddit filenameYou lost
>>728857324you've turned an interesting discussion into a rigid and passive-aggressive bore - sorry if i poked the wrong buttons anon
>>728850694Yeah the quote is right, he should evaluate new technologies.The way he's using it is retarded though.Reference photos are what you gather for information, so you know what you're doing is correct and authentic.He's replacing that with AI slop. It's literally the dumbest thing you could use it for.GenAI textures or LLM quest dialogue would be better than that.Assisting coders is an obvious use case.
>>728857264>is here to stayYes, the world is getting shittier every single day as we head towards our inevitable destruction as a species, thanks.
>NOOO HE USED CALCULATORS!!!retards
>>728855916>saving with potionswat
>>728857370>"you admitted it!!!!!">okay, show me where>"YOU ARE RUINING THE DISCUSSION!!!!!!!"Cute :3
Why is it called AI if it was designed to do repeating task with better precision/feedback like machine learning?
>>728857442Thank you for bitching on the internet. That improves the situation in a big way.
>>728857482>NOOO HE USED CALCULATORS!!!unironically the mentality that every 20-30+ yr old had to put up with from their teachers and elders while growing upwe were basically groomed into being anti-tech luddites by the establishment of the time ("you won't always have a calculator!!" fuck am i gonna do with trigonometry if i'm stranded on an island with no power anyway, mr. hitchens??)
>>728857534what i meant by that is your current "skyrim" example is literally just an LLM reading a script, anonyou're telling me that talking to an LLM about a game concept is enough to make it a real game, essentiallyi don't think you realize that the echo/amazon "skyrim" thing is literally just an LLM piloting a tiny script flowchart?? is that the issue?either way, whatever
ohhhmmmmmmm
>>728857631I think the intention was to learn how to think and how things work instead of being a luddite.I’ve had problems with cashiers unable to figure out the kind of operations they needed to make even if they had a computer/calculator.
>>728857692You still haven't quoted the post where i made that claim.Where is it?
>>728857570Because the the industry and its investors have always loved to sell you shit under false pretense, silly little goy.
>Kojima supports AI use in development>Swen supports exploring AI use in development>Vavra hugely supports AI use in development>Sandfall supports AI use in development>Todd supports AI use in developmentHmm, seems like the true auteurs of our time all support AI. At what point to the Anti-AI lunatics just leave? You know since they won't be able to play any videogame moving forward.
>>728857805>"I can play Skyrim on my Echo."if i had to correct this for accuracy, it would be: you can Discuss The Concept of Skyrim with Alexa.
>>728850694Based chad, might actually have to play BG3 now.
>>728850868leftards always end up eating their own.Too many competing red lines and microaggressions, new ones spring up too. Look at the state of Bluesky.
Why don't you all just kys, since AI can live your lives for you much more efficiently. Get with the times, fucking luddites. :o)
The shilling for AI everywhere even in fields its not very useful right now is retarded but rejecting the very idea of using AI being haram is next level luddite autism.Is this just an excuse to dogpile hate on Larian or what? It’s not like people won’t lose their jobs anyway sooner or later id they overlap too much with what AI bots do.
>>728850949>Anti larian shills keep taking fat Lsanti-A.I. troons BTFO
Playing old games and enjoying their quality while seeing new games fall over themselves with "we need to use the robot or else we're FINISHED" really helps put everything into context.My favorite games were made by small teams of abused workers doing everything they could, and are more respectable than the 100milliion+ dollar broken unfinished pieces of shit they gotta outsource overseas and then outsource again to fucking robots to get anything done.
>>728853584Artist faggots aren’t real workers and never will be. People with non fake jobs that actually contribute to building society aren’t affected by AI.
>>728850694What was he supposed to do? Troons would hate him even if he kowtowed to them.
>>728857923Not what I asked you to do, ESL.Please, try again. You said>discussing something is all it takes to make it tangible, by your own admissionWhere did I admit that? Quote the exact post.Thanks.
>>728857778the intention shoulda-woulda-coulda been about learning to live in the world developing around us instead of turning it away out of ritualistic obstinance (60 yr old boomer professor didn't have the same conveniences as his below-30s classroom, so neither should they - etc)
>>728857061Swen at least doesn't fire people because "vibes"
>>728850694He’s correct. AI is a tool, and people don’t seem to understand that it can work in tandem with human workers rather than replace them.
>>728858084it's not my fault you started your case with erroneous material, anoni won't suffer your insults for it
>>728858136>it's not my fault you started your case with erroneous material, anonWhat error did i make? Quote the exact post.Thanks.
>>728854431>>728853839Funny how this shuts down the bloomberg faggot every single time lmao
>>728852589too wordy, just say schreier is a jew and people will understand.
Destroy calculators, return to abacus.
>>728858101bluesky fags are really the most retarded people on earth kek
>>728858195talking to an LLM is not "playing skyrim"there's not much else to it
>>728858293Why not? Be specific.
>>728857482>>728857631the point of not using calculators in school is to be able to do math without themnobody expects you to not use a calculator at work, that would be sillyjust as it's silly to expect workers to not use AI
>>728851502There were studies and surveys done on it after the cancel culture nonsense hit it's peak a while ago. Most of the people who support it said that when someone apologizes for whatever they did to get cancelled, they don't feel glad at the apology or want to back off, if anything they said they get even angrier and want to destroy them even harder.Once you've shown weakness, they get bloodlust and double down and go after you even harder because you won't fight back. Everyone who avoided cancel attempts did so either by ignoring them or telling them to fuck off and threatening legal action against blatant harassment. Swen's mistake was responding at all, he should have just kept his mouth shut and waited for them to get bored and move on to the next thing to be outraged about.
Doubling down is the only way to deal with these people. If he backpedals some of them will feel empowered to demand more ground with the game itself and the studio. Some of them will just say he's lying so they can keep farming internet clout.
>>728858348>Be specific.i am not "playing pokemon" when i talk to (roleplay) with my LLM about Hilda getting deep dicked by a zebstrika, for exampleis it a game? maybe, i have it set up to be a CYOAwould i deliberately misguide you into thinking this is the same as the pokemon franchise, argue it, die on the hill for it? absolutely not.
>>728858406Or he should have been like Daniel Vavra and just told them to fuck off and get used to it. But that's not Swen's personality.
>>728855568that poster is just trying to frame the right as pro-A.I. when it's leftards against their globohomo corporate masters.They have to invent people's positions because they've already lost, these corps aren't going to back down to Resetera troons.The good news is that woke localizers and voice actors complaining about A.I. are now in a weaker position.
>>728857521drinking saviour schnapps is the only way to save your game outside of sleeping in a bed (not nearly as much of a nuisance as it might initially seems, but also something that a lot of people are turned off by)
>>728858490Swen's also still trying to keep hold of the woke crowd where Vavra's realizes he's thoroughly burnt any bridges he had with them and is desperately trying to get the "chud" audience back.
Uncs crashing out at AI is funny af
>>728858101>posts a tome bitching about one engineer who did nothing wrong other than not care about Marxism and nigger worship demanding he should be fired because "bad vibes">follows up with one post about being sexually harassed by someone completely unrelated.
>>728858463>is it a game? maybeThank you confirming I was right.
>>728858616uncertainty isn't exactly concession but this isn't the first time i've let you slide with that
>>728858609Even worse they called out that harasser by name and said they work at CDPR now. If it's fake I hope that tranny gets sued to hell.
>>728858652You already admitted i won over an hour ago.
>>728857813I'll wait for Miyazaki's take
>>728858748and yet i remain here, a jester in your court
no more "account based in: india" neither? kinda sad...
>>728853109Photography is art only if there is alot of human input involved. Just snapping a picture on your iPhone isn't art
>>728853943Then that's not a video game, it's something else. It's even in the name, VIDEO game
love seeing troons and leftards fight their corp overlords. BG3 was their beloved woke-win game, but now hate the dev.The cherry on top is that they know they already lost this battle and know that we know. . . so it's all just people laughing at leftard death throes being farmed on forums and youtube.
>the guy who took chink money has no principles
>>728859263it's always fun watching them get swept up in the current of their own selfmade purity spirals when they formerly believed themselves part of the tide
>>728859263Must be confused for larian too.>Why are they attacking us? We promoted and continue to promote their ideas just like always!Still, at the end of the day and when this pass in a few weeks they're going to say it was an alt-right campaign led by white men and one guy who worked sweeping floors in one of trump's offices
>>728853064How exactly? All games involve the use of visuals, music, etc. The only exception to this are text based games. But writing can also be considered a form of Art. Some people will even call programming a form of art. So yes, pretty much all games are art. Especially if you are using the basic dictionary definition of art (ie a human creative work of some sort)
>>728850694People bitching and moaning about this are coping retards. As a professional programmer I can tell you, every job site I've been to has workers utilizing AI in one way or another. Obviously, you still need the skills and knowhow, but it vastly simplifies many processes and repetitive tasks and occasionally helps crack tough-to-solve coding problems or at least provide perspective.I guarantee you nearly every game studio has people using AI in one form or another now.
>>728850945>Missing the point that hardThe whole never apologize isn't that you're not supposed to win back favor from them it's that you're not even supposed to talk to them at all if they start circling. They don't care about you or what you actually did they care about making an example of you and getting to harm someone within the legal frame of their moral code.
AI is going to be the new normalYou can't put the genie back in the bottleThere should be labels that say how much a product had AI usage/content though
>>728860003Reasonable, which is why AIjeets will screech at you.
>>728859774>>728859774>>728859774I also want to illustrate an example unrelated to just pure code:Imagine you are making a 2d pixel game. You can draw the characters quickly, but creating a pixelized version of your characters takes 10x as long. Instead, you upload your image of your character and ask the AI to transform the drawn image into pixel art WITH in different stages of walking. Maybe it doesn't turn out 100% how you want, but you can go in and make minor edits. You still save countless hours of your time.
>>728858101>dude started saying stutff>other dudes started saying similar sutff too>but somehow everyone hates him
AI is based, seethe more leftist trannies
>>728850694There is literally nothing wrong with maximizing your office work with ai and cutting down costs and time if the end result will be human made.
>>728855008>play game>enjoy it>game wins multiple awards>find out they used ai>"NOOOOOOOOOOOO I HATE IT I HATE IT IVE ALWAYS HATED IT SAAR!!!!!!!!!! BENCHOD LOW QUALITY BLOODY BASTERD FUCK YOU BLOODY!!!!!!!!!"
>>728860003I don't think it is the new normal yet, but it is getting there fast. Once it is, it won't be labeled because you don't need to label what 'normal'. It'll be the other way around. Everything will be assumed to have had AI used during development, but some people will go out of their way to not use it and label accordingly.
>>728855008it's a tool you retard
>>728858821At least you admit you're a clown.I accept your concession.
Its so surreal seeing how fucking retarded anti AI people are.Even when they explicitly say that their artists still make all the assets in game and no AI is in the end product...well its still too much! Its still somehow putting people out of work! Anti Ai people are so disengenious, no actual discussion of this will ever be possible with them.
>artists need an AI to generate a reference so they can work over itSo the machines think and we work now?
>>728859137I said it was a game.Where did I use the word "video"?
>its okay to use random references online for inspiration and not credit them>the moment ai does it its bad
Jews are what is wrong with the world. In this 90000 word essay I will depict the punishment God laid on them and how they have forever been cursed to destroy themselves and all they touch.
>>728859701>All games involve the use of visualsYou think you cant play an audio only game? That's absurd.
>>728850694everyones already switching sides. Reddit is full of bootlickers
>>728862126>we need computers to take everything we've made so far and turn it into the most generic slop possible so we can have a point of referenceIf you can't see what's wrong with that, I bet you'll enjoy the future
>>728862150Thats the same process when any artist uses a random reference they find online w/ google images. They never credit the reference art, similar to how AI gets trained off of reference art.Literally the same shit
>UMMM IT'S NOT REAL ART IF UNLESS YOU MAKE EVERYTHING IN MSPAINT>USING ANY TOOL IS SLOPSLOPSLOPSLOP YOU SHOULD BE BANNED AND CENSOREDwhat causes this
>>728850694>>728850792Perfect opportunity to cut all that dead weight loose. Though it would probably be better if he ignored them. When the game releases it just going to be another wizard game moment for the loud minority anyway.
>>728858534>he plays games on cucksole
Most people are defending Swen and Larian because he's earned that benefit of the doubt over the years. It also doesn't help that the Anti-AI trannies just absolutely sperged the fuck out and continue to do so.They look unhinged.
>>728862296Literally not the same shit because, as you've pointed out, a human used to do that work. It's not some menial task and it's not about giving credit. Every piece of art in history has been inspired by the ones before it since a human had to interpret them in their very own unique way to create something new. Letting a machine do that part of the creative process kills it from the very first step.This shit only benefits shitty artists who can't even think for themselves
>>728862126These are people who won't adapt to the coming future and WILL be left behind, or they will betray their own "values" to keep up eventually.
>>728862807>use google to find a reference to base your creation off ofOr>use ai that is trained on the same exact references to base your creation off ofIts the same shit but with extra steps to get better resource images since you can fine tune it If you are just raw pasting the ai images into the game and calling it a day, thats one thing. That is shit. But that isnt what larian is doing.Blanket shitting on everything only goes to lessen your argument in the grand scheme of things
>>728850694Double-downers win in this world.
>>728862126It's just a die-hard faction that still thinks the AI invasion can be stopped at the waterline. You are already seeing many turn to a bargaining phase "well we'll see wait and see what it looks like" or "this usage of AI is ok but that usage is not" etc. Expect that to continue and increase.
>>728862296>"should I research what Cleopatra might look like for my historical video game?">"no, I'll just ask the GenAI to generate an image of Cleopatra and reference that because I am indian and do not understand how that can backfire"
>>728851735>Swen got setup>Continues to double down on the issue well after the interview.
>>728850792They don't need to help him at all. If he tweeted "suck my balls, I'm in charge and I say we're going to find some good uses for AI. If you don't like it you can lick my dick bitches," he would get far more support than he would derision. I respect someone that is genuine, if he indeed thinks it can be useful then he should continue to stand for it regardless of what complainers say. People that wilt because they receive backlash are pussies.
>>728863679what is he supposed to do let it cool off like a pussy?
There are plenty of developers, big and small, that actually use AI for real. But all Larian said was that they used it as a supplement to help their concept artists brainstorm during the preproduction phase before doing non-AI work and that the actual game won't have any AI generated assets in it. What's more, he even commented on how the AI use wasn't even very effective and hadn't helped much. Even for the preproduction brainstorming. That's fucking nothing. So why is this the story to blow up? Even as an AI hater I can't see how this is anything
>>728864680I think it's worse in Larian's case, I'd rather have AI generated assets cultivated by people based on real reference material, instead of art based on generated reference material since the end product will be more authentic.Almost made me wanna try sending him an email and try to explain how using GenAI for references could be a problem for him, but with how flooded the internet is today I don't think it's worth bothering him, I just hope someone notable makes the argument that he listens to.I think Arc Raiders seemed to use AI in pretty good way, VA signed off on their voices being expanded for future lines, makes it so they don't hit any future hurdles when they need to expand voicelines.
>>728865083We don't even know if they even used it as reference though. For all we know they just generated hundreds of different themes and ideas. Then maybe chose broadly generic concepts such as >maybe our next game could be more eastern inspired than our last or >flower wreaths are cool, we could use thoseAnd then they discarded all the AI generated stuff and looked up real life locations and flower wreaths for reference and did real work. Like I'm not saying this was the case. But people everywhere appear to be jumping to wild conclusions that aren't warranted from what was said in the interview.
This feels so retarded and pointless. Is anyone even gonna give a single fuck in 2029 when this game MIGHT see the light of day?
>>728862405loss of money
>>728851078metal gear solid, a story of a white man being the literal greatest supersoldier of all times, to the point they have to save his bloodline from extinction by cloning him. The true aryan ubermensch.
>>728850792>Be right>Stand firm against a sea of retardsThis is the only thing I respect the studio for (not buying their products though, too woke)
>>728850694Anti-AI trannies are so fucking annoying and repugnant that I have to constantly remind myself that AI is indeed bad for video games and I can’t start supporting it just to spite them. I don’t want to crack but you freaks are forcing my hand, so stop being cringe
>>728866220they are not woke. Larian is our guys all along, silently earning the leftoid's trust to stab them in the ass in a nonhomosexual way.
>>728866275>they are not woke. Larian is our guys all alongnice try Berg, but they are woke and we won't be funding them.
>>728863642>meanwhile, this was made without AIYour evidence holds no weight and is inherently bad faith
>>728850694Best action here would be to shut up about it completely. Literally never bring it up. Just use it like any tool. If the game ends up being shit, the anti-AI people can rejoice.
>>728866567they are gassing leftoids in the camp right now as we speak by supporting AI
>>728865968>We don't even know if they even used it as reference though.I actually do know. Because he said so.
>>728850945All the trannies immediately seething at you over this objective truth makes me realize why this place is so shit now.
>>728867518His answers sound perfectly reasonable and measured. Why are people acting like he's a techbro praising AI?
>>728866648Made that example because of that "documentary", since most people recognize that Cleo is wrong. Expect more of it if AI is used as reference material.My argument doesn't hinge on "humans are never wrong", you strawmanning faggot.
>>728850694Extremely based I hope next game is gooner, as he will learn the lesson by now to never bow to the degeneratesWoketroons all deserve the rope
>>728867815>His answers sound perfectly reasonable and measured.See the previous discussion>>728865968>>728865083>>728865083>>728864680
>>728867518>I actually do know.>Because he said so.But all he said was >But what they do is they use it for exploration. In reference for for the concepting of the concept artists. And >whiteboxing Effectively just supplementing some of the temporary programmer-art assets. "Exploration" is vague though. It would suggest they didn't use AI for reference, but if one was to stretch the concept it wouldn't necessarily exclude it. But the likely and expected interpretation is likely more along the lines of them just looking at it for inspiration. As I described above. So your post doesn't really change anything that I said. I based my post on the interview to begin with. Are you implying I missed or misunderstood something?Doesn't sound to me like they used AI for reference.
Alexander the Great defeated the indian king Porus btw
>>728867854Your argument does hinge on AI being always/almost always wrong.You being bad faith still stands
>>728867815>Why are people acting like he's a techbro praising AI?Because genAI is threatening the dream of many art majors. They want to get a six figure job where all they do all day is sit in meetings and draw images for big projects. The kind of people that would sit in deviantart 15 years ago are now in game dev. Those are also the kind of people most active on social media so when something "bad" happens they have a post ready to go.
I was against AI at first, but then I realized World War 3 was on the horizon and the economy is falling apart in there is no future job prospects for me. So I'm about to drop out of school, quit my job and do the neet thing full time. Use all the AI you want, I'm no longer participating in society and do not care.
>>728850694>ceo finds success in their company>immediately shoot theirselves in the footWhy are CEOs so fucking retarded?
>>728851438Based
>>728855916It routinely goes on sale for like 5 euros, I would imagine the average gamer sees it and goes "ultra immersive epic first person RPG with realistic mechanics for only 5 bucks? sign me the fuck up"
>>728857585Good point. I'm going to bomb a data center now.
>>728857631This. We should abolish school since people can just ask chatgpt anyway. If you disagree you're le luddite.
>>728851735Didn’t Schreier know about all the rape at blizzard for years and kept it to himself to sell a book about it
>>728862126>Its so surreal seeing how fucking retarded anti AI people areThis but pro-AI people instead. I finally understand what the first explorers must have felt when they made first contact with 70 IQ African tribes.
>>728851735it would be really, really funny if this ended up backfiring on Schreier
>>728868295>JS: What about concept art?>SV: So that's being used by concept artists. They use it the same like they would use photos.Concept artists use photos as reference material for their concept art.If they use GenAI the same way they use photos, that means the concept artists use GenAI as reference material for their concept art.
>>728852406That is nothing more garbage than American made products
>>728868331>Your argument does hinge on AI being always/almost always wrong.No it does not.Faggot.You are again mistaking me for the straw figure you'd prefer to argue against.
Divinity is looking goontastic there's no way I'm not buying I don't care about using AI during preproduction everybody does that
>>728868583Go to /fit/ as well, you may not be building yourself for a future, but at least you'll feel better before the end comes.
>>728854431Shill xisters... Our response..?
>>728862126notice how anti-AI people never care about the coding part being written by AI? It’s always the art aspect. Notice how they never complain that most of the asset creation in AAA gaming is outsourced for pennies and how most artists have been losing their jobs in the gaming industry for over 15 years at this point because of outsourcing
>>728868321westerners are so gullible lol
>>728850848>objectivelylol
>constantly pander to leftists in your shitty games>aieee why are leftists eating MY face!!?!KEKAROO!
>>728869083>Concept artists use photos as reference material for their concept art.Photos are used for different purposes you know. You wouldn't describe your reference material as photos used for exploration.
GTA6 probably used AI at some point in its development and people are going to find like a stray texture or some shit that looks AI-ish and it won’t affect sales a bit. It’s like when troons tried to boycott Hogwarts Legacy and then it sold 40 million copies
>>728869737Yes, objectively. Apologizing won't settle the ludditroons down and it'll only lead to them demanding more concessions. There's literally no reason to apologize, especially since he's done nothing wrong.
>>728870312Classic.To be fair it's slightly different.For Hogwarts it's a vocal minority boycotting, and the masses still bought it.In pic related it's people who say they're gonna boycott but they had no willpower.I still have my principles so there's slop AI stuff I won't engage with, but the vast majority of people won't care.
>sawyer is still seething over larian being more successful than obsidian
Based. Replacing liberal arts trannies should be cheered on
>>728870770Sawyer should really have a say in this considering the only good game he made was Fallout New Vegas and it was 80% Fallout 3
>>728850694three words: AI BEAR SEX
>>728858559Vavra got them back. The shilling for KCD2 was massive on reddit.
>>728871070Icewind Dale is great
>>728851078Baldurs Gate 3 is some great right wing art, loser.Made by EVIL nazis and fascists, and you trannies loved it.
>>728870770this faggot gets passive aggressive every single time there's a larian related controversy
>>728871309doesn't seem to bad
>>728854885more like /v/ got>a bunch of retarded outsiders, some of whom are clearly newfags dumb enough to admit they are googling how to blend in, shitting things up>the infestation of raiding infiltrators got mindbroken and added onto this
>>728862289>ignores everything said about making the final art by handlmfao
>>728850694Fake outrage. Every company is using AI and the ones you think aren't just don't talk about it.
>>728870478This
>>728859006>The human didn't push the button and aim the camera Nobody will ever pay for your shit art again and it's time to get a real job.
>>728867927yeah so what is your point?dude's answers seem fine.
>>728872212don't worry about it sweetcheeks<3
If AI is so great, why do developers hide it?Why is it up the consumer to notice it well after the game is release?
>>728871817>make chatgpt write me a script>I type it again into a manuscriptIf an artist can't think of any other work of art or concept to serve them as inspiration and needs a machine to tell them what to do, they're no artist. Once again, finding and exploring concepts to use as reference is as important for the creative process as the actual execution
>>728852497>ai>bubblelol?
>>728872465Because they don’t use it to jerk off how cool they. They use it to do work.
>>728872465Why is it important to figure out if AI was used after a games release? Its as pointless as figuring out what devs ate for lunch during development. Youre just looking for shit to be mad about lmao.
>>728872328sounds like you are losing your shit over it.>>728872493uhhhhh don't "artists" copy from each other all the time?sounds like you are just mad they found a faster way to google other peoples shit.
>>728872656That didn't answer his question.
>>728859302Getting to watch this shit happen in person was fucking hilarious.>New manager at work, liberal white bitch>want to toss out as many white people as she can to make the department a mystery meat slurry>encourages reporting "microaggressions" and any kind of racist remarks no matter how minor so she can fire them for it and replace them with one of her pet diversity hires, is buddies with HR so they fully support her>pissed she can't fire me because the competent minority hires who were here before her threaten to both quit and beat the shit out of her if she does because they like me(since I treat them the same way I treat anyone and was willing to go to bat for them previously if they were genuinely in the right on something).>one day innocently talking about a new hire she had lined up with someone, mentions he's probably from the inner city>her reason for thinking so when asked? He was black.>one of her pet diversity hires overhears this and fucking races to HR with it>HR turns on her almost immediately and get her fired, all of her pet diversity hires see a chance to get brownie points to get ahead and rat on her>said pet diversity hire herself later gets fired for trying to get another diversity hire fired for wearing braids because "you aren't black" which offended the actual black person who did the braids for her(and last I knew was trying to convince people she's best friends and hangs out with Taylor Swift now)>the diversity hires eventually either turn on each other and/or fuck off and the problem more or less sorts itself out
>>728850792They can't possibly beat bg3, so they choose to go "new ways".
>>728872820Yes it does, they don’t use it to show off and score good boy points with you. Why would they have to tell you about it.
>>728850792>It is so over lmaoWas over before it started. Look at other companies releasing games that can't surpass their magnum opus? Owari da.
>>728872465Have you seen how fucking rabid the anti-AI fags are?
>>728864218That is the easiest way to not get bogged down in drama yes. Just keep your mouth shut, bunker down for about a week, and the outrage crowd will get bored and move onto something else to be outraged about.
All of this began some genius of a journalist had the bright idea to respond "learn to code" to blue collar workers losing their jobs.
>>728850792>>728868583>but then I realized World War 3 was on the horizonLet me guess, two more weeks, right?
>>728873109For good reason, AI is a plague.
>>728850945Larian IS the woketroons and leftards. Their games are literally curated for redditors. A.I is slop. You will never produce anything meaningful with it and you will be homeless after the elites pack their bags to New Zealand.
>>728870770Understandable. He was a propaganda pioneer and yet... nobody cares.
>>728873242look we get it, you are mad that a group of based rightwing fascists who grab pussys at the office made Baldurs Gate 3.
>>728850792>>728850889>>728851695>>728852267>>728852497>>728859263>THAT'S RIGHT! LARIAN LOS-ACK!!!
>>728859263They'll still buy all the games they release. Harry potter was a non stop smear campaign still sold tens of millions of copies. It turns out the voices on twitter and in video game magazines (that nobody reads) count for less than nothing.
>>728858205No, him using a word wrong 20 years ago is clearly the worst thing that guy ever did.
>>728873402Even more embarrassing is how little of a dent the review bomb for bg3.Its not even a dent. Anti-ai fags are just an extremwly vocal minority. They mean nothing in the grand scheme of thingsThe vast majority of gamers do not give a fuck about this shit
>>728872465He openly talked about it in an interview, you retard. >if I threaten to kill you if you do something why don't you do it?>that means you agree with me that it's bad right?Retarded retard.
>>728873402>top sellers are all pro-AI and mahvel, who is hanging outOof. Guess trannies whining on twitter are not a relevant market, huh?
>>728873215Its always personal conjecture but no meaningful conversation with you lot
>>728873776BECAUSE PEOPLE NOTICED YOU FAT CUNTHE GOT CAUGHT NOW HES COPINGThat's the problem, they always hide it.
>>728873717>The vast majority of gamers do not give a fuck about this shitOnly when they are not-white. Well, at least until some days ago it was like that.
>>728850694okay but i still won't buy your slop
>>728873717Same shit happened when reddit tried to cancel factorio. There were dozens of threads and hundreds of angry Twitter users. 58 negative reviews was the final result (with over a thousand positive during the same period)Plus giving bg3 a bad review for something unrelated to the game itself is just asking for it to get marked as off topic.
>>728870478who said anything about apologizing? I just won't buy his game, why does this upset you?
>>728873923/pol/ pro-racism mixed with anti-ai faggotry is a really strange stance.
>>728873902>got caughtno they didn’t? The game isn’t out. People only know because he didn’t hide it and told people
>>728872203cope AInigger >https://www.forbes.com/sites/lesliekatz/2024/06/13/real-photo-wins-ai-photography-contest/
>>728874059White man's burden
>>728873935What happened with factario?But offtopic reviews have never really stopped teview bombs before. The entire borderlands series getting rev
>>728874143I didnt type fast enough, fuckI was gona say the entire borderlands series was review bombed because the third game was EGS exclusive for a bit.Certainly offtopic but those reviews stuck for a long while
>>728862150This is the part I don’t get. How is coming up with the thing not the gratifying part? I could see if the machine was somehow saving you labor steps, but when the part of the process it most replaces is the part where you actually fucking imagine something, who is that for? Guys, we did it, we figured out how to automate away the only part of the process where the human spark matters, now the production process can be 100% soul-crushing grind! Hooray!
>>728872813>uhhhhh don't "artists" copy from each other all the time?That exactly what I'm saying.There's a difference between copying the work of another artist and copying the product of some AI model that just took a bunch of stuff and produced some slop based on the lowest common denominator. The artist is supposed to research the topic and find out why it works or doesn't. If your only reference is some generic slop, without the particularities of this or that other work, you're only going to recreate the generic slop.
>>728874135Its like a man pretending to be a woman and competeing in women sportsHow disengenuous
>>728874276>I stole from x, not ydoesn't sound like a difference to mesounds more like you are mad they got it done faster.
>>728874257It’s because this is a job you dumb nigger. The reward is you get paid. I can guarantee you pretty much every artist there really wants to work on their own thing but that isn’t a financially viable choice for most artists
>>728873142Hilarious part is when AI takes enough low skill jobs like deliveries/cashiers/customer service and low physical white collar jobs like journalism/spreadsheet monkeys/paper pushing, then these sames liberals WILL cry for UBI. And then they will wonder WHY there are so many immigrants and their kids and parents living around then limiting their potential UBI. God this will be so fun to watch
>>728857413AItards refuse to understand this. if he said procgen, framegen, it would've been more understandable. informing yourself from AI slop, not understanding the potential history of what you're informing yourself from (like how an armor stitches together accurately via historical crafting) is beyond retarded
>>728874143Long story short the lead dev of factorio Kovarex read some programmers book on how to code better. Apparently this guy Bob is literally Hitler according to reddit so they demanded Kovarex put a trigger warning on his post. He wasn't very pleased about this.
>>728873109but ineffective right? Most people don't mind and don't care, so why double down on this?
>>728874276Half your post is personal conjecture, the other half is under the assumption the artist doesnt at all go beyond the AI and exclusively uses it without any outaide resources, in addition to the inate downplaying of anything AI could ever make.Its a bad faith and poor argument. You are appealing to emotions way too much.
why do right wingers love AI? Do they truly care about art as a medium or us it just visceral contrarianism?
>>728874483This stupid shit alone made mouth breathers utterly defend it when this guy increased the price for the game. It was the most kike shit I’ve ever seen but because this place is full of NPCs they just call you a tranny over it
>>728874726>why do right wingers love AI?it makes them feel powerful or something. that's literally it.
>>728850694>AI IS LE BADget fucked artfags
>>728850694As he should faggot go back to suck Jason's dick kike rat.
>>728874726I don't.There's subset of rightwingers who have been fooled into a false choice, AI or immigrants.Then there are those who like it because it makes liberals mad.Then there are general reasons for liking AI which are bipartisan.
>>728874378Those are all AI faggots pretending to be artists, which they're not. just parasites riding on the coattails of their betters
>>728850694Everyone uses generative AI, it's just people seeking investor capital who puff their chest out like this over it. Did people just ignore how that KCD2 developer admitting to AI-upscaling some textures? For-profit companies are not your friends.
>>728857813It's a topic that requires nuance. Naturally, people with smooth brains are going to fail this simple test and devolve into ignorant diatribe. AI is a tool. Take college essays.You can have it output an essay for you. You can tell it what topic you want to cover and what opinion you want to express, and it'll spit out some slop for you to turn in. Or, you can feed an essay you wrote into an AI and have it proofread, fact-check, and evaluate your work to suggest improvements and challenge your ideas. Maybe there's some middle ground where you use it for brainstorming arguments for a point you're trying to make. It reduces the cognitive load on a human; what exactly it does is up to the user. Whether this is ultimately a good or bad thing for humanity, I cannot say. The technology has only been around for about 3 years. I do know that people having knee-jerk reactions to what is a glorified google autocomplete is silly. pic unrelated (not made with AI).
>>728874726right wingers create nothing, but love destroying. AI will destroy creativity which is primarily driven by left wing thinkers.
>>728874584What is your post? I dont think i understand the question>why double down on this?Because honesty is better than saying nothing and lying when being asked about AI being used in the workspace?And yes, most people DONT care, but when the most vocal minority is screaming at you now because you dared to step out of line, they are going to talk about it. They want to be as trasnaparent as possible.
>>728875102I had to check if we were on the front page of reddit for a moment, holy projection and insecurities
>we hired a TON of concept artists so they can prompt chatgpt to show them what to draw>it would be irresponsible not to do thislmao okay. it's funny because he actually believes this.
>>728874892>doesn't like art>shills AI as the future of artbait or retarded?
>>728852527Kek
>>728875259That's the process? Were you in the office while they were doing this? I'd like to hear from some of the employees who utilized this tech (or chose not to utilize it).
>>728874796Everyone that wanted the game already got it for twenty bucks years ago. Anyone that finds it to expensive can ask for their friend to just send them a copy lol. The game is tiny and has no drm.
>>728875163he's literally just repeating himself. I mean i appreciate his transparency really, that's how i came to the conclusion that i will not buy his slop. That's also I'm supporting AI disclaimers . Also i just checked reddit out of curiosity and even they defend Swen en masse, so i truly have no idea what the AI niggers here are talking about when reddit is on your side >https://www.reddit.com/r/larianstudios/comments/1pobwsb/swen_is_pissed/
>>728861632A tool of what?
>say that AI is just an inevitably and companies will use it and the average person will not care if the end product is good>This isn’t even a pro-AI take. It’s just being realistic about what will happen>Anti-AI fags completely shit their pants and threaten you.What do you even do with these people but just ignore and lie to them. They’re too deranged for a discussion
>>728875518he literally said they used it in the concept art stage. like you're not even at the point yet where you have come up with the concept of what something should look like in your own mind you're asking gen AI to do it for you. which is the actual creative part of the job. it's so funny. imagine paying someone for that.
>>728874634>Half your post is personal conjectureWhat part? The part of artist studying the topics they want to explore with their work?>inate downplaying of anything AI could ever makeThe best these models have produced so far are videos of Cristiano Ronaldo yelling at old ladies. They haven't done anything that wasn't already feasible with previous technology and they never will. They are good at recreating things that already exist because that's what they've been designed to do.>You are appealing to emotions way too muchWe are talking about art, of course I'm appealing to emotions. Don't get me wrong, new technology is great as long as it lets us explore new horizons. These generative AI models do the exact opposite. The only reason they are pushed so hard is because it's easier for the corpos to sell them as actually intelligent since they pretend to do what only humans do, talk and create. Meanwhile, actually useful or nuanced uses of AI like image detection or 3D reconstruction are brushed off.
>>728875676okay but I will not buy the game. Why does this upset you? I'm beginning to understand the chuddha posters
>>728875623I guess its not an issue then and all this controversy is fake since you saw that one reddit thread, okay.
>>728875751Trim it down buddy. Im not readding 'allat
>>728875548That isn’t a good excuse, the idea that if a game is popular it should jack up the base price makes no sense. There are plenty of games that I like and if they ended up jacking the price I would be pissed. It’s a greedy shit head move. I seen people also give the piracy excuse but just because I can pirate a game doesn’t mean the move just stops being dogshit. I can pirate $80 doesn’t mean it’s okay for them to be $90 or $100 now
>>728875904based black man
>>728875297I like vidya and I don't pretend it's some high art form rather than a product to keep my monkey brain occupiedbasically whatever tools they use I don't give a shit I only care if it entertains me
>"It would be irresponsible for us not to evaluate new technologies."I have zero issues with this statement by itself. I do agree that AI shouldn't be included when creating or trying to create art (as close to art as video games can be). As a placeholder in alpha/beta eh, its okay but not for gold.
>>728875820>you must show me all the reddit threads shilling for larian or else this isn't happening redditors are the most infuriating blinds fantards of anything. I'm only pointing out that there's no "liberal infighting" and redditors are in fact AIfags. I have no idea what Swen is freaking out about, but I'll just continue not buying his game i guess
>>728850694Nobody cares about the AI nonsense. Swen is just being attacked, because everyone has realized that he is a degenerated furry.
>>728875798Yeah but you gotta understand most people will. Arc Raiders used AI voices and the average anti-AI fag lost their mind. Guess what, the average player didn’t care, it was financially successful and won a TGA award. The point is you gotta be realistic about this and having a meltie just makes people less sympathetic to your side more than they already are
>>728850945>only woketards and leftards hate bestiality and gore sloppa>Swen is basedHow did it come to this?
>>728872920>They can't possibly beat bg3, so they choose to go "new ways".yep, they know people are onto their woke shit now and will be autistically poking them to deny it or leak something. They no longer have the 2023 advatage of plausible denial now that everyone is looking for it.BG3 didn't show any woke shit in the trailers and I expect them have tons of woke crap in their next game but will market it as a normalfag game.
>>728875741What was conceptualized? What was drawn from these outputs? All I'm getting is this nebulous AI vitriol with no examples of anything. I need quotes from employees>"This tool helped me come up with this concept that we later developed in more depth for the game."or>"This tool was a waste of time and money, but we were trying to see if we could get some use out of it."
>>728876440you seem to have confused me with someone who gives a fuck about you
>>728876550Feelings mutual then, luddite.
>>728876040>vast majority of people against AI are left leaning as they see it as an affront to the liberal arts>larian studios and BG3 especially are extremely LGBT friendly and left leaning>they slightly step out of line and there is now controversy and articles made every day Leftist infighting objectively exists. Leftists are extremely ride or die people. You are seeing this right now. Just because they are an extremely vocal minority doesnt descredit whata going on.Most people dont care, but there is very much still vocal opposition to this. There are people trying to cancel larian over this. You go make a thread on reddit right now saying "i support larian's use of AI" and just wait for the responses you will get.
>>728869248fucking hell. Larian as depraved as always.No wonder leftards here are projecting new narratives how the right are bad.
>>728850945BG3 is wokeslop.The only cute female in the game has an option available to cuck you. The female romances with actual good personalities are all hideous, a standard writing protocol of wokeslop writers.
>>728875741If you read his interview more, it seems more like he is explaining the pre conceptual phase more than the conception phase.Um but you are kinda an ovwrreacting faggot still
>>728875952That's what happens when you have almost no competition and can charge whatever the fuck you want. The closest game to factorio is even more expensive.
>>728851735No wonder Zenimax blacklisted his rat ass.
>>728876898the earliest stage in the process is one of the worst times to use gen AI. you presumably want your ideas to be original and unique, or am I wrong? the only thing gen AI can give you is something directly derivative of everything else that's already been done 1000s of times. that's not what you want poisoning the well before you've even started.
>>728877023That is still kike behavior. How is that deserving of respect? You sound like those journalists that say GTA6 should be $100+
any qrd on this retarded drama?
>>728866275>if I comply with everything they want while privately disagreeing I'm winning because i'm "infiltrating"I know you're shitposting but there's conservatards that actually believe this lol
>>728876761bs, look at /v/ for the right side. Of course you'll say that it's all leftists who hate AI which is just coping. there's no point in discussing any further here, you're denying blatant reality and decided to manufacture alternate reality that you choose to believe instead
>>728851735wow maybe the guy who hid the sexual abuse at blizzard so he could write book on it and called anime fans pedo isn’t a trustworthy guy huh
>>728850945BG3 is woke but wokies always eat eachother.
>>728876148I don't care they didn't care desu. >Yeah but you gotta understand most people will.gonna be honest most people are retarded. I don't care what they think, i will ostentatiously state my opinion and they can either cry about it or not care about it, but I will ostentatiously state my opinion
>>728877498BG3 is not woke. Woke needs to be made by woketards and Swen has proven himself based
>>728850694Only transexuals hate AI. And only retards do not understand that AI is everywhere. If you use a spellchecker to write an email, that's AI.We, the people of /v/, all love AI and understand its potential. We need to accelerate.e/acc
>>728850694Would it be irresponsible? That sounds like a sentance for the shareholders.
>>728877186Brainstorming is the best time to use AI because you are just getting general ideas down to gravitate towards and explore with your own human self.The alternative is using it later down the line where the distance between AI creation and human creation thins. The worst case scenerio would be where one is just raw pasting AI creations with no human input at all towards the end of production.
>Paying devs is pesky business>We will be purchasing UE5 assets from now on>We will use the preordained color palette>We will sell you what we find in the dumpster>You only have yourself to blame. Away!
>>728850694all of this public freakout about ai use feels EXTREMELY reminiscent of evolve and shadow of war, where everybody freakout of about loot boxes and mtx.... and then we got it in every game anyway. the public will scream and scream, but eventually just accept it.additionally, people are freaking out without even knowing exactly what kind of ai tools they're using. they're just tools.
>>728850694Based. I hate AI slop, but if there's anything I hate more than AI slop, it's crybaby cancel mobs.
>>728877815because it is a twitter vocal minority as always, mentally stable people don't care about it that much
>>728877548Yeah but again you shouldn’t be surprised if people call you annoying right? Like it’s one thing to not buy a game, it’s another to brag about. Some will call you a fag but most will ignore you
>>728850931>>728850848both of these. People will forget in 2 months.
>>728851078Right wingers are the only people who can make art, in fact, what you are saying is an anti-white statement, because you are celebrating the Jewish race war against Whites. Since Jews parasite off Whites and prevent White men from having natural power, that means that normal White society, where White men reigned supreme and right wing values dominated society as a natural byproduct of natural rule, White societies produced the greatest art.However, jewish people now dominate society, and they intentionally promote leftists values to harm the collective health of White society, and then they select race traitors and abnormals to create art while suppressing normal Whites from making art.
>>728851502Because you are a retarded faggot who thinks apologizing to a bunch of hostile enemies is a good idea, despite the fact that apologizing is basically giving them the green light to destroy you even further.>>728851735Hey look, a jew backstabbing a White guy regardless of similar political views, its amazing how often this happens in history.
>>728877363>Vincke does an interview with notorious kike game "journalist" Jason "Gas the Whites" Schrier>Gets asked about AI and gives an answer tha amounts to "mite b cool, people can try it out if they want, we'll still use real art in the game">Vile Semite Schrier writes his article declaring "Larian Boss Doubles Down on AI!!!">Screeching retards online start playing chinese whispers until Vincke is accused of sacrificing all his artists to apppease Baphomet or some shit>Vincke responds by calling the accusations bullshit>More screeching>YOU ARE HERE>The drama will be forgotten about by new year
>>728850868It boggles the mind to think that anybody actually carries a chip on their shoulder about bear sex
>>728878861>white man trusts a jew enough to have a conversation with him>instantly regrets ita tale as old as time
>>728878970>assigns racial identity to his sense of honorThis has never bitten any culture in the ass before!
>>728851735Why is Schreier trying to sabotage Larian though?
>>728879162This eceleb did a good job explaining whyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emTHn2s0LJ4
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>>728879162never thought I'd see leftists attack their much loved Baldurs Gate 3 developer, yet here we are.
>>728879162Anything for clicks
>>728850694Of course he is. Do these libtroon boycotts work for anything ever?
>>728855008>Gamers want qualityExplain the last decade.
>>728880253>libtroonI'm putting this word on top of the fridge, you can have it back when you show responsibility
>>728879752eventually they always get eaten by their own people
>>728880335AAA is not every video gameIn fact by its nature it is an extremely small proportion of video games
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>>728880374Ok libtroon.
>>728879162Why is Swen?
>>728880676
>>728874796Factorio price complainers are the lowest of the low. Every game has fucking 7 expansion packs for $5-10 plus microtransactions, but no factorio is the bad one for charing once for base then later releasing an expansion. You are dogshit. Kys post haste
>>728880560>only realizes while playingleave it to a generated comic to pretend it's not on display before shit even releases, as it's been with nearly everything trying to slip it in like a horse pill
>>728880898Yeah the thing about expansions is I can choose not to buy it and still have the base game retarded kike
>ctrl f + saa>2 resultslmao, larian really cucked them
>>728880971People literally didn’t care or even notice for E33. When people found out, most didn’t care and then these patched it out. Now that it won all these awards. They said they used AI again and then everyone lost their shit. Most don’t notice or care until it’s some reactionary hit of the moment event
>>728880560why do rightoids not understand the concept of having principles? it literally breaks their fucking minds.
>>728850694more than half the posts in this thread are made by AI
>>728881723I think you don't know what that means.
>>728881723Wouldn’t you shitting on a game regardless of how much or how little they use AI undermine the real work behind. Like E33 for example a lot of work was done not by AI but people and you’re essentially shitting on it when realistically it’s removed from the AI aspect.
>>728881723Principles are when you give me money, not when you actually hold to your own ideas of virtue and right.
>>728850694No matter what side you're on this only encourages me to get back into pirating. Gen AI will be pushed more and more into creative work and and they will still charge 70$. Maybe the game can still be fun despite looking like muddled together slop. Honor among thieves.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXbzktx1KfU
>>728881996someone's opinion doesn't undermine their work they did that themselves by outsourcing it to a chatbot. i'm sure backlash from using AI was factor into their decision to use it so what's the issue?
>>728881723It's just browns.
>>728882170A lot of AI advocates are completely obsessed with the idea of "getting a free pass" on the use of the technology and they know their decision is wildly unpopular, provably detrimental to the creative and workflow processes, and they're not doing anything but inviting scorn and scrutiny against their company, but THIS TIME will be different because WE have the mandate of heaven (if only those stupid fucking peons would see it) (stop glaring at me when I put another entry into the slop factory) (I'm going to tell Microsoft on you and then you'll be sorry)
>>728882170Because the game isn’t made by one person but multiple people at different points of development. You essentially reducing actual work done by real people without any thought or knowledge it was even affected by AI.
>>728881723Where is your principles on eating meat at the cost of horrific trauma and genocide of animals?Where is your principles on enjoying cheap goods like clothes and electronics made from overseas child slave labor?Devs using a digital tool to finish a fucking video game faster is nothing to draw lines in sand and lose sleep over. You're the digital equivalent of "gluten free" hysteria. If you dont like digital tools, stop buying and playing all digital goods because everyone interested in making money on the planet is using digital programs to "cheat" in some way, including AI
>>728882352Sounds like the people using it should be aware they're putting everything up on a crucifix, and it isn't the backlash's fault that there's backlash.
>>728850694He is a retard who I disagree with but I respect people who do not back down easily.Your opponents will hate you anyway, so if you do end up going down at least you do down with dignity. Even if he turned shit around and apologized for being a big fat bear fucking faggot, I would still dislike him.
>>728882453so I'm allowed to say that inhumane treatment of animals is bad and that child slave labor is bad but I can't say that AI is bad?
>>728851221Because I don't care they do it
>>728882459No the end result ultimately is that if you’re so head strong about it, they just won’t tell you
>>728882531Then they shouldn't crash out when their product gets discovered to have AI in it and gets branded as such, what the hell logic is this?
>>728882523you can say inhuman treatment of animals bad, but you can't say the meat tastes good when you don't know about it and bad after you find out about it. well, I guess you could, but in that case you're not talking about principles you're talking about your unironic personal delusions and inability to properly perceive reality
>>728882523Thats not was said, illiterate anti AI retard. Now turn off your OS right now and make another one from scratch because the devs that made it used AI too.
>>728852143He's a Jew.
>>728882634people are saying it's bad that they used it, not that the game is a bad game. we're talking about reality and things that actually happened, not your gay little comic.
even on /v/ we have swarms of hypervigilant troons waiting with baited breath to brigade any topic about AI and bitch
>>728882634Man who believes horse meat entering European markets as beef is a personal problem and not deception + poor handling
>>728850736A degen scalie.
Anti-AIs can never win principally because they don't know what they're talking about
>food analogy
>sex analorgy
>>728882786>can't argue against a food analogy
>>728882616The issue is they don’t crash out, the only actually AAA dev to get mad about this was Swen and that’s because he was being forthcoming about it for its potential use in a future project. There are multiple games that have used AI successfully and even when found out they just ignore the noise and the issue dies down in a day or two.
>>728869040He's a Jew in media. Nothing can damage him, his nepo-circle will protect him at all costs
i've been taking in all the arguments recently, and anti-AIs are legit woman-brained to the max. that's the only real way i can describe them, and they probably have zero imagination
I think maybe Swen is just really retarded and boomer brained. He's the type of guy texting slop memes to everyone he knows and thinks it's the coolest thing ever. He probably had no idea there were people who thought different lmao
>>728882913>There are multiple games that have used AI successfully and even when found out they just ignore the noise and the issue dies down in a day or two.man what a crock of shit, even call of duty couldn't get away with it and that game has actual mandate of heaven or it did until microsoft got its hands on itits actual problems aren't purely AI, in general the latest COD just kinda sucks, but nobody "forgot" about the lazy studio ghibli AI used
>>728882729we're not talking about whether or not it's deceptive, we're talking about whether or not it's good. it didn't magically transform like you live in some kind of consensus reality after you found out you'd been deceived
>>728882698How is it a bad tool if it resulted in a good game? What the fuck are you retards arguing for? There is nothing unethical about using tools. Do you want warehouses to stop using forklifts?
>>728883119Stop selling me horse meat as beef.
>>728883191>How is it a bad toolhow are you this illiterate?
There used to be only a few people here who defended AI. Why there has been a sudden increase of them? What happened?
>>728883191>if it resulted in a good game?Ascribing its success to AI isn't a particularly good argument
>>728883191How can child slavery be bad if it resulted in things that I'd like to buy?
>>728883228I will NOT read!I WILL comment off-topic!I will JACK OFF to AI hentai!
>>728883058Yeah people made fun of CoD but so what? As you said it’s just a footnote to its real problems. How about Arc Raiders? AI voices, they did that for their first game the finals. it got like a day on twitter then no one cared. They did it again for Arc Raiders got a few days on twitter then no one cared. E33 it got zero days on twitter when people found the texture then no one cared until it was brought up again 4 days after it won like 9 awards. The point is that the end product is what matters. So if the product is good, whining about the AI stuff becomes noise. Noise that gets drowned out
>>728883268>why am i being gatekept?all of these AI bootlicking threads are completely pointless with those claude pokemon threads around showing how fucking bad LLMs suck on a daily, even hourly basisthey're the biggest fonts of OC /v/'s had in years just because people are having a good time bullying the LLM
>>728883305sounds like it's a good tool then, though?
>>728883409> E33 it got zero days on twitter when people found the texture then no one caredthey removed it almost immediately after it was found, that was not a thing they only did after geoff keighley took E33's entire french scrotum into his mouth
I think it’s obvious that anti-AI people are just losers coping and seething. I’m not that happy about sloppification but it’s obvious where the winds are blowing.>muh ai bubble!The economy has never been real. The bubble will never burst because logic doesn’t control the economy. We are getting AGI or all of you, myself included, are dying in the attempt to achieve it.
>>728851735Based Schreier, Belgian woketard deserves it
>>728883268/v/ has always been a pro-AI board. only discord troons and redditor brigaders have ever seethed about it, and only because their social media cliques have been telling them to
>>728883305Except AI isnt human and is just a tool. Would you rather studios exploit cheap labor in 3rd world countries? Because E33 just showed the world that AI assists passionate small teams to make AAA games without being beholden to megacorps. You can make a AA game with AI help right now and top Steam charts.
>>728883582I’m a tranny and I love AI. But I transitioned in the 2000s so I’m not part of the weird AGPhile movement that surged during Gamergate out of male guiltAI is inevitable. Intelligence isn’t special. Biology is malleable. We get full transhumanism with people with chips in their brains or we go extinct. Thiel might be a monster but they’re unironically correct that transhumanism and AI are checkmate for the rest of the world once you achieve it.There’s a reason why China is going HARD on this shit, risking WW3 to get an chip assembly line independent of the west. They are not stupid.
>>728883502Doesn’t have anything to do with my point. They didn’t change it due to massive backlash. They changed it because it was never meant to be there but it became public knowledge they used AI and people forgot. So much for a “brand” it wasn’t even a sticking point when it won all those awards. Most complained about UE5. It wasn’t until days after when Larian started getting shit on that people complained about it
>>728883926>they didn't remove it because there was backlash, they removed it because people noticedyeah that's backlash, idiot
>>728883295And downplaying its success because of AI makes any sense? Have you ever taken your car to a mechanic, had it fixed, then told the mechanic "it doesnt count" because he used a modern scanner tool to communicate with the engine computer and figure out the problem? Anti AI arguments hold no water its literally all emotional hysterics.
>>728884001It’s not or everyone wouldn’t have literally memory holed it dumbass. The fact it was only one texture and it was instantly replaced means it wasn’t meant to be there. At this point it was a bug fix
>>728884157>It’s not or everyone wouldn’t have literally memory holed itoh god you're so /v/-brained>it isn't brought up every day forever so nobody remembers it!!!!!!did you know super mario bros 2 was called "doki doki panic" in japan??????????? WWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
>>728884237It wasn’t even brought up until days after it won the awards
>>728883228There is nothing unethical about using a tool to make a product. You have yet to prove AI is bad except appeal to emotion (fear, "soul")
>>728884319demonstrably false
>>728884381>There is nothing unethical about using a tool to make a product. There is plenty unethical about trying to sell hammers as an alternative to an impact driver. You've never held a tool that isn't attached to your nutsack I see.
>>728879051schreier hid the rapes at blizzard because bobbby kotick was a jew
>>728884389>post from 7th months agothanks for proving my point that literally everyone memory holed it because there was zero backlash
>>728884614you don't have a point, you believed that the point of contention being removed was "memory holing" it
>>728884485Except impact drivers werent replaced. A new tool was added. Stop making blue collar bros sound retarded. Or maybe you're a retard counter guy at a supplier chain who wants to sound like you're "one of us"
He is obviously right
>>728884673No my point of memory holing it is that literally no between like 3 days ago and 7-8 months when they patched it care. Hell you’re hard press to even find an article about it when they did patch it let alone anyone from 7 months ago angry about it
>>728884993>Except impact drivers werent replaced. A new tool was added. No! Hammers cannot do an impact driver's job. Please do not pretend they can. Please pick up a tool for once in your miserable NEET life. Build a porch. Start low and build a bench. Decorate your room and hang a picture. Please, God, I'm begging you. Learn what tools are. There is no one-use tool.
>>728885220A carpenter doesnt reject new tools. Stop larping liberal retard you're cringe as fuck.
>>728876262I have no idea, but I'm loving it. I still can't believe /v/ decided that BG3 wasn't woke even though it ticked pretty much every box.
>>728877594>BG3 is not woke>bro fucking animals is based!>so what if there's gay sex in the game, you don't have to do it chud!>sure every woman has a man's jaw, but that's hot bro!Really activates my almonds.
>>728885660it didn't tick every box.what happened was a bunch of retards fell for a decent shill campaign by desperate trannies who NEEDED something after concord failed that would allow them to pretend "go woke go broke" wasnt a thing.
>>728885774you are samefagging on your phone to desperately claw back the narrative because your anti-ai crowd undid months of effort to claim the game as "yours" for the sake of playing pretend on 4chan.its hilarious.so much effort, so much posting and shillingundone in a single day by corporate jealous unleashing your retards upon larian over their success.
>>728850694>AI is mentioned regarding the coding which is the most time consuming, labor intensive and most demanding in skilled and expert labor so no throwing illiterate Indians at the problem part of the development process.>Retards keep coming out of the woodwork screeching about art positions, which have none of the issues of the coding bottleneck in the first place. Why?Is it just the usual sharpening of the weapon for the next spam campaign of accusing a small indie dev or artist of AI because some landwhale, negro or tranny is jealous?Or maybe just the general illiteracy epidemic?
>>728885985>to claim the game as "yours"Why would we do that? It's a game that celebrates ugliness made by a company that celebrates ugliness. Them being eaten by their own is utterly hilarious to me, and I love AI all the more for granting me such sweet schadenfreude.
>what? no we'de never use ai in our project>we are using it just for internal powerpoints because that's boring stuff>yes our artistic team is using ai but only as reference, the games themselves will have no ai>we are exploring using ai in our gamesyou are here>of course our game uses ai
>>728886176>retard tries to play dumb>fucks up and starts out with "we," outing himself as part of the tranny shills>deletes their post>reposts the EXACT same posttalk about spilled spaghetti
>>728881363Shut up. You are a false flagging kike. Go be stupid somewhere else
>>728877594>BG3 is not woke.
>>728886382Retard, I deleted it so I could reply to the correct person. I'll use "we" because it makes schizos seethe. Your beloved company that appeals to fags is now hated by said fags, I did nothing, lmao.
>>728886583You replied to me both times after I posted twice in a row.You then shut up for a while as you frantically tried to come up with a cover story.And the best you got was ragebait.Sorry dude. Larian is now le ebil rightwing fascist company.
>>728881723projection as usual
>>728886703>You replied to me both times after I posted twice in a row.Great, but this isn't Reddit. I wanted to reply to a specific post.>You then shut up for a while as you frantically tried to come up with a cover story.Huh? Cover story for laughing at Larian crashing and burning? For what purpose?>Larian is now le ebil rightwing fascist company.Considering who it's fans are, I'm happy they think so.
>>728885403>A carpenter doesnt reject new toolsSure they do nutsack, if they didn’t there wouldn’t be carpenters at all they’d just be injection-molding plastic. Carpentry is already a “dead art” that can be replaced by far cheaper automated processes. Sure, the end result is shitty plastic furniture nobody wants, but since we’re talking about shitty stuff nobody wants but corporate America loves to foist on us anyway because it costs 0.1% as much to mass-produce, I’d say the parallels with gen AI are perfect.
>>728886882Larian isn't crashing and burning because a handful of your crowd is crying, dude.
>>728887052A carpenter doesnt reject new tools that help complete their job. Again, stop larping. Everything you type screams redditor who put together ikea furniture pretending to be a tradesman.
>>728887052Might as well jump in:Nobody is using injection molded plastic to build a house.You are retarded.Definitely not a carpenter, either.Carpenters largely use nailguns wherever they can to avoid having to use hammers.Its not a dead art, its common as fuck and not going anywhere because wood is STILL cheaper.You don't know shit about what blue collar carpenters do lmao.
>>728880560>genericmspaintstrawman.jpg>got 'em
