Newsletter is outhttps://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/winter2025/
so chapter 5 in april?
Suselle is badly written and Susie needs to tel Noelle to fuck off next chapter
>>728855360But she’s in love with Noelle?
>>728855423Then i'm not playing the next chapter
>>728855035>"THE SIZE OF MIKE'S ASS"HOLY KEK
>>728855035God, to think I'm gonna have to wait until next summer to play this new chapter
Give me a tldr I can't read
>>728860032spamtenna is canon
>the festival>Toby contacting Hussie>Toby making Homestuck-related deals (him being in that pilot likely wasn't nothing)Penumbra Phantasm imminent
>>728860032TL;DR:the video is about tenna telling "mike" how depressed he is after spamton disappearedalmost done with chapter 5, busy making it readable for japs, starting playtesting in januaryestimated release for chapter 5 is "several months from now"shopkeeper theme reveal
>>728855035REALmikegods... where is he? there WAS a real mike
>>728860032Chapter 5 soonSpamtenna canonToby and Hussie still friendsToby uses Hussie to determine when ideas are too dumb to function
Post theories for the festival, the more schizophrenic the better
>>728861741ALL IN on an asgore meltdownsnowgrave berdly WILL wake up from his coma
>>728862194>Battle against a true gamer
>>728860032Pluey was implemented (into the canon).
Mike is a nice guy after all?
>>728860286If the final boss is penumbra phantasm i will soi irl, shameful but true.We already got nightmare knight with black knife
>there were fags saying kris wasnt playing songs from the future, he only knew the church song because he plays there, and that the others wouldnt be in the gameFUTURE(which is really the past) chads CANNOT stop winning.
When you get to the light at the end of the tunnel and look back at the journey you went on, was it all really worth it?
>>728855035We shall see if Chapter 5 really is a "game contains hours of fun!", Tobias.
>>728863171Timeloop chads can’t stop winning
DECEMBER HOLIDAY RAPED ME BEHIND THE TREE
>>728861741Kris railroads you into taking Carol to the festival. Another soul separation segment where we get to spy on Kris and Carol scheming.
>The past dictates the futureAnother victory for Twin Peaks gods.
I'm one of the guys that refuses to touch the game until all chapters are out. Is there any broad estimate of when this will be yet?
>>7288644812028-2030
>>728864481Yes you are the only person ever who has said what you just said, and no one else ever has said this before in any Deltarune thread.
>>728864653I think you're an ESL or something. I never implied I was unique. >>728864504That's fine honestly.
>>728855035>>728860032
Once again Toby let the fanbase's memes seep into the game and influence it into getting changedBet yours and my ass that if people didn't call that one fursuiter Pluey we would not have this new scene with Tenna
>>728855035>best part by far of chapter 3 (s-rank room) wasnt even originally plannedtoby is a fucking retard
>>728865114Everything about the Michaels is fanservice, it's fine
>>728865347Imagine how ass ch3 would be without the mantle game
>>728860357>Toby and Hussie still friends>Toby uses Hussie to determine when ideas are too dumb to functionThe ideas he proposed are such Hussie thing alright, ahaha.Can't wait for some silly time travel mechanic to fuck everything up in a perfectly predetermined way.
>>728865347Yup that explains ramb being the only one you cant recruit and how poorly written ERAM as a whole isThis also means the big ass 3 in the weird route page (spamton sweepstakes) was a lie all along, he had ZERO intention of giving us weird route shit
>>728865703>and how poorly written ERAM as a whole isbut people (especially edgefags) keep sucking off that little vermin
>>728865347I'm glad toby added the weird route and stuff, but yeah he clearly wasn't going to add it in his original draft back when he only had chapter 1.The weird route is the only reason I didn't drop the game back during chapter 2, so I'm glad he changed his mind on that and makes me dread what the original version of the game was going to be.
>>728860357>Toby uses Hussie to determine when ideas are too dumb to function>the guy who decided to say that one of his female characters fused with her dog which REPLACED her vagina and womb with a dog dick that she then used to secretly fuck and have a child with her husband's "lesbian" sisterToby literally could not have picked a worse person for this. I'm going to preemptively prepare for Toby to ruin shit, I'm not going to let myself experience a Homestuck tier disappointment again.
>>728865114Holy shit the TV World song that we got is so much better than what it could've been
>>728865703What's eram?
>>728866472Did not mean to reply, my bad
>>728855035>toby's actually gonna put in more interactions with tenna that i won't get to see since i gave him to mettatonfuck...
>>728866338The Chapter 4 soul section in Noelle's house was originally going to be one big puzzle but they couldn't come up with an idea that was fun and workable. Toby was so desperate he reached out to Hussie for suggestions, who proceeded to send him something so fucking stupid that Toby realized the whole puzzle thing was a stupid distraction and cut it to focus on the story and atmosphere of the segment.Toby has been learning from Hussie's mistakes since the Homestuck days, he wouldn't be the guy he is now if Hussie wasn't such a colossal fuckup.
>>728860032Kris is the knight
>>728861741Roots invade hometown foreshadowing that you're still in>My world
>anons ITT coping that the Hussie segment was some kind of veiled insult and not just "haha look at this funny thing my friend Andrew came up with!"you guys get really weird whenever Hussie gets brought up
>>728860357>Andrew underatood that he is noelle and tobby, kris>Kriselle irl became canon
>>728865703>that explains ramb being the only one you cant recruit and how poorly written ERAM as a whole isWhat?>This also means the big ass 3 in the weird route page (spamton sweepstakes) was a lie all along, he had ZERO intention of giving us weird route shitWhat the fuck are you talking about?You understand the "original concept" here was from like 2020 or even earlier, right? What do you think that has to do with a teaser released like a month before the game actually came out?
Kris is just like Laura Palmer.
>>728860357>Toby and Hussie still friendsThis should not have been surprising to anyone.>Toby uses Hussie to determine when ideas are too dumb to functionThis is not what happened.
>>728866946>Toby was so desperate he reached out to Hussie for suggestionsToby reached out the Hussie because the Holiday House is already littered with Homestuck references, you secondary. Of course he's going to ask his friend, the creator of Homestuck. Nobody put a gun to Toby's head and made him contact AH.
>>728867208>the Hussie segment was some kind of veiled insult Not like insulting Hussie would hit very hard, not after the dog had him raped in game
>>728866697>makes a game with a bunch of little choices you can make that have consequences>makes the absolute time consuming slog that is Chapter 3If he doesn't add a way to fast forward or skip through this shit I'm just going to be doing one or two playthroughs and watching the rest on YouTube. Couldn't even let us skip shit on Snowgrave when he already did that in Chapter 2.
>>728867654>not after the dog had him raped in game???I swear /v/ lives in some kind of alternate reality
>>728867709Noelle is his stand-in, or so the (schizo?) theory goes
>>728867709Just joking around
>>728868003so this is ZUN right?
>Toby has had Deltarune on his mind since before Undertale and has been working on the plot since 2016, with it being pretty much completely finalized since some time between Chapter 2 and Chapter 3>Toby is making shit up on the fly because he does not even know what to do with the plot (thus why he asked Andrew Hussie for help) and keeps changing it based on the whims and responses of the fanbase (and some times even after a chapter has been out for a week(*cough*the thorn ring scene*cough*))You gotta choose only one fact as the one and definite truth, you cannot keep switching between the two like everyone's been doing.
>>728868003It's gonna be ZUN innit
Where can I get a definitive collection of things supporting time loop theory?
>>728868003It's ZUN
>>728855035>Haha, I can't believe only 6 months ago you only had chapters 1 and 2 and in 6 months we'll be working on chapter 6ITS BEEN 7 FUCKING YEARS TOBY DONT FUCKING PAT YOURSELF ON THE FUCKING BACK.
>>728868143>>728868185>>728868267Do we really think ZUN's old drunk ass is learning GameMaker for a cameo in his drinking buddy's pet project
>>728868003i'm not ready for papa ZUN's wild ride
>>728868143>>728868185>>728868267>>728868359>>728868369>your collective faces when a full name is revealed and it's some Western literal who (just like what happened with the producer, remember when everyone thought it was gonna be Sakurai? lol)
>>728857776
>>728868328I mean, 7 years for 5 chapters. Mathematically that is pretty good.
>Special thanks to...Edmund McMillan
>>728868495>it's one of the Yiik devs
>>728868495>everyone thought it was gonna be SakuraiYou should stop talking to teenagers on Twitter or anyone else retarded enough to believe Masahiro Sakurai was going to make an indefinite years-long professional commitment to wrangling Toby's adult day care
>>728868003could this be the omega flowey guy that showed up on the last anni stream or does he not code
>>728868750everdread or w/e? i think he just makes art but you never know
>>728868706>"b-but Toby and Sakurai totally are BFF's now because Toby hangs out with him!"That had always been the excuse everyone had in their minds to try to explain how the producer of Deltarune would be Sakurai, stop trying to deny that because even in here everyone believed that
>>728868706if sakurai was actually on the case the entire game would have come out in june instead of just 3 and 4
>>728868183>Toby is a hack because Deltarune was not divinely revealed to him in its complete perfect form and he put an Amogus joke in Chapter 4The specific nature of puzzles and japes in each Chapter and the goddamn funny Mike room of all things is not "the plot," you are a moron if you think anything of substance is just being made up as it goes along
>>728868578It's pretty bad. Larger games have been made by one guy in that time.But most importantly, going, "Wow I'm working on the game so fast!" 7 years in is dumb.
>>728868919>everyone bought into the mass hysteria so uhhhh they weren't retarded actually!!!I thought this mindset would have died after the hilarious display at the game awards but
>>728868985>Larger games have been made by one guy in that time.name one (1) game
>>728855459Prepare to never play Deltarune again. Toby loves his lesbians and his favorite animes are probably mahou shoujo with heavy yuri undertones like Nanoha and Madoka.
>>728868985I don't think it's "Wow I'm working on the game so fast!" I think he's just relieved that development has turned the corner and the actual ending of the game is in sight
>>728869078Every interaction they have is one-sided and awkward. I don't see it.The scene where kris pulls her in to protect her from mini kris is probably the strongest indicator that it's not going that way.
>>728855125I doubt it. I expect it to only be completed around July or August.
>>728869073Maybe not literally 1 guy, but a team as small as or smaller than Toby's current team>name one (1) gameAll PC (MS-DOS) and 4th console gen games which were all developed in 1 year and using archaic programming languages and mathematics hacks (think of the Tycoon games and DOOM)
>>7288644812029. At least that Gaster/Forgotten Man prediction.
>>728865114The mikes are at least decent,
>>728868003It's going to be Zun.
>>728868206please respond
>>728867139Personally I think Roots is just about the shelter, with maybe some sort of World Tree mythology reference, and Flowey will only be in Chapter 5 as the weeding bouquet darkner.
>>728868578it would be if he was making it alone, but now he has a big team and professional connectionswhy the fuck is it taking so long
>>7288685788 years, most likely. Than 11 for 7.
>>728868206no
>>728869659A lot of it is based on Undertale and the fact time loops were heavy in that game, an unused intro of Susie telling Kris to "wake up" at the start of the game, Kris having a SAVE file at the very start of the game that we overwrite, and now knowing future songs like the shop theme.
>>728868919The other reason was that Sakurai said he'll be busy with some unnamed project for the next few years. But yes, it was incredibly wishful thinking. I don't really care who the producer is, seems like he's doing a great job.
>>728869552if he doesn't want his body explored, he probably shouldn't call carol
>>728868985It's kinda clear by now the biggest hurdles in Deltarune's development have been Toby now actually knowing what he was doing. From the shoddy ass coding of chapter 1, to trying to change the engine back in chapter 2, to the dev hell that was chapter 3, it seems he had far less clear ideas planned out beforehand than we thought initially, but now he finally managed to streamline the development and we'll probably get one chapter per year until the end
>>728870108>we'll probably get one chapter per year until the endNot like there is any excuse for this to not be the case by now, unless his mom dies or something
>>728869697>why the fuck is it taking so longToby bit off more than he could chew and was trying to make 3-5 at the same time.
How far can you get?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_tRTG1cWH0
>>728870108Yeah. He's had the creative details mostly locked down for a while (the important stuff at least), but he doesn't have the chops to make something more complicated than Undertale by himself, but he's also bad at managing teams. And he realized both of these things way later than he should have. At least he course corrected properly, otherwise we'd still probably be waiting on 3 and 4.
>>728870108>it seems he had far less clear ideas planned out beforehand than we thought initiallymy understanding was that he had the ending planned out (thanks to the dream) and maybe a few plot beats but not much else, just from that i'm not surprised it's been a shaky road along the way
>>728870339Multiple repeats of this fanonGOLD.
>>728870108>we'll probably get one chapter per year until the endThe translation/porting/bugfixing process alone has been taking ~6 monthsThe only reason we're getting Chapter 5 so soon is that it was being developed alongside Chapter 3 & 4, they have not done shit with Chapter 6 yet
>>728869932Thanks. I didn't know about the unused Susie intro.That's a little disturbing. Now I wonder if Susie is the one actually singing Don't Forget. >>728869824faggot
Wait so chapters will get released one by one from now on?
>>728870351I'm sure there's a more ideal version of what Deltarune was supposed to be inside his head, but it's better to release something good enough than never release something perfect
>>728870108thistoby makes amazing games but hes a fucking retard at managing everything, we should be waiting for chapter 6 right now
>>728870846I forgot to mention that in Chapter 4 Susie says she doesn't want an ending and she wishes each day was like the previous one.
>>728871205>Deltarune is actually about a loop that saves the world by avoiding the worst tragedy>The point of the story is being a loop that you can't actually break but it's the preferred outcomeCould that really deliver?
The Knight is...
>>728870434Toby has had ideas for a lot of the game for many years and developed them (we have concept art and music for specific scenes in Chapter 3/4 going all the way back to 2015 or earlier) but the process of making an actual outline/design document for the entire complete game beat-by-beat didn't happen until after Chapter 1 was published and the development team started coming together in 2018-2020.And planning doesn't mean things won't change when you have to actually make them, of course. Toby explains how Chapter 3 was originally substantially longer because he thought players would be able to get through the board games much faster, but this obviously was not the case, so the team broke up the boards for pacing and cut back Board 3 significantly. And the Chapter STILL dragged on for too long, so Board 3 was cut entirely despite being essentially complete (wasted dev time and resources) and the whole back end of the Chapter was streamlined and re-arranged to make it work.
>>728871492Asriel wearing a helmet
>>728871492Asriel's college girlfriend, Chara
>>728871492Kris's rapist, Dess.
>>728869659nta, As a note the savefile that got over written was changed to empty in the latest updatesWe still don't know what does that mean for the plot
>>728870327Why did he want to release 3, 4 and 5 together in the first place anyway
>>728871492the demon heart that's crying which possessed dess
>>728871492HOT
>>728871492Steve
I want Kris to marry Ralsei and Asriel
>>728869670most likely, at most we're getting dreemurrs previous kids as flower mentions or something if tobby is feeling generousI like "my world" as the hunginged response for the "it was all a dream" scenario, flowey not quite mocking us this time, maybe angry because we took away what he really wanted
>>728871775I assume because 6 and 7 will be weird. My theory is that we will play as the Vessel in those two chapters.
She will become the most important female videogame character of the decade
>>728855125lol no
>>728871005>Wait so chapters will get released one by one from now on?Probably. If you've bought Deltarune you've bought the whole game, the price won't be increasing and future Chapters will be free updates.Chapter 5 is releasing on its own (after originally being meant to release with 3+4). We don't really know anything about Chapter 6 yet, Toby has barely acknowledged it and probably won't say much more about it until after Chapter 5 is out.If the original plan of releasing 3/4/5 together had happened I could imagine 6/7 releasing together too, and there might be good story reasons why Toby would still want to do that. But at this point I think they're more desperate to just get the fucking game done and released, Toby didn't want it to turn into an episodic game but he's been TAKING TOO LONG and that pretense is pretty much gone now.
>>728871983I also think the flowers will mirror the human SOULs in Undertale, yeah. Toby has been using Deltarune to expand on parts of Undertale he barely explored.
>>728871492Sex
>(There was no S-Rank room in the original concept)Toby, are you implying the guide to access the evil route was implemented laterTobert, are you implying that the weird route might be an afterthought Tobias, are you telling me cheering in a chair the suselleslop was the only route possibleRobert fox, are you telling me the tragickino of two friend getting closer in the worst way possible plus the meta elements was added laterI don't know how to feel bros, like i'm happy that he decided to add another route and while shorter, it's really well made but man
>>728871778So, Kris's soul possessing Dess's frozen corpse?
>>728872341We just have to trust the dog.
>>728872341It's not unlikely.Genocide wasn't even mentioned during the anniversary stream, despite being one of the most iconic aspects of Undertale. He might not actually the twisty fucked up routes of his game that much.
>>728872341I mean, just because the S Rank room didn't exist doesn't mean that that route didn't exist. It could've just taken on a different form in one of the other boards
>>728872341Ch1 flopped and Ch2 is the most popular to dateTobbias games need contrast, getting stuck in a forced "cute" game is not fun
>>728872341Maybe he didn't want a guide to it at first
>>728872341The weird route and the shadow crystals only existed after Chapter 1 was done. They aren't like genocide where Toby always thought of it.
>>728872456that's retarded one of the coolest things of both is how mysterious they are and how it sort of feels like something the game isn't normally supposed to be doing in a diag(b)etic way if he mentions either one it takes away from that
>>728855035Secret door
>>728872341The WAIT may be agonizing but I have no doubt that the Deltarune we're getting is infinitely superior to the Deltarune that would have existed if Toby and Temmie had somehow miraculously made something work on their own in five yearsI fully believe that the Weird Route and all the innuendo we've been getting about "only one ending?" is the result of Toby's own reflection on the work that's taken up half his life>The story, it became so grand, so overwhelming,>Some say it swallowed up the author himself.
In the event the guy from here was yesterday, you can't talk about You Know Who because a mentally ill retard thinks he or the people that like him are responsible for making him a total faggot and he'll freak out for the rest of the thread.
>>728871775likely for flow reasonshell, 3,4, and 5 wasn't even the original planbefore ch2 came out it was supposed to be included too in one big batchthe 4 year wait after ch2 wasn't supposed to happen, people weren't supposed to get as schizophrenic about the ending as the didcan you imagine if we didn't get ch4 with ch3 after that ending? insanity and years of shitposting over what kris' deal with the knight was and people claiming that ch4 would be the bunker genocides thanks to mantle
>>728872341Nah, he just wants it to be a hintless creepypasta
>>728872341I find it kind of weird when someone’s main selling point of weird route is shipfagging
>The only song that doesn't spoil something is some melancholic shop themeCh 5 is going to be 99% Dess, Freedom, and Asgore leitmotifs.
>>728864481Like early 2027 probably
>>728872748we will enter the mike hole and we will talk with mike the real one the one and only mike not these fakers
>728872897This poster will be flushed when Chapter 5 comes out together with his Sonichu OC btw.
>>728873361Pluey SEX indeed.
>>728873361Giant JPG microphonebros, we WON.
>>728873470
>728872897Notice how nobody up to this point has believed you were important enough for a you, Yagifag.
>>728872642This sticker existed before chapte 2 so the weird route was planned for sure but maybe in a smaller scale and not enough for a alt route, the shadow crystal yeah probably they were just extra bosses for fun>>728873083I know, but also the main route is filled with almost unskippable romance, can you blame me? plus i did say meta elements like the SOUL controlling Kris actions and Kris not liking it
>>728860032Prunsel confirmed
I noticed the Hammer of Justice piano sketch he posted ends right before FREEDOM would start.
>>728873128https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G8DcaGegM0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMfro9XfU1whttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk8EQW0TJ3U
>>728871492chill as fuck bro, come on in and have a brewski
>>728872748I'm going out on a whim and saying good old Grandpa Semi is coming to Castle Town after we collect the eggs and he's gonna live with the Michaels back there
>>728855125delayed
Andrew? Andrew Hussie? Is that you?C-Can you help me bro i'm out of i-ideas
>>728873636This sticker came out in 2020 which was when Toby finished the full game script. He probably had the weird route conceptualized then, but not at Chapter 1 per say.
>>728855125He said several months so likely fall/winter.
>proceed appears in ch. 1 when you talk to noelle for the 1st time, he absolutely had weird route planned
>>7288644812050
>>728866697>giving him to trannytonwhy would you do thathe will posess the tv, killing tenna
>>728874414>yes. ask.that's not weird route, that's just being blunt proceed is never an option with noelle in ch1
>>728874771he got it wrong but it is interesting that the option to be aggressive/assertive with noelle was always there
>>728866697And that's why Toby released the scene in the newsletter for you to see! Actually a lot of people probably won't see that scene in game.
>>728875202kris has always acted differently with noelle compared to, noelle even comments that it's strange kris is so talkative in ch1 if you keep talking to her in town
>>728874414Noelle notices something is wrong with Kris even in ch1 so it was for sure planned, i mean more in the concept era before he even was making UT, probably an alt route was too much for his small programming skills until he got a team and say fuck itAnd of course we will never get answers because he almost never mentions UT genocide and for sure it will be the same in DR
>>728875705
>>728875869KressGOLD...
>>728871492(you)
>>728855125Septemba during anniversary stream
I am down bad for the deer mother and daughter.
>>728855125Hard to say, you would assume the pacing would be faster since >a: less content overall to test>b: prior work in previous chapters making it easierBut Toby is a retard. His producer is clearly doing the lord's work however so its not impossible.
poliamory theory
chapter 5 is about the consequences of NTR
>>728874394it'll be a summer release around june/july, i don't know how you get autumn/winter out of "several months"
I NEED TO BE MOLESTED BY DESS THIS INSTANT
The team probably spend half the time figuring out how the fuck the engine works because it was too late to switch engine until Gamemaker themselves had to help them by adding a new feature that separates the chapters as their own game, making it easier to develop and now they are finally releasing another chapter in record time
>>728876578Kris x Asgore x3
>>728875759I feel like that's because Noelle noticing (you) was always going to be a plot point. Her talk with Susie in Dess's bedroom is all about how weird Kris is being lately.
>>728875705The Pizza Hut one killed me
>>728876578>ME x Carol ftfy
>>728869394And yet no Deltarune was made by one guy in the 90s.
>>728876583>The team probably spend half the time figuring out how the fuck the engine worksNot how game development works. Generally, you hire people who already have experience in the engine you're using. Even if none of them knew how to use Gamemaker, it's stupidly easy to use and it wouldn't take very long to get anyone with a little experience situated.
>>728855125April is too optimistic, I'd say as soon as June, likely August or later. >>728861741A good time will be had by all until Rudy has a medical episode and between the Knight, Susie, Kris, and maybe Noelle, all of them retardedly open fountains at once and cover the whole town in darkness, leading into a Mother 3 style gigachapter of having to seal each one for 6. >>728876413For Ch4, 'content-complete' and the last few blusky posts about testing (a couple weeks from the release date announcement) was about an 8 month period. I'd say with less things to test on all platforms, no need for the gamemaker function shit, and the fact that we're not waiting on it being part of a console launch, we could probably shave a month, maybe two from that wait time, but that still puts it for Summer of 26.
>>728876920Neither Deltarune or Undertale were made by one guy, smartie
>>728877103we know that 3&4 were forcibly delayed for the switch, the chapters themselves were likely done as early as march/ april but delayed until june
>>728876578Kris x Toriel x Carol
>>728877195source?
>>728871492heh that thumbnail looks like Kris is farting
>>728872341maybe you could find the S rank room content in the game tenna gave you, like when he goes away and you can see what's in the northern part of the second board
>>728877450The Knight is Kris's fart...
>>728875869There isn't going to be grooming in this game, man, they aren't going to up the age rating.
>Kris knew about soul removal even as a little kid>Carol has a soul fixation>implication that dark worlds were opened before, and they need a human soul to be sealed>Dreemurr house cupboard: (cookie cutters for gingerbread monsters and gingerbread humans.)>Holiday house cupboard: (In the cupboard are... cutters for gingerbread monsters)>only in game appearance of Dess happens to be in the exact same scene which shows Kris with fake horns>shoes fit for hooves found alongside Asriel's retainer (meaning they could be Noelle's)>normal human shoes in Dess's closet (admittedly weak evidence because these could be Kris's shoes and Dess is a freak)Kris and Dess are brother and sister. Kress is incest.
>>728872897Oh thanks, I won't ask anymore then.
>>728877160Name 10 games
>>728877707sounds right up battler's alley to me
>>728877707You don't have to convince me, I was already on board beforehand.
Battler in DeltaruneWhat changes
>>728877329He made that up.
>>728871775Because he knew he would start charging money for the game with the release of the new chapters. He want customers to get a substantial amount of content for their money. If the game was 100% free from start to finish, Chapters 3 and 4 probably would have been released separately.
>>728866697Wait how do you know it's Mettaton in that house?
>>728855035I just want Krusie route, Tobert. Don't fuck it up
>>728877707Dess isn't human. Toby isn't adding a human girl in his games. You have to be content with fanart.
>>728877723Shut up, samefagshitter. Of course you respond to yourself after I call out how pathetic you are.>inb4 screenshot proving nothingWe already know you have a laptop and a phone you samefag with. Kys.
>>728855035Can someone remind me on how many save file differences there are? Webm related, Asriel's drawer, the Tvdinners, anything else?
>>728878346Don't reply to him, just ignore it. Once Chapter 5 is out people like him will be flushed out by actual game discussion.
>>728878320this, the fact dess has a confirmed gender and isn't they/them is the main evidence she is a monster and not a human
>>728878391There's a bonus key in the first board in the second slot
>>728877707>Jumping through several non-existent hoops just to create another incest shipBased
>>728877707>Kris and Dess are brother and sister. Kress is incest.Stop trying to sell me on your meme ship
>>728878515Gendered humans only exists in the real of IMAGINATION.
>>728878391>webm relatedWhat the fuck does Toby mean by this
>>728855035The fact the 2 most shilled pairings are homosexual (Spamtenna/AlphysxUndyne) means that it's most likely a damage control after Suselle gets subverted in chapter 5. There is absolutely no build up or development of Suselle while the fact she has forgotten Susie on Weird route means it's some surface level attraction at best. Or something outright forces Noelle to be attracted to Susie like the Soul does with Kris in Weird route
Why does everyone in town want to fuck her?
>>728879050>Or something outright forces Noelle to be attracted to Susie like the Soul does with Kris in Weird routethis has been my crack theory since chapter 2, that there is another being forcing the story to go down certain paths opposite to gaster
>>728879114oh, you know...reasons
>>728869552>calling in a threesomebased
>>728879050Toby shills Spamtenna because of the fujobucks and it's something he can actually shill that women love that won't nuke his career, which he couldn't do in Undertale's days.
>>728878940You can't just have your weird-normal-wathever route savefiles in any slot to get the true-true-true ending
Kris Kringle...
>>728879173Might be FRIEND disguised as Jockington. It would have to be someone from the class in order to make Noelle this way
>>728863171for some reason i had it in my head that the only song kris plays that wasn't in the game was sevenfour
>>728879114Only Kris, Noelle and Berdly
>May actually be a frog.AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!
>>728879343Toby already said you don't need to complete all SAVE files.
>>728860210>>728860357>spamtenna is canonam I fucking blind? where are people getting this from?
>>728872341I do not trust the dog.
>>728879597>Producer sama is a frogTobby what the hell does that mean
>>728879050I think it's better if you just admit there's been some obvious development in Suselle(most of it being whenever noelle is onscreen in normal route). It's just absolute ass.
>>728879430Is it gay to want to fuck kris
>>728872456he did in fact mention it twice>Why do all the bosses of that other route have one glowing eye>when you kill in the anniversary game, it says "Have you learned nothing in the past 10 years?so, worse.
>>728879597OLD MENPRODUCING DELTARUNE
>>728879858People are exaggerating because we got more lore drops. The actual answer is that the Tenna x Mike x Spamton throuple is canon.
>>728879968Depends on what you see them as.
>>728879597this damned frog...
>>728878391>pink, cyan and yellowany hidden meaning?
>>728879050You're expecting too much broskie, at most they could get a conflict but that's itAlso you have to remember, Kris is the one preventing Kriselle happening for reasons we don't know yet, it's lore relevantAlso CHRISTMAS GUYS CAN YOU BELIEVE IT
>>728880596>pink, cyan and yellowAdditive color?
>>728880694He’s probably distancing himself so Noelle doesn’t feel bad when he dies
>>728880694KRIS is the most relevant to KRIS-MAS. He was named after the Messiah
>>728880596first thing that comes to mind is the dw colours for kris, susie, and noelleremember that noelle's battle icon is yellow
>>728880973I think he is distancing himself to fool the prophecy and sacrifice Susie instead of Noelle. It would make sense why Kris would work with Dess. Her motive would be saving her younger sister. Susie is a nobody to anyone in Chapter 1. No parents not friends, nobody would miss her and Kris bullying would stop. Thats how Dess and Kris justify it.
>>728881324What would you guys even do in Kris situation>betray Susie, the best tomboy you ever meet and see her dieor>betray your childhood friend and her sister you were raised with, the one who sang you "don't forget" lullabyLast chapter going to be TOUGH if there's no third option
>>728881807Sacrifice the girl you’ve been ‘friends’ with for 2 days obviously
>>728881153Kris is the Anti-Christ, actually.
>>728881324>Thats how Dess and Kris justify it.Dess and the conspiracy? YesKris is clearly very flakey on it though, even the knight is questioning his loyality. He clearly likes susie a lot (as a friend or whatever I don't care about shipping)Not really a unique take but he'll probably sacrifice himself instead. NO ONE WILL SHED TEARS FOR HIM
>>728881897if timeloop theory is correct they have been together for much longer than with dess
You are the dancing queen
>>728881897>Kris keeps protecting Susie to keep her alive long enough to sacrifice her to bring Dess back
>>728882003I doubt he’s been looping for 10+ years
Kris is the Virgin Mary.
>>728855125Every UT/DR release is supposed to come out in Fall, Nintendo just pushed Toby to release 3 and 4 in Summer for Switch 2
>>728882123They can suck all the dick they want and still be a virgin in the eyes of God
>>728882041she's doing the tenna boss fight dance
Team Cherry completely finished Silksong in 7 years and will release a sizeable DLC soon afterWhat's Toby's excuse?
>>728882269>theythere is only one kris
>>728882386minigames are pain in the ass to make
>>728879968>t. Asriel
>>728882386Toby's excuse is that he is actually making a good game
>>728881807Kris made his choice
>>728882429You're right, she's one of a kind
>>728882096I really doubt because Kris does seems to geniunely like Susie but damn that would be a fun twist
>Lower level reality is deterministic>Outside actor/Metaphysical beings from a higher level of reality can interfere with its deterministic natureThis game is very occult
>>728880973She probably can work around it
>>728882386Choose one of the following options at random:> Bum wrist(s) (+forever months)> GameMaker needs to add X/Y/Z feature/s (+1-3 months)> Need to fire useless devs and hire new (useless) devs to ideasguy into adding pointless minigames to then just get all scrapped (+1-12 months)> Slow translation team (+6-12 months)> Slow (other thing) team (+2-6 months)> Busy with side projects/busy fucking vtubers/busy being in Japan to meet up with Japanese boomer game devs AGAIN (+however many months whenever randomly)
>>728882865Noelle if she Nothing There
https://live.tiermaker.com/51965301Please vote on which character has the fattest ass
>>728882865It’s hilarious how popular Kriselle is with women. Guess rape bait relationships are their kink
>>728882687Toby needs to stop making so many flat humans in his series. We need booba.
>>728883128asgorehe's wide
>>728881807Be loyal to Dess!
>>728880596The color of the ancient dream knights, a very hidden lore.
>>728881807sacrifice ralseisacrifice the town
>>728883486She's got this poor dude locked down. Her boytoy moves town so she mindfucks his little brother... poor Kris.
>>728883105Why the fuck doesn't he just get surgery for his hand
>>728883689Why is Papyrus knighting Kris?
>>728883486Is “you promised” his DoeK Ultra activation phrase like proceed is with Noelle?
>>728883752Kris is a member of the Papyrus Fan Club.
>>728883763>Kris has doubts again>Ol' Doelestor hits him with the 'You promised'You're joking but its blatant Kris carries guilt for whatever happenedIn a way, its hard to see Susie winning over that. Even if he does like her.
Kris is going to have a meltdown of catastrophic proportions at the end of ch5.
>>728883738Probably too afraid of making them worse.
>>728884096Why
>>728884096I'll comfort her
>>728878346>>728878474is the schizoid in th room with us right now?>inb4 "you're him"
>>728884159He will lose his virginity to Berdly.
>>728884096Yeah, it's because I'm killing her dad.
>>728884231Don’t blame him for ending the world at that point
>>728882865a flesh angel would be pretty rad to see, though tobby even giving us the chance to even have noelle as actual vessel seems uncertain>>728883267Noelle is pretty busty, is just that her sprite is pretty busy visually
>>728884096>The end of each future chapter will leave us on a Kris crashout even on the normal routeTOTALKRISSUFFERING
>>728884275>>728884172Stop pushing this shit, nigger.
>>728884159Potentially we finally kill some monsters in the light worldorTeenage drama with a sprinkle of family drama
>>728884231If it was an option i would unironically do it to mess with Kris
>>728884382go back to discord shaay
>>728876528>i don't know how you get autumn/winter out of "several months"ever heard of valve time
>>728884523>Your pronouns are already mine
>>728884328>Noelle is pretty busty, is just that her sprite is pretty busy visuallyNoelle isn't human though. Unless I missed a huge plottwist.
>>728884096Are you from Twitter? I see a weird insistence on predicting characters having meltdowns there. Is it a fetish or something?
>>728884523Feel free to kill yourself schizo
>>728880426>speedrunner>is a groomerthey speedrun themselves out their own community
Shaay did nothing wrong btwI looked at the screenshots he got cancelled over and the "asexual" guy was flirting with him, posting suggestive anime pictures, calling him pretty, but all that apparently meant he was "not interested"I guess that's the trade-off for being a bisexual, you get more options but you also get men who act like women
>728884173Nobody called you a schizo this thread so thank you for exposing yourself again.
>>728884595No, I'm saying this because play Live A Live :^)
froggits are canceled here
>>728884591right well if he did people would have a harder time buying into the pronouns stuff
>>728884173Your falseflagging is shit. Try harder, Yagipedo.
>>728884683I don't give a FUCK.
>>728883763>you promised is Kris ''would you kindly''
>>728884683Shayy was a faggot just like you.
>>728870541>they have not done shit with Chapter 6 yet[citation needed]
>>728884791>Right after the random anon defending the schizo shows up seething over FemKris starts#noooticing.
>>728884683My main takeaway from the whole debacle is that UT/DR fans are mentally incapable of consenting to sex no matter how old they are.
>>728884683I dont care he deserved it purely from how much of a fag he was
>>728884684>>728884791You faggots eat up bait like candy.
>>728884847That's just the way you have to act to survive as an influencer in autistic tranny communities these days. Hyper puritannical about the choice few subjects like loli/shota porn but immediately accepting of any LGBTQ+ stuff, yadda yadda, water is wet>Captcha: 50Y
>>728884684It's just so sad constantly seeing him be this desperate for attention.
>>728884968This sounds like discord dramawhy don't you people do that there? instead of here
>>728884787True, which is why we are cursed with flat humans. Or blessed depending on your tastes.
>>728884968
>>728884540has toby ever said "several months" and it's taken longer?
>>728885063Chapter 5 WILL flush all the schizos out.
>>728885428One can only hope, unless we get more janny faggotry like in June.
>>728885489I think the jannies gave up on that for awhile now.
>>728885248LMAOOO don't you just love seeing a tard try to pretend to be an intellectual?
>>728861741Asgore crashes out and creates a fountain in the festival. Ralsei seeing this cockblocks (YOU) by going off with Susie leading to another kris and Noelle solo section (Berdly third wheels in the normal route)
>>728885428too bad asriel psychos will flush us instead
Asgore also has a Black shard, so I assume he has the shadow crystal too. Maybe he's the schizo boss (but in the making instead of the result) and not the main boss?
Waiting for Kris to have his Oersted moment where he starts talking directly to the camera
>>728886870I don't remember dragon god doing that
>>728883132Go read any women's romance novel, it's all rape
>>728886753Our current schizo is already a goatfag. I feel like most of them will remain on /utg/. Asgore and Torielfags is what worries me based on Chapter 5 probably explaining the divorce. That and shippers meltdown.
>>728886793The main boss is the golden flower. It's the literal flower man that is trapped in an asylum (trapped in a glass cage and forced to listen to Asgore’s mad ramblings).
>>728887384>current schizothere are at least four here currently, all of whom deny being schizos
>>728887491I can buy that, but what baffles me is how people think it's just going to be flowey.
>>728877707Can humans even naturally rip out their SOULs? Feels like Chara’s plan would be a lot less fucked if she could’ve just yanked out her soul without the whole violently shitting herself to death thing first
>>728887616List them.
>>728855035I don't like how much Toby is suddenly pushing these diamond head guys. It's very forced.
>>728887731Yeah, it's obviously not going to be Flowey because he won't share the same personality as him due to not being Asriel, just a random flower.
>>728883738might not be an option depending on the condition
what if Kris becomes Q from Street Fighter??!?!
FUUUUUUUUUUUUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRKKKKKKKKKKK
>>728887050until they like it!
>>728887837I assume that's a Kris's only thing because otherwise Undertale's story just breaks. It's probably the "different rules" Toby mentioned awhile back.
>>728888287Very cool, now let's see her dodge and parry AOE frostbite spells next.
>>728888265https://youtu.be/EKTNmd9DE_k?si=Y_JmaXCBvpJ2E07X
Where is Onion?
>>728888287Rudy is so cool...
>>728889345We don't talk about Onion-san around here pal...HE WAS WHACKED! HE KNEW TOO MUCH!
>>728889585I HATE READINGSPECIALLY THE BOOKS
>>728889345why did daan turn into a pedophile