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You WILL game on Linux!
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yes
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0 games
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>>728952961
i'm not a computer engineer
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>>728952961
already have been since 2021
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>>728952961
Yup. I'm switching over next year.
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Don't know which to switch to from Arch.
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>>728953235
About the same for me i would say
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>>728953454
You don't, you could switch to Gentoo if you want your programs to run like 5% faster in exchange for spending several hours a day building shit
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>>728952961
Yes but not on fedora tho
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>>728953524
what's wrong with fedora
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>>728952961
I'm on W11 and I'm getting kinda bored of games just working and updates never breaking my system. Should I switch to Linux just to fuck my shit up?
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>>728952961
Been on EndeavourOS since early last year. No regrets, especially since the vast majority of my gaming these days is retro-oriented. Everything I play is either emulated or works well with no fuss via Proton. good thing too because I've been on an Nyidia GPU since 2021.
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>>728953675
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>>728952961
been doing that for years now.
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>>728953846
Linux is much more stable than you would expect. I run Arch and I've had like 2 errors over the past 3 years of using it that could have actually fucked my shit up
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Why the fuck isn't there an OS that's just the best?
Winblows is a massive resource hog even when it's idle
Linux runs like butter but you have to tinker or tweak shit every other game you want to play, specially older ones
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>>728954119
you need to tinker with older games on windows too
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>>728953846
I'm only on Linux because Windows updated and stopped working. If you can't trust Windows to not randomly break, why not use Linux?
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>>728954302
Not to the same extent as on linux though
anyway, what's the FOTM distro? I've been using Mint for about a year but I think it's time for a change
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>>728952961
I already do.
>>728953128
Categorically false, but nice seethe.
>>728953187
Neither am I.
I'm a software engineer.
>>728953846
You'd still be pretty bored most of the time if you were to pick a point-release distribution, install Steam, and play single-player games released in the past 25 years without going out of your way to install the ones with well known problems.
>>728954119
The recommendation I see most frequently in >>>/vg/lgg is CachyOS but I don't care. I've been on Mint for years and it works well enough.
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>>728955081
>what's the FOTM distro?
either cachyos or bazite
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>>728955081
in my experience, there is less tinkering with older games on linux than on windows.
e.g. Timeshift. I just had to switch to Proton experimental
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>>728952961
if windows keeps shitting all over the place with no end in sight for another few years or gives me the ol hardware failure, sure
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>>728952961
I don't even game on Windows, dumb penguinposter
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BLESSED penguinposter
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>>728952961
Not on fedora, the piece of shit refused to unlock the encryption because I used an ñ on it and the boot up doesn't recognize the character if you do that
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>cachyos wants to use btrfs
Is it actually good? It looks like some crazy space age shit, what's the catch?
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>>728958793
that's a wrong keymap on the virtual console
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>>728959035
btrfs is fine. it's not the most performant filesystem but it's copy-on-write so you can do snapshots
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>>728953128
19,773 games
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>>728959432
>post pic including multiplats
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>>728952961
I do use linux as my daily driver now, I switched rather than take the Windows 11 upgrade cock.

It's fine for casual gaming, but you WILL NOT play games that require anticheat:
https://areweanticheatyet.com/
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>>728954787
That happened to me too, i wonder why windows suddenly stops working and doesn't allow you to reinstall it, that is why i hate hate that shitty OS.
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>>728952961
Getting games to run on linux is the easy part.
Good look finding drivers for your hardware though! Until Linus sorts that one out I won't be moving to his platform.
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>>728959035
No casefolding unline EXT4, but we're entering extreme edge case territory here. Btrfs is just the next gen FS for Linux
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>updated nvidia drivers
>now my computer is just freezing requiring a reboot
>have to spend my weekend figuring out how to rollback nvidia drivers
the future of gaming
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>>728960998
What is that needed for? I've never had a problem, well I don't know that my few problems were due to that anyway
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>>728961450
File replacement mods, some of them have don't have matching case with the original files so you end up with duplicate files and the mod won't work.
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>>728960998
who uses casefolding?
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I have a Mac desktop and a laptop with shitux on it and it sucks but I tolerate it
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>>728960058
>https://areweanticheatyet.com/
Usecase for letting some random company spy on my computer just to play a video game?
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developers should be forced to develop for vulkan at gunpoint
dx12 is the biggest fucking abortion on the planet
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>>728959932
>moving the goalposts
>pretending to be will smith
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>>728962885
>moving the goalposts
If you're gonna shill your platform of choice it has to be using what said platform has over others. Out of all the things PC can do you chose stuff that anyone else can for your argument ffs. So yeah; multiplats don't count, you absolute Chris Rock
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>>728962392
It might be a good game, and you might have friends who want to play that game with you. Hard to image for the average linux user I know
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>>728961208
fixed it (I think)
installed linux-lts and nvidia-open-lts, also had to update grub to boot into the correct kernel

Fixing stupid linux problems accounts for 99% of my chatgpt usage, as its the only thing it seems to be good for.
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>>728963401
I can play deadlock, elden ring, Absolum, It Takes Two, BG3, Elden Ring nightreign, GW2, LOTRO, SWTOR, elite dangerous, warframe, all monster hunter titles, palworld, the halo MCC collection, ROR and ROR2, did i miss any MP games worth playing?
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>>728963253
Yeah, games that only run on Linux would be useful to me if I wanted to convince Windows users to switch. I don't though. I was just correcting anon's silly math error.
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>>728963253
>multiplats don't count
ask me how i know your IQ is less than 80. No really, ask me how I know. Multiplats dont matter for consoles where they are the objectively inferior version but on PC where they ARE the superior version they absolutely do matter.
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>>728964249
>Multiplats dont matter for consoles where they are the objectively inferior version but on PC where they ARE the superior version they absolutely do matter.
Multiplats don't matter FOR ANYTHING, you dumb vegan
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>>728964442
How the fuck did you end up here you mentally ill tendie
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>>728964442
>FOR ANYTHING
Why wouldnt they matter? No really. If the best possible experience for all multiplats happens to be on the exact same platform why does that not matter? You hold exclusives hostage and think of it as a good thing without thinking about the fact that your shitty little console hardware is running everything else extremely poorly. If a person wants to play games that are multi plats, the best possible way to play those is on pc. Its not even a comparison. You dont like that , it makes you seethe, and so you cope by pretending any game that is multiplat doesnt matter.

The funny thing about this logic is that its retroactive in your mind. Games that were previously exclusive and that only you could enjoy somehow become inferior in your mind once they lose exclusivity and people are able to play it on superior hardware with superior FPS and settings.
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Sorry, i'm not trans I'll just stick to windows.
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>>728964909
So you're a chink or a spic then? Since representation matters that much to you that much?
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>>728964909
enjoy your OS becoming worse and worse with every forced update. cant even move the fucking taskbar anymore LOL
https://www.windowslatest.com/2025/12/19/why-you-cant-move-windows-11-taskbar-like-windows-10/
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>>728952961
IT SUCKS
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Imagine how good Linux would be if all the developers pooled their effort into 2-3 mainstream distros instead of forking into three dozen separate projects just to satiate their autism.
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>>728963887
BF6
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>>728952961
I already do
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>>728965105
that's basically already the case, DEs have consolidated into Gnome and KDE. The distro isn't even that important and a lot of splinters are autism distros that still cry about systemd or some other petty shit
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>>728965105
>pooled their effort into 2-3 mainstream distros
Debian
Ubuntu
Arch
Fedora

Those are the mainstream ones maintained by the most people. The others are all basically forks maintained by enthusiasts who want them to do specific things. You would know this if you werent retarded.
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>>728965172
not really my type of game but i will admit after watching my gf play it for a while that it does seem pretty good. It sucks that we live in a world where the only way devs think that they can deal with cheaters is extremely invasive kernel level anticheat that doesn't even prevent all cheating.
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>>728964608
>muh tendie cope
Do you understand any given product's selling point is bound by the concept exclusivity, for what it has that other products don't? You do realize game systems are worth only due their software?

The answer for both, in your case, is no.
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>>728952961
I don't see that happening, never even tried using linux
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>>728965659
>Do you understand any given product's selling point is bound by the concept exclusivity
Its not, and the fact that you think it is means you are legitimately retarded.
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>>728964791
>The funny thing about this logic is that its retroactive in your mind. Games that were previously exclusive and that only you could enjoy somehow become inferior in your mind once they lose exclusivity and people are able to play it on superior hardware with superior FPS and settings.
Bad projection. They'd be inferior not for being ported later into other platforms, they'd be inferior because they're released as hackjobs missing pieces/features (or worse) present in the original release making them effectively an inferior release. You already have all those ps2 ports as a huge proof of this.
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>>728966087
>moving the goalpost to be about porting older games
That has literally nothing to do with multi plats of current gen games you fucking moron. FFX looks just as shit on Switch as it does on PC because its the same fucking remaster. Atleast on PC you can actually FIX all of those mistakes with mods, as is the case with FF X.
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>>728965714
>it's not lol + ad hom trying to bulletproof the lack of solid argument
Yeah, I'm going to dismiss that and sadly have to bring up something that may not suit your narrative, let alone your personal tastes blinding you this much.

It is. In fact, it's the main unspoken rule of consumerism and nobody escapes from it for all you try to make look other people retaded for the sake of your cope, and that includes you. It's simple as hell; if your product has something, anything really that will work as a reason to justify its purchase. Since the context here is game systems, it means the main reason is software since (Yamauchi was extremely right on that) game systems live and die through software, other can try and sell theirs under other premises but they will fail (like Xbox did). We also have a huge precedent of this rather contemporary in the music biz; iTunes didn't kill physical and music players, they actually had a resurgence... and that was exactly because they had something exclusively to them over ther options. Just like you choosing, what it seems at least, choosing PC for what you think/what it can do that other platforms can't.

I swear, vegans online are among the most stubborn on purpose crowd giving sonnigros a run for their money

>>728966087
>the missing textures in DMCHD
Fuck you, now I'm triggered again
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>>728966326
>FFX looks just as shit on Switch as it does on PC because its the same fucking remaster.
>Atleast on PC you can actually FIX all of those mistakes with mods, as is the case with FF X.
There's an easy fix for you: pay the original like person with a brain and don't enable remastering cancer
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>>728966641
Legitimately one of the most retarded people on the planet and I dont care enough to argue with you because you are too retarded to understand.
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>>728966727
>pay the original like person with a brain and don't enable remastering cancer
I do, but it still has nothing to do with multiplats.
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>It's not about playing the game. It's about knowing that other people can't!
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>>728966734
>your retarded because your retarded
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>>728966848
>but it still has nothing to do with multiplats.
Yes, it does. Multiplats are always the worse version all across.
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>>728966894
>I'm entitled to play and pirate every software
Just don't be poor, you can get 2 platforms and you're set for life. They're not even that expensive
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>>728966946
WE literally have objective proof of how retarded you are with every single dev who has ever made a deal with Epic games to be exclusive on their platform confirming that their sales were fucking abysmal and almost non existent until the game eventually came to steam. Being exclusive is NOT a good thing. Consumers actively hate being forced to use something they dont want to use. Thats why no one has even played death stranding 2 yet despite the first being so popular because it was mostly popular on PC.
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No I won't. Fuck you.
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>>728967149
>Storefron deals = platform development deals
>still throwing the word retard like a monkey
If you're going to call anyone a retard you should know better than mixing apples with oranges, anon
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>>728965659
>any given product's selling point is bound by the concept exclusivity
ah yes, i pick my bread based on its exclusive features
fuck off you moron, the value of pc is how much it can do and how many games it can play where you can take advantage of pc's functionality
the value of consoles is being retard friendly and cheaper up front and how much exclusivity you can throw at it before it inevitably becomes irrelevant with pc ports and emulation
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>>728967103
Sorry for stealing back the izzat you gained by calling me poor, but this started as a discussion about the lack of exclusives on Linux, and I don't even have to pay for the other relevant "platform" here because Windows is basically free in that it works without being activated and you're not going to be sued for using an unlicensed copy unless you're a corporation. I'm not even interested in discussing consoles except to say that, yes, I will use their software without buying the hardware, whether you think I'm entitled or not.
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>>728967213
wtf is this real? I'm cancelling my linux subscription right now
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>>728967213
based
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>>728967209
>game is multiplat
>console, mobileshit, personal computers, even the fucking ipad had a version
Where's the good version here? The games wasn't designed with any platform's strenghts and advantages and has to be released in several requiring time for its specific version in cost of others. A multiplat game is downgraded by default with no real way for the consumer to know which one is the version that was properly worked on for and can only cope assuming using the beefier hardware he can could make it any good. But then again; this is an issue to the people that bothers with multiplat slop
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>>728967213
death of the artist
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>>728967429
>but this started as a discussion about the lack of exclusives on Linux
Was it? I thought it was PC as a platform, Linux is not that relevant even in the pc landscape
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>>728967213
Not wanting to use Linux is fine, but having a folder of "I hate Linux" pictures is a mental illness. Just don't use it.
>>728967608
You're in a Linux gaming thread, you moron.
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>>728967525
>The games wasn't designed with any platform's strenghts and advantages
and what are those?
there's fundamentally no way to design an exclusive without some cope
all peripherals can be made to work with all hardware, all controls can always be simplified through context menus
all exclusives exist either due to bribery, laziness or apathy
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>>728967260
>>Storefron deals = platform development deals
>moving the goalposts yet again
ok, so its not just about exclusivity, its specifically about hardware exclusivity. ok then, again, why is death stranding 2 selling so poorly compared to the PC version of death stranding 1.

Why did Bayonetta 2 sell so poorly compared to 1?
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>>728967939
>and what are those?
Multiplats
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>>728967686
>You're in a Linux gaming thread, you moron.
And in what platform Linux is mainly present?
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>>728952961
>Friends are going to do a Kyber game later
>Wine does not work because of an upstream dev being retarded with undocumented Windows apis
>"Don't worry guys we have a CLI you can use."
>The CLI is nowhere to be found
Between the "you have to join a discord server for the zip file" and this, it's not a good impression for Kyber so far. Anyway been linuxing since 2020 and I'm pretty comfy with everything.
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I switched to Linux and a lot of my games run worse than on windows, lots of stuttering and the game chugging for some reason. I tried using Protong GE instead of steam's proton and it just doesn't launch any games.
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>>728968128
ONE MORE THING
why did bloodborne sell so little compared to every souls games and elden ring on pc? The truth behind all of these questions is that exclusivity is holding games hostage and consumers are aware of this and only a few are retarded enough to purchase hardware just because a company is holding something hostage.
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>>728968232
>I tried using Protong GE instead of steam's proton and it just doesn't launch any games.
How did you install it, and where did you install it? This is what my proton GE folder looks like inside, you can see where it is installed, and it works when i launch games. I would make sure that you installed it correctly and then restart steam.
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>>728967939
>all exclusives exist either due to bribery, laziness or apathy
I know the vegans and vocal minorities warped your perception of reality but all your big words to reffer to exclusives is simply someone working into building a platform with a product to sell. has nothing to do with lazyness or apathy considering there's actual desire to make an exclusive game. Lazyness and apathy kick in when making a port

>>728968128
>le moving the goalpost cope
No, anon; you thought a storefront is the same as a platform.

>Why did Bayonetta 2 sell so poorly compared to 1?
Copius amount of salt from people that didn't buy the first one in a period around a platform that botched its marketing leading to a hate campaign to be successful. Why you ask?
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>>728968184
Android phones, but the topic of the thread is Linux on PCs, which is why you should acknowledge that the discussion of exclusives/multiplats which started at >>728959932 is in the context of Linux versus Windows.
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>>728968432
>you thought a storefront is the same as a platform.
>tendie retard is confirmed to be brown ESL
threads over
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>>728968132
what games CAN be designed for a specific platform?
fundamentally the three console makers use the same exact controls and you can squeeze every game into those controls if you try hard enough
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>>728968273
>The truth behind all of these questions is that exclusivity is holding games hostage
>le holding game hostage
Anon stop, nobody falls for your crusade. Exclusive software has only one purpose; to attract audiences into selling the platform it's avaiable/made for. And Bloodborne did heavy lifting just like Mario Kart World
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>>728968514
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>>728968460
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>>728968502
>which started at (You) is in the context of Linux versus Windows.
I have bad news for you, anon
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>>728968460
>PLEASE THINK OF MY BILLION DOLLAR CORPORATION THEY JUST WANT TO SELL PRODUCT!!!
and as long as that product is trapped on a nonfunctional goybox i don't care
respect your customers or get emulated
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>>728968432
Installed it manually to the compatibility tools folder and through Protonup after I thought I somehow did it wrong. If it wasn't in the right place I doubt steam would be able to detect it to display it as an option for the compatibility tools.
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>>728968561
>nobody falls for your crusade
Is that why bloodborne sold so few copies despite being one of the best games ever, depsite being so heavily requested by literally everyone on the planet? They would literally 10x their sales if they ported it, but they wont, because they are greedy assholes, just like nintendo are.
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>linux thread
>chatbots arguing about multiplats
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>>728968628
Then you're just a fucking idiot for bringing up consoles out of nowhere in a Linux-versus-Windows thread.
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>>728968515
>what games CAN be designed for a specific platform?
Any game, game software is about execution. Now even with that in mind they should stick with FPS being a genre PC mainly. Some RTS on console attempts were nice but they don't belong in a console just like fighting games on pc
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>>728968726
a tendie schizo somehow found this thread
they're genuinely the worst people on this fucking board now
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>>728968654
well i would recommend removing all the files and re installing it then, its weird that it just doesnt work but it shows up. question: does steam have permission to access those files?
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>>728952961
Current pajeet CEO is killing Windows so the market is wide open for an alternative OS.
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>>728959932
>>728968628
There's no button in the Steam search to filter out games that are on consoles.
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>>728967213
>i wont use le linux cause of muh politisperg-ACK!
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>>728968774
consoles have gyro to emulate mice
fighting games are just a series of fucking buttons
again, what games CAN be designed for a specific platform?
give examples
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>>728968781
the one entertaining a tendie schizo is just as bad as the schizo
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>>728968635
I don't have a billion dollar corporation, anon. You're coping too poorly

>>728968689
>Is that why bloodborne sold so few copies despite being one of the best games ever
No, it sold low beacuse it wasn't THAT good. It met the purpose to make PS4 look more attractive which I'm sure you should know the sale numbers in its first 3 years

>>728968726
Some retard got triggered because anon didn't buy his argument selling his platform with multiplats as important. Prease understand, he was as dumb as Sony
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>>728968807
>question: does steam have permission to access those files?
unless there is something I missed I would say yes since I select it to force compatibility via the game's settings.
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>>728968967
>it wasn't THAT good.
we're reaching levels of tendie cope that shouldnt even be possible. Tell me oh tendie of mine, what is your 3x3 (aka 9 favorite games)
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>>728968967
>reddit tier non response
kill yourself
absolutely fucking no one cares about the well being of your goybox console, no one is forcing you to make it and it's not revolutionary
just because a decision was made for self preservation's sake doesn't mean preserving that garbage holds any value
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>>728968689
>They would literally 10x their sales if they ported it, but they wont, because they are greedy assholes, just like nintendo are.
That's the cope prospect of vocal minorities, anon. The teenage kids stating "but it would sell more" memes just because they think are entitled doesn't translate, ask Xbox; they listened to that crowd. Ask them how it went for them
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>>728969001
i have an idea. close steam completely and launch it through the terminal. just type steam
like this. then launch a game with normal steam proton. notice what the terminal looks like. Then launch the game with proton GE and try to find something that points to a failure or something different.
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>>728968772
You missed the point of what you quoted
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Its probably best to just completely ignore the tendie schizo.
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>>728969101
>absolutely fucking no one cares about the well being of your goybox console
It's not about any given platform; it's about the long term health of the medium. But you're too triggered because I'm saying yes to your memes

>>728968947
>again, what games CAN be designed for a specific platform?
>give examples
Already game you examples, anon

>consoles have gyro to emulate mice
Nobody uses those. I assume you meant Switch 2's, right?

>fighting games are just a series of fucking button
Which demand you a controller or arcade stick to be played properly. Both are at best a secondary for pc
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>>728968781
There are no real schizos in this thread. Absolutely no one in here knows about Schumann resonance or Milankovitch cycles. Sad uneducated thread. When you encounter a real schizo you listen and learn. They know more than you.
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>>728969031
>we're reaching levels of tendie cope that shouldnt even be possible
>muh tendie cope 2.0
It was good but not that good. What's not to understand? Just because you had almost a decade of pc beggars doesn't make the exclusive in question the best game ever made of all time. BB was fine
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Bazzite is kinda gay cause if you want to install something not available on Flathub you have to install in DistroBox.
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>>728968967
>selling his platform with multiplats as important.
If you're referring to >>728959432, then you really need to practice your reading comprehension, because that post was nothing but a straightforward rebuttal to the claim that Linux has 0 games (which would be false even if we were disregarding all games that are available on consoles because there are PC exclusives with Linux builds).
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>it's a schizo
Where did he touch you, anon?
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>>728969157
ProtonFixes[15234] INFO: No global protonfix found for "game"
huh I guess it can't find it for whatever reason.
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>>728969426
the locked down nature of bazzite is a meant to be a feature but yes its a completely retarded one and its why i use fedora instead. pc modding in general requires using a lot of tools generally that wont be available on flathub.
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>>728969538
is this a problem with every game you try or just 1 specific one
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>>728969431
>a straightforward rebuttal to the claim that Linux has 0 games (which would be false even if we were disregarding all games that are available on consoles because there are PC exclusives with Linux builds).
Agreed. Reading comprehension was applied beforehand, but some vegan got mad at that post regardless. Now, to not make this spam; what are some games made only and for Linux?
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>>728969426
Doesn't it come with Homebrew? Do like Mac users do
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>>728952961
>nusoi using a OS called fedora troonix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trjKjYbILoU
GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG NUSOICACAS DO YOU REALLY?!
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>>728969343
literally the only unique feature of consoles now is being locked down and that's not a positive
they're not making anything healthier, they even use pc hardware but cucked

>Already game you examples, anon
and they're fucking shit, try again

>Nobody uses those. I assume you meant Switch 2's, right?
no, pc mice you dumb nigger
what a console is is defined by its controls and there's nothing preventing any console or pc using any input

>Which demand you a controller or arcade stick to be played properly. Both are at best a secondary for pc
>a secondary for pc
>a secondary for pc
they're fucking plug and play and you can easily get one off amazon for less than $50 and there's way more choice than on consoles
also fight sticks mog controllers at fighting games
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>>728969801
stop giving him attention anon
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>>728969620
yeah same error with other games it seems.
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>>728969649
Extreme Tux Racer.
There is a Windows build, but it has no soul if it's not running on Linux, so only the Linux version counts.
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>>728969827
is steam a flatpak? or how did you install it. also what OS
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>>728963253
>If you're gonna shill your platform of choice it has to be using what said platform has over others
Ok, how about having an actually useable desktop experience? Or actually owning your PC and controlling what it does instead of being part of microsofts botnet? Or maybe not having your SSD bricked by an update because 30% of your OS is written by AI now (microsoft proudly admitted that as if it's a good thing)
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>>728969827
>>728969932
also are your games being installed on the same drive as steam is
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>no adobe
>no autodesk apps
>no zbrush
>no native games
want me to go on?
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>>728969932
I just installed it through Mint's software manager, I don't think that is a flatpak.
>>728970029
yeah its all stored on the same drive.
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>>728970178
https://youtu.be/7VZJO-hOT4c
lol
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i refuse to use windows but its disengenuous not to mention the 15-30% performance penalty on dx12 games on linux
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>>728952961
I went linux in 2014 I don't want retards to flock onto it
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>>728969801
>literally the only unique feature of consoles now is being locked down and that's not a positive
>they're not making anything healthier, they even use pc hardware but cucked
And that's basically what's bad and why the industry is shit all around; not making and fostered to make exclusives. Having their architechture being extremely similar one to another did nothing but help to get even worse
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>>728970178
>>no native games
Wrong (see >>728959432).
Move the goalposts.
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>>728969945
Now you're getting it. But is that enough on its own and in the gaming context.

>>728969801
>and they're fucking shit, try again
>FPS and RTS
>shit
Stay slurping console ports then
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>>728970506
I am still angry that EU5 doesn't have a native Linux build when all their other recent games have ones.
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>>728970185
>Mint's software manager, I don't think that is a flatpak.
im not sure how mints software manager works, but go to it and look at steam in it. on fedora's package manager i can see if something is a flatpak or not and what the source is. just make sure its not a flatpak, because everything ive found regarding your error online typically has to do with file permissions and those typically come from flatpaks not having the corect issues
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>>728970710
also, if it is a flatpak, there are ways to change flatpak permissions possibly.
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>>728970710
he could just open a terminal and run $ flatpak list to see what if anything is installed as a flatpak
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>>728970710
Yeah its not a flatpak
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>>728970440
a console isn't its hardware, it's the controller, the hardware can be literally anything and the result is the same
even if someone came up with a revolutionary controller there's no reason anyone couldn't ape it and you're back to square one

>>728970573
an fps can be approximated with gyro on a controller
an rts can also be approximated on a controller with a more tailored ui design
or even just allow and recommend mice, they're cheap as shit and you don't need a gamer mouse
when you actually break shit down to individual particles there's no reason for exclusivity and it's all embedded in ancient mindsets of childhood nostalgia
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>>728970969
>a console isn't its hardware, it's the controller, the hardware can be literally anything and the result is the same
>even if someone came up with a revolutionary controller there's no reason anyone couldn't ape it and you're back to square one
Therefore why a console is its library
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>>728967213
microshit is that times 100 and brown + jewish
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>>728971238
you are spiritually brown, you post on this site 24/7, your body and mind is completely rotting at this point and you're like a dying vegetable in your gaming chair in your mom's basement wasting your life and lashing out at a billion jeets impotently who cant understand what you're saying anyways since they're retarded
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>>728970969
>an fps can be approximated with gyro on a controller
Not quite; in that regard it can be its own thing like Wii mote did.

>an rts can also be approximated on a controller with a more tailored ui design
Not at all, attempts were made but the genre simply doesn't belong in a console and its controller. RTS is tailor made for a keyboard+mice

>when you actually break shit down to individual particles there's no reason for exclusivity and it's all embedded in ancient mindsets of childhood nostalgia
The paradigm is not one needing to change; exclusives attract audiences, multiplats don't. If anything they drive them away if your exclusive output is low, does this sound any familiar. Exclusivity as a concept is as important as an OS in a computer, people is simply drawn to different stuff and this is why exclusives are still a thing to a point of its mention.
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>NVIDIA GPU
no the fuck I won't
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>>728971341
this post is spiritually brown
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>>728971131
a library that can only exist due to developer bribery, laziness or apathy
there's no argument to be made for consoles in the modern day, they don't offer anything by themselves and they never can again
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What filesystem should I use?
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>>728971448
cope with your ruined life over 4chan and porn addiction loser retard, i'm sure that things will for sure change in the next 10 years and you wont die from a blood clot with your dick out and humiliating 4chan tabs open. a loser fuckup till the end
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>>728971481
btrfs for snapshots on your os drive, ext4 everywhere else
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>>728971341
brown shitskin jeet detected
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>>728952961
You will goon on Meth!
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>>728971457
>a library that can only exist due to developer bribery, laziness or apathy
Don't cope, anon. A library of exclusive titles happens because the necessity of establish yourself and create yourself a place to build up from.

>there's no argument to be made for consoles in the modern day, they don't offer anything by themselves and they never can again
Yes, there is. They're not fucking Windows, that alone is a good reason why consoles even in their currently dismal state, still have traction despite some self-nuking in 2 out of the 3 platforms in gaming
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>>728971517
you're literally projecting, shitskin
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>>728954119
>Linux runs like butter but you have to tinker or tweak shit every other game you want to play, specially older ones
you really dont.
at best NOW it's configuring a single option on steam or heroic launcher.
you have to do exactly the same shit to get old games running on windows, like installing fan patches or mods.
there really is no difference.
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>>728971593
you're so fucking tiring to talk to with your retarded marketing talk
no one gives a shit about the brand you worship
the games are separate from it and they can only benefit from being liberated from consoles, that's literally what extends their lives, emulation and ports and everything that follows suit from getting access to the core game itself, not just the locked down goy experience
now go fuck yourself, last (You) you're getting, go spam some famitsu thread or whatever you parasites frequent
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>>728971823
>muh retard
Stop projecting for once. As much as you don't like exclusivity will haunt you

>the games are separate from it and they can only benefit from being liberated from consoles, that's literally what extends their lives, emulation and ports and everything that follows suit from getting access to the core game itself, not just the locked down goy experience
Not when you get pirated to death like most of devs pre 07 on PC. Emulation is a dying concept thanks to your breed of seething vegans, ports are terrible most of the time and games' online living beyond its first month is a rare case happening on console and pc alike. Only you rely on "brand/corporate" scapegoat to delude yourself of the simple fact that multiplats are nothing but fodder in the gaming world despite some of you taking a quite loyalist liking to it.

Now I know nothing will prevent you to return to play to your platform of choice exclusively. And that's fine
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>>728972236
>muh piracy
you know you're parroting publisher lies right? Piracy was never an obstacle to sales not to mention it's morally correct
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>>728972365
>Piracy was never an obstacle to sales
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>>728972476
yes, saying otherwise is parroting lies of 80year old jewish publishers who never played a game in their lives
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>>728952961
I'll make 2026 the year I finally switch
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>>728955081
Everyone starts with Mint and then go from there. Try Fedora KDE for the ultimate Windows experience or Fedora Gnome for the rounded and minimalistic future.
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>>728972365
>>728972578
If it's not an obstacle to sales then why do the greedy publishers care about it? Why would they care enough to spread lies about it being a thing they would care about? This is kind of a self-defeating premise.
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>>728973040
because they're run by businessmen who don't know shit and don't play games and don't know how games or pirates work, see GabeN's attitude towards piracy and how he won
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>>728962392
What the fuck?
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>>728972921
>gnome
>future
https://pkgstats.archlinux.de/fun/Desktop%20Environments/history
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>>728952961
I do
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>>728964909
Your body, your choice, honey.
; )
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>>728963732
what graphics card are you using?
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>>728972578
>yes lol ad hom trying to bulletproof the lack of argument
your routine got tiresome
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I do and I pirate all my games using a 10 year old computer even.
Saving a bunch this way.
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>>728973416
suck sony's dick more you retarded snoydrone, consoles are dead and for a good reason
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>>728973143
>because they're run by businessmen who don't know shit and don't play games and don't know how games or pirates work
Are you saying the guys that only care about a bussiness know better how to a bussiness works than a random online edgy kid? Color me surprised

>see GabeN's attitude towards piracy and how he won
That had a huge drawnback. Easy to access is only good on paper, if anything Gaben helped publishers in his approach by debilitating piracy and taking away physical pc from you
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>>728973589
and consoles are dead now, good job snoydrone, you defeated piracy
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>>728973497
>suck sony's dick more you retarded snoydrone
Wasn't a tendie, anon? You're not very consistent at your scapegoat flinging

>consoles are dead and for a good reason
Stop missing the point on purpose; technology is dead. Prepare for HDD price raising next year
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>>728973672
>gaming is dead
we have known this since 2010s. You're not saying anything new
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PSA for anyone unaware
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>>728973734
lmao consoles are not gaming, they're DRM boxes which were a technological dead end. Good fucking riddance
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>>728952961
I haven't gamed much on my linux machine yet. So far it seems like some games "just werk" despite not running in newer versions of windows without modding, which is neat. I heard I can more or less use steam as a compatibility layer for windows games, how does that work? Just add them to the steam library and run them through steam?
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>>728973839
>gaming systems are not gaming
Did you think they were candy suppliers or anything?
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>>728973143
>who don't know shit
If they're simply mistaken then it's not a lie. The word "lie" implies intent to decieve, or in other words, it implies that they know piracy is not an obstacle to sales but for some other reason care about piracy enough that they want others to think sales are threatened by it.
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>>728973919
stop being disingenuous, snoydrone. There is still time to build a gaming PC
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>>728973589
>Gaben helped publishers in his approach by debilitating piracy
By making a service that was as convenient or easy as piracy. Even in 2004 there was in software DRM. If you were lucky there were keygens or cracks, but not every title got it's DRM cracked back then. Just like today.
>and taking away physical pc from you
Show me 100+ gb physical media. Every modern final fantasy is 100+ gb. CoD is over 100gb. Almost Every major studio title released today is larger than a 4k blu ray can hold. A triple layer bd can hold 100gb. Final fantasy 15 came out at like 150gb.
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>>728974057
>Show me 100+ gb physical media. Every modern final fantasy is 100+ gb. CoD is over 100gb. Almost Every major studio title released today is larger than a 4k blu ray can hold. A triple layer bd can hold 100gb. Final fantasy 15 came out at like 150gb.
And that happened because Gaben won btw.
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>>728952961
if you told me all my vidya would work on linux I'd drop microjeet this second
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>>728974003
>snoy cope
As I get older, the farther I get from PC. Don't try to shill it to me, not gonna work

>there's still time
Imagine believing this. You're a decade late.
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>>728974138
If he has that much power despite his company never making games anymore then I can only respect it.
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>>728974208
you're just mentally ill then
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>>728973876
that works for dx9 and newer games since those are supported by proton directly and you just enable proton compatibility and they should just work
for older games you have to either deal with wine or buy it on steam since they solve it by packing them with their dependencies and libraries, just adding it won't work unless the game is very simple and works on base wine
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>>728974256
He doesn't; it's a house of cards about to collapse the moment he leaves or dies. Slow decline isn't a good thing, which was the choice for PC
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>>728974171
The only games that don't work on Linux are genuine multiplayer goyslop meant for turdworlders
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>>728974289
Dealing with Windows for years can do that, I agree that much
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>>728974387
>Gaben literally changed the world of PC gaming and physical media
>He doesn't have the power to do that though
You're making him sound more and more badass every reply
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>>728974387
this cope again lmao, why would steam die if he leaves, they're never going public and he'll pick a good successor
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>>728974462
>it was Gaben's fault publishers having the upper hand
>now physical is rare
>games are bloated mess
>the platform is saturated with indieshit and low tier quality releases
>all for... +80% discounts and sweet deals
>for a while
>All while he does nothing while drones idolize him
The most badass cuck of all time lol. Trends are a dangerous thing, anon
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>>728974549
>why would steam die if he leaves, they're never going public and he'll pick a good successor
Steam's period ended years ago, also there was a concept built arund stuff like that called enshitification. Mind you; a "successor" is exactly the kind of shit vegans of all audiences should be against, a fucking dynasty?! C'mon now
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>>728974630
>more games and discounts are... LE BAD
go fuck yourself you whining consoledrone subhuman, I can't wait for nintendo to die after sony
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>>728974630
>muh physical
it matters on consoles because you can't actually do anything with them and it takes years of autists working to jailbreak them
steam drm can be cracked within 30 seconds and you control your files regardless
it doesn't fucking matter
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>>728974726
>schizophrenic meaningless anecdotes and rambling
go to bed granpa
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>>728974726
>you should be against a system being carefully controlled by people who care
fuck off retard, ford v dodge
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>>728974859
>anecdotes
I know you're contanined only in your parent's basement irl and online, no need to enforce the point.

>>728974758
>shitty games BUT with average discount
Silence, Smithers. 90% off good shit or bust
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>>728974948
>Advocating for feudal lords now
the absolute state of pc gaymers
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>>728974980
>pivoting
>average discounts
you don't find anything even remotely close to that on consoles especially in the nintendo store
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>>728975090
>advocating for raping your customers to benefit clueless boomers
consolecucks are actual fucking products to be harvested
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>>728975090
you were defending walled gardens i.e. digital oligarchies you retarded moron, i know you're fucking brown
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>download zorin
>get steam and figure out wine for vns
>everythings looking good and games are running smooth
>out of nowhere the file manager stops working
>cant look up anything and cant get into my game folders
>look up how to fix this and find numerous threads on this issue
>install, reinstall nautilus, change to x11 and so forth
>finally someone says to reinstall zorin without nvidia drivers
>dawns on me that i cant even fucking go through my files without the gpu drivers acting as some sort of bug
Im glad i duel booted I just wiped that ssd and moved on
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>>728975096
It's the same shit for the most part. The point you're missing is; games aren't that attractive anymore with different number in the discount, none is worth
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>>728975247
>It's the same shit for the most part.
absolutely not, you're lucky you can find a 50% discount after multiple years, and physical console games are retardedly expensive
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>>728975217
gnome, not even once
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>>728974630
>Snoycuck having a melty.
You like to buy games at full price. Not everyone else does.
Gaben worship is just a meme. It's the rest of the industry that makes the meme real. If there was a single company that behaved even somewhat as pro-consumer as valve, those memes would die. But PlayStation took away the ability to install other operating systems on their(not yours) hardware way back with the PS3. Meanwhile valve is saying pic related.
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>>728970937
Bro, I've heard Mint being "finnicky" with Steam and Linux gaming in general.
Try another distro, like EndeavourOS-
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>>728975163
>>728975189
>B-but
Nigger, in bussines there are no such thing as abstracts like ethics or moral, let alone ideas of your fat fuck "caring" about you. You're the same prey to be harvested but on other platform and with a smile as if eager (which can also be said about console brand elitists)
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>>728974405
I heard nvidia graphics cards don't work well with linux
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>>728975330
>physical console games are retardedly expensive
$50-70 isn't that expensive. Over $15 for digital is (regardless the platform) imo
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>>728975353
>Nigger, in bussines there are no such thing as abstracts like ethics or moral
cope
valve is actively pushing for freedom with linux while your console goycorp is only tightening the leash as time goes on
don't project your shit circumstances onto others when all consolecucks are always getting raped by dodge v ford
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>>728975348
>Gaben worship is just a meme.
Yeah, just like snoy worship. You're in for a rude awakening if you really believe that
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>>728975353
>i-i-i'm not a snoycuck i'm a hapless bystander
go fuck yourself, steam is objectively better than console games or their stores, that's a fact and it should be enough

>>728975429
>pivoting again
mentally ill subhumans like who don't admit they're wrong should be llined up and shot
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>>728975429
>Modern physical console games have the game on it
No they don't. Most cases it's a disc that has a key that allows you to play a game that your console downloaded. It's all digital shithead. Physical is just digital with extra steps.
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>>728975449
>doubling down
Please, don't stop; stay whiteknighting Valve. I'm not trying to change what you do, I know the outcome already

>don't project your shit circumstances onto others when all consolecucks are always getting raped by dodge v ford
Don't assume shit you have no certainty
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>>728975416
that's not really true
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>>728975349
How annoying is it to swap distros on linux?
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>>728975580
post hand, brownoid
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>>728975520
>go fuck yourself, steam is objectively better than console games or their stores, that's a fact and it should be enough
>not being an idort
Also; consoles freeshops ARE better than Steam. Unless you find a Steam but free that is. Stay seething

>>728975526
Don't buy fake physical like most do.
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>>728975634
Backup important shit. It's as easy as it was installing mint unless you want to install Gentoo.
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>>728975663
>uhm actually I'm merely pretending to be retarded
there is 0 reason for consoles to exist and console gaming to exist today, besides the controller which works on pc too
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>>728975580
you're desperately trying to equate valve with your console goy corp that actively fights you being able to control your device
switch 2 has an atrocious screen, horribly unergonomic controllers and a pathetic phone tier battery and they're extremely butthurt about security since their device becomes obsolete with emulation
hope you're enjoying dodge v ford in effect!
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>>728975830
you lost statcounter jeet
funnily enough not even your website supports your claims now
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>>728975914
Cope harder, fagpak linjeet.
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>>728975815
>there is 0 reason for consoles to exist and console gaming to exist today
Not being PC. Also, PC price raising ensures their angle to be the cheaper option being more noticeable even if all are getting buttfucked but you are only staying on one side instead of looking the whole picture

>>728975827
>you're desperately trying to equate valve with your console goy corp that actively fights you being able to control your device
Stop assuming shit like an idiot, please

>switch 2 has an atrocious screen
It's not that bad, just a little ghosty
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>>728975953
good luck next thread!
maybe you'll find actual proof of jeets using linux at a rate higher than 2% out of the 14% of the world population sometime!
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>>728976008
ok so you're a brown ESL tendie subhuman, nintendo is infinitely more anti-consume than valve ever was and you're defending it over valve, true browncattle mentality
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>>728976008
there's nothing to assume here, you're actively whiteknighting for consoles that fight against freedom while shitting on valve who expands them

>just a little ghosty
funny way to describe that it's not even 30hz compliant
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>>728976103
You mean like the ~4x more desktop usage on average compared to the rest of the world? Stop using shit software, linjeet. It's bad for your lsblk.
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>>728976165
>le anti consumer
>le tendie
Snoy or tendie? Make up your fucking mind already
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>>728976279
can you give a source for that that isn't as unquestionably atrocious and incompetent as statcounter?
oh wait, you can't
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>>728976257
>you're actively whiteknighting for consoles that fight against freedom while shitting on valve who expands them
No, that's your'e assumption from your perspective. Steam is not the good guy you're trying to advocate for

>le freedom
The consumer really doesn't care about those memes, it's beyond time you accept that.
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>>728976351
>it actually doesn't count saar
Linjeets are so cringe.
>>
China is taking over. Wukong 3 may be Chinese Linux exclusive.
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>>728976410
valve is actively pushing open source and breaking down barriers while consoles can't survive without them
so yes, they are

>The consumer really doesn't care about those memes,
oh, so you actually benefit from dodge v ford? should've said that sooner tendiekike, that's fucking pathetic
guess we should take away your freedom to speak since you're using it to spout this fucking nonsense
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>>728976410
Steam is the BETTER guy compared to consoles.
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>>728976593
>how dare you leak shart life 2, I'll hecking kill your goyim
Valve is trash.
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>>728976593
>valve is actively pushing open source and breaking down barriers while consoles can't survive without them
so yes, they are
2 sides of the same coin, you'd make yourself a favour not assuming one specific side is your friend.

>guess we should take away your freedom to speak since you're using it to spout this fucking nonsense
>he doesn't realize this already happened
Ok
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>>728976414
>trust data collected from niggers.xyz and asdadwa.co.ck sir!!!, unknown showing up as the second biggest os is totally normal!!
>>
Gog needs to finally bring over galaxy
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>>728976683
No. Only if you look for cheap shit, for that it's the undisputed. Personally, I'm fine not buying digital stuff
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>>728976905
Yes, if you look for buying ANY games, if you don't then piracy
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>>728976765
>my mom beating and starving me and your mom caring for you and feeding you are two sides of the same coin
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>>728976829
Go make a pull request for a readme.md file or something, linjeet.
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>>728976905
also your consolejeet bias is showing, brownoid
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>>728977074
>twitter screenshots
you're not even trying now
come on, give me my last (you), you've given up on your original premise yet again and you will do so again in the future
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>>728977010
Correct, both moms hate your guts; one at least is open about it.
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>>728977082
You do know you can buy digital on consoles too, right?
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>>728977205
Why are there so many troonix conferences in India, linjeet?
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>>728977283
alright then, we've resolved this, tendies are legitimately mentally ill
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>>728977423
>tendies
So now you're not assuming a snoy?
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>>728977459
different people sperg
imagine admitting your mother didn't love you and thinking it's a universal fucking experience
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>>728977537
>imagine admitting your mother didn't love you
Primal responses, anon. A woman hold grudges too easily. You wanna argue about that now?
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Hear me out. I bet MS will release a Windows Classic edition at some point. Like even normalfags use debloat scripts and ltsc at this point. Their reputation is on rock bottom. Also despite CEO's AI faggotry, no one uses Copilot.
>>728952961
Already do
>>728955081
>Not to the same extent as on linux though
You do need to enable Directplay and legacy WMP for support. If you're on ltsc Windows you need even vp9 and other codecs for games. But tbf those work globally unlike on Linux where you have to set / game (unless one prefix).
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>>728978212
no one at microsoft actually cares what happens to windows
it's nowhere close to being the big money maker and its shareholders as well as the ceo all love the ai meme
all the talent that made 95, 2000, xp and 7 is long gone
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>>728975830
The website deleted those states because they were incorrect
kill yourself microdick worshipper
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i think the enshittification of windows and the fact that everything can be run in a proton wrapper now is going to lead to a big jump in linux users. i switched over this week after a hardware failure where i had to reinstall the os.
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>>728978926
>going to lead to a big jump in linux users
2 more weeks, trust the plan
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>>728979086
i mean it'll probably be slow, so not a big jump, if there are more people like me who are forced to pick between windows 11 and linux because of upgrades. i was going to reinstall 10 but my recovery usb didn't even have the option even though i made it years ago.
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this nigga killed my linux install after he started fucking with the files after a bios update
for this crime i've cut him down to the bare minimum going folder by folder and he's still 67gb even though there's basically nothing installed
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>>728978714
>DELET!!!!!
>RAPORT!!!!
>SHIT IT DOWN!!!
>DAAAAA MICROSOFT!!!!!!!!
Linjeets are pathetic streetshiters.
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>>728979086
a lot of people are switching already if you look at it through the filter of a westerner who can pass the iq check of being able to install an iso
all that needs to happen is big volume linux hardware for it to start making big gains
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If you look in the steam folder, there is an ubuntu folder there.
That IS an ubuntu.
Thanks to chroot, you can just run a linux inside a linux.
It's how valve makes linux natives always compatible, it just use the system files inside that ubuntu.
There's no performance loss or emulation or anything, but it's pretty weird and cool.
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>>728980121
Ive always wondered why steam is constantly talking to the ubuntu server if i have it running in the terminal, that IS cool desu.
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>>728980121
Why do that after sinking so much time and money into arch
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>>728981820
ubuntu is what steam started with when valve first said they were supporting linux. its what steamOS was first based on. then steamOS 2.0 was debian based, now steamos 3.0 is arch based. the runtime probably just works so why "fix" it? just continue using the ubuntu runtime and use the tooling you have until you need to make drastic changes.
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>>728952961
fix nvidia being shit on linux then I'll think about it
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>>728980121
>Thanks to chroot, you can just run a linux inside a linux.
Neat
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>>728982014
retard here, but ubuntu fucking itself down the line wont fuck up this runtime will it? like is it using the latest version of ubuntu? or how does that work?
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Linux is literally a scam to get you to pay for windows
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>>728987386
You retards PAY for your shitty OS?
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>>728971440
I can run all of my games no issues
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>>728952961
I already am.
>fedora
It is the middle point where I believe myself too good for Ubuntu and Debian, but not nearly austic enough for Arch.
Plus it is almost retard proof.

Anyways
>Playan
-Postal, the first one.
Did you know it is open source now and there are NO mods as of now.
Sadly I have no idea what to do since it is mostly C files and some Visual Studio stuff.
I only wanted to make the M16 not ASS.

Half Life 2 unironically runs better now than it did on Windows, then it is like 15 years worth of support and it shows.

Master Duel, I am surprised it works at all.
Sadly Modern YGO is still gay as fuck and chinks materialize Maxx C in their opening hand 90% of the time.

So, how do I make GOG werk on Fedora? I believe I am restricted to Steam because it comes with Proton out of the box.
While GOG seems to be mostly Windows based only.
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arch usually works
fedora doesn't
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>>728988205
Really bad bait
Stop projecting
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>>728964909
Microsoft went out their way to make >5 year old hardware unsuable for no fucking reason.
>Muh TPM motherfucker
The only BIOS level security feature that matters is enabling virtualization since all OS right now use a virtualization layer to defend itself against malware and even then by allowing Kernel level drivers on "Trusted Installations" completely undermines that.
Anyone who NEEDS to encrypt their disk is not trusting fucking bitlocker.
Everything else is vendor bullshit that is for some reason inside consumer grade equipment. Why does a fucking low end $80 motherboard need Intel Raid nonsense?
So because of the deprecated TPM, every windows user gets the alert that their PC is not compatible with Windows 11 regardless if it is any good hardware wise.

Furthermore, the requirements for Win as an OS are beyond retarded now.
126Gb used to be serviceable for Windows, but every large software vendor absolutely fucking needs to install their shit on the C:\ drive. Why? Well you need 256Gb Minimum for Windows.
I mean Linux is not far off the mark. I remember the days when 20Gb was enough to run a virtual machine, now OS installations are in the 60Gb mark which means 126Gb to be safe.
Oh and the Ram, 16Gb of ram ain't shit in 2025 for Windows.

The nail in the coffin is the scareware notice that Windows 10 is not getting more updates.
I mean, fine, it is 15 year old OS now. Funny enough Win 10 has been around longer than WIn 7 and Win 8 was thankfully aborted. But Windows 11 lacks pretty basic functions like a way to create a reliable backups or something like a system snapshot. You still rely on 3rd parties for that.

The situation is that 2016-2020 hardware is not yet quite shit the same way PCs from the early 2000s were, or how PCs in the 90s moved on so fast you were talking about a different animal every 4 years.
The party had to end at some point but hardware of this period is still fine for a lot of use cases.
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>>728982790
It is unironically better now.
Even the first iteration Nvidia released begrudgingly works now.
I swear I am not a jeet, adn bear with me, but Linux base will increase just because LLMs make it easier to troubleshoot anything. It is like those little computers you connect to your car to know what the code means. It saves you a lot of trouble.
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>>728952961
Much like everyone else, I will not.
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>troonix
>gayming
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>>728988241
only if you say please
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>>728978212
>Also despite CEO's AI faggotry, no one uses Copilot.
Shame because much like Bing, it was at some point better than the competition (In some aspects) but it carries Microsoft stigmata much like Hellblade II, reason one cares. Copilot is essentially what Cortana should had been.

Gemini on the other hand is a fucking piece of shit feed mostly by reddit, and often lies.
Now I know saying anything positive about MS brands you as a jeet, I know, but credit where is due, I have seen worse.

I am also the anon who wrote:
>>728988494
Just to be clear.
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>>728980121
>Thanks to chroot, you can just run a linux inside a linux.
If you wonder why HL3 is taking forever, it is because of this.
Implementing that so the end user can experience a hassle free enviroment is essentially wizardy.
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>>728987986
Heroic launcher
>>728988686
Get a job or a brain retard
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>>728988893
LOL
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>>728988986
>Get a job or a brain retard
You are on troonix gayming thread, you don't have a job bro lol
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>>728981820
stable and one less thing to maintain. just look at how many docker images run on ubuntu.
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>>728989052
Excuse me?
>>728987738
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>>728988609
Yeah people really underestimate this. LLMs know EVERYTHING about my Linux distro I ask the AI something extremely specific and niche that only I have probably a need for and it just makes the best bash script for it with zero issues.

Linux will win the OS wars because windows and macos just don't have this intimate understanding from LLMs because they aren't open source so the llm isn't trained on it.
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>>728989292
so it's okay to vibecoding your OS now?
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I have yet to find a game that doesn't run on Linux.
But I don't play rootkits disguised as video games.
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>>728989487
No. It's that if you have an issue or want to do something you can ask an LLM and they will exactly know what the issue is in great detail like they were the original creators of Linux themselves because the LLM trainers trained focused a lot on making the LLM train on all the Linux code in existence because most of internet servers run on Linux so it's very important for LLMs to be good at it.

For us gamers it just means that when I want to play some niche 1988 Japanese exclusive game and want to make a translation patch I can literally just ask the LLM to write a script to make it run on my distro of Linux, then ask it to make a script to extract the Japanese text, read the text, make a translation and write a script to put the English text back in and then start the game. And it just works.

You can't do that on windows or macos because the LLM doesn't know how windows or macos works under the hood. For Linux it knows and is massively trained on every single line of code it uses so it is an autistic genius savant on configuring and fixing Linux shit.
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>>728952961
Maybe when I get an amd gpu again. Last I heard, nvidia drivers are fucking shit on linux.
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>>728989292
Just the other day someone was wondering why his games stopped working and it turns out it was because he used an LLM provided script that deleted all his Wine devices. You need to be extra careful with this stuff
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>>728989938
Yeah he probably just asked the free shitty chatgpt something as a normalfags.

I mean people technical enough to pirate games and navigate folder structures. You should still tell the AI to explain what it does line by line in non technical terms to prevent stuff like that.
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>>728989938
LMAO troonix moment
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>>728989487
>so it's okay to vibecoding your OS now?
No, but if you ask anyone to read 10 hours worth of man pages and learn how to use the terminal in an environment where -v and -V can mean two different things altogether, they will go back crawling to Windows.

Most issues new users have with Linux stem from getting the Nvidia drivers to work.
And that is not something your Iq 300 Giga brain can figure it out because most of that information was deliberately obfuscated by Nvidia until recently when thanks to the AI bubble they decided to play nice because the money they could get from windows prebuilts was slim pickings compared to the money dumped on them to thanks to market manipulation and hype, and yet still, that is only for PCs with recent hardware. Their old suite is AMD tier.

So either you vibe code your way out of wait 3-4 weeks for someone in stack overflow or the official forums to drop in to help you. Newer distros, like those used for gaming demand you to use a discord, and the very first set of rules bans transphobic content but the community will try to help you out with shit like getting OBS to work.
And have in mind we are in this situation because Microsoft wants to make W11 such a fucking piece of shit, your only other option after Gendo \ Loonix is a Mac, a console and your Phone.

The reality is that we are between a rock and a hard place.
We understand you are mega austitic, but play nice with the noobs.
Every normie not using Windows, is a victory.
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>>728989757
Depends, for RTX series they just work.
For older stuff, it took me an afternnon if only because I was stubborn on how I was approaching the problem.
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>>728952961
A reminder that universal blue is the best "just werks" distro right now especially if you don't want bazzite faggotry
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I main linux, I've found old games that were made for windows barely ever work but those same games almost always work on linux for some reason.

Shit lilke Dungeon siege is unplayable on windows, works just fine on linux
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>>728990684
true but bazzite is the only one with steam on the image unfortunately
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Trying cachy for the last couple days, any tips?
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>>728989487
It's still not OK to pass AI work to others, but for gathering personal information it can be a good way to get a jumpstart on finding an issue without first going through the cycle of Arch wiki to Gentoo wiki to searching for your issue on Reddit to searching for your issue on some random forum.
You obviously don't let it write a script for you, because that would be retarded as hell, but it does give you some things to check and try.
>>728989721
It might still not know if something is obsolete, outdated or inapplicable thoughbeit. It doesn't really know anything or understand real context, it's just good at pretending that it does. You definitely can't blindly trust it and need some understanding of how you would solve the problem if this was something you found on a forum instead.
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>>728969343
>Which demand you a controller or arcade stick to be played properly
No they don't. they are perfectly playable on average keyboard with only downside being it is not offline event viable, at that point you just get yourself hitbox which is just a fancy keyboard.
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even without taking games into account, windows is superior to linux and im tired of pretending its not
claiming linux is superior is what tech npcs regurgitate without questioning or thinking, because at this point its just been ingrained that linux is for techies and windows is for normies, because linux makes heavier use of shit like terminal instead of gui so autismos flock to it
in reality if you're a power user windows is still superior and linuxtards constantly use retarded double standards to criticize windows over shit that's easily fixed, has better software offerings and maturity etc
you're legit retarded if you fall for the linux psyop and consider yourself a tech patrician
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That's nice but I'm still not using NTFS on my Gen 5 SSD.
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I think Ill buy a macbook
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>>728992293
>Be a Windows power user
>Need to make use of Linux and Linux emulation like WSL2, Cygwin, etc. anyway alongside tools like Winget, Powershell, etc. while running your Windows machine in a PCI passthrough VM running Linux as host if you want to get full functionality
Just running Linux requires less Linux knowledge than running Windows.
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>>728992597
This is true. I switched to Linux because it required too much tinkering to use windows like I wanted to use it.
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>Troonix
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opinions?
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>>728953454
Depends on what you are looking for.
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>>728959035
Don't use that broken piece of shit, stick with ext4 for now.
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I'm using Bazzite until SteamOS is out. Even then it probably won't run properly due to Nvidia
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>>728977210
This is an ARG for your game, right anon?
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>>728970304
Speed tests on windows can really vary depending on your config i mean my windows is half my own at this point 3.2 seconds to boot from power to desktop loaded, 10+ for steam to load in. never static on speed.
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>>728952961
Keep making these threads, they discourage me to ever switch to the same platform as you schizos
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10 LTSC works fine though. Even without any debloat or "muh privacy" executables. I've been using xp/7/10 for 20 years, I won't be switching until Linux has a UX on par with windows.

I've had to open the console on windows like five times ever. I've had to hit the power button to force a restart a couple times. In 20 years. Can Linux offer the same level of stability and software support?
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>>728995838
Stay on your agentic OS with vibe coded Nvidia drivers then
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I tried using Linux and the niche games I wanted to play I was unable to. The user interface is horrible and Linux devs refuse to add GUI for programs and do everything on console. No, I don't like to make sudo apt update every single time

I want to use Linux, but it is death by a thousand cuts and most of the programs I need do not work with Linux. I will continue to use windows 10 ltsc for some years, by 2032 I hope there is some OS that just works.
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>>728996064
What
My update process involves pressing the up arrow once, it landing on paru -Syu --noconfirm, pressing enter, typing the su password, pressing enter again and tabbing out until it's done
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>>728995979
>I've used computers for 20 years and never learned to actually use them
Terminal is legitimately a faster and cleaner way to do shit than going through annoying guis every time
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>>728996385
I'll take that as a "no."
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>>728996064
this would not be a lie maybe around 2010
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>>728996476
Feel free to keep taking shots in the dark thinking you're some experienced power user when you'd rather go through websites and guis over typing out install application in the terminal
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Why does a little penguin cause so much seethe on /v/?
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>>728996643
I'll just keep using windows and not being a hipster faggot lol
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>>728979480
microsoft is literally run by an indian and the majority of windows "engineers" are indians
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>>728996215
This has to be trolling, there is no way you are this oblivious. Then you wonder why no one uses Linux.
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>>728996651
retards can't into linux and they're only capable of seething at linuxchads using the superior OS
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>>728952961
can you not? I use linux so I can click on things without thinking and if enough people use linux, people will write viruses for it
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>>728996670
Keep your power user fantasy then baby boy
I've also used windows for 20 years and it took me 3 days to readjust 2 months ago
You've been swimming in the kiddy pool and your "experience" is entirely contained to navigating simple guis and you're wearing your learning difficulties on your sleeve
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>>728996725
Many distros pack that functionality into a single system update button like bazzite
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>>728952961
computer are my hobby so I chudded out pretty early and right after mastering linux on some cheap used netbook, I installed gentoo on the PC,
because of the hell that is rust and compiling llvm I moved to Artix and this is what I run most of the time, may switch back to gentoo tho as I am more experienced by now, but I will test this shit on a vm to maximize the joy of my experience and minimize the suffering.
>it's a vidya board nigger, go back to /g/
yes, I do play vidya, only pirated, rarely online unless they support online outside of steam, I play old games on emulators these days anyway, but if I wanna play some PC games, I go to GOG and never had a problem with it, just gotta learn it like every other tool
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>>728997765
>only pirated
Turn yourself in to the police
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>>728992293
You are not a power user. Windows is not bad if you run a debloat script and then use the OS like the average normie. As a power user, though, it's ultra pain. It's less bad now in Windows 11 with WSL2 and shit like that, but if you're a power user who cares about customization or having any control over what's on your system it's still ultra pain. There are way too many walls trying to keep you from doing anything.
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>>728952961
Test
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>>728998946
you won the dick sucking competition with this one, faggot
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>>728952961
If you're running Windows in [current year], then you're effectively financing and facilitating Microsoft's botnet with your hardware and bandwidth. Imagine wasting 4-6gb of RAM on the worst OS on the market.
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>>728961208
>nvidia
serves you right for financing the kikes
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>>728996651
success breeds jealousy
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>>728952961
>You WILL game on Linux!
Did Nvidia fix the bug where DX12 games perform 20% worse than on Windows?
No?
Then I wont be gaming on Linux just yet.
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>>728961208
amd's newest drivers support gcn1 now
you chose wrong
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how do i make alt tab work in new vegas?
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>>729005614
If you can run it in a window (KDE can make it borderless FS) that's one way to make it work. Gamescope is the nuclear solution as it hides the alt tab event from the game altogether. Wine also has fullscreen emulation which may help: Wine control panel > Display > Tick image related, though I think it's still kinda experimental
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>>728952961
Nah. I'm too stupid for Linux. Come back when there is a distro that is as idiot-proof and idiot-accessible as Windows.
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i installed hammer++ with darker++ and got it working yesterday... source bros we're... home
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>>729006868
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Any good gaming notebooks with ONLY AMD CPU and GPUs you guys could recommend?
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>>729009930
>notebook
so that's what? less than $500?
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>>729010287
Laptop or notebook, whatever works, just wanna one myself that's portable. Price isn't a concern.
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currently making my way through OpenGothic NOTR and R-Type Tactics on PPSSPP
Debian Trixie w/ backports and Cinnamon. very comfy.
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>>729010408
then just buy the framework 16 with the amd gpu compartment
it's expensive as shit but it's upgradable down the line where you just swap out the part you want to upgrade instead of just ram and drives like with regular laptops
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>>729009930
I just got an all AMD factory refurb'ed HP laptop that's been doing really well with Linux for about 6 months now. got it for around $500.
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>>728952961
No. I’m super straight (SS) so I won’t be gaming on Troonix.
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>>729011085
but are you white?
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>>728952961
>fedora
fitting for a linux user
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>>728952961
Im on Fedora for half a year now and other than some small graphical glitches in one game (out of, like, 10) everything just worked out of the box. Pretty sure with some tinkering the graphical glitches would be easy to fix too. Fucking MH Wilds unironically worked better than on Windows. Its actually crazy how far Linux came.
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>>729009930
something with ryzen ai 9 max 395+ probably
the rdna3 laptops just disappeared
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>>728952961
So which distro should i use for vidya & local AI sloppa generation?
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>>729012613
debian if you want something stable but old as shit
arch if you want new stuff as soon as possible but kinda unstable
either way you'll fuck something up eventually and have to do something about it down the line
so just use whatever there's not much difference for someone new
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>>728960998
>Btrfs is just the next gen FS for Linux
only if it wasn't for its rushed implementation which caused thousands of irrecoverable filesystem errors that destroyed people data
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>>729012613
distros aren't that different
the only real distinction is between the distro base
arch has constant updates but it requires more competence
fedora is less scary and more stable but at the same time less cutting edge
debian is dinosaur shit that updates once every few months
when it comes to particular distros themselves it's just vibes, pick whatever you think looks cool and as long as it's still in active development it's fine
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>>728952961
Which version of Mint does everyone use? Cinnamon?
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>>728953128
Freeciv.
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>>729014013
I use xfce
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I bought a Mac since it's obv they're going to switch to ARM for the next gabecube.
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I'll be honest I didn't do enough tests, but on my 9070xt I still get lower performance than on Windows with some games like Control. I'm not sure if DX12+raytracing means instant performance hit on linux. All I'm sure is Linux gives me 70fps, Windows gives me 80, all maxed out.
Also something that bothers me now I switched back is that I remember KDE plasma allowing me to quickly go into window rules settings, and now it won't. Maybe it's just me. I need this because I want to disable VRR on a program by program basis (because of VRR flicker with shit that doesn't need it), but it gets increasingly annoying. Did they change this in Plasma 6 or am I remembering wrong guys?
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Continuing to use any version of Windows contributes to Microshit's monopoly.
No matter if you use 7/LTSC or whatever, you're still stuck in their ecosystem.
It's the same with how Adobe would rather have people pirate their software than actually use alternatives.
Microshit wants as many slaves as possible using their software so they can harvest your data to use in their AI models.
Switch to Linux and become free.
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>>729014636
retard
arm =/= arm
apple isn't going to give a shit about gaming regardless of how much work valve puts into it
it's literally the same situation as nvidia
their work on arm was obviously for the headsets since qualcomm is pretty workable when it comes to their snapdragon SoCs
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>>728952961
I just want to play video games, I don't care about tinkering.
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>>729014798
forgot to mention, phones too
there's no need to make a low power arm deck that will be competing with gaming phone manufacturers now that sony's xperia play patent expired
best valve can do is make arch linux arm more mobile friendly so it spreads to phones
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>>729014798
Yeah yeah, tell me that when I'm dual booting SteamOS next year
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>tinker
pic rel

>>728952961
I'm using Ubuntu, it has better AMD driver support than Windows so I'm able to use ROCm for my AI memework and I'm more comfortable running old multiplayer games like CoD MW2 in a flatpak than running it on Windows.
Going to get one of those gabecubes for my wife since she wants to try Linux
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>>728953128
that's the PS5 lil chump
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>>729015195
lol
if you think nvidia drivers suck you better brace yourself for apple drivers
you can't just code your way through proprietary blobs
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linux is pretty cool tbdesu
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>>729016621
>"i was told i need to wear glasses and i don't know why" tier of ui scale
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>>729016725
its normal 100% scaling with normal font size anon
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>>728968232
If a game doesn't launch move it to a partition that isn't NTFS. Linux sucks monkey dick for anything related to microsoft and NTFS is one of them.
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>>729016913
i know what it is, the same ppi as my oled and i can't imagine not doing at least 125%
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What's a good distro if I like Mint XFCE? Or should I just keep using Mint XFCE? I've been using Mint on my Thinkpad and my old 580 rig and I like it, but I've heard it's not great for gaymen because it uses outdated packages.
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>>729017113
>oledfag
>can't read text at normal scaling
we warned you bro
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>>729017113
Just set the dpi to 110. I'm at the point where I need reading glasses at 96.
>t. old
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>>729017547
>normal scaling
higher ppi means text gets smaller
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Last time I tried using mint:
It seems there is a bug that if you cut-paste files sometimes, the progress bar goes slower and slower and the copying speed goes slower and slower until it goes almost for infinity.

If you cancel the operation and disconnect, Linux deletes/corrupts the files IN BOTH DRIVES.

With windows I always know where the copying progress is and I've never had any problems with cut-paste.
>You aren't supposed to use cut-paste
Then why is your OS giving me the option?

If Linux fails at something so simple like moving files and I can't be sure my data will not become corrupt, then why the fuck should I use Linux?
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>>729017526
xfce is still on x11 and wayland xfce is still experimental
you're outdated already, being more outdated doesn't matter all that much
you can always just pick something arch or fedora based like cachyos or bazzite and run kde on that until xfce moves to wayland
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>>729017693
>I'm at the point where I need reading glasses at 96.
Don't feel bad. Most 96-year-olds have pretty bad eyesight.
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>>729018083
works on my machine
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>>728979185
>if there are more people like me who are forced to pick between windows 11 and linux because of upgrades
I'd stay or go back to another windows version that works or drop using a computer at all. That having to renew and get a new computer is too grating
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>>729018083
i've fucked my cut and pasting plenty of times on windows until i learned my lesson
just don't use it is the answer, better safe than sorry, you're gambling digging around with recovery software because you don't want to do 2 more clicks
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>>729018259
This is why people will never use Linux
>>729018404
I don't usually do it, specially if I have some important data, but I did it with some files and Linux couldn't even do that right, that k God I had a backup.

The fact that it doesn't have some protective measures by default it's bonkers to me.

I've had a few times that cut-paste corrupted the data, but only the current file that was being operated on, not the whole drive. It's crazy.
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>>729017113
anon my primary displays are a 34" ultrawide and a 32" 4k, the 27" 4k is a drawing monitor
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>>729018956
>This is why people will never use Linux
>>729018083
>cut-paste files
>If you cancel the operation and disconnect, Linux deletes/corrupts the files IN BOTH DRIVES.
Try only copying them next time. It's the same thing for windows. It's more likely for that file and folder have a problem than the system itself
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Sit the fuck down and be humbled wincuck
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh-0nBrU-CM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh-0nBrU-CM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh-0nBrU-CM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh-0nBrU-CM
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>>729018083
>>729018404
>>729018956
>>729019623
None of this makes any sense. The only sane way to implement file cut-paste would be to do the same thing mv does, or the file browser's drag move. Which would be to either do a cheap rename if you're on the same volume, or to copy and then delete. There's no reason to delete the original file until you're done. Much less to somehow corrupt either filesystem. I just don't believe it
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>>729020206
cut should not even be a function to begin with
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Once Steam OS officially drops then I'm making the switch, I cant stand windows anymore
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>>729020206
I don't remember how it was exactly because I uninstalled no longer after and came back to windows. I do remember being extremely pissed of and frustrated because that was the last straw for me; I lost a whole weekend trying to configure Linux without death by a thousand cuts.

Copy pasting some files I had no trouble in windows took more time and started slowing down and freezing after 20 seconds or so of copying. I couldn't cancel I couldn't stop it and time and time passed and no progress's was being made so I had to forcefully stop it. It happened multiple times so it wasn't a one time corruption. Plus, linuxtards are allergic to a good user interface, so programs that only took downloading and opening an .exe had multiple line commands on the console that were not intuitive at all.

Using Linux is just frustrating and I don't want to waste time and time on it.
>>729020331
It should just be the copy paste and delete functions all in one, assuring that the delete part is only made until it veryfies the files had been copied. That this somehow fails like this shouldn't happen.
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>>729020505
i know bro, i cant wait for valve to make linux useable for normal people
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>>729020505
valve won't bother supporting nvidia and the handholding retard friendly nature of their update cadence means you won't really be able to bruteforce it on there either
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>>729014643
are you dropping in VKD3D-Proton when you run DX12 games? that made a huge performance difference for me. although I usually only run medium-high for newer games anymore w/o ray tracing.
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>>728959432
How far are we from the moment we can forget about Windows like we don't care about consoles because we can get it on pc?
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>>729018083
>the copying speed goes slower and slower until it goes almost for infinity
the bad news is it sounds like one of your drives taking a shit. that happened to me earlier this year and I'm lucky I didn't have corruption after letting the copy process finish after almost three days.
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>>729020505
It never will, valve won't ever tie itself to os level support on custom hardware.
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>>729021352
But I didn't had any problems with windows before and afterwards
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>>728952961
>You WILL game on Linux!
I tried and it was too hard to get non-mainstream games that aren't on steam working. I'm sticking with LTSC windows 10 until support ends in, I think 6 years. Hopefully linux will be in better shape then.
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>>729021284
being able to choose vulkan over dx12 would solve everything going forward
pro software porting can be solved by either more work on wine or those developers bothering to make a port since it's a fraction of the effort compared to what valve has done
when it comes to old games proton is slowly getting backported to old directxes, 7 being the most recent one so that'll solve itself with time
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what debian distro do I use bros
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>>729022125
Install gentoo
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>>729022125
don't
debian is cringe, muh stability isn't even better than fedora distros and you're locked into shit that can't update for months
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>>729021978
>add non steam game to steam
>launch with proton
EZ
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>>729020975
I dunno man, Linux is bad at a lot of things, but not handling files and filesystems. It sounds like your drive was failing. Cut and paste vs drag makes no difference under the hood, but copies slowing down could be failure leading to retries.
This is a common issue when people use checksumming filesystems like btrfs, they see errors about corrupted files and blame the OS or file system, when it's actually the fs detecting data corruption that would otherwise go unnoticed. ntfs doesn't check that stuff so maybe your files are just getting corrupted sometimes and you don't know it
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>>729021091
Valve is downstream of the Linux kernel
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>>729022418
nvidia is an enemy of the linux kernel and they're valve is not taking on the burden of maintaining shit for an actively hostile party
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do you think whoever named fedora linux had just watched the fedoras are awesome video?
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>>729022125
Just use Debian.



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