https://www.gamesradar.com/games/action/metal-gear-solid-and-death-stranding-creator-hideo-kojima-thinks-we-cant-go-back-to-a-world-without-ai-smartphones-were-the-same/Several devs are offering tentative defenses of AI after the Larian/E33 news. I get the sense its use is a lot more widespread than people suspect.
>>728950137If you use AI, I was simply not purchase your game, and encourage others not to purchase it either.
Yeah no shit literally every it company uses it to speed up programming, indie ones tooIt's hard to go back to checking the retarded shit indians say on stackoverflow when you have an issue with your code instead of having chatgpt debug your crap
They called Tron "cheating" when it came to visual effects because they used computers. So it was disqualified from that category for the Academy Awards. Then several years later Jurassic Park won an Oscar for best visual effects.Really makes you think.
why does this guy think his opinions on anything matter
>>728950137Suneiku-bros, our response??
"I invented AI" - Video Godzilla
After death stranding 2 I dont believe anyone respects this guy anymoreThe myth is dead
>>728950137I still don't use AI in everyday life. Why should I?
>>728950354Who the hell actually thinks CGI in live action film is some net positive? Yeah you can look past how atrocious it is in some instances, but that's about the best you can say for it.
>>728950137Hideo Kojimba invented AI in MGS2
>>728950137>Smartphones are the sameBut i don't use AI and it's trash for my career
>>728950765Uh, who doesn't?
>>728950320>It's hard to go back to checking the retarded shit indians say on stackoverflow when you have an issue with your code instead of having chatgpt debug your crapChatGPT is just trained on stackoverflow jeets anyway, but with added hallucinations.
>>728950137Why do gayme developtards pretend like they never had tools that automate coding, texturing, optimization and model generation before? Its just disingenuous virtue signaling to anti-AI fags. Generative AI tools wouldn't even be a thing if they didn't demand it themselves as a trillion dollar industry with way more clout and influence than they like to admit.If you really do hate AI you should probably have just stopped buying games around 2006 when they started using tools to make seamless environment textures with diffuse maps from photographs. Just eat shit, you get what you deserve.
>>728950239>and encourage others not to purchase it either.Chuddha wouldn't do that since it's activism
>>728950441That's Kojima-sensei to you, you monkey.A legend
>>728950137Reminder that anti AI troons are literally troons
>>728950765Probably because a lot of shit cannot be achieved without use of CGI. Unless you genuinely believe that rubber head aliens and toy props in very first Star Trek are better than any kind of CGI appearing in next series/movies.Thing is, CGI is often a solution to problem that cannot be solved other way or said solution is too costly. "AI" is lazy solution to problem you can solve yourself.
>wemaybe he can't but i'm built different (i have a soul)
>>728951236Reminder that AIfags are pathetic cocksuckers who cannot even put a little effort to create something.
>>728951236they hate it because it allows chuds to create chud artSince artistically inclined people are almost always leftards
>>728950137he's right, but i still won't play his games
>>728951408Except "child's" don't create anything. Algorithm shits out averaged slop using data from stolen actual artwork for them instead. That's fucking difference.
>>728951351Lets see your 3D model with handmade specular and bump maps retard.
>>7289515801 Learn English2 doesnt matter, we chuds dont care, AI art is better than tranny art
>>7289517621. You're indian2. It's not even remotely ambiguous
>>728950137It's okay, Koijto time to walk out
it's over but the coping. You can't stop AI anymore than you can stop cars from replacing horses
you cant stop ai because its literally the endgame right now.there is nothing left to discover or new to invest into.
Products of AI are worthless and should be free.
>>728952035This is a retarded analogy and you luddites are just as bad as the ones screeching AI bad on twitter. The only thing its going to replace is indians because the way outsourcing works is they're given a tool kit to make content that's so simple a monkey could use it, which is why AI can also do it. >>728952249>its literally the endgame right now.Its only the end game if you consider that the 'AI as a pay service model' is a bubble that will collapse miserably and probably take entire economies with it. Small scale bespoke AI models that can be ran on one server will be what rises from the ashes and everyone will be better off for it. Its just better.
LLM's isn't AII wish we had real AI
>>728950137Imagine if smartphones were 99% pushed by CEOs and private equity groups, were obscenely unprofitable, caused electricity prices to skyrocket, and most consumers had a negative opinion of them. What a ridiculous comparison.It's crazy how many high-profile creators are being so retarded on this. Exposing how many emperors have no clothes.
>>728952249You actually can't stop it because our ruling class wants to push it, and they're willing to destroy everything to reach the AGI end goal
>>728954007Just say kikes, you mewling pussy.
>>728954260>duh joozNTA but /pol/tards are useful idiotsthere's a ton of non-jewish eliteswhat they have in common is being ultra-wealthy capitalistsPeter Thiel and Elon Musk are not jewish, hell they were raised by Nazis
>>728950441What makes you think he thinks this is some kind of hot take? He's literally just a dude talking
>>728950137Who could have thought AI would be trannies' worst nightmare
>>728954403Kill yourself, yid.
>AAA games all look like derivative slop>Game companies are all coming out saying they used AIShocker
>>728950137That's true. One must be pretty dumb to think that AI will just go away someday.
>>728950137Who the fuck thinks AI is as convenient as smartphones, or even just phones?
>>728956017The AI answer in Google's search engine has been pretty convenient.
>>728955426exponantialAccelerate!
>>728956345Nah, it will slow down. It already has, actually, just scaling the compute brings rapidly diminishing results. There will be a bubble burst once investors will realize this, but just like the Dot Com Bubble wasn't the end of the Internet, this won't be the end of AI.
can't wait for my wife
I cannot think of one thing AI could do for me that I couldn't get a lot better with royalty free websites and with about 10 minutes of work.I also have no qualms with paying people for work when I need it.
>>728951253>Unless you genuinely believe that rubber head aliens and toy props in very first Star Trek are better than any kind of CGIYes.
>>728956551she'll be AI, the smartest one
>>728956204You mean the answers you could have gotten anyways? Do you understand how bad it is to get your info from/ base your opinions on one source?
>reading through posts>grammar, spelling, completely wrong word usage>AIyeah, this is a brown thread if I ever entered into one...oh no no no
>>728951236Just call them trogluddites
>>728956648When it actually matters, I do research. But for simple questions you'd just go to Wikipedia for, Google's AI is perfect. Saves me a few scrolls and a click.
>>728950137>We can't go back to a world without alpha-pvpwelp better start using. wouldn't want to stand out and be a contrarian.
>>728956760You're praising a man rinsing dogshit off your hands with vomit but he's the reason you had dog shit on your hands to begin with.
>>728957001I have to assume that this sounded better in your head.
>>728950441>why does this guy think his opinionsit's more like he is well known and thus when some "journalist" wants to get an easy story, they contact 'Kojima-san.' That "journalist" knows that people will then read their article because, "oh hey I recognize the japanese guy and his name!"
>>728956345Exponential until it hits a limit (Which it already did)
>>728957079>AI user doesn't understand metaphors
>>728957156I know what a metaphor is, I just think that yours sucks.
>>728951351This is true. Same way reds and pinkos think they'll become farmers or poets in the Communist Revolution when they barely call a spade, a spade.
>>728951253Practical effects are still leagues ahead of cgishit monster designs lmao
>>728950137for once, he's not wrong
>>728950320>""It would undoubtedly be convenient. But then I wonder if it's really okay"I wonder why OP left this out
>>728950696Unless you want some responsive encyclopedia or just test what the "moderators" gave the bot, there is no reason to do so. it still can't dial a phone or give a blowjob. it's USELESS!!!
>>728956204How? I fucking hate that feature. Half the time it's wrong for me anyway
>>728952814>its going to replace is indiansso rape will increase in India? those poor teen poojeeta's vagenes
>>728957130>Which it already didYou'll be lucky if you get to keep your flipping burgers job in the near future lmao, AI can do everything you kind does and better.
>>728950137smartphones are genuinely a worse and more destructive invention than AI
>>728951762>AI>Trannyneither makes art
>>728956204
>>728951130lmao he thinks games were not automated way back since 2000-2001
>>728956204this guy here...
>>728956204>whoosh
>>728957493>you kind
>>728956204>i thought /v/ only had gaming shills
>>728951183and the last good game he made was 21 fucking years ago
>>728951408>"""artistically inclined""">All libtrooners do is infiltrate a medium/already established beloved franchise that has tons of creativity put into them, make sure nobody else but them have the reins to it like literal invaders, and then make tranny/woke slop out like a feeding parasite with some of the most juvenile art imaginable from calarts to vitiligo monstrosities.
>>728957968Death Stranding 2 came out this year, actually, it's just not on PC yet.
>>728958182someone post the """""""""""""""gameplay""""""""""""""" webm
>>728957968And when did you make your last good game?
>>728958224Don't threaten me with a good time.
>>728956590Personally I think we 'can' make a good AI system, the problem now is the initial hype for as opposed to keeping it sealed until it is more practical. I used to watch a lot of sci fi shows/movies and the mentioning of AI was quaint and a spectacle; now it's just brain thrashing.They should never gave those niggas money the public the 'free AI tools' to use. But hey, just like 'early access' games, what better way to get free beta testing, if you get what I mean.
>>728956204>was having headaches when trying to sleep>look it up and see the first result is ai>"rub your temples and see a doctor">fucking worthless>scroll down to former first result>low blood sugar, eat some syrup and real food">do it>headaches stopThat's the only use case where I took the time to see what AI could scrape up and it failed me.
>>728958303>Don't threaten me with a good time.*unzips (YOU)r dick* oh i'm threatening you now :P
>>728951236and AI slop spammers are coomers and brown
>>728959664not enough of them are using it, because they can't stop raping each other and the dumb blondes that travel there.
>>728950137>Kojima love AI slop and trannieshahaha
>social anxietyAre kojimafans all fucking losers? uh oh stinky I have to talk to other people I can't do that, I need the robot to talk to me instead!
bump
>>728951253I'd rather watch an actual actor with shit glued to their face giving an authentic performance than a soulless CGI cartoon character
>>728951236Anti-AI netouyo japs are different man, they will go "I hate AI slop but I also hate the Kurds/Korean/Chinese/LGBTQ/DEI/political correctness/liberals"
>>728960753>starring a repulsive trannyDirected by (((Cohen)))"When we say 'EST' we mean it's EVERY. SINGLE. TIME., BROTHER!" - Hulk Hogan (RIP)HH
>>728950137He said he is not interested in using AI for visuals/art but for stuff like enemy npc AI
>>728950137https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUdwTPxIOhI
>el espaciodad
it's going to be fine
>>728951351I use AI to fill in the gaps around the shit I actually want to be making. If I set out to make a really satisfying-feeling action hack and slash game, you bet your ass I'm going to procedurally generate the treeline that makes up the boundary of the arena so it's not just a flat surface to the horizon. I don't give a fuck about the trees, and neither does the player beyond a visual indicator of the arena boundary. I care about the 36 hit combo you can string together with these cool weapons against some kind of robot demon. You malding over me using AI to do is like malding over a writer taking advantage of the printing press so he doesn't have to produce a necessary but worthless to the meaning portion of the labor.Stay mad forever. AI shaves off the bullshit creators don't care about but are forced to put up with. Just like a tool is supposed to do.
sex with androids
>Kojima now demands a star constellation to represent his faceThe hubris.
>>728962806You've never made anything. You're too lazy.
>>728963116Throw another strawman, boomer. You fags assign whatever negative trait you need to be true to be right. AI is going nowhere and it's letting me focus my effort rather than be required to spread it thin or magically conjure a team to delegate to.
>>728963240Post anything you've made. You won't, because you're a bot/jeet.
>>728963297>he actually did it
>>728950137And he will be assimilated into a LLM that does nothing but regurgitate what's put in it.
>>728963396It's not a strawman when the only "people" advocating for this garbage are subhuman jeets. It's just an accurate assessment. I noticed you didn't deny it.
Eventually you'll reach a point where nearly every new game uses AI. If you refuse to play games with AI, then you just won't have any games left to play. Whenever a powerful new technology is introduced, refusal to utilize it will only put you further and further behind the competition. Maintaining your integrity is great and all, but the conveniences of AI are just too great to ignore. And as humans, we've always strived for convenience over all else. Almost all technologies exist exclusively to make our lives and jobs easier. No matter how bad for the environment something is, or how devoid of integrity, laziness is the ultimate motivator.
>>728963480I could argue with you all the live-long day, but it doesn't matter how much I've actually made or how flashbang White I am or if I jump through hoops to promise I'm not a bot. You'll always move goalposts, AI is here, it's staying, and it's doing for indie game devs what audio workstations and Vocaloid did for indie songwriters. It removes personnel overhead in a way that will let randos produce whatever they want. If AAA decides to take advantage of it and make their slop even sloppier, I call it a bargain.And nothing either of us can say or do will change it, so stay mad. Or maybe bother to develop a set of principles on what's acceptable versus unacceptable uses of the technology, rather than just having a melty on-sight.
>>728963523>then you just won't have any games left to play.This is already the case when everything is gay and full of niggers. Retro is the way.
AIfags will never make good games.
>>728950239How would you know?
>>728963842Didn't read, won't read until you post something you've created.
>>728950137The only game I bought in the last 5 years was silksong and I don't see that changing.
>>728963948>post identifiable work on 4chan so I can find and fuck up your project I've already announced I hate even though I don't know what it islollmaoTomorrow we're both going to wake up and AI will still be here. You are powerless.
>>728964093Thank you for proving that you're a talentless cretin. Final response.
>>728950137Yes canJust send Captain Price hack a bunch of Russian nuclear submarines and launch EMPs all over the stratosphere
>>728951253False dichotomy No CGI is better than gremlins or aliens
>>728950441Because retards keep propping him up as La Creatividad when he's an absolute fucking hack that got fired from Konami. Literally no other Vice President or big head of a Japanese studio has ever gotten canned like Hackjima.
>>728964141Sorry you didn't get that job doing environment art at the big game studio, anon. I'm sure it would have been very fulfilling and creatively rewarding to churn out space-filler visual assets. Maybe you can get a job picking fruit or something, but the drones are coming for that too, much like all the necessary jobs that literally nobody anywhere actually wants but only takes to survive.
>>728964141Oh no you don't, fuckassYou've already established you hate me, so why not go out of the way to fuck me over just to fit your narrative? Because you're afraid you'll be outed as less skilled and resort to backhaanded sabotage like a fucking pussy? You are an adult capable of your own thoughts and sensibilities, right?
He's not wrong, but also funny that he's pro-patriots now.
>xe brought discord backupHoly shit.
>a third party has entered the fray under a false bannerHoly balls, somebody's jimmies are rustled.
>>728950441He’s a Maestro of gaming
>>728950137>famous dumbass says something dumbMore news at 11
>>728963916Forced disclosure if you want to sell your game on Steam
>>728966185That is cringe af
>>728966805So is this post.
>>728951351I use AI to upset you
>>728967038>someone told me to stop rolling around in pig shit one day, so i decided to do it more to piss him offfukken owned
>>728950239Rejecting/Ignoring something is always valid option.
>>728968281 That's true, but don't act like you're making some philosophical power move by opting out. Ignoring something doesn't make it go away, it just means you're choosing to stay uninformed or disengaged. Sometimes valid, sometimes just cope.
>>728968398>Hideo Kojima: "we can't go back" to a world without AII say we can all rape Hideous Fungjima in the ass
>>728968398>don't act like you're making some philosophical power move by opting out. Ignoring something doesn't make it go awayOf course it goes away. You no longer experience it, so it goes away. If i don't engage with it, i don't experience it, because everything need my attention to exists in the first place. Simple as. >muh uniformedWho fucking cares
>>728963523>then you just won't have any new* games/slop left to playFTFYmy emulator says, "sup bitch"
>>728964397Seething
>>728950239>I was simply not purchase your gamereading this reminds me why I stopped using this site and this board in particular. one of the brownest board on 4chan. autocorrect shouldn't be doing this, so the only other alternative is...and the subject at hand also attracts the browns because only they and 'chuds' (why is this word a thing?) defend it so feverishly.
>>728964350>gremlinsstill giving joe dante grey hairs because of how troublesome they were>aliensrip tall black og alienbut yeah, you're right. though it's tough work, in the end it's worth it
>>728950137i like how people assume technology will only get better and will always be around
>>728970227Cool it with the antisemitic competence theories.
>>728950137Sounds like retarded shit coming from someone who still uses fucking fax machines.
>>728950137WOW SUCH A GENIUS!!! HES SO SMART
>>728951253CGI still looks fake regardless of how many years and decades it has had to cook. Practical effects are an art and will always be superior.
>>728963916Dont play games released after 2015 they are garbage anyways
He just want to sniff Elle's feets
>>728950137Fuck this westaboo hack
Good thing nobody who makes actual video games is affected.
