Ex-World of Warcraft players, what would modern Blizzard/WoW have to do to win you back?
Far too late for that, I'm afraid. I already got my fill with private servers like Turtle.
My official checklist by order of important>Revert Warcraft 3 Reforged and make the original version available again with no bullshit>Kill Sylvanas>Revert all the tranny censorship>High Elves on Alliance>Ogres on HordeDo all of this and I will resub
Fucking die off.
>>728927941bankrupt
>>728927941The bare minimum of banning bots and gold sellers.Impossible for Blizzard.
Fire Ion for starters, he's helmed the game through 10+ years of failure and had zero repercussions for it?And the mazed players are so fucking mazed they say things like "He's the guy barely holding it together!"
>>728927941Refund all expansion era subsription & expansion costs to players, donate macrotransaction money between all former Blizzard North & Synergestic Software employees, publicly apologize and shave heads on live stream and declare all material released on 2007 or later non-canonical, release source code for all server software and other tools for their games, make all Blizzard IPs public domain, release CIA infiltration records, then dissolve the company
>>728927941They'd have to permanently get rid of all bots and prefereably flay the botters alive as well.
Rollback every expansion and change to the game since Draenor. That includes censorship. Fire everyone involved and remove the mtxslop.
Make me a kid with all that free time again ;-;
>>728927941Die.
>>728927941Revert every single expansion and change since the end of Legion
>>728928780>Fire everyone involved and remove the mtxslop.Yeah I think the only thing that would get me back into WoW is if the rights get sold to someone other than Blizzard.
>>728929091this, but wotlkactually, retcon TBC too, that was pure dogshit
>>728927941Bankrupcy, dissolving the company, passing the IP to an entity that isn't filled with Microsoft and Activision plants, glowies, and DEI hires.That's the bare minimum.
>>728927941-Heavily reduce combat pace. Now it's just actionRPG at this point. Bring it back to at least MoP levels. -Reduce spell effects. Can't see shit and just looks terrible in combat with many other players-Reduce systems upon systems upon systems that bloat the entire game and makes it confusing for new players and veterans -reduce the use of portals to make an immersive game- make 1 giant server. Get rid of servers and phases because they are meaningless now.
>>728927941mmos are unsalvageable in 2025, I will never play again. I dont know who is the original creative mind behind the warcraft lore but if blizzard gets him to start the lore over from the end of classic wow and then get someone else to modify the game into a party based offline singleplayer rpg experience with characters that have personality I would consider playing again.
Curious how nobody can actually name a change to the gameAlmost like theyre trying to deflect from their skill issues
>>728929336>skill issueswhen the fuck has world of warcraft ever been difficult from an individual skill point of view?
I cant believe microsoft paid for this slop kek
>>728929436Well starting in Cata shitters got massively filtered by heroics and raidsAnd you can see>>728929286 seething because their unc hands cant keep up
>>728929336They're banning combat addons, everything wrong with the gameplay will correct over time if they just commit to it.
>>728927941Fire all women who aren't artists, and all non-whites, and rewrite the lore and plot ignoring the last 15 years
>>728927941There's absolutely nothing they can do. Best thing I wish they could do is to just die or cancel the game, but obviously it won't happen. This would allow the community to shift into different games, but most importantly, it would give rise to a proper private server ecosystem, which I would love to participate in.Private servers as they are right now are filled with nothing but chinks, SEApags and south americans. They're the biggest garbage sinks that I know of and it's kind of sad, because again, I would really love to play some WoW that isn't a 500th iteration of classic or TBC. I also don't wanna play WOTLK for the millionth time. And every other expansion dies one month into a server launch, so that's that
>>728929336The combat is the only good thing about WoW
>>728927941F2P and I would take another look at it otherwise fuck off
>>728927941ban botsban everyone who has ever bought goldban everyone who has ever bought or sold carriesban every roleplayerban every mythic+ mazeratban everyone who has ever streamed WoWban everyone who has ever watched a WoW streamban everyone who has ever played a worgen, pandaren or dracthyr (I have a soft spot for vulpera but they're on thin ice)ban anyone who has posted a screenshot of their character on /vg/ban anyone who has ever worked at blizzardban anyone who plays a human male paladin obnoxiouslyban anyone who does temple of kotmogu and doesn't pick up the orb even though they're right fucking next to it fuck youban anyone who doesn't get that my demon hunter alt's overtly edgy name is supposed to be ironicban the guy from classic WoW who has the same name as my main on retail causing people I don't know to whisper me asking if I'm the guy from classicban anyone who owns a store mountban anyone who uses an auction house add-onban anyone who got the legendary they wanted in the first 3 weeks of original legion launch
>>728927941an expansion about blood elves and housingi'm not joking, legion remix made me realize there's zero reason to touch classic outside of hardcore
>>728927941Be able to travel the world back in time because what makes it so special isn't just >durrr you were younger!!It was the era, how the people were, the shit going on at the time, etc. Some game's magic comes from multiple different things and the era it was in is one of them.
>>728929734Not even going f2p could make me want to play this cartoon trannyslop.
It's an unsolvable problem because one of the biggest criticisms will always be met with>wow you're an incel chud, blizzard has always had female devs!!!look at >>728929256I don't have it saved but compared to the team that made warcraft 2 and 3 and the original wow.
The main thing stopping me from playing is the $90 buy in if you want the 3 day early access that used to be free. If I'm not playing on day 1 then I'm not playing at all.I'm more likely to play some form of classic without the $90 buy in because of that. WoW expansions should be $50 at most.
>>728929256this pic is so grim
>>728927941Either Classic+ or WoW 2. It would still suck but I would resubscribe
>>728930490selling out expansion launch day is the worst desecration of WoW corpse they've ever committed. launch day was an event, it was exciting. It was a buggy lagged out mess but that was part of it, you were there with everyone else at the same time. they sold a piece of WoW's soul for a quick buck and a thumbs up from some exec screeching about the optics of a laggy launch.
>>728930708This slop never had a soul
>>728927941>Publicly admit that current WoW is garbage and none if it is canon>Reset everything to post warcraft 3>More lore accurate design choices even if it means more limits everywhere>Completely new dev team that actually cares about the lore and the game>Reworked graphics more in the line with vanilla>Never add many of the current retail systems like level scaling, mythic+, transmogs, etc>Actually deal with bots, rmt, and servicesThen I will play your game
I unironically left for ffxiv and have no desire to come back.
>>728927941world of warcraft 2it's basically the same game but with some added content and a new layer of paint
>>728927941Turn back time 20 years, or at the very least undo 20 years of technological advancement. MMOs could only meaningfully exist under the conditions of the late 90s and early 2000s when technology was advanced enough to connect us and render virtual worlds but not so advanced that we could carry it in our pockets and make it accessible to the unwashed masses. It's fucking over.
>>728927941>what would modern Blizzard/WoW have to do to win you back?They'd have to kick all the DEI/SJW shit to the curb permanently + make games that are actually good and entertaining again.Neither of these things seem like realistic things that could possibly happen though. The nu-Blizzard company is so incredibly incompetent that they literally scrapped their newest survival game project that was meant to be their next big thing, because Microsoft saw how bad it was after they purchased them and went "WTF is this?".
>>728927941>Ex-World of Warcraft players, what would modern Blizzard/WoW have to do to win you back?Can you hire writers and game devs who aren't castrated or mentally ill or with pronouns in bios?
>>728930771Good for you shadow the hedgehog but this is a thread for wow discussion of what we'd like to see changed.
can they just make war4 at this point
>>728930871>because Microsoft saw how bad it was after they purchased them and went "WTF is this?".I would love to hear more about this.
I'm done with theme park MMOs I think. They're a fundamentally flawed genre.
>>728930759>Completely new dev team that actually cares about the lore and the gamehello I'd like to apply for the position of lead narrative designer
>>728930916You don't want a Warcraft 4 from the current Blizzard. They are going to rape every piece of lore and every character.
>Ban bots and gold sellers>Ban GKPs>Ban paying gold for carries>Remove the WoW token>Get rid of faction lines (Whats the fucking point anymore?)>Utilize the open world instead of making the game a lobby-based MMO>MASSIVE total skill squish. Rogue should be the only class with more than ten skills.
>>728930708That was the exact moment where I made FF14 the game I'd play for a few months when an expansion released instead of WoW because at least FF14 is still treating all their customers fairly. It's retarded to have to pay nearly double just to level with all your friends and before everyone already cleared all the dungeons 20 times to farm for loot and know how to do everything. They took away the sense of exploration and adventure that are pivotal to the genre with that 1 greedy change. I'm looking forward to FF11 private servers releasing this year more than retail WoW and I wasted 15 years of my life no lifing WoW. They ran it into the ground to the point where even an ex addict has no interest in it.
>>728930950>I would love to hear more about this.Just look up Blizzard Odyssey.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odyssey_(cancelled_video_game)
>>728931018Nobody cares about leveling with friendd you fucking retard ESPECIALLY in xiv where you're just locked in cutscenes
>>728927941remove woke slop lefty grift writersremove censorship fire the current dev team make classic plus with new team make it a "what if" as in "what if we didn't go pants on head retarded with the lore" have sylv killed by the lich king too for good measure so we know it's not going that way
>>728927941nortubel crossover
>>728927941i already got won back by classic
>>7289279411. they would have to pay me to do so2. they would have to reverse all the censorship3. they would have to publically apologise for destroying the game4. they would have to reverse every retarded change to the game since vanilla
>>728929123>retcon TBCbased, came here to say this
>>728927941WoW 2 with a complete reset on lore all the way back to pre-WC3. That's the only way I'll play retail WoW ever again.
>>728931140I care about leveling with friends in WoW a lot because grouping is faster with the shared quest drops, in FF14 it's whatever since it's a borderline visual novel while leveling.
Which MMOs are worth getting into nowadays?
>>728927941Nothing, I am not paying Blizzard anything. They could release old versions of the game as open source though and maybe permit private servers under licensing.
>>728931252Following the development of Monsters & Memories.
I played wow back when it came out raiding and all and I started to hate it after a while. Played legion which was great, I like mythic+. Also tried the newest one which I also liked. Best change they ever did was changing the flying mounts to feel like an airplaneModern wow is a much better game
>>728931252There's literally only 2 MMOs right now that are worth playing. Classic WoW or OSRS. Everything else fucking blows.
>>728930972Sorry, you don't meet the natural colored hair and no mental illnesses requirements, good luck.
>>728927941Delete everything past WotLK. Return to expansions, meaning your abilities and power EXPAND along with the world. This means talent trees that now you can combine the OP 21/41 point talents you couldn’t before. Every single expansion. Do not remove anything. Flying is permanent from max level in TBC on, every new expansion you start with flying. It’s not my problem you’re such a fucking dogshit terrain and encounter designer that it’s more fun for me to fly past all of it. Alliance hates Horde, Horde hates Alliance. Enslave. Indiscriminate plagues and magic bombs. Obscene racism and prejudice. Mass slaughter of the other side at every chance. It’s a total war for survival not a fucking mirror of ideal human interaction. The biggest problem in the story should be our characters trying to balance killing the world ending big bad with fighting the other side because we can’t put aside our differences. Garithos did nothing wrong. Sylvanas did nothing wrong. Fuck the other side.The game should actively discriminate against any culture except Western and Japan. China, Russia, India, Southeast Asia, and South America should feel unwelcome and the game should add story elements that openly denigrate those backward cultures. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
>>728931362I play ESO a lot, but it's a single player game for me.
>>728931362I can't bring myself to play classic wow knowing that Blizzard isn't enforcing it's own rules and lets bots, gold selling, gear selling, and more bullshit happen when the monthly subscription is supposed to be for maintaining the quality of the servers and desling with all that shit.
>>728930274>worgens are out but vulperas are inautomatically invalidates the rest of your post
>no vulpera bf
Make a WoW 2 that has the graphics of the Warcraft movie, I can't get over how cool the orcs looked in that film. The game should just be a remake of Vanilla WoW, but with more race and class options and slightly altered zones.
Breast/weight slidersmarriage system, including npcskeep hosting official servers but release a server hosting software and mod tools, of course with some license agreement until official servers close
>>728931372Extremely shitskin post
>>728927941detonate a 1-megaton thermonuclear warhead inside their headquarters while everyone is there, CEO included
>>728927941World PvP with dropped gear.A focus on emergent gameplay or sandbox elements to move it away from being a treadmill/themepark mmo.
>>728927941Go one day without shilling your game. Just one
>>728931404How do you stomach it?
>>728930274I was ok with the first 4 points but then you went full retard
>>728931252Excluding classic or old school versions, wow or ffxiv. Ignore anyone telling you gw2, eso, or other shit like that is worth playing. They're crappy themepark solo mmos with 3 buttons
>>728931252The problem is that every game now demands a full transaction of time from you. Every game has a battle pass, daily log-in bonuses, aggressive "keep playing or you miss out on this" reward structures, FOMO, etc. The vast majority of gamers are simply UNABLE to play more than one of these games at a time.This presents a real problem for MMO developers as a not insignificant chunk of their market has been stolen by gacha games like Genshin Impact, especially in international markets, which are F2P and still make billions from whales and losers who want their waifu PNGs.
>>728927941Fix the visual bug in REd Ridge with the bravo field kit.Bring back the old view distance a la 2010.No more chat monitoring. NiggerTrannyFaggotRetarduse of these words are actively encouraged wherever applicable.
>>728935167And also, many of these games are available on mobile devices too. Subscription based MMOs are a dead format.
>>728927941Permanent Wrath server. Or just remove 90% of the nonsense from modern wow. There is too much stuff.
>>728931372Extremely based post
>>728927941Return the vine of TBC/classic
>>728927941WoW was best as a slower paced, unsolved, open world, server locked experience built on the War3 setting. the game being more tedious and slower encouraged getting to know other players and the game really lost something when it lost that chance of running into some random person you helped with an elite mob or quest 10 levels back in a new locale. the game is just a menu and lobby based ARPG loot game, even if they did supposedly sand off the friction a bit in the last few years it just is a radically different game at this point.unfortunately with the modern min-maxing, action gameplay forward, late game gearing fetishization I dont think its possible to recapture that and the War3 setting is beyond mined out. its ok for things to be over, I dont really understand the need to keep this franchise alive in some Quixotic quest to somehow teleport yourself back to 2005.
>>728927941die.
>>728927941suck dragon tranny horse cock
>>728927941who the fuck wants to play hordeliteral mudhut niggers eating KFC in their designated nigger KFC huts in the middle of every zone (complete with every vendor, more quests then alliance and FP ofc oh and sometimes there is even a zeppelin or free transport thrown in) while chimping on anything that moves in numbers only despite rolling for pvp racials but never actually 1v1ing to use themthen porting into their literal mudhut nigger KFC city called "orgrimmar" more like ogreshit lol blizzard literally took some somalian shithole town and copy pasted it into wow to give that authentic nigger feel to the faction le monster races br0 check out these NO SHOES so whacky better name myself something fucking retarded like boogerbones to fit in btw get owned kid totally bg queued out of that 1v1 close oneyou want a sick capital city to afk in br0? take your pick :- literal sewer shithole with aids and feces everywhere- some fucking retarded canyon thing where you fall off and die- literal nigger kfc somali cityNOSHOESNO SHOESN O S H O E SN I G G E RFUCK YOU HORDE NIGGERS
>>728927941Seppuku
>>728927941Make a new MMO
>>728927941Bring my friends back
>>728927941There is nothing they can do to "win me back", they are too far gone and have been for over a decade.
>>728930274>ban bots>ban everyone who has ever bought gold>ban everyone who has ever bought or sold carriesThis alone would make this game x100 better (if they keep banning them), but nu-blizzard will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever do that because these bots and gold sellers are buying so many subs, nu-blizzard will go bankr... actually they just won't be able to afford another yacht, and that's a huge no-no.
>>728927941Just make a new game with hot girls and dudes that are dudes? Without this gynocentric lore with ugly dykes
Semi-AFK gameplay with some auto-play is genuinely good. Nobody has the time (read: attention span) to play an MMO and manually perform repetitive tasks.I wouldn’t mind an MMO that plays more like a simulation, where you guide your character rather than having full control over it.
>>728928307Ban dungeon and rain run sellers too
>>728937821>dudes that are dudes>"That's what this game is all about: mighty dudes doing great deeds"I miss it
>>728927941Make WoW 0.5 closer to the original Alpha version of the game that focuses on RPG elements and mega dungeons
>>728938802Doesn't have to be wow. Can be world of starcraft or something3 factions, completely unique
>>728927941>replace 20 man mythic with 10 man>remove resilient keys>actively permaban every single bot and boosterfag with no option to appeal>remove the great vault while making it easier to reroll mid patch since they cant balance for shit>scrap player housing. I know i dont have to engage with it, i just dont want it in the game>bring back garrosh
>>728927941make the open world have content worth doingdo something that breaks the gearing meta of>spam m+ until heroic raid equivalent gear day 1 of patch>run raid exclusively for tier/trinkets/unique gear with unique effects >collect 1 piece of mythic equivalent gear from weekly m+ vault >spam m+ for upgrade currencyim so fucking bored of m+. PLEASE do something new. the golden era of wow had every expansion doing something new. new dungeon difficulties, new raid sizes and difficulties, new content. for the past 5 expansions wow has just been legion with less content
>>728927941Go back in time, put all the ex-Everquest devs in a bus then drive it off a cliff. Then we could've gotten the PvP focused MMO with playable ogres and shit we deserved. WoW conceptually was much closer to what Warhammer Online turned out like before their involvement, with a more living open world and player economy like Ultima Online.Lil niggos today don't know how bad they was really robbed bruh.
>>728928196>more elfslop kill yourself faggot.
>>728927941WoW 2 set in warcraft 2 timeline with playable ogres and design philosophy similar to vanilla wow as described in their first blizzcon.>but how would we fit le story to allow players to play as ogres/goblins/dwarves etcdont care. make it green skins and beast races vs humans/elves/dwarves but have cros faction play as well similar to ascension, for all i care.
>>728927941seasonal rush servers, launch a fresh classic server but have naxx already out. servers up for 3 months and put cheevo items/transmog you can win on your main for playing/raiding , do server first 2nd and 3rd for different items to win for your account.
Ban all third worldersI don’t want to see Brazilians Chinese or Mexicans in my game It’s funny that “cataclysm” is when they opened the flood gates for gay retarded favela monkeys and “mists of panda” is when China bought the fucking gameBlizzard is a CIA asset
>>728941734>wow 2This is the correct answer I would definitely go back to play it if that came out, but you know they won’t do it because it was a controlled demolition of the gaming industry.
>>728927941fire all of the woke trannies theyve hired
Bring back my youth
>>728941734Horde vs Alliance vs Burning Legion. Quest lines take you deeper into enemy faction territories, with progressively bigger PvP lakes and more PvP sidequests the higher level you go. If you want to queue for a dungo or raid your faction needs to control the objectives of the area its in.PvErs will say they'd hate this but they're histrionically lying faggots with no idea what they want, will complain about it nonstop while also having the time of their lives playing it with the boys.
>fire every single writer on staff>replace them with only biological men, ideally white>lower sub fee to 5 dollars at most>reboot canon starting at the end of wotlkdoes anybody realize how psychotic it is that they still charge 15 dollars a month for this?
>>728942195oh look a pvp coper trying to kill another game. pvp servers always die, because they always become one-sided, because you faggots always CAUSE and then complain about faction balance, then complain when faction balance in enforced because you want to stack horde and gank lowbies, then the server dies, then you complain about the server dying and blame blizzard even though the reality is you kill it yourself, and nobody wants to play pvp, so you want to force it on people, which kills the server.there is a reason every pvp focused mmo is dead or has 5 sweats playing it. im sorry you enjoy it and want to force people into it but the reality is nobody is that interested in direct open pvp like this. learn, learn this. read the room.
>>728927941i think it's too late. and not in the sense that i don't ever occasionally play some retail and enjoy for what it is, but to steer into a much better place, i think it is. like i can say they should design evergreen systems that actually grow the game permanently and not just temporary gimmicks every expac, but then we'd still have 20 years of wasted assets and landmass doing absolutely fucking nothing, except being mogs mounts n 'chievo islands that you run around one-shotting. so by now its just, whats the fucking point. even them going back and adding housing sources to old content, it's a great choice, but it's still non-gameplay slop to do anything that isn't the latest raid or m+ rotation. it was just a bad choice fundamentally to keep adding more levels and ilvls since TBC>>728928359he's great leading the encounters team, all these years and ups and downs but it's fair to say the raids have almost never missed. but, i don't think he should be a more general creative lead, no. he was Shadowlands strongest defender and i'm sick of hearing him apologize and say "we'll do better" at the end of every single expansion because of the anti-fun systems they keep adding and refusing to change, until it's time to hype the next.
>>728943028It's even crazier since that's not even their main moneymaker, the cash shop makes like 10x the income than the subs do
>>728943302yeah because they charge you like 20 dollars for simple service like a name change that costs them literally nothing. insane. wow players are actually retards.
>>728928196Other than revert wc3 all those ideas were bad.There is nothing that can change my mind about Blizzard. They are a shell of their former selves with their legacy looming over them like a scythe.
>>728927941Nothing, I always hated the wow endgame and was only really hooked on the PvP but I'm bored of that now
>>728927941make me a teenager with more free time again
>>728927941Thing is Blizzard has become the Ship of Theseus. Almost none of the original staff members are still there. For all intents and purposes it is a different company
>>728927941Fund a couple of political assassinations
>>728927941make all old zones / raids scale to max level with a modifier system like m+
Classic +I'm playing turtle so it's ok if they don't make it>>728943743the original talent made starcraft 2 and it was a big pile of garbage
>>728943210You think you know but you don't. Its the other way around with you redditors dogpiling into anything trendy then lobbying nonstop for 'quality of life' changes that involve making every aspect of the game besides hitting loot pinatas optional. You're the scourge.Imagine if casinos made changes based on boomer slot junky feedback. They'd go broke because every time they press a button they'd win a million dollars eventually. That's you, this is what you do to MMOs and have done for thirty years now and you still are so fucking retarded you think its the other way around. It is and always has been peak Dunning Kruger, you grazers have absolutely no idea what the long term consequences of your actions are. Picrel is you. If you don't know why maybe go read a book retard.
>>728927941can I beat legion remix before it ends?
>>728945672yes, maybe, I don't know, can you repeat the question?
Playable Broken Draenei
Canonize Draenei futas
>>728927941Fuck WoW and all its retarded MMO design, bring back Plunderstorm or create a Warcraft-themed pvp extraction game or something. I'm done grinding.
>>728927941retail is way too far gonei will play classic+ when it comes out though and i hope it doesn't suck but it probably will
>>728947494i cannot stop masturbating to draenei futanari, it's getting really bad
>>728927941WoW 2 and nothing less.
>>728928196>>Revert Warcraft 3 Reforged and make the original version available again with no bullshitreforged is the original though you can turn off all the bad graphics
Do Warcraft 4 first and if it's good we'll talk.
>>728927941I'm not paying $15 a month to play a game full of mtx.
>>728927941>No subscription>No dailies, timegates, catch-up or slow-down mechanics. Game is entirely self-paced, and balanced for it
>>728937149lmao
>>728942195>PvP firstOkay, maybe he's just a regular PvP reta->If you want to queue for a dungo or raid your faction needs to control the objectives of the area its in>queue for a dungo or raid>queue>doing all of that shit just to keep dungeon/raid queues>keeping queues of ANY KINDyeah alright it's an advanced retard, he got me
>>728949378Blizzard would fumble it hard even if they directly based it on Warcraft 3's code as some sort of guardrail.
No
>>728928297ThisGo bankrupt BlizzardGO BANKRUPT!
Legitimize TurtleWoW and operate on a profit share model similar to what Jagex was planning with Project Zanaris.Turtle's Classic+ is going to be better than whatever Blizzard gives us.
Relaunch wow from vanilla like turtle wow with high elves.I will never play wow again on any server without high elves after playing turtle wow.
You can't make me go backI will never come bac
There is honestly nothing that they could do. The game is made by women and fags, for women and fags. It's not fun, and the current staff doesn't have the talent to make it fun. I tried season of discovery, and by the time they got to level 60 it was just retail wearing a classic face mask so I quit.
>>728927941remove or heavily discount the subscription
>>728955075No, they need to double down on the subscription and get rid of the MTX and expansion box prices.
>>728954629>>728954816Very organic shitnna, very convincing. Shouldn't you be adding more acshually-these-are-not-P2W shit to the store now that you can't milk 4th world retards retards with UE5 scam anymore?
>>728955363>STOP DISCUSSING THE MOST POPULAR CLASSIC+ SERVER IN CONTEXT OF CLASSIC+Shut the fuck up retard.
>>728955484>THE MOST POPULAR CLASSIC+ SERVER IN CONTEXT OF CLASSIC+That'd be the Titanforged server though
>>728927941I like ARPGs now so they would basically have to make a single player/co-op souls like or something similar.What interests me right now is the upcoming release of Crimson Desert, which seems to have a lot more combat tech than most fantasy ARPGs.
Why do people want blizzard to make classic+? It's still going to be made by modern Blizzard
>>728930274>ban botsThen mats will skyrocket in price>ban everyone who has ever bought goldBan for buying gold? Maybe start banning coffee in real life? That's too extreme>ban everyone who has ever bought or sold carriesI can agree with this, but instead you should just make something like RIO or Dota+ for Classic WoW, where you can distinguish carried players. Being carried is harmless, but trying to apply to raids and back it up with achievements you did not earn makes things difficult for everyone>ban every roleplayerI would agree, however they don't interact with raiders, so I don't know what will this accomplish>ban every mythic+ mazeratDon't understand what it means, I don't play retail>ban everyone who has ever streamed WoWNow that's some bullshit. Achievements are meant to be recorded.>ban everyone who has ever watched a WoW streamBan 99% of the playerbase, alright>ban everyone who has ever played a worgen, pandaren or dracthyr (I have a soft spot for vulpera but they're on thin ice)Well, maybe I can agree on this, these races are mostly visually appealing. Ban Belf and Draenei females too then>ban anyone who has posted a screenshot of their character on /vg/I don't think there were too many people>ban anyone who has ever worked at blizzardThen who will manage the game?>ban anyone who plays a human male paladin obnoxiouslyOnly if they're pvpers>ban anyone who does temple of kotmogu and doesn't pick up the orb even though they're right fucking next to it fuck youYou don't have to win Kotmogu now to do the quest>ban anyone who doesn't get that my demon hunter alt's overtly edgy name is supposed to be ironicOkay you're going schizo now
Can you say nigger and retard in WoW and FF14?
>>728956995>why do drug addicts want the new drug when they consume the old drug for so long it doesn't do anything to them anymore Truly a mystery.
>no flying mounts>dungeons and raids go back to having only one difficulty, (ulduar style difficulty would be fine however, where you can fight a boss differently to get better loot).>instanced content design goes back to be way less linear, with tons of weird quests, optional content and rare spawns (thing BRD, Blackrock spire, maraudon etc.>dungeon and raid difficulty gets progressively harder into the expansion but there are always great stand out pieces that last beyond their initial raid tier.>class homogenization removed, no more dps specs with insane self healing and mitigation, return of true glass canon classes to contrast tankier classes.>pvp ttk made much faster, remove relevance of arenas beyond being a mini game, refocus on creating battlegrounds the primary way to pvp. Remove dampening and balance healers appropriately.>make the open world wayyyyyy more dangerous with optional elite/group areas.>remove wow tokens and hire GMs to actively police betting and RMTNone of these are practical or realistic, and I realise this makes me sound like I just want to play vanilla again, but I've already played the original vanilla and private servers, and retail will probably never appeal to me again so it is what it is.
>>728957982In WoW you can probably say to your guildmates or friends who won't report you, but in global chat you can be reported even for a controversial opinion (no swearing).
>>728958183People will optimize the fuck out of it, think of BRD Detention Block runs: where only 1-3 sub-areas of the entire dungeon are cleared.
>>728958256Didn't someone get permabanned for saying the word "trump"? I don't even think it was talking about Donald Trump. That might've been turtlewow tho
>>728927941Blizzard is dead, it's all Activision and the people that made WoW are all gone.>what would modern Blizzard/WoW have to do to win you back?Go bankrupt
>>728945672pls answer thisi dont wanna waste 13$ :V
>>728958436Maybe it wasn't Blizzwow, because you can appeal bans like this. However when I tried to appeal my week long chat ban, there was no response.
>>728958838You're right I looked in the archive it was turtlewow
>>728958420I would still prefer this to the linear dungeons we have now, maybe it's because I never played the classic re-release, but in retail vanilla and nostalrius my guild would frequently run the more obscure dungeon content if people needed it. But I frequently get the idea there was a major culture shift with official classic based on player anecdotes.I still don't believe that somebody smart couldn't come up with a way to incentiveize running the more obscure parts of a dungeon, and that just throwing your arms up in defeat and turning every dungeon into a corridor is lazy as hell.
>>728955363uh oh blizztranny melty
>>728950739What gay retard tactic is this supposed to be? Attacking the content of my previous post retroactively instead of addressing the rebuttal to your spergy keyboard flailing? Are we doing 4D turn based PvP now? Try again nigersaur.
Live stream public humiliation and firing of everyone currently working on it, hire exclusively racist 50 year old men.
>>728955145I'm not paying $15 a month to play this shit anon the microtransactions are unnecessary to play the game and expansions don't release too often for the price of those to matter
Hold a moonman event in game where you cleanse the entire game. Fire all alphabet people. Havent played since cataclysm but they should probably revert back to classic and add the good parts from the expansions.
>>728960226Then fuck off. Stop ruining my MMORPGs free2playscum.
>>728959927and 1 brownmeand i will teach them to learn how to love and forget how to hate
>>728927941Doesn't matter they won't do it.Let it die.
>>728927941get at least a 7/10 girl or "girl" to suck my dick to completion every day for the next year.
>>728927941make another sod and i will resub for a month or 2
>>728927941literal self-immolation
nothing
>>728931252there's a new one I just got, its a mix of classic wow and osrs, called Trolddom on steam
>>728929256Glowies, anon? The rest I get, but glowies?
>>728966380>looks worse than EQ99grim
you'll never get me back, fuck off
Nothing. It's over for me. I spent over 5000 hours in that game, and I haven't touched it since 2014. No matter what they do, I'll never return. The old staff is gone, and the new one will never be able to produce a new game that will appeal to original warcraft fans. Just let it slowly rot away
They literally cannot because I have enough self-respect to not play anything by Blizzard after Activision bought them.
>>728956995If people were smart they'd demand blizzard to permit private server licensing so they finally let players make a better game than them and let pserver community blossom properly
buy an ad maye
>>728968810I'm smart >>728954629
>>728927941I think the setting is too far gone at this point, and I don't believe blizzard will ever actually try to balance the game properly nor maintain it in the form of actually stopping botting and run selling.I don't think there's anything that actually could bring me back to giving blizzard money at this point, I'm sorry.
>>728969250>I think the setting is too far gone at this pointThis game has been going on for far too long. You have to end it at one point, otherwise it will turn into an incoherent mess that it is now
>Ban botting. Make the punishments for botting severe, e.g. 1 month ban for first offense, permaban for second>Ban run-selling. Mythic raider sweats can cry about it.>Remove the WoW token.>Either disallow gay shit outside of private group chats, or allow for criticism of it in public channels. None of this having your cake and eating it shit.>Undo the 9.1.5 censorship, or, at the very least, put in an option to revert the changes on the user's end, a la the option to change the in-game spider models>Lessen the degree of vertical progression. BiS gear shouldn't be regularly getting outclassed by low-end gear in the next raid tier.>Turn the monthly cap on trading tokens into a soft cap, where it can be grinded indefinitely at a slower pace beyond said cap. Also, start throwing more cash shop items into the trading post.>Undo all the power level infinity +1 cosmic forces bullshit. They had a golden opportunity to do this at the end of Shadowlands, but they blew it. Return to lower level fantasy, a la earlier eras of WoW>Add a proper fan server framework, or better yet, an official WoW server creation/modification tool.
>>728927941i left in legion when they fucked up a number of class designs. they called it 'class fantasy' back then.Looking back, I got out at the right time. Things have only gotten worse. also, I don't care about mmo's anymore.
>>728959867The point is nothing you do to improve the game matters if you can still queue into PvP or PvE content. Fix that and start again. Or don't. You clearly don't know what you're talking about when it comes to MMOs.
>>728968040You haven't heard?
>>728968173eh its still early and its got potential, more than enough reason to give it a try
