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this is going to come out and it's going to be like Oblivion remastered all over again with people changing their minds and saying achtually Fallout 3 was always good
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it is better than 76 and 4 tho
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Fallout 3 was always good. You're just a retard who discovered Fallout New Vegas from Reddit's recommended games.
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4 > NV > 76 > 3
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it is good though
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>>728950942
I'll also note that Oblivion was also very good. OP has shit tastes because he's a reddit fag.
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>>728950942
Uh? How did you know? *starts sweating nervously* are y-you my secret stalker?!
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>>728950523
nv > 2 > 4 > 3
never played the first one or 76
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remastering should be made illegal
i don't want to play the same old jank with a HD texture pack

you fucking REMAKE the game from the ground up, like re2make did it
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>>728950523
The only thing people will be talking about is how soon until NV gets remade/imported into FO3:R
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>>728951034
no it wasnt, the Oblivion remaster was the same shitty gameplay hidden underneath Unreal Engine lipstick
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>>728950523
Are they gonna remaster the dogshit writing? No? I'll pass then, I just beat TTW last week. Capital Wasteland start btw.
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the fallout fandom infighting is madness. madness, i say. 1 is good. 2 is good. 3 is good. NV is good. 4 is good. i haven't played tactics, BoS or 76 but i'm sure they're good. even the show is good, for a video game adaptation. are they perfect?fuck no. 1 has a ton of useless noobtrap skills, 2 is pop culture: the reference: the game, 3 has that fucking 4th grade writing level pre-DLC ending, NV gets longwinded between sawyer and avellone droning on and on and on about DA BEAR AND DA BULL and muh corruption, 4 is rife with more 4th grade level retardation like the institute's total lack of motivation for their actions and you know what? THEY'RE ALL STILL GOOD.
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>>728951957
>good, good, good
you need to discover more adjectives
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>>728950523
Fallout 3 was always good.
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>>728952069
flowery language is for girls and queers
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>>728951957
yeah the amount of bickering is rather obnoxious, although I really don't like 4. I didn't like how they changed the special system, the minecraft stuff, voiced protagonist, or story. but I don't go around yelling "tranny" at anyone who enjoys it. I honestly think most of /v/ is comprised of teenagers.
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>>728950523
fallout 3 is actually the only fallout game worth playing in my opinion
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>>728952069
Using adjectives other than good would create a hierarchy which is the opposite of that post's intent
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>>728951957
No need to play 76, it's actually shit. I agree that the rest of the series is enjoyable to different degrees.
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I’m upset that my browser updated and I had to see that retarded kid with the goatee making another one of his fallout videos
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Oh look, another thread where console normalfags argue which flavor of bethesda shit is the least smelly or claim Fallout 3 (the game that ruined the IP forever) should be put on the same shelf as 1 or 2.
Get the fuck out. You have Reddit. Stay there.
>muh new vegas
Modded Fallout 3 == bethesda garbage.
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>>728952695
Don't you have a mole rat fight to savescum after missing five shots in a row unc?
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>>728952824
Objectively than any and all direct action input. In fact the 3D fallout games suffer tremendously from not forcing VATS as the exclusive implementation of combat gameplay
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>>728950523
Fallout 3 being bad was historical revisionism pushed by rabid NV fanboys and neckbeards.

People loved 3 when it came out.
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>>728950523
I hate that AI stuff is so obvious now, I can see the piss filter over the text.
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Really riled up the normalfag trash with one post
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>>728952824
Funny how this can apply to vanilla Fallout 3
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>>728950523
Always was
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Every year that goes by I’m more and more convinced that Todd got filtered by shady sands or trying to plant the listening device and is forever butthurt because it’s too high of a skill ceiling for him and his game design
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>HD remake with a split titlescreen that lets you choose between it or NV
It would single-handedly undo years of bad PR but Todd won't do it because he is retarded
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There's nothing to worry about. Nobody actually thinks Fallout 3 is good. It'll come out and people who were 10yo when Fallout 3 came out will play it for nostalgia for 5 hours and then drop it and go back to whatever daily slop they play.
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>>728950523
Fallout 3 was always fine.
I remember not liking NV at all when it was new because it barely fucking functioned at all.
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>>728953685
>non-linear quests
>emphasis on morality
>choices change the world
>made Fallout first person
It's good. Better than any Elder Scrolls.
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>>728953106
This is literally true. Every person I knew who played vidya was playing the fuck out of Fallout 3 when it came out.
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>>728950523
FO3 was always good. I eagerly anticipate a remaster, the game looks poor and runs worse on modern systems.
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>emphasis on morality
Discrediting your obvious shitpost, if only to make that as clear as possible right away.
>le heckin nuke in the shanty puddle town
>I'll blow it up
>meet up with D list guy
>son, I'm so disappointed that you nuked a town
>anyway let's get back to work on fixing the water supply
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>>728950523
Ah another remaster on UE5slop. Just imagine it guys oh wait, you don't have to.
>picrel
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>>728953986
>emphasis on morality
*gives 50 bottles of water to a homeless guy and becomes a messiah*
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>>728952069
He's suggesting that there is no qualitative difference between the games. They are all good. Understand now, brownie?
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>>728952824
oh shit a zoomer who got filtered by morrowind appears!
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Ah yes, I love going under the overpass where the hot topic LARPERs are threatening three rusted shacks 200 years after the bombs fell
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fallout 3 was good
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I liked 3 and will play it again if this happens. the gun play was janky and itll be better.
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>>728950523
Fallout 3's systems were even more retarded and nonsensical than Oblivion. You can probably play Oblivion for over a hundred hours without ever realizing how anything works or how retarded it is, which is why it was great for streamer publicity. Fallout 3 is a totally different animal where they'll be ragequitting in short order once the talon mercenary spam starts.
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>>728954883
>auto aim button
>still struggling
Troon Vegas players are handicapped too
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>>728954883
You act like there weren't assassins popping up when you slept in Morrowind. Surely gamers can handle a few talon squads.
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>>728954883
By the time Talon starts showing up outside of their static spawns you should already have a decent weapon and some VATS perks to help you click heads.
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>>728954883
Also Fallout 3's vault concepts are almost all based on real life conspiracies that turned out to be real so a Fallout 3 remaster will never happen in the first place. Even just the console entries in the pentagon would make twatter lose its fucking mind and try to cancel it. Then again, editing all that stuff out of a remaster may be the entire point I guess. Whatever, honk honk on clowns.
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I remember that Feral Ghoul Reavers or whatever being way harder to kill than I realized
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>>728955104
I remember sentry bots having weaker damage resistance on their arms compared to their heads.
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>>728954996
Yeah if you had the expansion packs and the busted port
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>>728954883

3 improved on Oblivion’s systems in every conceivable way:

>level scaling is more sensible rather than them doing the “bandits in ebony armour” thing, since most of the level scaling affects overworld encounters.
>don’t need to sleep to level up
>assigning skill points is better than the system TES games use where you have to use skills to level them
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Fallout 3 was always a 6/10, 7/10 in its best moments. The world is fun to explore, atmosphere is great when isolated from the abysmal writing/world logic, some of the DLC was solid and I did genuinely enjoy being able to see the aftermath of events with Broken Steel, and the amount of little hidden areas or items to find made almost every spot in the game worth looking at to a degree.

It's for sure one of the worst in the series, but in those isolated pockets away from the nonsensical writing or lack of sense to the world, it's a fun apocalyptic space to explore. Honestly, it's similar to Oblivion as a game that's straight up a downgrade from its predecessors, but it has some great quests here and there, some fun spots to explore, and overall is a fun time if you turn your brain off a bit.

If they do remake/remaster it though, I really hope they work on the gunplay. I don't want Fallout 4's perk/skill system (or lack thereof) at all, but having FPS basics like being able to properly aim down sights, have bullets actually go where you're aiming, and maybe even some light weapon modding (slightly more in-depth compared to NV, but not as nitty gritty as FO4), would be a serious improvement.
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>>728951327
>TTW
LMAO you got hoodwinked
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>>728953629
>Built in Tale of Two Wastelands, or a NG+ feature where, upon beating one of the games, you have the option to take your character into the other

Genuinely would blow up the industry for a few years.
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>>728955858
You've been reposting this bait for a long time man, nobody is falling for it anymore. I played both games on PS3, there is no reason not to just install TTW on your PC for consecutive playthroughs.
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>>728956014
Yes, there isn’t didn’t you even read the meme?! If you use Troon Tard Wank you miss out on all the badass Chadout 3 mods and instead have to use woke propaganda mods made by actual breadtubers like Kyle Marshiku!
Why would you want to worse experience?
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>>728950523
Fallout 3 was always good. It still is
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>>728953387
chad doesn't have any saves, he didn't even play the game
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>>728950523
It's gonna come out and zoomers are going to onions out about how they made a game based on the netflix series, but why does it start at 3?
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>>728956419
Neither did the guy who spams these images lol
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>>728955631
>The world is fun to explore, atmosphere is great when isolated from the abysmal writing/world logic
This sums it up pretty much. Bethesda had a talented team of writers on the payroll until Oblivion, when hacks like Emil started to join the company.
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>>728950523
I like all the Fallout games, they each have their own pros and cons but manage to be playable and enjoyable
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>>728950523
it was its better than nv and 4
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Fabio's influence is spreading in every corner of the fallout fandom. He is unstoppable.
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>>728954986
What the fuck are you talking about you schizo retard vats is in both games.
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>>728955064
Depending on what you did in optional questlines, you could end up with every single random encounter replaced with talon mercenaries. It was a fucking colossal meme a lot of people considered game breaking when it first released, maybe they patched it in later versions, I don't know or care really. None of bethesda's fallout games were ever worth revisiting.
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>>728950523
i've always said fallout 3 was good. some of my favorite moments. mega ton. that vault with the VR. Gary.
can't wait to replay a remaster.
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>>728959564
exiting vault 101 was a KINO vidya moment
I probably made a soijak face unwillingly
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>>728959973
>can't even be happy because of soijak brainrot
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>>728950523
can they remaster the story too
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>>728960687
sorry, too much internet
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>>728959973
same. also reminded me of another iconic moment, the tunnel snakes. fallout 3 had soul idc what anyone says
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>>728961085
tunnel snakes rule
I have a tunnel snake skin for my 10mm in Fallout 4, cool little thing
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>>728950523
Nothing changed about Oblivion though? It's still considered the worst TES game compared to Morrowind and Skyrim. Morrowind is just the best designed of the three, and Skyrim has way more mods that make up and fix any issues.
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>>728950523
Fallout 3 is good, dumbass.
I mean it's a Bethesda game. So you may not like it.
But 3 is a good Bethesda game. Great map, great quests, terrific atmosphere and setting. Good dungeon design. Gameplay is off, but being a stealth gunman is still always a good time. The main story isn't great, the ending is dumb as hell.
But overall pretty solid.
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>>728951957
Based.
>I'm sure BOS is good
You don't need to go that far.

But yeah all the games are good in their own ways. They are different, and none are flawless, but the cores always still have a decent time.
People get so wracked up about what Fallout should be, what it is in their heads, that often they can't enjoy the games as they are.

>Even the show is good
I agree. I mean it's not my kind of thing, and it is annoying how much they change the lore. I think most people would prefer the show to be ignorable lore-wise.
But for a videogame adaptation it's wonderfully done. Great sets, great monsters, it gets the lore correct - which is not something most people would expect.
It's an adaptation of a video game series, there was no expectation for it not to be terrible and it wasn't.
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>>728950523
This is the last game i want to see remastered. They're completely gonna ruin the aesthetic.
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>>728952695
>Fallout 3 (the game that ruined the IP forever)
The game that saved the ip.
Look there were many complicated CRPGs from the 1990s that fucking no one remembers today. Arcanium, Wasteland, etc.
People only remember Fallout because Fallout 3 made the series worth remembering. It revived it, made it something that broader audiences outside of a few RPG enthusiasts from the 1990s would remember.

Fallout 3 is also a really good translation of 1 and 2 from an isometric CRPG into a first person, open world action RPG.
VATs, the visuals, the gun designs, the enemies, the radio, the random encounters, the world design more broadly, even the metro system makes Fallout 3's DC feel like selecting your location from an image of a burned out town in like the Boneyard or whatever.
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>>728953258
Why would you be using VATs for a molerat?
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>>728950523
Fallout 3 and new vegas were great games. I did not like 4 and i don't want to see either of these games to look anything like it. The remaster didn't do Oblivion much good either. The vibe just wasn't the same.
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>>728965339
The DC Metro was a piece of shit that railroaded you through a handful of paths because the rest of the city was covered in rubble and invisible walls. I fucking hate Bethesda map design. Everything outside of DC was way more enjoyable to explore.
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>>728954134
The only people who were against it were some of the ultra hardcore fans on places like NoMutantsAllowed. Which makes sense. Naturally people who are so autistic that they spend their time lurking on a message board for two CRPGs which were almost a decade old would be adverse to change of genre.
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>>728950523
Oblivion remaster did the opposite for me. I realized it wasn't as good as I remembered it being when I was a kid and wished I had just left those memories alone lol
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>>728950523
most people have never stopped thinking FO3 was good, it's only classic fans (an extremely small minority of people) and NV superfans. FO3 while being poorly written is a decent enough map to explore, played most of it in TTW recently and with the benefits of modded NV the game is a decent enough time.
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>>728965339
Intercontinental ballistic trvke. I'm supposed to believe 3 is at fault for ruining Fallout when Tactics/BoS basically killed the series?
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>>728965475
>Everything outside of DC was way more enjoyable to explore.
I don't disagree, but the metro had a good purpose.

The tech wasn't there at the time to have a huge city you could just walk all through. DC, without the tunnels, would be small and unimpressive.
I mean Las Vegas is only interesting because it's also broken up into different cells. The ruins area in the open world is boring and small.

The Metros make DC feel big even though it isn't in the game
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>>728965848
Going into the metro tunnels for the first time was pretty memorable.
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>>728965763
It's telling people only really talk about the writing and world building being off in 3, when that wasn't consistent yet.
Literally every Fallout game up to 3 was massively different in writing style and tone.

>Fallout 1 was really dark, presenting goofy ideas through an entirely serious lens.
>Fallout 2 is goofy, filled with pop culture references and introduces shit like talking deathclaws, ghosts, and psychics to the series
>Tactics is a full on war movie pastiche
>Brotherhood of Steel replaced the 50s theming for NuMetal music and Nuka Cola with Ballz energy drink.

So 3 is written more whimsically. Things don't make sense. They're not meant to. There aren't any farms not because Bethesda is too dumb to include something they've already included in every Elder Scrolls game, but because it would make the atmosphere less hostile.

It's different than 1 and 2, yes. But no more different than all of the games already were to eachother.
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>>728966091
They do really wear out their welcome when you want to explore every location though
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>>728966091
And then quickly turn into
>Waow another dilapidated tunnel
>Waow another dilapidated tunnel this one has a few train cars in it
>Waow another dilapidated tunnel
>Waow you're never going to guess what I just found
>Another dilapidated tunnel!
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>>728966397
It's even worse because they include a handful of unique items and quest markers in the tunnels to compel you to slog through all of them.
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i like how everybody still gets into these shitflinging contests about whether fallout 3 is good or not even though broken steel existing is only possible if bethesda themselves agree with the latter opinion



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