AI is the future
>>728859146>Nu-Falcom pretending they do any workThat's some slow ass AI if it takes 10 minutes to copy paste
The piracy will be the future.
>all weebslop will now be AIHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ITS FUCKING OVER HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>728859146>slopmakers embrace more slopwow, im shocked
>>728859146Almost like everyone who actually tried it admits it's useful for some things
>>728859146tasks like what?
AI haters are genuinely mentally handicapped. Devs don't make everything by hand since the 80sOf course, if you're a retard, AI will suck. But that's for every tool, it needs someone that knows what they're doing and not rely just in one method Indie tards suck up roguelikes with procedural general yet hate AI when they're the same shit
>>728859146Funny how they never specify what exactly gets done quicker now. Alas it's still a good excuse to replace people with jeets.
>>728859978>Alas it's still a good excuse to replace people with jeets.explain
what tasks tho? These faggots never explain how AI actually makes shit faster with specific examples they just vaguely allude that it does somehow.
>>728860059trade secretsIf they told everyone, other companies might copy their techniques and use it to get ahead of them
>>728859758Don't be antisemitic Anon
>>728859284This. You have to be the most retard goy slave to buy media in 2025.
Technically, when you insert a code to the software, he's the one doing the job, not you. Therefore every game isn't man-made
>>728860059Iterative generations for speeding up concept work. I drew a character, threw it into an AI, had it generate a few variations of said character, and took bits and pieces from those variations that I liked and worked them in to my design. It skips the part where I have to look up design references gor 3-4 hours.
>>728859978You mean it's a good excuse to replace jeets actually. Why hire low quality jeets if one jap and AI can do the same job?
>>728859146If we get good games out of it that aren't obviously ai, I don't really care. The tools to create should always get better. It can be handled properly.
Cool, let's see this task that used to take three hours now being done in ten minutes.
>>728859146Wasnt their latest releases the biggest slops in the companies history? The ys game is also the most unoptimized piece of shit for how bad it looks
>>728859146All eastern 3d models are exactly the samejust like how all an*me girls are the same.Using soulless AI wouldn't even be noticeable compared to the soulless trash they already mass produce
>>728859146>the what's and Y'sI hate the guy who wrote this so much
>>728859146You're literally taking job from the trans community you fucking CHUD
ITT: another partisan AI thread that is made because you feel no guilt or shame in scuttling your humanity
Falcom Devs needed 2 to 3 hours to CTRL+C and CTRL+V stuff?Grim
>>728859146they used AI to translate the Trails Remake and it was great
>>728859146>2-3 hours more for useless meetings and office bullshit Let's go!
>>728859146Aw sick, production increase, so people will have to work less hours, right?
not like falcom's games can get any worse at this point
Why is everything in IT now called AI?
>>728859290yea, easier work
>>728863918People who cant live without social interaction desperate for attention. These faggots will never become astronaut
>>728859284You’re pirating AI slop? Have some standards.
>>728863918IT always was about automation. Nobody is writing every line of codeAI is the logical conclusion and somehow that makes people seethe beyond belief
what a terrible time for me to get into ys
I hate that Japs are so accepting of AI, when it should be them that should be the most anti of AI.
>>728863918AI is the new tech buzzword to get rich
>>728864276AI translations are saving the game industry. Accurate faithful translations and no money going to troonslaters. Trails in the Sky got AI translated and it was great and the shit people were bad about were made up fanfiction
>>728863918because we're synergising ai solutions off the blockchain with generative technologies
>>728864270There's never a good reason to replace a person whose willing to work with a fucking robot.People like you will bitch about all the homeless suddenly on your street and then advocate for more garbage like this. Ignorant.
>>728859146Falcom already spends like 5 dollars making their shit games, I don't see how the quality bar can get lower.
>>728864270Considering that this shit is poised to wipe out a majority of coding work that people put themselves in debt to learn and that people will likely be starving in the streets while the government puts its fingers in its ears and pretends everything is okay, the fear and seething is a little bit justified.
>>728860047>fired people because "AI" can replace them>turns out "AI" isn't actually intelligent but useless bullshit>hire low cost jeets to fix the "AI" mistakesJust look at fucking M$, that's exactly what they're doing.
>>728863918Retarded, ignorant suits buying into the latest hype cycle as they always do.
>>728864519>>728864718>muh replacementFuck off, you don't give a shit if your shoes was made by a middle class man or outsourced from China with child slave labor
It's nothing
>>728859146>we have to spend less time on doing these things to make the video gameCool, so the games will be cheaper now then, right?....right?
Falcom is so creatively bankrupt that their recent games might as well be AI
>>728860047AI isn't real,behind your prompts are jets working behind the shadows
>>728859146Yeah, I don't give a shit as long as it looks good.
>>728859146Then the games will also be cheaper, right?
>>728865452This is not the same scenario you fucking retard. This shit is going to cause unprecedented levels of unemployment, like to the point where the choices are either UBI or massive amounts of war until the population gets thinned out enough.
>>728866531Oh ok, NOW you're up in arms about getting replaced. Should have listened earlier.
>>728866269to be fair AI could write a new coldsteel game
>>728859146>>728865963These retards really are desperate.
>>728866531AI will never replace anything, it will displace people and fail at its task and then magically there will be no one to blame :^)
>AI to brainstorm scenariosBros, we gotta feed the information bank with Rean cuckold fanfics
At this point, does anyone at all doubt that these headlines are marketing spam?
>>728860623Who's (((he)))?
>>728866859Could design the characters too
>>728864195I'm only doing it so they lose 40 dollars every time I do so.
>>728859146>don’t rely on AIDie out like a dinosaur>rely too heavily on AIYou produce slopLet the free market sort it out. There will be best practices developed and new rules created so we can figure out a way to use AI to remove busy work on boring parts of the project while making sure the human touch is apparent throughout the finished product
>>728867180erm wtf is this pointing out
>>728867180I can see why Japan of all countries is whole accepting of AI
>>728859146Are they gonna use AI translations over troonslations?
>>728859146Nice! Can't wait for them to pass the savings over to me! 50% cheaper games here I come! Fuck off.
>>728867364What they should do>run the script through AI>fix any errors caused by hallucinations>fix any extremely clunky/impossible to translate dialogue into the nearest English equivalent >if there are any Japanese cultural references that 99.99999% of westerners wouldn’t understand you should edit it but keep the unedited script on a settings toggle so giga weebs can enjoy itTell me why this wouldn’t work
I'd be more interested in these AI time-savers if games got better because of them, but vidya still overall sucks nowadays.
>>728859146They say it's for brainstorming on the story writing although the translation was a bit jiffy. If it's true, unless there's a human touch at the end of it I guess that's okay but when they say 10 minutes that's almost red flag like they most likely gonna shove us AI fanfic slop to us.
>>728859146All i have to say to this is that id like to see a drop in price, SURELY if they spend less time and cost in developement that game can be sold for less, RIGHT?
>>728859284how when everything will be on a streaming service?
>>728867843The writing is these anime-type games is so shit you probably wouldn't even notice. Also, the Japanese love cookie cutter stories anyway, they're basically built to consume slop.
>>728868764Yeah these type of games rely on overused cringey tropes. Annoying as fuck but I get used to it cause I've played them very often.
>>728859284how will you play anything when computer parts have their production lines shut down?
Anyone have The Reandown?
>>728869763>he wants the quick ReandownHaha, guess it's time to not hold back...>orphaned and adopted into a Noble family>final student of a legendary swordsman>secret son of the mysterious big bad who's actually good>such a chad that he not only adds every woman to his ever-expanding harem but he makes all the men wet too>his sister and her friend (who is the royal princess)'s vaginas becomes waterfalls at the sheer mention of his name>chosen to pilot an ancient super mecha>masters and can fully control his *psh nothin personell kid" demonic powers>wields a tachi (a better version of a katana) and can teleport behind you>beats one of the most powerful swordsmen in history that's hyped up in trails in the sky>grows up to become a teacher, can romances his underage students>just saying "haha" makes everybody drop their pants for him>uses the power of friendship to defeat the true antagonist interdimensional hatred curse that appears at the last second>even the protagonists of previous games hype him up>becomes a national hero>is technically royalty, his biological father is the reincarnation of an ancient Emperor>breaks up budding romances between other characters that were developing in the third game because everybody sucks his dick in the fourth game>can marry any girl of his choosing, will impregnate them with his chad thundercock>kills himself in a noble self sacrifice with his fujobait boyfriend to break a curse but not really because the even bigger bigger villains rewrite the timeline to get the true ending>becomes one of the strongest characters on the continent>has the option to cuck Estelle away from Joshua, Tita away from Agate, Tio away from Lloyd, etc.>tops Japanese official popularity polls, brought his franchise to the spotlight,>made it so that the majority of the franchise's games are about him>is the writer's favorite character, writer goes on to call the previous protagonists embarrassing
>>728859146I really enjoyed 1st Chapter and was looking forward to 2nd. Sucks, guess I'll have to boycott it
>>728869868Guess it's time for you cunts to go play the kino that is Xseed
>all AI is bad so games made using it must be le bad!Literal midwit opinion with no consideration for how it might be used
>>728869820Will Kiseki players accept it?>You think Rean is the peak?>Oh, my sweet summer child. Let me introduce you to **Kaelus "The God-Eater" Voidwalker.**>Hold onto your body pillows, because the power creep just went vertical.>born with a tragic backstory so sad that the doctor who delivered him immediately committed seppuku out of respect>didn't just attend the Military Academy; he founded it when he was 6, then enrolled as a student just to "experience youth">is the reincarnation of the God of Light AND the God of Darkness, meaning he is technically his own father and his own worst enemy>wields a Dual-Bladed Gun-Scythe-Katana that is actually the crystallized soul of his dead waifu (she’s not dead, she just loves him so much she wanted to be his weapon)>has a passive ability called "Narrative Gravity" where cutscenes from other games in the franchise accidentally play in his game whenever he walks into a room>doesn't have a "harem"; has a "demographic">his pheromones are so potent they cross server regions; NPCs in the MMORPG spin-off start blushing when he levels up in the single-player game>beats the legendary "Sword Saint" of the previous trilogy in the tutorial level using a tutorial wooden stick, legendary sword saint retires to become his janitor>pilots a mecha that is larger than the planet; the game map takes place *on* his mecha's shoulder>his "demon power" isn't a curse, he just holds back 99.9% of his power to not crash the game engine>the villain’s master plan turns out to be just trying to get Kaelus’s autograph>can romance the female villains, the male villains, the monsters, the shopkeepers, and the dialogue text box itself>his main rival is the protagonist of the previous game (Rean), who shows up just to hand Kaelus his wallet and apologize for existing>mogged the previous cast so hard their character portraits turned black and white
>>728869820where is the>raped by a girl in a cave.this Reandown is outdated.
>>728859146There is literally nothing wrong with this.
>>728859146This will filter the most annoying people on earth from the fanbase so I'm fine with it.
Who knows what they mean with this. Everything that's slightly automatic is now AI.
At this point I'll just be sure to pirate everything from any dev that's not openly anti-AI.If they're gonna save a buck, then so am I.
The amount of post-2010 media I currently consume is already extremely limited, guess 2025 will be my hard cutoff date.
>>728871765I just pirate shit in general if there's no online component, can't imagine paying for modern slopgames
>>728867180I honestly think the character designs in this series are really good overall (pic related), but there's no denying that the artist has some weird tics. Side profiles also always look really awkward in their art.
Falcom should make NISA use ai to localise their games quicker, we're like four games behind.
>Instead of spending 3-4 hours of our multi-year development cycle thinking about what we're going to do for our game, we just type "CHATGPT GENERATES US A COOL IDEA" and do that>This saves us 3 hours and has no consequences, we are very smart
>>728872754??? we're literally 1 game away and it's coming out next month
To be honest the Calvard arc felt like it was written by AI to begin with.
>>728859146>ChatGPT, write me a quest for a jrpg set in a fantasy modern day. The only important thing is that a white guy with a moustache is being mean to a non-white person>do this 100x>"Perfect.">Ships out Trails through Daybreak
>>728859146S to spit on you slopfags
>>728870429NTA but i didnt realize my pasta was staler than normal... it's ogre...
>>728860059double digit iq
>>728873594There was a story?I just remember big tiddy blonde girl who likes older men.
>>728873431>coming outgreat, more troonshit again
>>728859284I'm getting deja vu because this is the kind of reasoning people gave when discs were being phased out for digital-only releases.
>>728865963I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY WOULD DO THIS SHIT THESE FUCKING JAPENESE BASTARDSbut seriously, it's a nothingburger unless they're literally begging chat GPT to write a story that makes Van actually seem likeable and cool
>>728859146I mean look, talk shit all you want but my company has integrated Claude into our CI/CD so my team of four literally just whiteboards out prompts for new features and then feeds it into Calude. We often push to Prod in the very same day.You guys need to look beyond the funny SpongeBob videos and bad screenshots. You're getting baited by all the garbage going in. Pay attention to the quality instead.
>>728866502you'll be paying for overpriced ram sticks whether you like it or not
>>728860059Grok, compile an Excel sheet of what everyone in Teams said they wanted from Jimmy John's >Beep boo boopHeh, 30 minutes saved. Now I can scroll Twitter while on the toilet early today.
>>728874219enjoy your last year of employment haha
>>728874219I don't really care unless it means prices are going down.If you use AI in the development of your products and aren't passing the savings on to me then I know you're a piece of shit and I will just pirate or ignore your product.
>>728874029Van was likable in kuro 1 then they did nothing for 2 God damn games
>>728874528I dunno, my review this year was really good. I'm a senior level qa engineer on a team with three devs. In the first three months of using Claude I was running regression tests very methodically because I was paranoid, but I only caught a couple of small bugs that we could get fixed easily.Did a deployment at the start of the month and it went off without a hitch.I'm sure the team sizes will stay smaller going forward, but I'm already on a team with an established career so I'm safe.
>>728859146are humans... the past?
>>728868027Not realistic. Devs won't make money that way.
>>728874778>I'm slowly optimizing my job out of existence, look at me being smug about itlol
>>728859284>he isn't already pirating
>>728874778>qa engineerOh bro, you're absolutely fucked.
>>728874942lel the people who hate AI actually think that AI is that good.
>>728874778>qa>I am safeTone down on the copium lil bro
>>728874942>>728875181Agree to disagree I suppose. I'm riding the new skillset into the future. A lot of these conversations were the same when AWS and Azure were booming.
>>728874219Same. I'm slowly using AI in my workspace.Hell, I just prompt shit whenever HR asks me reports they want me to send or recognition quotas I need to fill.
>>728874219>Pay attention to the quality instead.We don't even know what kind of software is being supposedly developed here, just that something's being flushed into the void somewhere.
>>728874778Their not gonna fire you for being bad at your job their gonna lay you off and say their restructuring.
>>728859146I never understood the stubbornness to not use AI. You are on a job bro. You are paid to do what rich people want. If they want you to proompt, you proompt. Why do you care if the product becomes worse or the code less maintainable? Just proompt harder. Not your problem. You are getting restructured next year anyway.
>>728859873They're not remotely the same shit. You don't understand the problem at all.The problem is that it's just trash. It has no value. The value comes from the human mind who made it and if there's no human, there's no value. It's no longer art, it's a drug and should be banned like all drugs.
>>728859146The future... of shovelware
>>728876773>It's okay if everything you love is destroyed because uhh you can just not care
>>728876918yes
Tasks like>making a gameDon’t need to be done anymore!We can use>AI assetsFor everything! No more pesky resources! >what do you mean we’re going to be homeless
>>728876918You are not supposed to care about the job. From the POV of execs you are replaceable, so consider your job replaceable too. Do what you care about as a hobby.
>>728876918But what if the prompts ensure a consistent "God MCkun you're dick is the biggest ive ever scene +20 Infection with LoliFlatSuzusan." delivery every 50minutes ingame? as that is what seems to keep player attention?
>>728874219what a grim, unenjoyable and cringe development process
>>728877643Not really, before, you had a team of humans that might have attitudes, become ill or cause drama, among other bullshit, and you had to wrangle them to get the project done. Now, you click a button that works as long as there's internet and you paid for the service.
>>728877643Is it really more satisfying to sit in front of jetbrains or vscode with a linter extension?It might be, but there is undeniably something fun about four to five people vibing in a corner office for a once a month in person meeting.
I would rather kill myself than code with AI
>>728859146and thank god for thatthe smoothieslurpers got too comfortable sitting in a warm office with a coffee "working" for 30 min/day, getting 300k and complaining it's not 600kthe bubble had to pop eventually
>>728874219I mean you're going to lose your job but you are right, it's amazing how the entire AI debacle is distracting people from the reality of the tech. Everyone is all-eyes and bellyaches on the art and music and video side of things, and fucking video games. NOBODY is paying attention to the terrifying things becoming medically possible thanks to AI, nevermind the enormous research and development acceleration happening in all sciences. We have constellation's worth of new drug and material designs, we have genetic modification rolling on the scene, but not a single dumb motherfucker is making any noise because all AI is to them is a code monkey or porn generator.
>>728859146So less work hour means cheaper development means cheaper games right?
>>728873594That didn't happen, but Daybreak 2 was 100% written by AI, only exception being the connection events.
>>728877914until your boss realizes he can press the button himself
>>728878493Here's one legitimately interesting medical feature that AI is incredibly good at: identifying abnormal heartbeats. And to be clear, this was a promising area before GPT4 made commercial gangbusters the other year. But the AI gold rush has helped increase funding for these kinds of exploration.Water treatment is another interesting use case. And in /v/s defense, I think AI vidya is a meme and I'll always laugh at the shitty screenshots.
>>728878802Nah, he'll need at least one layer of people below him to blame for his mistakes. All execs are psychopaths and they cannot stand being wrong.
>>728878863Yeah, THOSE are the uses that have me interested and also nervous. The extreme pattern detection ability is what's so powerful, so medical data is going to go from being worth its weight in gold to worth its weight in diamond, purely because of the enormous advances it will start to make when more AI is integrated and put to use for medical research. Most of it is going to be squandered and stolen to benefit only the rich, but we're also going to see a massive medical black market pop up, especially once genetic modification makes it big. It's insane what's becoming possible in the space of years, instead of decades.
>>728878493>>728878863>>728879024thanks, chat
>>728878651Ah no wonder it's all filler.
>>728859146maybe their games will not be shit now
Man that's great. I'm happy to hear they're having to spend less time and resources in game development, when will they pass those savings onto the consumer?
...can Falcom SERIOUSLY afford to make their games more shittier???
>>728879310someone will have to pay for those ram sticks (You)
>>728879310>gibs me datDaShawn...
Niggas on 4chan be like>get a real job artistsMeanwhile hundreds of millions if not billions of jobs are completely superfluous
>>728860059it can spit out concept art by the dozens in seconds which favored ones can be given to artists. btw, something like this is a dream come true for the trade
>>728864276>the country that invented anime and msg
>>728879642don't simp for pussy nerd complainers
>>728860059Have you used AI like at all?
>>728879652How is passing in a concept for an AI to generate any more functionally efficient that google searching that same concept
>>728879767he probably didn't. this anon said it well >>728859873
>>728879767Why would he?
>>728879642yup a lot of those jobs are superfluous but were still necessary to keep the scale of economy going, and you'd need to slowly end those sorts of jobs to keep stability. instead we're going to find out, GLOBALLY, not just here, what happens when you decide to let corporations end hundreds of millions of jobs in the span of a few years, with absolutely no economic protections ready.gonna be so many dead motherfuckers it's haunting
>>728879779traditional searching will be intentionally gimped soon
>>728879779honestly, it's your faggot feelings. i'm just saying what's already being done and here yoi are wanting me to challenge and change that. see what i mean? i'm only going to tell you how it really is. i'm not trying to hurt you lmao
>>shitty low budget trash will become even more cheapabsolutely KEK
>>728879987>i'm just saying what's already being done I know it's already being done. I don't care. I want to know how exactly this improves the quality of the product, and why this pipeline specifically needs AI. It seems you're unable to answer this simple question
>>728876808No you fucking retard. The value comes from the end result product, not from the fart sniffing diva with an inflated ego who made it. I don't give a shit about your sheeting arcel ego the same way I don't give a shit a bout the chink slave who made my shoes.
>>728880184that's the name of the game for the industry, dude. you, at least, acknowledge it
>>728880184it's genuinely hard to figure out what things will look like by 2030 in terms of entertainment and the online consumer/creator landscape, it's obvious 90% of people will use AI with a lot of them pretending they're not, with a sizeable hardcore holdout of people making bespoke content.
>>728880238>he knows>but doesn't knowHe's rigjt. It's your gay feelings getting in the way of objectivity.
>>728879978has already been intentionally gimped for, what, five years now? ten? google used to be way better
>>728859290And thank fucking god for that. The trannylator bullshit is finally going to end, replaced with accurate AI translations. AI is already flawless at translating.Actually what I was praying for.
>>728880376>How is passing in a concept for an AI to generate any more functionally efficient that google searching that same conceptI know you never passed second grade reading, but this is a separate question than "is this being done". Ask your tard wrangler to explain it to you.
>>728880461That's another aspect that has me spooked and really interested in the impact; AI is genuinely excellent at translation, and with enough time spent trained on spoken language and nuance, I imagine some form of rudimentary universal translator will become available.
>>728879854Complete horse shit. I delegate tasks to 3 different AI agents just by writing tickets. Each one takes 10 minutes to process for my 5 minutes of writing a ticket. It does it better than the junior/mid level engineers I replaced with AI, for pennies. The code is well documented, self-tested, and even self-bug checked so it also saves massive amounts of QA effort. AI absolutely can replace junior and mid level code monkeys.
>>728879779Google has been a trashfire for years that only shows what people pay it to show, there's a reason little tricks like appending reddit to your query have been floating around for a long time.
>>728880461lmao retard, they will stay and "fix" and "adjust" AI translation where needed.
>>728880657I think the problem is nobody can grasp the concept of "there are a huge number of fields and subfields for these professions, and AI works great with some, terrible with others" and instead treat it like a monolithic magic bullet to a singular target
>>728859146Nice.
>>728879642zoomies were born into a world were being bored is by all means an impossibility so they have no appreciation for arts and entertainment it doesn't help that millennials are a wasted generation so zoomies have no direct predecessors to look up to, admire and be mentored by it's decadence looking at apathy for guidance
>>728880742>Google has been a trashfire for yearsby design to increase ad revenue search was purposefully made to be worse so more people would spend time searching and Google collect more ad revenue. as the center stated there was no negative consequences for conpany for doing this, and he was right . and yet people still think monopolies are good .
>>728859146How many jobs will be killed off?
>>728880853That's magnified by people using that uneven skill profile argument intentionally to push their AI agenda, both for and against. On one end you have the skeptics who use the "how many Rs in strawberry" thing to claim that AI will never amount to anything. On the other you have the accelerationist data center builders who try to use it to defuse concerns about AI getting capable faster than it's getting safe.
>>728860059You figured it out, anon, they are all lying, all the industries across the globe are in on it. They all actively sabotage their own workflows and put their companies at risk to make AI look good, when in reality, just like you keep telling yourself knowing the grand total scope of the technology as the the chat function, it actually does nothing and is useless.
>>728880657with all the dumpster fires ive had to put out because of hallucinations i'm convinced posts like this are genuine shills.
>>728881135gigantic numbers, and globally. AI is available to everyone, and people with AI are desperate to sell it and increase shareholder value. white collar jobs are fucking gone. entertainment is in crisis. the blue collar market is going to be flooded with shitloads of bad desperate labor.
>>728859146Bestelle wouldn't lie to us bros
>>728880626Have you seen the translator watches? It might be faked but they appear to work really well already
>>728881230Correct. The entire problem is that we are working from an extremely uneven and early mass-application of an unproven technology that is changing every day. It's nothing but bad data by bad actors and nothing but time and brute force is going to prove what the reality of it is. But there's been enough reality provably seen to get nervous about this entire endeavor. I'm not scared of AGI, I'm scared of good-enough AI in the hands of idiot people trying to make money and take control at any cost.
>>728881281>self-tested, and even self-bug checked>The AI investigated itself and found nothing wrong with its codeCould be shilling or retardation, it's your guess.
>>728859290Good, I hate trannylators.
>>728881543>Could be shilling or retardation, it's your guess.I think one thing happening isn't any genuine shilling, but just legions of AI bots being set loose to train themselves on being a convincing internet persona, so we're drowning on bot posts with no real way to tellwhy else get rid of poster count
as a dev my take is . llms seems useful if your scope is narrow . useful as a second set of eyes if it isnt. you still need to know code in order to catch its hallucinations or bizarre design decisions.
AI won, if you couldn't see that coming you are just too low IQ
>>728881962My take from what I've seen is that AI isn't going to replace coders, but it is going to put most of them out of a job because what will happen is a bunch of AI coding that's checked and overseen by a smaller team of humans, so instead of 100 people you only have 10 (who will be brutally overworked).
>>728881793>>728881543>>728881281>t. junior devs
>>728859146Gay guy is the future
>>728879779Anon, I know this hard to believe for you, but AI image generation is not just making a collage of existing images and it is grown the tiniest bit beyond getting hands wrong. It generates whatever you want in whatever style and format you prefer and then you can still tell it>make the jacket green and the hair spiky with red tips and move the character slightly to the rightand then it does exactly that, within seconds. You can even take a random image of a warrior fighting a dragon or whatever and tell the AI to generate a concept art page that shows this character from the side, front and back and with different fascial expression on white background and the AI will do that without getting any details wrong.
>>728881578But you love trannyAI translation with hardcoded dei alignment right?
>>728865963>look guys, we are using spellchecker in MS Word, we are so AI-enabled. Invest in us!My sides
>>728882137software development also requires actual problem solving and debugging. I dont see it replacing many current developers but what I do see is basically removing many entry career paths when all the menial stuff is delegated to llms .
>>728878802You don't understand how job position works. The boss is not gonna press shit you nigger. He has other responsibilities, that's why he hired YOU, to press the damn button and get shit done. All he has to do is manage that you press the right button so he can report it to the higher ups.The boss is never going to replace the dude at the operational level. That's not how intelligent companies work, but maybe in India boss do menial tasks, that would justify their GDP.
>>728882471i think anti-AIs have no imagination. i bet a lot of them tried it and sat in front of a prompt with their heads empty and unable to muster anything up. they realized that all they needed were their minds, but their minds were empty and failed them
>>728878802this is legit woman-brained. you guys are basically woman lmao holy shit
>>728882471>without getting any details wrong>with different fascial expression (good job ESL)lmao, now I've heard everything
>>728882692>You don't understand how job position works>maybe in India boss do menial tasks>>728882779>you guys are basically womanPost a timestamped picture of your hand.
>believe you hate cow dung>tell everyone you hate cow dung>have the most delicious yoghurt ever, very probiotic too>find out it was made with cow dungI think about this when I see all these luddites who are saying now how they hate AI
>>728882714Is this the new "Anti AI's are the real jeets actually"?
>>728877228>with LoliFlatSuzusanAI isn't allowed to do anything with loli, it's verboten.
they only have 69 employees so AI would probably help them a lot
>>728882471anon im a gooner im very much aware of the limitation gen art has
>>728882984see too much truth in it, huh?
>>728882949>unprompted cow shit fantasiesRasheed...
>>728883069>n-no u!okay lol
i've been seeing all the arguments recently, and anti-AIs are legit woman-brained to the max. that's the only real way i can describe them and they probably do lack an imagination.
>>728883175>can only describe his opponents with a vague meaningless term>they probably do lack an imaginationLmao, they aren't paying you enough for this
>>728883120it was a question. you're just showing how woman-brained you are lmao
>>728859146So if you're generating your game with AI, why would I bother paying for it?
Beep boop, for me it's Towa.
>>728883175Why would i be pro AI in this situation lmao
>>728883236i don't mind if you think that way, woman-brain :)
>>728880546Ok and? Why do you have problem with it?
>>728883249>>728883332>>728883175>>728882779This dude really thinks this is the cleverest insult of all time.
>>728882984its the jeets being replaced at an exponential level so maybe? Think, anon, think.Maybe that anon is right, anti-AI are incapable of thinking.
>>728859873>Indie tards suck up roguelikes with procedural general yet hate AI when they're the same shitWhat a profoundly stupid statement. This sentence alone makes it clear it's not even worth attempting to argue with you.
>>728883236i don't mind if you think that way, woman-brain :)>>728883250i mean, just don't pay. no need to he a woman about it. no one cares whether you personally pay or not>>728883424how womanlybring out the fucking tampons for these woman-brains fucking lmao
>>728883423>Still can't answer the questionYou can just say so, your wrangler will still love you.
>>728883424He's right. That hurt you and now you want your fellow woman-minds to help you.
>>728883250who cares, are you competing to become the new vegans of the gaming industry? Oh wait, the vegans of the gaming industry were always the piratefags, which is what you are.
simping for AI is insane, you are legit getting nothing out of it
>>728883437>its the jeets being replaced at an exponential level
>>728883446I bet they wear dresses when they post ctfu
better go quiet, you bunch of woman-brained cucks>>728883580you need vagisil
See? I think a lot of these petty arguments and comments and just bots. The point is to make sure every single thread is in a constant state of anger and outrage, to disturb chances for real discussion.
>>728883589Look up the names of the studios that fired hundreds of employees.Then look up the names of those fired.Not a single european name btw.
>>728883671vagisil
>>728883580>you are legit getting nothing out of ithe's getting (you)'s
>>728883673>umm, do your own research chud!No. You made the claim, the onus is on you to back it up.
>>728882893I will let you in on a little secret, 0.5L. I'm ESL, but the reason I forget letters or entire words sometimes is not that, but because I'm dyslexic. I tell you this because I know you really need that win, having exactly no argument going for you. Also, pro tip: If you respond in a full sentence with punctuation, it will make you look less like a retarded 0.5L coward who is too afraid of getting something wrong while insulting others for speaking two languages.
lol AIcuck has completely lost it
>>728883728oh my god lmaowhat a womanly way of thinking
>>728883789ya better go quiet
>>728883446i wish I were a woman
>>728859873Procedural generation is not genAI.
>>728864276Bro, I love their contributions, too, but do you not remember how almost all of them jumped on board for fucking NFTs? For some reason, they don't ever bother to ask why they need the emerging technology. They just jump right into it.
at this point just ask AI to come up with witty remarks for you since you clearly are a mental midget lol
>>728859146Ah sweet so games won't be $80 anymore considering dev time is a tenth of what it was right? $20 AAA games? Hahahahaha
>>728883951I know. You're anti-AI.
>>728883781>forget letters>he "forgot" that there is no "s" in the word facialSure thing buddy
>>728884145AI is for fags so your post makes sense
>>728883967Huh, do you think genAI has some divine spark or something, you don't think it's just an algorithm?
>>728884201>woman-brained
>>728883749You have Google, you have AI.Your phrase has been repeated since Plato, because back then doing your own research took way too much and was simple impossible. This is why you would say "you made the claim, back it up". This simply does not apply in 2025. Do your own research, it takes 10 minutes, you lazy fuck. We don't live in ancient greece anymore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4wzM9kcqNg
>>728884146>Sure thing buddyLeave some of that high tier education for the rest of us, bro.
>>728884265Okay, I did my own research. I have reached the educated conclusion that you made it claim up, and you're a retard.
>>728884517NTA but shut the fuck up and prove his own point for him already.
>>728859146>Company that infamously has never had any money continues to not have any money and explicitly states it again
>>728884238I think they are not the same. Because they are not the same.
>>728884780How do they differ?
>>728860059>STOP NOTICING AND JUST INVEST I-ITS JUST INEVITABLE SO STOP *sniffle* ASKING QUESTIONS O-OK?!?!?
>>728884851I am assuming you're doing this in bad faith but pretending like procedural generation is not static to the algorithms its set to is coming off as you not understanding the difference. They are different. They are not the same. This might as well be stating that "Enemy AI" is the same as GenAI because they share the same words.
>>728880241And the end result sucks. AI is boring shit that you can easily pick up patterns on because it's flawed. Plus I have never seen a creative AI work, it's just slopped out shit with no interesting PoV angles, character design, or interactions with objects.
>>728885113Brother, I genuinely have no idea what you just attempted to say to me but I do know you didn't answer my very straightforward question.
>>728870348Who?
AI better make some money.Or else.
>>728884125nope sorry, investors are expecting billion dollar profit margins. the line must go up.
>AI is the fu-ACK
>>728879509There are better games that are cheaper than their $60 (base) asking price.
>>728885868at first I thought it will be really funny when the bubble bursts and all the retarded billionaries have to front the massive lossesbut then I realized they'll just force a new war to get money backbut ultimately I don't mind Mexico finally getting nuked
>>728887046such as?
>>728865963>brainstorm scenarios and do researchBut they are just remaking games they already made.And google search already existed.
>>728887165NTA, I just finished Total Overdose after buying it on GOG for a buck fitty, and it's better than any AAA game released in the past five years.
>>728860059
>>728859873>AI haters are genuinely mentally handicappedWrong, AI haters are vindicated given Falcom's output.
>>728859146>AI voicesImagine a Trails game that has more than one voice per cutscene.
>>728865963AI has replaced the idea guy, it truly is the future.
>>728884356Worst /@/vatarfag
People born with talent are just mad that AI will finally level the playing field, allowing anyone with ideas to express them, not just the lucky few born with natural skills they claim they earned.
>save 2 hours and 50 minutes>spend 3 days unfucking the jeetcodeworks 100% of the time 30% of the time
>>728883250you're looking at it from the wrong angle retard. a team of 100 people + AI can now have the same output as a team of 1000 people without AI in the same amount of time with 10x smaller budget.
>>728866531>this is different from all those other jobs that got replaced by machines and automation because..........um.......look, just let me be mad!!
>>728859146What tasks exactly? What are you referring to? A task can be completed faster but has it been completed correctly? How long does it take to investigate the actual success of the AI task?
>>728889093Ah, so games will now only cost like a fiver, nice
>>728889191usually this means shit like "we want NPCs with a baroque look but don't feel like spending hours gathering references for and studying baroque clothing so we just ask AI to generate references"
>>728889434no, anon. the yearly labor cost of $100k per dev will still be there. they will have to do the whole nine yards but with AI it will be more efficient and final results will be 10 times better.
>>728889434lol, lmao
>>728876808>The value comes from the human mind who made it and if there's no humanYou people are just as stupid as defenders. Thinking that the only application is in copying art,
>>728889668>betterBut its not done cheaperNot out quickerNot higher qualitySo whats better?Will there be more games being made at the same time?
>>728860059art and programming are things it does like 50-100x faster than a human
>>728889162While I don't agree with shipping jobs overseas to exploit the fact that other countries comparatively pay their workers peanuts, AI is going to replace magnitudes more workers than outsourcing did. It's outsourcing x1000.
>>728868027You mean, the thing you can rip off from into a file that you can pirate?
>>728889793I think clair obscure showed what a small but extremely efficient team can pull off with very limited budget in short period of time. AI will enable this for mediocre studios like falcom across globe. this will turn China (and India) into video games superpower, free to play gachas will become the pinnacle of AAA vidya.
>>728859146Maybe NOW Falcom will be able to animate a girl stepping off a stool.
>>728859146The only people fighting AI are the people that haven't used it yet or people working jobs it can't help. If you can use AI, your productivity skyrockets.
>>728890264What do you use AI for anon?
I was really excited about modern "AI" when it came out, but after so many bad experiences now I really, REALLY hate it for anything other than goonslop (that one reached a decent-ish level at this point) and making memes. The worst experience so far was I had to work throughout the last semester on a project with a dude that did his part of the project with AI (even the fucking final product presentation) and it was the most vague, noncohesive, barely usable crap. I had to spend double the time and effort to unfuck his contributions (functional specifications, technical specifications, fucking Python server code) and even then the final program and documents were still tainted. The other teams only used AI as a coding assistant tool and their shit was impeccable.This "AI" tech enables the laziest faggots in a project to contribute garbage rather than not contribute anything. If I was one of those greedy vidya studio leads and I wanted my team members to "10x their productivity" I'd restrict their AI usage to technical stuff like boilerplate code completion, coding assistance, 2D to 3D modelling, and image genning for experimental, non-asset-creation purposes. If I caught a faggot trying to pass some slop as an asset or some unreviewed fully-slopped code as human-made code I'd fucking fire him on the spot.
>>728880657>self-tested, and even self-bug checkedlelso the LLM makes a bunch of mistakes and then tells you that it didn't make any mistakes
>>728890196And how will it achieve this?Go on, explain.
>>728866145>>728866502Erm, no, the AI deserves to be paid for their labor. $90 AI slop, take it or leave it.
>>728890718AI will keep improving exponentially my nigga. a year ago decels were laughing at will smith spaghetti video, now they can't tell for sure which is the real one.
>>728891153Actually, a year ago we had the AI coke ad.This year, we have a second AI coke ad that doesn't look any better.
>>728859146this is what artists/voice actors/writers all deserve for being annoying faggots>ermmm we are stopping all production for a year because we didn't get a 6,000,000 raise normal people should support us!shut the FUCK up
>>728891153Which is the real one?
>>728891153>>>>>decelsAnyone who uses this word is unironically a retarded shill that treats AI with a religious zeal.To them being against AI is like being an heretic.
>>728880461>ALL COMPANIES HAVE AGENDAS>but obviously the accurate right wing translations will slip through somehowRetard
>>728891440>Let's be as annoying as possible and surely that will make game developers want to avoid replacing us with AI!
>>728891153Stop avoiding the questionHow will it achieve this?>s-surely next year it-How will it achieve this?Well?Are you gonna ask it?
>>728891337coke ads were never good. I pity you if you think otherwise.
>>728891548writer and voice actor unions have been doing this shit for decades before ai existed, good try rightoid retard, maybe you'll eventually learn
>>728891525cope seethe and dial8 but I would prefer if you rope
>>728891673>Look at how much X improved, AI won>This sucks>Actually X always sucked, grow upIt unironically feels I am talking to shills in these threads. What the fuck is wrong with the """"people"""" peddling and shilling this crap.
>>728891790The big brains behind AI fandom right here
>>728859146nuFalcom makes the very definition of slop games, of course they'd embrace AI.
>>728891676>We'll be as annoying as possible for decades!>That'll make developers want to employ us!
>>728891651the answer will reveal itself
>>728890156how are you gonna rip a game off by streaming??movies i can understandbut games?
>>728859146AI = NO BUY
>>728892091You cannot buy any new game then. Every popular coding tool nowadays has AI. Even crappy indie unity games are coded using visual studio that has AI code writing and integration with github copilot.
>>728892071Cloud...Gaming...?
>>728892584yes?
>>728891962I mean just look at this image. there so many elements that are wrong, asset placement and colors being the worst offenders. there's no way in hell AI couldn't generate a better, aesthetically pleasing environment. you don't even need cursed concept artists to pull it off, just a 3d artist with good taste and AI.
>>728860059>OpenAI profit, 2015$0>OpenAI profit, 2025$0,000,000,000
>>728864131>easier work>they pump out slop faster>games are still $80
what would happen if mods banned everyone who joined in a discussion where the OP has no link to an article and they just respond to a jpg
>>728893004That would be heckin' epic!
>>7288930044chan would DIE.
>>728892746Nevermind. I thought it's something like pirating the game through their cloud server which is bullshit haha.
>>728890264>If you can use AI, your productivity skyrockets.Interesting. Companies are much more productive now, right? Like when the industrial revolution happened and made manufacturing much more efficient. But it's curious, because no one sees the consequences of the AI revolution.At the same time, people see a lot of the things they used to like being flooded with worthless shit. You can't even go to your favorite hentai piracy site without the catalog being 99% AI renders made by people with no taste whatsoever.
>It finally happened>We don’t have to make games anymoreIt’s hilarious seeing these headlines>This is just like smartphones>No one will ever make a phone call again!
>>728892054You say this as a joke but aifags are genuine cultists at this point
>>728859146Their games already look like they took 2 or 3 hours to make.Imagine how many fucking trails of brainrot games they're going to pump out now.It's already impossible trying to keep up with their output.
AI is too powerfulhttps://files.catbox.moe/rr0if7.webm
>>728891962>nuFalcomThey've always been quantity over quality, or rather a budget-title company. You're smoking something. May I have it?
