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Zoomers are starting to put it together...
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>>728897989
>7 or 6
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>>728897989
Final Fantasy doesn't have an identity anymore. It's gray pop-culture slop that's artificially hyped for years and then immediately forgotten upon release.
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>>728898103
what's interesting is that you can kinda see the decline
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>>728898296
They couldn't evolve past the PS2.
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>>728897989
Stop advertising your channel retard.
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>>728898296

Well yeah, you spend a decades pissing on your fans and """reinventing""" yourself for a modern audience (and failing miserably) it's no wonder you burn your entire brand to cinders.
I'm a little surprised it took a French game for zoomers to come to this conclusion, but hey, whatever brings the ship in to port.
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>>728898296
i wonder how many bought remake without knowing that it wasn't the full game
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>>728898103
There aren't really any games that have a big cultural identity anymore. AAA games are all forgettable corposlop now and indie games just aren't big enough to make that dent. Even zoomers are getting sick of current movie slop.

Open TikTok and you're more likely to see zoomers sharing clips from 20 years ago than anything from games and movies that came out in the past decade.
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>>728898296
The damage 15 did to FF is something to behold.
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>>728898479
I did.
I thought it was ff7 with modern graphics.
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>>728898375
I don't think the problem was evolution, the problem was what it evolved into. They sacrificed their old fanbase on the altar of progress for a new and younger fanbase, but when that ritual failed, they were left with no fanbase at all.
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FFX-2 is much better than FFVIII and FFX.
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>>728898509
What are you talking about? Expedition 33 just won every award on the planet and has re-locked itself on Steam's global top seller list for weeks now.
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>>728898717
Truth nuke
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>>728898717

10-2 has a better combat system than... pretty much everything after it. But in terms of story, characters, plot and world it's weaker than 13, 14, 15, and 16. I think I'd still take 10-2's characters over Remake/Rebirth though.
Every character in FF7R is so flanderized they're barely even the same people anymore.
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>>728898717
If we ever get a Job-based turn-based FF again, I sincerely hope they implement something like the dress sphere grid system in it.
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>whine about FF7 Rebirth for hours while doing a shitty Al Pacino impression like he has a Tourettes tic because it's the only thing that gets him views
>any time someone ask him about a game he either hasn't heard of it, hasn't played it, or both
Why do you faggots like this E33 shill?
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FFXII was fun despite the change in the gameplay tho
But after that era, rpgs devs thought that turn based was dated, in the same way when we went from 16bit to 32bit they thought "2D dead we need to 3D".
Obviously there exceptions in rpgs like DQ and some handheld stuff, or 32/64bit Saturn existed, SotN, MM, etc
Devs keep forgetting that what matters is if game is well done, DQ proved that and indies. But then you have suited guys that want results(big money) and come with "studies" like shit as "people want fast, short games, they have no time to play long sessions" and then reality keeps proving these guys how wrong they are

I think FF will be back to fully turn base one day because of others success. At least they remembered Tactics still existed
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>>728898479
literally me, will never forgixe Square shitix for this
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>>728898296
People really just wanted FF7 but in HD but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Nomura just HAD to pull the time jannie shit.
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I love the part where he says streamers are playing 13 at 4x speed. Why are 'gamers' like this?
>Yooo it's totally the best game ever bro
>*fast forwards and skips through as much of it as possible*
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>be SE
>make FF Spirits Within
>gets fucked in the ass
>somehow they didn't learned
HOW FUCKING HOW?
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I really only liked FF6 and FF15. I just think the magitek aesthetic looks really cool.
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>>728899206
There is a timeline where they just remade FF7 and released it as a full game. No DLC, no decade waiting time between games, no ruined characters, no time jannies, no multiverse... just a prettier looking FF7. It almost makes me sad to think about.
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>>728897989
none of that is true at all.
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who is this mystery meat and why should I take his terrible opinion seriously?
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>>728897989
I don't think those games looked better than anything else on those consoles. In terms of specifically 3D graphics, crash bandicoot clears.
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I've never played a Final Fantasy game. Is the series worth getting into in 2026? Which one should I play?
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>>728897989
that's a zoomer? poor guy looks like he's 40
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>>728897989
Where does this thing scale on the creatura chart? abominación?
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>>728899485
>money
Lmao but FF7 Retarded is an economic disaster. The PC port has literally not managed to cross 800k units sold yet:
>https://gamalytic.com/game/2909400
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>zoomers think that pre-rendered cg backgrounds were paintings
>zoomers think that real-time combat wasn't invented until the ps2
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>>728898103
It was always fucking trash.
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>>728898583
I liked 15 even if it was heavily flawed. Certainly not my favourite RPG experience ever but it was enjoyable enough.
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X-2 is great tho
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>>728899261
this is why i nope out of rts games or sim games
if you can fastforward and nothing happens then thats a major problem that the game designers need to fix
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>>728899634
>Copies sold: 669.7k
jesus that is dire
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>>728899368
>It almost makes me sad to think about
Imagine where they'd be today if they hadn't wasted all that time and dev power, and instead devoted it to other projects.
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>>728899634
i bet that game has more pirates than buys
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>>728899261
FF12 specifically has a lot of monsters in the wild that are hp sponges and unless you want to use up all your mana setting gambits to auto-cast elemental weaknesses the best option is to hit the fast forward button on combat and set haste and healing gambits.
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>>728897989
poor man's Markiplier
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>>728899634
>23% of Rebirth players are Chinese
>this is the game's larges audience
Suddenly the swarm of low-quality threads and even lower quality discussion this game gets makes way more sense.
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leave it to SE to somhow blunder the most anticipated, safest bet in video game history (a FF7 remake)
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>>728899898
What still kinda baffles me is that this was THE fucking freebie.
You didn't need to really do much of anything to make this the cleanest 20m+ selling home-run it should have been.
No one expected much from XVI, that shit looked like trash from the first trailer, but FF7 was the "win by doing nothing"-button.
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>>728899206
Please understand. Full remake boring. Need to insert fanfics, boring linear walks and generic Yakuza hubs with shit mini games
Please understand. Games take many many many wonderful years of hard working people. Games these days, oof, so much expensive, so many many years to deliver product. The work on dlc to finish product, think of the shareholders, they need their money back.
...
And until then keep waiting for the incoming KH4 in 2030 with more incoming spin-offs and mobile story
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>>728899634
Still on 2m then...
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>>728899457
From 3 to 10, then take look on 12. Og Tactics for playstation and Advance, dunno if the new one is good

If you want specific titles to test waters, 4 is a good starting point, or just try either 5, 6, X or Tactics games
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>>728899206
Only that’s wrong you faggot. Nojima was behind the time jannies and Nomura wanted to make a more faithful remake.
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>>728898819
>Expedition 33 just won every award on the planet and has re-locked itself on Steam's global top seller list for weeks now.
Let's be honest though, will the game actually leave a lasting impression when the goty fever fades?
I mean, it potentially winning was the only thing that drive discussion for months.
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>>728897989
why are you niggas so obsessed with FF
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>>728897989
Sebbywebz is a fucking secondary casual masquerading as an expert on JRPGs he's such a fucking loser lmao
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>>728897989
There's more around who did and does what, who stayed and left.
It's quite frustrating really how success doesn't work as the costumer intends, but the way businesses want it to.
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>>728900751
What do you mean "lasting impression"? It's a single-player game that has been talked about to death for last 8 months over what must be tens of thousands of threads at this point.
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>>728900895
Final Fantasy 7 R still has dozens of threads a day.
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>>728900895
Are you being stupid on purpose?
The only thing that drove those was goty and the porn.
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>>728900779
if youre a 30 something nerd you have great respect for what FF used to represent
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>>728901007
Yeah but those threads are obviously made for and by advertisers that do nothing but post coomer bait to desperately try to keep that shit from being memoryholled harder than it already is.
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>>728901007
the porn threads?
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>>728897989
>holy fucking shit is that man talking to camera?
>wow epic everything he says must be true
What a gay world we live in.
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>>728901012
Have you not been on this board for the past 8 months? Literally every aspect of the combat, the characters, the endings, the world, the plot, the story, the music, the themes, the women, the exploration have been talked about hundreds (if not thousands) of times and from hundreds of thousands of perspectives at this point.
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>>728897989
i am 40 and i have never played a single ff game
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>>728901247

No it's mostly that 99% of the words he's saying are correct.
Not 100%, he has some weird ideas about a "pre-rendered background is", but 99%.
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>>728901405
turn-based combat had nothing to do with technical limitations. that's fucking retarded, do you think that every video game was turn-based and nobody could figure out how to make a character attack in real time?
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>>728901405
>*what a "pre-rendered background" is

I'm going to bed.
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Rare when I see some zoomer gay retard influencer who I've never heard of say nothing I disagree with (although it's an edited down webm)...
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How long is this meme going to last where we pretend FF combat from XII and onwards isn't way better than the classic games (except for the ones that have job systems)?
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>>728901506
NTA but party based combat still, STILL, to this day, isn't "solved" without having it be turn-based. As long as the player can only control one character at a time in real-time the other characters are going to be left to the CPU to find a use for. And that usage is most of the time completely retarded at worst and sub-optimal at best.
The solution to this is to let the player control all the characters in the party, but that can only happen if they control one character at a time.
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>>728901664
It's probably going to persist until it stops being true, so forever.
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>>728899206
>still remember the E3
>how the presentation went from chibi FF to the HD trailer
>every new piece of info afterward just showed that it won't be what everyone wanted
Talk about a fucking monkey paw.
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>>728901780
I just played Final Fantasy IX and dropped it at the start of disc 3 because the combat was so boring and slow.
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While your concern is admirable, we're fine here.
Tell the French to call us if they ever make anything of value.
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>>728902104
Sounds like a skill issue.
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>>728900895
>What do you mean "lasting impression"?
the fuck kind of a question is that
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>>728902109
>Shipped
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>>728901308
>Literally every aspect of the combat, the characters, the endings, the world, the plot, the story, the music, the themes, the women
Rarely came up in a conversation here in the past 8 months. It was all about it potentially winning or the porn.
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>>728902109
>"I-if we count all the shipped units that are never leaving the bargain bins, and all the copies that came with bundles, and all the purchases across every version, and the DLC, over the last 5 years, we get a number that is almost half the sales of the original game released in the 90s, despite their being way more gamers now and way more platforms to release on!"
What a strange company this is.
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>>728902627
I'm sorry you missed out. Welcome to 4chan, this is /v/, a board where some of us try to discuss video games.
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>>728897989
>hating on XII combat
NGMI. XII was the best possible evolution of classic FF combat systems - much faster at trash fights without sacrificing any tactical depth on bosses and still allowing you to control the party with gambits, but retards like the OP couldn't deal with not having to select "attack" from a menu 10000 times.
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>>728900895
It won't be talked about in 30 years like the Matrix.
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Why is nobody hating the lame ass mmo?
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>>728898296
>Remake
>Rebirth
What's the fucking difference?
Please don't tell me that Rebirth is a remake of Remake.
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>>728904786
They remade 7 into a trilogy with remake being part 1 covering Midgar and ONLY Midgar with Rebirth covering everything up to Aerith getting ganked and part 3 not being out yet.
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>>728897989
E33 is worse than littersly every golden age jrpg, its kind of crazy.
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>>728904859
but why
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>>728905001
That's a good question
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>>728897989
Rebirth is a great game with fun combat and entertaining character moments
E33 is boring slop for reddit trannies
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>zoomer experts have concluded Final Fantaxy X is the last good Final Fantasy, marking the end of Square's golden age
V I C T O R Y !
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>>728897989
That's common sense. J-action games are not JRPGs. Modern FF, Xenoblade, Tales of, etc are all J-action garbage.

A modern JRPG would be DQXI or Atlus slop.
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>>728905568
I mean, 11 was an MMO, 12 was a single player MMO, let's not talk about 13 and its many versions with FlatAss McProtag being forced and unwated, 14 was somehow worse than 11 and 15 was homosexuals in a car.
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I will say as a guy who doesn't really like rpgs (don't hate em, just not for me), but plays lots of action games, making them all into mediocre action games doesn't make me go for them. I'm not suddenly getting into them because they're poorly copying games I do like. I already have those, I'm good. You can't expand your market by watering down your material like that. I'd be more likely to play a really really good jrpg even if it's not normally to my taste than I would a middling real time battle combat action rpg.
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For me it's ninomae ina'nis
Concert news soon...
https://www.youtube.com/live/-EvWIeoQALo?si=IHOb54K_Bdawxdb5
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>>728897989
Enjoy your westoid turn-based fake JRPG clones flooding the market in a few years I guess.
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>>728898296
>FF7 techdemo for ps3
>everyone screaming for joy at the possibility of a FF7 remake
>ps3 comes and goes
>ps4 on last legs
>release a remake of the first couple of hours of disc 1
>but add a bunch of bullshit nobody wanted
>sales plummet after everyone got burnt by the first part
Choke on my cock forever, Nomura. From whenever you started wiping your ass with FF, until the world is finally rid of you.
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>>728898103
The only good Final Fantasy game is the first one, all the others are dogshit.
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>>728898296
so this confirms 13 killed final fantasy? everyone was excited for it and bought it week 1, then nobody ever came back for 15
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>>728897989
The Enix acquisition killed square
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>>728898296
>that drop from 13 to 15
KWAB
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>>728897989
Why does this zoomer looks like he's in his 30s?
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>>728897989
stop shilling your garbage you grifting retard.
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>>728905001
Money.
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>>728899634
>Lmao but FF7 Rebirth is an economic disaster.
Made it's budget back on merch alone.
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>>728898103
>It's gray pop-culture slop that's artificially hyped
It isn't artificial. People still want FF to be good.
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>>728898375
They couldn't evolve past the PS1. FFX is fine but still a massive drop.
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>>728903039
Unfortunately E33 isn't one of those games.
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>>728900882
Somehow, the FF8 branch is the one that fucked up the less. FF13 was the worst mainline game that the produced.
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>>728907581
>People still want FF to be good.
It was never good, you faggot.
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>>728897989
buy an ad
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>>728897989
>SE has visible, obvious, undeniable proof that people still love and buy turn-based games thanks to the release of DQXI
>almost 10 years later and they still have not even tried making a turn-based FF
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>>728898479
I did
played it for a few hours then got refunded, couldn't care about the time jannies and the shitty combat system, I just wanted the same game but with better graphics
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>>728907810
fuck off zoomer
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>>728897989
He isnt saying anything new and FF7 remake fixed all the complains he rambles on and is the best combat system in FF maybe even all jrpgs, making everything he says kinda pointless and redundant
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>>728908194
>FF7 remake fixed all the complains
ok saar
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>>728902109
Only 7m... after all this shilling?
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>>728897989
>hand-drawn backgrounds.
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>>728899313
>fire an artist who clearly was too high on his own copium and ate a nice humble pie
>promote CEO niggas who are unironic crypto bros
Gee I wonder how?
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STOP MAKING FUN OF FINAL FANTASY
THE NEW GAMES ARE VALID AND LOOK AMAZING
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>>728908194
>fixed all the complains
>t.
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>>728897989
Zoomers are fucking retarded. It shouldn't need to be said.
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>>728898446
I'm still in awe that after all those failures they brought in Sweet Baby Inc as consultants and let them infect their games including their only steady cash cow FFXIV.
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>>728906647
Yes. Despite XII being real time it didn't kill interest in the franchise like XIII did.
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>zoomers are
saaaaarr do the needful sarrrrr
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>>728907775
it is if you don't just come here to spam softcore nintendo fanart porn
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>>728909357
>zoomers
Saaaarrr do not redeeem saaarr
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>>728902380
>and sold
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>>728909357
Søylennials aren't invited to present opinions when you're the ones who lead this industry to where it is now in the first place.
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>>728900798
He's right about everything though. FFX was the last game that truly had an impact. Yuna is still the most beloved character in the franchise to this day in Japan. XII, XIII, XV and XVI really failed to leave a mark. Can't comment on XI or XIV as I don't play MMO slop but the fanbase seem like a bunch of trannies.
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>>728909491
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>>728909540
Sorry your generation will never accomplish anything of note kiddo.

Better luck next life.
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>>728900798
i'll take the normie opinon over the 40 year old neckbeard who has devolved his taste by playing every single 80 hour long animeslop that comes out
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>>728909569
And yours will go down next to the boomers as a destructive generation who others would otherwise prefer to forget.
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>>728905001
Money. But if you want to be less cynical about it. They wanted to recreate the full experience og ffvii offered. That being a full explorable world with regions, towns and vehicles in a realistic scale, modern graphics and all that. Attempting to do that in a single entry will condemn the game to suffer the same fate XV had, and they’ll probably will have to cut a lot of shit in order to finish it. The team in charge didn’t want to cut anything, so their best solution was to divide the game in either two or three parts, deciding to do a trilogy, each game with a bigger scope and taking advantage of the work made on previous parts. Part 1, remake was the linear one, part 2 being the semi open but still having a linear path one, and part 3 is expected to be the one that is going to be completely open world and the one that will have a functioning airship like the ps1 games.
The whole trilogy shtick is annoying and not ideal, but I kind of understand why they did it that way. I hope they use everything they learned from the trilogy and apply that into a new entry. If not it was just a complete waste of time.
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Yeah

I think it was a misstep going away from turn based

You had more time to relax and enjoy the story

Rather than spamming attacks and dodges like a caffeinated zoomer
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>>728898819
E33 is kinda slop

you can watch a gameplay vid 1 hour in and 8 hours in and it looks exactly the same. It even looks like elden ring or something
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>>728909839
Browny.
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>>728909839
Fromsoftware has the best art direction of japanese games because they just copied european dark fantasy
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If only xiv's 4.4-5.3 storyline could have been a mainline title instead of being trapped in a shitty mmo
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Going back to turn based won’t mean anything if the stories and characters are going to be fucking shit.
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>>728907961
they made fantasian and none of you retarded grifters bought it.
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>>728910146
That just means Sandfall games and obscure furry jrpg's no one has played will be the only worthwile things in the genre.
I am fine with that
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>>728899724
Kek
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>>728905568
>betta ded than al-bhed bruddas
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>>728903980
The people who play the MMOs and the people who play the other FF games are have very little overlap.
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>>728897989
Zoomers are fucking morons who have no point of reference because they grew up doing stupid shit on tgeir phones. They only parrot whatever their hype streamer (also a terminally online moron) tells them.
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>>728909717
>linear
My dude, a world map does not an open world make, and the scale of the world is aggressively inconsistent for how far you have to travel in the world map to how big the locations you could explore. Rebirth trying to fully realize that world map into an "open world" is why I feel it's just too damn big and could have cut some fluff to not make it feel too padded. I loved playing through Rebirth, but holy fuck does grinding AP is still a boring nightmare that's even less engaging than Remake's AP grind.
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>>728910890
scary
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>>728910230
>THEY MADE [low effort mobile tier slop] AND YOU DIDN'T BUY IT!
Maybe actually give it a budget and not outsource it to china tier devs next time?
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>>728910942
I get it. Maybe linear war the wrong word to describe the game, my bad. What I meant is that even if the zones are open, you are still going from point A to point B until you get the tiny bronco, with allows you to explore the map a little bit more freely. Now, the size inconsistency. Yeah it is inconsistent scale wise, but I guess it had to be that way for gameplay reasons, since you are walking most of the time. Something that do worries me is the size of part 3, as you mentioned, Rebirth already feels too big for its own good, but I attribute that feeling due to the lack of actual exploration, and the Ubisoft like list of shit to do. Let’s see how they improve upon that, since they shown interest in doing so more often than not. Gameplay wise at least.
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>>728910230
Perhaps they should have made a better game.
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>>728907176
The only fall that almost rivals it is proportionally the fall from Remake to Rebirth. They lost a LOT of fans when people realized it wasn't actually a remake.
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>>728897989
>nu sqenix are retarded
humans need to breathe oxygen, water is wet, etc.
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>>728911298
>Maybe actually give it a budget
why would they do that? Excerment 33 was only made on 10 million dollars and you retards want SE to make an AAA turd based game for no reason.
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>>728910230
SE didn't make the game, Sakaguchi's team did, so if no one was interested in Sakaguchi's idea of a modern turn-based game, what makes people think they'd be interested in a turn-based game that appeals to far more people. Hell Xenoblade Chronicles 2 has what, only gotten to 3 million by now as the only numbers I'm finding are from 2022 at 2.7, so giving it 3 extra years and 3 releasing, it only hit 3 million after 8 years.
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>>728911808
There is 5 million reasons, so far.
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Is this the gayest game ever made?
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>>728897989
>any time I see someone streaming FFXII

What the fuck do you have to say about FFXII

>the play at 4x speed

Okay this is completely true.
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>>728909559
>>728909610
>t. Sebbywebz paypigs
lmao
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>>728911995
>the most astroturfed game of the year only sold 5 million at $40. Square couldn't give less of a shit. They want elden ring numbers.
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>>728902109
>>728911398
League of Legends clears both combined btw, no one wants your movie games anymore unc
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FFtroons do be seething in this ITT
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>>728898375
They couldn't keep evolving because JRPGs were in their golden age. Many of the design decisions that occured due to the weaker hardware actually played in favor of the genre.
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>>728912839
spend 2 more years lurking and learning how to properly using greentext and then try to post again, thank you
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>>728910230
Because I'm fucking broke
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picrel is so fuckin kinoooooo i'm so glad it will never be remade or finished.
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>>728897989
I have anti zoomer fatigue
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>>728900895
e33 will never have the same impact as look at this fairy
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>>728909948
>copied european dark fantasy
Somebody has to, since westoids hate being white and euopean. kekek
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728913083
i accept your concession gritting shill.
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>>728897989
>Turn based was used to overcome limitations and make the game look good
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>>728899149
I'm convinced this guy single handedly posts all the contrarian posts in FF7R threads.
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>>728912030
GAY KINO
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>>728913612
>It was simply impossible to make real time graphics look that good back in the day.
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>>728897989
>Anytime I see someone streaming FFXII, they're playing it in 4x speed
Hate screamers but goddamn he nail XIIfags.

>>728905001
>but why
Money, Square mentioned once that stretching these games out and making these multi media projects is the only way they can stay afloat. FFXIII, Kingdom Hearts, FFVII Re:Make, FFXV, the original FFXIII project a.ka. the Fabula Nova Crystallis project.
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>>728913795
>You just had to do turned based if you wanted the game to look good
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>>728913958
>screamers
streamers*
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just so you know, an fyi as the people 20 years ago would say, FFXIII battle system was kino
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>>728900509
grok is this true?
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>>728907961
Isn't that what Bravely Default is? Also, BD3 when?
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I’m scared for the inevitable FFX Remake
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>>728910230
I bought it. even had to get a stupid fucking apple device for it
it kinda sucks desu
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>>728897989
Huh. He gets it.
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>>728915973
Oh its happening

>Open world
>Quest markers
>Anti-soul gas
>Lulu in a hajib
>Stats reduced to just Attack, Magic, and HP
>Stagger system
>FFX Remake part 1
>Dubstep remixes of the soundtrack
>New characters not from the original game that are for some reason important
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>>728899457
I'm a zoomer who just played OG ff7 and ff tactics the ivalice chronicles for the first time, ff7 is like an 8/10 amazing game and ff tactics is a 10/10 it's a must play
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>>728913083
I don't know, since nothing he said was actually correct, including the price of the game (it's average is 50 bucks on PC and 60 on console, physical) and that Square Enix absolutely care to the point where they're on their knees sucking Sandfall off in person (pic related). Combined with use of meaningless unprovable buzzwords I don't really think slightly improved formatting or lurking would really improve his posts.
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>728912030
Not even as gay as the "competition".
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>>728897989

I'll give this webm an 8/10, his points are mostly correct and his reflections are pretty spot-on. I think he just misspoke and said "hand-drawn backgrounds", when he clearly means "pre-rendered backgrounds", but I dock him 2 points for it.
Far from the most retarded zoomer I've seen.
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>>728897989
Lmao this guy loves an AI generated game.
But he's right about FF.
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>>728901723
I mean technically you could play the combat in real time like Warcraft 3 with the ability to group select as well as individually select to cast spells and abilities, but yeah I'm aware WC3 only has 4 spells per character + 6 items. The middle ground is somewhere between this and FF7R combat
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>>728910265
>>728917472
Rtwp solvedn this more than 25 years ago
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>>728910146
I liked the characters in E33, but the twist was bad and one character being a creator god for their world just destroys all character agency and all emotional investment into the story.

E33 is carried by its polish, gameplay, and characters.
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>>728917472
Even that's stretching it. Most WC3 was played with 1-3 Heroes, who were the item-holders, most of those items were passive gear, and as far as I remember not a single Hero had 4 actively used abilities? Some where passive auras and some were auto-fired IIRC. And even then you have to get pretty micro heavy to make sure everything is going off at the right time. Although a Final Fantasy RTS would be a massive leap forward compared to the shite we have now.
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>>728917684

So turn-based then.
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>>728897989
>Zoomers
How old is he?
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>>728913263
true
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>>728897989
>Zoomers
This dude’s 40 and has an audience of 500 other 40 year olds
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>>728897989
>sebby
>zoomer
mfer was born in the 80s lmao
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>>728897989
>>728898296
if only they didn't pozz 16 and ff7
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Why can't there be a single reaction based JRPG?
Don't worry your animeshit won't copy it, why would they put in the extra effort into telegraphing the enemy attacks when they can just recycle the same particle effect animeslop over and over again
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>>728917923
We don't call it that.
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>>728918238
>Why can't there be a single reaction based JRPG?
I heard that the French, of all people, newly released a game that might just be what you're looking for. You might even have heard of it!
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>>728917467
absolutely buckbroken, lmao.
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>>728918238
>Why can't there be a single reaction based JRPG?
Legend of Dragoon
Expedition 33
Lost Odyssey
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>>728897989
TRVKE

Whose fucking stupid idea was it to leave the attack/skill/item/run formula? They ashould have made what dragon quest did and leave it as the unbroken line main niche while having any DQ games with different gameplay as a side thing.

For example FF16 should have been turn based and then make a side game that is a movie/action-game, I believe both would have been more popular games that now where the main game is a movie/action-game following 4 games(ff online doesnt count its probably done right idk) that have diverged from the original gameplay style.
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>>728919671
Yeah, the core line should have been consistent and if they really wanted to experinent that should have been the spinoffs.
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>>728913612
>>728913795
fightans have just 2 high quality models on screen at all times and racing games is cheating
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>>728898296
The goodwill FF had up until FF13 really was insane. They truly were at the top of their hill
And then they burnt their fans, and have done nothing to try and make amends since, only burning those fans further.

Fucking insane.
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>>728897989
>zoomers
He looks 27
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>>728897989
>zoomer
Retard you’re 40. Game design changed, SE changed, you’re not getting this era back move the fuck on already.
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>>728898039
Hey, zoomie, I've got something new for ya, you want to know what it is?
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>>728919671
Here's a real trvke: the reason why you all embraced E33's turn based gameplay was because FF took it away. Absence makes the heart grow fonder. If FF never sacrificed turn based games, you would have eventually gotten bored of it, and E33 would have never even been made.
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>>728898819
>Expedition 33 just won every award
>5 out of 5 stars!
>journalists love this game!
>buy one get 10!
>it's on every game website!
>gaymurs love it!
>ive been jacking off non stop to the title screen sinces it dropped!
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>>728897989
FFXII original release didn't had a speed up button
Was probably implemented later because the developers didn't foreshadow the player's attention span dropping so fast from X to XII (5 years)
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>>728898819
>every award on the planet is just geoff's dorito commercial
why do you faggots pretend to care about industry journos all of the sudden.
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FF7 Remake is for zoomer women
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>>728920808
>>Expedition 33 just won every award
>>5 out of 5 stars!
>>journalists love this game!
>>buy one get 10!
>>it's on every game website!
>>gaymurs love it!
>>ive been jacking off non stop to the title screen sinces it dropped!
this but unironically
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>>728898819
>Expedition 33 just won every award on the planet and has re-locked itself on Steam's global top seller list for weeks now
It's a great game, but lets not pretend it's going to have the same cultural impact as past games have.



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