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>Crest has diagonal downward slash
>Players instantly swap it to something else
What were Team Cherry even thinking?
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>>728945643
no I didn't. and it hits under around you if you're close.
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>>728945643
many players beat the game solely with hunter crest
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That it would be a good way to filter megashitters immediately.
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I kept the crest and enjoyed the diagonal pogo but the second I switched to wanderer to experiment and realized it had 2x the DPS I never switched back.
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>>728945643
>You can pretty easily get the best crest in the game before fighting the first non-tutorial boss.
What did Team Cherry mean by this?
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>>728946494
>and realized it had 2x the DPS I never switched back.
That's because you're a shitter and get hit constantly. Hunter's crest is like top 2 if you don't get hit.
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>>728946610
>conditional 2x damage vs 2x damage all the time
gee I wonder which one is better
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>>728946494
I really don't get why they'd give you such a powerful crest that early.
It's absolutely overtuned and can shit on almost any boss with just meaningless button mashing
Meanwhile Witch is a bitch to get and isn't that good for the effort.
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>>728946610
*only after you unlock the upgrades
Wanderer is more consistently fun, more flexible, has the best pogo and still outputs insane dps.
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>>728946682
You clearly don't know the actual math behind the crests. Or how to even read the post you're replying to.
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>>728946696
The real crime is that you don't get Shaman until the ass end of the game, despite it being such a unique and fun crest.
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>>728946759
>top 2 if you don't get hit(you are going to get hit in your first playthrough, you need the actual upgrades and a full bar to outDPS Wanderer) vs top 2 always(you also get extra silk from attacking more times, meaning easier heals and more silk skills)
It's not even a contest
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>>728946759
nta but crying that people are underestimating your speedrunner troon crest because they aren't autistic enough to perfect the bosses is pretty cringe.
Plus as mentioned the upgrade that makes Hunter strong requires evolving it twice to reach the maximum potential, meanwhile Wanderer is amazing immediately and reaches near peak potential (discounting pin upgrades obviously) with a single early game tool you can just buy from an NPC.
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>>728946682
I like having 2x the range
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>>728945643
>>Players instantly swap it to something else
Huh? Thats not what happened in my playthrough?
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>>728946610
Pretty sure wander still beats out max hunter when you factor in crits and spell spamming
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>>728945643
Nah. It felt more accurate to the Hornet I fought at Kingdom's Edge, so I kept this moveset during all of Pharloom, except brief moments where I tried newly obtained crests.
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>>728946494
Same. Even with the double damage charm to make the game harder the game was much more manageable with it. Not going to bother with the other bitchcrests and never will, silksong is a platformer designed with specific combat in mind not weapon experimentation like other metroidvanias. Hollow Knight was similar, never understood people talking about "le builds" like it was a movie rpg game or trannyvania grindfest game
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>>728947321
Wanderer has deceptively long range, the hitbox of your slash has the same length as Hunter, it's just less wide so it looks shorter
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>>728947218
sussy computer tower
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I kept hunter crest all game because it was the most fun. an underrated thing no one talks about is the hunter crest boosted dash attack. I used it a LOT to keep up and damage bosses who played keep away.
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>>728947218
Im glad I dont live in my old trailer anymore or else this comic wouldve hit depressingly close to home.
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>>728947218
kek
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I used Hunter for the entire game with the two exceptions of swapping to Wanderer for the flea carnival and the mini path of pain above the cradle. The witch and the shaman’s movesets felt nice.

What’s good quest for a second run? I’m thinking either Architect because it’s broken as shit or beast because the rally heal sounds cool.
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I liked witch cause putting all the heal charms made it a nuke. Didn't work for a few of the more mobile bosses but it was fun when I could predict where they'd land and blow them the fuck up.
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>>728953939
Architect isn't as fun as it sounds, if you use it for general exploration you're either going to be stuck with a so-so moveset or you're going to be burning resources enough to where you're probably going to have to grind a few times just to get your tools back to a healthy stock.
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>>728945643
>keep hearing about the whole getting captured segment in the Slab
>spent literal hours in bilewater to finally get a key access to the Slab
>go through the entirety of the Slab without getting captured
>find out you're supposed to play the game in a specific way to trigger the event
>mfw i missed out on the most unique part of the game because I decided to play the game blind
I'm so fucking MAD right now
What the fuck was Team Cherry thinking?
You can't defend this shit, not even Hollow Knight did this shit
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>>728945643
I've been using nothing but Hunter, it's nice
I tried swapping it at first and one area with the red bouncy things was literally impossible with vertical pogo so I switched back and got used to Hunter
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>>728945643
Silksong would have won GOTY it every crest had a normal downward slash
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>>728954558
>Fight some random faggot
>Sudden instant kill command grab
>Get forced into this gay, boring, slow fucking escape sequence
>Can't even go back for revenge because the enemy disappears forever
I want to fucking kill Team Cherry. Fuck those faggots and fuck this dog shit game.
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>>728954558
I found the fly guard in hunters march and killed him before he captured me, but he spawned again in moorwing’s arena and caught me that time.

I think he just spawns in random areas.
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>>728954487
architect is easily one of the best crests for exploration because of how good the overdose is on top of trivializing the entirety of bilewater
red tools are also just better than magic
the moveset is just the basic one except the down attack has a charge and the charge itself is just better than the basic charge
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>>728945643
I feel like the I'm only one here who uses wanderer
It feels so good to stab so fast
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>>728954739
You literally kill the one that captured you by snapping its neck, its the one with all your stuff, and it was fun and cool you miserable faggot
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>>728956802
>and it was fun and cool
Then why did TC made it missable and not something every player will experience?
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Diagonal pogo would be good if it worked like a Castlevania dive kick and went all the way to the ground.
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>>728957425
To give you an excuse to play it again. Like 90% of players probably didn't get the alternator start to act 2 by using the back entrance.
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>>728954558
>bilewater

I took a break after trying to beat the frog for hours couldn't do it no matter what, how'd you beat em?
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Any mods that randomize the crest you start with?
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>>728945643
I didn't, by the time I unlocked the other crests I was already used to it,
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>>728956802
>NOO IT'S OK BECAUSE OF THIS SUPER COOL "PRESS A TO AWESOME" KILL SCENE
You are an easily entertained faggot.
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>>728957745
>To give you an excuse to play it again.
The issue is that the game is so fucking long, and having to replay just so you experience the stuff you missed is just daunting.
Hollow Knight never had any actual missable content and you're always allowed to go back to fight some hidden bosses like Nosk and the Collector
I spent so much time on Silksong that I honestly have zero motivation to start a new playthrough even though there's a new update
Missable shit in 30+ hours long games are never good
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>>728957745
Too bad SS isn't fun to replay unless you're a speed run troon.
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>>728958539
The escape scene sucks anyway.
The more egregious missable content is the two boss fights against Shakra and Garmond, Garmond especially since the trigger to miss his fight is so completely arbitrary and easy to accidentally trigger. HK had something similar with being locked out of Dream Zote if you let him die which you should consider otherwise because his joke tries to hard and is too shallow but that at least is easy enough to avoid by just saving him the first time you see him.
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>>728958867
Well if the new update turned out to be really good, then I may consider doing a second playthrough in the future and find all the stuff I missed

I still think it's really odd how the first game was designed in a way to not have any content you could easily miss out, yet the second one is filled to the brim with that
Almost like Team Cherry did a 180 on their design philosophy
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>>728957753
First off there's a secret bench that you unlock that will significantly cut the runback
https://youtu.be/qRgTW2wq56o
Secondly, I used tools with poison
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>>728945643
bad players switch for inferior crests*


fixed your shit thread
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>>728958539
>Missable shit in 30+ hour game
Bro... You have full blown dementia if you think any subsequent playthrough is going to take a fraction of the time as a first
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>>728961683
Kek. My friend nearly punched me in the face after I told him about that bench. Dude was seriously doing full on entire bile water run backs every attempt at the boss
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I'm so glad I solo Hunter'd my first playthrough. I'm good at making wise decisions like this
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>>728945643
>Love the default Crest
>But Wanderer is too powerful for all that act 3 bullshit
It couldn't be helped
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>>728962208
It's one of those "le epic troll" design choices that doesn't feel satisfying to discover, it just annoys the shit out of you because a checkpoint like that in an area as shit as that shouldn't be hidden behind an epic troll. Team Cherry are hacks.
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>>728948171
This. Playing against First Sinner like this was great
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>>728948235
I feel sorry for you, I just hope you're not really trans
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>>728962208
I did the full run. I felt there had to be a bench somewhere, but I couldn't find it, and I refused to give up and google it, so I just kept throwing myself at it until the boss finally went down.
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>>728963913
>I refused to give up and google it, so I just kept throwing myself at it until the boss finally went down.
And was it really worth it, anon?
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>>728964595
yes
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I found it crazy that they didn't add any skins for completing the game or some challenges
would've been awesome
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>>728945643
why couldn't they change the look of at least the weapon for each crest?
>b-but too much work for each sprite
They had 7 years to do it
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>>728961578
The only LacexHornet pictures I like
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>>728962671
Silk issue
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This "game" is tedious shit made for unemployed speedrunners and reddit queers to make YouTube videos about.
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>>728962671
If you had eyes, you could identify the section of weak wall that can be broken. I found it. Hell, I barely needed it. I beat frogboss in like 3 tries.
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>>728970401
mad because bad
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Time to feed my daughterwife her daily dose of "silk".
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>>728945643
The diagonal pogo can be pretty cheesy for bosses.
There were times were I just did like 10 attacks in a row while being completely safe.
It's harder to do it with Wanderer because you can't use the pogo to climb up larger enemies in the same way.
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>>728956680
Nah it is still very popular. Built-in quick slash with classic pogo felt very natural coming from HK.
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>>728970819
>Blocks your path
>"She's not interested"
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Skill issue. Hunter Crest is the most fun if you are good.
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>>728945643
I used reaper most of the game but then swapped to witch. The heal is tricky to use but once you get the hang of it it is probably the best one on the game. Add in multibinder to fuck even more ass.
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>>728973754
Slightly exaggerated proportions>detailed chitinous>on-model stick>just a human body but black>>>>>anime girl in black spandex with a mask
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What are you guys favorite Hornet trait?
Mine
>Someone invites her for games
>Claims she's too busy for it
>Mentione a prize
>Suddenly she's all for it.
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>>728946494
Fun > efficacy.
>b-but winning is fun, and
Winning isn't fun when it's that easy.
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>>728954558
There's a guy who made a review that said something that stuck with me that he said that I actually strongly agree with. If TC doesn't expect everyone to find everything or do everything in the game, then it's also fair to judge the game based on the limited experience you had when you play the game.
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>play game where exploration is a big focus
>whine like a petulant bitch when there are secrets that you can miss if you rush through the game
I don't get it. It's like complaining that a fighting game lets you mistime inputs and drop combos. Why the fuck are you even playing it if you want to be handheld?
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>>728945643
Reaper.
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>>728974534
I like that she beats up pervs that want to ogle or smooch her against her will.
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>>728974534
She is canonically racist
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>>728974534
The hunter notes being in Hornet's perspective this time was a great idea.
If Samus Aran was a character and not a trademark logo, they could do this in a Metroid game, but Nintendo is too stagnant and creatively bankrupt to do it justice at this point.
>this thing is a chump, I could take a dozen of them on, blindfolded
>yeah, I had sex, big whoop wannafighdaboudit?
>GOD DAMNIT FLUFFY CREATURE LET ME PET YOU REEEEEE
>I really wish this guy hadn't swung on me, he was cool

It's all very Samus-adjacent in the tone and the attitude, but again Nintendo no longer has the chops for it.
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>>728973539
Wait your turn, sweetie
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>>728945643
Hunter took a little adjusting to but it's honestly my favorite. Shaman is my 2nd favorite
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>>728976160
Hunter is my main but Witch is a very close second for me

Everyone says Wanderer is the best Crest in the game and I see the logic but I feel nothing for it
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>>728975726
This is such a bizarre thing to add to her character. Hornet knows full well the flies were all born into bondage by a false religious order that commodifies faith. And she not only feels zero pity for them she's actively working towards their genocide

What the fuck Hornet?
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>>728945643
In terms of how much I liked the crests
Shaman>Reaper>Wanderer>Witch>Architect>Hunter>>Beast
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>>728975975
>"I've already taken my turn"
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>>728945643
I'm like halfway into the Citadel and I only have the upgraded hunter crest and the reaper. Are the others really out of the way or am I retarded?
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I swapped between Hunter and Wanderer regularly. The others are shit unless you suck at the game and need those bot tools to kill the bosses for you.
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>>728976612
>What if we just castrated them at birth?
>it's not so much murder as it is preventing trash from building up
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>>728977245
Yeah that's about how I felt. I mostly used Wanderer and Cross Stitch for 90% of the game.
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>>728977245
Fuck you I love my Witch nuke
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>>728977121
>Wanderer
You need a small key to get to it but it's near Moss Grotto. You can technically get it before you fight the Bell Beast

>Beast
In the bottom of the Hunter's March

>Architect
Requires you to obtain a certain amount of tools, doesn't matter which color, before Twelfth Architect will let you buy the key that houses it

>Witch
Attached to a pretty long and involved quest unless you look up where to go. Starts by finding an infant in Bilewater

>Shaman
Impossible to obtain until Act 3
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>>728977276
The flies stole her cloak. Also she likes cute things and hates disgusting things
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>>728977626
So I just missed some of them, cool. Thanks anon.



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