Why are pals unable to capture the same relevance as Pokemon or Digimon in terms of designs despite Palworld being the better game?
Shitty designs with no creativity
>>728923470But enough about Pokemon
>>728923380No one outside of a relatively small bubble on the Internet even knows it exists. Pokémon and to a lesser extent Digimon have decades of cultural significance.
>>728923380Palworld needs more varied media like an anime. Also most Pokefaggots have a severe case of sunk cost syndrome which makes them latch on to their IP hard and ignore everything else despite Pokemon being shit.
>>728923380The internet killed monocultures so nothing will ever be as popular as Pokemon ever again.
>>728923380They don’t have a card game, tv show or finished game yet.
>>728924017Except Pokemon don't have finished games either. They have abandoned games but no finished games.
>>728923380They look like shitty bootlegs.
>>728923674It just won an award in Korea.
>>728923814This
>>728924331worst korea? who cares
>>728923380No evolutions, so people can't see their pals 'grow up and get stronger' with the player.
I recognize more pals than I do gen 8 or 9 pokemon and I don't play either game
>>728924427Only low IQ retards care about evolutions
>>728923380because the designs are shitty legally distinct expys. and capturing human units isn't even new, you can do that in disgaea by throwing the enemy unit into the base panel. hybrid designs isn't even new, those exist in jade cocoon and others.
>>728924429This. Pals have more charm than what passes for Pokemon these days.
>>728923380they're just supposed to be parodies of existing pokemon. also lovander a SHIT
>>728923380I mean, fucking look at them. The sheep is okay but you'd easily mistake it for the existing sheep Pokemon from a distance.
>>728923380There's no show for it marketed towards children to sell merch
>>728924427They have a few pals that are essentially an evolution of an existing pal. But there's no evolutions outright you're right. Maybe they thought that was flying too close to the sun.
Ninbros...
If Pals were Pokemon they would be glazed endlessly as an impeccable return to early gen designs by the same people who hate them.
>>728923380because Pals don't have purpose beyond autominers. Even right now, the meta is still just 4 gunshark things and imposter salamence because you don't actually use pals to attack, you just buff your guns.It also doesn't help that some pals are just entirely outclassed by others. You might even get a superior pal without ever seeing its lower tier version. You never have that moment of being chased down by Spearows in a forest while your health is low
>>728923380Every single monster game i ever seen has shit designs. Only pokemon has ever done a good job at it. Literally everything else, from Indie games to Digimon have shit designs.Idk how its this difficult to make decent to make half way decent monster designs that don't look like shitty bootleg pokemon.
>>728923380I want to protect these little critters.
>>728927358 ...they're not coming back, are they? We clowned on Palworld, but deep down we knew. We saw Game Freak release another borderline mobile-tier patch of recycled mechanics and framey trees, and we stayed loyal. For what? To watch a bootleg with guns and pokè-slavery outcharm and outperform our childhood?Ninbros... we were the ones in the ball.
As someone who hasn’t played Palworld the Pals who I’d say are “iconic” are>Yellow Totoro>Pink furry bait lizard>That blue sad cat>The cloud Loli (this one because you fags wouldn’t stop spamming it)>The blue ferret>The witch hat one>The goofy dinosaur
>>728923380In large part because Palworld is an unfinished, Early Access game. And also. The multiplayer focused Rust like gameplay is just a lot more niche compared to the turnbased RPG that Pokemon games, even if both Pokemon and Palworld do the monster raising thing. The pal designs are fine. If the core game had more appeal, and was actually a complete product, the pal designs themselves would be considerably bigger too.
>>728923380They lost me at butchering mechanics.
>>728930043>be me>never research any butcher turn>be happySimple as
>>728928860>>728930043Dazzi deserved so much more. Fuck the devs for completely ignoring her in favor of endlessly shilling the same five Pals like Depresso and Chillet.
>>728923380Because they haven't been out for 20 years and don't have a billion dollar corporation behind them?
>>728923470FpbpSay what you will about Pokemon but they at least have a consistent theme of what they're going for with each monPalworld just doesn't give a shit
>>728930043The devs sort of left the whole edgy "pals are meat" vibe behind.Pal used to be tongue in cheek, now it's more literal.Pals are friends.And I'm fine with that.
>>728923380many of them are too simplistic. pokemon got away with that shit because the series started with pixel art.its really weird seeing the well designed pals next to shit like relaxaurus
>>728927517I want to overwork those little critters to death.
>>728930438>items mons, reference mons and modern mega designs?Maybe from 12 years ago but now the designs are dogshit besides a handpick of a few good ones
>>728923674>ip's that had huge funding from big studios and was around the era were cable and merchandise was in its big era Hmmmmm i wonder why?
>>728930828not to double post but even monsuno got relevance because they were merchandising and commercializing it through tv that's how most kid ip's became relevant its funny how people think palworld is instantly going to get that when they aren't even in that era and im not even hating on the game, and i don't even like that much its more of a hate, love relationship with the game
>>728923380The actual answer is that Japan is full of corporate drones who take personal offense that someone dares ripping off their favorite IP, and that they do everything in their power to ensure Palworld gets as little spotlight as possible.
>>728923380they are more popular than digimon
>>728927502How fucking braindead do you have to be to actually believe this christ Pokefags really are cultists
>>728923380it's just one game that came out a short time ago, meanwhile pokemon and digimon are decades old by nowimo if palworld didn't exist and all pals were actually for a pokemon gen it would be one of the better gens designs-wise, i really like them overall
>>728930712I want to cum over those little critters to death.
>>728923380cuz it runs like shit is not optimized at all with mom's spaghetti codeim on 750 ti and yes it's cheap and old but you know what the game looks like it should run on it with no problems, i know my graphical limits that game doesn't look like it passes that limit
>>7289320236 hour breeding session with this deer
>>728932321was this launch palworld or modern palworld cause i did not get that problem it's probably a setting issue for you
>>728923380>captureBecause Nintendo holds all the relevant patents.>>728923470In all seriousness, wasn't there some doc where the concept artist was told to specifically ape of Pokemon's designs?
>>728923594SPBP
>>728932515>In all seriousness, wasn't there some doc where the concept artist was told to specifically ape of Pokemon's designs?yes but its not really confirmed if the person actually worked for palworld at all also it went dark on that case so we probably might not ever hear from that in a long time so i wouldn't really believe it until we see actual receipts also the person quotes in one of her tweets that she never worked for palworld so there's that
>>728931708name 1 monster game with good designs
>>728923380>Palword will be 2 years old soonFeel old yet?>>728923470Can’t wait to see how horrible the Gen 10 Pokémon look>>728923594>Lamer LamballSpbp
>>728923380early pokemon designs were based on real stuff, and they had the anime and other shit to help give personality to each mon and the world. Palworld is just different pokemon mashed together in some early access survival crafting slop
>>728932692Palworld
>>728923814Yeah, Pokémon could do the dumbest shit and still get away with it thanks to amassing all that goodwill since the 90s and never having a Sonic 06 moment.>>728924017Also this, Palword needs to truly release and then branch out more
>>728926570Yes!
>>728932692palworld
>>728927502Are you forgetting Pokémon’s inspiration from Dragon Quest anon?
>>728932865looks shitty>>728933025>eevee ripoff
>>728932509this was v0.4.14should probably the later versions but i don't think they did anything about that spaghetti code
>>728930043What if they win the case and it gets closed will they bring back those mechanics or are they gone for good?
>>728933315they did mention straightening out the spaghetti code in their announcement for 1.0 which is good so i would probably wait for that since we are that close to that
>>728932865>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagina_dentata
>>728933252>looks shittyimage related>eevee ripofftrue i agree with that
>>728927489You don't play the game. lmao
>>728923380>Why are pals unable to capture the same relevance as Pokemon or Digimon in terms of designs
>>728933461mb i meant to send this but the point still stands so how is modern pokemon designs supposably better when all they can think for their mega design is just making bigger or giving it an extra tail or just flat out changing the color palette to the worst one ever
>>728933501Either that or the last time he played was when it first released.
>>728923470This.
>>728933669tinkaton is okay but the other two are just pure dog shit not even the most autistic person can say otherwise
>>728923380No inertia with the young kids and the older paypigs
>>728933669>>728933693Fakemon
You will never be able to recreate the Pokemania by just copying the artstyle and making not-Pokemon version of ARK survival.
>>728923380pokemon is the king of nostalgia autism
>>728933693looks great
>>728933747why are you saying this as if modern pokemon designs aren't just this, hell they couldn't even come up with an actual design for mega dragonite and excusing it as a way to avoid fan designs when they know damn well no one would care besides the artist on twitter but honestly who fucking care about twitter artist that rant 24/7 if they truly had creativity they would get risky and try their best not to just resort to referencemon'ing
>>728933906of course, you would say this when all you care for this design is the porn that's all anyone cared for this pokemon besides being an industry plant and trying to be a 3rd lucario
>>728933981>porni don't carethe porn is shit because it all goes off model
>>728932121Dang I wish that was me
>why are cheap chinese ripoffs worse than soulful pokemansgee i dunno chief
>>728934023This nigga gets it.
>>728933695More like just watched a YouTube video and uses it as his gotcha ever since, because that was the retarded clickbait spammed at the time to drive up engagement via pushing obvious misinformation as the common narrative so their brainless white knighting viewers will keep clashing with the people actually playing and understanding the game.The moves that were doing super high damage were just patched since and they added new ones. Only real ones remember Robinquill Vietnam.
>>728934023then why do you like it when essentially, it's a color palette swap zecorora with more spikes added to it and the animation doesn't really save it that much considering how shit its design isand im not even hating you everyone is entitled to what they like but you can't lie and say they tried with this one
>>728934152megas are simpleyou'd have an argument if you used brand new pokemon instead
>>728934301>megas are simpleare you fucking retarded? even lucario looks different than mega zecorora and even though i still think its meh skarmory did a better job.if all the mons did this i wouldn't have a problem but that's not what's happening here most mons change what they look like unlike mega charizard but that still doesn't mean that this one isn't just dogshit designing cause they couldn't come up with an actual intriguingdesign for mega zecorora
>>728934085>Cheap chinese same guy here >>728934641but if they were truly Chinese, they would've made their game into a microtransaction hellhole or tried skimming through budgeting for their game
>>728932807>2 yearsIs it out of early access? What exactly was the game's state 2 years ago?
>>728933669Worm is the worst one here. Dumb fuck looks like a penis sticking out of the ground when you see it in the wild. Also it's a train because you can't just have a fantastical animal anymore, it has to be based on a concept.Cheesestring man has genie syndrome where the design is just ok but it's disgustingly overpowered and meant to be important (#1000). Also it's a surfer because God only knows.Dwarf is cute but when you break down the design it's basically a Jack Frost clone. Honorary Pal.
>>728933243>both games have some duck billed animal, ergo it must be a copy>who thinks of ducks that commonly in wildlife?
>>728935219buggy and less fun but they had a big step up in my experience, but they still have problems like ai pathfinding and somewhat egregious grinding but that's solved by making some pals use expeditions mode or industrializing a certain itembut in my true opinion in my eyes the game is a potential man it could be something more than just ark or just pokemon rip off which i know which is impossible to avoid since most are called pokemon ripoff regardless but there is potential even if /v/ says otherwise
>>728923594You just posted one of the few good switch era designs, at least post some shit like dudunsparce and the salt nlock minecraft mob
>>728927502What I find funny is that Pokemon fangames have good fakemon designs, yet indie monster catchers have pretty shit designs across the board, only marginally better than the gen 8 and 9 output
Why can't we all get along?
>>728928860Only good one is Chillet, all the other ones are inferior versions of existing pokemon, that one dragon that looks like a cross between Dragonite and Reshiram is pretty neat though, basically Mega Dragonite if GF wasn't retarded.
>>728938452Nitemary is so underrated.
>>728932692Coromon
>>728932807Wonder if Pokemon is so far gone they might manage to not have a single good design in gen 10 other than maybe the box legends, the designated furbait design, a regional form and the first or second stage of a starter
>>728923380There's a consensus among the best Japanese fans to not draw any more Palworld stuff to "not anger Nintendo" and also avoid angering the Nintendrおnes
>>728938625She'd be much more liked if it we didn't have so much Dark types when she came outAnyway, Lullu!!!
>>728938625She is very cute and has a very useful skill.
>>728938931That is true. There are way too many dark types.Lullu is so precious.I fucking love the animations in this game man.>>728938963True and true.
>>728939043
>>728923594real life animals but cuteified and with some frills is peak mon design
>>728939226Adorable.
Imagine liking this over the most adorable spider that is Tarantriss lmao
Precious cute cloud brat.
>>728939445Tarantriss is top tier but I do like whatever the fuck that thing is.Could make for a decent medabots with an art style tweak.
>>728939445soul>>728939569soulless
>>728923380>or Digimonlol'd
>>728939628They're both shit actually, the palworld one tried too hard to pander to spiderfuckers, but spidops just sucks from a concept standpoint
>>728939916She's be a cute design if she actually had 8 limbs and they got ride of her bra+leotard but it's way to horny for it's own good
>>728923380If /v/ was capable of thinking for itself, a majority of the threads I see including this one probably wouldn't exist the way that they do. Maybe that hypothetical /v/ exists in a better world.Anyways, there's multiple reasons but the big one is that they don't have the DECADES of history, games, merchandise, advertising, syndicated television, movies, spinoffs, etc. I can't name a single palfuck from palfuckworld but if you show me a pokemon from gen 7 and below I can name the fucker, especially the OG 151 which have now been burned into my memory. Everyone and their grandma knows what a Pikachu is and if you show that big yellow totoro thing from Palworld to my grandma she'd call it a Pikachu. We can fight over the quality of each franchise all day long but at the end of it all it'd be laughable to compare Pokemon's cultural significance to Palworld's. The latter was born in the former's shadow and the chances of escaping that are zero.
>>728923380I like them more than NuPokemon designs
>>728939916Tarantriss is cute, there is nothing wrong with a design appealing to monster fuckers, hell, the best monster designs in any game of this type are the ones pandered to monster fuckers.Tarantriss isn't sexualized or fetishistic, she is just cute.
>>728939916>Spidops just sucks from a concept standpointLiterally how? It's a trapdoor spider adapted into a spy that sets traps using it's webs that evolves from a smaller spider with a abundance of thread that it wrapped around its abdomen. It's an incredibly solid logical throughline that's standard fare for Pokemon
>>728940093can it be argued that both ips are potential mans and when i say pokemon is a potential man i mean its modern state since all their profits comes from merchandise and not their games considering they're low quality
>>728940450>trapdoor spidermeant net-casing spider, my bad
>>728940450By not looking like a bunch of bamboo sticks with a goofy face for starters
>>728935272>Also it's a train because you can't just have a fantastical animal anymore, it has to be based on a concept.Welcome to gen 2, retard.
>>728933693>when all they can think for their mega design is just making bigger or giving it an extra tail or just flat out changing the color palette to the worst one everBecause when they change the design completely you also complain, dumbass?And they're super versions of the same mon, why the fuck should it change completely to begin with
It's probably been said itt, but for monster collectors the gameplay doesn't actually matter, and trying to compare them on that basis doesn't actually work.When you're asking>Why aren't digimon, palworld games, etc as popular as Pokemon games?What you're really asking is>In the realm of over a thousand pokemon, a few dozen of which people like, why do people "not like" the roster of other monster collecting games as a collective?
>>728933756I’m autistic and Goldengo is hilarious one of my favs
>>728940826the real thing isn't exactly the most normal looking spider either
>>728941072It'd be like asking why more people are interested in Sanrio vs Whimsyload
>>728941072You are wrong, the gameplay matters a lot Pokémon’s robust multiplayer is a big part of why it continues to be successful
>>728935448>but in my true opinion in my eyes the game is a potential man it could be something more than just ark or just pokemon rip offthe anime would already be out if it wasn't for the lawsuit holding things back> which i know which is impossible to avoid since most are called pokemon ripoff regardlessanything that tries to break into a monopolized genre is going to be called a rip-off. it's just a label drones hurl at any threats to their corporate overlords' dominanceamusingly enough, digimon was called a pokemon rip-off only overseas, as japs were well aware that digimon was a tamagotchi spin-off for boys from day one unlike westoids
>>728923380Because Pokémon came first
>>728941334Nobody gives a shit about the gameplay autists optimized the fun out of in gen 3.
>>728932953This could be a Pokémon already, one like Lilligant
>>728923380It did though. People made lots of palworld porn and this is unironically the deepest pit of the culture forge. Its just no one wants to admit they gooned to sexy pokemon so much its permanently ingrained in their psyches as a pavlovian trigger for happiness. Palworld is well on its way to that same relevance.
>>728940265>open leotard>boobs>flared hipsmay not be sexualized to you but I get a raging boner everytime I see her in game
>>728941227what a goofy fella
>>728941063>Because when they change the design completely you also complain, dumbass?No one ever said this fag also this argument would only work if it the designs is decent which most of the mega designs aren't, and why the fuck do people like you always resort to this argument when they're game gets criticized even i criticize some of the palworld designs and acknowledge some of the share way too much design philosophy with pokemon but you don't see me automatically trying to defend them like it's my dying breathe, instead i would ask them to do better
>>728933669Goldengo Sexo
>>728938529Agreed
I asked ChatGPT who’s the Pikachu (face of Palworld) out of curiosity and it said Grizzbolt is the mascot. It also mentioned Sparkit as another Pikachu-style creature, but it deems Grizzbolt as the face of the game. No mention of Chillet or Relaxaurus
>>728941072The cute birdie! :D
>>728939445hes a tough bug. sets up stickyweb and dies like a chad
>>728933693Guys my Mega Luxray has autism
>>728940163It'll grow on ya
>>728944093Grizzbolt is the pal of the first tower boss, it also appears in the menu screen and even has dedicated furniture like the grizzbolt catcher, you can also get one early on, so it is a good candidate for poster boy.Officially, the mascot is Relaxaurus, unofficially it is Chillet.
>>728941964>LOK'TAR OGAR WEB AND THUNDER>*ganks an aflyance fag*
>>728938625Would hug
>>728923380because they suck as designsall monster catchers these days fall into one of two traps>trying too hard to not look like pokemonor>trying too hard to look like pokemonpalworld is a victim of the latter
>>728923380Palnigger thread
>>728945561based
For me? It's Elphidran
>>728923380>Charmander>Jigglypuff>MareepFUCKING LAWSUIT THESE THEIFES BASTARDS!!!
>>728935272>>728940982The worm would be fine if it had literally any other eyes and didnt have the weird blue noodle arms that come out of the ports on the sides.
>>728945645Her general design is really cute, but I wish the shape of he neck and body was slightly different.Compare the official model to this.The shape of the neck, the shape of the body, the ratio of one to the other, the position of the arms, etc.
>>728945461then how can someone truly make a good design, i mean pokemon fans are just as hypocritical since they think every other series have either overdesigned monsters,ttoo simple or a too referencey design you can't really win since they will always defend designs unless they're from pokemon themselves
>>728923380It just kind of fails to deliver on what makes Pokemon widely appealing - it has good creature design AND there's a broad range of Pokemon that fit the "type" of creatures you like. Part of that is that Pokemon often DOES do bizarre experimental pokemon designs that nobody likes, they are willing to take risks and try new things, and that's part of how they usually manage to produce a few pokemon each game that turn peoples heads and get even the most jaded /v/ user to think "I actually like that one".Palworld tried to do this, but only has ok creature design, and a fairly narrow range (a kind of cute-cool-fapbait triangle) that wasn't distinct enough from Pokemon to stand on its own, drawing the eternal comparison to a series that has generations of existing designs to draw from and has already set the bar for creature design.The novelty of "YOU CAN GIVE THEM GUNS THAT IS SO WACKY AND NOT SOMETHING YOU WOULD EVER SEE IN POKEMON!" can only last for so long after all.
>>728945561>Slur shit mouth
>>728923380Digimon didn't have a template to take from because it came out too close to Pokemon. It was made to be a clone of tamagochis If Digimon came out a few years later, you better believe half of the digimon would be clones of pikachu and charmander.
>>728946178imma just repeat my question >>728940467just the potential man part i do think they are getting better with the designs in my opinion
>>728946124the problem is that people always consider pokemon when making designs, either to look more like pokemon or lesspokemon doesn't have to do this, they do whatever the fuck they want because they're the big fish in the little pondit's as simple as not worrying about pokemon one way or the other
>>728923380Eh, I think the primary reason is that some of the naming is lazy af, and more that Pokemon does try to give spotlight on each individual pokemon through different medians like cards and its anime. But, I can only speak for the first few generations cause I've fell out over a decade ago.But besides some of the blatant ripoffs, I think Palworld could have been more unique in designs with some very minor changes and probably avoided a fuckton of backlash.
I like Pokemon. I like Digimon. I like Palworld. Am I supposed to hate 2 of these because I like the other?
>>728946706You are supposed to be in love with Pokemon, but pretend to like the other two to make Pokemon jealous because Pokemon has huge tits the other two can’t compete with
>>728946756But I like chests flat.
>>728946706>>728946808You are a real one anon.Keep on keeping on.
>>728946393Not really. I don't really think either are a "Potential Man", Pokemon is like the most successful video game property of all times with tons of iconic designs (not to say its recent games don't look and run like absolute garbage in a way that tarnishes their image) and Palworld was a decently successful game given that they came out of nowhere and made hundreds of millions (even if I am ragging on its less-than-ambitious creature design).If either were a Potential Man, they'd be constantly hyped up, never delivering, and then having some lame excuse as to why they could totally still deliver but just didn't this time and will the next.
I enjoyed Palworld more than any Pokemon game that's come out in the last 15 years
>>728946178agreed, palworld is just too narrow in design. it feels like they're playing it too safe and that's just not very appealing at the end of the day.i don't like modern pokemon games but they still consistently make new pokemon designs i like, even if the internet always derides everything past [gen they grew up with]i don't like digimon games whatsoever because they're a horrible mixed bag of genres and the few RPG type games have awful mechanics, but i still like a good portion of digimon designs.but there's barely any pals that even register in my memory, they just slide right off my brain like water off a raincoat.
>>728932865I saw this post and immediately got so horny I had to go bust one out to Gloopie.
>>728933669Oerthworm is such a wasted concept. How do you fuck up "mecha worm" this bad?? They could have made it like a tunnel boring machine or made it plated in steel rings like an worm's segments, but instead we got this piece of shit
>>728947072Same desu. The level of interaction with Pals trumps Pokemon hard which only add more to Palworld's appeal.
>>728946867but it doesn't mean they can't get better throughout the years palworld barely got a chance to fully release so i think it could be a potential man if they manage to make amends with most of its mistakes and try to come up with good tropes and conquer the problems people have with the game meanwhile pokemon barely does anything and still gets a bunch of people to buy their games even if its low quality
>>728948054>The level of interaction with PalsI want them to expand that aspect of the game to an absurd degree.
>>728947369>the internet always derides everything past [gen they grew up with]why do you faggots always assume that everyone who doesn't agree with you is a contrarian?come up with a real argument instead of making sweeping generalizations about anyone who isn't you
>>728949084this is a really dumb post to make when every single gen has people who say it was the last time pokemon was ever good
>>728949303>I encounter people who do X all the time>therefore everyone does Xgrade school reasoning
>>728923380This only makes sense if you are talking about the first 150 Pokemon. Most people are probably more likely to recognize a Pal than anything after the first few gens
>>728946478>simple as not worrying about pokemon one way or the otherthing is even when they don't we get stuff like cassette beasts which has a bunch of ugly monsters that look like they pressed the randomizer button for all of their designs they go for the random design philosophy approach which doesn't work the only time i seen people actually remember design and (even if this sounds crazy) dragon city had more memorable designs than your average indie monster tamer
>>728949432actually, let me rephrase that. it's games journo-tier reasoning. the same kind of twisted logic they use when they shittalk literally everyone who plays video games by cherrypicking caustic, unhinged posts on twatter and tarring everyone with the same brush. chances are they wrote those comments themselves using sockpuppets
>>728923380>why don't cheap knock-offs don't get recognitionlel retard>despite Palworld being the better game?lel retard
>>728949084>>728949432>>728949554>let me just have a melty over something that wasn't even said to begin withcertified paltard moment
>>728949625>talking generalizations to dismiss criticism>hear refutation against cartoon-tier logic>palshitter accusationswow pokemon really has a huge cultism problem
shan't continue replying
Y'all say that while China got a pool noodle sex creature and holy fuck, the amount of Chillet stuff over there is big.
>>728941072>>728941334>>728923674>>728923814>>728924017These are all true simultaneously because Pokemon is multilayered, it isn't just a game and for the west it never was JUST a game.You can engage with it in any way you want to where the vast majority of pokemon fans don't even know every single pokemon. pic related
>>728946178Pokemon lacks the one thing I want the most, kill machines, big fucking aggressive looking full metal war machines designed with the only purpose to kill.>but muh golurkThat shit is a golem not a robot, golems are gay>but muh metagrossToo dumb looking to be intimidating>but muh [insert steel type here]All shit, pokemon is full of safe and round designs.Machinedramon stands tall as the king of machine monsters.
>>728947369>>728949625i don't even think this is a fair pairing considering the pokemon anime made it easier to remember them also this makes no sense since none of the modern mons are the memorable at all besides being shown in the anime in a good light to give them a reputation and constant reminder that they exist by the huge blowup in popularity during the pokemon card era so it was inevitable and nothing can really replicate it
>>728950117Honestly? Respect for being 14.
>>728950023No wonder.
>>728950169i genuinely don't even know what you're trying to say, maybe go ask chatgpt to explain the concept of a fucking comma
>>728950114>These are all true simultaneouslyNope, just the first one is. Maybe you could argue the fourth one is making the same point.
>>728950176But enough of pokefags.
>>728950114You posted this while arguing that mons like Rellor are forgettable.Instead you got someone noticing that only Pokemon and Digimon seem to have "real body hidden inside thing" creatures. Ha! Bet you didn't expect that.
>>728950307im saying it's not really fair pitting these two ip's against each other in that category since the anime made it easier to relate to certain Pokémon's and the cards were just an easier way to remind people that this certain pokemon exist since kids would unpack them and see what pokemon they get
>>728950114that's rellor brohe evolves into rabsca, one of two mons to get revival blessing because it's a scarabalso his shiny is a gold ball
>>728927502>Pokemon,>Good job at monster designsthis has to be bait or an actual retarded children. Pokemon has the most basic and generic monsters shit right now.>Oh look a ball but with eyes, loos your keys have eyes now too, a fucking washing machine.
>>728950429are you saying that i like pokemon designs and don't like palworld designs because pokemon has an anime that i never watched and trading cards that i never gave a shit about because i was a yugioh kid?
Palworld has Lunaris, therefore Pals > Mons
>>728950563no not really, I'm basically saying it's more of a relating issue than a design issue it's like this examplepegasus from beyblade is only known from the anime that why kids always go for it since they like the characters meanwhile beyblades that are unknown and had no relevance besides from the manga are more unlikely to get chosen because the kids don't know who or what they are
for me its duel masters
Are there any other decent options out there aside from Pokemon and Palworld for monster tamer games?I tried Casette Beasts and it was bad.
>>728923380i think being 28 years too late might have something to do with it
>>728950639
>>728950967monster sanctuary is the only one i enjoyed
>>728950967monster sanctuary was alright
>>728950908Anon, do you mean the card game? Because if you do, I love you. It's been a while since I've heard that name.
>>728933243A lot of these are a stretch dispite gen 1 definitely copying toriyamas style but golbat definitely steals from dracy
>>728950639My team is Icelyn, Nitemary, Selyne, Jelliette and Lunaris, all juiced up and with legend and demon god, It is so sad that when 1.0 hits I will replace my Lunaris with the new cat waifu pal, at least she will lead the expedition team.I just know that there will be a ton of new waifu pals in the 1.0 update, if so my Jelliette and Selyne are also in danger to be benched.
>>728923380most of the monsters look like shitmon
>>728951101yes
>>728950967Come back home, tamer man.
>>728951063>>728951075I don't know, I tried Aethermancer demo and didn't like it much, and considering it's the same people...well I'll check it out anyway.
>>728945461I actually do like a lot of the designs, the game is just dogshit. If they make a game that isn't some shitty ARK/Rust clone or farming game I might play it.
>>728950556And the rest is somehow worse. Funny how that works.
they're just kinda ugly and actively look like indieslop
The thing is that a lot of games don't really capture what makes pokemon fun,Palworld is really close, but it struggles. the survival crafting aspect I think turns away a lot of people that just want pokemon. Pokemon ZA was really good for battling. unfortunately that was the entire game. If you were fed up like I was with Arceus's crafting and inventory system. the simplified inventory was nice. Palworld kind of has the opposite, limited inventory and inventory management is a pretty big deal. And durability, Its all very rough.
>>728951167Holy shit that brings back memories.
>>728950556>washing machinethe fact that you still remember and complain about designs from 16 years ago is very telling of pokemon's design quality
>>728951568There was also some other old ass card game with monsters that i don't remember, have to start searching.
>>728951548could they probably turn this around i can see them fixing some of these problems in their 1.0 full release>>728951507>spouting buzzwords to earn brownie points
>>728951101>kaijudo was an ill-fated collaboration with wotc to promote duel masters in the westwhat the fuck I thought they had nothing to do with each otherwhat were they thinking?
>>728951663It is so bad that it can't be forgotten, like a particularly ugly shit you took years ago and still remember because it was just so fucking ugly even for a shit.
>>728923380>why isn't this literal knockoff with zero original thought unable to become relevant outside of retards on 4changee I wonder why
>>728951663nta but they were trying way too hard to shill the rotom devices that they became ingrained into people's minds besides being a waste of a concept that never went anywhere besides staying as a rotom phone
>>728951548survival crafting is abhorrent dogshit and an insanely fucking oversaturated genre, second only to roguelike deckbuilder. there was never a chance of it actually competing with pokemon.
How many more will it reach on 1.0? 40M? 50M?
>>728951548>the survival crafting aspect I think turns away a lot of people that just want pokemon.those people would have never played palworld even if it were like pokemon. they're too attached to the brand to care
>>728950967What was wrong with Cassette Beasts? I think it's great.
>>728923380why would it ever be relevant when no one actually likes it for what it is and it's instead only used as tool for seething babies to complain about pokemon?
>>72895188240 million chinese bots on gamepass? wow...
>>728951882>xboxlmao they're using gamepass users as "players"
>>728951898nta but i had the same problem with cassette beast it plays like if yugioh and pokemon had a baby (which wasn't executed well besides having good animations for it) not mention the story is western fag shit which was on the same level of tumblr tier type of storytelling and the designs are all over the place i would place it above tem tem and coramon buts that's pretty much its nexomon did a better monster tamer
>>728951882Nah. 1.0 won't really cause much buzz, much less anything like what happened in the first month.
>>728951898I kinda has choice paralysis playing it. Swapping attacks in and out like that with any beast.Also the story and dialogue was dogshit, especially the dialogue choices being there for no reason pissed me off.
>>728952093those are still players though? >>728952063also why do you fags always call them chinese when they are far from the average chinese developer if this game was truly chinese this game would've been scattered with microtransaction's a bunch load of ui's all over the place
>>728951882>>728952129That is, unless they do something really bold.Which I doubt they would. They've been playing it safe/straight for a while now, which is fine.
>>728951882by the time it hits 1.0 Palworld will be completely forgotten, it has only held on because of people being mad online and thats quickly running out of steam
>>728938529this
>>728952352GIWIWITP
>>728952129>Pokopia video 1M views>Palfarm video 3M viewsI don't know, dog, people still seem pretty interested in Palworld.
>>728952295>those are still players though?they're counting anyone with a game pass as a player
>>728952347>by the time it hits 1.0 Palworld will be completely forgottenwe are literally 3 weeks away from 2026 now before it could be released if it's still being mentioned from time to time i don't think it's that forgotten you should save that statement for games that are like dust born or concord or games like foamstars
>>7289523471.0 is confirmed to release next year
>>728952507i mean if you're playing a game doesn't that count as a player?
>>728927502>Digimon>Shit designsDie
wake me up when pokemon can interact with each other
>>728952648they can but they're super pre rendered and only happen when you stand still for a certain period of time or when you load an area in
>>728952648I like how some pals will attack each other in the wild.
>>728952717>>728952768closest thing is Serviper and Zangoose
>>728933319You can still butcher your pals anon
>>728952127>>728952236I think the gameplay's really fun with how to battles work, but fair enough. Also fair on the story aspect, I think it's neat at best, personally. The music's great, though.
>>728952504Those are new games.Now consider that a share of those numbers are already palworld player, and that another share of those numbers might be people who will never play palworld.So it stands to reason that getting another 8kk players probably isn't happening with the release of 1.0It could, I just don't think it will.>>728952605It's so funny to me that Blimpmon has 2 sets of eyes.There's nothing wrong with that, and it makes a lot of sense practically speaking, but it's still funny to me.>>728952768I love that some go around in packs and some times you can witness literal turf wars.
My biggest gripe is that PALS DON'T EVOLVEI want my little guy to be bigI thought Sparkkit would evolve into the big thunder fat oneBut it doesn'tSo what the fuck?
>>728923380An inconsistent art style between environment and characters, the genre being survival open-world crafting in which there are plenty more in that category to choose from (and not even all that unique), a barely comprehensible story EVEN by a typical Pokemon game's standard, and forgettable names and designs.The ultimate issue is that it was clear from the beginning that Palworld was going to be a one and done project; even after release, the company was planning on moving on to other projects. I doubt they ever expected anyone to cling onto the game as much as they did.Palworld falls under the fallacy of people using it to scorn Nintendo and the Pokemon games in general; there's no actual merit to itself as a game. It's merely a vehicle for people to spit into Nintendo (and Game Freak's) eyes for perceived slights against Pokemon's potential.
>ctrl f>No Celesdirshame on you /v/
>>728952587anon learn to read>counting ANYONE WITH A GAMEPASS as a playernever said anyone who PLAYS on gamepass
>>728953004ahem, i posted her>>728932023
>>728951757They literally copied over cards from one game to the other. It was so weird to see.
>>728952915Evolution is a terrible mechanic and Palworld not only not having them but also having ways to make any Pal great is way better.
>>728952915I like that they don't evolve. Each creature is its own critter and that's that.Although there are some designs that really look like they were meant to be part of an evolution line in some form.>>728953069That's fucking adorable.
>>728952915Fuck no, I like that they don't evolve evolution is a shit mechanic, I want to run my cute and small pals for the whole game without worrying about a stronger form.My Jelliette will always stay cute and small.
>>728953000I think that is a little harsh, the game does have merit. The use of NPC's and automation in palworld is trimmed down and streamlined pretty well. I've played a lot of really mediocre survival crafting games and I think Palworld raised the bar on the genre.
Palworld is better than pokemon because you can sleep with your pals without mods or anything, sleeping with your pals is a mechanic in the game.
>>728953000>The ultimate issue is that it was clear from the beginning that Palworld was going to be a one and done project;but they aren't moving on? they are still working on this game just like the other ones that people said they abandoned i think they are trying to make game studio but aren't following the basic principles of a studio hell they help other games finish their games i just think the ceo is just over in his head and is rushing things way to fast not to mention his philosophyand if they truly wanted people to stop using palworld as a way to spit in their faces they should probably do better and make it actually impossible for people to look for alternatives
>>728953504So basically you are saying that Palworld is for lonely losers to fulfill their sick fantasies while PokeCHADS go outside and have sex with beautiful women?
>>728951663Pokemon NEVER had good monster designs
>>728953575The only sex pokefaggots get is getting fucked in the ass by gamefreak.
>>728923594Watame should sue Gamefreak
>>728953575pokechads? wasn't there a prominent pokemon card collector that got outed and arrested as a pedophile?
>>728953765watamelon
>>728923470pretty much this.
>>728953773so a chad
>>728923380different starting points
>>728953837i think you mean child predator
>>728952347Not completely forgotten. This game is basically ARK and I wouldn't doubt that the current players are just ARK players. If you look at the playerbase history for ARK, you'll see that Palworld has the same number of average players ARK did years ago. Even now ARK still has 25-30k average players. Palworld seems like the most competent ARK clone (even better than Atlas, which was made by the same company that did ARK) so it'll keep selling over the years. The threads will slowly disappear for sure though because these threads are populated by the same 20 people who will move on to something else.
>>728953923innocent until proven guilty
>>728953920this prob
>have to join a discord to use lewd mods for palworldthis sucks
>>728954002The presumption of innocence is meant for manners of criminal dealings. It's not actually a model that you're supposed to apply to random engagements.Mostly because it's rejecting the fact that you can't actually act as a rational agent without reading in your prejudices.
>>728933243the difference is pokemon is more marketable
>>728952127>it plays like if Yugioh and Pokemon had a babyWhat does that even mean?
>>728954191Imagine when discord goes down and we get another megaupload scenario.
>>728923380They're only two years old and the niche is occupied by 30 year old designs everyone knows.
>>728954191They still didn't return to lovers lab?Fucking hell.
>>728953004can palworld's legendaries breed or are they cucked like pokemon's?
>>728955342they can breed and even pass on their trait
>>728955342Only with another of their own.
I like pal designs and pocketpair but I am so fucking tired of survival basebuilding games. Every update I try and go back, but I just can't get into that shit anymore.
>>728955342i breed with frostallion all the time if you get what i mean
>>728955342All the Pals can breed with any Pal.
>>728955595I think you're going to have to elaborate anon.
>>728955342Any pal can breed, breeding in palworld is more open-ended because you can get something completely different unless you are breeding two pals of the exact same species.But that is a good thing because you can pass down legend to a shitty low tier pal you like after a lot of crossbreeding.
>>728953575More like they go outside and molest e-celebs
>>728954351basically, the fusion part of the game it even has the spiral thing that looks like polymerization and since that's basically the whole gimmick for the game
Palworld ain't going to compete with the OG 151 Pokemon, that's silly because vack then, Kanto's dex was just the best. But i dare to say Palworld competes with the greats of Gens 3 and 4.Palworld might not have the nostalgia thanks to it being just a 2 years old franchise compared to Pokemon's soon to be 30 years, but Palworld in a single year showed that Pokemon is not an invincible juggernaut of a franchise you can't topple (Though it illustrated that Nintendo's a bunch of butthurt niggas to go to such lengths like Patenting game mechanics rather than forcing Gamefreak to not produce shit.)
Kat on deck
>>728956461in terms of overall creature design qualitygen 3 > palworld = gen 4 > gen 1 > gen 6 > gen 5 > gen 7 > gen 2 > gen 9 > gen 8(truth nuke)
>>728957196Some people actually think this.
>>728938529This. Make love, not war.
>>728957359I wish anubis had a fluffier texturing.
>>728957240being 100% cynical a lot of gen 1 pokemon are "memorable" just because they are gen 1 instead of being objectively good, and there's a lot of boring filler-feeling mons (makes sense due to context but it doesn't saves them)can't decide between gen 4 and palworld because both have extremely high highs but also a bunch of unfettered ass designsevery gen is at least acceptable except 2, 9 and 8 these suck
>>728957464Anubis' velvety smoothness has its own appeal.
The one thing that makes Palworld click to me is that Pals are good when you look at them in motion. The designs on their own are pretty good, but they're elevated to high levels when you see them work or battle or just goof around, whoever at pocketpair was in charge of animating these guys is doing an excellent job. Makes me want a Palworld spinoff with the same real time combat the current game has, but we can play as Pals.
>>728958218so is it born with the clothes or...?
>>728957359Pals would definitely dom and rape Pokemon, even if you put guns aside, ALL Pals might be on 100 base physical attack due to them being capable of doing hard manual labor, Lucario can use any aura farming fighting techniques on Anubis all it wants, the second Anubis would put his paws on a Lucario, that's going to end in raping and gaping Lucario's holes.
>>728923674only the terminally online think like this, ironically irl palworld was huge at launch, everyone was talking about it, even people that never played pokemon bought itand that was even before the pokemon rivalry shit was pushed by nin toddlers
>>728958694100 base physical attack * at a bare minimum*
>>728958694100 attack is nothing dudemodern pokemon are so strong they break the 255 integer limitmega mawile has 259 attack
>>728958874I meant at a bare minimum, a tiny ass Cattiva is staying at 100 base atk due to that little fuck's capabilities at handling a pick to start mining. Now imagine bigger swole pals like Blazamut, that thing is not even legendary by palworld standards and i can see it mogging high atk stats like Kyurem Black's 170.
>>728924429How? I can't recognize or name a single pal despite /v/ shilling this game nonstop since it came out. I don't play either series and think Pokemon is low-effort trash so I'm not even biased.
>>728923380they copied all the modern gay pokemon designs instead of the old cool pokemon designs >:/
>>728923380Dont know about digimon but the insufferable fanbase ruin most pokemon designs for mePals have been cool so far
>>728923380Looks like bootleg Pokemon
>>728958573Unlike pokemon pals are clearly intelligent, so those are actually clothes, Anubis is well known for high crafting ability so he definitely made them.
>>728958694Power wise I think the average pal can easily defeat the average pokemon, but legendary pokemon are still stronger than anything in palworld except Bellanoir Libero which clears all the way to the highest tier legendary pokemon like palkia, dialga and arceus.
>>728952347Now this is Pokedrone cope
>>728953723Lmao based
>>728960631I think Jetragon could clap legendary cheeks all day desu.
>>728961331Yeah, it is probably too fast and hits too hard for most legendary pokemon to keep up.
>>728923380Forced shilled dead meme
>>728962486But enough about Pokemon ZA
>>728962486But enough of pokemon za
>>728958573Basically yes. An in-game lore file explains that pals just appear into existence. But what that other anon said is also true. Anubis is one of the best crafters is the game and could easily craft whatever clothing it wants.
>>728958573They're clothes.
>>728962817>bare chest female anubisl-lewd
>>728962817so you're saying you they're not naked and you can peek? that's kind of messed up isn't it
Lamball is the best Pal. I love this stupid fucking fluffball and WILL kill anyone and everyone who tries to hurt my boy.
>>728963952Most humanoid pals have natural fur conveniently covering anything, but stuff like Dazzi has to wear a micro tube top, is not fur or a part of its body is just a small piece of clothing covering her chest.
>>728964264I like how they roll down the hill at the start of the game when you kill them.
>>728964731What is going on with that Dazzi? is she ok?
>>728964878She's been worse.
Name a single Pal that doesn't just make you think of whatever Pokémon they ripped off.
>>728965190Chikipi.
>>728965441The most powerful pal.BUT NOT THE MOST GLORIOUS.
>>728965542A living gem, that is how the ultimate life form looks like.
>>728965542>>728965767MODEL REPLACER MOD FOR THIS RETARD WHEN?
>>728965767Anon, fix the file name.>>728965831Nobody would dare to replace his glorious visage.
BEHOLD
>>728965542>>728965767>>728966012Memes aside, I really like this retard.Watching him carry shit on the base is so fun.
>>728954191What's the current state of Palworld mods anyways?I think I remember that there was an overhaul that broke everything and required modders to update their stuff for the new framework. But I don't know how far it has progressed since then.If things are still broken and missing then I'd prefer to keep waiting instead of redownloading the game again and starting fresh.
Why do all the anti-pokemon fags always act like jilted lovers that can't get over the franchise.
>>728954191Which one?
>>728952093Microsoft probably asked them to do this. It was sales for a while then they added player later to include Game Pass
>>728923380Because this is slop only incels like
>>728967895The Sugar Cake Framework I bet.
>>728968141Can't you just get that off of that guy's site?
>>728968203No idea. It's been a while since I dabbled in modding, but I still get discord notifications.Apparently he's also adapting the framework to work with the oblivion remaster.
>>728923380>Why are pals unable to capture the same relevance as Pokemon or Digimon in terms of designs despite Palworld being the better game?For one the designs are just pokemon knock offs, that's an occupied niche, obviouslySecond, it's an abysmal game compared to pokemon and digimon. Especially since you have zero control over your monsters.Third, it's not a multimedia franchise. Not having much of a story is going to be a massive roadblock.Then there's the nonsensical collabs just leaving people asking why.
>>728950114>pic relatedNigger people remember Rellor because it has an awesome shiny.
>>728950117>Machinedramon stands tall as the king of machine monsters.I like machinedramon but if that's your bar for machine monsters then you know nothing.
>>728950117I agree. Machinedramon/Mugendramon is completely fuckable.
>>728965190Flambelle is too damn cute compared to any mon
>>728951801>they were trying way too hard to shill the rotom devicesNot really. Hell, the rotom forms were originally event exclusives so they tried to bury it for some reason.>besides being a waste of a concept that never went anywhere besides staying as a rotom phoneThe same gen they introduced the rotom phone they introduced the rotom pc, rotom bike and a rotom drone.
>>728923380they look like AI generated pokemon
>>728968549Post a better one.
>>728970130That just means AI is better at doing mons than gamefreak itself, sad to think about it.
>>728971000Says a lot that you're not only accepting it as an AI creation but are saying it's better just because you hate what it's attempting to copy.
>>728971151Not really, i don't feel hatred for Pokemon, only Pity. And the simple fact that any AI Generator could flip a better pokemon design than the latest pokemon games really sells the point that gamefreak's a washed up studio.Just consider that the purest form of furbait since Lucario, Meowscarada, is the only standout good design out of scarlet/violet that has gained a LOT of popularity.
>>728968203The newest versions are only on discord and from what I saw some of the mods that use it are incompatible with the older versions.
>>728963952Yes, some Pals wear clothing. Clothing that can be changed and removed.
>>728971946>don't feel hatred for Pokemon, only Pity.Which is what someone in denial of their hatred would say.>Just consider that the purest form of furbait since Lucario, Meowscarada, is the only standout good design out of scarlet/violet that has gained a LOT of popularity.I think that's just a case of you being a furry and not a very good one since Mon like ogrepon, tinkaton, tend to attract them too.
>>728972332>Which is what someone in denial of their hatred would say.If i hated Pokemon, i would not interact with it or humor its permavirgin fanbase of retards, i still have a soft spot for Pokemon, but i've long since neglecte caring about this franchise since the switch 1.>That's just a case of you being a furryPot calling the kettle red aren't we?
>>728972498>i would not interact with it or humor its permavirgin fanbase of retards,And yet here you are interacting with something relating to pokemon, and I have no doubt you're doing this every day.>Pot calling the kettle red aren't we?Not really considering you're the one who brought it up.
>>728964731Why can't Palworld be in this style? The cartoonish-to-realistic world is fucking jarring.
>>728972118>dressless Lyleen
>>728953653Wrong
>>728972118The more impressive part is that Lyleen may look like a stick, but she has a real ass, a perky well-rounded ass.
>>728965190I don't think about pokeshit unless some seething pokemon fan brings it up
>>728923380Everyone knows chillet and lovander.The rest is too pokemon like (but good pokemon, not the modern literal garbage)
>>728972810>off model bullshit with titties pasted onyeah case in point, propped up entirely by porn addicted transsexuals
>>728972957Then what about these two? One of your Pals is even a fusion of them.
>>728973224>my palsI don't play these faggot games because of the fanbase, it's embarrassing to be associated with it after gen 3 but nice try
>>728965190Chillet, which is why it's one of the best designs, it stands on its own.
>>728973224Dinossom > Meganium > Goodra.
>>728971000But game freak is using AI too as evidenced by both mega raichus
>>728973224>Pokemon invented biped dinosaursUh oh, Barneyfag is not going to like this.
>>728933693I legit thought it was a pal when i saw this.
>>728972769>>728972892HOLY
Pals can't evolve so there's no genuine sense of progression. You can raise their stats with bloated farming mechanics, but at the end of the day, the sheep sphere is still gonna be a fuckin sheep sphere. It's pointless. The excitement of seeing your lil bro or sis PHYSICALLY grow and become powerful is one of the best parts about Pokemon and Digimon.
>>728976389>get a cute mon>turns into an ugly faggotNo, fuck that shit. I'm glad SMT stop doing this shit in V as well.
>>728952915>I want my little guy to be biggive it peaches, iv fruits, good passives, good skills and good teammatesORuse grizzboltWe dont need to copy everything from pokemon, if anything we need to copy more from ark, give us equilateral triangles
>>728923380>No evolutions>no monster you catch is ever "good enough", and you must use a shitty breeding mechanic in order to get the "better one">All your bases are crowded by design, because you literally CANNOT handle the amount of chores this game throws at you>The best pal designs are worthless in both combat and territory tasks, and only truly work as cute mascots>game emphasizes catching hundreds of same type creatures just because they're good at territory tasks>the game has practically no story, very little world building, no major cities/hubs, and the most pointless multiplayer experience beyond raidbosses, which are too difficult anyway and require a full base of maxed out creatures to pull off>the grind treadmill amplifies EXPONENTIONALLY with every new tier of equipment, making sure you spend 99% of your game time collecting materials and doing menial tasks instead of actually exploring or battling anything>soulless amnesia protagonist>soulless factions that have no real headquarters or effect on the world other than being around the map as hostile npc:s>higher tiers of same weapon/armor are very hard to get, and even if you do get a blueprint, expect a ridiculous grind to actually make, maintain and use said gearPalworld is a burnout simulatorI genuinely loved my first 2 days playing the game, but then reality set in and I noticed just how hollow and pointless it isWhy do I go around fighting tower bosses?Why would I even catch anything that's weaker or less useful than what I already have?Why must traits and blueprints be so OP? I can't even get excited for finding something rare because I know it's going to have shitty trait rolls which means I won't even be using it for anything except breeding (which takes decades to make anything useful, even if you have the "cakes")Maybe one day it'll have total conversion mods or something, but I don't believe the devs have a good plan for gameplay or content in general
>>728923380It's doing fine for a new IP from an literal who studio. I dunno why you expect it to be at the same level as decades old franchises.
>>728976189Lyleen-Noct is made to be senselessly gangbanged, raped and gaped by a whole garden of super horny extra-pollinating Lullu's. She will lay eggs until the day she dies.
>>728976389Speak for yourself. It's fucking hilarious I can make the little chicken Pal into a practical god.
Evolutions suck for Palworld, but it also sucks that there's not enough pal cosmetics to reflect the kind of shit the pals are getting put into, either as work slaves with mining hardhats to strawhats to welcome people to the rice fields to god damn military helmets, or for the more degenerate side, make them wear raggedy slave clothing, or strip pals naked (i.e. Dress-less Petallia/Lyleen) or sex slave loincloths
>>728977718Blessed be skill fruits too.
>>728977718And all of the work you could have put into that shitty Pal could have gone into another Pal with two or even three times the stats.
>>728976931filtered lmao>>728976389Pals unlike pokeshart grow powerful the more you use them, literally, because of the trust system, it makes any pal viable, it makes the weakest pals strong because the weaker the pal the higher the power boost of trust.You can ACTUALLY use your favorites, if you like lamball then you can have lamball all the way to postgame as your main pal, like in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WCfXydiOQ4 Chikipi is THE weakest pal stat wise, and its ability isn't useful for combat either and even without direct player damage it can manage to solo the hardest version of the final tower boss because enough time and effort was put into that Chikipi.
This shit is basically only still played by chinks who'll gobble up anything. The only reason anyone remembers paltranny is because of that nintendo lawsuit. It was the FOTM game that fell into obscurity faster than any other in recent years.
>>728978049I really wish they had thought about a cosmetics system from the get go.The way they go about it now, where they essentially swap the Pal's model, is fine, but if instead they had hook points in the meshes, different classes of attachments that could go in those points depending on the characteristics of the pal, etc, they could have gone wild with that shit.Imagine having a hat that you can put in your Cattiva regardless of the rest of the outfit, then you can take the same tiny hat and put it on a large pal and it would look hilarious.That kind of thing.Maybe modders will implement something of that sort. And if not, model swaps work okay too.
>>728978992>The only reason anyone remembers paltranny is because of that nintendo lawsuit.Then blame Pokefags and Nintendo instead Palworld's userbase for that, if those bums kept their mouth shut, Palworld would've faded away, but thanks to that stupid lawsuit making Pokemon games look far worse than they already are, Palworld's not likely to fade away anymore unless pocketpair themselves blunder hard
>>728956461>palworld in a single year showed that Pokemon is not an invincible juggernaut of a franchise you can't topple >pokemon is bigger than everBeing delusional is the first step toward transitioning genders.
>>728979236''muh sales'' is hardly an argument when PokeTCG's profits stem primarily from scalpers, who are an embarrasing lot, and if we talk sales, Palworld has yet to be outsold by LZA.
>>728979236the point is that palworld has been a monumental success in spite of pokemonit shows that pokemon has accrued a significant contingent of people who've become disenchanted with it. now it's coasting off brand power, relying mostly on clueless normalfag parents who buy things based on brand names, not too dissimilar to hello kitty. meanwhile the general opinion among fans is that the games have decayed like the simpsons, which paints a somewhat bleak picture in the long term
>>728978552>5000 attack Chikipijesus christ
Funny to see people claim palworld is for chinks and browns while pokemon, the fandom that has faced a lot of stupid bullshit (molesting wolfieVGC off the scene, various grooming scandals and a bunch of actual mutts fighting outside costco's for pokecars) are the supposed aryan race.
>>728979470palworld also costs a third of that other game (probably even less in chinkland where it sold it's bulk), and is on a bigger platform
>>728938931>>728939226Sex with flowers
>>728923380>Palworld being the better gameSurvival shit sucks. That's why Palworld doed fast. Fuck Ark.
>>728978552so what you're saying is all the pals are essentially skins and are completely interchangeable, at least in respect to combatgreat monster battler you got there
>>728978267>shitty PalTake that back. I love my Lamball.
>>728979812>doedESLbro
>>728979548People only really got into Palworld at the start because it blew up as "Pokémon but with guns haha" and the whole ridiculous idea of cute little monsters you could straight-up eat or basically enslave. It felt like some wild 4channy fever dream brought to life.The general public never really saw it as a serious rival to Pokémon; it was mostly viewed as a ridiculous meme game. That's exactly why it never developed a real identity of its own and why no one ever talks about it without immediately bringing up Pokémon.
>>728979839Your player character looks like Akuma, god damn.
[HAPPY NEWS] The more Palworld sells the more Pocketpair will have to pay Nintendo in damages as they work on per copy basis.Thanks for funding the next 1 2 Switch!
>>728979839Based LamBULL.
>>728979857>People only really got into Palworld at the start because it blew up as "Pokémon but with guns haha"it was way more than that. keep being delusional. it's because it took pokemon's world to its logical conclusion and feared where the former feared to tread. granted, they did so in a cartoonish way (i.e. no melodrama or probing into morality and ethics, just pure gameplay and fun, over the top cartoon violence, etc.), but everyone was enamored by the idea>never developed a real identity of its ownbut it does have one. you're just too in denial to acknowledge it.pokemon is the one without an identity>setting is just wake up, capture pokeymen, become the champion. basically a generic cookie-cutter template game>people value the worldbuilding and setting more than the game itself. only turbo autists give a shit about metafaggotry, IVs, EVs, and shit>hell, in order to maximize its mass appeal, pokemon is ashamed of calling itself a video game, going as far as to hide mechanics, numbers, and figures, and explain them as part of its worldbuilding in a bid to be as non-video-game-y as possible
the fat gay pig that 4chan can't get enough of swallowing his load
>>728979838No, for example, a Jetragon will always be the deluxe air mobility pal which moves at ridiculously fast speed and rains down missiles on everyone, no other pal can do that.Felbat/Lovander will always be nice for combat because it can steal HP on damage so you can be more reckless, every pal species has a different passive skill so you can build around that skill like the infamous Gobfin kill squad + a mount of your choice, several pals fill several niches for either combat, grinding or exploration, they are by no means the same.All about a pal can be customized if you like except it's unique passive skill and type, you are given the option to do so, but making a weak pal strong is going to take some serious time and effort, if you don't do it then pals have their own learn set by level up, some have special moves unique to them too.A pal that you perfect feels special, so much time and resources go into them to not be special, at the end of the day they are not just super soldiers, but your very own special creation unlike any other because you slowly seem them improve, is not like in pokemon where you simply shit a comp mon and box it, pokemon are just stats with skins pals are passion projects.
Flopie getting eaten after geting gaped.
>>728923380because the designs are just pokemon ripoffs, they look like fanmon slop
>>728980889>pokemon are just stats with skins pals are passion projects.I find that hilarious considering a frequently voiced criticism of digimon time stranger (by what I presume are poketards) is that "you being able to turn your favorite into an undefeatable juggernaut with endgame stats via training (or eating babies, whichever you like) makes all mons feel like skins"
the new update added new pals, right? or just the raid?
>>728982478Only the raid boss sadly. The update focuse more on bugfixes, polish and optimization.
>>728982667well, that's good. palworld could always use more of all of that. anything good on the workshop yet?
>>728983085According to one of the /vm/ anons, the framerate improvements are huge, i could see Palworld running a lot better on the steam deck than it used to.>Duplicated file exists here >>728956882
>>728923470Meanwhile in Pokemon
>>728983705A suspension bridge-mon? is it to scale or it's supposed to be yuge like an actual bridge?
>>728926570Pretty much. It's kind of embarrassing how lazy Gamefreak has gotten with Pokemon>Bro check out this pokemon!>It's like a flamingo but different from a flamingo because uhhh we call it a flamigo!
>>728984637Alternatively>Check out this Pokémon we made>It's a teacup... WITH A FACE!>Thank fucking god we're the only company in the world Disney can't sue
>>728984637It has it's neck tied into a knot, more like a flaming-ack
>>728984637you need a soul to appreciate lawn flamingos and garden gnomes
>>728984637>here's how we win back japan from yokai watch...>its a toucan... BUT ANGRY!
>>728923380Because Pokemon is "too big to fail".It's so well known and has such a massive fanbase ready to blow the pokemon company at any moment. Half the people who love pokemon would rather die than to explore someone elses take on the concept because brand loyalty is a scourage in this landscape.Fuck nintendo, Disney, and pokemon fags.
>>728923380Purely for nostalgia. Palworld would have easily blown Pokémon out of the water if it had been released in ’96.
>>728984930you need to have severe mental illness to still find pokemon appealing as an adult
>>728985502This. Pals like Katress would have dominated the mon scene.
>>728986389She wouldn't exist without meowscarada and mismagius.
>>728981762Ive actrully seen this spawn and Flopie win without help.
>>728986526Go be retarded somewhere else
>>728986526>cat and witch is a Nintendo concept
>>728986698>>728986703Lots of Palworld designs are directly derived from Pokemon. Thats the entire point isn't it? It's also why they're being sued.
>>728986823No, they're being sued because Nintendo thinks they get to own game concepts.
>>728986526Cats are associated with witches and that is a cat witch, you are an absolute retard.
>>728986851>>728986889Why do furries lie to your face?
>>728932321>750 tiCan you even run flash games on your browser you poor cunt?
>>728979839Lambchad I kneel
>>728986964You are obese.
>>728987098You will never be a dog.
>pokefaggot calling others furriesthe irony is thick lmao
>>728979154Would go great with an inventory system as well to give them guns instead of limiting those to shitty limited use abilities.>>728930043Those have always been a meme. Plus the game now leans into becoming Not!Pokemon too much. I actually want the edgy slavery and guns flavor back.
>>728923470You just described Pokemon for the last decade at minimum
Did you guys ever play temtem? What did you think of it?
>>728987598Too multiplayer focused.
>>728987598>what if we take the most autistic part of pokemon (iv grinding), use newground tier monster design, and slap pastel ugly coloring into this mmo?>this is what pokefags totally wantIt was pathetic
>>728987598>They/themI will make myself clear, I think the art style is shit.
>>728986526Making a sexy witch cat with thick thighs is not an exclusive feat to pokemon, in fact Katress has a REAL ASS compred to meowscarada.
>>728932891they've had multiple 06 moments
>>728987934it's too bad that pokefags are such slop consumers that the IP stated afloat throughout
>>728923380They are inherently disposable.
>>728984083scaledespite having a dynamax the literal bridge is tinylame really
>>728951757Duel Masters was already WotC. It was meant to be a Magic stand-in for kids too young for Magic.
>>728986964>nintendo think they own the concept of throwing a fucking ball that captures things. meanwhilewe have the ghostbusters. they tried to skirt that by saying "in a video game" like the slimebags they are, so people dug up ultraseven>nintendo think they own the ability to summon an ally by throwing a ball with an aiming reticleabsolutely retarded. that's literally any game that lets you throw grenades negates this>nintendo thinks they own context-sensitive buttons (e.g. when you use the same button to switch mounts depending on terrain), a ridiculous claimconker's bad fur day literally has "context-sensitive" pads. you can't get any more on the nose than thatnintendo are fucking clowns and intellectual property courts are a sham
>>728979839Imagine the fluffiness
>>728923380The designs are alright, but the gameplay is absolute dogshit survival craft
>>728923380a lot of the designs seem to take certain aspects from Pokemon, but the game plays like a shit Ark clone and Ark is very shitty
have an oppai dazzi
>>728990739Cute. I prefer flat Dazzi.
I'm unironically thinking about buying the Katress and Chikipi plush.Someone convince me not to.
>>728923380Marketing and Timing. Remember when Pokemon first came state side there was a monstrous hype building behind it.>>728930043You know, you DONT have to do it right? It's power of choice is all in your hands, you know, that right?
>>728979839The Trust stat system got you
>>728933243you keep posting these, but they barely look alike.
>>728972332They added playable Meowscarada to Unite for a reason while Tinkaton is just an event NPC.
>>728923594>posts a sheepmon that mogs its palworld version
>>728923674factually wrong, even my normalfag coworkers played it
I want to like Palworld but the IRL guns in a fantasy setting really get my autism going.
>>728987598Worst 30 bucks I’ve ever spent.
>>728992909Its a fantasy toilet and some of the better weapons are scifi weapons or a glowly flying sword.
>>728983705I remember bringing this up to a friend who liked Pokemon cause I thought it was amusing and he got notably uncomfortable and defensive.Like, come on, bro. They can't all be bangers.
>>728991158 Too late, you're already lost. The second those thought germs entered your head, the battle was over. You’re gonna be $40 poorer and two stuffed pals richer by Friday. Just embrace it, anon. Katress will sit on your shelf, judging your life choices with her smug little face, and deep down you’ll love it.
>>728987009i can run sekiro tekken 7 dishonored 2 on this ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>728993392NTA but the mega chillet is really tempting and doesn't cost all that much.Biggest issue would likely be storing him.Would rather have a Wixen, but Katress is fine too.Though there isn't much space left on my plush shelf with the eevees.
>>728992909Some of the early journals say that the world of Palworld is some bizarre dimension that people can get dumped into
Say, what happened to the lawsuit? Last i heard, Nintendo got their patents denied or some shit like that.
>>728995737You don't need to worry Anon the threads that will pop up once one side has a firm grasp.
>>728995835I just want shit to be over with, that's all.
>>728980889so what you're saying is they're all the same, they can all learn the same move and the only thing that's different is some minor boost that doesn't even necessarily relate to battlinglike I said, skins
>>728995969Is it keeping you up at night?
>>728991158I'ma get a Katress
I just want some Dazzi merch. I'll be a good goy and buy lots of Dazzi figures to put around my room and even buy some plushies but only if it's Dazzi or Jellroy.
>>728944093>>728945348Grizzbolt is the standout to me. It draws attention, especially with that minigun. The other contenders are Relaxaurus (Official icon), Cattiva (Appears in all sorts of official material, merch, etc. Everyone knows it), Depresso (literally me crowd)and Chillet (fan favourite)
>>728987346>Would go great with an inventory systemOh shit, you are right.Let all pals wield guns in some manner.> I actually want the edgy slavery and guns flavor back.Me too, but that's gone. So they might go all the way with the whole becoming friends with pals and having adventures and shit.Let me hug my pals pocket pair.
>>728985502>Palworld would have easily blown Pokémon out of the water if it had been released in ’96.Well duh, as shit as Palworld is now back then it would have blown everything out of the water for the visual spectacle alone.
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>>728923380It worked for me.I dumped 89 hours in Palworld and haven't played a single Pokémon game in 10 years.
>>729000874owo or pecker?
>>729001038Based Italybro
Lack of things to do was why I dropped it. Okay, I explored all the regions (becomes free once you get your first swimming pal), I have seen most of the pals, and I defeated the first few gyms and did a couple of caves. So now I get to soend hours grinding to level 40 to defeat the next gym tower thing? Nah I domt think so. There needs to be actual content in the game. Things to do. A proper multi-player would be a great start.
>>728923380Lack of cohesion. Right there on your image you have 3 designs that could very well belong to 3 different games, Palworld can't figure out an artstyle it wants to go for.Then you also add the game itself, and it's a whole other vibe again, who thought these guns fit the theme at all? This is a game for the artistically blind.
>>728957196you know what, this opinion is very close to being based
>>729001719The devs went>"What do Americans like? Well they always talk about guns and slavery so let's add that."And bolted it to an arc clone.That's why things aren't very cohesive.Turns out it's still fun though.
>>728987598hated how they raped my language with non-existant made up gender neutral pronounsIt does have its charms but it also feels like it half-assed the mmo part, like they really wanted to do a solo game and got pushed into adding more and more multiplayer stuff. As such it neither excels at being a solo nor multiplayer game
>>728923470FPBP
>>728923380>Palworld being the better gamePalworld might be the better game overall in comparison to recent Pokemon titles.But you'd have to be fucking brain-dead to think any gameplay mechanic of Palworld is better than the core Pokemon battle system.
>>729001863It's so fucking funny to me that that's not even a joke.It's quite literally what happened.
Palworld mogs pokemon solely because the pals have actual soulful animations with a lot of effort put into them
>>728986964please link an article stating thay Nintendo is suing pocketpair explicitly for their mon designs
>>729004324Oh quit lying
>>729004324ENTER
>>728996191But enough of competitive pokemon
>>728996449It's keeping Palworld's relevance up when this game shouldn't be used for strawmanning twitter arguments.
Has pocketpair hinted at anything cool for 1.0 after they released the latest patch?
>>729004481No excuses, Pokemon should've had Palworld's level of interactivity you can do with your mons since fucking HGSS (a 15+ years old game) but then Black/white removed following pokemons.
>>729004950Only something that looks like a big whale.>>729000000
>>729004952And do not dare to say ''muh amie'', that shit should've gone beyond a mere Minigame when ORAS came out.
>>729004413Use your eyes and brain.
Palworld won
>>729005403..the Losing contest.
>>729005403This
Last image for deer butt
>>729005894They really struck gold with her design.
>>729004324Palworld's animations suck ass though.
>>729005972Celesdir is just Sybil but feral, which goes to show Palworld mogs Pokemon when it's not pulling up ripoffs like Verdash or Anubis.
>>729006097
>>729006275Great art.Now do the opposite and draw both as ferals.
>>729005997Lmao contrarian
>>729006097>Palworld mogs pokemon when it makes inferior copies of non pokemon characters
>>729006357Palworld is the contrarian choice anon.
Plapworld... WON!
>>729006602Chinese bot reviews.
>>729006602PalGODS I kneel...
>>729006602>PlapworldAs if.Where's the sex update Pocketpair?
