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It's me, the best WRPG.
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>>728915693
Hey, nice to see ya. Hope you've been well.
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>>728915693
Miss me with that unc shit
Baldurs gate 2 Enhanced edition was better
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>>728915906
Faggot
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>>728915693
It's me, that dating simulator you loved when you were a sexually frustrated 15-year-old. Unless you were a girl or a fag and you only had that one crappy romance option.
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>>728916489
BG2 unironically has very little dating sim stuff, the romances all each have like 3-4 conversations over the course of 40 hours.
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>>728916520
You can permanently lose party members as a result of your dating decisions, so I'd say it's a fairly important part of the game.
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>>728915693
20 years ago I agreed but I tried replaying it last Christmas break and had to drop it after maybe 30 hours invested. So much tedium (whoops you killed the enemies but one of your guys was confused and killed your main and now you lose; whoops you hit a trap and it's faster for you to just reload; etc) and the actual combat/gameplay isn't fun enough to keep me going.
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BG1 is better. Especially the Tutu mod, but even the original TosC.
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>Doesn't date dwarves
>Doesn't date half-orcs
Can there even be any based goody-two-shoes racists that are not Aerie out there? I'm guessing not.
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>>728916769
He's right, BG1 is tighter and the NPC's are less obnoxious
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That emotional feeling when you have played it a bunch of times and you can't enjoy it any more.

>>728916648
The main source of tedium in BG2 is the fact that every single combat encounter involves mid to high level spells and effects with higher level creatures that have immunities and shit. It involves a high amount of micromanagement that quickly gets tedious. It's not on the level of the Pathfinder games but it's still a lot to manage. One other thing is that the combat music gets old very quickly although you can just mod that.
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>>728916819
gayming in 2025
>dialog and lore
ITS WAS ALWAYS ABOUT POWER
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>>728916769
>cant travel the map except to a few locations you have to hear about from an npc first, hope you didn't like freeform exploration
>need some random faggot wizard ro unlock your TRUE POTENTIAL for no reason
>imoen was a bhaalspawn all along

It's dogshit.
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I was clearing out an old storage unit of mine and found the 12 different BG2 disks I had to buy over the years because disc 2 was made out of paper
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>>728916841
>It involves a high amount of micromanagement that quickly gets tedious
oh no, if only they gave instant world freeze mechanics locked to space bar
spoiled brats
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>>728915693
infinity engine games are great and writingwise, bg2 is a great game and i love the game but personally i preferred icewind dale.
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>>728916810
>will cuck you with a tiefling though
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>>728916918
Why you little... Yes I know about the PAUSE MECHANIC... Everything I said still applies.
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>>728916985
I got burned out on IWD right near the end and never finished it. Managing the gargantuan mob hordes got so tedious.

The streamer Davaeorn was just did a playthrough of modded IWD:EE that looked awesome. Wish I could've gotten the modlist.
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>>728916987
That's only if you act like a Whi- I mean, Lawful Good person, and don't pick the obvious chimpout dialogue choice that will turn her off.
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>>728915693
I started playing the black pits and I'm having a good time. Seems to work fine with SCS so I had to run around the arena beating on the enemy caster until he went down which is why I'm not guilty over having an inquisitor in my party I'm not proud
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>>728916993
I swear we are moving to timeline where
>man its tedium to press all of this controler buttons
actually we are there
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>>728917250
You're a pretentious retard.
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>>728917072
i can kind of understand getting burned out by icewind dale but also kind of can't. it is just constant dungeon crawls with constant encounters and that can get old pretty fast but it also has nothing else to burn you down except the tedium of playing dnd dungeon crawls from that edition
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>>728917491
I think for me the problem was that the entire game is moving towards the main quest. There's no diversion. By the time I quit I was pretty disinterested in what was even going on, and there's nothing else to do. No side ares or side quests, no party members. Just a straight shot through the MQ.
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>>728917193
>I started playing the black pits
kys, troon
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>>728917715
It's better in multiplayer, where you get your party banter and diversions from a real person.
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>>728917834
Y-yeah...
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>>728917715
true. there is no freedom. it is just a linear line of dungeon crawls. that is the main selling point of the game, being just focused on long, well designed and kind of hard dungeon crawls. that is of course its main weakness as well.
no freedom to do sidequests, to wander around doing shit and gain better gear.
it is just going towards the next dungeon crawl. it's the sort of thing where "if you like 2nd ed you will like this" but "if you want a good DM and interesting dialogue you play BG2"
if you want to make powerful metabuild and want a gygaxian dungeon, you play iwd. if you want an rpg experience that you can play and then move on, play bg2
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>>728918284
I agree with you except BG1 is better in literally every way. Freer exploration for better emergent gameplay and more side quests.
God I hate BG2.
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>>728915693
Yeah, it's the best. It has a bunch of flaws, but the overall production quality, interesting combat (despite various problems), fun NPCs, kino exploration in act 2/3 in particular, also pretty good mod scene... it's unmatched.
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>>728918403
>comparing bg1 to iwd
why?
even if you hate bg2 there is little reason to compare icewind dale to bg1
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>>728916874
You can freely explore all the city areas which contain a shitload of content. I agree BG1 explorable wilderness is great and BG2 would be even better if it had that, but the city areas in BG2 are very good.
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>>728918753
What? I meant I agree with you except I'd replace BG2 with BG1 for all your points.
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thank you my sweet sweet Aerie for tasking my virginity so gently
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>>728918403
>freer exploration for better emergent gameplay
It's just a lot of empty wilderness and monsters though not particularly enthralling stuff
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>>728916735
BG1 felt like a true adventure
Bg2 is the railroad hunt for Irenicus, though it was still enjoyable
I really enjoyed the more fleshed out interparty dialogue+romance in 2, even if it meant less recruitable companions
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>>728919729
The romance panders too much to the player. It seems like Khalid is killed off just to make Jaheira available for romancing. She gets over his death in five minutes and is immediately looking for a new cock, specifically yours.
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>>728915693
hello king
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>>728917143
if you don't chimp out she leaves you for him. so its lose/lose
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I can dance on the head of a pin as well

HIYA, hehe, the tourists love that stuff
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>>728920020
but he's the tourist..
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>>728915693
>WRPG
no intelligent posts has ever been made with this acronym. the term itself is derogatory, suggesting anon has little to no understanding of the medium he spams threads for every single day.
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>>728916520
>3-4
Holy shit go watch a video of the romances, or better yet replay the game
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Imoen romance mod is good, but breaks very easily if you don't take your time with everything
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>>728915693
Baldurs Gate 1 is better.
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>>728915693
no no that is CRAZY TALK
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>>728915693
D&D shovelware will never be good
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>>728915906
>5 billion extra tranny characters
lol
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viconia
korgan
edwin
anomen
aerie
everyone bullying anomen until his incel collapse then he starts bullying aerie
name a more perfect party
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>>728923032
Minsc jaherra imoen keldorn viconia
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>>728923490
but you can't have keldorn and viconia he tries to kill her. did the gay retards at beamdog remove that?
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>>728916520
any is too much
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>>728923032
based korgan kills aerie though
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>>728916735
I prefer Trilogy because of the clean run through all of it.
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>>728924202
If you get them to tob together they don't anymore iirc
just savescum :^)
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>>728924303
I haven't gotten to try that yet. I started a Big World playthrough but never finished it.
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>>728923032
I'm boring, I usually go
>Jaheira
>Keldorn
>Anomen
>Nalia
>Jan
The abomination that is Cleric/Mage scales too slowly for me to like Aerie for gameplay, and if I was going purely for personality I'd have Mazzy instead of her
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>>728915693
more like LRPG
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>BG1
>MC male fighter
>Imoen
>Jaheira
>Kagain
>Kivan
>Xan
somehow Khalid always wants to kill bears on his own

>BG2
>MC male berserker
>Jaheira
>Imoen
>Aerie
>Keldorn
>Korgan
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>>728924841
no way fag, killing aerie is good
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>>728925472
Based Xan appreciator. There are dozens of us!
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>>728915693
BG 2 has an awful story and its rpg mechanics are subpar. At most you could argue it's the best dnd game
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How's your current playthrough going? I just agreed to help the Shadow Thieves so I can find Imoen with my party of LAWFUL GOOD individuals and also my new best trap-detecting buddy Yoshimo!
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>>728926000
>party has zero gnomes
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>>728926000
>dorfless
ishygddt
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>>728915693
I quite like it but I think the game's format is extremely bizarre. All the side content is extremely frontloaded, with the main story being almost entirely linear. It's my second favorite but I think FO1 is my overall favorite
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>>728926460
The entirety of Chapters 3 through 6 cause such irreparable burnout it actively harms the legacy of the game. There isn't a single person alive who fondly looks forward to going to Spellhold.
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>>728926000
>10 INT
>8 DEX
I hope you have a cheese ready for mindflayers, or you're going to have to do a lot of quickloading
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>>728915693
Is there a way to make DnD-style combat not complete fucking ass?
Like I desperately try to get into these games but I just cannot get past the dogshit combat
Pen and paper was never meant to directly translate to a video game
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>>728926582
>casually ignores the 2 clerics that would very obviously have chaotic commands by this point
blessed poster
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>>728926642
But... the combat's good? It being automated by a game engine makes things possible that you would never want to do in pnp, like the enturety of IWD.
Your post is backwards.
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>>728926582
why would you gimp your build for the entire game because of a couple of fights you can bullshit your way through anyway
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>>728926738
Stunned or not, he's not going to dodge very much with that AC
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>>728926642
nigger
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>>728926776
Not a single fucking person over lukewarm IQ thinks that
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>>728926795
>casually ignores sword and shield style's 2 pips and how easy it is to get fortress shield +3
blessed poster
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>>728926836
I cannot even imagine trying to GM a big battle and resolving dozens of mob and player actions every turn, or how long it would take.

Video games is the best thing to happen to DnD. It's just sad there's only a few good ones.
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I prefer my RPGs turn based. If I have to focus on microing everyone I am more inclined to just try and I know that isn't going to be as fun.
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>>728926558
Chapter 2 is such a massive high point in the entire franchise that when people think of BG2 its all they think about. Irenicus is done decently enough to make what follows Chapter 2 bearable but it really cannot be overstated how much better the free form questing is. Athkatla is such a good hub, it makes BG in BG1 look like a shitty dump in comparison. Amn in general is a massive step up from the endless wilderness rectangles of BG1
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>>728926962
try to play solo*
it ate it
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>>728926000
I've been sidetracked from my kensei/mage run thanks to the PoE2 league, made it to BG in BG1 and started to do tales of the sword coast before I cap off the game. My last save is somewhere on werewolf island
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>>728923032
sounds pretty good
I usually take korgan and anomen, they are just fun with nearly anyone else
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>>728926980
I like endless wilderness rectangles. and the lower level makes it more soulful and grounded
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>>728927063
>my kensei/mage run
you didnt/wont beat the game
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Peak soul
https://youtu.be/IlvxKEP38ds?si=XrPiSxlojd6o6NcO
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>>728925636
Xan is fantastic once the specialist saving throw penalties are implemented, either in EE or mods.
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>this guy comes up to you, bites your ankle, and calls ya a little monkey-spanker
what do??
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>>728927248
At this rate I likely won't, not looking like I'll be finishing BG1 any time soon which is kind of a bummer because I won't be swapping to mage until BG2, and I'd like to see how silly stacking wizard defensive spells could get. My first run was a fighter/cleric and stacking buffs in that was quite fun, helps the flail of the ages is like the best weapon to ever grace fiction
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>>728927512
Recruit him. He's a great support character and a cool funny guy.
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>is the most masculine weapon to ever exist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0d4qM7gCH8
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>>728927620
>want to be fighter/mage
>have to play entirety of bg1 as fighter
>the offset of dualclassing, having to start at 'lv1' with the new class, completely offset by scribing scrolls
>read scrolls on amn until youre level 9 and get your fighter skills back
>gg, youre the best class in the game by an order of magnitude and have only had to eacape irenucus' dungeon

I've always been curious about how stupid it must be to be so OP, but it just seems kinda gay. I always roll an elf fighter-mage and it steamrolls the game just fine, and I get to cast in BG1.
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>>728926000
Playing a Blade this time. I like it. Offensive Spin with Longbow plus some spellcasting is really nice in BG1. Currently I'm in the Undercity about to go take out Sarevok. I've done pretty much everything except Aec'Letec.
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>>728928028
Meanwhile, I'm over here wondering what joy their is in using exploits to break the game's system. It's only a few steps away from using Keeper to give yourself unlimited money and set all of your abilities to 25.
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>>728928204
Tjat was onw thing about IWD: no spell vendors. Made Fighter-Mage a lot more balanced.
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>>728927620
The only way Kensai works for me in BG1 is as Throwing Dagger (For Kensai/Thief) or Throwing Axe (For Kensai/Mage). Trying to lean on the shield amulet and do melee just feels bad. And Dagger and Axe are good weapon choices in BG2 for the respective duals. Honestly though, if you want a fighter mage dual just go Berserker. Much nicer BG1. Kensai is best for thief duals or full throwing builds, IMO.
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>>728926000
NO NO DON'T DO IT DON'T TRUST THAT NIP
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>>728928415
Berserker/Mage is so fucking busted. Berserker alone is stupid enough.
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fuck off buildfags
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>Here is that Candlekeep kid I've been telling you about.
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>>728928415
>>728928487
I'll never understand Berserker or Cavalier.
>hey here's all these busted buffs BUT NOW YOU HAVE LIMITED OR CAN'T USE RANGED ATTACKS HAHAHA
and then they let you use Azuredge/Klogarath with no problems. Or, you can just throw on Cheetah Boots and close the gap immediately.
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>>728928358
There are a few but their stocks aren't good. It's also one of the few D&D games where you receive high level spell scrolls that your characters have no realistic chance of reaching the level to learn, so you have to decide when it's worth casting them from scroll.
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>>728928358
>>728928693
I don't mind vendors having fuckin' Limited Wish in stock. What I DO mind is being able to erase spells from the spellbook so you can re-scribe spells and gain XP again. That's some bullshit. But even that is limited by available gold, which becomes moot when using thief potions to just steal everyone's stock.

Man, there's so many exploits in these games... I hate them, but I miss them...
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>>728915693
1 is better
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>>728928095
If you're playing EE, there's a hat in siege of dragonshit you can consolecommand into bg2 that extends your bard song by 2 rounds which makes weaving in attacks between songs much much easier.
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>>728915693
I have never played this game. What are some things you like about it? What aspects do you think make it the best WRPG?
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>>728930424
The scale of it is massive and not a single location is wasted, everything and everyone has its place and purpose.
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>>728915693
Name a more stupid mechanic in video games, i'll wait
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>>728930992
Objective markers.
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>>728922278
>Human
>Male
>Berserker
>Neutral evil
>Dual Wielding
>Long Swords
Yep, it's gaming time.
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King's Quest IV for me
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>>728931152
>long swords
>nothing for axe of the unyielding/crom faeyr/flail of the ages/belm
ishygddt
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>>728931434
Just for roleplaying :)
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>>728931434
>needing to be the sweatiest power gamer in this relatively easy game
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>>728928560
Top keek
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>>728915693
I never played these games before. Is BG1 and 2 with the anti-Beamdog mod good enough?
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>>728933612
>anti-Beamdog mod
qrd?
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>>728916769
the real b8 in this thread is >>728915906
which i thought was too on the nose but apparently it got two people
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I played partly through BG1 years ago, but I have free time now and would like to replay it, and with the same character, complete BG2. Lost the old save, so can't do it with that. Are there any mods that are good for the game? Should I do SoD? These games always struggle with weapon variety, due to the shitty proficiency systems, so which is good for both the games? Planning to play as a human evil fighter (original, I know), with the protagonist being the main tank and possibly dps. I always like having the main character as a tank. Willing to change class, if something is better, but I prefer martials with plate armour, not naked dex cucks.
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>>728915693
I played 1 and liked it decently well. I dropped 2 at like the 30 hour mark. It was mostly combat, and all of those RTWP games have terrible combat.
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>>728933682
As far as I know, its a mod that prevents Beamdog NPCs from spawning.
https://argent77.github.io/A7-NoEENPCs/index.html
I don't know if better mods exists
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I played BG1-2 a few times but only the EE, will play the original versions this time
any mods I should use? what class do I go for? I like my MC being a front fighter
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>>728934141
>Mods
Modding BG is finnicky, don't do it for your first run through. Once you've gone through the game and figured out what you want/don't want, then some of the more popular mods to look for are:
[Enhanced Edition Fixpack]
Baldur's Gate [Enhanced Edition] Trilogy
Unfinished Business
Ascension
[Convenient EE NPCs]
[Improved Archer Kit]
[Rogue Rebalancing]
[Spell Revisions]
[Edwin, Valygar, and Imoen Romance Mods]

Refer to mod hosting sites like Gibberlings Three for explanations of how to install and load mods properly.

>Should I do SoD?
If you use BG Trilogy yes, if you aren't using that mod skip it.

>Proficiencies
Almost every weapon is acceptable, it's just that certain weapon types become magical and readily available sooner than others. Try not to think about that. Even if you aren't proficient, you can still use weapons that aren't class-locked to get through certain enemies with a bit of luck.

>I always like having the main character as a tank
Fighters, paladins, and rangers all make great tanks. Your decision is fine.
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>>728935625
Thanks for the suggestions! I'm not completely new to BG, Steam reads 30 hours in the game, as well as 10 hours in BG2, though I do not remember it at all, except the starting dungeon. BG1 was a more recent, where I remember doing Durlag's Tower and the like. I also did a quick run to Neshkel, which prompted asking this.

One of the bigger annoyances is the slow movement speed for traversing the maps. I guess I'm spoiled by Owlcat's games, but the faster movement speed is really noticeable. Is there a easy solution for that? Googling yields Tweaks anthology and/or upping the framerate, but I'm not sure about them.
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>>728936435
Just do what the rest of us did, mow the lawn with a stealthed character wearing cheetah boots or Clairvoyance+Rest "combo" once Dynaheir/Xan reaches level 7.
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>>728916987
Haer always loses in the love triangle.
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>>728934832
It's good.
>https://github.com/Argent77/A7-DlcMerger
>https://github.com/Sampsca/BGEE-Classic-Movies
>https://github.com/Spellhold-Studios/Nostalgia-Pack
>https://github.com/Argent77/A7-NoEENPCs
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for me its ranger/cleric
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you got an extra I there
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>>728937445
Thanks, I think I might apply the Classic Movies and Nostalgia Pack too
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>>728938246
My current playthrough of Icewind Dale has one and I'm really enjoying it.
The party is loosely based on Order of the Stick due to low creativity at the time of making it. Since that party is a third edition group and Icewind Dale is second edition I had to change a bunch of them in various ways. Belkar got the worst of it because Ranger and Barbarian are both illegal classes for 2e Halfings, Ranger/Barbarian is an illegal multiclass in general and Rangers can't be Chaotic Evil. I ended up deciding on Cleric/ Ranger because his main jokes are that he has no points into his Ranger skills and he likes to kill people.
I also didn't autism their stats any and just went with initial rolls. Fucking Elan (a Blade) rolled a 17 INT score, the highest in the party.
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>>728915693
Where? Is it hiding behind that RTwP trash fire?
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>>728940131
Also, if you don't have any incompatibilities
>https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/83508/mod-classic-bg-ui-v1-6
>https://github.com/dive-bomber/Classic-BG-UI/releases/tag/v.1.61
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>>728930346
Yeah. Bard Hat is on my radar. But I’m planning to use it as a reason to play through SoD for once. I’ve always skipped it before.
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>>728940581
Nice, this one sounds very interesting too. Thank you so much.
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Elminster this, Elminster that, give me a pointy hat and 3000 years and I'll kick his arse
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>>728918284
I think there are a few simple incidental side quests in IWD1, like finding the blacksmith's son, freeing the slaves from the giants in the ice cave, restoring the rooms in the Hand by finding squirrels and fresh water, stopping the guy's wife from being a whore in Lonelywood, getting the ice rose for the guy, and a few other ones. That said, I'm fucking retarded and autistic and just keep playing IWD over and over.
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>>728942064
NTA but I'm gonna recommend the instant trap detection from the improved traps component of this mod collection: https://github.com/BGforgeNet/bg2-tweaks-and-tricks

Having to wait for detect traps to ping once every 6 seconds fucking blows, it turns looking for traps into WAY more of a chore than it should be. Purists can get bent on this one, that shit sucks no matter how you spin it.
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>>728942075
How far from Elminister are we by the end of ToB power wise?
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>>728942697
I haven't played ToB in many years but I distinctly recall the final time you meet Eliminster (on the steps of the Bhaal temple) he flat out says he's no match for you
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>>728942697
>"Ok, I've just about had my FILL of riddle asking, quest assigning, insult throwing, pun hurling, hostage taking, iron mongering, smart arsed fools, freaks, and felons that continually test my will, mettle, strength, intelligence, and most of all, patience! If you've got a straight answer ANYWHERE in that bent little head of yours, I want to hear it pretty damn quick or I'm going to take a large blunt object roughly the size of Elminster AND his hat, and stuff it lengthwise into a crevice of your being so seldom seen that even the denizens of the nine hells themselves wouldn't touch it with a twenty-foot rusty halberd! Have I MADE myself perfectly CLEAR?!"
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>>728915693
Call me a zoomer or whatever but I just can't get into BG1, I like CRPGs but it's just not clicking with me
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>>728943053
BG1 is too specific and it's a miracle BG2 was allowed to be made.
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>>728943118
Would I be missing out of I skipped to 2?
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>>728943226
If you're familiar with the setting of Faerun and the Sword Coast, then no. Otherwise, it's worth trudging through BG1 so you can better appreciate how much went into BG2.
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>>728942697
You meet him early in Throne of Bhaal, and he says you are far beyond his capabilities.You are child of god and literally ascend later assuming you managed to win by far the hardest fight of the game.
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>>728943053
I liked BG1 a lot more when I started thinking of it and playing it like an old school hack-and-slash rather than a CRPG. No pausing is easy to manage since each character has very little to manage at low levels and most of the power is in spamming consumables (mostly wands) and kiting.
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Why didn't Elminster just kill the mindflayers?
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>>728943226
You will not like BG2 if you didn't like BG1's basic gameplay. If you thought its maps were too empty and there weren't any cool quests then you might like it more, but otherwise it's just going to filter you a second time.
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>>728943226
You would be missing the better game.
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>>728916489
>mfw my favorite character was an ugly half-orc with the pig face portrait that is hard coded to get no pussy in the game in exchange for his natural 19 STR and CON
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>>728915693
I don't like Throne of Bhaal. ToB lacks much of the adventuring spirit and feeling of progress as the first two installments because you already start at high level - it's essentially a dungeon crawler battle sim which satisfies only one component of the cRPG experience for me.
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To this day, there's no other CRPG that makes you feel like a god in a way being a mage/sorc does in BG2.
>enter the fight
>all low level enemies instantly die no matter how many of them are there, including all trolls and umber hulks
>wizard starts throwing literal miniature meteors from his pocket
>he's surrounded by several sentient magic swords immune to anything and everything
>notice a pesky rogue going invisible? detect invisiblity and instantly turn him into a wet spot on the ground
>za warudo and stack a ton of high level spells on a priority target, killing it before it understand what hit it
>engage in a complex web of spells and counterspells with enemy mage
>whoops, a meleefag is rushing you? good luck hitting me through all my defensive buffs
>jk lol, it wasn't even me casting all this shit, it was my projection, i'm actually on another end of the screen, ready to do this all over again?
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>>728943462
Or using Web and Stinking Cloud.

>>728943480
Because Ed Greenwood is terrified of nuclear warfare and thinks that if Elminster actually did something it would result in magical catastrophe that would slaughter thousands of innocents. It's better for Elminster to just not get involved and instead keep having crazy amounts of sex.
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>>728943480
they have 90% magic res

they are such a joke in BG3, in BG2 u need a full part of high level characters to fight and its still risky
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>>728942679
Thanks you, initially I'm not interested as I'm not someone who's fond of modding games but if while I'm playing I notice how right you were, I will save it and keep it in mind.
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>>728943806
A gated pit fiend can kill them all. I've done that before when I gave up.
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>>728943226
No, but I remember playing Baldur's Gate 2 back when I was a kid who couldn't finish Baldur's Gate 1 (too difficult), and felt initially overwhelmed by the amount of classes, spells, and the fact that you started at a higher level with a pre-made character. The writing seems to have minimal overlap between 1 and 2 (due to BG2 being mature whereas BG1 seemed more lighthearted and didn't take itself seriously), and you won't fully appreciate the cameo appearances of past BG1 characters that show up in BG2. But if you start with BG2 it shouldn't be a big problem.
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>mfw being cheeky with the spike traps infront of various dangerous enemies that aren't hostile yet
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>>728943713
I feel more godlike playing an Inquisitor and reducing all spellcasters to a thin paste.
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>>728943913
Do you still get exp for killing them?
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>>728927092
>the lower level makes it more soulful and grounded
How fucking braindead do you need to be to hold this opinion?
Low level D&D is roll the dice to see if you win or lose the encounter, barely any tactics or strategy
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>>728943226
Plot wise no. You can easily summarize BG1 in a paragraph. And the character cameos dont really matter since even people who beat BG1 may have missed any given character. BG1 is worth playing, but not for plot or writing, but rather as a party based rpg with open ended world exploration. Which is surprisingly rare.
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>>728944038
Nah, it's a last resort in that respect. Still pretty funny and effortless though.
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>>728944010
>mfw discovering set special snare x3 immediately kills most boss enemies in bg2
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>>728943806
Or a really good backstabber with boots of speed. One of the reasons I love playing Fighter/Thief or Kensai>Thief.
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Reminder you are supposed to play zoomed in so chars are normal size like it was 800x600 not the default zoom out rts style retards at Beamdog set the game on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMXkYtp5TXM
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>>728944464
and then people shit on barrelmancy
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>one of the best party members mechanically
>full to the brim with dumb banter that makes most people around him mad
>suddenly a depressive as fuck quest that cannot be resolved in a way that would give him a happy end, the love of his life just goes back to her abuser
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>>728944668
>lol so randumbXD
He and Minsc both belong in the trash.
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RTwP is so awful. Its the worst of both worlds
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>>728944650
How is this guy seeing the attack calculations?
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>>728944953
combat log, pretty sure its on by default but maybe u need to go into settings to turn them on.
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>>728944661
shut your goofy ass up
dont you have a divinity thread to bitch about lizardfucking and satanism and shit?
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>>728944661
Set Special Snare is limited to one kit of one class, which otherwise is really weak (Single class thief). Spike Traps are a High Level Ability you aren't getting until 3 Million XP. i.e. Throne of Bhaal. But yeah, Spike Traps break the game pretty easily.
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>>728944650
I'll play however I want
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>>728915906
Wut? It is literally the same game, just with extra characters added that nobody cares about. When I replayed BG1 and BG2, I just completely ignored them.
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>>728945035
Thanks. Found it under feedback tab. Never realized here were options there, lol. One of my annoyances solved.
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>>728944778
Reminder that Valygar can get both Jan and Neera to shut the fuck up.
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>>728944650
You choose an appropriate level of zoom to frame the action and/or environment of interest. That shit's on your scrollwheel for a reason.
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>>728945301
Valygar was cool, I wish he wasn't struck with the Bioware curse of being unable to write dialogue for black guys.
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>>728916489
>dating simulator
Not even close. The Aerie romance, for example, is just a few paragraphs of dialogue and it culminates into a special ending in Throne of Bhaal. That is all.
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>>728945818
That's all RPG romance needs to be, honestly.
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I like the classic Fallout games more
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>>728945864
If I don't see full penetration with the sounds of violated Jell-O filling up my room while a mocaped actress does her worst Meg Ryan impression and my FULLY CUSTOM APPEARANCE MAIN CHARACTER'S BALLS aren't swinging right in front of the camera followed by a clear cream pie, can I REALLY saw that I've had an RPG romance experience?



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