Why is the sword and shield combo more iconic and “heroic” than the pragmatic spear or the intimidating axes, maces and hammers?
>>728895696Probably because of Excalibur and Durandal. Holy/magic swords are well known.
>>728895696>pragmatic>intimidatingthe answer is in the question
2H sword mogs
>>728895696A spear while the superior weapon is less fun than a sword and board. A spear you just need to poke someone, plus due to it's length you never need to engage with the enemy. The Sword and board however is more dynamic, you get in close, dodge and weave, a real battle of wits. Again, the spear IS the superior weapon, but it's literally easy mode when it comes to murdering one another. I mean can you imagine a fight between to spear users?
sword and shield is easier to carry while climbing or in a narrow cave, is comprised of more metal then other weapons so it looks cooler/is more expensive, and sword and shield roman legionaires beat greek spearfags and german axefagsnobody wants to tell a heroic epic about one of 1000 peasant levy spearmen holding a line, which is the only situation spears have an actual advantage (and even then swordchad landsknechts just used 2 handed swords to smash their sticks lmao)
>>728895696>swordEmblematic of officers and duelists, being rarer and more valuable than a spear. Also requires more skill to use.>spears For common soldiers.>axes, hammers, macesThe weapons of laborers and brutes (jobbers of the ancient era).
>>728895696axes and maces were typically given to plebs because they're easy to wield. same with spears i guess. swords require more skill to wield so people with swords command more respect in the eyes of everyday people
>>728896181yeah but imegine how awesome it would feel to just slam a mace into someones skull
the real question is why sword and shield is considered the "default" and not a big 2 handed weapon
>>728896347why bother when you can smash them with your shield or the bottom of your sword like a hammer?
>>728895696>the pragmatic spearseen as a coward's weapon but also the kind of thing you would put in the hands of an idiot farmer because it doesn't take much intelligence to use it
Sword and shield was more common imo, spears were used against cavalry.
>>728896526t. asshurt by the phalanx formation
>>728896526Cowards use shields, its why most games internally punish or laugh at you for handling one.
Swinging a stick is more fun than jabbing with one
>>728897083Name 5 games that do that.
>>728896285>axes and maces were typically given to plebs because they're easy to wield.wrong and retarded. maces are kind of a meme, but axes have always been relevant and used by everyone from plebs to kings all the way until the end up the medieval era where melee weapon design peaked with the poleaxe. besides that the primary weapon in war for knights other parts of the nobility was a spear called a lance, maybe you've heard of it?
>>728895696>swordIconic because of legendary connotations, like Excalibur>shieldInstinctive desire to have at least one protective tool
>>728896426because their head won't look like a deflated basketball afterwards
>>728895897>Gungnir and Gáe Bulg
Spears definitely have heroic connotations, especially in Asia. I don't personally find the sword to necessarily be more heroic at all. More elegant and aristocratic? Absolutely, but not more heroic.
>>728897346More like gay bulge
>>728897396>why are you gae?
>>728897346The average person doesn't know what those are or how to even say them.
>>728895696>spearKind of a long distance coward/fodder weapon. Not fitting for a hero. Also, you're fucked with a spear if an enemy gets past the tip, which is incompatible with the idea that heroes should charge in and fight duels and shit.>axes, maces and hammersA bit too gory. Neat cuts are more heroic than crushing your enemies' skulls. The same range point also applies here. A long 2 handed weapon with the killing part at the tip is useless close up.
>>728895897>gay bulge
>>728895696the current cultural image of what's heroic fantasy is heavily shaped by medieval romances, which were themselves heavily shaped by what the upper-class elites of the periods that inspired them used. if we spent hundreds of years depicting heroes after the image of achilles we'd probably think shield and spear was simply more iconic
>>728895696a typical broadsword of the sort you would tend to see in myths is a long chopping and thrusting weapon. The whole weapon part of the weapon is a single worked piece of metal. Spears are basically knives on sticks. Much cheaper and more conservative use of scarce material. Swords are more iconic because they are flashy status symbols as well as practical implements, and lots of people would probably argue that the practical usefulness of the sword is secondary to its usage as a display of wealth.
>>728897346My pet theory is that Odin is depicted as using Gungnir because its a weapon that can double-up as a walking stick for an old man, and it can also double-up again as looking like a magical staff, as Odin is a sorcerer.
>>728897590>spears for cowards. not heroesYou know whats interesting? There are more folk heroes that use a spear than use a sword. Spears were the symbol of "I will win", a spear held over head was the sign of "still standing" and when it fell low that was the sign of death, it was specifically the symbol of a spear every time. It seemed to turn to swords in more modern stories and retellings, when swords became a symbol of status, everyone could afford a spear, few could afford a sword, having a sword made you stand out, and made you a hero.>pulls out sword and holds it high so everyone can see>puts it away>grabs a spear/lance/axe/halberd etc because they actually know thats what wins fightsThis is how it tends to go.
Coolness =/= historical accuracy. Revolvers are heavily associated with westerns when in reality most gun fights were won with lever action rifles and shotguns.
>>728895696I think its a case of swords typically require more skill and more associated with individual fighting while spears are more useful for large formations making it harder to stand out also did the new primarl season air because I want to know what the whole zombie thing is going to be about
>>728896095You can still parry with a spear and dodge if you keep distance. Spear fights can be kino
>>728901275A lot of sword wank comes from the later era of cavalry and officers having them around.
Spears are seen as a noob weapons whereas one-handed swords are what show-offs who like to do fancy shit use.
some flavor of spear/sword and shield is the basic fighting gear for almost all warriors through human history, sword and spear chads should stand together
>>728895696it's less cowardly than a spear which is a longer range weapon, but the shield makes it so you can still defend yourselfswords are also more versatile than axes, hammers, or maces
>>728901719Id agree with this but I would consider Darth Maul to be using a spear, and that shit looked cool. I feel like you can just make them do cool stuff beyond poking, even at that you can make poking a lot cooler than just thrusting the weapon forward.
>>728896420Yeah, I'm confused about this too, especially when it gets paired up with plate armour.
>>728895696why genndy cannot make good endings?
>>728901940>>7288964202h swords have specific use cases in real life combat, the sword n board conquered the ancient board with the romans. i'd rather weeb out with a katana if I'm going solo sword
>>728895696Nobility and Heraldry vs Pointy Stick
>>728901997Blows his load on everything leading up to the ending.
>>728896420you have to be incredibly strong to swing a big 2 hander around in a way that's visually interesting enough for stageplays, film, or television, and that carried over into other media until berserk
>>728897260my argument wasn't that those weapons weren't relevant, my argument was that those weapon are not as glamorous as swords because anyone could use them effectively including knights n' shiet
>>728901275I think it goes back to this anons point >>728899539 trends and norms change.
Sword is easy to carry so the hero can keep his hands free to do all kinds of stuff, and allows him to have long, flashy duels with a fun mix of cuts and thrusts, then finish it with a minimally disturbing thrust through the heart or lopping off of the head. Its hard to have a lighthearted whimsical tale that involves the protagonist splitting a guys head in half or macing a guy in the face so hard his teeth and eyes fly out of his skull and he collapses to the ground spasming and shitting himself. Swords are also a symbol of status, and more effort can be put into making a sword expensive and exotic than blunt objects or things with shorter blades
>>728895696Swords were always for rich and noble, when spears and axes are cheap.
A Shield would have really helped here.https://youtu.be/gpsoA8AxE1Y?si=dkMzSKzMWtcgLTy_
>>728895696because swords are more expensive and for people of higher standing.That only changed later.
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>>728901997>why genndy cannot make good endings?It reminded me of Red Dead Redemption, actually. Caveman was a relic of the past (literally).
>>728896095big sword beats spear though
>>728897346I am aware of them but most people are more Familiar with Arthurian mythos than Norse or Irish mythology. I mean how many people outside of Ireland know who Cú Chulainn is? But everyone is familiar with King Arthur due to centuries of stories and adaptations. Also I know that Norse mythology has become more well in the past 50 years but your average person is only going to know beyond what is explicitly mentioned. Most people think Odin is either a generic god king or wizard.
hema here, if you think spear is better than sword you are dumb
>>728899539Now to rape
>>728901997Well, Spear has a 2nd Season to get something back.Hopefully.
>>728895696Because sword + shield is basically the peak of human equipment before guns stopped being mediocre.
>>728895696Axes are for woodcutting and war. Spears are for hunting and war. Swords are only for war(and later on, fashion) and thus seen as more pure, noble and idealistic.
>>728901938Darth maul uses twin blades and that's literally a fantasy weapon made for fancy fighting, that's the furthest thing from a spear you could've used as an example.
>>728901938>>728908557But I would like to add that yea, bo staff looks fuckin badass and it's not usually interpreted as a basic conscript weapons like spears are so I don't put them in the same category
>>728904907*ravish
>>728895696Swords compensate for short penises
>>728896420So you don't get one tapped by a naked guy with a bow.
>>728897083Only Bloodborne does that, and even Miyazaki caved and added an anti-magic shield in the DLC.
>>728901938is that fiora vs jax?
>>728895696this motherfucker is coming back as a zombie
>>728895696Shields are a symbol of protection and strategic warfare, while 2 handed weapons symbolize reckless brutality and carnage. Swords are often used over spears to allow the hero to engage is cooler 1v1 duels, doing stuff like looking blades while face to face with the big bad, knocking the sword out of the opponents arm with a decisive slash ect.
>>728895696> Twin Towershields> Scythe> 2H Sword> Waraxe & Sickle> Longsword & Kiteshield> Battleaxe> Ringblade> Twin Waraxes> Whip> Flail (including the longer Polearm variant)> Shortsword & Dagger> Twin Shortswords> Warclub> Waraxe & Buckler> Nunchucks> Sickle & Buckler> Shortsword & Buckler> Knuckles> Greathammer> Polearm> Twin Tonfas> Twin Daggers> Spear> Tonfa & Buckler> Mace> Longbow> CrossbowBowfags must be reminded of their place, epsecially filthy Crossbows, the only ranged weapons we need are big fucking rocks and literal dead and diseased livestock to spread plague to our enemies.
>>728895696Any good games centered around using a spear?
>>728901997>shat the bed with samurai jack ending>shat the bed with his unicorn buttfucker whatever show ending>lightly shat the bed with primal endingsomeone needs to be his tard wrangler
>>728895696The shield represents the purpose of the heroTo defend what is held dearThe sword represents the nobility of the role as well as the reality that there are threats that can only be solved by their death.
>>728895696>Why is the sword and shield combo more iconic and “heroic” than the pragmatic spear or the intimidating axes, maces and hammers?Probably because of Conan the Barbarian, and Frazetta's influence.
>>728895696Heroes fight lightly armored bandits.Spears are against cavalry.Hammers are against heavy armor.Axes are for chopping wood.
>>728897346I've read a few versions of The Hound, or Tain Bo Cuailinge, or some anthology with Cu,chulainn, and the description of Gae Bulg is always baffling and doesn't seem to correspond at all to a spear. Sometimes it's described as dart that's thrown with the toes. Sometimes a branch that splits into many branches inside the victim's body. Sometimes it seems described as a homing missile that flies on it's own when thrown, and sometimes, it's a dart that is never even touched physically by Cu,chulainn, but is cast and controlled with his mind.Also some descriptions of the Riastrad sound awfully close to Cu,chulainn going Super Saiyan, his hairs standing on end and emiting light from the tips. Shit is nuts.
>>728895696Because it's the most practical comboSpear is good but it's for formation fighting and games don't do that since you're usually the one man army typeSword and board Allows for fanged defends and up close Nd personal fighting which everyone lovesNow...the longbow? That's the weapon I'd use.
>>728897346Fire emblem 4 reference
Spear and crossbow.Your next move, noblekeks?
>>728912324>>728911156This is the real question, why aren't there more legendary bows and archers?>Been a sport practiced by peasants and nobility for thousands of years>Competitive as fuck, always in the tournaments>Also good for taking down beasts>Some dork with a bow can take down the best sword/spear/axefag in the world from 50m away.accuracy was basically a medieval superpower
>>728896095all those wonderful words and you miss a wonderfully sublte pointSWORDandBOARDthe peoples love when shit rhymes, dawgno more needs to be said. sword n' board 5eva
>>728896285axes are a commoner's tool to chop woodhammers are a commoner's tool to drive nailsswords are some bougie shit
>>728914486Well if all you have is a hammer everything starts looking like nails anon, you wouldn't get it
Just add a Bayonet to a Blunderbuss. Now you have all the joys of a Spear, plus the fun of shooting the problem in the face.
>>728895696Barring that a Sword and Spear are usually worn together like a samurai's Uchigatana and Wakazashi Spears and polearms are weak against shields, struggle with armor more because of their length, and generally struggle with finishing the race so to speak. They are necessary against cavalry though.Axes, Maces, and Swords (through foining) excel in the last of the fight, where armor must be defeated and spears struggle to get in. Those weapons also pair much better with shields, which are strong indeed against spears and polearms. A sword in particular with a shield gives the most flexibily and range of attacks, so it ends up being the best (because of foining, a very important technique) And in the bonuses of it being a multi-purpose weapon that can be one-handed, two-handed, worn on horseback or foot, worn indoors or outside or on a ship. It allows intimate fighting in so many ways in so many places. I'm actually of the opinion that rapier and buckler are the king of weapons, and can easily defeat large swords and polearms.
Can't speak for bows specifically but there are plenty of legendary archers, Robin Hood, Minamoto no Yorimasa, Hou Yi, Odysseus, Artemis if you want to get into gods.
>>728914891Meant for >>728914223
>>728895696Because swords have an heir of sophistication and nobility. The hero isn't a commoner, so he wouldn't use a spear, and he's also skilled enough to not need a brutal weapon like a hammer.
For me, it's a flail and parrying dagger. Dumb as hell but cool as hell too
>>728897190Skyrim, Skyrim LE, Skyrim SE, Skyrim VR and Skyrim AE
More games need to be like Monster Hunter where the Shield is practically a weapon itself.
>>728915016>heirair*
>>728915283Dragon's Dogma's Fighter would also be a good example of the Shield being a viable weapon.I do wish Gunlance used it's Shield more.
>>728915345That's why I'm forever a Lance main. Gunlance is cool but I despise being given a defensive slab of metal and not being allowed to beat things with it. With lance, you get fun shit like shield dashes and bashes, and counter spikes.
>>728896095>A spear while the superior weaponJust factually wrong. Stopped reading.
>>728895696>intimidating axes, maces and hammersSwords are better than these
>>728895696the most iconic weapon is an axe though
>>728895696symbolism in rituals like the knighting of someone being done with a sword, leading to the linking of swords to heroes via fictional magical weapons
>>728902650you can work around a mace crushing people's skulls just as easily as you work around a sword cutting someone's belly open, you just hit the bad guy and they go "argh I am defeated" and fall over
>>728901609>SpoilerNah, season 3 starts January 11
>>728913791its lighting
>>728897379>>728895696Swords are the most artsy weapons. Sword fights in media are elaborate dances.While some kung fu movies do some cool shit with spears, they aren't that great for the whole "parry exchange"idea of swords.
>>728895696Axes are tools. Wood chopping tools repurposed as weapons.Spears are tools too. Primitive and made for hunting.Maces, hammers, such are niche and not half as dangerous.A sword is a tool of war and war alone. It exists for one purpose and that is to kill. The greatest symbol of a battlefield. It is also the most versatile weapon. Capable of stabbing, slashing, defending, it can fill in any role. They can be small, and one handed, long and dangerous. Every variation only exists for purposes of warfare. There's really nothing quite as embodying violence against man as a sword. Spears are a second. They are heroic enough. They are also heavily associated with war. But just not as great as swords. Spears are simply more mundane. They take less craftmanship to create, and are the weapon of the masses, who can't afford better. Any army that could afford sword and shields was better served by using them. Roman legions, with their sword and shield, ended the reign of the Greek phalanx spears, simply because they dedicated that extra effort to arm everyone with swords and shields. They didn't expect their armies to arm themselves, so they could afford superior equipment.Every elite unit in history has been associated with swords. Spears are just for the masses, the lower weapon, for those that can't afford better.
Swords also relate to nobility and heraldry. In many medieval cultures around the world the owning/carrying of a sword is reserved for upper classes or those with power. They're easier and more convenient objects to make into legends.
>>728914037I fucking love getting revenge.
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>>728895696My understanding is that a spear and shield user generally loses in a one on one duel to a sword and shield user. Spears are very limited to just stabbing and blocking punishes them heavily which is why a swordsman fighting another swordsman is way cooler because they can do many more things. But in bigger battles the spear is absolutely devastating and a perfect example is the Phalanx formation. Basically, just imagine many spearmen with shields bunched up together just mass poking targets. The swordsmen may block one, but then multiple more start coming and you just can't stop the onslaught. Kind of boring and not very flashy or very "honourable", but yeah, it's total annihilation on a battlefield. That's one of the reasons why sword and shield is more iconic in gaming.
>>728895696idk but for me personally it's because of ocarina of time. i love being a sword and board chad.
>>728896347>>728897298ive been begging games to do this. they always, at best, just make the head explode. they need to make the head cave in, or partially rip open.
>>728918821this looks like a game ive been wanting for a long time. early access though?
I cast fist.
>>728904795>I mean how many people outside of Ireland know who Cú Chulainn is?Probably everyone that plays Mabinogi and has watched Fate.
>>728895696Because the sword has always been considered as the sidearm. The weapon of last resort. The thing you pull out when the reach of your polearm has been breached. If you manage to win with the odds stacked against you to the point that you're resorting to your sword, then you are an icon. You are a hero.
>>728921540iirc it's one of those games that's basically never gonna come out of early access. Pity, since it's the best-looking traditional roguelike I've ever seen
>>728895696Excalibur.
>>728896095Plus The spear is the common mans weapon, the sword has more nobility to it. A grander call of destiny in it
>>728896095I don’t get the joke the gif is making
>>728912478>unicorn buttfuckerI should get around to watch it, even if the girl looked way better in the concept art. At least I know there's a foxy lady waiting for me.
>>728921407>Kind of boring and not very flashy or very "honourable", but yeah, it's total annihilation on a battlefield.There's a reason why we used pikes for so long (which later evolved into long rifles with bayonets). Pike and shoot was very relevant for a very long time.
Is Primal worth watching?I'm still pissed about Samurai Jack S5.
>>728922910Depends on how you feel about the caveman never fucking the dinosaur and getting raped by the bald chick.
>hehe, polearm user goes *boing*
>>728901938Staffs are cooler than spears.
>>728921407mordhau game executed this concept very well in terms of spear balancing. its the 2nd highest costing weapon behind the halberd if i remember so you cant dully deck your armsman in plate armor but does very well in team fights since its basically free poking hits from safety. In duels its pretty much ass if i remember since you really can only do stabs in a game about abusing your attack manipulation
>>728918053Swords are tools too. They're just evolved knives.>maces and hammers aren't dangerousOh, my bad. You're either retarded or trolling.
He protec his pplsHe attac his foesAny questions?
>>728895696The sword was bith a civilian weapon and military sidearm.
Primal already turned into a wamenshit show
>>728895696The real reason is that swords were expensive to make for most of history and they were "purpose built weapons", while axes, bludgeons, polearms and even spears were usually evolved from tools. Even bow and arrow was a tool for hunting.That's why nobles favoured swords as status symbols. And what nobles favoured gets the most romantized which is why the sword is the heroes weapon.Fr me personally: Two handed bludgeons > One handed bludgeons > Slashing polearms > Two handed axes > Two handed spears > Two handed swords > One handed axes > One handed spears > One handed swords > Daggers and KnivesWhen it comes to fiction like video games, I like to lean more into the beastial fighter side. I generally prefere the rough adventurer over the fancy pants noble.
>>728922910Pro Al’s awesome. It manages to tick both of these boxes.
>>728923442Doom was always for retarded mouthbreathers too stupid to play real games. At least Eternal is kind of challenging.
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>>728914223Because it was so good that it was considered bitchmade to do so up until partway into the medieval era.Like the classical Greeks in particular viewed ranged combat as a necessary evil of warfare and melee combat, epically that between two champions while their warriors forced a circle around them as grand and heroic. Turns out that moments when a fight is between two guys that are cool after which you are given permission to run away if your guy dies it much more likes than a dude shooting you with an arrows from on top of a wall.Then that cultural imprint just lingered around
>>728914223>Some dork with a bow can take down the best sword/spear/axefag in the world from 50m away.But not the hammerfag with his heavy padded hardened steel armor that will make arrows slip off its curved surface.
>>728897346>Norse religions>Cool
>>728923830Now scandinavia is covered is beautiful lush forests while the british islands are as barren as queen Elizabeth II's pussy. Biggy thinky.
>>728896095>A spear while the superior weaponThere are no superior weapons. Medieval weapons were warfare version of rock, paper, scissors.>>728912324Found the butthurt Frenchie.To this day longbowmen are showing your knights the two fingers.
>>728923609Is this bait?
>>728923442I meant to say Primal. Fucking autocorrect
>>728924302I played & shunned Doom before you were born, anon. A lesser game for the masses to consume and avoid two braincells connecting. You can't deny that.
>>728923150Is there any particular reason you decided to remove the "as" from the quote, other than to be a dick?Yeah, hammers aren't as dangerous as sharp blades.>Swords are tools too. They're just evolved knives.The post was, very obviously, distinguishing between general purpose tools, and instruments of violence. Let me quote another part from it. "A sword is a tool of war." Anyone with basic reading comprehension can understand this, I'm sure you can too, but you simply want to waste time pretending you don't and nitpick pointlessly.
>>728924457>Yeah, hammers aren't as dangerous as sharp blades.They most certainly are. More so, even. Unlike a sword wielder, a hammer user doesn't give a fuck if you're wearing armor.
>>728924669I was allowed to handle hammers as a kid. No one would let their kids carry swords. Do we really need to be obtuse about this?
>>7289247061. Tool hammers are diffferent from warhammers and maces. A warhammer generally has a longer handle than a tool hammer and the claws are replaced with a sharpp beak. The hammer side is usually pronged or spiked. Some warhammers had top-spikes too. So while a sword is deadlier than a tool hammer, it's not deadlier than a warhammer. Tool hammers are still deadly and have been used by peasants, thugs and archers.2. A warhammer or tool hammer requires more strength and skill to do damage with than a sword. A chid with a hammer won't be as dangerous as a trained warrior.
>>728924706What you may or may not have done as a kid has no relevance as to whether or not crushing weapons has more raw power than slashing weapons.
>>728895696>>728895696Because spear, axe and hammer are tools for regular people. Sword and shield are actual tools of war and sword also served as cross to add semidivinity to knights and other people who couldn't afford swords.
>>728924669"hammers" became a thing because people were wearing plate armor and decent helmets, before that no one would use them for war (unless you were a rebelling peasant)
>>728896420The DEFAULT needs to be somewhat balanced, in the middle, not an extreme of a roleplaying systemGames with broad build options will have big 2H axes and maces at the STR extreme, dual wielding daggers at the DEX extreme and giant tower shields with full plate at the STA extreme. A medium weight one handed sword and small/medium shield guy is a sensible mid point who can be nimble, strong or sturdy
wooden spears are far inferior to swordiron spear either weight too much for single person Any good sword can easy cut spear
>>728924992I'm pretty sure that club, poor man's hammer, was used for combat way before humans invented clothing.
>>728895696Nobles used swords and also got to write history
>>728924992>>728925441Maces and hammers were used all through history.They were much cheaper and easier to make than blades and they could be made with rock or bronze where blades needed tougher materials to be any effective. And they could still bash in an unarmored guys head just as well.One handed variants were generally used with shields to make up for their lesser defensive capabilities than a sword.
>>728895696Just look at the timeline. Spears were the OG heroic weapon but then swords took over when they became popular.A simple reason is also that swords just look cool.
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>>728925679This is one of those weapons that are better than being empty handed but only barely.I would probably pick a stout branch over this.
>>728924421>well what do you think is a good game?>Uma musume!calling it now
>>728913791>"riastradh" is that he bleeds from his forehead and turns into a hulk monster where one eye bulges out, his mouth becomes huge and his hair becomes spikes emiting a fire that forms a halo, and his head can turn 360 like an owl.>the spear bursts into multiple barbs and can be "shot". He was so good with his weapon he could throw it with his foot and seem to control it without moving.>had a premonition about the death of someone he loved and himself so instead made it speak only of himself. He tied himself to a pillar stone to face his fate, in doing so changed the fate of many people if not himself by lasting longer than his premonition and not trying to escape it even with knowledge of it, which spared the people he loved, as noone would approach the stones because they thought he was still alive the whole time he was deadThis is some anime shit. Id seen the statue before I didnt know thats what this was. Id like to see more other mythologies used for stuff other than just norse and greek. What else is there to look into? Spear that sounds like a shotgun sounds rad.
I will use Sword and Hammer at the same time, the perfect dynamic duo.
>>728895696Spears suck at dueling but works great in groups.
>>728896420RomeSword and board is safe, reliable, usable forever as a starter weapon but never gets bad with more skill
>>728925859It's just heavily specialized against pizzas.
>>728925859>but only barely>implyingBear hands doesn't let you nick an artery to end a fight right away. A pizzacutter however... or anything else that has a sharp edge and isn't too unwieldy. Like a pair of scissors, as demonstrated by that fotm video from a few years ago.
>>728929726>Bear hands doesn't let you nick an artery to end a fight right awayI disagree
>>728923609Unfortunately Quake doesnt appeal to normies
The average person experiences the effects of cutting far more than piercing something or bludgeoning something. So the sword automatically is globally the most relatable weapon.
>>728895696The sword is the equivalent of most iconic action heroes having identifiable pistols. Not "sidearms", but because they are the most universal every day carry weapons for the common man.War settings get the rifles and longbows, tanks and horses. Non-war, Civilian settings, it's pistols and swords.Swords are the weapon of the every day hero because the every day man should be packing heat.
>>728899183RAW ARSE
>>728931941Also most fantasy heroes aren’t exactly going to the frontlines in a war. They’re going into dungeons and other fantasy urban zones.Taking a side/shortsword or even a greatsword with them like some did irl fits their adventures better than axes or spears.And usually guardsmen in these places have a proper polearm with them.
>>728904190Kino fight scene.
>>728913158He used a variety of weapons though.
>>728895696Swords were/are status symbols because of how much more metal was involved in their making
>>728928745I would rather use a shield with my one handed hammer for more defense.I think kite shields are my favourite because they have a good coverage VS encumbrance ratio. I would imagine a tower shield would make it difficult to strike. Also kite shields can be used offensively too.Tower shields look cooler in video games though, which is why I tend to pick them there.
>>728923150>um acksully a sword is a knife Holy retard
>>728924929Reeks of chatGPT
>>728922746I mean, why make incoherent comments at all? you don't even like to shitpost.
>>728896095>a real battle of witssword obviously wins style points but the wittiest thing you can possibly do in a fight to he death is choose the tool that lets you win.
>>728901719I prefer staves that can be used as spears, polearms, swords, and twinblades at the same time.
>>728933526and because they were practical to carry around so could be used as fashion accessories, unlike a Halberd which you're not going to carry on your back to a public event
>>7288964202hander is for area denial, and jobs to archers/ranged opponents, unless you are a witcher and can parry arrows/bolts/bullets.
>>728915601He's objectively correct. In any fight, distance is the single biggest advantage one can have.
>>728908557>>728908634>bo staffStaves are cool, practical, can be very adaptive, and can outmatch sword/1h on the same skill level.
>>728912324>Bowfags must be reminded of their place, epsecially filthy CrossbowsAnd yet they evolved into sneak archers in modern days, sporting lead spitters of all kinds and daggers.Total rangefag supremacy.
>>728933937>I don't like it so it is AI.Fuck off, nigger!
>>728913339>Axes are for chopping woodAnd doors, and fortifications, and light and medium armor, and fools who think axes are for chopping wood.
>>728934415A quarterstaff is my self defense weapon of choice when going outside at night.When it comes to weapons you are allowed to openly carry in europe, a quarterstaff is certainly one of the more effective choices if you know how to use it. It's a polearm that is legal to carry for civilians.
>>728895696Because it's the most skill intensive one. Spears are easy to learn and for plebs, while axes and bludgeons are for barbarians and brutes.
Shocked at how few anons seem capable of picking up a visual cue as basic as a hero having a shield, which implies a focus on defending instead of attacking. Meanwhile what do villains usually have? A mighty greatsword, axe, 2H weapons which imply a focus on offense. There are exceptions to both of these obviously (like Guts and all the characters aping him) but these are the default for a reason: Villains are proactive, they start conflicts, they go on the offensive. Heroes are reactive, they don't start conflicts, they defend themselves and what they hold dear.
>>728900364No it's because Odin was a koryos god and the spear was the weapon and hunting tool of the destitute koryos. See also Quirinus, Apollo Lyceus, Lugh, Perun.
>>728900364No, that's because he was a war god.>>728936060>Spears are easy to learn and for plebsI mean, yes but no?
>>728934639Pirates commonly used axes as both weapons and breeching tools for wooden doors in one.
>>728934171>stave>can be used as a swordDon't think I've ever seen that before
>>728936106Okay Liberal
>>728938260There are staves with concealed swords inside them.You can then dual wield the staff and the sword, using the sword offensively and the staff as a parry stick.
>>728938260You swing it and use it like a sword. Sure, its a bit dull on the edge, yet still can bonk decently. As if swords were not used as blunt weapons either...
>>728938445Does a wooden practice sword count as a staff, club, or is it like a dull sword? If you used one you would say you're practicing your swordsmanship. I'd say by it's nature as a weapon it's a sword.
You can technically practice sword fighting with a quarterstaff of the right length and weight.But I think using a wooden sword for pracice is better.Unless you are a russian and practice using the real deal weapons, murdering your sparring partner in the process.
>>728895696Finish Sym Bionic Titan already
>>728938439I have actually never seen that before in vidya, at least I don't think I have, sounds pretty cool. You think one of the splitstaff stances in nioh 2 would've been more like that
>>728923378So Mace?
