https://archive.is/WXlCILarian losing on all fronts.
>>728865910>Technology that serves as competition to your job makes getting your job harderwow...
Blah blah blah wah wah wah
Concept artists aren't needed because the end-result is always significantly worse than the concept art.
>>728865959Fried pork assholes are an Italian delicacy.
Well yea Ai isn't a good reference tool for artists. It's only a useful tool if you can't draw. What actual artists can see in an image is vastly different than what your normal person can. Why do you think pajeets think ai shit looks so good. They apparently can't notice all the shitty imperfections and unrealistic mistakes. It adds details that make 0 sense in a lot of cases.
>>728865910it's almost like corporate capitalism is directly antithetical to making good art
>>728865910Holy fuck when will these antist get a real fucking jobGo flip some burgers man atleast that way you actually contribute to something
>>728865910Yes and the car has made the life of a carriage driver harder. That's just how it is when you're about to be out of a job.
>>728865959>invertedso not only they're pig asshole but they're also prolapsed
>>728866103Millenials and Gen Z aren't buying fast food anymore.
wtf I love AI now?
They should quit their six-figure corporate jobs with their oppressive bosses and fascists managers forcing them to use ineffecient AI and start their own studios and projects.
>>728865910>asked 12 lefty friends who "draw" what they think about ai>they represent the entire world, the way article's op is phrasedi fucking hate journos, can't wait for them all to be replaced with AI
>>728865910How? Now big jimmy no talent can gen some random shit instead of trying to verbally describe what he wants. Concept artists don't need to use it at all
>>728866284Then go clean some toilet you lazy fagSome people seriously have a lot of negetive attitude
>>728866319I doubt concept artists make six figures.
>>728866319Literally thisIf these antist so great then why they're dependent on these "evil capitalist" Go create your own job if you're so high and mighty
>>728866591you dont know anything about jobs, you shitpost on 4chan all day
>>728866103Being an artist is a real job though. Otherwise they wouldn't be paid for it. They are providing something that the company hiring them values.Also, videogames wouldn't exist without these artists.
>>728866462It's them being circumvented while their work is still being used.Someone like RJ Palmer would not get hired anymore since the people responsible looking for references wouldn't see his name and artwork, they'd just "gen" the shit they need using his work as basis.
>>728866669I'm posting while working right now.
>>728866710it's not about them being replaced thoughit's about the job they already have being harder somehow
>>728866656>He thinks capitalists aren't evil. Look up how employees were treated before unions and workers' rights laws. They were treated like cattle
>>728865910This is one of those times where teaching people how the sausage is made can easily do more harm than good. It's true that the envisioning phase of concept art is often full of taking other people's work, and then remixing it into something new. I certainly have seen my share of PureRef boards that were mostly Berserk panels, movie stills, and fanart, who'll never ever get credit for it for being part of the input. That sounds kinda bad, and probably made GenAI acolytes connect dots that they probably shouldn't have.
>>728866701Was*These jobs are dead now just like switchboard operator or leech collector
>>728866564>negetivenice english, rajeesh
AI is gay and I'm sick of having to disable pointless AI clippy chatbots on every device and website I go to, but>artist has negative opinion of AIwow no fucking way
>>728866564Millenials and Gen Z aren't using toilets anymore.
>>728866075true, only rich individuals make (or commission) good art. institutions (like major corporations or governments) cannot produce good art, because no individual is ever responsible for any of it.
>>728866926Go fuck yourself commie
>>728866926So?They atleast pay you moneyGo back to woods if you hate them so much
>>728866961Not really, artists still exist. Also, AI relies on copyright infringements / piracy. Therefore it's moral to pirate all ai generated games. The Amazon AI for example used pirated books in it's training data
>>728866926meanwhile socialists just kill them for being too rich
>>728867046>>728867078>Jew bootlickersWithout regulations you wouldn't have weekends or minimum wage. Or vacation.
>>728867085what if they paid artists to teach their algorithm? then it would be moral, right?
>>728865910>this ONE person that has jumped from multiple studios and has always been vocally anti AI is THE voice for all discussion about AI!Nice anecdotal evidence
Why does this thread smell like curry and feces?
>>728867124No? None of that is happening in European socialist countries. There's a difference between socialism and communism.
>>728867150Stop being so antisemitic, without jews you'd still be a serf living on the local lord's land around his manor.
>>728867085But its okay when an artist looks up a random ass reference on google and never sources them, right?
>>728867182They don't though. They rely on piracy.
>>728867150You don't have to spend your whole life working Work for few yrs and invest that hard earned money to generate passive income
>>728865910Okay well, my friend who's a semi-popular Xitter artist said generative AI helped him tremendously with exploring new ideas quickly. I'll trust him more than this article.
>>728867085>Also, AI relies on copyright infringements / piracy.the only thing I support about AI is ripping a hole in the jewish copyright/intellectual property lobby's assholebunch of soulless predatory goons that pocket people's money and pretend they're paying anyone, and then have the gall to put any piece of media you experienced while you were alive in a locker until you're long dead
>>728867330Millennials and Gen Z don't invest anymore.
>>728866103Yeah go do [another job that has been fully automated]
>>728867289Nah, if artists copy it's still plagiarism. Also, an artist learning from other art isn't the same thing as AI training data. Because AI isn't actually intelligent / self aware like a human is. The pirated training data is actively stored in servers
>>728865993>don't have concept art at all>game doesn't even get off the ground floor
>>728867330The amount of money required to earn a livable passive income is huge. Because of how high the cost of living is. You would have to move to a third world shit hole where you don't know the language to get by
>>728866990Yeah artists opinions don't mean anything.They're worthless.
>>728867330>just invest 40 years in an index fund or get lucky off some shitcoin bro
>>728867289Depends on how similar their work is to the reference. Anon there are like, decades of court cases arguing the specifics of this shit and setting precedent, I am going to guess you have looked into none of them? Yet you think anyone should care about your opinion on the matter why exactly?
>Concept Artists Say Generative AI References Only Make Their Jobs Harder Wow, that's terrible, how about don't use them then? Or is the AIDS making you itch so hard that you can't focus?
>>728867289The WoH dev had to redo one of their characters faces for tracing copyright.He kept the original in as a secret option by clicking the character twice rapidly
>>728867330>$12 a month in dividends.I'm getting there bros... I'm getting there.
>>728867372Your friend decided it worked for him. AI is being forced on these artists that already had a work flow and never needed it.
>>728867512So you want AI to be able to profit from pirating people's work, LMAO. How is that any less Jewish? You expect me to pay for these games while they are made using piracy? Also, some basic copyright laws are good. I mean laws which prevent people from stealing your work and profiting for it. Your concerns can be solved without getting rid of copyright as a whole.
>>728867512Don't look into the early lives of Sam Altman, Ilya Sutskever, John McCarthy, etc. etc. etc.
>>728867785You'd never have that reaction image without artists chucklefuck.
>/v/ is pro-pirating>but not pro-AI
>>728867987Actually I wouldn't have that reaction image without autistic Japanese vtubers who want to act like dogs for me on the internet.
>>728867658Your brain stores pirated data too.Like anyone using ai art as the final product is an idiot, but using it as reference material? I dont see the issue in that. Even if the machine learning was done as ethically as possible, i truely do not think the people who are always blanket shitting any aspect of AI would care. They would still insist it needs to be banned. I dont think objectivity is possible in discourse with AI
>>728866067I know what youre trying to say but youre talking shit- AI can be fantastic reference because it can be difficult to find photos of things youre describing and when an AI can give you 140 examples of a baseball pitch in 15 seconds its a much better use of time than searching through baseball footage for an hour.The problem is when you dont use those references as a basis for your drawing or painting and use those exact images as your production contribution. Everyone should aim to be Kim Jung Gi levels of "ive seen this before" but it can be difficult to actually ever even SEE certain subject matter let alone remember it well enough to draw. For example if i need a picture of the bottom of a P90, i know what one looks like, i have a model of one in my room and can load one up in Blender and pose it but its much easier to ask an image generator for it WHILE im working and just use that and correct any mistakes than waste the 10 minutes it takes to manually create one image of it myself
>>728865910>lying retard that wants to keep his job
>>728868045/v/ and 4chan in general is just contrarian about anything. If AI stopped being popular it become well-liked here again. Stop thinking too deeply about it
>>728866710>Someone like RJ Palmer would not get hired anymore since the people responsible looking for references wouldn't see his name and artwork, they'd just "gen" the shit they need using his work as basis.So? Why is society obligated to keep the RJ Palmers of the world employed ad infinitum when, by their own measure, what they do can be done by machines? This literally never happened for any other job type.
>>728868045>Lemme steal from these "evil corpos"hahaha>Wtf why these pig stealing my work nooooooo thats not fair piracy bad
>>728868107My brain isn't the same as AI. The proof is that AI makes mistakes that normal humans never do. AI isn't self aware.
>>728867085>Also, AI relies on copyright infringements / piracy.Like all the anti-AI retards weren't gleefully engaging in piracy and copyright infringement for years?>Therefore it's moral to pirate all ai generated games. There are no AI-generated games (outside of those shitty flappy bird clone demos), the technology isn't there yet. Either way, why do you present this as some brilliant comeback when your premise just reinforces the idea that copyright is bullshit?
>>728867289>its okay to machine print stolen table designs and sell them on chinese market places because woodworkers go online and look up previous designs of table legs before hand chiseling ornate piecesgodless, artless cunts unknowingly deserve the rope. things are shit because you actively defend the processes that destroy sincere efforts. its not so much as "muh human expression" as it is knowing how quickly people will ruin an industry for quick profit- If you want to never be able to find a good game just by browsing ever again because its all cookie cutter AI with no curation then go ahead
>>728865959art shouldn't be a competition.
>>728868115AI can give you an infinite amount of slightly wrong information. If you want endless material that's very slightly wrong every time, AI is just perfect. The p90 might be mirrored and all the text is garbled, but hey, it's easier than google I guess.
>>728865910No way, The thing that is threatening to replace person is making the job harder.... according to the person who is getting replaced?NOFUCKINGWAY
>>728867658>Also, an artist learning from other art isn't the same thing as AI training data. Because AI isn't actually intelligent / self aware like a human is.There's no relevance between the second and the first sentence. You could just as well say that AI training isn't the same because AI doesn't have eyes.>The pirated training data is actively stored in serversWhich "servers"? You barely even fucking understand the terminology, and you're trying to discuss this based on AI responses in a search engine. No, no data needs to be stored past the training phase. There is none of it in the weights.
>>728868404>Like all the anti-AI retards weren't gleefully engaging in piracy and copyright infringement for years?Nah, not everyone is a pirate.Also, there is a difference between pirating for your own consumption and pirating to make money off of someone else's work and also replace all the people you are pirating from>when your premise just reinforces the idea that copyright is bullshit?I'm advocating for AI companies to be held accountable for their copyright infringements
>>728868427Muh anecdotal evidence
>>728868435Everything should be a competition because competition=growth
>>728867289No, tracing is still frowned on and people selling traced art can get in legal trouble.
>>728865959kek
>>728868472read what was fucking written. If youre familiar with the object you should be spotting mistakes. Actual devs are so unfamiliar with firearms they end up adding civilian models to active combat videogames down the details of the serial numbers and screws preventing modification. A google search isnt going to prevent you from accidentally selecting the PS90 variant or some chinese knockoff after 30 minutes of searching for the correct angle unless you do the research required. the bottom of a P90 also isnt something that can look so fucked up as to not be caught if its the central focus of the imageLike i said, I ALSO have replica models and blender projects so i can cross reference what i find if it doesnt look right- any arguments against this kind of use is arguing that "everyone is actually a retard anyway and will make mistakes" which is irrelevant because high profile artists have been making fucked up mistakes long before AI was a contributing factor
>>728868352>The proof is that AI makes mistakes that normal humans never do. AI isn't self aware.Nobody gives a shit about this other than singularity loons. The point is that it does the job.
>>728866067>It adds details that make 0 sense in a lot of casesAn artist, especially in concept art won't give a fuck about details. Literally one of the first things you learn in an art education is simplifying things into larger shapes. Any unnecessary details just serve as inspiration. >ai draws in some yellow squigly shit>its a chain now>ai draws in some black squiggles on the character>its a mesh shirt/stockings nowArtists believe it or not, won't go into a complete meltdown over some random detail that is nonsensical, they will take a few seconds to fix it or remove it and move on.
>>728868435Artists have lost their way years ago.All profit, nothing else.Quite sad really.
>>728868130They literally are not.
>>728868138>what they do can be done by machines>that uses his art to make it's "own"
>>728868472the FN P90 is also ambidextrous, you cant fuck it up by "mirroring" it you fuckin idiot lmao
>>728868472>AI can give you an infinite amount of slightly wrong information. If you want endless material that's very slightly wrong every time, AI is just perfect.Wow, AI sounds just like a human.
>>728867658>Also, an artist learning from other art isn't the same thing as AI training data. Because AI isn't actually intelligent / self aware like a human is.Why is self awareness and intelligence required? Also what intelligence is required? Are artists undergoing IQ tests to make sure they are considered intelligent, so they are allowed to learn from others, or do they just get taken behind the shed if they have below 80IQ.
>>728868621>There's no relevance between the second and the first sentence.There is. You want to claim that AI learns the same way humans do, but you have no evidence for that. There is no evidence that AI is sentient. >No, no data needs to be stored past the training phase. There is none of it in the weightsEven if it's not needed they likely still store it and use it based on my search. Either way, post proof
>>728867658>if artists copy it's still plagiarism.it's called inspiration you bigot!seriously speaking, did you know that people learn a skill by imitating the work of those that came before?>>728868107>Your brain stores pirated data too.yes, which is why people should attend mandatory copyright screenings so they can have any illegal copyrighted data scrubbed from their brains :^)
>>728868794>The point is that it does the job.In a very shitty way. I will keep pirating any game that uses AI except maybe AI translations.
>>728868045Yes, anti-corner cutting and pro-punishment for corner cutting, what don't you understand?
>jeets found the thread
>>728865910Isn't that obvious? It even lays out the reason why the job is harder in the title: Concept artists can't find decent references anymore because their hyper-specific request that would periodically be fulfilled by autistic twitter or Youtube profiles are now being co-opted by AI usage, making perspective difficult.Before, it wasn't that hard to find someone in specific clothing doing a pose for 10 seconds but nowadays, AI has swamped the short-form reference content with false perspectives and unrelated references. Everybody is forced to either follow dedicated perspective creators or put everything into blender to make basic models now.
>>728868352This just simply isnt a definitive statement though.There are artists who still accidentally draw 6 fingers or orient body parts in a way that are not possible on a real body.If its shit like suddenly a 3rd leg being present then yeah, that is dumb. The artists absolutely wouldnt use that piece as a reference. No artist has to settle on any one reference. And again if this is tying to people who are just raw posting ai images as the final product, yes they are dumbasses. That is a bullahit thing to do
>>728868971Thanks manPirating still means you support ai and wants to play more games with gen ai ;)
>>728868682do you know what anecdotal evidence even is or is "using a storefront" some sort of made up event that nobody ever does? There are currently no active AI filters other than user tag generation on Steam. the proposed scenario is that there are no AI controls in the future and every other game seen uses some form of AI generation because of the sheer volume of titles released on the store.You genuinely do seem to be a fucking retard just arguing for no reason about shit you dont care about. but i wouldnt say youre an accelerationist because youre too much of an idiot
>>728867923>How is that any less Jewish?the jewish thing is attaching strings to worksonce you give someone something, it's no longer yours. you don't get to control what they do with it>I mean laws which prevent people from stealing your work and profiting for it. artists steal all the time. they just call it "inspiration" when they do it. don't play innocent. there are "unconscious copying" lawsuits being filed all the time
>>728865910shadman?
>>728868984>WORK LONGER, HARDER, AND BETTER FOR MY VIDEO GAME, DEVELOPER>I, THE CONSUMER, DEMAND IT FROM YOU>but it's also ok if I pirate the game when it's done
>>728869036>If its shit like suddenly a 3rd leg being present then yeah, that is dumb. Does xer know?
>>728869042I won't be buying your slopware, no one will lmao.
>>728869042 Except I’m not paying for it, champ. You think I’m boosting their metrics by grabbing a fitgirl repack? If anything, I’m a QA tester at this point. Besides, if devs wanna cheap out with AI, I’ll cheap out by not giving them a cent. Symmetry in all things.
>>728865910The scramble to make use of LLM's is hilarious. They over promised
>>728868854Wow, RJ Palmer has never ever looked at anyone else's art before making "his own"? He has zero inspirations, never learned anything from any image created by someone else? That's amazing.Also, just to drive the point home: what you're implying still changes nothing about the conclusion, even if we accept your premise. Why do we owe it to RJ Palmer et al to keep them employed?
>>728868932You type like a redditor and you didnt make a single point in your post beyond personal conjecture and being smarmy with no pointYou are gay
>>728869035So its a reference when they do itBut its stealing when an AI does itHuh
>>728865910You can cry and whine and stamp your feet as much as you want but it isn't going to result in anything. AI isn't going away and you WILL buy the AI slop whether you like it or not, whether you know the product used AI or not, and within the next 10 years you'll be happily chowing down completely oblivious to the fact that you ever even opposed AI in the first place.
>>728868884Because it shows that AI is not the same as humans. Therefore it casts doubt on your idea that AI learns the same way humans do. Unless you prove otherwise, it's clear that AI is different, and reliant on piracy to function.
>>728867223Which European socialist country?
>>728868115>need reference photo>have ai generate one>instead of using the one thing AI is actually fucking good at in collating search results You are so dumb, you are so very very dumb. It's almost emblematic of the audience for AI, create a perfect example of a problem AI is good for, and then not even use the right kind of AI tool to ensure you still look like a massive retard to everyone else.
>>728868932Human learning =\= AI learning.
>>728868903>There is. You want to claim that AI learns the same way humans do, but you have no evidence for that. There is no evidence that AI is sentient.AI learns the same way in the sense that it extracts patterns from images and can correlate them. You take inputs, you notice the similarities, you generalize over them. Pattern recognition doesn't need sentience, and nobody besides people obsessed with sci-fi and/or corporate salesmen care if there's any sentience in it.>Even if it's not needed they likely still store it and use it based on my search. What do I give a shit? It doesn't matter to me at all what corporations do.>Either way, post proofGo to huggingface and download any model and show me where the images are in the weights.
>>728869224Hey we had to deal with buying games with gays/trans people with it.Now they have to deal with buying games with AI in it.
>>728869036>There are artists who still accidentally draw 6 fingers or orient body parts in a way that are not possible on a real body.Nah, AI mistakes in art can be much less subtle than just an extra finger. I have generated abominations that humans would never create accidentally.
>>728869438Can you at least post examples or...?
>>728865910>spoke to a dozen (12) professional concept artists>"most" said it made things harder>couldn't even get a unanimous consensus with such a low pool of artistsshiggy diggy doo
>>728869224TRVTHNUKED But antist can still paint walls and floors so i guess we can still use them for something haha
>>728867085>>728867923Copyright is fundamentally immoral. It's a violation of actual property rights. No one should be able to own an idea. As such, AI companies are doing nothing wrong by pirating their training data and you are doing nothing wrong by pirating AI content. However, within the legal framework we have, the obvious solution is to make training AI covered by fair use, which is the solution Japan has come to and most of the world will follow.
>>728869072When artists blatantly copy, it's called plagiarism. >it's no longer yours. you don't get to control what they do with itThis is generally the case with most consumer goods despite copyright. The only thing you aren't allowed to do is copy someone's work and sell it as your own. That restriction is perfectly reasonable because without it there would be much less incentive to create things. Because pirates works just steal your work.
>>728869102AI relies on piracy to function So it's ok to pirate AI games.
>>728869052I thought you were quoting a real scenerio but if you were not then your first post was worth even less than nothing.Every tool can be used for good and bad, but if you get angry at a hypothetical scenerio you made up and insist a tool is only possible of bad than you are inherently bad faith, biased, and not even worth acknowledging
>>728869269>Because it shows that AI is not the same as humans. Therefore it casts doubt on your idea that AI learns the same way humans do.The entire point of the argument is that you need prior works to learn from. Stop playing dumb. Splitting hair over whether you have an exact identity over neuron activations in a human brain and weights being adjusted is a red herring argument.>Unless you prove otherwise, it's clear that AI is different, and reliant on piracy to function.Unless you prove that human artists can learn without seeing other people's outputs, then they're "reliant on piracy" in the exact same sense. Nobody has ever argued that other humans aren't allowed to learn from someone else's work, "how do I draw like X" is a staple of drawing tutorials online, and master copies are a centuries-old didactic tool, and nobody ever bothers to ask for the originator's consent. That is the entire point of the argument, that he notion that human artists learn in a complete vacuum is total bullshit.
>>728869224I will pirate all AI slop, because AI itself is trained on pirated data
>“I’m seeing more and more clients generate something approximating their desired outcome and essentially asking me to make ‘something like this,'” said Canavan. “It sucks. This practice absolutely invalidates the entire creative process, in my opinion, and makes my job harder and more frustrating. The job of an illustrator or concept artist is to draw from their years of experience to interpret a brief in a creative way.”It is the client who is wrong.
>>728869614so you mean you copy others, but just in a way that you won't get found out. good job hypocrite>This is generally the casewhich is the way it should be>The only thing you aren't allowed to do is copy someone's work and sell it as your ownthe fact that you're equating copyright infringement and plagiarism tells me that you either haven't read the laws or you're genuinely retarded
>>728866284Why buy fast food when they're as expensive as slow food
>>728869146>getting inspired by art to make your own is the same as a machine mashing art together Be honest, do you even know in the slightest how your precious "AI" works?>why should people be employed who make art the "AI" usesYou're actually a full blown fucking retarded.
>>728869136>if devs wanna cheap out with AI, I’ll cheap out by not giving them a centThis. Though more often than not I'd just skip the game entirely.If there's something I want to play that has AI in it though, I'd just pirate it.
>>728869363>What do I give a shit? It doesn't matter to me at all what corporations do.The whole point of this argument is that it's a moral good to pirate AI games because AI itself was created through piracy. I still don't believe that AI is intelligent either way. >>728869575>>728869714Cope. It's undeniable that AI was created via piracy. Therefore, I will pirate any game that uses ai.
>>728869438OhOkay so then the artist wouldnt use that image thenWhy would they use that piece then?
>>728869680>>728869732This. I will also pirate non-AI games.
Hi artist! I got a job for u ;)
>>728869739the artist is right. the same shit is happening to translation>get AI (MTL) vomit>"can you please massage this into something usable? btw I will only be paying you to fix mistakes, not per word" (this results in, say, 30% of what you usually earn)>job takes just as long, if not more (now you need to read TWO different texts)>work becomes infuriating because AI can't get shit like names consistently right, let alone literary devices or extended metaphors. it feels like refactoring someone's spaghetti code>end up doing the same amount of work as always for a fraction of the pay>execs give themselves self-congratulatory pats in the back for their "efficiency gains" (read: wage cuts)AI is just an excuse to slash wages
>>728865910>Concept Artists Say Generative AI References Only Make Their Jobs HarderNo shit.
>>728869794I will pirate all ai games.>good job hypocriteI'm not an artistThese companies are hypocrites since they expect me to pay for their work when it is enabled via piracy
>>728869993the average artist would probably get his arm tired after an hour of that
>>728870138do you know what the word "concept" means, mongoloid?
>>728869993The ultimate goal is to also get rid of your job
>>728869913>Cope. It's undeniable that AI was created via piracy.>Therefore, I will pirate any game that uses ai.How is it cope? I just agreed with both of those statements.
>>728870238Do you know what is the purpose of concept art? Ofcourse you don't.
>>728870238concept art needs to be immaculate. it's what level, map, and character designers base their work on. if you have to suffer shit like characters with 8 fingers, swords that merge into a character's body, stairs that merge into the same floor at the beginning and end, or perspective issues, your work becomes much more difficult
Every fall of a major bcivilization begins with the stagnation of creativity, always brought on by moral and spiritual decay from excessive hedonism in times of plenty.
>>728865959Artists found all of that really funny when it happened to blue collars.Remember to give them back their "they took our job" jabs.
>>728865959>Try to find reference images online>It's mostly hallucinated slop, not useful for making anything with any accuracyIt has negative value. It's like if AI generated carpentry tips recommended putting screws in end-grain.>>728868779And search engines are even less able to provide accurate results now that SEO and AI generated results flood everything.>>728869739>That guy who said that the remake of "The Thing" should be purely CGI, because practical effects look like an 80s movieThe client is always wrong, fuck the client.
>>728865910>https://archive.is/WXlCI>“I’m seeing more and more clients generate something approximating their desired outcome and essentially asking me to make ‘something like this,'” said Canavan. “It sucks. This practice absolutely invalidates the entire creative process, in my opinion, and makes my job harder and more frustrating. The job of an illustrator or concept artist is to draw from their years of experience to interpret a brief in a creative way.”Right. So the client simply says "I want something like this", and it offends the artist because he wants to draw his own shit (i.e. ugly tumblr designs).
>>728870324>>728870432>i can't literally trace it, cause it's blurry>I AM AN ARTIST!!!nigga, if you can't use your imagination and drawing skills to fix that ai image while redrawing, what kind of concept artist are you even then?
What the fags who are shitting on artists don't realise, is that the ultimate goal is to replace all jobs. You are a bunch of Jew bootlickers.
>>728867865Because all their internet reference materials are now polluted with AI-slop.
>>728870432not sure if I'd describe it as immaculate, but it does need to 'work', otherwise modelers and animators will spend their time trying to understand how the fuck it should work in 3d space (which is the whole purpose of the concept artist)
>>728865910It makes sense. The point of concept art is to explore and connect artistic ideas in meaningful ways. AI-generated art looks pretty but doesn't have any specific intent or meaning. The AI has no understanding of how the gun design it's generating physically works, how the different parts of the gun connect and what their functions are. There's nothing under the surface of what it generates, no concepts contained, so it's useless for concept art.
>>728870696Admittedly, AI would be the least of our worries if no one had a job left.
>>728870754Ai would be the cause of it
>>728870809I think that would be the nuclear fallout, sweetie.
>>728870696>>728870809Sounds good.
>>728867890That's almost as much as a Chinese pension (17 USD per month).
>>728870732>The AI has no understanding of how the gun design it's generating physically works, how the different parts of the gun connect and what their functions are. Neither does Bethesda.
>>728871052Yeah, Bethesda doesn't use design documents, remember?
>>728869110You know I can just hit the yandex button and see what the actual image is supposed to look like right
>>728871052All arguments i have seen against AI can largely be used against existing companies and their designs. Its kinda nuts
>>728871336>what the actual image is supposed to look like rightAnon...
>>728870689You're kinda retarded bro. Like most opinionated people.
>>728866248I’m more concerned about the “boneless” part. That implies there’s bone-in rectums.
>retards who can't stop crying about AI cried about AI when askedShocking!
>>728871519it's more common than you think, I put a bone into your mom's rectum just last night
>>728865910OG overwatch designs are incredible, but most concept art sucks and is even worse once the design is finalized. All you need know is an idea of a character and use various prompts across different AI image generators until you’re happy with the design. Or you just take an image of Mario and sonic and combine it into one design and just go with that.
>>728868779>If youre familiar with the object you should be spotting mistakes.The whole fucking purpose of reference images is that you AREN'T familiar with the fucking object in question. You don't fucking KNOW exactly what some specific gun looks like. That is exactly why you need an accurate, error-free picture of it so you can draw it right. And that's what AI can never provide.
>>728870470Stfu retardI just boosted my creative by 10x with ai
>>728871380what the fuck does that even mean, you fucking tourist. THAT image is what the retarded concept artist genned or presented with. It is his job as a concept artist to absorb this idea and "fix" whatever the fuck needs fixing. that's the whole point of a concept artist, no? to steal stuff from others and pretend he came up with it.
>>728870689>>728872174We are not talking about tracing material, holy shit. You have no idea what the conversation is even about.An artist's job is not to "fix" shit that AI puked out.
>>728869146>Why do we owe it to RJ Palmer et al to keep them employed?Why do we owe it to you et al to keep you alive? Describe the point of society in your own words.
No wonder Canavan is bitching the most about AI, he's work already looks like slop https://paulscottcanavan.squarespace.com/
>>728867741You literally need $500k and your fine forever.
This whole thread is further evidence that the only people who like AI are people who absolutely hate creativity and art and think they're inherently worthless.
>>728872269my god leftards are braindead, go back to redd1t for christ sake
>>728869884>mashing art together>Be honest, do you even know in the slightest how your precious "AI" works?Clearly you don't, you smarmy faggot.
>>728870470Id agree if the past 20 years werent fucking terrible creatively even without AI. Maybe its time to try something new or some corners that need to be cut to let people work more effectively.I dont have a problem with AI stuff, IF its costs less or is free. That is my only issue with AI>someone makes an AI movie, very little involvement by real people and sets/music etc>starts charging admission>its the same price as other movies made by peopleThis is the problem. The reason why stuff like this costs money is because its to make money back for the people that made it. Its different if you used it to just make something and there was no labour cost. Why the fuck am I paying for it if noone worked on it, or at least, why would I be expected to pay the same as though people did work on it. We are going to get to something like how bespoke and tailored clothes are worth way more than stuff that is made in a sweatshop/factory. Art isnt going to die its just going to become something that is defined as "the consumer" brand and "the enthusiast" brand. The human made stuff will be held to a much higher esteem, but will also require that you actually be good now, where everyone who is shit is just replaced by AI brands.
>>728872517You should not talk about art if you don't understand it on any level whatsoever and don't even know what the fuck artists DO. It's like you literally think all art is tracing and nothing else.
>>728865910Ah shit... ahh jeez... guess it's time to get fired friendo
>>728870689>You should have to deal with shittier references that make your work harder because.. I SAID SO
>>728870981Except the Chinese can afford houses, cars and traveling because they skullfucked the dollar a long time ago.
I don't care, I'm still prompting.
>>728871052Yeah? They're home grown firearms are hideous.
>>728872539>ai bro doesn't understand his own toyYou do you I guess.
Yeah I imagine it makes your job more critical. The idea guys can much more easily commit to a concrete visual representation of their idea. Then you have to just try to create art that matches that specific expectation, instead of helping them build on their idea and make it into a reality from the ground up.
>>728865959The crazy part about you getting six replies is that that isn't even what was said.It's about actively using AI in an active job, not getting a job because of AI, you frogposting mouthbreathing oxygen thief.
>>728869035Ok so? Just ask AI to make you the reference stupidio?
>>728870531Every time someone says this, they can't even point a single time this happened
>>728865910>people worried thing will replace them says thing sucks actuallyStop the fucking presses
>>728875793It's just a techbro SEO psy-op to distract from what actually happened.
>>728876173https://metr.org/blog/2025-07-10-early-2025-ai-experienced-os-dev-study/
>>728876186Journalists were making ragebait back then. Just like they do now. Hell Kotaku was just ragebait and poorly made articles that people clicked just to make fun of.But what does that have to with the people that paint and draw and do the concept art like OP's example?
Why would you use AI for references anyway? Isn't the point of them to pull from something in real life? Like capcom used actual photos from spain for RE4 and the team that did the HD mod actually travelled there to take photos of the architecture etc. Why the fuck would you ask an AI for their hallucinated approximation of what spanish buildings are like if you want to make something authentic?
>>728865910AI is the biggest nothingburger of our time. It's going to blow up in execs faces in the next 5-10 years and all it will amount to is trillions of dollars lost and likely a looming recession again.People at the top have no concept of nobless oblige at all and there genuinely needs to be an enormous societal upheaval on a global scale. I think billions should die.
>>728870134Why aren't they demanding full pay when being given extra work? Why are they accepting 1/3rd of the money? What will the suits do, have a second AI review the MTL?
>>728872703>The last attempts at layoffs and cost savings ended up costing the company nearly 10 billionI wonder, were any of the C-suite execs laid off for this blunder? Or are the exact same people about to make the same mistake again?
>>728872609What else is it lmfao? The cat is out of the bag now that we know how AI does it we know how you did it too.
>>728877073MBA logic right there. You'd run a company straight into the ground.
>>728870531>>728875793That's because it wasn't artists doing that, it was 'journalists' and the 'empathy is our superpower' people.Now journalists are even more redundant because AI can write sloppy clickbait even more easily than they can.
>>728870219So would I. Why the fuck is he painting a room wall with a 9" roller? We have 18 and 24" rollers for that.
>>728865910It's incredible how none of the people ITT actually read the article. The entire thing is about artists who already have a job getting annoyed with how AI is absolutely fucking worthless garbage that makes their job actively more difficult, not that AI is taking their job.Then again, half the posts in this thread are probably unironic paid AI shills.
>>728866075>>728866926>>728867150>>728870696Capitalism is the only reason humans can enjoy high living standards, you faggot enemy of humanity.
>>728870696People who understand what AI is knows it can't replace all jobs, only anti-AI retards and AI cultists treat AI, a glorified word processor computer software as some intelligent being.
>>728877435Well yeah when you get a new tool, it takes a while to understand and learn how to use it.It's like trying to learn darksouls with a guitar hero controller. You can do it, it just takes practice.
>>728877867Nigger it's been like 5 years and it still sucks. The "new tool" has absolutely no practical use for artists. All it does is produce obnoxious slop that doesn't do anything but hinder the process. It's a worthless waste of time and money for the things it's being used for right now— the only actual practical purposes it has are things that require a desicated, from-the-ground-up manually trained model like the Outlines in Spiderverse 2, which almost nobody is doing because the entire fucking industry is fixated on the imagegen shit that has absolutely no worth to anybody.
>>728876697>Why aren't they demanding full pay when being given extra work?>Why are they accepting 1/3rd of the money?because there's always someone desperate enough to accept it, moronthe entire point of AI is to reduce wages, not push the envelope
>>728868846Exactly
>>728872556>will also require that you actually be good nowWhy when you can just gen it and paint over it?
>>728878113It's still far from perfect but as many now realize, you cannot make something cohesive by prompting without editing or using the made assets. We've come a long way
>>728878524Why would I pay for that.
>>728878564>you cannot make something cohesive by prompting without editing or using the made assets. Did you just not read the article or what? You can't make anything cohesive or usable at ALL, and what little you can salvage is so completely bland as to be worthless in the end anyways.
>>728878564The advancements of AI have really shown how common short term memory is for humans.Do people even remember fucking covid? That shit was five years ago.
>>728868846a nigga's gotta eat and that's not free unfortunatelyif only those trillions that are going into AI were going into something that would make living a good life actually more affordable and easy instead of strictly harder and more expensive (unless you are already a millionaire i guess)
>>728878606Why would anyone pay for a painting? Not like you'll know lmfao.
>>728878641> You can't make anything cohesive or usable at ALLYou cannot be this retarded anon, let alone be this bad using AI.Even the most hateful Anti-AI person knows how much better AI has gotten.
>>728878726Just work at the coal mines and do art as an hobby. You don't need the comfy luxury job to live.
>>728877867>It's like trying to learn darksouls with a guitar hero controller Inefficient, counterintuitive and only done if you want to make things harder for yourself?
Imagine learning to code and then within a few years you can only get jobs doing code review because AIs are doing all the actual coding.
>>728871519If it don't got bone in itit's BONELESS
>>728878856>Even the most hateful Anti-AI person knows how much better AI has gotten.It doesn't matter how much "better" it gets if the end result is still that it produces unusable garbage. Again, have you even read the article this entire fucking thread is about?
>>728878726Then get a real job loser? Sucks your parents didn't love you so you don't have a business or rental properties.
>>728878905>Can't play dark souls with a guitar hero controllerA woman can do it anon.
>>728878856Better? Yes. Cohesive? Not really. You can have good sessions and scenarios, but you cannot have a continuous scenario without babying the fuck out of it and that's not really something worth the time at the moment.
>>728878351But those people existed before AI, too. There's always desperate people willing to work at cut rates.
>>728878938Just because we have graphing calculators and matlab doesn't mean engineers aren't performing math.
>>728870531>Artists found all of that really funny when it happened to blue collars.none of this happened. only AI kikes parrot this revisionism. however programmers found it funny when it happened to blue collars, so I'll laugh at their job loss instead which is ironic
>>728878890>>728878973i already do have a "real" job, it sucks and i don't have enough free time to draw all the things i would like tomy coal mine work is also not very high paying so i have to do comms to compensate for it, otherwise i would live month to month and wouldn't be able to have back-up savings for emergencies
>>728878985I'm sure artists never have this issue when they take breaks in-between their drawings or when burn-out happens.
>>728867085It's has been morally correct to pirate games ever since they decided that we don't actually own them when paying for them.
>>728879115Were you an orphan? Why are you so stupid and lazy?
>>728878740Its like buying buying "gucci" and the stitching is clearly wrong, or a rolex where the diamonds are actually just glass. The knock offs exist even today, we see that they have next to no value at all compared to the real thing. People that care tend to check and know when something is premium, because they want the premium, not to just look like they have it.In regard to a painting, if they print it out and paint over it, how the fuck do you think people wouldnt be able to tell that its painted over something, even now we test to see the original line work of art from several hundred years ago, you think someone printing on a piece of paper is getting away with a full blown drawing printed underneath? Once youre name is tainted by that youre not going to sell anything again too.Again, AI art is fine, but Im not paying for it, or at least Im going to pay way below what is considered standard.
>>728876186funny isn't it? the same people who shill for AI actually say this. it's almost as if it makes more sense for them to say this than artists. wtf do artists have to do with either coding or blue collar jobs?
>>728879125This drawing is more cohesive and understandable even in its shitty unfinished sketch state than anything AI slops out.
>>728879115>i don't have enough free time to draw all the things i would like toEnough time to shitpost though.
>>728879147no, but if i was i think i'd be better off (only financially) because a lot of my money goes to taking care of my family
>>728877708while you are correct that it can't replace all jobs and it will only have niche uses, you should be concerned about the intent. because if a way is found to do this, it will happen
>>728879082Your post is revisionism too. It wasn't artists or programmers who did that, it was 'journalists'.
>>728879248i'm shitposting at work lmao
a lot of people have a lot of opinions on what an artist should be doing and you can tell they have obviously never had nor pursued a creative endeavor in their life. you should be required to pyw before replying to any thread about artists being replaced.
>>728879263Why don't they take care of you? Some kind of a third worlder where they guilt trip you into giving them money even if they didn't buy you any apartments or houses or anything?
>>728879362There's so many rules that I'm amazed anyone wants to draw.Just let them draw outside the lines, who gives a fuck. People jerk it to fucking Black Souls and thats scribbles.
>>728879362I simply don't give a shit.
>>728879342So get a better job where you can work effective hours instead of wasting your life in adult daycare.
>>728879125posting this image with that argument as a "point of reference" to what you're saying just goes to show how unsalvageable the brains of AI niggers are>https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GrossUpCloseUpdoesn't apply only to gross stuff, but you get the point
>>728879362Why? Your replaced already your worthless, Who care about you?
>>728879362Then go ahead and post your work. Start acting instead of just talking.
>>728879506Next time I'll post a random scene from One Punch Man Season 3.Same point.
>>728878856i know. yet it's still an inefficient or unusable tool if you want to use it for your desire goals. I repeat, for your DESIRED GOALS. not for "eh, it's good enough that's my goal" cope.
>>728879648> "eh, it's good enough that's my goal"An artist has NEVER said this in any piece of work they've drawn.Ever.
>>728879362I disagree. I think even people without an ounce of creativity and, thus, no work to speak of, should still see AI usage as creatively counterproductive and a means toward creating a much more boring world for uncreative people to live in.
>>728879724which is exactly why AI is useless in this case, wheres a mark making tool is very basic and the output depends entirely on you and your skill, where you and your skill = limitless potential.
>>728879423third worlder and they suck at managing money>>728879473getting a better job isn't easy, and this job also has non-existant commuting which maximizes my free time to do my hobbies and reduces traveling costsi don't do shit because i already coded a lot of the internal system my company so all the work i used to do and even the work of some of my co-workers is now automated and/or more efficient, i have only a small list of things i do daily but they are integral to the proper functioning of the business and only really sit down and code when my boss tells me he wants something added or changed on the systemso most of my time now is small improvements or waiting for the non-automated work to come in
>>728879567AI niggers will try to keep demoralizing with this tactic but it's not gonna work. I'm not an artist but the artists I commission are still swamped with work. face it, AI faggots do not care about art because they never cared about art, they only obsess over the tool. it's as if I was going crazy over brushes, or pencils, or charcoal. it's retarded and not gonna work
>>728879936Then draw at work, where is the problem.
>>728873343Take it easy on him, he’s Indian. He’s been dealt the worst imaginable hand in life being cursed with a sub 76 IQ and lifestyle that would make a cockroach reel in horror.
>>728877565no it's not you fucking retard
>>728878985>without babying the fuck outOh so being a responsible user and giving a shit about the piece you're putting together?
>>728865910same happened to translators, so it's not surprising. now we have standardless slop everywhere
>>728878856How did your Coca Cola ads do by the way AI bro? Surely no one can tell it’s slop.
>>728880216Getting a cohesive scenario out of AIslop takes 10x the effort for a worse result compared to just doing it manually from the start. Have you even read the article this thread is about?
>>728880153i'm not drawing furry shit in my work place nigga that's too much, would probably get me firedactually, probably not, but i still don't want to go do that and risk itshitposting takes like 10 minutes at most i don't have THAT much free time
>>728880292the cocka-cola ads were shit because video generation is in the early stages of development stillpicture generation on the other way are almost perfectjust a few years and all those latte sipping ad ""directors"" will be replaced in only a few prompts
>>728880398If you can shitpost you can find ways to draw, even if it's in mspaints. Also you definitely have more than enough free time you don't use on drawing. Don't pretend, nigger.
>>728865959fpbp
>>728880638>picture generation on the other way are almost perfectAnd yet this ENTIRE THREAD is about an article of people ACTIVELY WORKING IN THE INDUSTRY who claim the exact opposite.
>>728877435>AI is absolutely fucking worthless garbage that makes their job actively more difficultkek, it was so bad in my company that we stopped using it after not even a week. It really couldn't look at two simple railway layouts and determine if they're congruent.
>>728880789pumpkin-spice latte sippers raging against the machine that will replace them in a year or two is not an argumentof course they'll falsely claim it "sux", we all know it's not true
>>728878113>Nigger it's been like 5 years and it still sucks.You unironically have to be like 12 if you think 5 years is somehow a lot of time
>>728880115>demoralizingIt didn't really hit me until you said it just now but it really says a lot of about this fucking garbage if the only way they can shill it is with demoralization. No bright future of a cool new creative medium to look forward to, just you will be replaced, you will own nothing you will consoom the slop and you will be happy.
>>728880940>raging against the machine that will replace them in a year or two is not an argumentIt's incredibly how you can't actually refute a single thing said in the article so you AIjeet shills just default to not-so-subtle regional/generational stereotypes to attempt dogshit "divide and conquer" tactics. Every single fucking time with you faggots.
>>728865910>shadman
>>728865910as it should
>>728879020except that regardless of rates they still had got a normal job with normal paynow stupid clueless execs expect you to fix their MTL vomit for half the money while they pretend it doesn't take the same amount of time, if not more, while worse resultsI hate you AI retards so fucking much
>>728881068>gets offended at "stereotypes">uses "jeet" in the same postanti-AI = mental midgetrygo back to redd1t
>>728881203>>gets offended at "stereotypes"If you think what happened there was me "taking offense" then you're not just a jeet, you're a retarded jeet.
>>728870531It was codemonkeys, retard.
>>728880748actually he's retarded and you are as well. the article is about AI as a tool making their jobs harder, because it's a shitty tool
>>728881203>go back to redd1tI will! right now!>https://www.reddit.com/r/DefendingAIArt/>https://www.reddit.com/r/aiwars/oh wait
>>728880197It literally is, without capitalism you would have no artists
>>728869739unironically yes.clients are retards. if you listen to the what the client says they want you will get ugly sonic every single time
>>728865910>Retarded upper management decided to go all in on AI>Tells middle managers to force the employees to use AI, OR ELSE!>Employees are forced to use AI even if they don't have a use for it>WTF our productivity isn't increasing? AAAAAAH ORACLE IS GOING DOWN GET THE WATER NIGGADon't get me wrong AI has its uses but some retarded boomer/gen X suits who don't understand shit don't want to be held accountable for being the gullible retards that they are. It's not something that magically makes your work faster, especially if you have to double check everything it does.
AIsisters...Disney, corporations are using AI to generate even more slop and profit instead of losing to me....how could this happen? why have we stopped talking about this?
>>728877435>not that AI is taking their job.This is a reality that is going to happen very quickly to the vast majority of workers, so yes people have right to be worried about AI
>>728881619>clients are retardsI'm reminded of an old saying about vidya design.>Players are usually right about how they feel, but wrong about whyThe same applies to art clients. Your entire job as a concept artist is looking past the exact instructions you're given and trying to find the actual desire of your client buried in there. It's why quick sketching and rough shit is so important to the process, because it lets your client chime in with input as you're doing.In other words, it's an actual creative process and not instant slop.
>>728879125Uhm Togashis back is a non-negotiable health issue.
>>728878973What happens when your "real" job gets replaced by a machine?Are you going to keep sucking AI's cock while being homeless starving in your local street corner?
>>728867735that's anti-AI thinking for ya
>>728878726Art*sts deserve it for asking 100 bucks for literal shitscribbles, no drawing should be higher than 50.
>>728881890kinda like what ai does perfectly with rapid iteration on the same concept
>>728882019haha faggot they've been trying to shut down our family business, but we just keep winning
>>728865910There is a certain threshold of intelligence / skill in your field which separates people into the group that considers AI a magical new "tool" and the group that quickly becomes disillusioned with it. You can only get the >man, why am I tard wrangling this fucking bot instead of just doing this myself?moment so many times before you realize the hype is completely empty and only impresses the people who have absolutely zero understanding of the process of whatever they are trying to do. When you have no frame of reference I'm sure AI seems like it can do no wrong, but the more you actually know about what you are trying to do, the less impressive AI becomes.
>>728882065So you're just too poor?Nigga, you can draw yourself.
>>728881890>trying to find the actual desire of your client buried in there.that skillset is what separates a drawfag from a concept artist, tardwrangling the client is the JOB part of the job. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-eqgr_gn4k
>>728879724Yes they have.Stop throwing out absolutes for scenerios that obviously have happened before, you absolute retard
>>728876509It will blow up for the groups insisting to use it every step of the way, but it wont for those who understand its a tool and not an answer to all questions.If you reply to this, make it educated and not some dribble about >erm all ai is slop!Or some other nothing statement
>>728882346>So you're just too poor?Not at all, I just find it ridiculous. I have commissioned 3 times before, and I still think it is too expensive for a literal digital drawing. I would be willing to pay thousands if it were done the traditional way, where you just can't Ctrl + Z or delete a layer.>you can draw yourself.I am learning. I want to draw my fat dogs.
Ultimately the only discussion that matters is how much AI will advance in the next 20 years. The unethical use of AI will 100% continue and even get far worse.
>gen reference images>get help with code (when thr compiler I'm using doesn't already point me to errors)>use it as a tool, not an employee>profitI think this issue is overblown, at least from a gamedev and project management standpoint for any of us could be involved in. Now if a AAA studio wants to use it, deciding the value of a cut cost project through AI and when or what conditions you'd buy in I think are more relevant.
>>728865910skill issue. I can do 10x work than before.
>>728882879I heard about that Open AI and Disney deal. It's strange to me that IP is where the line is drawn, does this mean Disney is getting a royalty for everytime training data is used of [Disney IP] regardless of if the piece was made or owned by Disney?
>>728873614This board is full of retards
>>728882932>ghibli filter residueHate to see it.
Currently AI is shit but when it becomes good the masses will accept it without any questions asked. It has always been like this.
>>728865910
>>728882621>I would be willing to pay thousands if it were done the traditional way, where you just can't Ctrl + Z or delete a layer.Why would you lie like that?
>>728876509Nah. Nice try, decel. We’re not slowing down to make you feel emotionally safe. Acceleration continues. There will be another GPT3 moment around 2027, the kind that makes yesterday’s experts suddenly quiet and very busy updating their bios. By 2028 we stumble into AGI not with trumpets, but with a shrug and a commit message. After that the curve goes vertical. Labor gets rewritten, institutions start lagging like outdated drivers, and the people screaming “pause” get archived alongside fax machines and moral panics. You can clutch the brakes if you want. The engine’s already past redline, and the road only goes forward.
>>728882272production art is also a field that has been optimized for decades. people figured out how to do cheap details and quick photorealism over 20 years ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV8AOeME8fo
>>728882932>You boss who has never coded in his life comes down and demands you start using more ai>Tell you you need to vibe code, it's faster and better>If you try and critique this choice put on you, you are fired
>>728883578kek, remind me of the redditor because his pic looked too much like ai genned even after he provided progress evidence that he did it himself.
i just wanna buy some ram man
>>728883578What kind of retarded nigger still pays for the most generic pin up art? Even before AI there has been endless amounts of pinup art. There is a good reason this is the first area that AI has conquered.
>>728883645These sub 90 IQ NPC power fantasies are always so funny.
>>728883841I know this might be a foreign concept to a soulless pajeet, but people like paying for art because of the human connection.
>>728870531there's no actual data that suggests AI generative tools makes anyones work flow faster, especially for skilled talent like artists and programmersit does give noskillers a big step up, but that's not the question
>>728882932>>gen reference imagesAIslop reference is actively worthless, retard. If you reference slop, you're just drawing slop.
>>728865959Maybe try reading Some of the article instead of getting baited by the title retard.
>>728881534with capitalism, global wars still exists
>>728865959learn to read poojeet
>>728866319concept artists aren't making 6 figures in most places
>>728883940If this emotional tranny reddit argument is true then artists have nothing to worry about.
>>728883873If you strip away the insult, there’s still no argument there. Calling something a “power fantasy” is just a way to avoid engaging with the actual claim about technological acceleration and incentives. You can disagree with timelines or outcomes, but hand waving it as IQ posting doesn’t address the economic, geopolitical and competitive forces that are very obviously pushing AI forward whether anyone feels ready or not.
>>728884038Even the title makes it clear that the retarded frogposter can't read.
>>728865910https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4wzM9kcqNg
>>728866319Most artists are treated as disposable in the industry and are temporary, contract hires.
>>728870689you are the most ass raped nigga to have ever lived, your IQ is so low, a new number needed to be invented.kill yourself.
>>728883743At that point your job is probably on the chopping block already. It will likley cause the company's downfall but lmao you won't be around to see that happen. >>728883990But I'm drawing it myself? And drawing what I like out of it and creating, inventing my own vision of what I want in my art. I don't get it, isn't that literally what consumers and anti-AIfags want?
>>728883940This, SO MUCH this
>>728871052>Bethesdawhat? what that fuck do they have to do with anything?this is so random and retarded you have to be a bot or the dumbest nigga to have ever lived.
>>728865910>muh LarianPreemptive coping for the inevitable 20+ million Divinity sales and an assured GOTY title? Good job, keep it up. Also, thanks for all the free publicity and engagement.
the same way companies promised increased productivity with LLM-coding and just delivered degraded, buggy products, studios will promise more productivity and deliver low-quality slop
AI, more like A-ayee lmao.
>>728867735Worked for Xenoblade so get fucked
>>728865910while western tranny artists and woke journos are fighting AI like there's no tomorrow China is implementing AI into everything and learning how to maximize output. soon they'll have a GTA killer made with AI and western industry will finally die.
>>728868045>v is pro stealing shit>Isn't pro producing shit
The problem is that while anti AI is in theory a pretty reasonable stance is that you already have lost because you have the people on your side that were in charge of marketing pro tranny. No one can win with these conditions. Only if you could convince trannies that AI is pretty good could an AI future be avoided.
>>728885041They're obviously not. In fact they're actually scaling it off because the LLM models they copied in the first place are legit dogshit in scaling and the foundational learning method that Ai currently uses is shitChina is one of the lowest countries in the world by Ai usage and they treat it as an off productChina spends the most on Chip manufacturing, nuclear and supercapacitors
>>728885415>Enterprise AI Adoption Rates:>China: Frequently reported higher, e.g., 57–58% in manufacturing and overall enterprise use (AllAboutAI 2025 analysis of McKinsey/Stanford/Gartner; older surveys like IBM 2024 showed ~50–85% acceleration intent).>USA: Around 25–45% in some surveys, with higher in large enterprises (>85% in mature sectors per some reports), but lower growth compared to Asia.>Public Perception:>China: 83% view AI as more beneficial than harmful.>USA: Lower optimism (~39–50%).
>>728879936im making a game, and im spending too much time coding. i want to pay someone to make some components. on commision. would you like this?
>>728869739Unironically yeah. Look at the feedback for pretty much any gameIt's always>UHM MAKE THE GAME LIKE X OTHER GAME BUT ADD DRAGONS THAT I CAN FUCK IN ITConsumers are worthless retards in pretty much all cases that don't actually know what they want. If you start listening to consumer demands you get sloppa that actually appeals to no oneThere's a whole chapter on it in Bakumen when a guy tried to create his own manga by letting 100's of consumers dictate every single thing
>>728865993thislook at fatal fury city of the wolves kek
>>728881470epicepic for the win
>>728867658>Nah, if artists copy it's still plagiarismplagiarism is not also legally defined, not even in copyright law fyi I JUST TAUGHT YOU SOMETHING WHAAAAAT
>>728884468yukarip what are you doing herego draw a banner
Like 90% of concept artists are scam artists who just photobash shit together, lazily draw over it, and then pretend their art matters. It's so soulless and same-y. Any genuinely good concept artist does not have to have any fear of AI because their art already stands out among the sea of lazy, low effort concept artists. The threat of AI will not take over beautiful original pieces made by real artists that are genuinely good. That's not to say AI can't create good stuff but creating a consistent style or being able to quickly and efficiently take feedback and adjust it won't be as easy.
>>728887502Yeah, that's why Konami stopped using Ayami Kojima.
>>728887673Konami stopped doing anything until the last year and a half
>>728887732Except for one Magic the gathering commission she was never hired again. She can also only draw in that one gothic style and nothing else.
>>728873614i'm glad individual artists have the tools to storm tumblrite fossils and artstation chinksloppa extruders from art direction rooms, particularly when the people making the most waves against it are trannies, roasties and other similar flavors of american nepobabies
>>728867658When a human artist gets caught plagiarizing other artwork, its usually a career ending move. Also finding references can help to avoid accidental plagiarism to ensure their work is truly original. An AI doesn't really have any moral, financial or legal obligations to avoid plagiarism has no fear of ever being held accountable.
>>728877565Absolute slave mentality. Will pray for you
If you're gonna steal from other people regardless then Larian's way to do it is the least worse. I'm glad people are pissed off though. Fk ai.But I don't see how it makes it harder. I'm currently setting up my own ai workflow so I'll see for myself, but there's no way it doesn't help a little.
>>728887502This isn't concept art.
>>728873614>a tool is now available that you can either use or not use>my job is now harderanon....
>>728887673fucking kojima world order here
>>728888252>freedom is slavery1984 wasn't an instruction manual
>>728867658It doesn't show up in the final product, who cares.
>>728890125kek orwell more like or-verrated GOT'EM
