Are they right?https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/the-erasure-of-gaming-history.155226/
>>728884459I don't know, I ain't reading that.
>>728884459I don't even need to click on that link, but if a disastrous and stagnant shithole like codex thinks it's true then probably no
>>728884459>Into the foreseeable future, gaming historians and brave adventurers are going to look back on gaming to see what all the buzz was about. They’re going to discover some of the most commonly listed “masterpieces”:>1990s: Chrono Trigger, GoldenEye, Diablo>2000s: BioShock, Silent Hill 2, Half-Life 2 (and many more)>2010s: Skyrim, GTA V, God of War (and many more)>These games dominate popular consensus. In one or two cases, they are hard to even consider games at all, featuring so little player interfacing with the experience. Each and every one is shallow trash, with far, FAR superior alternatives of very similar nature. I’m talking about the exact same game in many cases—just 10× more respectable, engrossing, intelligent, and fruitful.
Not really imo, most of the games he's bitching about at least serve as good gateways to more underground stuff. Like it's a lot easier to recc Chrono Trigger and then stuff like Treasure of the Rudras if they like it rather than throwing a shitfit that more people talk about more normie-friendly games.
>rpgcodexAh, yes, the obsidiandrone den
>Into the foreseeable future, gaming historians and brave adventurers are going to look back on gaming to see what all the buzz was about. They’re going to discover some of the most commonly listed “masterpieces”:>1990s: Chrono Trigger, GoldenEye, Diablo>2000s: BioShock, Silent Hill 2, Half-Life 2 (and many more)>2010s: Skyrim, GTA V, God of War (and many more)>Each and every one is shallow trash, with far, FAR superior alternatives of very similar nature. I’m talking about the exact same game in many cases—just 10× more respectable, engrossing, intelligent, and fruitful.Alrighty then, let's see those alternatives. I'm especially interested in HL2 alternative.
>>728884459>rpgcodexWhatever that thread is about, in favor of or against, its points and opinions, it's worthless.
What will be their 2025 gotyheres their 2024 list lol
>I am sick to death of the casual-gamer, lowest-common-denominator, sub-100 IQ retard wiping out gaming history with their mediocre, uninformed input. The internet was a mistake.I'm not finishing reading past this. He speaks like a /v/ user.
>>728885145their metric is always weird in the effort to combat popular games winning everything
>>728885145Looks like a solid list to me though?
>>728885275heres a better one :D
>>728885459fk, meant to post this one
>>728884459Overall he's right about the societal trends, but those keeping the past generally always stand out from the others. Most regular folk don't know much about the history of film beyond whatever rhey watched in their childhood or literature beyond what has been taught to them in schools. The main difference is that anyone upholding game history just looks like a nerd instead of a buff, so it has no legitimacy.Pair that with the difficulty of preserving games being exponentially harder than either medium as it gets obsoletized ona technical level and it's naturally an arduous task.
>>728884943Not in many years, basically since Avellone started shit talking them. The jew appointed an Obsidrone as a mod just to farm engagement with users bashing everything he posts and paying subscription to avoid getting banned for it.
>>728885028Dudes that shit on games AND claim there's better ones without showing examples are the biggest faggots on earth and get a quick queue to the guillotine
I thank God for making me a RPG fan but not enough of a bitter asshole faggot to use codex/HQ
>>728884459This guy is a guaranteed /v/irgin.
>>728885931>finally wins the Pokemon Championship and retires>becomes an insufferable fag in online forumsDamn.
>>728884459jesus I forgot how utterly insufferable traditional e-peen web forums are. Thank christ we still have 4chan
>>728885145I was gonna say this list is garbage but Drova is unironically great
>>728884459
Basedhttps://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/kill-all-remakes-and-their-supporters.154550/
>>728884459>this melodramatic faggotry is now spilling over to /v/A) The Codex is its own website, please go thereB) >>728884875 already gave a pretty solid answer as to why this is a nonissueGo back to bitching about WOTC, this board is shitty enough as is
>>728884459>Popular thing bad>Niche thing good>Doesn't name any alternatives to the games he listedcool fucking non-argument
The Codex is probably one of the few places more miserable than /v/
>>728888778One of the places more based than /v/Not surprising because Codex is like 99% white and /v/ is filled with jeets, spics and jungle asians
>>728888778Codex is basically /v/ for Gen X and the occasional boomer.
>>728885602I really love how hard they had to weigh the voting system and yet 3 popular games made it to the top 10 that year.
>>728888778Their userbase is older and remembers better times than majority of /v/.
>>728884459>I am sick to death of the casual-gamer, lowest-common-denominator, sub-100 IQ retard wiping out gaming history with their mediocre, uninformed input. The internet was a mistake.This is absolutely correct and is also why we shouldn't allow the unwashed masses to vote.
>>728884459lolcow-tier personality
Didn't silent hill 2 and hl2 appear in their top non rpg list?
>>728884832Oh just terminally online losers with long overdue reality check having an autistic meltdown about>My taste is superior and yours is trash see how much im gonna moan n bitch about literally no one or anything meeting my unrealistic high standardsThx for the qrd anon.
>>728884459>spend decades insisting that good things are not actually good>go back and check whether anyone listened to you screeching>nobody gave a shit and the normal opinion was recorded anyway>get bootyblasted over facts a second time
>>728889174>>728889213Maybe a decade ago, these days the Codex users are mostly Millennials with one or two Gen X and Z people hanging around.
>>728890351what does gen x even do online they seemingly have absolutely zero presence. are they really all just on facebook, or just hardly interact with the internet in a meaningful way? even 15+ years ago 4chan didn't have any sizeable amount of xoooomers. what the fuck do they do all day? what a strange generation. i guess i might be considered strange to zoomers as a millennial who only uses the internet for torrenting anime, 4chan, and youtube and absolutely nothing else.
>rpgcodexkek
>>728885145>SMTVV out of nowhereI don't get it.
>>728884459I'm not reading all of that.
>>728884459I agree in some things, but he thinks that people in the future will be smart and able to recognize good games. Like, lol, the fact that mainstream and popular modern videogames are getting worse every year is just proof that we're not evolving in that department. People will eventually just care about technological achievements. Better graphics, more "immersion" and nothing else. It's always a shallow experience. The true appeal of GTA is that it's a very small simulation of the real world. That's what most people want. That's why there are so many AAA games nowadays that are 3D action open world games. Because that's what normalfags demand, and will demand even more in the future. People won't care about any games from the past because they won't offer the "high" standards they have. Maybe they would like to investigate older video games, but at that point why would they like to know about the complex and better games he's talking about? lol, they'll think everything is trash. They'll probably think that GTA V is one of the best old games, and still will categorize it as a dated experience. Just look at Ultima 7, one of the most influential games of all time and vidya critics usually say it's dated so it doesn't matters too much. They will just concentrate on the highlights from the past, even if we think they're overrated. Oh and they'll eventually forget about everything. Just look at how gaming websites do those best games of all time lists, and at least 80% is mainstream shit from the last 20 years >People of the future are going to assume gaming of the past was all worthless trashWe already think that>slopInto the trash it goes>>728885931>2015Huuuh you can say that and they won't ban you?
How are sh2, hl2, goldeneye, chrono trigger, gta, diablo bioshock, skyrim, God of war fags coping now that real gamers hate them and will never be real classics?
>>728891475The industry is getting worse for the same reason IT got worse over time; somebody made a community college-tier school specifically for teaching people how to develop video games, and modern devs are being shat out by these places without any ingenuity, individualism, or creativity.
codex is never right about anything.
Decline enablers itt
>a thread about some literal who's opinion on RPG codexGreat. Can we get a thread about some literal who on Something Awful too?
>>728892247Anon, please respect your ancestors
>>728884459Codex is always retarded whatever they're on about.
>>728892247They have exquisite taste in games
>>728884459>>728885931That guy is an autist (modder) with NPD, literally lives off his own farts.
>>728890749It's mostly watching other peoples' content and getting mad over it. All of their creative output they don't use for work seems to be concentrated into vaguely threatening rants about how everyone but them is a pussy and they're gonna take over society somehow. Usually this takes the form of a video of them staring into the camera with maybe a dumbass filter... but most of them just rant in comments under the things that outraged them. Back in the day when just posting at nobody in particular on Facebook worked they did a lot of that, too.
>>728890351Millennials are old cunts now and codex has almost no zoomers, you could count the few who post there on your fingers. It's still a generation older than /v/.>>728890749Gen X are easy to spot online. They're a generation that desperately wanted to be the cool kid from old movies and sitcoms, and never grew out of it. They're pathological liars making up the wildest shit about their youth, it's like reading about Forrest Gump accidentally meeting all those famous and influential people. If they haven't shaken hands with Steve Jobs or done drugs with Kurt Cobain, they always have another story about crossing a mafia boss and barely getting away with their lives or X-Files tier stories about uncovering grand government conspiracies and the men in black trying to silence them. Majority of people who claim they were abducted by aliens or implanted with secret glownigger nanotech were gen X.The majority of their online presence is getting hard to find these days, but they used to run a million little fan sites and blogs about edgy media from the 80s and 90s. All the Matrix BDSM cosplays, any tabletop fandom, anything gushing over original Star Wars, Terminator, Alien, etc - that's all gen X. They were also the main producers of end of the world content like Y2K, 2012, Age of Aquarius and other such bullshit. Their middle age crisis produced countless online meltdowns about their long gone youth, sort of what you see with millennials now.
Codex will outlive 4chan
>>728890351In the past year it's been filled with shartykids who spend more time being obsessed over the political climate than fucking video games.
>>728892908I think you're batshit insane. The people you're complaining about don't exist. I don't believe it.
>>728892908>Millennials are old cunts noware we? do we control the parts of the government that matter and make actual decisions that impact people yet? no? well we're clearly not THAT old yet then are we. you're describing gen x, and the few boomers who won't relinquish power or wealth until they're in the grave.
>>728884459that place is somehow worse than /v/ and that's saying something
>>728884459Going to save people a read and tell you that turns into a mudfight at around page 3.Don't have time to visit all the troglodyte dens, but I do like to read RPG codex for the same reason I read 4chan posts. This is one of the few places I can find people who remembers or people who are autistic enough to reach back in time and explore old content. Vidya takes much, much longer to consume than movies, so the people that do this tend to be a bit out there.This particular guy is a bit too far gone. As someone who remembers, the "REAL" top vidya lists overlap around 50-40 percent with normie ones. At the same time it's important to point out that most online magazines doesnt really post top games lists, rather they just do a "what are our stuff likes lists". Further lists tend to differ in whether they weigh historical impact or a timeless objective "goodness".The rule of thumb though is simply whether the list (or whatever/whoever) is listing old games. If there are no games on the list from before 2000 I would assume that there is a normie bias, along with weaboo/westaboo bias.The erasure of history is fucking real though. The internet is a just a grey mush where popularity and recurrence becomes truth. It's scary and why zoomers needs to be bullied.
Admit it they btfo hl2 in that thread
If you like any of the games mentioned in the Codex post, you are part of the problem
>>728890749>i guess i might be considered strange to zoomers as a millennial who only uses the internet for torrenting anime, 4chan, and youtube.I thought that's what everybody used the internet for. Well, that and some altchans from time to time.Though I'm more of a manga guy than an anime guy.
>>728885145>>728885602I take it back, these guys are based
>>728893404They're past 45, many pushing 60 this year. Old, tired, burnt out, some of them begun to be embarrassed about their online past and just quietly slipped into passive consumption mode.Do you know Tessera, of VTM Bloodlines true patch fame? Recently he either died or pulled another crazy publicity stunt by faking his death. He's an extreme example of his generation, tessmage could be textbook material.>>728893414Yeah, we're definitely aging. 30s to mid-40s isn't young, it's long past formative years. Getting scammed out of a life (gen whY even exist) and tossed aside like a defective batch doesn't magically halt aging.
>>728889830Damn. Maybe you should read slower. You ended up just regurgitating some head cannon
>>728894661I've dealt with Gen X'ers. A lot of them are prone to tall tales, but I think you're pushing the envelope, pal. Bucko. Buddy.
>>728884459Nobody cares about what these autistic dorks think.
Goldeneye lost, Half Life 2 lost, Diablo lost, Bioshock lost, Chrono Trigger lost
>>728894661>30s to mid-40s isn't youngwe don't control any policies, the only millennial politicians i can even name are the nyc mayor and AOC. we're mostly all pretty broke, hopeless, and isolated like zoomers. unless you got lucky as an elder millennial and brought a house before it all went to shit. none of the boomer wealth is going to us either so the outlook is bleak for anyone younger than elder millennial tier.
>>728895213JD Vance is a millennial.
>>728895213bought*
>>728895489he's also a giant weird dork nobody likes, to the point where i genuinely forgot he exists.
RPG Codex is the proof that Eltingville Club exists, and the retards in that forum as that comic, are the biggest normalfags ever calling others "normalfag" and asking for gatekeeping to keep their circlejerk and control.And these are the same people who would troon out of rage to prove that xhey are better than women, only to fail at it and push ugly ogres into everything.
>>728895213We're all that on top of getting old. We just had some 15 years longer than zoomers to turn bitter about it. Zoomies won't be that different a decade from now, they just need to simmer in misery a bit longer.
RPG Codex in a nutshell.
>>728884459Post a fucking screencap or summarize what was said, I'm not giving you web traffic.
>>728895537Wew! You launched that goalpost all the way into the next dimension.
>>728895638Hiro should take lessons from Infinijew. Hire clown mods and have them to act as strawmen for anons, just like Crispy and Roguey.
>>728896273he is. if he runs as the candidate when trump ACKs you're handing an easy win to other side. dude is a charisma black hole.
>>728896384Bro the goalpost is over in the HFIL now.
>>728884943lmao you find more trannies glazing nv here
>>728896384You have spent far, far, FAR too much time on Reddit.
>>728896446i don't see how that's relevant to vance being a bad, unlikable candidate by every measure that trump just picked because he's a spineless yes man.>he's a millennial doebeithe's also irrelevant.
>>728885145But SKALD sucked.
>>728896650>"reeeeeeeee there aren't any millennials in power!"t.you (faggot)>"jd vance (the vice president of the united states) is a millennial"t.me (chad)>"REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE THAT DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESONS!!!!!!!!!!"t.you (still a faggot)
>>728897124>I AM SILLY
>>728884459tl;dr?
HALF LIFE 2 FAGS BTFOhttps://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/the-erasure-of-gaming-history.155226/post-9682601https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/the-erasure-of-gaming-history.155226/post-9683118https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/the-erasure-of-gaming-history.155226/post-9683209https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/the-erasure-of-gaming-history.155226/post-9683216https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/the-erasure-of-gaming-history.155226/post-9683508
>>728897186But that's exactly what you did.You reeeee'd and moved the goalposts because reality didn't match up with your twatty pity party.
>>728885215the most popular game seems to have won there
>>728885215>their metric is always weird in the effort to combat popular games winning everythingIt's actually the opposite. Bayesian rating is biased towards more popular games; games with low amounts of total votes have their score reduced. You can see that Felvidek got a raw average of 4.06 but less to Drova which only has a raw average of 4.01. This is because Drova has more than double the votes and a Bayesian rating system favours games that have more people voting on it, whether that be popular or negative.
They are literally right. None of the most lauded classical artists we know of today were popular during their time. I would bet money that in a few hundred years absolutely no AAA releases will be in the list of most important games of the 21st century.
>>728893404nta but I get what's he's alluding to. Gen Xers act differently to millennials online they're more pompous and boastful and struggle to understand the internet is anonymous and nobody gives a fuck
>>728897540How did Michelangelo get to paint the Sistine Chapel if he wasn't popular?
>>728897540Many games might not survive it. Studios are notorious for throwing away their source codes and it's only getting hard to run many old games. Console libraries might be saved by emulation but many niche PC exclusives are just fucked if there's nobody able or interested enough to reverse engineer them.
I LOVE POP GARBAGE
>>728897540>list of most important games of the 21st century.This isn't really true because game "journalists" are hack jews that don't actually play or care about games.
>>728884715The most retarded Codex member is leagues smarter and more knowledgeable on their hobby than the average /v/ user.
Reminder two games mentioned in the OP are in their Top 100 Non RPG list.They are hypocrite and retarded.
>>728884459waaah why do people like fun pick up and play games with colorful graphics and exciting gameplay instead of Gothmorgue, the slow, drab permadeath 90s blobber only 5 people ever beat where each finger on your hand has its own HP and strength stats and all the dungeons are the size of Texas with fake walls and invisible teleporters???????
>>728892974That's been a problem since 2016. It's gotten so bad that at one point, the staff wanted to ban political discussion and open a second site specifically for it.
They are the real gaming academics and critics.
>>728898402Cry more, they are respected unlike here
>>728898090see >>728895569
>>728885148You’re a tourist
>>728898402Everything is a shit hole
No one could defend the games mentioned by OP
>>728891989honestly its time to stop calling Unreal kitbashers 'developers'
>>728898728my actual shit hole is less filled with shit than rpgcodex
>>728895569>EltingvilleI posted that comic on /tg/ once and they got MAD.
You will never have good taste if you don't follow the Codex
>>728884459In my experience I have found that when people get called out for having shit taste they won’t try to defend themselves but just get mad and cry that you’re being mean. They know that they are consumers that treat various mediums as nothing more than a quick way to get hit of dopamine. They don’t want to actually engage with anything beyond that. They say that it makes them happy but what they’re experiencing is happiness in the same way a drug addict is happy when gets a hit of heroin. A feeling a temporary pleasure and euphoria followed by a comedown and diminishing returns which creates the need to demand more and more. They do this with everything. Why have actual websites and apps where you can engage in extensive discourse on a variety of topics when you can just doomscroll for 7 hours?
>>728895569>virus from within>turn my shitty fan fic canon>fanshitsThe ironic part about this is that it’s how culture warriors took over multiple industries.
>>728884459Yes. Just look at all the late 2000s casual slop grifters praise as "peak" (Metal Gear Rising for example) as though that wasn't already the beginning of the end. We're a far cry from the unbridled creativity of PC gaming in the 90s.>>728884832He's right. Chrono Trigger is a fun experience but the gameplay is simple and there are so many better games from that period.
>>728899495>and there are so many better games from that period.go on
80's games ok90's games peak00s, 10s, 20s garbageSimple as
kneel
>>728899198>They know that they are consumers that treat various mediums as nothing more than a quick way to get hit of dopamineWhy is this a negative thing when talking about videogames? They're GAMES, they are specifically created to be fun.
Zero counterarguments for HL2, Silent Hill 2, Goldeneye, Skyrim, God of War, Diablo, Bioshock, GTA, Chrono Trigger>>728897293Yep Codex won
>>728899151Its literally modern 40k and DnD in a nutshell as all of their shills.>>728899395The same people who calls you chud is josh from eltingville, and later on in his miserable life, cut his dick later to become juliette out of rage because he wants to prove that his a better woman than a real woman, and will will shove every aberration into your hobby out of spite sop only xheis vision is the true vision.>>728900439Hi ALF aka DW terminator
>>728899735I think gamebooks are a good example of a genre that got overshadowed by the easy accessibility of console games. You could get a hardcore dungeon crawling RPG all in a single paperback book. Fabled lands and Grailquest were peak. I also really like point and clicks like Harvester.
>>728899198I think it's only bad when it comes to gacha and other predatory games that vacuum people's money, otherwise people generally shouldn't be confronted over what they play unless it's in a friendly way.
Why can't you admit CRPG fags know more about gaming than you?
>>728900324This is like wasting food because it tastes bad when starving kids are in Africa.
>>728901068I dunno, have they played as many arcade games as me?
HL2 lost
>>728890749Gen X is easy to spot. They’re the retards who act with indignation if anyone says anything positive about the Star Wars prequels.
>>728900324>Why is this a negative thing when talking about videogamesYou’re reducing an entire medium that has the potential to show near infinite amounts of creativity and ideas be the same generic thing over and over with minor deviations in order to give the illusion of innovation. >they are specifically created to be funWhat is fun? I’m not saying it does not exist but I want you to describe wha you believe fun is, not something you think is fun but the concept of what you think is fun.
>>728900850People should always be confronted about it since they should always be thinking about the sorts of material and works they engage and enjoy. They should ask themselves why they enjoy it and why they like it. It’s what allows them to better understand what they actually want and how they can find it. The same goes for pretty much everything in life yet for some reason when it comes down to media it’s some kind of huge no no.
All the games mentioned in the OP are shit
>>728903482>>728903318This is what Codex does tho
>>728900324Creatures like that don't want fun, they just want everyone else to be as miserable as they are.
>>728900520>gamebooksthis is a board for VIDEO games. nobody cares about tabletop crap, big dog.
>>728886560Drova was amazingBut Skald was even better (trash gameplay but the art, atmosphere, story etc were phenomenal)I agree with them in 1st and 2nd positionSo yeah I will trust them on the rest
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>>728903536Does what specifically? I said a few things in those two posts?
>>728884459He didn't really present any proper arguments so the whole post comes off as pointless bickering. Only thing I agree with is remaster and remakes being garbage but at the end of the day video games are a money making business and outside very few exceptions, definitely not art.
>>728903548I do want to have fun, I want to have games where I am able to go around and experience an organic world with characters that behave in a believable and organic way but at the same time aren’t hung up on being “realistic” I want to interact with and join, fight, betray, and so much more with a number of different factions and groups. I want to adventure have the chance to be some grand hero or complete nobody. I have hope that these things are possible and that everything can improve but in order for that to happen you have to call out what is actually wrong and to do that you need to examine various elements of the medium and see what the actual issue is. So tell me what do you think is fun? How do I know you’re not just ironically detached from everything and use games to cope with not being satisfied with your own life and want everything to turn into a short term dopamine boost as part of a loop of highs and lows that doesn’t give any actual fulfillment?
This site has its own rpg board, why don't you listen to them instead of what other sites think?
>>728904216He's a schizo who's been doing this for years.
>>728884459>CRPGfags>being obnoxious pseudsI frankly don't care if he's right or not. His existence is so repulsive that I'm inclined to disagree with him. No, I did not read past the part where he mentioned IQ.
>>728884832Chrono Trigger is stupidly well paced and it's something that has been long lost in modern generations, it's not the ultimate standout in ever aspect but it's extremely tight on all aspects, I wouldn't call it a game future historians would place a lot lower, not even remotelyGoldeneye is such a game, and while it's approach to shooters was stand out and even influential influencing thief's difficulty level it is nowadays correctly considered not at all ultimate, what's strange is that Goldeneye is listed and not say Quake which does deserve it's place because of it's influence even for negative trends like e-sports.Diablo is well packaged but it's loot centric design is cancer, and it's influence on gaming as a whole is cancer.Talking about absolute cancer God of War is that, it takes so many shitty trends and melds them together>cinematic over the shoulder experience>action game with move assist>level ups>random dropsThat game will thankfully be ripped straight off lists like this.
>>728894720Thats literally all they do, but they love to spew a whole bible of words about it, its just /v/ but somehow less fun.
>rpgcodex hyperlink thread
>>728904965>GoWHonestly irrelevant now. Cinematic storytelling will get attributed to MGS or Uncharted for the modern conception, and the Arkham style took over western action design. Anything that could still be attributed to the original GoW is dead and gone.
>>728904149How is your idea of fun any more or less valid than the average normie?
>>728884459Codex is always right, but autistic retards like Ash or Lyric Suite should rope.
>>728885028>I'm especially interested in HL2 alternative.It has no combat but INFRA is a fantastic first person source engine adventure game that gave me the same sense of immersion and wonder that hl2 did on a first playthrough
>>728906123Because the average normie can’t even explain what their idea of fun is. They just say “it’s fun” and then if you ask them to elaborate further they get indignant. Also are you that anon? If so the please answer the question I asked at the end of the post.
>>728884459>superior alternative to Chrono Triggerlike what
>>728899495>He's right. Chrono Trigger is a fun experience but the gameplay is simple and there are so many better games from that period.if you go actually read the full post, he was bashing chrono trigger as one of the slop games in question
>>728904149>I want to have games where I am able to go around and experience an organic world with characters that behave in a believable and organic way but at the same time aren’t hung up on being “realistic” I want to interact with and join, fight, betray, and so much more with a number of different factions and groupsYou want an autism reality simulator. Most people just want a decent flick with button prompts. Neither of these are inherently better than the other, and the fact I just effortlessly reduced both into 4chan buzzwords reinforces that.
>>728884943Codex hasn't had a generally positive view of Obsidian for almost a literal decade now.
>>728907320>You want an autism reality simulatorNo want immersion, interactivity and reactivity. I even said I don’t want realism since trying to make a fantasy world be like reality is just retarded I want it to be believable and organic for the setting in which it takes place. In a world where magic is everywhere someone is not going to think that using a wand to light a fire is odd. >Neither of these are inherently better than the otherHow? How are they on par? One allows a person to actually engage in what they’re doing and the other is something that is based on repetitive action that will eventually become and unconscious response without any real thought put into it whatsoever. > and the fact I just effortlessly reduced both into 4chan buzzwords reinforces thatExcept you didn’t. You misconstrued what I said and tried reducing your own misconstrued version showing that you don’t actually care about what you’re doing and treat it as something you do for a short term dopamine hit.
Ash won
All of these obscure supre ebin and cool places suck ass and suck their own farts. Their needs to be a mixture of plebianism, elitism and assholery, sincerity and shit like rpgcodex and the r/redscarepod is just too up it's own ass.
>>728907043Yeah and I agree. It's a fun game but it's not the best by any means.
>guy makes an impassioned rant about the decline of gaming and the infestation of the hobby by the lowest common denominator of shit eating retards>first several replies are just "lmao you mad you angry get dunked on nerd"Huh, so it's like this everywhere.
>>728884459Is he fucking stupid? This is already what normalfags think. This has been going on for almost two decades.
>>728908937Any retard can make a generic rant about the decline of a media, fags have been doing that since anything new was developed at all. All he would need is a pre-approved list of "classics" so he can pretend to be an intellectual and never make any risks when it comes to his own tastes in anything.
>>728909096But is he wrong? Are they not overrated? Is media not declining? I'd be curious to know what he considers superior to those lauded classics.
>>728884459i love CRPGs and i see nothing wrong with Chrono Trigger, typical sub 100 IQ subhuman wouldn't even be able to play 5 minutes of that game.
>>728909157You can call anything overrated.
>>728909264You can call anything a triangle. That has nothing to do with it being a triangle or not.
>>728908615>All of these obscure supre ebin and cool places suck ass and suck their own farts.But enough about /v/
why is everyone in that entire thread, OP included, such a hostile condescending fucking cunt holy shitthere's one poster in that entire thread named Lyric Suite that isn't being a total nigger and desperately trying to humiliate or clown on everyone else
>>7289093204chan is idiotic enough to have a bit of soul sometimes, the constant gacha shills lower the cool of the place>>728909313I guess so, but IDK what the issue with goldeneye and chrono trigger is. Goldeneye isn't even an RPG
>>728909389I spoke too soon actually. He lists games he considers superior to those but refuses to elaborate beyond calling them slop.I can get the ire with stuff being overrated, the way many people talk about things you'd think like only a dozen games exist out there, but goddamn that thread is diseased
>>728892247It's slightly better than a twitter thread. I think.
>>728909389>4chan is idiotic enough to have a bit of soul sometimesMaybe 10 years ago>blaming only gacha trash and not 99% of other trash like twitter screencap threads, e-celeb shit, /pol/shit, porndump threads and blatant off-topicyeah right, at least try to be honest
>>728909578I'm getting really tired of this disingenuous shit where someone offended by shitting on gacha implies that the person shitting on it is somehow defending or making exceptions for the other problems this board has.
my favorite RPG is Monster Hunter Stories 2 :DI also really liked sunless sea. thanks for reading my post.
>>728908615honestly /v/ used to be more like that pre-2016.
>>728884459>advertisement for another site>up for 7 hoursbefore the hack mods deleted codex threads, jesus man. this place gets exponentially worse every single day.
>>728909658And I'm getting tired of retards like you who claim /v/ is good and only bad because of ONE specific issue, not 100 of themAgain, be honest next time and don't pretend like /v/ is any better than shit like RPGCodex or GameFAQs or some other place to discuss videogames - they all suck, period. Or just say "I'M A LAZY RETARDED FAGGOT" next time to let people know your opinion is like 1/10 of what it actually is.
>>728884459>theyIt's one guy. But still, I agree with the sentiment at least.
>>728909989>who claim /v/ is good and only bad because of ONE specific issue, not 100 of themExactly what I'm talking about. Go away, microtransaction supporting scum.
>>728909989All the awful shit on /v/ is due to get raided by places like Codex. They openly talk about crossposting here and raiding this place, and the catalogue is flooded with low quality RPG bait threads 24/7. /v/ isn't even allowed to be itself any more, because mods not only won't do their jobs, but actively make the board worse.
>>728909483I don't really get the hate for the classics, at worse they are just not for me if I don't like them. I think that out of all of the nu-classics, frieren is easily the worst. That shit is really carried by the fact that their characters don't scream like retards over everything like most weeb stuff from that era does but the story is boring as hell.
>>728906263INFRA is a based game but it's absolutely nothing at all like HL2 aside from being in the same game engine, also INFRA completely shits the bed in the last half of the game and turns very retarded around the point you wander into the weird hippy commune place. Sending some random unqualified nobody to go singlehandedly repair a nuclear power plant was jumping the shark. The first half of the game is really really good though
>>728884459>Are they right?>RPG CodexThey're even more cynic and jaded than fucking /v/
>low quality rpg baitIt's that faggot who used to avatarfag with those same anime images until he got banned repeatedly for it.
>>728910152/v/ isn't cynical or jaded at all, not swallowing down fresh feces doesn't mean anything is wrong with your perspective at all
>>728910173Gunna alert the dex? I remember when one of them got caught posting on /vrpg/, luj1 or something like that. And from there we found their reddit account because he was copypasting the same posts on multiple sites, and it was just THOUSANDS of posts robotically astroturfing the same shit over and over.Don't give me this shit, you fucking faggot. You people are absolute cancer. If you post on codex you deserve a bullet in your head.
>>728910054>omg my e-celeb and porn threads are LE GOODA typical modern /v/tard, I see>>728910075/v/ is full of its own schizos to shit up the board, you don't need extra retards to make it even more awful than it is. Tripfags existed since forever, they just don't bother with tripcodes these days. And it's not just /v/ - board like /vr/ is ruined by a single fucking Sega autist.
>>728885145>Bunch of gay pixelart indieshit>ONE actual RPG (Rogue Trader)>More indie pixelslop>Japanese ""RPG""Wow.
>>728910305>/v/ is full of its own schizos to shit up the boardLiterally half of /v/'s schizos right now are from dex. Maybe more.
WHY AREN'T THE ZOOMERS PLAYING ARCANUM
>>728885602Is Colony Ship actually any good? I played it when it was in EA and it seemed rather jank and uninspired.
>>728885145>SMTVV>Rogue TraderRPG Codex is a site for retards but this is good>>728888572>>728900039And yet the people there still consider Baldurs gate 2 to be the pinnacle of vidya for some reason. DX1 too
>>728910463>Is Colony Ship actually any good?Of course not
>>728910503The person who wrote that blog left codex and abandoned RPGs altogether to play shmups, saying the genre was a waste of time.
>>728910382Unless you document such stuff (which kinda makes you a schizo of your own) I wouldn't claim shit like that. There are some obvious ones who were posting for 10+ years (see Barry or Barneyfag) but I know a bunch of anons just love to imitate some schizos just for teh lulz (especially when it comes to some generals, and I'm not even talking about /vg/ here)
>/v/ users calling any other site a place for retards
>>728909867>advertisementKill yourself you cock sucking nigger faggot. Stupid no fun allowed low IQ subhuman nigger. Absolutely worthless human feces
>>728910670Fuck off codex piggy, you don't belong here
>their tastes are similar to minegod fucking dammit
>>728910612Codex to this day still bitches about Lilura and whether or not the troon was based or not. Lil is another retard who thinks Tactical strategy games are CRPGS but the troon gets funny reactions
>>728911075Time to leave this site and stay there instead, video games are not for you. You can go be miserable and culture war with your slav brethren.
>>728911075You will unironically get better RPG discussion on Codex than you ever will in this shithole. This place is just for shills and ragebaiters.
>>728911119>>728911183/v/ has been my homeboard for more than 15 years now. I'll confess that I've posted on other forums as well, like Codex, but /v/ is my home. It's a diamond in the rough kind of situation, it's hard to explain.
>>728911183/vr/, /vg/, /vrpg/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Liquid aids injection >>>> Power Gap >>> Codex> /v/
>>728911108Everyone with personality leaves codex. Places like codex are for dumb people who fall in line and don't think about what they consume. When they write up a huge text wall its just mental gymnastics for updoots and attention repeating the same shit that's already been posted a billion times. Its a board that has no purpose. Everything is shit. Trannies ruined everything. Video games are dead, but they only play a very narrow group of narrative heavy CYOA games masquerading as rpgs. The quality of a video game is measured by its amount of dialogue choices and grimderpiness. If anything these people say seems agreeable to you, you need to reassess your life choices.
>>728911293this image is pure schizophrenia
>>728884459>sub-100 IQ retard wiping outThe tragedy is thinking you're smarter than the people you criticize.Also schizo rambling.
>>728884875Its you, the only other english speaker besides me who played Rudra. The music was so fucking great
>>728911293>versusholy kino
>>728911293CYOA games are RPGs in the purest form. IDK what to tell you.
>>728911375Dude is one of the oldest posters left on codex. That's the absolute peak of what they can muster. Look at the join by dates in the thread. If you look at the supposed "oldfags" on dex its all>2019>2024>2025>2018Board was made in like the early 2000s. Just goes to show that RPGs are for retarded zoomers. Only the most massive retard could stomach sticking with this slop in their 30s.
>>728909867>advertisment for an anime>up for 36 minutesThat's how retarded you sound.
>>728911626Can I make an imageboard with better moderation and make threads for it on /v/
>>728884459what a pretentious retard, i love it
>728911532>how to look as tranny as possible in a single post
>>728911272>/vg/ that highReplace with /vst/ and /vm/ and place /vg/ at the bottom along with /v/ and then I'll agree
>>728911703If /v/ had join by dates I wonder what yours would be. I'd bet you'd be an epic 2025 oldfag!
I am sick to death of the casual-gamer, lowest-common-denominator, sub-100 IQ retard wiping out gaming history with their mediocre, uninformed input. The internet was a mistake. Gaming history is being scrubbed from human record-keeping and documentation. Masterful works of the past are being replaced by slop-addled common opinion from vermin who don’t even know video games, or who play games “just for the story” and/or visual experience alone. This is incredibly reductionist and misguided.Video games are very complex experiences that take huge teams to produce over multiple years, consisting of gameplay, music, sound design, art, story, and more. Developers certainly contribute heavily to this lost history as well, with their endless sellout remakes and remasters that make the originals worse, while providing almost zero genuine homage or respect for works of the past—because it isn’t in their best interest to highlight superior art that makes their trash look like the worthless net negative to society it truly is.Into the foreseeable future, gaming historians and brave adventurers are going to look back on gaming to see what all the buzz was about. They’re going to discover some of the most commonly listed “masterpieces”:1990s: Chrono Trigger, GoldenEye, Diablo2000s: BioShock, Silent Hill 2, Half-Life 2 (and many more)2010s: Skyrim, GTA V, God of War (and many more)These games dominate popular consensus. In one or two cases, they are hard to even consider games at all, featuring so little player interfacing with the experience. Each and every one is shallow trash, with far, FAR superior alternatives of very similar nature. I’m talking about the exact same game in many cases—just 10× more respectable, engrossing, intelligent, and fruitful.People of the future are going to assume gaming of the past was all worthless trash. Many absolutely incredible works—an absolute privilege to have experienced—will be gone. Fuck these retarded parasites.
Reminder this nigga is unironically gay and has fucked (trannies) men in their shitty hairy assholes!
>>728884459If you need to link to a forum post instead of summarize in a sentence or two, you aren't worth my time.
>>728910659You don’t need to document that the archive already does that.
>>728911805That's kinda chadlike ngl
>>728911375>The tragedy is thinking you're smarter than the people you criticize.He probably is smarter than every single zoomer and normalfag.
>>728911239>came from /b/ and /o/ for duckroll only to find out what utter faggots and retards this place was infested with>still here
>>728912047The thing is you're not even forced to engage with the retards or there isn't some smelly mod that warns you that you did a naughty or getting banned for some insult.
>>728912047>>728911239>>728912152Ok so please go away, and keep the AI garbage to yourself nigger, i don't want to see it. bye bye
He righthttps://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/the-erasure-of-gaming-history.155226/post-9683583
>>728911750perfect
>>728912193If this were any other site, you'd have sicced a mod at me.
>>728912193>AI garbageThis place gets browner by the day.
>>728912262Codex loves AI slop, stay there and jerk off over morrowind or whatever
>>728912152>thread gets derailed by some unrelated shit>report to mods>they don't do shit>thread is now ruined with some IRL shit or two-three retards going after each other with pointless shittalkingWow, what a great place to discuss videogamesAfter the hack it became apparent on some boards what the lack of mods does to a quality of board (it goes to shit)
>>728912047
>>728912539nice comedy
>>728912212>>728911750Actually schizophrenic , no one gives a shit if you click on it or not
>>728884459>these games? >bad! >*lists no alternatives*I'm sick of low effort rage bait. Offer solutions or shut the fuck up.
>>728912887its not your fault that you dont get it
>>728913031He knows if he offers alternatives everyone will dunk on his own stupid opinions. Much easier to just complain
>>728912337Point to the "AI slop" you turd world retard.
>>728913141Just like /v/
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/kill-all-remakes-and-their-supporters.154550/They are right... codex is like a cooler /v/
>>728913031See>>728897293>>728912210
Opened the link expecting something on the horrendously bad recording keeping and crediting when it comes to games creation. How the people who were around when gaming first started are beginning to die off and we will have lost history and knowledge forever because nobody bothers to document anything. Before long, we will never know how these early games were created, what thoughts went into them, who was responsible for ideas or mechanics that went on to define the medium. Instead I get some retarded rant about how the OP's favourite games wont be remembered as the bestest ever because casuals like GTA more. Yawn.
The only inherently fun games are rhythm games anyway. Whatever that gay retard said is gay and retarded and I won't read it because reading is gay and retarded. Just like his gay retarded CRPGs.
>>728884459>>1990s: Chrono Trigger, GoldenEye, Diablo>>2000s: BioShock, Silent Hill 2, Half-Life 2 (and many more)>>2010s: Skyrim, GTA V, God of War (and many more)Out of the ones I played, they're good gamesthe 1990s ones in particular are solid and also broke new ground in some waywhat is he so mad about
who cares, ash is a /v/ rapefugee from the gamergate era whose only accomplishment in life was making a dogshit deus ex mod that ruins the game
>>728913587The funniest part for me was when he admitted he's mad about GTA 5 overshadowing San Andreas, as if SA was some hidden gem. Even after GTA 4 came out SA was still the most popular of them all.
>>728913393Ok... I mean ya half life 2 is shit. I'll give them that. Where is the based and correct replacement on the OP's list though?
>>728884459I can hear the fat through his text somehow. I feel so much impotent fat man rage in this post. I think he's just butthurt because he knows the type 2 diabetes will take his feet soon. Maybe we should just smile and nod, bros?
>>728910438Avellone sank in my eyes when he couldn't get past those starting wolves.
>>728884459that OP reminds me of Mort from the anime club for some reason
Real gamers agreed all those games suck.
>In addition, nowadays we have to pay attention to things like "If we don't do this, it will affect the Metacritic score" and "What is the ethical aspect of this?", but when we were making "Abyss," it was an era when we could have just pushed through those things by saying "What are you talking about? ">Nowadays, development costs more, and we live in an age where failure in game development is even more unacceptable. That's why we're very cautious about general opinions. However, at that time, people were a little more tolerant of what we wanted to create...I think it was an era when we could trust our intuition and think, "If Professor Sanejima wants to go with this, then let's go with it. ">If this scenario had come up for the first time now, I might have made a different decision.Regardless if you agree with the OP or not, games will NEVER go back to being good ever again.
something about chrono trigger breaks the cucks, goty all the years
>>728913892>been on shitdex for a decade>UHHHHH ERRRRRMMMM ITS /V/S FAULT NOT ME NOT ME
Chrono Trigger, Half Life 2, Silent Hill 2, GTA, Bioshock, Skyrim will never be good or classics.
>Half Life 1 was superior in every which way including the story (classic x-files style concept vs muh Gordon, you are amazing Gordon, that was so cool Gordon etc).Better gunplay, better arsenal (with more weapons on top of it), more interesting enemies, better set pieces, better level design, better scripted sequences, better AI (Combines were dumb as bricks compared to the marines in the original), better locations (Black Mesa is one of the most iconic settings in a video game and say what you will about Xen but it felt alien in a way few other locations ever did in a game).Half Life 2 was just hipster artsy fartsy bait. Sure the art was great but the game wasn't particularly substantial but normies don't care about that because they only go by feelz, not objectivity.>HL2 is mostly gimmicks that were pretty exciting the first time, and some of them remain fun on repeat playthroughs (killing zombies with the gravity gun and sawblades in Ravenholm). The vehicle sections sucked even on the first playthrough, especially the boat sequence that feels like a glorified QTE.>I'm more bothered by the super gravity gun part at the end, and at the beginning of Episode 1 myself, that got old fast and I didn't like it at all even on the first time around.The vehicle sections didn't bother me, probably because I like the ambience of the locations they covered. But I do have to admit that the boat section was indeed mostly a glorified walking sim and the constant stops to do some puzzle/busywork don't help neither during the boat section nor Highway 17.>HL2 was one of the biggest gaming disappointments for me.Instead of using the physics engine for emergent game play we got QTEs and boring puzzles.>Well, there are more physics interactions in Deus Ex than there are in Half Life 2.
>Means little when the execution is so terrible. Control is not taken away...but I'm locked in a 4x4ft elevator with this annoying bitch and I can't even slap her. Control is not taken away, but the conversation is so bland and boring I'd rather toss items around, jump around like a cokehead, and be generally disconnected from the bland and unengaging experience. Not taking away control is the best possible thing they could have done to take focus away from how shit, lame and gay the story is.>As usual, and as with the whole point of the thread, many other games did it better and well before. Including HL1.>Havok Physics is a proprietary middleware engine developed in 1999, and was used in many games between then and HL2. Real gamers were not very impressed. Sure, HL2 was probably the best implementation of it up to that point, but as octavius (and others) said the execution was underwhelming because the potential was there. HL2 could and should have been so much better.Who? Everyone posting in here talking the truth are long-term members, and PC gamers. I have been a PC gamer since the 90s (and anything else I could get my hands on). I played HL2 in the mid 2000s and it was subpar.>Who you calling consolefag when you were simping for FFX the other day, which was massive decline for that series too. You just gravitate to all the decline, don't you?
>>728884459In general, yes. I get that people hate them because they're a bunch of bitter old grognards but they do happen to be right about most things even if they are obnoxious retards.They're wrong about Arcanum though. They only like it because they like the idea of Arcanum. Arcanum the game is a half-finished pain in the ass to actually play.
It's pretty obvious once you get into any medium that what's famous is only what's easy to consume and not necessarily the best, simply of good enough quality to chew on (debatably)Very few people in any given medium take the time to delve deeper and corroborate with their peers over what's actually good, why it's good and try things out themselves. Also, something that bothers me from the og post is that it's not erasure of history, he's being extremely pedantic about it all. It's replacement at best, though all those older titles are still available widely, and anyone who actually gives a damn can go look for that sort of thing right now.What'll happen if you go look for games released in 80s to 90s is that you'll find a lot of middling to mediocre games. So, people who don't have a lot of free time just go look for what's being recommended.
>>728885145>Top 10>Shadow of the turdtreeYeah that tells me all I need to know
i am a shill and when i see people get mad, i laugh because its funny. its funny seeing chuds get angry
Only in the same way that everyone knows what chess is, what a religious document of choice is, and what Mr Magorium's wonder Emporium is but you can still play games less mainstream than chess, read something other than the quribblean, and watch the chumscrubber instead.Fuck if anything like the art stupid fucking arguement this is legitimization: Congratulations there's a mainstream basic bitch thing that 90% of the user base touches. It doesn't stop you owning a fucking liberarary.
>>728916073True, but I genuinely like some stuff that's dogshit to actually play.Drakengard is fucking awful, it's a bad panzer dragoon clone and no fuck off the gameplay being bad isn't intentional. Soul Reaver 2's gameplay is genuinely dogshit and was dogshit day one, not just in hindsight, but fuck me if it's not the best fucking thing I've played. Maybe I'm the otter with the watermelon, I don't know. The only things I do know is I don't actually give a shit what the objective value of something is to the majority and that this post is a thinly veiled excuse to get a six at the end of it.
>>728917747It’s not a matter of it being dogshit but that you’re honest enough to admit that it’s dogshit. So many people will not admit that the things they like are shit and use subjectivity to cope.
>>728884459>>728884832Mini Theft Assvibrator does not "le dominate" anything.Meds.
>>728908797So you're the same retard that posted in the forum got it.
>>728884832>catniggercattle>retardedwhy is it always so
>>728910463>Colony shipIt's good if you actually like reactivity and your build heavily influencing your playthrough. It's less good if you want engaging combat, games lasting longer than 15 hours or not being able to brick your run with your build and quest choices.
>>728885602>jagGOD alliance>underrailthey aight
>>728884459Eww! Cringe cringe cringe cringe...Are forums really like that? This is just stupid. The post has not a single argument to engage with. It's just virtue-signaling RPGCodex's general attitude back at them. It's a group-masturbatory post. OP is a fag. Real gaming connoisseurs and even many average Gamers will continue to play older games and know about them and not just look at the popular slop. It's not like the same happened to literature, opera or movies.
>>728884459It's a containment forum for /v/ tourist who never got the joke.
>>728884459>half of them taking the jonkler bait image from a decade ago seriously
>>728910463>>Is Colony Ship actually any good?lol
>>728884715when did /v/ turn into such normalfaggot normiehole?
>>728885602JA3 was excellent
I like the codex because since it's not anonymous you can go to the political subforum which is equivalent to /pol/ and see plain as day that everyone absolutely obsessed with western politics are Latinx, Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi, south east Asian or literally African. There was this one guy who was absolutely rabid about the Hunter Biden laptop shit and he was from Burkina Faso and lives in Fiji. It's basically /pol/ with forced flags, no proxy and no memeflags because brown people are "proud" of where they're from, put their location in their profiles and don't obfuscate it to pretend to be white.And of course not a single one of those people plays video games, on a site dedicated to video games, awfully familiar.
>>728923383so does this mean all the whites trannies now?
>>728923423Just a reflection of what was happening on twitter when Elon gave everyone's location away. Every "inevitable west" and "based trad redpilled HOORAH AMERICA" account was revealed to be from the third world.
>>728923570dang, so whites are basically cucks and all the browns are actually fighting to save them
>>728923693>admitting to being Indian on /v/
>>728923693no its just a grift
>>728884459Yeah, I'd say they're right, but what can ya do?
>>728884459>I am sick to death of the casual-gamer, lowest-common-denominator, sub-100 IQ retard wiping out gaming history with their mediocre, uninformed input. The internet was a mistake.Sounds like anon to be honest. A lot of people will say that the videogame audience is sold on to marketers, but the audience itself is groomed to accept what the market wants to sell to it - a conveyor of accessible, easily digestible, disposable and inexpensively reproduced slop.>People of the future are going to assume gaming of the past was all worthless trash. Many absolutely incredible works—an absolute privilege to have experienced—will be gone. Fuck these retarded parasites. And fuck sellout game devs that replaced them with totally worthless crap sequels and dumbed-down remaster rehashes to pander to bottom feeders.He's not wrong. Marketers don't actually want their audience discovering "hidden gems" or anything that might create demands for innovation or experiences that may prove challenging (or expensive) to create. Best to keep the pigs dumb and happy with their slop. When BG3 pushed the boat out even a little they were almost pilloried by the rest of the industry for creating "unrealistic expectations" amongst game consumers.
>>728923731>>728923748wow its all coming together now. BBC will save the white race, thats why white freemasons that are slaves to jews worship giant dick obelisks. they know who their savior is
>>728924249Yep, Indian confirmed.
>>728893849The codex likes disco elysium but I don't so I'm ok.
just some tranny seething that the trash he wants to talk about(and not play) isn't popular
>>728885602Underrail Heavy Duty is scam tier
>>728884459>or who play games “just for the story” and/or visual experience alone.He is right. these people are the worst.
>>728924384>destroys the white race>saves the white raceabsolutely buck broken
>>728925175>BBC>BUCK BROKEN KEK
why are brown people so schizophrenic
>>728885145>drovaare they serious? that shit is made for women and "cozy" with wokeness elements
>>728925190why is the word c u c k censored?
>>728885459>>728885602I don't get why people like Solasta
>>728925270First day here?
>>728892247As opposite to some e-celeb amirite?
>>728892247ill take those over literally who on twitter, youtube or reddit screenshots at least
>>728925890No... but first time I used this word.
>>728884459in the future there won't be any video games because white people are going extinct and the infrastructure will collapsehow are you going to play video games when there's no electricity
>>728884459kek
>>728926543we have taught him well, i am proud
>>728885145Achra is alrightHope the devs pulls though on his next project
>>728923570did 3rd worlders also elect Trump
These irrelevant retards support Ukraine.
>>728918762To be fair you have to admit Drakengard is dogshit. I'm pretty Cavia studios if it was still extant would admit it was dogshit.I still don't know how the third one got made. This was before Neir allatomatos so it's not like Yogo Targo had crazy pull. Anyway I always felt /v/'s big problem was that it's going to be impossible to gauge if anyone is just being a fuckwit or not. That was fifteen years ago, now it's even more impossible given the site popularity and the general meta of discussing fucking anything on the internet these days. Then there's AI. We're just fucked. Maybe we should genuinely just start discussing everything on actual mongolian basket weaving forums with a member pop of like 12 people.
>>728911293How does one become this irony-poisoned? According to sharteens, every existing piece of media is LE SOI at this point.
>>728928075t.
>>728929052Wojak isn't used only by sharteens. Wojak became an universal forum weapon, because 4chan couldn't let it go even when it was obvious it's been coopted and tainted.
>>728919646Excuse me, are you idiotic enough to for some reason believe he's not just quoting verbatim someone from RPG Codex? Are you seriously that unfathomably retarded yourself?
>>728885145>Dragon's Logma 2KEK now that's contrarianism
>>728925234>that shit is made for women and "cozy" with wokeness elementsGood morning Saar, do not redeem the woke
Not even reading it, but no, old PC fags are always salty as fuck that their weird arcane stuff, filled with bugs, and aimed at 45 year old men who work in IT, didn't attain the cultural relevancy of Mario, Sonic or Metal Gear Solid, as if they ever would have.Saying this as someone who likes and appreciates a lot of these old PC games.
>>728897540You are incorrect but in a question of degree. There were plenty of artists that died and only gain fame post death. Others were famous and loved. What can be said is that most of the time, time corrects a work's reputation. >>728897734There is another element at play to classical art: the artists who did it were themselves politicians in a way. Either in courts of kings or bankers, they had to play the game themselves. An autistic savant who couldn't market himself would not be able to even paint. That is why we see a bias in the histography for famous artist works.
>>728885028I remember at the time there was a deal of rivalry between Doom 3, Far Cry, and Half Life 2.And Half Life 2 is better, clearly.
>>728897540>literal opposite of what the guy said
>>728884459Gaming history has been erased for some time and that’s just Geocities it’s even worse when you add in the amount of modding sites and archives that have been purged.
Only old RPGs are good, everything else is reddit
>>728917656>Mr Magorium's wonder EmporiumIs this movie famous? I saw it long ago but it was so mediocre I can't imagine anyone remembering it
>>728930121How-so, honestly? You can literally just play old games.If anything, obscure old shit is easier than ever to get into. There are thriving communities, and things are just available. It's not like the old days, where either you knew a game existed, or you didn't. If you grew up in a place where for example Amiga games weren't on the shelves, then they may as well have just not existed.
>>728929979HL2 physics were quite something and they made great use of that in the gameplay itself and not just as a visual gimmick, this alone makes HL2, despite it's sort of weak gunplay, a very fun game to play still, and thanks to that and the amazing photorealistic visual direction that doesn't overuse outdated post processing, it still looks really nice.
>>728904965D1 doesn't deserve blowback for what D2 did.
RPGtroondex used to be a respectable place where legendary developers used to hang until they decided to fall in line with the chuddification of the internet and now the old user base has been entirely replaced by mentally ill people who probably still live with their parents or are on welfare. Last time I interacted with the site it was me wasting my time reading them gossiping like women about Josh Sawyer's life for like 20 pages and it was the saddest shit I had ever seen.
>>728929387t.
>>728930261I wouldn't even say HL2 is good because ofthe physics. It's primarily the scenario design, and the sense of going on a crazy journey across an alien occupied country.People who judge shooters purely on "gunplay" honestly just don't get it. That's maybe a third of what makes a game good, if even that.Don't even get me started on the arena shooter spergs.
>>728930464I like that it takes place over a few days and you play through all of that, and then it loops back to the place where it all started.Ironically, the other game like that that makes it feel like so much as happened in the span of a day is INFRA, another source engine game.
>>728930225In the sense that so much fan material that was on Geocities was erased when it was taken down or even worse when so many mod archives for games like Morrowind, Half Life 1, Dark Forces 2, Tsar Burden of the Crown have been destroyed. Just try to find user made levels for Half Life 1 multiplayer mods like Vampire Slayer, Wizard Wars, Action Half Life, Opera etc. or several TCs for Dark Forces 2 like Army TC or Final Fantasy TC. It’s impossible there’s that has them because it’s all been destroyed while garbage actual creative good content not erased. All while actual garbage on Twitter has been archived in the Library of Congress in thousands of terabytes.
>>728884459Lol, the OP in this is just being a rage baiting retard arguing on nothing but rhetoric and question begging. Despite arguing about "substance" he never really deeply analyzes the details or substance of any of the games he's talking about.He says that Chrono Trigger is a massively overrated pleb game. And what is the patrician alternative he holds up above it? Some hidden gem we've never heard of? Some obscure masterpiece being erased from history? Nope>"90s Final Fantasy"Fucking lmaoHe says that 90s Final Fantasy games were made with "10x the effort"(???). This, despite Square putting together a literal Dream Team to make Trigger. Despite Trigger's story being intricately woven together with emotional twists like Frog's and Magus's stories in contrast to FF's more straightforward epics. Despite Trigger having 14 distinct endings vs the FF games' singular ending. Despite the player's choices in Trigger having huge, visible impact on the world spanning multiple eras (adding even more variations on the 14 endings) vs FF's complete lack of player choice. Despite budget and development time having very little to do with the quality of a game. The dude either hasn't beaten Chrono Trigger or was too stupid to understand the scope of it when he did, because saying 90s FF has more quality and substance is monumentally retarded.
>>7289219702016 maybe?
>>728884832Isn't focusing on the most popular and culturally relevant things a historian's job? This isn't a "well 3D games existed before Mario 64, they deserve credit too" historical perspective, this is "why isn't the world obsessing over my niche games."If you show bias to some random scrimblo that sold 100 copies because it's "better" (read: subjective metric) than a popular and culturally impactful game, you aren't a historian, you're a marketer.
>>728930445t.
>>728884459As a former regular on the RPG Polack-Dex, all I can say is that I don't care and won't read it. They are always wrong.
>>728932369t.
>>728930816Is that stuff not archived anywhere?If they were widely played mods, people would have them, right?I just did a quick Archive.org search on the first one you mentioned, and found thishttps://archive.org/details/vampire-slayerI assume that's it.
>>728884459those guys are massive psueds and have extremely bad taste in gaming.
>>728928743>Maybe we should genuinely just start discussing everything on actual mongolian basket weaving forums with a member pop of like 12 peopleThat is generally the idea behind Discord, yes. >but I said forumsbe the change you wish to see in the world
NWN was the last decent RPG (OC was generic shit, but expansions really carried it)
>>728930852Having taken a brief look at all of the FF games on SNES, and Chrono Trigger (along with Earthbound, SMT, what have you..), Chrono Trigger strikes me as the most high effort game. Not necessarily the best, but surely the most spectacular.If you want to talk about cool hidden gems of the genre, then maybe GOD, or some actual obscure shit on PC-98 or something.
>>728933145No that’s an archived release of Vampire Slayer I’m talking about the user made levels that as far as I know aren’t archived. The only archive I have been able to find for that Vampire Slayer so far ishttps://www.dpbredux.net/vsarchive/and even then there is several levels that don’t work because there’s required WADs that included. The there are several other levels mentioned in READMEs that aren’t there. The situation is even worse for Wizard Wars I haven’t been able to find any archive of user made levels. The same with mods for Dark Forces 2 like Army TC and DBZ Half 1.2 Beta 3 so it’s clear that there is so much un-archived that should have really be preserved.
>>728933470>expansions really carried itYes, along with the vast amount of fan modules and mods.
>>728903770>>728914124Even this image is outdated
>>728924932How is it a scam? its pretty straightforward about it being small, no?
>>728911750Hello can you help me buy some pocky they don't seem to sell it at wal-mart
Your gaming catalog, sirhttps://rpgcodex.net/forums/forums/general-gaming.16/
Why does rpgnet have a kiwifarms thread but not these clowns?
>>728936224Because rpgnet is ultra woke
>>728936559Yes but OP posts are literally lolcow tier
Have you guys tried finding a job yet? This whole video game thing becoming your entire personalities is kinda pathetic.
>>728884715SPBP
>>728936629So just like /v/? What are you trying to argue here Mr Professional debater?
>>728937294Since 4chan has threads in kiwifarms, codex should have one too
>>728929469It's because we were flooded with election tourists who didn't understand the culture. Tons of newfags being echochambered by other newfags who didn't know these memes weren't meant to be deathgripped forever. That we dropped shit when reddit or others staked a claim.
How do we fix the Codex?
>>728938049It's too late for that. Let it die.
>>728907661>immersion, interactivity and reactivityYou need to understand that most people are shit eating retards that want something simple and digestible. They don't see those things as inherently good, and most of the time think reactive mechanics are just gimmicks.
>>728938049There's nothing to fix
>>728884459>Normalfags won’t talk about my favorite obscure game from the 90s that ls 10x better but I won’t mention it here either!!>history is literally being erased!!Equivalent of sperging that elementary school text books erase actual historical study. OP needs to get a fucking grip.
>BTW, whoever said i was wrong about the role of academia in preserving history and setting up standards, i think classical music contradicts that notion.>The market share of classical music when music relied on physical containers for distribution (cassettes, CDs etc), was like 1% of the total revenue, and there's no reason to imagine things got any better with the move digital.>And the majority of people out there know very little about classical music in general. There's an handful of pieces that managed to make it into pop culture (Pachelbel's Canon, Bach's Tocca and Fugue in d minor etc) but other than that most people are completely cluless.>And yet, the great composers are known to most, and there's a general idea that classical music is something that ought to be taken seriously and considered in high reguard, which is something most people accept even though nobody knows anything about it or listens to it. This notion is so ingrained in the cultue that even produced some veritable supersitious beliefs, like that baby Mozart CDs phenomena (which is utterly absurd, not just the unscietific aspect of it but the fact the music contained in those disks is shit Mozart wrote when he was a child, which has nothing genial about it at all. He only started to write masterpieces when he was in his early 20s).>And why is classical music held to such an high reguard? Because it's reputation and continued existence is upheld by institutions that are seen as serious and authorative by the majority.>Now sure, you can argue that academia has been taken over by nefarious groups and that they have been pushing satanic crap ever since, but that doesn't contradict the idea that in order to preserve something in the culture you need a "normative authority" that everybody is beholden to, otherwise a group devoted to such an endevour would just be seen as just another "fan club" as any other and in a game of numbers only what is popular is bound to be heard.
>You just discovered why past civilizations kept rising and falling. Because the last people with sense let them fall.Its not like the environment that created these great games exists anymore. Games weren't the only thing destroyed, but they were the first. The games of the future will be made by the remaining sub IQ global population. Hit titles such as: Redeem 1, Do not Redeem 3: the Redeemer, You Bloody Basterd! franchise, and the GOTY: How Can She Slap?
>>728938902chudcel rightoid rediscovers institutions
>>728936629>OP posts are literally lolcow tierhow
I've read through this forum and this guy is the only one who I can confidently say is a high IQ individual worth listening to.The rest is a literal shitpit of seething cretins no different than that of /v/.
>>728884832Didn't think I'd agree with whatever the post said but I agree unironically. Chrono Trigger barely counts as a game, same for Skyrim. It's movie trash
>>728939341Read this post again and tell me you still feel that way
>>728939836Sure, I do. I don't know what you want to achieve by editing his pfp to weebslop but that doesn't affect the fact that the text itself isnt retarded.
All those games reputation forever destroyed by the Codex.
>>728885145>a bunch of shit no one has heard ofwow it's like i'm on /mu/
The one thing missing from this forum is a clown emoji
>>728940831They have pepes and wojaks as post ratings
>>728941104It's over
>>728884459I used to be regular but I stopped going to the Codex more than 10 years ago.
>>728906583Live-a-Live used to be the tranny go to response because no one played it but it got finally got localized and showed the world they were full of shit.
>>728941317Why
>>728884459It's just one faggot screeching.
These are worlds that should not be colliding.
>>728941645It's a tranny forum.
>>728942131Name 3.
Not only they have good taste in rpg, but fps, rts, strategy and other genres too.They know about the good console and arcade games.
>>728939341guy's always been up his ass and impressive to 3rd worlders
>>728942406Considering the rest of you are literal sperging retards incapable of talking like actual human being, he's the best you have.
>>728941439>localizedYou did not beat the game.
>>728942380They can visit Rotten Tomatoes? Wow!
Where's the Top 100 /v/ list from this year?
Why the fuck can't I search the forums by keywords? What is this, 1975?
>>728942940The forum is duct taped together by a guy suffering heart problems who could croak literally any minute now.
>>728942940You have to login i think
I haven't seen an alf thread in quite a bit
>>728943047I made an account thinking it would allow that. But nope, it doesn't, unless that is restricted for new accounts for some reason.
What causes this behavior?
>>728911293>Everyone with personality leaves codex.It's true. I used to post on codex regularly but eventually quit, because the only people that left have nothing to contribute to the discussion.
>>728942258kingcomradekingcomradekingcomrade
>>728916073>Arcanum the game is a half-finishedArcanum isn't even half-finished.
>>728939341We're literally in the process of building it. Gaming is a young medium. Passionate people are only getting more serious about the idea of preserving things, and rediscovering lost classics.The notion that you need an "academic class" for things to be properly taken care of and accounted to is also 20th century thinking, frankly.
>>728910075You have been posting this in the vain hope anybody agrees with you for years. And nobody has agreed with you yet.
>>728939341Why?
>21 hour old thread>most of it is just bumpingjesus christ what is wrong with moderation
>>728910659Don't respond to this faggot. He has been doing this for years. It is the sega schizo. He went toth e codex and got assblasted by polish drunk poster, ever since then he has been spamming anti codex shit on chan.He is not even competent enough to not just copy paste his shit opinion.
>>728944189there's a rule that a discussion has to end after more than 20 hours?
>>728943027Dark Underlord has health issues? Should've moved more.
>>728944249What discussion? Its a screenshot of another board and users from that board arguing which of them are the most "based". (all of them are faggots and none of them belong here)/v/'s entire moderation staff needs to be fired. I am going to shit up the board so badly today.
>>728944714You can't shit on top of shit.
>>728944835The mods sure get pretty asshurt about anything that isn't related to their usual astroturf, so boy do I doubt that.
>>728944714>>728944881>>728944881can i join you?
>>728939341Sounds retarded>>728939836Now I'm convinced
>>728905320RPG Codex is kind of the apotheosis of "effortposters" on /v/ where they're just as braindead but they're more verboseSee also cripplechan /v/ -> 8kun /v/ since that's the kind of /v/ poster Mark likes to have around
As context, the buckbroken priest from WotR will not engage with you intimately at all if you don't request he paint you like one of his french girls or sissily fret over his safety when you save him from capture
>>728945224Dude I don't care, go back
>>728945224It's so funny that homophobic dudes keep delivering material for the number 1 gay male fetish, i.e. reluctant straight guys.>NOOO Sosiel, we can't, we're both boys...it's some wattpad-tier headcanon that this terrified straight guy is writing.
>>728945409you VILL participate in my kiwi farms thread on /v/ zat i can't get enough traction for on ze actual cyberbullying website
