>>728940280
Is a thing

>>728940280
Nigga im so terminally online i have burnin on LCD screen
No joke, LCD screen got 2 types of burn in
Over taskbar area of windows10 and from "settings" of terraria

It was never a thing unless you left it displaying the same image for 500 hours with not interruption.

>buy an oled
>start using your monitor less, less doomscrolling, going outside more
win win situation

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miniLED monitors are affordable now, there's no reason to get an OLED monitor.
Yes I'm aware of the difference between miniLED and microLED.

>>728940372
LCD screens don't burn in, they can have image retention though... But I've never seen that on anything that isn't laptop screen. In any case, it goes away eventually if you stop displaying whatever is stuck on the screen.

>>728940280
It's not really a thing. I've had three for over three years each now and none of them have any burn in. Recently tested too with a tool similar to what you posted. A vast majority of games these days minimalize HUDs or don't use incredibly bright colors in them, dark mode is extremely popular, and if you're terribly concerned then use a screen saver after x minutes. Really at this point, anyone still claiming it's a massive deal either left something on their screen for hundreds of hours without break or turning it off, or is too poor to afford one and is just coping. Best upgrade you'll ever get.

>>728940463
not where I live
gonna get an oled and hopefully by the time that thing dies mini led will destroy oled

If it was fixed the marketing would be all over it.
They'd give it a new name, like DOLED for durability or some shit, start a campaign on how bad the old tech is - barely lasting a month and what not and how the new one also looks better etc. Printed all over boxes, all of your run on of the mill tech bloggers would have a video about it etc.

So no, it's not fixed. Buy for media use only, use wear mitigation, plant for replacement and secondary use few years in.

It's still a thing
don't believe anyone that tells you otherwise

I'd still recommend OLED though if you get a good price since 3k for around 4-5 years of OLED screen time (if you use it a fuckload) is worth it

>>728940582
Desktop 27 2560x1440 LCD
Bottom of both screen is "darker" like smudges in area that task bar covers and you only see it if you make taskbar dissapear
Its always there even if monitor is turned off for a week
white "settings" from terraria is indeed image retention and it only happens if i play it all day long

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OLEDfags always make me laugh when they call people poorfags for not owning one but will jump through schizophrenic hoops to make sure they retain theirs as long as possible.
>Yeah if you don't own an OLED you're basically poor
>Oh to prevent burn in, I: make my wallpaper a dark as my soul jet black wallpaper or use some Reddit-tier wallpaper engine generator. I hide my taskbar and use dark mode and have the brightness set to 20 too!

Just turn your brightness down, have your PC display shut off after 5 min of not using it and occasionally resize your windows if you're doing something other than gaming. Burn in will happen eventually, but by the time you notice it'll be in 5 years and with how fast the tech is improving it'll be way better and you'll probably buy a new one anyway

>>728940785
i still use the same monitor from 10 years ago. monitors are the last piece of equipment to replace if you bought a good one

>>728940785
I'm convinced they are marketers

>>728940280
it's a non-issue nowadays. i hope you didn't buy the original psvita like i did.

>>728940280
not a thing if you buy a newer (2022-2023+) model
only poorfags and browns believe otherwise

>>728940949
>t. goycattle buyfag

>>728940767
Is this some kind of a monitor with local dimming or whatever bullshit tech on it? That's not burn in for sure though, it's probably some kind of an uniformity issue.
OLED burn in is caused by the individual pixels degrading as they spend time turned on. You can't get that on LCD at all because LCD does not have per pixel luminosity. LCDs use a single or an array of backlights that illuminate all pixels.
Having retention on a desktop monitor is weird as fuck though, I've never seen a desktop monitor that retains image. My garbage ultrabook has image retention but it's understandable because it's a very low power device.

>>728940280
are you gonna be using the monitor for 14 hours straight every day? Then don't buy an Oled.

>>728940280
It's still a thing and will likely forever be a thing, I don't believe the tech will ever evolve to the point where burn-in is something you don't even need to consider. We're many years into using OLED and monitors still start showing the first signs of burn-in after 3-6 months of normal, basic bitch office use. It's a fundamental flaw of the technology, it doesn't look like it's going away, we'll probably end up using some entirely different display tech before OLED has a chance to eliminate this problem.

>>728940582
I've seen retention. I use a 10+ year old screen on the side and it gets a bit of retention when displaying something very brightly colored for a long period of time. It manifests as the bright area remaining a little bit brighter than the surroundings even after the original image changes. It goes away on its own without me needing to do anything though.

>>728940767
The taskbar thing might just be something going wrong with the backlight / light diffusion in that part of the screen. I've had a screen that had something like that but only in a corner.

>>728940463
lol poor
you people really think getting a better backlight suddenly means you're not suffering from the flaws of ips and va

>>728940280
it's inherent to the technology. how long it takes depends on a bunch of factors but it's quite literally inevitable.
if you choose not to listen don't come back 2 years from now crying and saying nobody told you that you would get a healthbar burnt in your screen.

>>728940937
>I'm convinced they are marketers
used to think the 'marketers' thing was a lie but after looking at gacha twitter and seeing the publishers using 4chan posts to promote their games the writing is on the wall.
when did this site go wrong.

>>728941668
miniLED is more expensive than OLED at the moment.

>>728940280
Tandem OLED mitigated it a bit. Get a tandem if you don't already have OLED.

>PERFECT BLACKS
>and uhh dogshit greys with lines but we won't mention that
thanks oled cucks

>>728941567
About taskbar darkening area
Lets suppose a hypothetical that im retard who sprayed windown cleaning liquid directly on screens and just wiped it
If in that hypothetical no one would ever do situation, is it possible that that would explain darkening of the bottom of the screens but nowehere else?

>>728940280
Anything that uses phosphors will always have burn in risk.

>>728940767
The only way you're burning in an LCD is if it has local dimming and you burn the backlighting through uneven wear. Old non dimming LCDs will never burn in because they use edge lighting that is always on and wear evenly.

>>728941370
>some entirely different display tech before OLED has a chance to eliminate this problem

The new tech will still burn in. Anything where you emit light directly from a pixel will burn in from uneven wear.

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I just bought an OLED and don't plan on hiding my taskbar :3

>>728941789
that's microled and it's complete unobtainium. a 110 inch tv costs $30k
miniled is literally just an ips or va monitor with a better backlight

>>728942379
>miniled is literally just an ips or va monitor with a better backlight
i kneel

>>728940280
Burn in is still a thing but not terribly concerning.
For most people it's not gonna be a problem for a while, but if you plan to use it for 8+ hours on excel/docs followed by playing one single game as a second job after I wouldn't recommend one.

>>728942304
retard
it's a waste of precious vertical screen estate and that info does nothing 99% of the time

It's not a thing anymore unless you are very careless.

You will only experience burn in within 5 years if

>Play the same game with static hud for 5000+ hours(Bad if you're an MMO player or a competitive shooter player possibly)
>Leave the screen on max brightness for hours daily not using it
>Watch a lot of News.(static elements)

>>728942304
i'm using lcd and i hide my taskbar

>>728942379
I know what I said retard.
miniLED (YES miniLED, not microLED) is more expensive than OLED at the moment and it's a better technology than OLED.

>>728940280
Burn in was a problem with CRT monitors and televisions too, yet I don't recall there being as much panic over it as there as for OLEDs. Why is that?

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>>728942742
>miniLED (YES miniLED, not microLED) is more expensive than OLED
it's objectively not
>and it's a better technology than OLED.
until you want to play games on it lmao

>>728942553
>vertical screen estate
Not that anon but put it on the side, dummy

>>728942553
you're so mad over 40px

>mini led
>Move cursor around in windows has a lit square following it
Nah
1440p qdoleds are way more affordable now it's a no brainer.

>>728943010
why have it at all
what benefit is there to all that irrelevant shit taking up space

Why dont you read fag:
https://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/longevity-burn-in-test-updates-and-results

>>728943025
you're supposed to be retarded by using light themes and blinding yourself with max brightness
because that's apparently how all insecure mini led cucks use their shit to gloat over oleds

>>728942823
Because it was completely different? Burn in on oleds is going to happen 100%, no matter how you use it and the only way to avoid it is to never use your screen. How you use the screen will only affect how long it will take you to notice something is wrong. There is no panic either, it just sucks when you get it because oled screens look really good until you notice the burn in. Looks fucking nasty once you notice.

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>>728943307
>he boughted a oled monitor is getting trolled on miniLED chads
LMAO

>>728942304
it's fine. you'll just have to run "burn in fix" videos over night, from time to time

>>728943472
>chads
lol
the entire miniledcuck personality revolves around coping with shittier screens due to being poor and waiting a decade for screens that cost 20x as much as oleds to come down in price

>>728942304
>leaves the search bar visible
I can see why you bought an OLED monitor.

>>728943635
haha holy shit bro
why are you so mad?
enjoy your OLED monitor instead of seething in these threads
every reply you make is another drop in the purchase regret bucket.

>>728943004
My reaction time is 200 ms
I don't think 1-5 ms matters

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>have 2 monitors, IPS and OLED
>turn OLED on when playing a bideo game
>turn OLED off when not playing a bideo game
>will last until well after i'm ready to get a new one anyway because keeping the same monitor for 7+ years is for retarded thirdies

>>728943873
it's that many milliseconds more to transition between every single frame

>>728940280
it's a thing but if you have an OLED from like the past 5 years they have techniques to avoid burn-in just don't keep it on a still image for a billion hours and you're safe.

takes forever to burn in these days (pixel shifting, auto pixel cleaning, etc), but it will happen. i autohide taskbar and just use a black background and minimize all windows when i'm not using them.

>>728943886
>he has to ration his OLED monitor out of fear of burn in
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHA
imagine buying an OLED monitor and having this nagging feeling constantly annoying you whenever you use your computer.

>>728943886
>>will last until well after i'm ready to get a new one anyway because keeping the same monitor for 7+ years is for retarded thirdies
the jews have trained you well

>>728943810
yeah, i will
i'll keep using oleds until microleds become commercially viable
while you will have spent a decade coping with miniled and still bitching about microled being expensive since by then buying an ultra durable oled will be more cost effective than a microled

>>728944184
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
keep replying bro

>>728943004
I have that AOC monitor that is at the bottom of that screenshot and is the best monitor I have ever bought(ed) and only cost £250

>>728942183
>The new tech will still burn in.
Maybe, but how quickly? Will the screen rape start showing up after 3 months of document editing office use? CRTs also burned in but they were still orders of magnitude more resilient than modern OLEDs and nobody was willing to do crap like remove wallpapers, use dark themes everywhere (they weren't even a common thing back then), make the taskbar disappear and so on. People just used them normally and at most had a screensaver which turned on automatically, that's it. Those screens lasted for many, many years of heavy use before showing any signs.

OLED is exceptionally fragile in any use case where it gets serious use. It's fine for your TV if you use it to watch 1h of full-screen video in the evenings or something.

>>728942030
No idea, maybe? You're not supposed to use glass cleaning products on LCD screens, there are specialty-made LCD cleaning solutions instead. Maybe if you're just spraying it on directly you have droplets flowing down to the bottom of the screen and then seeping in-between the layers the LCD panel is made of or something. If the binding is coming undone it would probably fuck with it.

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>Buy super fast IPS monitor
>Buy OLED TV
>play the mouse and keyboard games on your fast monitor
>play the rest on your massive OLED tv from the couch
Why aren't more pc gamers doing this?

>>728944240
stay mad and brown, you entered this thread to cope about not having an oled

>>728944142
>>728944240
ponder the fragrance of the fingers that typed these posts. even if OLED's had a hard shelf life and disintegrated after 3 years, $500 every 3 years would be well worth it for how much of an upgrade OLED is over LCD

>>728944308
BAWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

I like oled on my chinkheld but nothing else

>>728942628
>>Play the same game with static hud for 5000+ hours(Bad if you're an MMO player or a competitive shooter player possibly)
Just reduce the brightness. The hud in games like WoW use brown and darker colors. You can only burn in if you're blind and max the brightness of the monitor.

>>728944374
stay seething
do you not feel embarrassed typing that out?

>>728944374
you live in a hut. i bought an OLED TV and my 3 year old is the only one who uses it. your media consumption experience is worse than a toddler in a human country, kek.

>>728944289
>Maybe if you're just spraying it on directly you have droplets flowing down to the bottom of the screen and then seeping in-between the layers the LCD panel is made of or something

yea this could be it, its not droplets i was kinda draining on that area, i did wipe it fast but you know those " bezzleless" monotirs on 3 sides but have bezzle on bottom?
Those kind, probably some water stayed in
Its only trully visible on dark grays, think of dark mode photoshop envorioment pr rak mode firefox

>>728944446
*burns in*
OH NO NO NONO NONO!!!!

>>728944446
you'd be mad too if the price of an OLED monitor could move you to a better village down the street but anons just casually talk about them like it's nothing

>>728944306
because it costs fucking fortune?
I'm still on my cheap Dell IPS from 14 years ago
i cant afford anything else

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>>728940280
It's a thing, but honestly still looks better than LCD out of the box lmao

>>728944540
please continue spewing nigger memes

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>>728943004
>hurr durr 5 milliseconds totally matters buy oled goy

>>728944490
Yeah, that could be it I guess. Generally speaking the recommended way to clean a screen is to spray the cleaner on a cloth and then use that on the screen.

>>728944591
>because it costs fucking fortune?
IPS monitors are dirty cheap, literally. You can get a 165hz 1440p ips monitor for under 200 bucks these days.

An LG C5 55" OLED tv is absolutely not a fortune

>>728944643
this. id use a cooked oled over an lcd any day lmao

>>728944653
>spending 20x as long transitioning between frames doesn't matter

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I pitty the fools who don't follow the technology and haven't bought a brand new, tandem, 4th generation W-OLED, for 534€

it seems like OLED buyer's remorse has set in fully

>>728944734
You're just trying to spin it that miniled is bad because 20x sounds like a lot but in real world absolute terms 4-5 millisonds is so far below human perception it is irrelevant.

>>728944801
imagine concocting scenarios in your head like this to cope
show me. show me one person with buyers remorse. the constants i see in EVERY single oled thread are:
>the people shitting on OLED don't own one
>everyone who has one says they can never go back
every single time. no exceptions.

When your monitor needs 50 types of anti-burning tech to work you know the tech itself is busted.
"saar please do not play this game we do not support anti HUD burn-in for this title yet" "saar please keep taskbar at bottom otherwise software doesn't recognize it"

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>>728940432
Based.

Matthew 13:15-17 KJV
For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.

>>728944671
listen there was some pussy coming to help her with some brochures and shit and she was like "there in 2 min" when i saw my screen was all greasy and i panicked

>>728943004
> everyone ignoring the inverse ghosting because no one understands what it is.
You people. You clearly never owned an OLED screen to be defending miniLED IPS panels.

>>728944776
I'm waiting for 32" 4k version.

>>728944874
by replying to me you inadvertently confirmed my statement

>>728945068
4th gen QD-OLED at 4K already exist and it's a better tech overall.

>>728945103
i win by default because i'm an OLED chad and i'm not some broke sour grapes faggot seething in a thread about a product i've never tried beyond walking through the TV section at Best Buy.

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>>728940785
People only need wallpapers because a blank LCD looks hideous

>>728940372
It's temporary. Stop renewing it and it will fade.

>>728945197
you wouldn't be replying with messages that long if you were content with your purchase

Unless you play games that require fast refresh, gaming monitors are fake and gay. A monitor designed for office work is cheap, has really good colors and contrast, and doesn't suffer pixel walk, interlacing, backlight issues or any of that gay shit you have to pick between when buying a 'gaming' monitor.

-t. 245T owner for 18 years.

>>728940280
it's always going to be a thing on OLEDs

>>728944776
grey banding

>>728945123
I don't know Anon.
I see everyone complaining about the glossy coating getting scratched very easily.
Raised black levels because of ambient light are also only present on QD OLEDs.
Plus I want BFI and this requires higher overall brightness.

>>728944830
>I can't perceive what 240hz should like therefore you can't either
an oled spends only 72 milliseconds transitioning between frames every second at 240hz while an ips/va miniled literally can't properly display that refresh rate because each frame window passes before the screen can fully respond
that's how fucking big the difference is

>>728941191
I had a burn-in like experience with my shitty lcd when something was preventing my PC from going on screen saver and I had left it open for long periods of time with firefox's purple private browsing empty tab

I could see that private browsing logo lightly over anything
it did go away after a bit but it was quite freaky

I get we're on /v/, but you can really tell who does nothing on their PC besides watch anime slop and play shovelware based on them hiding their taskbar

>>728945491
Affects every OLED in existance, to different degrees.

>>728945896
i genuinely hope you're not implying less screen space with the taskbar always on actually improves the desktop experience
do you suck at tiling? can you not afford a second monitor?

>>728945458
no one asked broke faggot

>>728945781
this is the sort of practical explanation most people need to get it

they think it doesn't matter but oh boy once you get higher in the hz and framerates it's the only way you're gonna get a clean picture

>>728946004
People I work with who are the most productive use one good monitor. But by all means if you're more productive with your furry futa porn on the other monitor and win-tabbing 24/7 then have fun bro

>>728940280
Non existent if you buy a good OLED

>>728945896
>he still clicks on icons like a monkey

>>728946224
so you can't even use yourself as an authority on this
explain the benefits of having a taskbar always on with your own words

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>>728945781
bullshit

>>728946574
samsung almost made one of the best monitors and then curved it

>>728944874
you've been in this thread for a while now constantly defending your purchase
buyer's regret is real

>>728946675
a slight bent is good, and women agree with me

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>>728946746
>slight

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>>728946574
Is this their VA panels? They have this very annoying problem that can only be amended by reducing the refresh rate

>>728946828
ok that's too much, everything above a very slight bent is

>>728940619
Exactly.
It's like what NVidia does every time it releases a new version of DLSS. First it's, "This technology is amazing, look, it's better than native resolution", and then a year later, when the new version is released, they compare the new version with the old one, saying, "Look how all the flaws of old DLSS that made the image look like a complete garbage have now been completely fixed, I swear!"

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>>728946574
different sources measure those things differently
also that's still much shittier than even bottom of the barrel oleds

>>728946684
OLED purchases don't need defending you delusional poorfag.

>>728947196
>overshoot
There it is. That's how they achieve response times so low on regular TFT panels.

>>728942823
If OLEDs start burning in after 8-9 years instead of 3 then way more people would use it

>>728942553
I use it for notifications and a deskband media player.

>>728940280
Yes but just buy a new one every 2-4 years. That's what everyone does.

>>728942823
CRT burn-in isn't as bad, but even if it was, CRT wasn't prohibitively expensive for poorfags while having another cheaper option available. which is why OLED causes so much seethe

>>728940915
monitor technology has gone through mindblowing advancements in the last 10 years

There is no good display
Buy IPS and move on with your life

>>728940432
you vil own nothing and you vil be happy

>>728940949
you can only say this because you don't understand why they burn in

>>728948794
and i'm still content with mine

>>728944146
the jews want you to buy a new thing every year

>>728948873
>die
>life stolen

>>728940280
Burn-in is an inherent property of the OLED screen technology. As long as the display is turned on, it is slowly producing burn-in.

>>728948915
and that's fine

>>728949079
Inheritance tax nigga

>>728948794
this is why i don't view anyone with an ancient monitor as human. you are legitimately mentally retarded if you CHOOSE to use a 10+ year old monitor despite being able to afford one. it's honestly more disgraceful than being a poorfag.
i'm not even saying you have to have OLED either

>>728942553
yah ever since i tried hiding it for my oled i've kept it because of the extra screen space, just set up a hotkey for the rare times i do need to constantly glance at it

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>>728940280
As someone who did a lot of research before buying both a 4k oled TV and oled monitor this year I can tell you YES they should be a good buy now.

They have implemented exercises into the technology to try and stop burn in. What they do is either move the image a pixel off every now and then or "screen clean" which flashs all the pixels.

Now everything that has these things built into them is to new to say they 100% work but in theory it makes sense and should at least extend the life of whatever you buy by a few years. Oleds before these exercises were implemented typically lasted about 8 years so at minimum these new ones should last 14 years but they could potentially outlast other components on the TV now lol

If you are going to buy one (TV or monitor)I recommend getting a Samsung or LG for something a little cheaper everything else is just Samsung or LG stuff redecorated(Even Sony TV's use Samsung displays now unfortunately). If you want to take extra care of your monitor do things like hide the task bar

>>728945030
I'm typing on one right now just to call you a stupid nigger

>>728940280
it will always be a thing because of the technology lol

Asking /v/ about anything is worthless. They're all those kind of faggots who will speak with authority and at great length about things that they are completely ignorant about, and never once consider how full of shit they are.

Don't buy OLED
Force market pressure on the chinese jews to advance MicroLED production. Write letters to them telling them MicroLED or no sale.

>>728946017
That shit was expensive ackshually.

>>728951880
>don't buy expensive consumer monitors to make the industry make substantially more expensive consumer monitors

>>728942823
Yeah but an OLED screen gets rekt in 1 year of office work while a CRT will quite possibly still be perfectly fine after a decade. It's an order of magnitude difference at the very least. I imagine a lot of people who aren't alright with their new screen shitting itself in a year would accept it if it only happened in a decade.

>>728952294
it's expensive because they're too lazy to invest the r&d into optimizing production, vs. just more b2b (((ai))) nonsense. force it on the suits. they are retards like you.

>>728951880
>eat shit for years so maybe you can eat a SS tier steak in the future instead of an S tier one today

>>728952363
>>728952361

>>728940280
I will never not be a thing. Organic LEDs are like that by design.

>>728952361
if you haven't indicated that you want better screens with your own damn wallet then why do you expect them to accelerate the production and take more risks?

>>728940280
it takes so many years for noticeable image degradation to happen under regular use that by the time it happens you'll want a display upgrade anyway
99% of these images are from labs intentionally leaving the display on a static image 24/7 to purposefully showcase burn-in and image retention
like getting a netflix / cnn logo burnt on to your screen would take like 3 weeks of static usage, and would also be cleared with a panel refresh

>>728953008
I'm always curious though, are video games considered "regular use?" I think about things light fighting games with life bars, or Red Dead with the Red Eye meter; these seem like they could get burnt in over time if you play for long stretches.

>>728953210
Static UI elements in video game will of course get burned in, just like any other static element. Also it's completely irrelevant how long your game sessions are, the only thing that matters is total cumulative play time. 10h with a health bar on are still 10h with a health bar on, no matter whether you did it in a single 10h session or 10 1h sessions instead.

Video games won't get you burn-in if you play them for relatively short periods of time and then move on. If you have some "staple" games you play for hundreds or thousands of hours, over and over, those will definitely burn in.

>text fringing
Disgusting. OLEDs not even for free would I use them.

>>728953865
imagine having to tell yourself this to get to sleep at night. fucking kek

>SHOULD I BUY A MONITOR THAT BREAKS IF YOU LOOK AT THINGS IN IT?
lmao imagine being so retarded

>>728953210
It's only a problem if you're playing one game every day for like a month. So if you're that guy addicted to league or CS then yeah it's not for you but I've done 50 hour playthroughs straight with no image retention let alone burn in.

>>728953584
> Also it's completely irrelevant how long your game sessions are, the only thing that matters is total cumulative play time. 10h with a health bar on are still 10h with a health bar on, no matter whether you did it in a single 10h session or 10 1h sessions instead.

That's wrong. Any good OLED will have pixel refresh/cleaning modes. If you're stretching it out then you get more sessions in between.

>>728940785
Truthnuke. OLEDegenerates are retarded when it comes to TVs and PC

>>728940937
how much of a literal FUCKTARD do you have to be to think the objectively best product needs marketers? not even marketers for a brand, for a fucking panel technology no less
you are legitimately braindead

>>728953997
>That's wrong. Any good OLED will have pixel refresh/cleaning modes.
I suppose, but that's not really what I mean. I get what you're saying, if you're playing a long video game session then you're not letting the screen shut down to do its wear leveling. What I mean is more like within a session it doesn't matter if you display static elements with breaks in-between or all in one go as long as the total amount of time the static element is displayed is the same.

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>>728949719
did i fuck up? i initially bought a hisense 50" for the same price but had to return it because there was a fucking spider trapped between screen and protection layer.

>>728940785
>why aren't you treating your cutting edge monitor that is 10 years ahead of every other tech in the market the same way you would treat one of your 20 pairs of socks
peak poorfag intellectuals

>>728954562
>What I mean is more like within a session it doesn't matter if you display static elements with breaks in-between or all in one go as long as the total amount of time the static element is displayed is the same.

Well even that isn't true. If it was then there would be no point to pixel shifting

>>728954695
>buying chinesium
lol, when will these poors learn

>>728953925
Text fringing doesn't exist? LOL! So not only are OLEDfags bad with money but they are super blind too lmfao no wonder they need to cope with wasting money on planned obsolescence tech that looks worse lololololoool

>>728940280
Quit leaving your fucking screen on static images, dude. It's really goddamn easy to avoid getting burn-in.

>>728954974
post OLED models you've personally owned

>>728954974
text fringing is the last thing you should worry about if you're retarded enough to read such tiny text without zoom

>>728954836
There isn't much point to pixel shifting as I understand it, it's just useless cope. If the static element is larger than 1 pixel, image just a 25x25 colored square or something, then shifting it by a pixel in whatever direction is mostly worthless because the pixels at the center are always static and always the same color anyway. This is often the case with most UI elements, lots of them are larger and uniformly colored, shifting pixels only changes the hardware pixels at the border of the element, lots of the pixels on the inside are going to remain unchanged.

It's mostly cope to tell the consumer they're doing something to prevent burn-in.

>>728955035
>don't work on your computer!
>don't play video games with UIs on your computer!
>actually only play full-screen video on your computer
>and make sure it's the correct aspect ratio, or you're going to get reverse burn-in on the black bars
The OLED screen is a harsh mistress.

This is the worst place to get advice on this, just go look up some empirical testing instead because people here will be misinformed and out of date.
I've had an OLED for 3 years now that I work 8 hours on and then game 6 hours on basically every day and theres 0 burn in. The only precaution I've taken is a black screensaver after a minute so the screens off when I'm not using it, and auto hiding the taskbar which Ive always done anyway.

>>728955370
i finished about close to 70 games on my OLED since i bought it last year. if it literally vanished into thin air the moment i submit this post my money still would be well spent. i'd have my new one set up before this thread dies.

>>728955370
if you got a job instead of sour graping about oleds then maybe you could afford one instead of sour graping

>>728955574
what kind of work

>>728955219
>There isn't much point to pixel shifting as I understand it, it's just useless cope

I've seen no evidence to the contrary. If anything I remember burn in being way worse before prevention features like that were implemented.

>>728954971
retard. everything is chinkshit these days, the only distinction lies in qc and at least xiaomi offers the best for chink brands.
and hisense is german, they still have shit enough qc to let a spider get through.

>>728955723
Not him but I do programming.

>>728955723
Am him, but I do programming

For HDR, I went with a new MiniLED instead because I don't want want to hide my taskbar. Did I fuck up?

>>728940280
I've had an OLED TV for 3 years and an OLED Monitor for a year and both are still fine.

burn in is just the nature of the tech, it has gotten better but it will never be solved.

>>728954695
I really dont know about the Chinese brands. You just need to make sure they do indeed have some sort of screen saving feature

>>728955074
I've never personally owned one and I never will. I'm not an idort of monitors.
>>728955203
Blind faggot confirmed lmfao. You shills are worse than wumaos with how you defend inferior things.

>>728946353
thats what i do.....

>>728956207
>admits to never owning one
>proceeds to call someone who actually owns one a blind faggot
post arm and timestamp IMMEDIATELY

>>728940785
the only thing I have is a screen off after 10 minutes without use.
7261 hours use with no burn in

>>728956207
>OLED SUCKS BECAUSE I CAN'T AFFORD ONE AND I'M TOO RETARDED TO MACRO ZOOM FUNCTIONALITY FOR TINY TEXT
why are you admitting that you never actually learned how to use computers

>>728956268
You don't need to own one to see how awful OLEDs are for anything that isn't slop.
>>728956428
I can go and buy an OLED right now but I won't. Only an Idiot owns one lol

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>>728956545
this level of cope is just sad. make sure to come personally apologize when OLED finally makes it to your village, shitjeet.

>>728956545
post your monitor

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Enough about all that other shit, when will THIS retarded shit be fixed?
VA suffers from it too apparently.
"""Modern""" technology is a fucking disaster

>>728956545
>i am le enlightened
>i chose to cry about things i don't own on 4chan

>>728956638
No. I will not jump for you. Don't forget about text fringing and the planned obsolescence of OLEDs because I won't and will remind you everytime lololol

>>728956759
it literally doesn't exist on my oled and i've tried taking it down to 10 fps with vrr on
you're repeating old memes

>>728956789
Text fringing. Burn in. All unavoidable. Cope with that however you want, zoomer.

>>728956861
what model

>>728956886
zoom in macro on your keyboard which you should have if you're not tech illiterate
and don't be poor
imagine being on your deathbed and remembering that you chose to use a shittier monitor for years out of some gay contrarian impulse thinking saving that $800 mattered

>>728940673
I'm on a sub $100 Walmart LCD that I bought twelve years ago about 6 hours a day use that I have no issues with, that price per usage seems absolutely insane to me

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>>728956886
You realize phones and even laptops now use pentile OLEDs right? Windows is just shit overall when it comes to text rendering but you can fix it with MacType

>>728956803
>no I won't post my 21" dell 4:3 60hz monitor with RGB which is plugged into my GTX960 PC

>>728957126
Interesting.
Looks like this is one of very few that has managed to somewhat "solve" the issue (even though right on their website it says "reduce screen flickering" as opposed to "completely eliminate", but I guess that's the best we can do for now)

>>728956759
list every OLED you've tried from the past 5 years. this is the most obvious thing to immediately tell me you've never actually tried an OLED and are just parroting some other fucking retard. flicker is somehow the most nonsensical complaints out of all of them
i legitimately laugh out loud the very rare times it happens because even when it DOES happen its the most minor harmless shit it's not even a mild annoyance

>>728957340
Your post comes off as strangely hostile over the situation...

>>728956759
Was never an issue if you're not playing with shit frametimes which you shouldn't anyway

>>728956861
>>728957340
>>728957435
This fairly recent and meticulous article shows you all are coping pretty fucking hard right now over the issue
Looks like its just another in a long list of OLED humiliation rituals you must perform to experience the "superior" performance of OLED
https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/exploring-and-testing-oled-vrr-flicker

>>728957412
yeah the braindead third world monkey retards on this site really drain your patience after a while

Just learned vrr flicker only happens with an unstable framerate which explains why I've never seen it because I had a 4090 and now 5090.

>>728957664
i own one. i use it for 5-6 hours every single day.
you don't own one. you use one for 0 hours a day.
VRR is not a real complaint.

>>728957730
The only time I've seen it is on DD2 loading screen

>>728957770
VRR flicker*

>>728957664
>this article disproves your experience
fucking lol, cry about it

>>728957770
Very defensive indeed
Why are you so desperate to defend your monitor's honour?

>I will play games on an inferior display because I'm worried that it might not last forever and I'm too poor to replace it

>>728957875
>honour
good morning saaaaar

>>728957931
>I've lost the argument

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>>728957931
>jeet doesn't know english

>>728957985
i'm enjoying my video games on my 240hz OLED display though? Star Ocean 2 Remake right now to be specific.
i assure you, i am the winner here.

>>728958004
are you fucking stupid? here i'll spell it out for you, Leafland and the UK are where they spell it "honour" and they're all indian

>>728958108
>English was invented by americans
You're brown aren't you

Why do OLED owners act so defensively about their choice of hardware?
Like you don't see anyone else get like this about VA or IPS or whatever else, they will admit the flaws and accept them, meanwhile if you bring up absolutely any factual flaws about OLEDs, they get completely bent out of shape and start with the personal attacks immediately

It's quite telling

>>728958108
>the guys who invented the language are all indians
huge cope

>>728958192
What flaws?

>>728958108
I just like spelling words in ye olde english sometimes for flair
Sounds like jeets live rent free in your head and shit on your brain

>>728958174
>pajeet can't into shitposting
>>728958192
the only thing telling is this objective fact:
>anons shitting on OLED have never owned one
>anons who own an OLED all say they will never go back
nothing beyond this is relevant in any capacity.

>>728958275
>americans did invent english

>>728958192
>factual flaws about OLEDs
that's the thing. when it comes to THE QUALITY OF THE DISPLAY there are none. it is objectively a class of it's own.
the flaw is the inconvenience of avoiding burn-in. that's it. if it doesn't fit your use-case that's fine. if you need to work on your monitor, don't buy one. if you play mmo's, don't buy one.
pretending that it's not the best looking display technology is pure cope

>>728958264
>>728958275
>>728958480
There is no point in even attempting to engage with someone who so vehemently believes their product is perfect and completely free from flaws, so "you win" I guess, congrats.

>>728958540
it's not perfect and i never implied it is. it is however the best looking display and there is no arguing it. it fits my usecase so i own one.

>>728958540
>the flaws
meanwhile the flaws:
>I CAN'T SEE IT SINCE I'M SITTING IN A BRIGHT OFFICE IN KOLKATTA
>I WANT TO LOOK AT 5PX TEXT AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ZOOM
>I WANT TO GET BLASTED BY 255 255 255 LIGHT MODE
>I NEED THE TASKBAR THAT DOES LITERALLY NOTHING WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR MOUSE OVER IT
>I WANT TO WASTE ENERGY WHEN I'M NOT USING IT

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>>728958108
kek point and laugh at this retard

>>728940280
It's still a thing.
It has bigger problems
Motion Blur and the extremely short lifespan are the main concerns.

OLED has all the problems of plasma and LCD combined as well as a whole list of new ones.
The sooner we replace it, the better.

>>728953975
Why are you taking your monitor apart retard?

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Rtings's result are in and OLED tvs are more resilient than any other TV types
IPS loses brightness over the years, and not OLEDs

>>728958540
LCD has flaws yet you own one?

>>728959006
>Motion Blur
crt shaders for your retro shit, they recreate your gay scanline obsession
persistence doesn't exist at higher framerates
>extremely short lifespan
you base your opinions on youtubers deliberately torturing them?

>>728959006
So why is my 5 year old oled still looking perfect?
>Motion Blur and the extremely short lifespan
What motionblur? Sample and hold blur look the same on any flat screen, oled has perfectly response time so they don't get more blur unlike any other panel types. Sample and hold blur can be removed with strobing and Oleds are the best at this, due to the response times.
You have no idea what you're talking about. In term of motion clarity, CRT and Plasma are king, OLED with strobing is right behind them (especially at 120hz+=), and then everything else sucks.

>extremely short lifespan
see >>728959127
they have less failure points overall, the biggest issue is burn-in but that's only a thing if you display the same thing on it for 1K hours.

>>728940280
OLEDs are junk. They last 2-3 years before they shit to bed. Get a regular LED one.

>>728960006
i'd rather spend more money on a display quality that won't be seen on lcds for 10 years and when it does it'll be expensive as shit
imagine being on your deathbed knowing you willingly chose to save $1500 over getting to use a better monitor for a decade

>>728957664
>This fairly recent and meticulous article shows you all are coping pretty fucking hard right now over the issue

Did you even read it?

>Frame rate swings can vary, the data provided here captures the most drastic swings, but real world swings are likely to be a lot less and so the flickering may be less as a result. We will try and comment on that in our reviews.
>Linked to that – just because a screen can show flicker in the most extreme scenarios and synthetic tests, doesn’t mean that it will show flicker in more normal, typical situations.

Stop playing with shit frame times.

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>>728941785
- moot got honeypotted (also managed to get cucked ON A HONEYPOT OP lmao)
- cia bullied/bought 4chan, using frontman hiro
- glowniggers want open access for whatever shills they choose to use
- and since most of these are common marketing agencies this means open doors for all shill ops (just remember to pay off r*pe*pe)

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Different monitor screens excel at different tasks.
The problem is most people need a multirole unless they want to spend $700+ three times, one for a gaming monitor, one for internet browsing so you don't get burn-in shitposting for hours on end or other games you intend to play for hundreds of hours that have fixed UI, and a TV for movies.

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>>728956759
VRR is a meme and really useless. BFI is simply far more useful, and well worth disabling VRR to use it instead. But even if I had no BFI (as it is quite rate, my main monitor has poor bfi) then I wouldn't bother using VRR regardless, it's completely useless and the funny thing is most people don't even know how to correctly stay in the VRR range anyway they actually just get vsync presentation or tearing at the max refresh rate lmao. That's how you know it's a complete meme, it doesn't save you that much latency, Reflex has solved vsync lag anyway, and when superior display tech like Oled are suffering from flickering then it's even less worth using.

>>728960890
It can't just be that a technology you can't afford is good, no.

>>728961432
>post talks about the cia
>this must be about consumer electronics

>>728961280
Yeah that's the unfortunate truth. I love oled but literally I don't use it outside of gaming for obvious reasons, you gotta have a work/browsing monitor that's not oled, though I think eventually we're gonna get oled monitors that are cheap enough that won't be a terrible loss if they do get burn-in anyway or could burn during warranty.
But yeah no you don't need 700 bucks 3 times, just a 800 buck oled TVs and a 300 bucks monitor will do the trick. I don't actually recommend buying recent TVs though. I'm very lucky to have an LG C1.

>>728961280
>$700+ three times
not really
a 4k ips miniled costs less than $400 and it's the only non oled you'd need that covers all the use cases

>>728952753
>what are surveys
>what are contact forms
>what are multi-billion dollar corporate research firms
stop making excuses for being a consoomercuck

>>728961912
4k IPS mini led costs almost 750 dollars here in bloody europe
I hate it so much

>>728962843
post arm?

>>728944776
I need that money to get 64GB of RAM

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bring back screensavers

Every hour, my monitor displays a popup warning me about burnin. There's no way to disable this popup, it's on the monitor itself and not part of my OS.
Despite this, burn in is not real. I'm an autist and will have the same game open for 12+ hours a day. Some of the UI elements don't move, so they should theoretically burn in. But it doesn't happen.

>>728940937
they are shitty marketers at that.
they actually think I'm going to go out and buy new shit because some indian on /v/ calls me a poorfag.

>>728963580
no you're supposed to be brown here since you can't afford new hardware

>>728940280
It's a thing and marketers posting on /v/ like to pretend it isn't. If you use it like a computer monitor you will get burn in after a few years.

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>>728963383
>images you can hear

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I have a AHVA G-sync monitor from before Freesync was widely available. It suddenly started doing the temporary burn in thing (I'd see a blur where subtitles are drawn, HUD elements and text lines lingering, etc). Around the same time it also started what seemed like backlight issues - intermittently dim and intermittent repeated flashing (sometimes with what looks like interlacing on the flashes). I disconnected it a couple months ago and haven't checked on it again yet. Is any of that something to be repaired or is it just fucked?

>>728963383
Turning off the screen is better than any screensaver.

>>728962843
>surveys
You can't be real
The same people that sell OLEDs now will be the ones that will sell microLEDs later
If you're crying about spending more than $400 now they have no need to believe you'll spend $1k later

>>728963384
>I'm an autist and will have the same game open for 12+ hours a day
What game?
and wow, it really shouldn't have a pop up.

>>728940372
Yeah but that's from 24/7 usage. I am also terminally online and I do get image retention on old LCDs.

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>>728964179
Turning the screen off won't let you fly through space!

>>728963818
90% of this board is poverty stricken so why would anyone bother to shill to you?

>>728954697
Because monitor tech is ascending quickly and squeezing an extra 2-3 years out isn't worth the annoyances

>>728967659
you're going to wait more than a decade at this rate
a 110" microled tv costs $30k
a 100" oled tv costs $2k