Why? Shit is like 30 years old and has nothing to offer outside of novelty.
>>728928073Chrono Trigger was the E33 of 1995
>>728928115it's the greatest game of all time
>>728928178>it's the greatest game of all timeWhat does it do better than games that came out after it?
>>728928115This attitude is why no one makes good games anymoreNow, E33 on the other hand took a TON of inspiration from classics such as Chrono Trigger and FFVII
>>728928073>has a system where your placement on the actual battle map matters>no way to actually move your characterChrono Trigger is the most mid RPG on the snes
>>728928265Not OP but time travel stories are pretty fun when done right and Chrono Trigger leans into ontological paradoxes in the correct way that is consistent and makes sense in it's own setting and world logic with a few memorable moments that justify the use of history manipulation as a plot device. It's hard to do usually and almost impossible to do without some kind of contradiction but Chrono Trigger never takes you out of the moment.The different eras are all great and well used too, the characters you meet from different eras work well, and the reveal when you eventually get to 12,000 bc is very cool, especially if you're playing blind.It's also quick, never outstays it's welcome. Great pacing, something JRPGs have really forgotten about in recent years.
>>728928265>StoryDid what no other gaming studio or franchise didn't have the balls to do even if the main twist becomes somewhat inconsequential by the end of the game. The story itself is a straight-forward straight-cut by the number time-travel romp that incorporates plenty of cliches and even though it does have a "The bad guy wins" motif which was an extremely popular plot at the time, all is forgiven because>Pacingit is the most snappy, polished, well paced game of all time. The "levels"/dungeons are just long enough to get a full experience without overstaying their welcomes with plenty of secrets and collectibles to get along the way. The game is famously easy in the sense that you don't every get hit by classic JRPG pitfalls like needing to grind or getting too lost because you are never in one place long enough to get bored and the game heavily implies where you need to go and what to do each chapter to advance the game/plot. It's a full 7-course fine-dining experience where everything is balanced just right and leaving you amply satisfied by its succinct conclusion>CharactersThe characters are vastly distinct, each with their own unique strengths, uses, and development. Each one is viable and party composition can vary widely with all comps being mostly valid>BossesAre all great in this game and are all unique requiring different tactics to beat in every encounter. While backtracking and overleveling can break some of the difficulty in the encounters, the last few fights can still be difficult even if overleveled which is just a testament to how well designed the fights are. The last boss has a twist you don't even see coming if you're playing blind and is quite smart. Some of the bosses even require you to interact with random NPCs beforehand to learn their gimmick which brings me to my next point
>>728928265>>728929685>WritingEvery NPC has an excellent script in this game, even random inconsequential ones. It's a treat actually talking to throw-away sprites and characters because they all either give you direct instruction or flesh out the game world and story in some way. Dialogue is not wasted in this game even touching briefly on philosophical concepts, even if only thinly. The build up is good, the suspense is palpable, and the conclusion is satisfying>Musicis perfectly balanced and elicits the correct emotions at pivotal points in the story. There are so many tracks in this game I will literally just boot up on YouTube and listen to randomly; and the last boss theme? I've never heard a song in any game that more accurately captures the spirit of "The fate of the entire world literally hangs on the balance of this last fight" than that fight>RewardThe game wastes none of your time, straps you into a snappy by-the-numbers time-travel romp, yet adequately rewards you for interacting with the world in a way not many games, especially modern ones, do. The writing is good albeit maybe a little shallow and predictable until the last maybe 1/3 of the game where it takes the shackles off and lets you do whatever, whenever, in whatever order you please in order to prepare for the final dungeon/bosses, all the while dumping the best gear in the game for your characters on you while completing each side-mission or optional extra. It also helps that despite being mostly inconsequential to the final plot, all the optional extras expand on the characters/backstories in some way leading to a deeper emotional resonance and connection that is hard to make with modern games
>>728928265>>728929685>>728930130Chrono Trigger is a game that still can still make me FEEL something, even on repeat playthroughs. It has heart and soul, which is something a lot of modern games lack. Everytime I boot up the game for another play, I ask myself "I already know what happens and what to do, where to go, and who to talk to: am I really playing this again..??" and by the end I'm always reminded why it's not just one of, if not my all time favorite game ever, but maybe and definitively the greatest game of all timeman I love this game
>>728928073I've already played it at least five times, I honestly don't feel like it. Gimme another year or two maybe I'll be in the mood for a nostalgia romp
I will however post some random artwork I have
This was a sweet moment.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTcoGEN-AZ8Glad ya didn't stay vaporized, spikey.
Every time you ask CT fanboys which parts of the plot are supposedly "so good", chrono compendium sees a 3000% spike in traffic
>>728928073Sex with Lucca
I'm sure there are games that did the multiple endings gimmick before Chrono Trigger, but I assume it's one of the earliest ones. Maybe one of the first RPGs at least.
>>728930334Ayla should have showed up and clubbed him to death while yelling NO CHANGE RULE OF LIFE
>>728930546But she needs him in case the Reptites make a comeback! Thunder stun all dinosaur, you know?
>>728930340you're thinking of Chrono CrossTrigger is not that complex or deep of a game to warrant wikidumping. In fact it is every straightforward and easily digestible while also equally respecting your intelligence; it's very easy to explain the plot to a 5 year old and them to understand the concept
>>728930442Everyone wants to bang Lucca but I was always more of a Marle guy.
>>728930340it's not that the plot is "so good" it's just that the execution is so good that you can't help but love it
Don't change history, kitty
I can't get started on a replay for some reason. I get like 30 minutes in and I just want out. The characters and gameplay are just so dull. If you already know the plot it doesn't have much pull.
>>728931063the beginning of the game is rather dull on repeat playthroughs but the final chapters are so good it's worth it. It's been described as a classic "get 10 hours in and drop it" game but those that push through are handsomely rewarded. I just finished my first replay in 5 years and I'm already ready for NG+I want those endings
>>728928073Play the superior Chrono Cross instead.
Desertification? Not on my pocket watch
>>728931443story is too convoluted even if I enjoyed itI did appreciate the attempts to tie the stories of each game into each other more with the optional extras the DS added to Trigger, even if most hated it
>>728928115Same as you except without the novelty unc
>Chrono CrossEhh, nah
Based Dalton, dabbing on you through time, space, and fate itself.
>Despite multiple re-releases the SNES version remains the only good releaseWhat the FUCK how hard is it to make a working port?
>>728928073Okay, but I can't figure out how to do the rest of the DLC quests alone. I need a guide!
>>728931646>story is too convolutedThats what makes it good. Games that actually make you think.
>>728931969I guess you could say it's ... timeless.
>>728930785>>728930785parts of the plot named: 0QED
My wife.
>>728928073Chrono Trigger is an honor student of JRPGs
>>728932158>time... is complicatedWait really? Is that why I can't smash doe?
>>728928073I helped my little brother beat it in 1999 on zsnes before being sent to boot camp.
>>728932158Her theme is prettyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hEm59AZvAs
>>728932579I really liked Queen Zeal's dialog in the English version. The whole evil speech she gave before her battle. I remember thinking that was the coldest, coolest shit when I was 11 years old.Looking back I liked a lot of the English dialog changes in this one. Not going too literal on certain things, like when the Enlightened One talks about the nature of Lavos power in the room with the Mammon Machine, gave things a much more mysterious and heavy feel at times. Also, Azala's "we have no future" line. She was talking about the fate of the reptites but as you watch Lavos fall to the Earth, it could just as easily augur the fate of all living things from that point forward. Good stuff.
>>728932037would've been acceptable if the game actually fleshed out its story and intertwined it into the gameplay with environmental storytelling instead of just relying on infodumps at every turnthe closest we get to impactful visuals and gripping story is noticing Leene square is the center of the Dead Sea after Miguel's fight
>>728932513Yeah. That whole part of the game was my favorite.
The remake better have romance options.
Imagine the smell.
>>728930724Ayla>Marle>Lucca
>>728928115This you anon?
>>728931825>>728931882Trigger had you feed a whole army with one ham, so you have no right to complain about any plot development.
>>728930442Fuck off she’s mine, I love Nerdy Repair Girls
>>728931969>multiple re-releases>original is still the bestI can think of another example, Sonic Adventure
>>728931969I honestly prefer the DS versionmostly because the UIs aren't squished and it has full equipment names
>>728934959I just cannot believe nobody, not the developers or fans, has patched the Steam version to fix the music bug.
>>728931638Lucca is so fucking good.
>>728932579Did you know the Black Omen is actually a Spaceship and not a Floating Tower?When you think about it, it’s long corridors go mostly north and only have two elevators. One of the devs was inspired by Star Wars.
>>728928073Played it this year with beating all the omen castles and every quest outside of the DS additions, CT was a good about 7.5 game for me, would've been 8 out of 10 if Ayla had a dedicated side quest, she felt too left out of the whole group because of lacking story for her. If the gameplay wasn't as dated could've been an 8.5-9/10 for me. Good game.
>>728928073Every time I start playing it I drop it
>>728934704>complainNo I just hate it. It's not even the plot point I dislike the most in Chrono Cross but I'd rather not get too into it. I don't want to get into arguments about CC, it's as tedious as the game was
>>728935256I've always seen the Black Omen as a Star Destroyer and not an evil tree. I also never saw Emperor Gestahl as a doggy when I was a kid, always an old man with a mustache and a funny hat
>>728935215She's such a total bro that she'll rebel against the kingdom she grew up in just to break you out of prison
>Frog character is named Frog>Robot character is named Robo>Mage character is named MagusReal clever stuff right there.
>>728936157>Frog character is named FrogHis name is Glen actually.>Robot character is named RoboHis name is Prometheus actually.>Mage character is named MagusHis name is Janus actually.
>>728936157Those aren't their real names though. In Frog and Robo's case they're more like nicknames and in Magus' case it's more of a title.
I just want them to be happy
>>728936269Shut up, Nerd! (that should have been your name)
>Bought Chrono Trigger complete in pristine condition for like $50 in 2003>Check the price of it now
