Now that the dust has settled, where would you rank Yakuza 4 in the series?
>>728863339Worst final boss in the series
>>728863339such a badly ported game, full of gamebreaking bugs
>>728863339Near the bottom of not at the very bottom. 3 and 5 were so much better. Only Pirate Yakuza may be worse.
>>728863690OG Tanimura looks better, too
>>728863339It doesn't have such a strong story, it starts uninteresting, it feels like Akiyama is a good character, or at least he's likable, but it feels like you barely do anything as him in his chapter. Saejima's has its Moments but it's still not that great and his gameplay sucks. I thought the game got real good in Tanimura's chapter, things start to make the most sense and the things that happen feel a lot like Yakuza again. I think it's a pretty good game after that.
Bump
>>728863339One of the best games in the franchise, alongside with Zero. Akiyama is awesome, Saejima is badass, and the whatshisname cop was actually kinda based. The only downside really is the forced Kiryu shoehorning.
>>728863339(I'm playing in release order)2 > 1 > 5 > 4 > 3
>>728866994Kiryu's part was good though, that fanservice moment where you go against Tanimura and Akiyama at the same time was pure hype.
>>728863339>>728863790>>728866994>Only one city and the stuff they added to Kamurocho is just empty parking garages and empty rooftops>Only Akiyama feels good to play>Story is the stupidest in the entire seriesNo
>>728868938Y4 has the best Kamurocho, all the characters are fun to play, and only plebs that haven't played 5 and up could claim the plot to be stupid.
>>728869720>all the characters are fun to playI don't really like Saejima's gameplay...
someone give me the strength to power through Y5's Haruka segmenti have dropped the game for a year now because I don't give a fuck about her storyi'm sure i just need to make it through a fee more cutscenes but i thought that last time i booted it up toothe entire game should just be the driving and hunting minigames and then kiryu dies for the nth time
>>728863339Shellfish Did/10
>>728863339Second last. 6 is worse.>>728863526True. Especially after mine. AFAIK they will let him die in 3, too. Shows that they haven't learned shit.
I've started 3 for the first time bros wish me luck
>>728863909By far. Look what they are doing to ANIKI!
>>728866994>The only downside really is the forced Kiryu shoehorning.And the small fact that the story is all over the place. Likely due to kiryu.
>>728872375Good luck, it's a fun ride.
>>728863339I dunno. They all have fucking terrible combat and aren't fun to play.
>>728872567Bait
Pretty high. Like second or third best.
>>7288633392>0>5>4>6>3>1
>>728872915Lad?
>>728872915Hmm... Yup, good list.
>>728872991Kiryu is a NPC in LaD so it's not listed.Infinite Wealth goes behind 6
LJ>5>3>1>G>0>K2>J>7>4>KI>K1 desu
>>728873912Iw has the best gameplay of any yakuza, albeit it feeling gacha at times. The story and characters are complete shit. Somehow the Chinese is as strong as kiryu and ichiban.
>>728863339I rank it after Yakuza 3 but lower than Yakuza 5
>>728874403>Iw has the best gameplay of any yakuzalol
>>728873912>KIRYUUU!!!!! How's that a reason?>>728866994>The only downside really is the forced Kiryu shoehorning.How can lad being ignored, if it's the first yakuza without kiryu as main?
>>728874403I'm playing it right now and the gameplay is fun but holy shit every time that vtuber shows up in a cutscene I want to kill myself. For some reason they gave the character with a grating voice a ton of exposition to dump on you and it's all lies anyway.
>>7288723753 is good, have fun
Why didn't Akiyama put the money in an actual safe instead of some Inspector Gadget bullshit?
>>728863339Y4 is top three for sure.I played them all except for both Kurohyous, Kenzan (waiting for the patch) and FOTNS (I'm on chapter 6).Retards get REALLY mad about the twist while they give a pass to the Y7 one. They also put the blame on Y4 for what happened to Saejima when the game that fucked it up was Y5. It's a combo of dementia and meme inertia that memory holed all the good Y4 did, not only for itself but for the entire series.
>>728863339Kiryu shouldn't have come back.>>728863909He looks too much like a prettyboy actor and not enough like a seedy cop.>>728872375What for? It's a genuinely fun game. You did start with the PS2 games, right? RIGHT?>>7288729155 > 0 > Lost Judgment > Judgment > 1 > 2 > 4 > Kurohyou 2 > 6 > Kenzan > 3 > Kurohyou > Ishin > 7 > Gaiden > 8 > Pirate
>>728878924>while they give a pass to the Y7 oneYou mean the thing that actually happens irl?
>>7288791071 over 2 is odd Indeed. Ryuji was so damn good
>>728879107My same ranking pretty much but swap 5 with LJ, 4 with 3, and I didn't play the Kurohyou games or the samurai games.
>>728880214While 2's characters are more developed I just enjoy 1's overall narrative way more. Secret koreans and the Omi infighting are all well and good but there's something about the straightforward infighting amongst the Tojo for 10 billion yen that ends up revolving around a mysterious little girl and Kiryu as this force of nature out of time that's been unleashed after a decade in prison for a crime he didn't commit that I love.https://youtu.be/RTO2Ayse8AE
BUTTERFLY CITYSUPER FLY CITY
what went wrong? how did we get here?
>>728879521KekNo, I'm talking about mirror face.
>>728880646Is pirates bad? Being Majima sounds like fun
>>728880834I think it's really funny how people piss themselves over coin locker babies being unrealistic but don't seem to blink twice about mirror face.Honestly I'm convinced people like this just haven't played 7 or they'd have a lot more proper shit to bitch about.
>>728880646Yakuza 0 and the secondary avalanche that replaced the old fanbase
>>728881664Yakuza 0 is great but because of it the fanbase is so fucking reddit, it's disgusting. And they only play 0, that is annoying, too.
>>728880646(1/2)They brought Kiryu back. Think about it. It hadn't even been one game since he was meant to walk off into the sunset. His ongoing retirement which started in Yakuza 4: Successor of the Legend, continued against Ichiban, the real successor of the legend, who debuted four games later in a chapter called Passing the Torch, where come next game, Ichiban is going to hand it right back. It's a good thing that game's called Infinite Wealth 'cause this shit's rich.It's especially bad because 6 was so emphatic about it. The guy looked into the camera and said he'd disappear. Not even *one* full game later and you're backing down from it. Same thing with Kashawagi, Lau Ka Kong, Richardson, Lee, even Joongi Han to an extent. If the series can't stick to its guns, not to mention the people they kill, why should I believe in anything that I'm told? Can I even believe what I see? That someone is shot in the head, or shredded by a minigun, or thrown off a 60 floor skyscraper, or blown up in his own van? If I can't trust witnessing a character dying as proof they're dead, can I grant weight to anything that happens? I may as well withhold my feelings indefinitely. I'd be a fool to trust you. And I really don't want to feel that way about this series. I want to give it the benefit of the doubt, but doubt always remains. It builds emotional distance. It's not fan service, it's fan disservice. It insults your audience's investment in your stories. Kiryu reappearing one game after his retirement has the same effect because it makes developments feel utterly weightless. There's another aspect of his 7 scenes which wasn't an issue on release but is today: the semi-contained nature of these titles is done. It's over.
>>728880646>>728881904(2/2)Entries like Gaiden now work backwards, heaping additional lore and context on what Kiryu was doing and why, and it feels like an unnecessary fixer job. Sequels are now far more sequential. Pirate Yakuza even ends with a 'To Be Continued' instead of the traditional 'Fin'. It's very fishy, pun very much intended. Used to be, each title worked as part of a whole while also standing pretty much alone: links between stories were always present but they were never the point. Chronology was subtle, the state of the world advanced in ways which were clever but not needed to know; they were bonuses for the attentive player and informed by the state of the real world. Character developments were similarly understated, playing out like the natural passage of time. Surprise was high as each and every entry was more or less its own adventure. At this point it wouldn't surprise me if in the future a game doesn't tie up its own main plot and it's revealed Yokoyama is pulling a Marvel multi-game main plot arc, because 7-to-Gaiden-to-8 sure starts feeling like that.So yeah, ultimately the series has changed from building off of prior entries to building on top of them. Fans didn't like 6's ending? Bring Kiryu back for another three games and give him cancer after he roleplays as a secret agent for a few years! If fans don't totally agree with a plot beat is RGG just going to start going back and adorn it with additional details until it works? I'd much rather a series just roll with the punches and focus on moving forwards rather than looking back 'cause honestly the series is starting to get stuck in its own past and losing its confidence and energy, and nowhere is that more apparent than 8's betrayal of Ichiban to focus once again on Kiryu after the torch had seemingly been well and truly past for real pls trust us guys this time.
>>728881053Mediocre game. Worth 15 bucks or so.
>>728881858>>728881904This. We should play multiple protags in yakuza, even some bad guys. If mine dies in k3, they are idiots.
>>728881904>Kashawagi, Lau Ka Kong, Richardson, Lee, even Joongi HanIt's so tiring. Everyone meets up all the time, so nothing has any weight or relevance to it. It went from crime drama to sitcom.
>>728881976>each title worked as part of a whole while also standing pretty much aloneCharacters should come and go.>revealed Yokoyama is pulling a Marvel multi-game main plot arcThis is inevitable, if the characters are op and stay for too long.
>>728879107>He looks too much like a prettyboy actor and not enough like a seedy cop.I mean, all they did in the remaster is give him a shittier haircut
>>7288633390 > 5 > 4 > Lost Judgement > FotNS> 8 > 7> 2 > 1 > Ishin > Judgement > YPH > MWEHN > 6 > 3
>>728882506Weirdest list I've seen
I wanna be Akiyama in real life
>>7288819048 undoes everything the characters fight and die for in 7, truly the worst kind of sequel
>>728863339Tanimura had the best chapter
>>728863339Tanimura is still my favorite fighting style but the game itself is wholly forgettable and would probably be the worst in the series if 3 didn't exist.
>>728883716Play 0 now, then 6
>>728882394And beard, and skin tone, and new VA. Probably some other smaller details given the face was based on that of Narimiya too.https://youtu.be/10q-ERoxoCY?t=47
>>728879107>He looks too much like a prettyboy actor and not enough like a seedy cop.The story makes a point about him abusing his prettyboi host face to coast through life. And he's half-Thai, his mother's ticket to Japan was being a pretty faced sex commodity.
does anybody really play yakuza for the plot
>>728884998Yes?
>>728884998>does anyone play the plot-heavy franchise with cinematic cutscenes galore for the plotMight as well ask if people play JRPGs for the story.
>>728884998What were you thinking about when making this stupid question?
>>728883716Haven't played the games with most meat, kek.
>>728884998Gameplay is rather bad, really.
>>728887461But it's fun.
>>728887532I love yakuza and think more games should copy their approach of asset recycling. 8 don't play yakuza for the mediocre brawler it is. Even gaiden or k2 aren't technical sophisticated brawlers. Yakuza is fun, because story, characters and locations are awesome.
>>728883923 Honestly, Tanimura's style had so much potential. The counters, the parries-it actually encouraged a more reactive playstyle, which was rare in the older games. But you’re right, 4 kind of meanders. It feels like a collection of cool ideas stapled together with duct tape. If they ever give him a proper return (not just a Gaiden cameo or dream sequence nonsense), I’d actually be hyped. Still better than 3 though, that one plays like a fever dream held together by recycled heat actions and tropical filler.
>>728889565>stapled together with duct agreeGood way of describing it. Kiryu destroys the package entirely. The corrupt cop would've been awesome. Not only is it fun to play a corrupt cop, but his style was fun, too. Refreshing, at least.
Yakuza fans are as autistic as Sonic fans, yet more hipster-y.
>>728891952>as autistic as Sonic fansHow
Which stats do I focus on leveling up bros, playing Y3 if it matters
>>728892079>lore fags>era fags>spinoff fags>designated loli character and its fags>complaining about minute design choices>noble hedgehog games and edgy anti-hero with a sad story hedgehog games>adventure (ps2 yakuza) vs boost (dragon engine/stance switching)>ERM YOU HAVE TO PLAY IN THIS ORDER-It’s all the same, down to fishing minigames and complaining about new friends.
>>728889565>Okinawa>fillerSovlless post.>>728892332As long as you don't rush through the game, do most Substories and don't go out of your way to avoid random encounters you'll pretty much be able to level everything up. Generally speaking I always leveled each tree simultaneously unless there was a specific Tech new move or Heat new action that I really really wanted.
>>728881904>>728881976completely agree. 7 was one of my top 3 in the franchise when it came out and the last few games have basically completely and utterly taken a massive dump all over it
>>728881904>His ongoing retirement which started in Yakuza 4The whole problem with 3 was him trying to retire too
>>728863339Yakuza 4 is unfathomably based, so at least top 3.
>>728895171Normalcucks from reddit get so offended by this game it's so damn funny. I've seen some crying about how Akiyama tells Hana no one would rape her.
>>7288952963 too, because there's a tranny that tries to rape you
>>728895714Which is funny, because Michiru was cut from 3 Remastered but he's present in both Dead Souls and 4 Remastered itself. I get the former because it was never re-released, but they never cut the character from 4 either? Feels half-assed.
>>728863339I feel like this game is the one that stands out the most from the old ones, it did so many weird things like jazzy style soundtrack and the fucking boat chase in tanimura's segment. Also Kamurocho seems a bit more darker.It's weird but i love it
>>728896683The soundtrack is one of the highlights in this game. So many bangers.
>>728881904>>728881976(Possible) hot take: Kiryu shouldn't have worn his suit again after 5. It makes zero fucking sense that the second time he meets with Ichiban he's just... walking down the street with his Dragon of Dojima suit like no biggie. Dude, everyone knows you in this town, could RGG seriously not keep it in their pants for one game?Imagine how could it would've been if by 8 it had been a decade since we last saw Kiryu as himself. In 5 he wears the suit, then ignoring the last 30 seconds of 0, he wears the yakuza black and tycoon white suits throughout that entire game. Then in 6 he's a civilian so he wears the blue jacket from the demo. Then in 7, throughout the whole thing, he wears the bodyguard disguise. Then in Gaiden he wears the agent suit, then in the first half of 8 he wears the black shirt.Then boom, it's 2024 and Kiryu puts on his classic grey and red suit for the first time in 12 fucking years. How huge would that be. Instead they keep betraying their own characters constantly for cheap nostalgia. Also, the Kiwamis shouldn't exist
>>728897296still pissed the blue jacket got completely removed from 6 and forgotten about
>>728863339The 4 characters idea was really good but those fucking rubber bullets plot and cringe cutscenes made half of the game unberable. Final boss was ass as well.
>>728897403Rubber bullets is at least based retard territory. Which is more than you can say for other retarded shit in this series, like Kazama secretly having an identical twin brother in the CIA.
>>728896683Fukuyama is a legit good composer, he did the horror comedy soundtrack of Dead Souls too. They're wasting him on PSO2 NGS now.
>>728897583>>728897403Rubber bullets goes from "Alright that's not how rubber bullets work but alright I can buy it I guess" to "lmao this is hilariously awful" the moment they started being used in the present day.I'm forever pissed they didn't go full hog with this retardation and have Munakata shoot himself with a rubber bullet when he was trying to off himself.
>>728897375At least it can be modded back in.https://youtu.be/YFBPcVgopgY?t=37
3's story genuinely had no reason to happenI get muh pride and stuff but it gets dumber and dumber the more you think about it and I think it's just the dumbest story because of it>Kiryu gets an eviction notice>Absolutely doesn't do anything about it the first time around>Gets a second one>Goes to learn what it's about now>Just completely ignores the mostly sensible explanation, which could make sense considering Kiryu isn't a yakuza anymore and might be running on fumes money wise for all we know, does'nt want to be in debt and yadda yadda to unkown peopleButDaigo knew everything from the start tooWhy the fuck couldn't he just approach Kiryu, explain things his way and offer to buy his sublet without some ludicrous but still sensible amount? It is a fucking business decision and they absolutely could've found a new place to set the orphanage up yet we watch as these fucking idiots refuse to budge on a minor hickup that could've been massively beneficial to both of them for ne reasonI swear this is dumber than the 10 billion child or rubber bullets plots because the crux lies on multiple people on good terms refusing to just talk about a -up to that point- legal issue they've had the power to solve FOR TWO FUCKING YEARS
it's my second favorite after 1
>>728868938>>Story is the stupidest in the entire seriesYou're thinking of 5.>>728870235It's okay, not everyone likes beat-em-ups. They made Y7 and 8 just for you.
>>728897925>they absolutely could've found a new place to set the orphanage upBut they didn't wanna.>b-butThey didn't wanna.>bDidn't wanna.
>>728897925The beginning of 3 isn't told chronologically. In the middle of Kiryu's stay on Okinawa, when he first gets acquainted with the Ryudo guys, Daigo visits the Ryudo office with Toma (the politician) just when Kiryu happens to be inside. Daigo started talking about the land and Kiryu wasn't even interested in listening to any of it. Daigo didn't press the matter further and just settled for quietly paying Nakahara and helping him protect the land.
>>728878896Because he's Akiyama
>>728880646They somehow found a way to make Majima even more soÿ...
>>728898386>Daigo started talking about the land and Kiryu wasn't even interested in listening to any of it.Daigo knows how Kiryu is, had heard of his stance and responses and could'e absolutely led the conversation betterThen again, Daigo is a proven retard for every single game he appears in so there's thatKiryu's stance also feels out of pocket considering the implication wasn't ever for him to have no orphanage or even leaving Okinawa. I understand him being less respectful to yakuza guys he doesn't know at first but he practically treats Daigo's attempt at talking even worseSpeaking of the new guys, he does learn to respect and open up to the Ryudo yakuza too, which you would think help influence his decision after their earlier spats.
>>728898386Yeah it jumps from Nakahara being shot in 2009 to Sayama leaving in January 2007 to the first bit of Okinawa gameplay and meeting/beating Rikya in Summer 2007 to I believe the bulk of the Okinawa chapter in 2008 where Saki is rescued and Daigo flies down to then returning to the present and Kiryu going to Kamurocho.
I get the story was somewhat pointless and all but 3 had the best overall cast imo. And if you can overlook how avoidable everything was, it's one of the more coherent and well done stories of Yakuza.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>Stand in place>Block>Wait two minutes>Get an attack in for 0,5% of the opponents health>RepeatI don't miss old Yakuza
>>728899980You suck at Yakuza, bro.
>>728899980>he can't into Parrying>he can't into Tiger Dropping>he can't into Bounding Throws>he can't into wall bouncing>he can't into Essence of X>he can't into weapon crafting
Kuze was forcedThereI said it
>>728901879He's neat in 0. Future dicksucking like replacing Ishin characters for the 0 lieutenants in the Kiwami because of normies' obsession with the game is godawful.
>>728902452Kinda funny how Sagawa and Tachibana ended up being higher on the popularity poll than the Dojima lieutenants
>>728901879I thought it was dumb how Kiryu wasn't pissed at him at all for torturing Tachibana.
>>728863339>>728897925>they absolutely could've found a new place to set the orphanage upI always thought it was because Kiryu didn't want to force the kids out of a place they could call their home, especially after they all finally settled into it. That's why he was adamant about making sure nothing happened to it. Then Daigo does what he does even to the detriment of the Tojo Clan because he wants to respect Kiryu's wishes which is why Wesker appears in the first place. The intro even has one of Daigo's lackeys asking why he didn't just go through with the deal since it would make the Tojo Clan a bunch of money.
>>728897296If only they actually planned these games in advance instead of winging it every time, contradicting and retconning past motivations time and time again.
This game is so fucking ASS and I can't get a refund
>>728908081It's better than yakuza 1-5
>>728909041Lmao No
>>728905074Moose what's up man, hope you're doing well.WHERE THE FUCK IS THE KENZAN PATCH?At this point I'll be so FUCKING happy with an update saying "Kenzan will release next year, merry Christmas!" or literally anything. I know they do it for free (and passion) but holy fuck, I'm only a human BEING!
>>728881053Pirates is fun, it just leans into the absurd, so instead of breaking up the cadence it cranks it up to silly town pretty much all the way through it. The combat feels more musou than Yakuza too. The story is probably the worst part, but it's not that bad. If you like the side content, there's a ton of it. I think it wasn't as well received as it could have been had Infinite Wealth not made so many blunders. If you play for the main stories in the series, it'll probably feel mediocre. Still worth it on sale
>>728863339It's been a while but I think this is where you get most of the playtime with Akiyama so it's gonna be great just for that fact aloneKiryu is great obviouslyI didn't think I'd like Saejima but he ended up being fun tooThe one I didn't like was the cop, almost dropped the game because of him, should've been Shinada
>>728909321>WHERE THE FUCK IS THE KENZAN PATCH?Who knows. If what a guy said a couple weeks back is true there's the restoration patch guys' patch and then the Ishin translation patch guy's patch both in production. The former guys tend to post here on occasion but I haven't seen them in quite a while in an emulation or Deadly Premonition thread, the latter I only ever saw post on GameFAQs which is why I even know he did the Ishin patch. There is a menu patch out on ModDB because the developer of it thought the restoration patch guys were being malicious and refusing to release the patch when the main issue they kept running into is their translators dropping the project repeatedly due to not realizing how much worse they signed up for and then ghosted them.>>567683080 and >>567684108 is one of them complaining about the translators who keep leaving them. You can open the thread if you want some context since it has to do with the Ishin translators complaining about the restoration patch guys.>>598093150, >>599648468, and >>600645531 are the last time I saw them post until they updated their Tumblr.I know as much as you do man, I'm not part of their team. I just chat with them in the threads occasionally so I have receipts for some of the stuff they talk about.Plus I have diagnosed short-term memory so they have to correct me a lot.
Kino of the highest orderThe best yakuza game of the PS2/PS3 era.
>>728887532Shishido is extremely underrated as a character. No wonder why Omi mogged Tojo so much with BVLLS like him in their squad.
>>728881904Ichiban and his homeless crew are just not strong enough to carry the games. I'm not melodramatic about any of it. The writing is pro wrestling tier male power drama. The point is to surprise you with twists and turns. It's all about the ride, but then you get snagged on the utter stupidity of it and spiral into claiming its over when it never even began. It took itself semi-seriously for one game, then came the golden castles spawning out of the ground and fighting tigers. The worst thing they've done is flanderize Ichiban, but that is funny in its own way since he's more anime MC than Yakuza MC.
>>728909981I'd argue he's overrated. His design and his boss fight do a lot of the heavy lifting for what's otherwise a thoroughly confusedly written, rushed character.
>>728910423he's pretty cool w/ his pimp jacket though
AhemFUCK DAIGO
>>728898386>Daigo started talking about the land and Kiryu wasn't even interested in listening to any of it.Daigo didn't even ask for the land in that conversation, that one Toga or whatever his name yapped on about in a generic villain speech, Kiryu says "tell me if Tojo wants to make a move on the land, k bro?" and Daigo immediately goes "aiiiieee Kiryu-sama Tojo will NEVER touch Okinawa while I live"
Damn, they are literally me fr fr
>>7288633390213564
The glowie didn't have to be Kazama's twinIt added nothing to the actual story or characters
>>728863339>Kiryu in the first two games is a pretty normal-looking guy who’s tough and mean but has a strong sense of honor>Kiryu in the later games is basically a Japanese Jesus Christ with chiseled good looksI like most of the games but the more time goes by the more I hate that and I’m glad Yakuza 4 introduced playable characters who were actually flawed again. Kiryu's just not that relatable when he's this infallible stoic messiah that totally hasn't killed anyone before vs compared with his Y1 self back when the setting was trying its hardest to feel grounded and edgier and Kiryu was treated like an actual criminal even if he was morally more noble than the rest.
>>728914895Kiryu being a normal looking guy just didn't really fit the fact that he was this fucking fighting legend who can beat the crap out of everyone
>>728908081can't care, got the game on sale for Daytona 2
>>728914441It added cheap drama during the first 8 chapters due to Saki's drawing and people going "b-but Kazama-san is dead?!?!".
>>728913148>Daigo immediately goes "aiiiieee Kiryu-sama Tojo will NEVER touch Okinawa while I live"Because he knows what'll happen if they do. Kiryu singlehandedly dealt with Nishiki, Shimano, Jingu, the Triads, the three colored thug gangs, all the Omi lieutenants, an entire mafia of secret koreans and Ryuji Goda himself. Last thing he wants is Kiryu punching his way through Tojo HQ to break Daigo's legs until he reconsiders the deal. Fuck that, might as well not accept it to begin with.
