Is it true that this game is like Sekiro? I never played any Armored Core games before but I like Sekiro. Never played any robot games either except Zone of the Enders 1 and 2 which I thought were neat but didn't finish.
>>728862517I don't see any similarity between it and Sekiro other than the same general control scheme Fromsoft has across the board. Armored Core usually has you flying by at high speeds shooting enemies with a dozen projectiles rather than blocking, they're spacing centric games.
>>728862517no, it is nothing like sekiro, it is nothing like any "souls" gameit is mecha flavor 3rd person action slop like a darksiders or god of war or nier
>>728862517>Is it true that this game is like Sekiro?no its just assblasted autists on /v/ saying shit without having played either gamethe one thing they have in common is that they have a posture bar and the combat centers a little too much around it. in this case sekiro's posture bar is good and AC6's posture bar is frankly an abysmal feature
>>728862682I thought the comparison was weird but iirc they were saying things like aggressive enemies and posture system>>728862736Like Ninja Gaiden? I like Ninja Gaiden
>>728862736It's nothing like any of those games and is in fact more similar to Dark Souls since it at least shares the same control scheme and a lot of similar mechanical concepts like circle strafe is king.
>>728862517ac is a much better robot game than zote franklyway better story too
Not at all.
>>728862804>>728862853It's not Sekiro's Posture system it's Elden Ring's. Heavy attacks knock enemies down for a damage boost and a hard break in their actions.
>>728862970truth is fromsoft has been putting this in all their games, sek, ac6 and er were both made at the same timepeople just associate it with whatever comes first
>>728862517it has the same director and the combat system is designed on "attrition -> burst damage" but it's way more mobile compared to Sekiro
>>728862517No, it's just a very competent and fun mecha game with a surprisingly good story.
>>728862862>>728863236That sounds good enough. Do I need to play the older games first or can I go in reverse order if I like this one? I heard you have to play the original PS1 game holding the controller backwards or some shit.
>>728863436all of the games are basically separate stories. There's some shared universe stuff on the previous games but 6 is practically standaloneevery older game before AC4 (or Nexus) has dogshit controls that you can kinda get used to, but 6 controls like a normal videogame, which is the reason why it sold wellif you want to play the whole series, play the whole series. If you want to play 6 because it's a really good game then play 6. I'd say play 6 first if you're curious and then go back
>>728862517Fuck off looneytroon
>>728863436>>728863553AC1-3 don't have weird control schemes, they have tank controls. It just took them a while to take to twin stick controls like many Jap developers.
>>728863685making a shooter action game without looking at how everyone else is doing them is the kind of shit only a niche japanese developer could dobut yes it's a weird control scheme
ac4 & 5 literally had stagger systemsthey just made the way it works it more obvious in 6.the same fags who seethe about it also seethed about the acv damage triad being too complicated>>728863436play them in whichever order you like. 1 and 2 were early 3d action games with the kind of jank that entails. if you play on emulator you can just remap the controls to feel a lot more 'modern' but imo learning to master the jank is part of the immersion of learning to operate a complicated machine
>>728862517It's nothing like Sekiro other than having a posture bar.
>>728862517It's pretty much mecha souls.
sekiro 2 when
>>728862517No, Sekiro is parryslop first and foremost. AC6 can kind of be parry slop if you tailor your build to it but it's much more braindead as it's staggerslop. Imagine playing a game where the charged heavy on star first in Elden Ring is ranged weapons. That's AC6. Painting your mechs is fun though and the story and characters are good.
>>728863949Lots of games have stagger systems. Old AC stagger/stability works much more like hitstun/poise in dark souls. Saying>Look look it has a stagger system you guys see you can be staggeredis fucking retarded why is this still brought up 2 years later?
>>728862517Don’t worry if you play this you will still have not played an armored core game. It’s gimped shit that’s clearly designed around Souls toddlers who think they’re edgy.
>>728867105Go play AC4 or something, the game for actual posers.
>>728867105Armored core is just robot kings field though.
>>728862517AC: For Answer was kinoThis game is souless.
>>728862517No its nothing like Sekiro, and whoever claimed it was is a low IQ retard.
>>728867694it could be if it had maze levels like in 3 and last raven
>>728862861>Armored Core>circle strafe is king.lolno
>>728862804The only problem with the posture bar is how it magically kill momentum.
>>728867105AC6 is by far the best game in the series, the only people who disagree are V babies who never played any other game in the series and dont know what Armored Core is.
>>728867869Circle strafe and bunny hops defeats literally every enemy AC in the game
>>728867796Pretty sure one of the levels in project phantoma is literally a map from kings field. Or at least the textures.
>>728862517>>728862517No it's nothing like Souls or Sekiro it's just a Project ACEs game but with an AC skin on top which isn't a bad thing. Like I know 6 is basically the new entry for retards ro hate on until From changes the formula again then people will act like it's somehow wasn't shat on much like 4/4a or VD
>>728868057It doesn’t, every AC game has predictive aiming, if you just strafe in one direction you wont dodge anything, good job outing yourself as a casual retard who got filtered.
>>728868129AC1 runs on the Kings Field engine, but i don’t think any maps are a straight copy paste
>>728862517Just play it to found out and stop asking /v/ retard
>>728868268Not that anon but not entirely true, in the classic ones when you're one on one vs enemy ACs, circle strafing/bunny hopping while tagging them is generally the safest way to fight. I played most of the AC games recently and beat Nineball Seraph at the end of 2AA in one try doing that, despite everyone talking about how impossible he is. While you're facing multiple enemies you probably don't want to do that, but it's extremely effective otherwise.
>>728868268That's why you bunny hop. You circle strafe because enemies have a hard time turning around to fight you.
I thought aerial movement and strafing felt the most responsive in Gen 1.
>>728862517do you feel like a mecha in this game? or do you just kinda feel like a guy zooming around and everything is sized up
>>728868132I played AC7 but got filtered, does that mean I'm not gonna like AC6? I mean this shit was literally impossible
>>728868721yeah and you were quicker too. once you change the default controls to turn with the diagonals and aim with the thumbstick, your golden
>>728862517just started playing it, the music is so bad, what happened to hoshino? He is their best composer yet the tracks on most missions just sound like warbly darksouls noise. Re-playing ace combat at the same time is making me realise how important the soundtrack is to these kinds of games.
>>728868828You just need to git gud and go faster. Make sure you're using the correct loadout for the mission you're on because it does make a big difference. 6 is harder than 7.
>>728869019it went with a more environmental futuristic tone. its weird that theres not alot of tracks compared to the other games
I'm surprised at the amount of praise its getting for the story in this thread
>>728868132I haven't seen much hate for Armored Core 6 outside of this retard pit but even here tons of people love it.
nah, sekiro was boring but combat had impact, this trash feels like a mobile game port
>>728868597bunny hopping does nothing to enemy lock, if your movement is predictable you will get hit, if you are strafing round in one direction you are eating damage you don’t need to be, and no enemies do not struggle to turn.tell me you don’t play AC without telling me you don’t play AC.
>>728869019>the music is so badHoly shit you have bad taste, let me guess, you are some faggot anime weeb?
>>728868785Only you can answer that question. I've seen people say mechwarrior is too weightless and floaty and they "don't FEEEEEEL the scale and weight and heaviness enough". I've given up on caring. It's salt to taste. You know if there's enough salt.
It's Obvious Hoshino was holding back since the Disc 3 stuff makes it clear that he was
>>728862517it's the mech game of dark souls
>>728869690its not, and you are retarded.
>>728869405No, I'm an armored core fan who wants AC to sound like AC and not electronic souls. I cant even fucking hear the soundtrack its so non descript.
>>728869243The story is one of From's best and it annoys me the same reviewers who praised Souls games called its narrative "shallow" or "barely there." AC6 has some of the most compelling characters that gave come out of a FromSoft game. I haven't played the game in a good year after 100%ing it over 400 hours, and I still remember Walter, Rusty, Carla, Ayre, Chatty, Snail, and Michigan. I even remember the most one-off single appearance characters like Freud and O'Keeffe.
>>728869801damn nigga, learn what a joke is
>>728869996>I cant even fucking hear the soundtrack its so non descript.Then you're deaf or just being disingenuous for the sake of (you)s.
>>728870003Meh. I think they was pretty average schlock since I play so many other games with better stories and plots than it. What might be good in Fromsoft standards can be shit in others.
>>728869338I have literally played and beaten every game in this series.
>>728870189>I think they was pretty average schlock since I play so many other games with better stories and plots than it.If you're comparing CRPGs to an action game, I think that's comparing apples to quarry trucks.
>>728870060incredibly muted electronic warbling and rumbling in the background is not how the series used to sound
>>728869996You might actually have brain damage, lil zoomie, go seek help
>>728870416My advice is to actually play the game.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-anU1M9y88
>>728869996>I'm an armored core fanNo you're not
>>728864397Never because retard reddit troons didn't like it despite Sekiro being the best FROMSOFT game next to AC6.
AC6 OST is the GOAThttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCu93MKq7ec
>>728870482I'm playing the game which is why I'm commenting on this. The track you posted is just a souls boss track with electronic noises in it, souls has fucking awful OSTs too. Hoshino is the only good composer at FROM but now he sounds like all their other shitty musicians.
>>728870718this is bait
>>728870003It's a good gum I'll give you that. We need more games like this.
>>728870393I played Ace Combat and Project Wingman and think that they're better written and more presentable than AC6.
>>728870808Project Wingman is a poorly paced mess of a game in terms of narrative, and AC7 is infamously a three-way clusterfuck of multiple different scripts Frankenstein'd together.Armored Core 6 is more cohesive, has better characters, and doesn't overstay its welcome. The Liberation ending is one of, if not the best endings I've experienced in a From game. The fight against Snailteus into Walter is pure unfiltered kino.
>>728862517No
>>728870641that and rusted pride are stand outs everyone points to. wheres the stage themes?
>>728870751As far as I can tell AC6 having a middling soundtrack is a pretty common opinion. It was a conscious choice to go for an atmospheric sound but I don't think it works for this kind of game. Missions are short as fuck and contain fast paced action set pieces. It belongs in a souls game where you take your time exploring large environments.
>>728871047project wingman is fine. you just don't enjoy fun
Is it wrong that I miss having +50 AC in Arena Rank and how some of them are just meme or random characters you might never meet?
>>728871403https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waQqK6N6tTUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0YGUmECEj4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9PKJwQgOyghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPOixlhYxYshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxuZzw1JR60https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khOaWH1XvQMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbRbelCsrn4
>>728871667adhd riddled zoomer detected
>>728871667>As far as I can tell AC6 having a middling soundtrack is a pretty common opinionI literally do not see this opinion outside of /v/.
Just finished AC1 for the first time, very fun, wasn't expecting the "reveal" in the final mission
THE HERO HAS ARRIVED
>>728872265yeah you're right, having good conspicuous OST's is actually kind of cringe and zoomer. The next ace combat should do what fires of rubicon did and employ a composer that works like every western Hollywood and AAA musician that just makes background noise.
>>728872552Yes, the whole AI is in control of everything is a very very common theme in this series.
>>728872552Make sure to play the full trilogy. Project Phantasma is a side story but Masters of the Arena is a hard continuation to 1.
>>728872745I'll play all threeBut before that I'll play the Murakumo missions
>>728872661>t. zoomer who cant see the apple
>>728871667how can you say this shit while being completely oblivious to how good the garage themes aremaybe the early game garage theme is stale? if so i dont remember
>>728872870Your brain is so rotted with memes you cant form coherent thoughts anymore.
>>728872657Holy fucking BXSED Evil Zone enjoyerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GA9onbS67I
>>728872420https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79AF0vfvJpoAny time i open up some old AC OST and read the latest comments there's someone complaining about how shit the AC6 soundtrack is>New players often tend to jump on the BGM from 4 onwards, but 3 is the most polished. It exudes a sense of war. 4 onwards has an anime-like feel to the battles. 6 has no real identity, it's a rip-off of Blade Runner and Terminator.
>>728873630truth is you can say some pretentious ass statements for any game whatsoevermeanwhile the guys at fromsoft are literally just going "lets make different games with different styles" and it mindbreaks retards like you guyshttps://youtu.be/g0YGUmECEj4?si=gasOcskSaf1FkooZ
>>728865240it's almost identical to primal armor, you just take increased damage after stagger now rather than taking less damage w/ pa active
>>728873630>animekill yourself
>>728873920This isn't different though, its a souls OST with blade runner synths. AC and hoshino was cool because it was completely distinct from any other OST they made. Its still hoshino so its going to have interesting elements in certain songs but the vast majority are just ambient souls style noise.Its obvious it was a request from the game director to curb the old personality.
>>728874312ok so what souls ost sounds like thatlink one
>>728873630>Underage anime retardYep, called it! >>728869405
>>728874296learn to read.
>>728874312Can you please show me the souls music that sounds like ayre phase 2 except without the blade runner synths
>>728874312>its a souls OSTNo it isn’t, and you are a retard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4Vlxk4qviELuv, Gen 3, simple as.
>>728874390jesus christ learn to read, that was a quote from a random japanese youtube comment in an argument about how nobody outside 4chan thinks AC6 has a shit OST. stop talking to me.
>>728873630>anime faggotEvery time
>>728874817>spamming the same comment over and over while refusing to read ill take that as a concession
>>728874525why was everything japan made in the late 90s and early 00s so much cooler than everything after? The people making games and music are either the same people or grew up on that stuff yet the aesthetics and tone of everything they make now feel watered down
>>728874525yep, based
>>728874312I think the OST is pretty cool ad atmospheric actually going through the playlist. I think the issue is that the moment to moment gameplay is you boosting like a madman and/or blasting away like a mini deathstar with NPC dialogue layered on top makes the music fade into the background. It would have been cool if there was some adaptive soundtrack stuff on top that could kick when she shit gets crazy, and let the atmospheric stuff take over when things quiet down.
>>728875621Honestly I feel like AC6 feels a lot like the AC3/Nexus generation.
>>728873630>animeOpinion discarded
>>728870003>I haven't played the game in a good year after 100%ing it over 400 hours, and I still remember Walter, Rusty, Carla, Ayre, Chatty, Snail, and MichiAnd we didnt need a 4hour long essays about the characters motivations or lore because those games failed to give proper explanationYou understand the whole story and history behind Rubicon and the characters besides small details
>>728862517nothe sheer amount of weapon types in ac6 givees this game 20 times more diverse gameplay than sekiro
>>728862517>Never played any robot games either except Zone of the Enders 1 and 2AC6 is not a mech game.It's crazy, even a loose fast paced mecha action game like ZoE has more accurate and proper mech controls than this slop.
>>728862517AC6 is the best game in the series by far
>>728862517AC6 isn't even top 3 AC games
>>728862517AC6 is the GOAT
>>728862517Armored Core 6 is an mazing game and pretty much the only game in the series worth playing, they rest have horribly clunky controls, especially the PS1/PS2 games, though there is a mod to remove the awful turn rate from AC1 and play with full mouse aim which i highly recommend.
>>728876795the single requirement for calling something a mech game is that you play as a mech. i know the early gen ACs remind you of the good old days when the school librarian used to molest you but you're drawing arbitrary lines to account for personal preference.
AC6 is THE casual entry for newfags and zoomers who can't enjoy the way better older games. It's disgusting seeing shit eaters praise this joke of an AC game, its gameplay is absolute dogshit full of bad ideas.But good news, we're not getting an AC6.5, we'll get AC7 in the future and hopefully it will be better than this garbage
>>728878458AC6 is better than at least half the entries in the series, and I say that as someone that's been playing them since the PS1 demo disk days.
>>728878458i mean seeing how many people couldnt even beat the tutorial boss, from absolutely made the right call
>>728878458lmao old gen games were casual garbage with dogshit gameplay, AC6 is the only one with any real level of difficulty, sorry you got filtered
>>728869338>bunny hopping does nothing to enemy lock, if your movement is predictable you will get hitbunny hopping will cause most enemies to shoot over your head because they predict you'll still be going up when they fire (also it's the most energy efficient way to go fast)In AC6 a ground speed of 450 or greater will absolutely let you simply strafe out of most attacks because that's how I beat Ibis.
>>728862736wtf kind of retard are you
>>728862736>3rd person action slopLiterally the best genre of video games.
>>728879148>ground speed of 450 or greaterIf you are going to lie at least make it beleivable
do i start with new or old AC?? i have nexus, 4A, and just got gifted 6
>>728879087yeah difficulty like spam quick boost to do all the movement work for you + hard lockso deep
6 fag here, hardlock being unbreakable absolutely was a mistake.
>>728879961The lock system is the worst part about AC6, but it is breakable. Hardlock also comes with signifiant penalties. if you are playing on controller and fighting against someone on mouse you are likely going to get shrecked if its a half decent player.
>>728879778You can start with literally whichever one you want. Personally, I'd recommend starting with 6 because it's my favorite. Nexus is kind of jank and 4A is very different from most AC games in that your essentially playing as the final boss of any other Armored Core game.
>>728879797>spam quick boostYou mean like in old gen?
>>728880305dishonest retardand enemy AC barely moves
>>728871667you are arguing against underaged tourists who have never played the previous armored core gamesthey do not know what they are missing out on or what they are talking about, but their generation are physiologically forced to defend their programmed worldview to not suffer a mental breakdown, would they start to question parts of it
>>728880305old gen fags in shambles
>person who hasnt played (new game) trying to convince you why you havent actually played (old game)people are impressively mindbroken over the concept of a game series playing differently and looking differently instead of being the exact same game every time
>>728882180>people are impressively mindbroken over the concept of a game series playing differently and looking differently instead of being the exact same game every timeThis happens to every franchise that has actual integrity (like final fantasy), people will rage about them being different and have since fucking FF8.
>>728882180I very much enjoyed AC6 and thought it was the best game released that year by farbut as an armored core game it is solidly middle of the packIve never seen anyone that isnt new to the series pin AC6 as the best AC game because it so obviously isnt if you have ever played the other onesI really wish they would release an expansion for 6 so they could rectify the shortcomings and make something truly top tier
>>728883606Would you consider any numbered Armored Core game the best? I think for what it is there's a great base to build upon but yeah it suffers from part drought et al like a lot of the numerical iterations do.
>>728883606I have been playing since AC1 demo, AC6 is easy the best game in the series.
>>728883606This is bait
Kino of the highest order
>>728864397When the anime comes out.
>>728883909nope, I think they all end up suffering in some waysbut part of what I really like with fromsoft games is where it feels like they have a specific goal in mind that they are trying to explore and in armored core they end up analyzing and then try to rectify what they think was the shortcomings of their previous iteration>>728884121thats cool, you would be the first person Ive ever seen with that opinion
>>728884928well of course; the iterative expansions of AC games always end up being better from the lessons they presumably learned considering they cut out back boosters that were otherwise fairly functional I feel like they just played AC6 close to the chest and with the success of it I hope they decide to go hog wild with it in terms of story progression, mechanics and parts
>>728884928>you would be the first person Ive ever seen with that opinionHighly doubt that, its a pretty well accepted truth
>>728874296>>728874817>>728876042>/v/ tards think mecha isn't linked to animeholy retard, you need to lurk in /m/ for at least 2 years without posting
>>728885972kys troon
>>728873630OST is most old AC games is dogshit.Main theme of last raven was so fucking awful I had to mute it.Imagine listening to this cacophonic trash on repeat for over an hour while being stuck in garage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC-HQCb2RWc
baitdon't feed
>>728874817He says in a thread about one of the most anime-esque mech series that isn't just straight gundam.
Tell me why you're not using a chicken leg in your set up RIGHT NOW.
>>728888524low stability and my frame already struggles with poor stability.
>>728862804I don’t outright hate the stagger bar in AC6, but it certainly doesn’t need to be so omnipresent in everything. I get the context for a single player experiance where even then they leaned too hard, but it completely ruins multiplayer on top of it. Imagine if AC1 had it’s stagger mechanic center focused. It be the most dogshit game in the series. It’s why I kinda don’t want dlc and just want my AC 6.5 because there’s shit that dlc can’t fix.
>>728862517Who told you it was like Sekiro? Anyway there’s actually a deflect system in the game if you use those energy shields but they’re kinda inefficient and you just use them for fun.
>>728862517It's same director. but god do I hate Sekiro, AC6 completely blow it away.I think the souls garbage completly holds back Sekiro, which should have been an action game instead of soulslop.
>>728889568in what way is sekiro not an action game but rather soulslop?
>>728889194Best weapon in the game is the LRB and it ignores stagger entirely
>>728888524Because For Answer was when they were the most fun to play. Also there aren’t really cool looking ones in this game sadly.
>>728888524If I swap out anything at all then it breaks.
>>728874525>when the odds are stcked against you but you attack on kiting enemies
>>728873418Check this shit out brohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoGxQAFVPX8
>>728878809I had an acquaintance who was stuck on the helicopter for like a whole damn week. I do not understand what people find so hard about it.
>>728888524I do
>>728890456>Nacht arms>Meleenigga what are you going?!?
So question, why use armored cores on rubicon despite having access to light and heavy commanders with better weapons?most of the vespers get into one later and they are annoying to fight
