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Expedition 33 is the best JRPG to come out in the past 20+ years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_G2a-p2S1PU
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It's already been said a lot but they did basically everything that Squeenix says doesn't work anymore
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>>728875721
Yea, well i have a problem with everything and i also have a problem with this.
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>>728875721
Not according to metacritic.
So the same journos that have e33 goty.
If you deny this, you can't claim goty either
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>>728875721
Not even best JRPG from the last two years.
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>>728875928
>that have
*that gave
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They're really shelling out money for these accolades for the studio
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Buy an ad china
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people that don't play games shouldn't be taken seriously when it comes to rating games
tlou is another disgusting pile of garbage that is somehow rated highly by non gamers
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>>728876085
buckbroken faggot cope LMAO
>>728875963
post playtime of both Metaphor and E33.
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>>728875721
Confirmed not a JRPG and to be shit. Thanks.
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>>728875963
Metaphor is dogshit compared to e33
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>>728876109
what about people who DO play games? here's my 2025 completions. E33 deserved every award it got and is one of the greatest jrpg's of all time
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>>728875963
Sorry I just realized I was sorting by the LGBT journalist score and not by the correct metric, USER score. How foolish of me I would never care about a journalists opinion because they don't play games.
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>>728876405
>phoneposter
>user score
Very brown behavior.
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>>728876405
In that case e33 doesn't have goty.
After all the journos are lgbt
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>>728876558
You're using a website that has majority phone posters. Very brown behaviour.
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>>728876610
>behaviour
Good morning, Dagesh saar
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>>728876558
>he cares more about what journalists tell him rather than people who play games
Kek THAT'S brown behavior.
>>728876597
I don't care about goy of the year awards. The only metric that matters are user based ones. Especially ones that require you to buy the game like on steam.
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>>728876405
Plenty of trannies play games, though.
Also user scores can be skewed because of fanboyism. Which e33 clearly has many of.
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>>728876691
Review bombing and fanboyism mean that user scores are not reliable.
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>some youtuber cunt with a huge axe to grind and anime derangement syndrome says
literally nobody who plays JRPGs cares
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>>728876801
>people who like and hate the games opinions matter less than people paid to say it's good
Are you genuinely retarded. Review bombing and fanboyism is organic passion towards or against the game. Journalists are doing this for MONEY.
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>>728876691
>>he cares more about what journalists tell him rather than people who play games
>Kek THAT'S brown behavior.
Looks like the entire E33 fanbase consists of brownoids, mutts and jeets then lmao
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>>728875721
I think it's the best jrpg of all time personally, chrono trigger is very good but the combat is showing its age.
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>>728876405
LMAO. I don't care if e33 fanboys give the game a 10/10
Review scores are not reliable if a game has a large number of fanboys.
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>I think it's the best jrpg of all time personally, chrono trigger is very good but the combat is showing its age.
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>>728875721
It is. And I am not ashamed to admit that.
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>>728877036
Fanboyism will overinflate the review scores of games.
It might be organic, but that doesn't mean it's reliable.
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>>728875721
I like how its says "Chained Echoes" as if anybody knew what that irrelevant game even is. lol
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People hating on e33 using game critics to support their views surely is a sign of how deranged they are.
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>>728877296
>X group of people are deranged because they don't like something I like
Child brained logic
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>>728875721
then say "streamlined RPG" instead of Japanese you dumb mongs
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>>728877296
But I thought game critics were le good after the Geoff awards.
>inb4 I PERSONALLY don't care about critics
Yeah yeah we know, Patel. We know.
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>>728875721
It's so fucking funny to me that all Japan ever had to do to win the hearts of normalfags everywhere is just add Dark Souls parrying to their RPGs.
Truly the Dark Souls of jarpigs.
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>>728877242
>the better metric is when a journalist gets paid to give a score to a game
You can keep complaining all you want but the reality is we have 2 metrics. One where people tell you what they think about a game, and one where people are paid to tell you what the company wants. I don't care if you dislike user scores, but if you can't admit journalist scores are worth less you're being disingenuous.
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>>728875721
Only RPGs made by Japanese people can be considered JRPGs.
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>>728877267
it's a better jrpg than any final fantasy since 10 and fatlus game since p4, thoughbeit not a japanese one
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>>728877483
if you think people like it because of the parrying and wouldn't like it just as much without it then you're a retard
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>>728875721
Well yeah. It is paced like an older final fantasy game. Has a lot of older final fantasy conventions, stuff like Pictos are basically materia with a more limited scope but also giving more stats, it has a proper world map with an "Airship" something that final fantasy hasnt done since IX and it has a more "Mature" story.

I dont think it is as good as a lot of the "Golden Age" Squaresoft games, but you have a combination of disenfranchised oldheads who have been tired of the series since XII and new zoomers that never experienced a JRPG like the old final fantasy with 2025 production values, be that a good or a bad thing. Its a fine game and it is very easy to see why it caught on with so many people. Square Enix are a bunch of retards, and I for one am very happy to see them go through this humiliation ritual
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>>728877390
Nah I don't mind if people dislike e33 and give a reasonable reason for it, that just doesn't happen very often. Most people on /v/ who hates it are completely deranged in their hatred.
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>>728877670
this, which is why >post playtime is undefeated
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>>728875721
I don't give a shit what people say. A JRPG to me must be an RPG made in Japan. E33 is a great game, but it is not a JRPG.
Hate browsing the JRPG tag on Steam and finding literally who western RPG slop games instead of finding japanese games.
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>>728875721
>AI slop
Kek
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>>728877784
that misnomer literally died with Undertale
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>>728877483
People like it because it's not made by the Japanese. Adam Sessler was the least racist gaming journalist.
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>>728875721
No that's Andrew's game.
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>>728875721
you mean a iRPG. indian RPG
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>>728877521
Journo scores are only unreliable when there is some sort of political controversy / issue associated with the game, like in the case of da veilguard.
User scores are unreliable when there is a large amount of fanboys associated with a game. These fanboys will actually review bomb other games to boost their own, as well as overinflate the scores of the games they like. This is clearly the case with e33. The game has a lot of fanboys.
So for e33 metacritic is more reliable
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>>728877929
Undertroon
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A JRPG does not have to be made in Japan to be considered a JRPG. Expedition 33 and countless indie games are proof of that.
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>>728877483
Parrying is definitely not what makes the game great to people who love it, it's the story, dialogue, characters, art and world design.
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>>728877636
nta but I probably wouldn't have finished it. JRPG's that don't do anything more than: select attacks > watch animations play out > repeat tend to bore me into dropping them after a handful of hours.
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>>728878013
No, journalist scores are objectively unreliable because money is influencing their decision in some way shape or form. If your review and score does not solely come from your feelings then it's irrelevant.
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>>728875721
>WRPG
Expedition 33
>JRPG
Elden Ring
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>>728878151
>because money is influencing their decision
User scores can also be inflated by bots.
Once again, I don't care if e33 fanboys give the game a 10
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>>728877997
Based Andrew's Game enjoyer, but I don't know if I'd call it the best in 20 years.
That said I'm also not a job absolutist, I'd understand that opinion if you were.
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>>728878225
Fortunately for everyone with functional brains, what you think does not matter. It won your journoslop awards while also topping user scores. Regardless you lost
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It's impossible for chrono trigger to age
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>>728877929
Undertale is a turn-based RPG, it is not a JRPG.
Final Fantasy 1 is a turn-based RPG, and also a JRPG.
Dark Souls is an action RPG, and also a JRPG.
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>>728878325
Nah, journos don't agree with you that it's the best jrpg, and I don't care what fanboys say.
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>>728878151
>journalist scores are objectively unreliable because money
I agree, the nepobaby probably has been paying for all awards.
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>>728875721
>westoid game
>jrpg
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>>728878151
all reviews are unreliable so you just have to look at both journo scores and user scores while understanding the downsides of each
the full picture tends to tell the whole story
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>>728875721
Is anyone arguing against that?
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>>728880020
yes, /v/. look at this thread
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>>728880020
It is the same AI that recommend you to put glue in pizza sauce.
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>>728877636
someone who needed parrying to make a jrpg palatable to them would not admit that, obviously. Its clear to anyone who plays JRPGs that E33 is as popular as it is at least 50% due to how easy it is. Yes the story and pacing and atmosphere are great, it would be slightly less popular if it was hard as metaphor for the average normie.
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>>728880616
>Its clear to anyone who plays JRPGs that E33 is as popular as it is at least 50% due to how easy it is.
you're a fucking retard, kek
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>>728880775
you are hurt, that's okay. Personally I like the game but I also like making fun of casuals. You like it normie reasons, you lose, I win
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>>728878379
>JRPG stands for Japanese Role-Playing Game, a genre characterized by deep, linear stories, anime-inspired characters, turn-based or tactical combat, and progression systems (levels, stats). While it literally means an RPG made in Japan, the term also describes games sharing stylistic elements with classics like Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest, focusing on character development and rich narratives rather than open-world freedom, even if made elsewhere.
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>>728875721
>Expedition 33 is a JRPG
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>>728878379
only people who don't play jrpg's think this, kys
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>>728878379
>Dark Souls
>JRPG
>RPG
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>>728878379
Dork soles is an Action JRPG.
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>>728881231
It's an action game with very weak RPG elements. I wouldn't consider it a JRPG nonetheless a fucking RPG either.
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>>728881389
>choice
>player agency
>actions affect the world and poeple who live there
>multiple classes
>experience and levelling up
>various different skills and spells
>wide variety of equipment
>branching paths and hidden secrets

>weak RPG elements

In what fucking universe?
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>>728878379
Based and correct nomenclature pilled.
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>>728881515
You'd think it's pretty obvious that the J means Japanese.
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>>728881501
All that but lacking a narrative and story just makes it a game with numbers which isn't much of a rpg to begin with.
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Smt5 really shot itself in the foot with its protagonist design. Its probably the best turn based RPG of all time in terms of gameplay and people won't give it a shot because the nahobino looks so off putting
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>>728881389
It has literal roles (classes) stats (STR, INT, DEX etc) levels (for you and for your gear) questing (with fail states)

By all accounts it is an RPG it is also made in Japan by Japanese people so is a JRPG, its western graphic style don't affect that it was made in Japan, exactly like Dragon's Dogma another Action JRPG.
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>>728881892
>From games
>classes
No
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>>728881779
It's full of story, retard.
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>>728882113
Story isn't item description collectathons you fucking child. Go back to Banjo Kazooie which is more of a RPG than souls trash at least.
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>>728881873
SMT5 is fucking boring as sin. Its not even as good as 3 or 4 (both) and it has no atmosphere to boot
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>>728882441
Name one video game with a story then.
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>>728882578
Xenoblade which is an actual JRPG.
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>>728882547
Blame that retarded “open world” shit.
Different colors of desert sand.
Gameplay is lit for SMT.
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>>728882660
What choices do you make in Xenoblade? It's an on rails action game with only one path and ending, it's basically a visual novel with some half baked MMO-lite combat sprinkled between on your commute from cutscene to cutscene.
In no imaginable way is that an RPG.
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>>728881892
If Dark Souls is a JRPG then I could safely say that Battlefield is a WRPG because it has leveling and classes while also originating from the west.
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>>728882702
There are many things to blame. You can have an open world WITH atmosphere. The combat isnt that big of an improvement from its predecessors either, and the trade off is far too large.

The best turn based combat system was unironically Scarlet Grace (maybe emerald beyond now, I havent played it) but the problem is Scarlet Grace's combat comes at the cost of everything else that isnt music. God that game is ugly
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>>728882741
jrpg's don't have choices, or if they do there's like 1 choice. chrono trigger, suikoden, final fantasy games etc. it's just a story told to you. And e33 is the same, which is why it's a jrpg.
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>>728882101
Yes, the game railroads you into focusing your resources into a specific class setup, take for example an INT based character, they will play ranged and won't be able to wield most massive weapons because they want their points in INT to deal damage.

Then you have STR they can use heavy weapons and heavy shields and are all about super armor and high melee damage

DEX are fags who use small but fast weapons like straight swords while faith is gay ass miracles

Then the game basically locks you on a weapon class that you like because the higher quality upgrade materials are limited per run.

So you end up having a very specialized character at the end of the game.
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JRPG is a visual novel with turn based combat segments.
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western gamers/devs ability to find any reason to hate anything japanese is genuinely impressive, they've been doing this for decades now.
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>>728882837
Anything with levels and statistics that affect gameplay performance directly is an RPG
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>>728876194
honestly your opinion should be respected even less because you have zero fucking standards
I would take the opinion of someone who doesn't even know what a jrpg is rather than accept anything you say as valuable
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>>728877605
I would put 12 and 13 (despite its shortcomings) above Chained Echoes, but I do think it's a good game.
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>>728882871
If any "class" can equip everything and do every action another class can do, then they aren't classes.
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Expedition 33 is a good game but it's gonna be like Persona 5 and Final Fantasy 7 or Baldur's Gate 3 for a western example in that it's ostensibly the peak of its genre but its fanboys really don't fucking play anything else in said genre.
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>>728884935
none of FF7, P5, or E33 are overrated. they really are all that good.
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>>728884823
Ok, try swinging a Smough's hammer as an INT character, you will need 39 STR to two hand it, but as an INT character you can't afford to waste that many levels on STR.
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>>728875721
I wish I enjoyed jrpgs but by the time I unlocked the little girl I had already grown tired of the combat.
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>>728882841
I like the pop-up book aesthetics of SSG and there's very little that can rival it the depth in terms of player choices and freedom outside of EB which is just a direct successor to the tabletop JRPG formula of SSG.
There's also much uglier games out there, Nocturne, SJ or FE3H for instance, I'll take a game with low budget visuals but excellent gameplay and roleplaying over shallow eye candy any day of the week.
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>>728875721
I like Persona more
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>>728877164
I played it
Dont understand the GOTY thing
Its a well made game in era of trash games and remakes
Gaming is at all time low with this final fantasy crap is peak gaming
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>>728886338
>this final fantasy crap
you must be 18 years old to post here, faggot
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Are they making any DLCs or anything? Don't wanna play it until it's done
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>>728886617
they released a free update but it's not story relevant just a new area and some bosses. you don't have to wait, the story is open and shut in the base game
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>>728875721
>TGAs anounce E33 is the wiener of the year
>Everyone on /v/ shits on it before and after the even
>New captcha rolls out
>Shilling slows down significantly
>Everyone on /v/ shits on it still

Clear evidence that the shills are midwits and can't figure out the new captcha system. Sandfall doesn't have enough funding leftover to buy them all passes.

>>728886617
If you count the movie that's being worked on before the game even released as DLC, then you gotta keep waiting. Then you have to wait for the GOTY edition.
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>>728887098
>>Everyone on /v/ shits on it before and after the even
source: it came to me in a fever dream
post arm so i can laugh at the melanin contents
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E33 is pushed by shills and brown Europeans
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>>728887174
>source
I'm shitting on it right now.

>>728887269
>English text in background
Certified whites dislike the game.

Still zero shills have posted arm with timestamp.
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>>728875721
No it's not and I'm not buying it. Played Act 1 on gamepass and it's shit. T. Finished rebirth and about to start Metaphor this weekend.
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>>728876671
British are brown now ?
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>>728887483
The devs for E33 are 99% brown or swarthoid. The fact shills call them white is telling
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>>728876117
>dresses up like a surrender monkey
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>>728887483
Always has been. Have you not seen the new BBC(british broadcasting corporation) shows out?

The French are even browner thoughbeit.
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>>728875721
I am never going to play this game, I hate its fanbase so much.
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>>728887269
post beak, Jason
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>>728887537
these 3 monkeys combined have less IQ than the average E33 enjoyer
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>>728878379
imagine taking genre names literall, ignoring all context
unreal tournament and street fighter are mobas by definition but you'll be laughed at for calling them that
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>>728885467
>as an INT character
Can INT characters put points into strength? Yes or no. I don't arbitrary limitations and qualifiers.
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>>728887753
no thats gay like DEX
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>>728875721
It's not even the best JRPG this year, that's the Trails in Sky remake.
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>>728887828
nah, Sky 1st Chapter is god tier and the gold standard for remakes but it's still not as good as E33 as a standalone game. it's literally half of a game that ends on a cliffhanger
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there is nothing wrong with being brown thougheverbeit
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>>728887743
>these 3 monkeys combined have less IQ than the average E33 enjoyer
>E33 shilling dropped off significantly because E33fags are too stupid to solve captcha
Can't post proofs that his shilled game is actually good.
Can't post proofs he's even white.
Can't even out argue 3 monkeys with a keyboard on /v/.
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>>728878013
journos get paid to finish the game to the credits. their opinion is more valuable than the retards who dropped it before reaching act 3
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>>728887982
you lost and are just fucking embarrassing yourself at this point. lost is an understatement actually, you got bent over and gaped with no lube
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>>728878013
>The game has a lot of fanboys.
Nah other games this year sold like shit. It's like how movie theaters are dying and Chicken Jockey being a thing. A bunch of soibois are making the game their whole personality because they think vidya games are finally becoming art and they want to be the hipsters that adopted it first.
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>>728888309
>33 HOMO MASON brings up ass sex out of nowhere
it tracks johnson
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>>728888365
you lost
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>>728888309
>Taking 5 minutes to solve the captcha and reply with same spam images and copypasted response
They really aren't sending their best and brightest. France is no longer France.

Post arm with timestamp btw.
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>>728888338
bunch of them hotpocket boys like you also ordering pizzas and moms dinner and sushi from the gas station pretending games no good because you can't stand liking sometihng that other people like your entire identity is based on IM NOT LIKE THE OTHER GIRLS so even when something is good you cant like it if too many other people like it you listen to Jap music but not big bands like The GazettE or Dir En Grey because they're too popular hell even Maximum t he Hormone to mainstram for your gay ass so you gotta hate e33 or your self estteeem GO AWAYS and you will not be able to sleep
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>westerners insist on calling Japanese games JRPGs when they're just RPGs
>westerners also insist on calling their non-Japanese games JRPGs when they're not Japanese
What is their fucking problem, why does our society hate words so much.
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>>728875815
S-E does make turn based games though
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>>728888516
Holy run on sentence batman. Someone's having a melty.

>your entire identity is based on IM NOT LIKE THE OTHER GIRLS
You're describing yourself though? "I'm not like the other gamers, I love le heckin French fine art vidya with le miserable story"

>>728888583
Trannies and liberals are the usual suspects. They have to change the meaning of everything. IE they used to call minorities Colored People, but then it became a microagression when racists started using the phrase. Then it became People of Color, then that became a microagression. Now It's Black Indigenous People of Color.
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>>728884823
holy shit you are illiterate
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>>728888309
Anon, two questions you're going to have to answer before anything you say can be taken seriously. (1) In your opinion is that man in the picture white? And (2) is that man in the picture more or less white than you?
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>>728888646
their last turn-based rpg with a real budget was over 8 years ago
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>>728889116
Octopath 2 was 2 years ago
>muh budget
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>>728889037
yes he's White but he's less White than me since i have blue eyes. our hair is the same color though
and yes i've posted my blue eye here a few times
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>>728889218
>and yes i've posted my blue eye here a few times
With timestamp tho?
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>>728889037
>And (2) is that man in the picture more or less white than you?
I'm the whitest man on earth I burn in the moonlight my skin like frozen milk underwater and you dont know whats going on thats plain to see I look at you and I see you play art games maybe old fishing games on the ps2 but thats about it nothing with any real substance or purpose kinda like a house that looks like a house outside it has walls and windows and a roof but then you go inside and theres nothing in there not even any other walls but there's a basement and you look downstairs and theres nothing there either just a big open empty space kinda like your fuckin skull when i get done with it
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>>728889438
do you think i found a blue eye with the words "E33 WON NIGGERS" written next to it somewhere else on the internet?
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>>728889573
Cool. So it wouldn't be hard for you to post again, but with timestamp this time.
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>>728889660
no it wouldn't, but i'm not going to because i already won.
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>>728889218
There are tribes of black people who naturally have blue eyes anon.
>>728889449
I'm not familiar with that copypasta
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>>728889713
I accept your concession.

E33 is a non-white game, made by non-whites for non-whites and shilled by non-whites because non-whites are desperate to be white.
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>>728889845
stay seething, buckbroken melaninoid
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>>728875721
After all the shilling and pushing this game, this finally convinced me to actually get it. You never know if something is good if it's incessantly shilled for, but it most likely is when these kinds of people start to hate it.
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>>728889959
There's only like 6 white people in that photo
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>>728889959
>I'll just keep posting these ((white)) people I'm desperate to be like
>Through my own shitskin logic that will mean I'm winning
YWNBAW. You will never be a White.
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>>728890097
mind status: broken
buck status: broken
stay seething
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>>728890071
>the French aren't white!
t. south American/Mexican/Turk/Jew
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>>728890051
>Surely these twitter screenshots will win over the fence sitters

>>728890232
>>728890195
No need to keep talking about yourself like that. We can already tell.
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>>728887753
STR governs damage for melee weapons that scale with it, but also governs if you can even wield a weapon effectively at all.

Thing is that an INT character can just take a short sword and use it to finish off weak monsters while deploying long range nukes on everything else, they have no use for STR at all, else you end up like the faggot in this image.
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>>728890195
>>728889573
>>728889218
>Claims to have post his blue eye here
>Composer has blue eyes
Hahahah. Learn how to perform better faggot and maybe your wife will perform with you rather than Tyrone.
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>>728875721
>parrying
>jrpg
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>>728888412
Big oof.
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>typical E33 fan skin color
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I thought JRPG meant an RPG made in Japan
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>>728891754
JRPG stands for Japanese-like RPG
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>>728891754
Dark Souls is made in Japan, is it a JRPG?
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Nah Persona 3 was lit
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>>728891898
Of course. Why wouldn't it be?
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>>728892058
whatever dipshit retard actually thinks this doesn't actually play JRPG's and thus their opinion on the genre's naming conventions can fuck off
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>>728889193
Game for paedophiles.
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>>728892149
Okay, nigger.

Btw Monster Hunter World won best RPG
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>>728892278
ok faggot how is that relevant? Monster Hunter aren't JRPG's either
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>>728875721
>literally who
OP is a gigafaggot, as is ever true
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Shill got real quiet after this post >>728890784

https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/726607884/#q726654579
I might have face blindness but the eyes, eyelid, and eyebrows match. Kek.
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ITT: autists triggered their buzzword doesn't have meaning anymore
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>>728892749
Language evolves with time
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>>728892718
Whoops meant to link this one.

https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/726607884/#q726660401
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>>728892718
>>728892793
kek i'm kinda honored you think i'm this gigachad so i'm not even going to argue
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>>728875721
The more I see people suck this game off, the less I wanna play it.
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>>728892985
then don't, your loss

I would fuck you into the dirt in the middle of the road if you had this attitude in front of me, though. Just so you know.
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>>728893056
Go to bad grandpa.
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>>728893056
lmao no you wouldn’t, pussy
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>>728893056
>E33fag immediately thinks about having sex with other men
>Just so you know
We already knew.
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>>728893157
sodomy isn't sex, nice self-report though
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>>728875721
I don't understand how this is controversial at all.
E33 is a JRPG.
FF16 is not a JRPG.
Anyone who disagrees is pretending to be retarded.
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>>728893138
Keep talking, yellow belly. I've taken shits that would put you in the grave.
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>>728893262
E33 is the true FF16 just like Lost Odyssey was the true FF13
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>>728877164
unknown game from unknown dev that came out of nowhere has 9.6 userscore since day 1 of release because of fanboys
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>>728893326
>unknown game from unknown dev that came out of nowhere
>fanboys
pick 1
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I don't understand how this is controversial at all.
E33 is an rpg not made in japan.
FF16 is an rpg made in japan.
Anyone who disagrees is pretending to be retarded.
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>>728875721
Being the best of the garbage heap is not the achievement you think it is.
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>>728893429
>Anyone who disagrees is pretending to be retarded.
First day here?
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>>728892225
We're talking about turn-based RPGs, anon. That's the demographic.
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>>728892225
lol
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is this guy running out of breath talking while walking?
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>>728892909
>refers to himself as a gigachad
>i'm not even going to argue
How pathetic can you get. Lol.

>>728893429
>pretending
Where do you think we are.
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>>728891898
Yes?
Cope

>>728892394
Only because hunting games aren't rpgs.
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>>728894081
looks like he's has a weighted vest too.
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>>728894429
>weighted vest
I have one and sometimes I wear it and crawl around the house for a full body workout. One time I was visiting my mom and I was there alone, she was at work and my siblings were at school, so I was crawling around in my vest and having fun, making weird noises and stuff. Just my underwear and my vest. I like to crawl up and down stairs in the vest for the extra bit of anti-leverage, hitting some different muscles, that kind of thing. So I was crawling up the stairs and making weird monster noises, you know what I'm talking about. I got to the top and heard someone cough. I looked over, and her boyfriend was sitting on the couch, staring at me. We made eye contact for a moment, then I slowly crawled backwards down the stairs (I should crawl backwards more often it hits different muscle groups) and went back to the spare bedroom. I've talked with him many times since but he has never mentioned it.
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Cool game

for sexual predators
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>>728875721
By this logic pic related is also a JRPG. Refute this.
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>>728875721
>20+ years
Still TWEWY. No, I haven't played E33. I'm not going to, either.
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>>728894990
Thoughts on NEO?
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>>728894990
not even the best game on it's own system. DeSu and Radiant Historia mog it
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>>728875721
If it's not made in Japan, it's not a JRPG. Simple as.
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>>728875721
its good but its no persona 5
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>>728882841
I think scarlet grace's artstyle is goofy and I like it but you're right lmao
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>>728894898
>not even veilguard was enough to satisfy this type of person

lmao!
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>>728894898
>no postmenopausal hag representation
uhhh what about the paintress
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>>728875721
It's not Japenese, retard.
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>>728898089
how can you be so sure
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>>728887579
France won more wars than they lost
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>>728875721
naw
Trails (except for daybreak) mogs it
it's still good but not nearly as good as you weirdoes from r/games think it is
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>>728875721
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4wzM9kcqNg
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>>728898275
Calvard arc mogs Erebonia so even your own opinion of Trails is shit
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>>728880616
>metaflop
>hard
the same game that lets you retry any battle at any time?
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>>728898207
>unironically counting the few times their wives doesn't cuck them as a win

>>728898275
>Trails in the Sky already has a decent amount of gooner mods
You have my attention.
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>>728887537
>The devs for E33 are 99% brown or swarthoid
Post a side by side of your arm against the darkest E33 dev. They got sued racial discrimination by the way, and literally threw a non's resume in the trash in front of him.
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>>728898531
Trails is god tier for sexxo mods. that FAGGOT hates the Daybreak games though. sad!
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>>728875721
>>728875963
Granblue relink is better than all those
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>>728898531
>>unironically counting the few times their wives doesn't cuck them as a win
But enough about angloids and germans
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>>728891754
J'Francais Role Playing Game.
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>>728898808
not even a jrpg, it's a fucking monster hunter like. it's a good game but it's multiple tiers below E33 and P5
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>>728875721
It's a hideous UE5 asset flip on the level of complete shovelware like Genius vs Antichrist
I played it for thirty minutes and was absolutely shocked.
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E33 shows that gamers still love Final Fantasy just not the dogshit installments that SE has been shitting out for the last 20 years.
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>>728891754
>>728891898
Yes
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>>728898951
this post reeks of curry
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>>728899051
That's your nails. Wash them.
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Anglosphere golems just keep losing
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23k user reviews on Metacritic and is still sticking at 9.6

That's insane.
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>>728898934
Its considered a Jrpg far better gameplay and better moments then E33 and P5 but i forgot /v/ doesn't give 2 fucks about gameplay anymore as long as you can turn your brain off and be on auto pilot that's all that matters to most of you guys
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>>728898778
I never played the original but it looks like it actually follows the same art direction, instead lazily upscaled shit.
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>>728899390
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>>728893417
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>>728899403
yeah the gameplay is better if you want to play a MH-like, they still have completely different target audiences and genres.
>>728899449
that pic isn't from the remake it's from either Daybreak 2 or Kai (Horizon)
the remake look is very well done though
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>>728875721
Besides the pre defined characters none of those are core jrpgs designs ffs. Just look at nes and snes jrpgs
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>>728899483
ah shit, guess I'm retarded
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>>728875721
Wizardry is the best JRPG, so much so that E33 copied its mechanics from that game.
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>>728899458
>>728899390
Absolutely soulless screenshots.

Does the camera move around at all in E33 to show off cool boss attacks?
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japcels btfo
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>>728898314
i enjoyed it
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>>728899390
the void
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>>728875721
This says more about the genre itself. 4 niggas in a row, 100 hour playtime 99 of which is spent on pressing attack during random encounters, miss me with that gay ass shit.
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>>728899795
yeah, and it also moves for player/party attacks
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>>728900148
These shills need to learn what good pictures look like if they want to promote their game with screenshots. All the ones they post look pretty meh.
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>>728900275
You'd have to take videos, screenshots just can't really capture it
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>>728900375
I don't think so. Tons of games have camera mode now. They claim to love the game's art so much, they should actually learn a little bit about art to make their screenshots look good.
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>>728900275
nobody is trying to get you to play it. if you had the skin color and soul required to appreciate it you would've played it already. it is simply not for you and that's fine!
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>>728900568
You're missing the point. The movement is what really does it. Every type of attack of every party member has multiple different camera movements to go along with it.

You can't judge a song from a single note, and that's what you're asking for with screenshots.
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>>728896658
>visual novel shit
not a jrpg
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>>728876405
I'm surprised tendies haven't review bombed it yet.
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>>728900584
>nobody is trying to get you to play it
Okay then. It's almost like all you're doing is showing off your kindergarten finger painting and expecting us to be awestruck.

>>728900684
>You can't judge a song from a single note
Skill issue.

https://youtu.be/cvd421Jq-Uw?si=iqF6-QxaiXPP6IPN&t=42
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>>728900801
define cutscene
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>>728900684
Then make webms. Oh wait then you'll say that 4chan doesn't let you post webms big enough that do the game justice.

Then post it on youtube. Oh wait then you'll say youtube compression doesn't do the game justice.

Then buy the game. Oh wait then you'll say my pc/console doesn't do the game justice.

Maybe just maybe. The game only looks good in your head.
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>>728901391
definitely just definitely, you're a retard.
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>>728901391
why would i do any of that? E33chads already won. you already got btfo. you're just embarrassing yourself and we are just laughing at you.
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>>728875721
This guy has sex with horses btw.
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>>728875721
Explain in detail about this game's turn-based combat and why it's good, and I might play E33. Be honest in your response and not resort to name calling.
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>>728901452
You're the type of retard that spends $100K on an art degree and still needs people tell(lie) you what good art is. You fell for the marketing and hype like the troglodyte you are.

>>728901470
>E33chads already won.
Sure if that's what you want to believe, but you will never be a woman.
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>>728875721
I hate this game
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E33 feels like a psyop. I played it and it was boring garbage
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>>728901841
i hate plenty of games i haven't played, who am i to judge you?
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>>728900024
I hate this boss fight
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>>728901817
>You're the type of retard that spends $100K on an art degree
what lol
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>>728876176
E33 scored lower, so if Metaphor is dogshit then E33 is worse than that.
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>>728901954
Oh I'm sorry you went to a private university. €300K
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>>728901950
poor Maelle
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>>728875721
It’s just a turn based rpg. This greatest JRPG ever thing is just weird.
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>>728900804
>tendies out of nowhere
Why would they care?
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>>728875928
>All worse than Hades 2

Are JRPGs that bad?
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>>728902008
who scored E33 lower? journalist trannies? care to show the user score reviews? both metacritic and steam, don't leave out either.
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>>728902016
die slut
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>E33 is the greatest JRPG

Hah. Sure thing kid, why not try bucking up your ideas and play a damn grow ass man’s JRPG like one of my games?
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>>728875721
J stands for Indian
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>>728902009
>european
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>728902092
>taking tranny scores for a tranny game at face value
shiggy diggy
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>>728902079
>tendies out of nowhere
E33fags literally have a chip on their shoulder.

They blame tendies, personafags, FFfags, hollow knightfags, bethesdafags, kojimafags, kcdfags, and baldursgatefags that they don't have a perfect score.
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>>728902278
no ones "blaming" you faggots for anything, it's a simple observation due to the sheer quantity of buckbroken faggots that infest this board atm. who else would be this upset?
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>>728902278
you're falling for the tricks.

it's the same thing as people who try to shitpost about Dwarf Fortress and Rimworld in the opposite threads. Nobody actually thinks or feels that way, it's just easy (you)s to pretend you think the other one is inferior because everyone disagrees and gets mad about it
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Reminder that the "you lost" retard who keeps asking for people to post proof that they're white and moves the goalposts while also backpedaling about how they aren't really white and posts the devs pictures is a retarded zoomer mutt that plays dogshit games like FFXIII and thinks he's a JRPG pro.
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>>728875721
Nice (Journalist Role Playing Game) you have there. Mind telling me how you managed to gain so many (((active community members))) to rant and rave about how GREAT the game is?
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>>728902404
>buckbroken faggots that infest this board atm
>atm
These "buckbroken faggots" were here before E33fanboys came along and will be here long after. The only ones infesting this board ATM are you buckbroken faggots that can't handle the fact other people think your game is mid.

>who else would be this upset?
You always seem quite upset. So you?

>>728902523
I'm not. I think it's funny as fuck that they have to keep coming up with random fandoms to be mad because the game is so lackluster there's nothing for them to actually talk about.
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>>728902697
Have you played it?
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>>728881873
No, it's actually just that people don't want turn based RPGs.
The most successful ones are
>Persona
A social sim with JRPG elements
>Expedition 33
A genre mix where the turn based combat is basically irrelevant in the face of the parry mechanic
>Baldur's Gate 3
Mainly beloved for its character writing. I've honestly never seen anyone talk about its gameplay at all, and that's true for Persona as well (and most E33 gameplay discussion is surrounding the parry).

Meanwhile, actual turn based games that came out recently
>Dragon Quest 1-3
Infamously bombed, nobody played them
>Trails in the Sky
Only bought by current Trails fans
>The Hundred Line
Never even broke even, all it did was clear the creator's debts but he still hasn't actually made money from it despite selling out to South America and China for merch
>Final Fantasy Tactics
Nobody even noticed this one came out.

A few others that got completely ignored. DQM from 2024, the Suikoden remasters got zero traction despite how beloved Suikoden II was, SMTV did nowhere near as well as any Persona game and has been forgotten, the new SRW has once again not left its insular bubble of SRW diehards, most people don't even know Etrian Odyssey HD came out, etc.
People do not like JRPGs or turn based games for the gameplay. That's just a fact of life.
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>>728902697
I don’t get it. Sure some of them probably are paid advertisers from India but the games just mid. There’s nothing really special about the story, it looks passable by today’s standards but not amazing or anything and the art style is just eh. Is it just a case of younger guys getting their teeth into their first proper RPG and falling in love with it or what? Because I just found it OK, and a slog at the end.
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>>728902654
i've never backpedaled on anything. i'm done arguing, i've already won. i'm just here to laugh at you. also i've never played FF13 because 12 was such dogshit so nice larp you fuckwit.
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>>728902827
13 is shit, but 33 is slop too.
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>>728902827
>i've never backpedaled on anything
You get assblasted any time anyone posts a white hand and try to insist they're mexican or jewish. You're also a retarded zoomer with shit taste.
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more like gayrpg
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>>728902898
i'd probably agree if my skin was the color of feces, fortunately it isn't so i got to enjoy this masterpiece.
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>>728902742
Not an argument.

>>728902752
>>Final Fantasy Tactics
>Nobody even noticed this one came out.
We had threads about it. They left out some of the WOTL content. It's already been talked about like crazy before it came to PC. It came out and didn't overstay it's welcome like some turbomid games.

>>728902827
12 was good until the 3rd act thoughbeit. Clearly you have shit taste.
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>33 is a good rpg
>I have never played a traditional RPG before, but am aware of the final fantasy series existing
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>>728902981
>i got to enjoy this masterpiece.
>got
>past tense
Other men will take turns enjoying that "masterpiece", while you sit here crying impotently day after day.
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>>728903028
who the fuck are you quoting
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>>728902981
Which JRPGs have you played throughout their entirety prior to completing 33?
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France is gay and Macron is married to a man
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>>728886042
I think the pop up book aesthetic on the map looks great, but the models themselves are like even worse than some of the cheap shit you see on steam and it completely clashes with the style. I think if it was refined even a little bit it could look fantastic. I still played the game and enjoyed it a lot, but the aesthetics hold it back a bit
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>>728902821
It's not even zoomies. It's millennial redditors' first Je r'pg.
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Man E33 niggers are sad
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>>728902981
You lost. You got raped and gaped. We are laughing at you.
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>>728903231
They should be

IM the daddy ‘round these parts.
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>>728903305
good one
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>>728902981
Why is this shitskin so obsessed with trying get people to think he's white?
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>>728902981
E33 haters don't even play RPGs. They live in third-world shitholes, and most of their games are pirated
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>>728902981
>Translation: Now I'm moved to tears when
>Female staring at him with a smirk trying not burst out into laughter at this faggot.
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>>728875721
Not a jrpg.
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>>728903214
Yeah, the models are pretty low quality, but we're talking about a low budget 2016 game on the Vita, not much you can do about those without completely remaking the assets, they still spent time giving them various expressions and unique animations to make each character stand out so it kind of balances out.
Imo the battle arenas are the more glaring visual issue since they're completely featureless round circles, mediocre as they might be at least the characters are expressive.
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>>728903813
E33's voice acting is god tier. I can't name a jrpg with better voice acting!
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>>728875721
E33 is a baguetteRPG
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>>728904654
call me a shill, but it's genuinely the best dialogue I've ever seen in a game. It all feels completely natural.
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>>728875721
Shillslop
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People have yet to explain what makes E33's turn-based combat great. Then again, most turn-based combat sucks because you can easily look up a guide on optimal strategies and the challenge of figuring out how to beat a boss goes away.
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>>728892718
The only people that cares about eye color are actual brownoids. If you are a white you are white and if you aren't you aren't
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>>728904876
FF12 and FF16 have good voice acting, but they're not on the same level as E33
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>>728904945
it's great because you're involved in it. It's not super complicated or high brow, high IQ or whatever. It's like the additions in Legend of Dragoon. It's a small thing that makes a huge difference in how involved you feel in the battles. You're not just pressing the "attack" button, you're actually participating in the attack and the defense.
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>>728904945
it was really fun to mess around with different builds and party compositions, i can't imagine why someone would look up the best builds and ruin it for themselves
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>>728904945
It's Mario and Luigi but simplified. Which is still good but kind of disappointing.
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>>728905194
If I value in having to participate in the attack or defense, I would rather play an action game instead. Those games do a better job at testing your reflexes more than a turn-based game could. And I don't mean Soulslikes, it can be any action game, from FPS to fighting games to beat em ups. So, I don't see the point in adding action elements in a turn-based game. Leave the action elements to action games, and let turn-based games be turn-based IMO.
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>>728902981
>fortunately it isn't so i got to enjoy this masterpiece.
You're a zoomer so you're spiritually a nigger.
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>>728904876
>It all feels completely natural.
It's shitty millennial "relatable" writing that idiot redditors like, which to be fair is E33's target audience.
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>>728905716
No it isn't. There aren't any millenialisms there. What I mean is that the conversations feel natural, like they're between real people. Accidental interruptions, misunderstandings, etc. Not exaggerated or ignored, but just human communication.
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>>728875721
Its barely even an RPG. Its a hallway simulator movie game
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>>728875721
>No Rean
Nah
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>>728905506
The later Mario and Luigis kinda blew but they sure did get creative with the dodges and counters. Shit, Bowser in PiT's epilogue already did a "You don't get a turn" fight and that was only the second game.
Still gotta play Brothership at some point. I keep forgetting about it.
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>>728905834
>No it isn't.
It absolutely 100% is.
>What I mean is that the conversations feel natural, like they're between real people. Accidental interruptions, misunderstandings, etc. Not exaggerated or ignored, but just human communication.
Yes, that's how dumb millennials feel about that kind of writing.
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>>728905194
>it's great because you're involved in it.
Your wife unlock the cock cage so you can play with yourself in the cuck chair when the bull comes over. Wow so involved!!!

>>728905241
Builds don't even matter, even on the hardest difficulty.

>>728905834
>Accidental interruptions, misunderstandings, etc.
And you guys say it doesn't have japslop tropes in it.
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>>728876194
this list includes at least ten games that are better than e33. both ff7s, daybreak 1, both suikodens, stellar blade, fucking smt4 apocolype for god's sake. trails in the sky. i'm just skimming here. you obviously have no standards given how much yakuza slop you consumed but the game with cardboard cutout characters and hackish plot with two good cutscenes in it, simplistic parryslop combat that becomes solved by the end of act 1 and has no means to engage the player beyond piling on the ridiculously contrived elden ring combos. fucking hell you, you might have the worst taste in the world; you'll just play anything. you're like a dog running in a field... the content of the thing is of no concern. all video games is just slop to consume in a lurid haze like the average normie watching reality tv slop. it's disgusting and i hate you.

i;m not mad btw
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>>728906045
Hollywood fans detected
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>>728906064
seething
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>>728906170
Nope, sorry. Can't even remember the last Hollywood movie I watched. Maybe Sonic 2.
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>>728906045
>Builds don't even matter, even on the hardest difficulty.
sure but it's still fun to play with
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>>728906170
>Calls us Hollywood fans
>Hollywood is all millennial writing right now
>So we can easily recognize it in other mediums
So you're saying we're correct?

>>728906437
I wouldn't say so. In action games different builds actually play different. Picking different skills/attacks/buffs out of menu isn't mechanically different.
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>>728906674
I've got news for you both. Your legs? Broken. Your location? In the back of my van, but not for long. I'm gonna drop you off in the swamp and let the gators solve this little problem.
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>>728905194
Counterpoint: Pressing a button at the correct time is no more involvement than actually having to think, and at its best JRPG combat is basically a (relatively simple) puzzle game that asks you to use the tools the game gives you to solve each encounter. If you want to bypass that part by pressing X or Square or R1/L1 or whatever at the right time, then what's the point? Just go play an action game with a story.
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>>728875721
anon say 1 years I'm forgotten
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>>728907372
I doubt it. It's been hyped here since it came out.

and IMO that's how you can tell it's for real, nobody was pushing E33 before it was released
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>>728907485
>nobody was pushing E33 before it was released
Aside from the film deal
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>>728907536
sorry but the film deal with /v/ is off. It's over. Not gonna happen. You' have to try harder to see my dick.
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>>728907485
They were pushing before release. They're literally salty about the Oblivion Remaster being released 2 days before their game released. Normal people don't care to remember that shit, but they're the ones that bring up every now and again.

>>728907536
Lol this too.
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>>728906917
The tragic thing about E33 is that without the parry to give low IQs constant gratification the game would have very little gameplay appeal to anyone. It's tired by Act 2, with only slight layers of gimmicky bullshit for each character to trick you into thinking it is more complicated than it is, but which often just restrict the player into a particular order of moves for no good reason. The timed inputs literally are just there to make sure the player remains conscious
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>>728907671
>They're literally salty about the Oblivion Remaster being released 2 days before their game released
I've never heard of this supposed controversy until now, and I've been in a lot of E33 threads. I think you're making things up, anon.
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>>728907734
yeah I saw it mentioned a few times in the first E33 threads when 4chan came back up but there was never any salt. this faggot is completely deluded.
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>>728907719
For me it's more like "if i can parry, why not just let me dodge around and jump? might as well make an action game"
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>>728907671
I don't remember that happening but at the same time the whole "success story" being pushed is highly manufactured and bullshit with lots of missing or misinformation
>Former Ubisoft dev - doesn't mention his role since BRAND MANAGER doesn't look very "indie"
>ONLY a $10m budget - aside from this being bullshit no true indie has TEN FUCKING MILLION to their name
>Director belongs to the richest family in all of France
>Has investors
>Has publisher
>Has film deal already lined up before the game's even out
It's one thing to say the game is good(it is don't get me wrong) but it's a whole other thing to say that the success story is even remotely true.
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>>728908182
you can dodge and jump
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>game releases
>has like 20+ threads in the catalog being aggressively spammed 24/7
This alone put me off the game
Yeah sure it has the cultural appeal of Smash and sold 30x less fuck off
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>>728908189
>>Director belongs to the richest family in all of France
fucking kek. source? I've yet to see a source that his dad's even rich yet it's parroted as gospel by "people" who have never played the game
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>>728908306
but 90% of those threads are complaining about how it's too popular. then 5% are arguing about which ending is better, and the other 5% is arguing about which girl is the hottest
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>>728908367
Uh no I am talking about release time when it was obviously being fucking spammed
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>>728875853
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_GOhDxLRbU
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>>728908263
i meant move around in a 3d field like tales games
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>>728908429
I could explain it to you, but it would be a whole essay and you wouldn't even read it. So, no, it's not what you think.
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>>728908429
so like quite literally every popular new game? it devolved into this >>728908367 which is really why people are sick of the "spam"
most of it has been seethe threads for months at this point
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>>728880885
>irrelevant goybabble
It means what it says. J and W are not genres.
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>>728908475
Delet this video of me. You dont have my permission
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>>728908530
No
Genuinely popular new games get “totally not generals” because everyone wants to congregate where the action is. 20 threads in the catalog is MARKETING
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>>728908686
if jannies did their job the jeet shills would be out of theirs
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I'm not a fan of E33, but JRPGs aren't really that good in the first place. Show me even a single one that's noteworthy. To qualify, it must fit the following:

>no tranime
>no waifus
>no sexualized characters
>less than 10 minute of cutscenes strewn across the entire game
>actually difficult, aka you're not allowed to grind at any point to trivialize encounters
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>>728908330
>Guillaume Broche
>Father - Richard Broche
>Companies owned by Richard - MBO+Investments, SCI MAGAR Real Estate, SC BROCHE and MYRTE INVEST
>Guillaume is an associate of MYRTE INVEST
Additionally
>Started at Ubisoft as an intern
>His first role as an INTERN - assistant creative director
Now explain how a nobody intern got an Assistant Creative Director role as his first ever gig? Later he became a Brand Manager.
No poor fuck living by the skin of his teeth is getting that kind of gig during an INTERNSHIP
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>>728909390
And then he made a bestseller, blockbuster game on a minor budget. Oh noooo!?
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>>728909390
>>Guillaume Broche
>>Father - Richard Broche
i'll stop you right there. source? and no, a deleted reddit post with no source and 20 upvotes is not a source.
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>>728909346
ACfag don't you have a Famitsu thread to post real CP in?
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>>728909647
and then there's this. it doesn't matter how it was funded, who funded it, how rich his dad is, etc. the quality of the game is all that matters
it just makes it even funnier that they state all this shit about his dad like it's a documented fact when there's no proof of any of it
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>>728909773
Ok, how about instead of a Reddit post I give you a French business information site that has MYRTE INVEST's associates
https://infonet.fr/dirigeants/66a98a7b8032d296df98b249/
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>>728909801
>can't list a single good JRPG
Typical. But such is to be expected from such a trash genre.
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>>728909647
Read this first you braindead retard >>728908189
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>>728876405
>higher than the three legendary games below it
Yeah review scores mean nothing. It's objectively worse than Chrono Trigger, Xenogears and Suikoden 2.
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>>728909897
>it's not true and if it is it doesn't matter!
kek
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>>728909971
Okay? Does that change the budget or how good the game ended up being?
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>>728910053
I don't know the budget and neither do you.
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>>728909912
thanks for the source. this is the richest family in france to you? lmfao
>>728910020
yes, unironically.
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>>728909897
Did you or the retard you're responding to read the first post. I said the game's good, I like the game. My issue is with the "story" they're pushing of how it succeeded against all odds when the reality is that damn near all of it is lies and misinformation.
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>>728910053
the game is mario rpg with stock UE5 assets
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>>728910103
Well there's the touted budget and you can disagree with it, but unless you think they're lowballing it to 1/10th the actual budget I don't really give a shit. Even if they actually had a 20 million budget all told, I don't really mind. That's still small by current standards.
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>>728910185
not a indie not a underdog
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>>728910170
Oh, all the nevrons and shit were just bought? From who? I don't really care they used external assets, why does anybody need to handbuild every extraneous part of a game when someone else already made it? It's why the western industries are so horrifically wasteful.
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>>728910259
it was outsourced to turd world asset farms
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>>728910228
Not an indie is debatable, because it had a large budget, a team, outsourcing, etc. but it's objectively an industry underdog. Or do you think a game having any budget at all makes it play alongside EA, Activision, Bethesda, etc.?
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>>728875721
It's not a JRPG because you can negate all damage with QTEs. This means that you don't need to raise your stats to win fights(unless there is some gimmick fight that's a DPS race, haven't played the game). There are some JRPGs that include QTEs, but those usually only reduce incoming damage, not completely negate, which means that you still need to raise your stats to have a fighting chance.
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E33 offered nothing new to the genre.
Its storyline is high school tier misery porn.
The combat is basic bitch tier and a weak parry system doesn't change that.

Normies love it because of the western skin and midwit "deep" story and characters but it offers nothing and does not elevate the genre at all.

Maybe Sandfall will actually try to create a proper RPG someday without stealing literally everything from better games that came before but we'll see.
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>>728910363
>Normies love it because of the western skin
lol dumbass
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>>728910291
I saw a lot of Koreans doing animations, I don't think those are third worlders. Didn't see much else though.
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>>728910363
>>728910340
post playtime
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>>728910328
It had a publisher and a film deal before it even released. That's not independent.
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>>728910053
>Does that change the budget
Anon, most people won't even see $10m in their lifetime. That is NOT an indie budget. Let alone the actual budget. Same as the "only 30 people made the game" lie. No, a fuck ton of outsourcing happened. You just need to look at the credits.
And since you still seem to be adamant about being illiterate I ALREADY SAID I THINK THE GAME IS GOOD. MY SINGLE ISSUE IS THE GAY ASS STORY THEY'RE PUSHING OF SUCCESS AGAINST ALL ODDS.
Since you want to act like a leftist imagine if Elon Musk made a game and it was the best selling game of the year and he said
>Only 20 people worked on it
>It only had a budget of $10m
>The people we got had never worked on games before
Would you believe it?
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>>728910328
>Or do you think a game having any budget at all makes it play alongside EA, Activision, Bethesda, etc.?
Yes I think millions of dollars, 200 employees/contractors and a billion dollar french tycoon family driving the company means you are not a underdog in any venture you pursue.
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>>728910450
0 hours.
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>>728875721
What a terrible take. BG3 is party based with linear act based progression surrounding premade characters. Yet no one would call it a JRPG. Is Saints Row 3 a JRPG because you can get a squad and because the story moves in one direction?
Get a grip.
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it's not JAPANESE though, so it should be called a WJIRPG (Western Japanese Imitation Role Playing Game)
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>>728910328
>but it's objectively an industry underdog
Ah yes, the industry underdog of a BRAND MANAGER
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>>728910471
I don't really care if it was indie or not. I don't think it was. But it's still a really fucking good game, and that's what I care about. It should be what you care about too, but you're too busy being a drama whore.
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>>728910543
dumbest shit i've ever read
>>728910549
retard
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>>728910576
mario parry slop does nothing for me. this your first jrpg?
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>>728910549
>WJIRPG
This tbqh
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>>728910471
Okay, cool, I don't care. It's debatable and I don't care. Revoke their award in your mind, it still beat out every other game ever.
>>728910517
Well then you'd be wrong and retarded, because the industry has dozens of times that at their disposal constantly and E33 went toe to toe with the offerings of much better funded, better staffed, and more experienced studios. Ergo, underdog.
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>>728910693
post your favorite jrpg's so i can laugh my ass off
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>>728910718
nah just got lucky to get swept up in the culture war and became reddits darling child
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>>728910567
Yeah? Wow what a title, did he retain it after he left? No? Underdog?
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>>728910693
no, my first JRPG was Legend of Dragoon
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>>728910718
The only companies in this industry are Nintendo. E33 is way more influential with game journalists.
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>>728910403
>>728910450
>No rebuttal
As expected.
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>>728910804
and you love this crap?
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>>728910718
>get proven objectively wrong
>IT'S STILL DEBATABLE!!!

How? How is it debatable?
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>>728910797
Okay then it's the luckiest game ever. I enjoyed it, and I don't really care if you did or not. Your anger is baffling.
>>728910805
I don't even know what to call this argument. That's crazy that you think Sandfall is more influential than fucking NINTENDO. Don't nintendo have the fastest selling home console of all time or some shit right now?
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>>728910868
Yes.
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>>728910876
the only thing that's objective here is that E33 won the award. get fucked, lmao
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>>728910880
>and I don't really care if you did or not
I think you do
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>>728875721
All the QTEs ruin the game
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>>728910868
yeah, he loves it because he actually played it. you hate it because you are a melanated faggot who hasn't played it
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>>728910893
embarrassing. fucking reddit tier taste
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>>728910901
>journo opinions matter when they justify my fanboyism
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>>728910967
what are your top 3 favorite games?
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>>728910948
>mario rpg UE5!!! dorito pope loves it and so do I!
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>>728910967
imagining your seethe when E33 rightfully ranks near the top of the greatest jrpg's of all time lists in the near future fills me with such joy lmao
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>>728875721
Not a jrpg, baguette piggu.
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>>728911026
reddits all time list with skyrim
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>>728910994
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>>728911031
absolutely buckbroken LMAO
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>>728911062
>gets btfo
>resorts to insults and buzzwords
I accept your concession, Ranjesh.
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>>728911058
reddits, 4chans, journos, etc. doesn't matter what list, it will be near the top of al of them. this game is that good so it is rightfully recognized by all. sorry it mindbroke and buckbroke you you contrarian faggot, but it's time to accept reality
>>728911136
>>gets btfo
how fucking delusional do you gaped faggots have to be to think you have any sort of win at all? the past few months has been one giant humiliation ritual for non-white E33 haters
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>>728911127
It's the new shill tactic since it can be manipulated based on what you ask.
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>>728911186
>this game is that good so it is rightfully recognized by all
What do they know?
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>>728911026
>say game is good, not perfect but not shit either
>only say the success story is made up bullshit
>this causes endless seethe from "totally real fans" that should only care about the game succeeding on it's own merits not some made up sob story
How odd?
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>>728911186
>masses love slop
>masses are mostly brown
>masses heap praise on bad mario rpg outsourced edition
>the haters are the brown ones not me!!!
kek
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>>728875721
it's Game of the Millenium for killing off all the undesirables within the first hour and leaving only a party of straight whites (and a hapa) behind
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>>728910917
Alright.
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>>728911186
>the past few months has been one giant humiliation ritual for non-white E33 haters
That's nice sweaty. All of us white E33 haters are winning thoughbeit.
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>>728911412
post pc specs or ps5 with a timestamp, tendoid. only one of you fat faggots would keep bringing up Mario
>>728911535
post ashkenazi admixture
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>>728875721
(You) LITERALLY can't see the monolith from Lumière. The game itself makes it clear when you go back there. Also, how do the boats go over that? Also, it was the chink's only job to study where to land, why did she pick the literally worst place in the game?
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>>728911628
You don't know what series e33 ripped off? typical e33 "fan"
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>>728911726
look at that ugly UE5 slop
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>>728911734
it's one mechanic for the combat you tendie cocksucker. it has far more similarities with PS1 era FF which is why people like it, faggot
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>>728911935
Has nothing to do with ps1 FF zoomer
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>>728911726
>have a nice artstyle
>smother it in vaseline and fog
Why?
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>>728911935
>it's one mechanic
Yes, it's also the MAIN mechanic for the combat. That's why it's brought up
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>>728911976
fucking kek. i played every ps1 ff on the ps1. i was on disc 3 of ff9 when i got my ps2. strange how every actual long time jrpg fag i know absolutely loves E33 except contrarian brown buckbroken faggots on this shithole board
you and this faggot >>728912064 can post your E33 playtimes at any point btw
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>>728907734
It came up in one or two threads this month and there's been over 10 threads a day. You're not going to read through all of it are you?

>>728908103
>there was never any salt
Maybe in your opinion.

>>728911628
>post ashkenazi admixture
Oh my me, is the E33 fag learning? It can accuse people of being something other than brown?

>>728912016
It's premade assets not artstyle. The vaseline is called chromatic aberration(Into the Spyderverse also had this), it's when different light waves don't hit the same spot after passing through a lens, kind of like how glass prisms create rainbows. They were trying to mimic old French films, when there wasn't better lens technology. I'm surprised they didn't add vignettes.

The volumetric fog is just UE5 garbage and the current trend. Remember when everything used to be brown and bloom?
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>>728912240
>Say I like the game but can see it's blatant points of reference
>Schizo says I hate the game for pointing this out
Hell I wanted them to go DEEPER into the Mario and Luigi gameplay since this is far too simplified which is disappointing since this style of battle is rare enough as is.
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why can't people talk about this game in a normal way
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>>728912529
Shitposting for its own sake.
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>>728912529
it's too popular.
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>>728875721
look outside cameout the same year so not even the best jrpg of the year
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>>728912529
everyone got all the discussion they could out of it over the summer. the game is ultimately pretty shallow though so you're not going to see the same discussion as FFX gets
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>>728912876
Hahahaha, who the fuck discusses FF plots, like really? Hahahahahahahaha.
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>>728913247
I've gone into multiple ffx threads this year that made me realize how much more depth the game has over e33. in the ffx threads people would actually talk about things that were concrete in the story while e33 is all speculation and head canon. is fake depth.
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>>728913423
what's your opinion on the people of Lumiere
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>>728913423
Oh man, that's golden. The one game in the series with the most pernicious fucking headcanon schizophrenia, and you call it concrete. Damn, man. No wonder your entire series got destroyed by some french amateurs. Next you'll say FF14 has a good story.
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>>728876194
Do you game for 12 hours a day or something? How does someone beat 100 games in a year?
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>>728913563
they dont matter and shouldnt even be in the canvas to begin with
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>>728913247
Bruh. There are still people to this day that didn't understand the awkward laughing scene, and thought it was just cringe.

There are still people to this day that weren't aware the Tidus and Yuna fucked while Kimari was watching(it's okay because he's hornless).

>>728913629
>Games you like got destroyed
>You got raped
>You got gaped
Git gud at making arguments zoomie. I know shilling this game is your first job out of college, but your not putting your bachelors in communications to good use.

>french amateurs
>he's still trying to push the indie underdog shit
Oh non non non non non non
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>>728914352
Oh, is the poor wittle underdog largest longest running numbered video game series losing relevance?
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>>728875721
Its not even the best this year
Look outside is better
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>>728914728
anyone who's played FF7 knows it's so superior to forgotten 33 that it's laughable
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>>728914728
I'd try to get a refund on that degree. You must really be strapped for cash if you're still shilling this shit after TGAs and this close to Christmas.

>>728914818
Even the Looney Tunes schizo theories about FF8 are still fun to talk about.
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>>728914849
>Even the Looney Tunes schizo theories about FF8 are still fun to talk about.
Seriously just look at this >>728913832 >>728913563
People of Lumiere are like 95% black and get killed off. Who the fuck gives a shit enough to bring them back? Nobody. The game is shallow. There's almost nothing to discuss.
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>>728914818
the fact you're resorting to FF7 as an example of a FF game that's better is a testament to the greatness of E33, kek. i agree FF7 is better but FF9 is better than both
anyway i look forward to your continued asshurt when you see E33 is remembered for decades
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>>728914938
>The game is shallow. There's almost nothing to discuss.
the opinion of people who have never played it. just slaves to internet drama who will forget about this whole thing and move onto the next retarded controversy in a month or less.

You stupid fuck. I'd grow a tree from your corpse;
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it's RPG made in france trying to be a JRPG
it's j' RPG
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Chained echoes and E33 are two peas in a pod
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>>728914818
>>728914849
>SE dies a dog's death
>some no name frenchies outdo them two years after their entire IP pool flopped
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>nobody mentioned the weird ass video of some unc in a reddit funko pop manchild cave walking on a treadmill posted in OP
is this some kind of bizarre marketing thread
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>>728915273
E33 seethe or bait threads are so routine at this point the op is just a vector to let us shitpost
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>>728915012
>E33 remembered past Jan 2026
delusion
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>>728915038
>the opinion
It's facts not feelings, libshit. You can't even come up with a counter argument. Pathetic.

>just slaves to internet drama who will forget about this whole thing and move onto the next retarded controversy in a month or less.
I'm talking about the game being mediocre. I'm not even talking about the controversy of it winning an undeserved amount of awards at TGA. Or do you not know what the word controversy means? Seriously get a refund on you college degree. It's worth nothing.

>>728915338
They have a movie in the works. We'll have to remember this shit whether we want to or not. Just more fuel for me to shit on these midwits.
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>>728915408
>libshit
I've participated in racially motivated violence, while you called people chuds and trannies on twitter. Shut your mouth when you're talking to me, fool
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>>728875721
Not really.
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>>728915338
kek. see you in 2030 for those "best of the 2020's" lists.
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>>728915463
elden ring at no.1
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>>728915516
Probably, but 33'll surely rank higher than any of the standard JRPGs so far this decade.
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>>728915603
kek even with the sandfall paycheck this marketer's e33 jingoism is cuckolded by FromAgarthaSoft
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>>728910618
What’s your rebuttal dunce?
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Why did this game get pushed so hard? Like yeah it's good but it's not THAT good. So what's the real reason?
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>>728915742
It makes weebs seethe uncontrollably
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>>728915773
why would it make weebs seethe? it's essentially a weeb coded game inspired 100% by japanese games
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>>728915038
I played it. I actually like the picto system and the music is great, but everyone knows the game shoots itself in the foot at the end. the writers wanted a big moral dilemma, but it feels pointless after act 2 since everyone is just copies anyways.
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>>728915842
Mainly because a western developer took "their" formula, removed all the cringy shit and made it better in the process.
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Still no good screenshots of the game. Somehow Stellar Blade the gooner game has fans with better artistic talent

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>>728915450
>I've participated in racially motivated violence
I believe you. Cutting off your own dick because you hate being white counts as racially motivated violence.

>Shut your mouth when you're talking to me, fool
My mouth is shut. I'm talking to you via text.
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>>728916006
I'd say they made it even cringier by trying to take itself too seriously with all the melodrama.
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>>728916032
>Stellar Blade the gooner game
LMAO of course you're one of these trannies. neck yourself. i'm not reading another word you type, YWNBAW
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>>728916032
you need my cock. it couldn't be more obvious
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>>728875721
The French aren't the best at anything other than nigger worship
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>>728916158
>posts a random screenshot from the game
>it looks better than the jeet33 screenshots in this thread

>>728916171
Feel free to correct me then. Tell us about the racially motivated violence you participated in. Or maybe you made a Freudian slip and said participated instead of committed. Being a victim counts as participating in the violence. What happened, did a white man stop you from trying to rape a 14 year old white girl?
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>>728915678
I don't even like Elden Ring that much, but it's the most impactful game of the decade so far I think. It'll get overshadowed by GTA6 unless GTA6 is the most horrible delayed dogshit the world has ever seen.
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>>728916363
I'm white, I formed and led a race gang to deal with the black kids who were harassing my little brother.

On topic, E33 is a great game and it deserved every award it got and more, except the Indie Game award, I don't think it really qualified for that one
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>>728896525
>DeSu
Overclocked version is better
>Radiant Historia
Lol. Lmao even.
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>>728916590
wtf are you talking about
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>>728915223
SE will outlive your bloodline. excerment 33 won't get a new game for the next 10 years.
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>>728875721
Can you guys stop trolling for a sec and tell me if it's as good as FF6 and Chrono Trigger?
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>>728875928
>persona, persona, and persona clone
this is why jrpgs are fucking dead
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>>728919183
In terms of story only the first part is genuinely good. After the plot twist it really does just become an inverse FFT Advance where they depict the Marche expy as the one in the wrong.
>Escapism good but only because it's a woman doing it in short
I genuinely wanted it to remain focused on the whole concept of time and valuing the limited time you have on this Earth which is far more unique since it would be focusing on the concept on a much more personal level.
So no, it isn't. It starts really good but then drops the ball hard.
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>>728918514
Enjoy FF14's decline taking the company with it. Maybe they shouldn't have made it bad if they wanted it to continue funding the rest of the company.
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I just started the game, finished act 1. Game good, but my biggest gripe is that every character feels like they're written the exact same way. Sure there's small differences, Lune is more strict, Sciel more playful, but on a moment to moment basis that all just kinda behave the same way, and I haven't really gotten any chances to actually learn about their personal interests and histories. I just did a social link with the big flying guy so I assume there's some for the rest of the party, but so far nobody has really made any impact; the character moments are lacking.
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>>728891754
It does. Retards are trying to rewrite the meaning of words again.
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>>728891754
"JRPG" was a term invented by fallout and elder scrolls fags for the sake of othering games that deem to be cringe anime crap. In Japan they don't denote RPG subgenres by place of origin, because that's retarded. Instead games like final fantasy or dragon quest are called LRPGs or "light RPGs" as they eschew the heavier roleplaying elements of CRPGs. That's it.
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>>728920406
It's funny if you think about it. Japan puts games into various categories all the time but they do it for easy archiving or recommendation purposes not for othering rival games because they know someone that wants a Mystery Dungeon RPG isn't asking for a Tactics RPG and someone that wants a FP Dungeon Crawler RPG doesn't want a traditional RPG. Meanwhile you ask for recs for a WRPG and you'll get everything from a third person action game with rpg elements to a first person shooter with rpg elements and sometimes you'll get a proper RPG recommended to you.
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>>728920319
Yeah, that’s a big issue early on. The writing plays it super safe by keeping everyone in that “snarky but charming ally” lane so they don’t risk alienating the player. It’s like they all read from the same sass script. Once you get deeper into their link quests it opens up a bit-some characters actually start diverging in tone, but only if you actively dig into their arcs. Sciel actually has a decent payoff if you stick with her, but yeah, you’re not wrong. They all start off feeling like Echo #1 through #6.
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DLC bosses are too hard
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E33 is a real JRPG in the same way that trans women are real women.
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>>728875815
>FF is being downplayed to "turn based and world map"
Sad.
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>>728877164
If the game isn't/wasn't popular then it's not disscussed on /v/.
Therefore (You) don't belong here. GTFO
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>>728875721
Jesus Christ, how much did his dad pay to have his game chilled this hard?

>Daaad!
>Yes, what is it my son?
>I want to make a game and I want it to win GOTY!
>No problem. Just say when.
>NOW! NOW! NOW!
>Alright, I'll start bribing the industry right this minute.
>Tee-hee, YAY!
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>>728876558
You think Chrono Cross, Hades 2 and Metawhore are better then Xenogears, Chrono Trigger and Suikoden 2?
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>>728877164
>lots of people liking the game is not an indication of it being popular
???
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>>728925379
I am sorry ubisoftbrown. I am sure Yasuke's game would have won GOTY if it was released the next year
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>>728875721
pop quiz; what does J mean in JRPG? plus you're not a real gamer.
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I'm playing through the wiis library of ancient jrpgs and each is more fun than e33.



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