Which ending of Undertale Yellow holds more canon over the others? Do you believe the theory that all endings happened canonically? More importantly, which ending did you prefer?
all of them have issues but the neutral fight against flowey and the fight against zenith martlet is pure hype moments and aura
>>728955898canon is a spook, it doesn't exist.
I'd rather have both pacifist endings merged, sparing or killing Ceroba won't change that (YOU) are going straight to throw hands with Asgore. But the only substantial change that should happen is that if you don't spare Ceroba, you die alone and if you do spare Ceroba, Starlo/Ceroba/Martlet appear and beg asgore for your life (you're dying anyways).
Clover x Martlet /ss/
>>728957061I will now IMAGINE this sequence of events taking place prior to a "clover revived" story. Perhaps clover goes after asgore again, except the king doesn't defend himself. perhaps martlet stops him because a kid shouldn't carry something like that on his shoulders. kids carrying burdens they shouldn't is a common parental failure in this universe
>>728956416the actual fight against ceroba is really good and isn't whats wrong with the pacifist ending to be fair. the actual final fights in each route are really cool
>>728957601we still don't have a proper explanation for cerebral become super powerful with the mask, clearly a left over from the first draft from when she was a boss monster
>>728957676Its probably all psychosomatic. Monsters powers come primarily from emotion.
>>728957676Buttplug that creates tails for this TAIL-LESS freak of a fox turns her into super monster.
>>728957601I would have liked the fight with Ceroba more if Starlo and Martlet did fucking anything instead of SOMEHOW being oneshotted by Cerobano like seriously, Starlo and Martlet were on alert why the fuck did they get KO immediatelly
>>728957676its clearly the power of hopes and dreams
>>728957774then chujin was wrong and asgore should have gone full underfell to rile them up for war
>>728957819cute little boobsthey would probably feel cute to play with
Oldentale dev here. I'm asking again in /v/ since more people post here.Would any anons here be interested in composing for Oldentale if I used the MIDI format?
>>728957836Most monsters tend to just break if you put them under extreme pressure. Its only ones with strong wills like Ceroba and Undyne that will rise to the challenge.If Asgore went full Underfell, most monsters would probably get so scared or depressed that it would make them physically sick.
Something went wrong with the timeline...
>>728958628now listen here you little shit
>>728958628I don't like the implications of those kids having traits from every combination of the threeI do like that Noelle is here to watch though.
>>728955898I find genocide the most narratively satisfying.- Much ink has already been spilled over how Clover's death in pacifist is a cop-out- I also think the same of flawed pacifist, Asgore shouldn't have been unwinnable and is a huge pivot backwards after Ceroba- Neutral is a thrilling finale, but story-wise doesn't add much to the grand scheme of things, and not being able to ignore or reject Martlet is contrivedIn comparison, genocide is a novel examination of whether or not the general populace of a society bears the sins of its leaders, and it examines these themes in a non presumptuous way. Compared to pacifist, it authentically creates a bittersweet ending, where you're happy Clover could survive, yet you also feel a sense of hollowness succeeding your roaring rampage of revenge.Beyond just the ending, it also manages to hit a decent balance between a purposefully boring level grind and providing interesting route-exclusive content and challenges. It successfully engages me in a way the original genocide route did not.
>>728958994I remember someone saying they made the genocide route last but honestly I have no idea if thats true.
After experiencing the powerlessness feeling instilling by the other two routes, genocides ending is the most cathartic feeling I have ever gotten in my entire life, I laughed like a psycho for 10 minutes straight. Ecstacy, it was so good I had to dedicate half of my next year of life to UTY autism. Good Game MasterSword
My favorite part of Z Martlet is that her theme uses Mega Man X samples, it's such a fucking phenomenal track. Definitely better than Megalovania.
>>728959260thats only for Remedy right? Retribution may be the single best song in the whole game, though I like how A mothers love was ambitious in trying to mix the games original lietmotifs with undertales
>>728959112I seem to recall this too, I believe it was mentioned in the dev streams. I know for a fact that Retribution was the last track composed, crunched out by Sword about a week before release.
>>728959462I was wondering about that, I know a few songs were made by someone else but he did most of the music right? I saw a "dyzal" mentioned on remedy but I didn't really follow yellow while it was being made
>>728959650oh just looked it up, I guess its actually "dylzal". I also saw that "mynewsoundtrack" "arranged" apprehension but it was composed by sword. I'm going to look up what that means now as I'm genuinely clueless
>>728955898Pacifist sucks as an ending and there NEEDS to be a gundown with Ceroba. So I like neutral the best. Pacifist, if you could go to the labs and see what became of Kanako, would be at least a character reason to have it end the way it did.
>>728959650Yeah, he did a lion's share of the work according to the wiki. A quick ctrl+f shows he's credited on about 100 of the 135 songs, whereas the other composers average around 20https://undertaleyellow.wiki.gg/wiki/Category:Music>>728959849I believe arrangement broadly refers to putting together the instrumentation/production, and composition refers to writing the actual sequences of notes
Tranny general
>>728960095ok seeing that, and looking at the descriptions on the videos for apprehension and protocol, that makes sense. >>728960337not a general
>>728958994>In comparison, genocide is a novel examination of whether or not the general populace of a society bears the sins of its leaders, and it examines these themes in a non presumptuous way. Compared to pacifist, it authentically creates a bittersweet ending, where you're happy Clover could survive, yet you also feel a sense of hollowness succeeding your roaring rampage of revenge.There are multiple westerns with exactly the same themes (don't ask me to name them, I don't remember which ones) where the question of "Is it okay to hold the general public accountable for following a leader who is obviously absolutely crazy and will destroy them all?" come up, and I feel pretty confident that Genocide is based on the westerns where the mysterious stranger shows up, guns down almost everyone in town due to the principles of being a decent human being that were thrown away, and leaves. And this is considered a good ending. A bunch of Western games were based on that, too
>>728957676Da Rhoba is just naturally hardcore, the mask does nothing except make her feel like she's cool
>>728959223Cathartic you say?
>>728960095>A quick ctrl+f shows he's credited on about 100 of the 135 songs,>135 songssometimes I forget the massive amount of music that's featured in Undertale and its fangames
>>728960337You're wrong, but if you were right, there would be nothing wrong with it :3
>>728960585Masked Roba is like the strongest monster besides Asgore, even if you believe she has lower stats than Undyne, she still has the best moveset among all monsters, sans Sans.
>>728960603We have Genocide but what about Super Genocide?
>>728960472I think something yellow did right is that it follows undertale in not telling you out of character whether this is actually right or wrong and letting you call the shots. flaws aside, moments like when it hands you the decision to gun down the roba. The movies you're talking about make it more clear what they want you to feel is right I think, but when clover fights zenith martlet, you can get the feelings that clover is justified, while also saying that martlet was justified. I'm not wording this very well but it basically boils down to the game not actually telling you how to feel.
>>728960337Hey buddy, Deltarune thread's two blocks down.
>>728960472>There are multiple westerns with exactly the same themes (don't ask me to name them, I don't remember which ones)I'm going to assume picrel is one of them and check it out. Thank you for the suggestion
>>728960780zenith martlet?
>>728960585seeing this artist get obliterated out of the UTY fandom after he revealed being a chud was kinda funny
>>728960472>I feel pretty confident that Genocide is based on the westerns where the mysterious stranger shows up, guns down almost everyone in town due to the principles of being a decent human being that were thrown away, and leaves.You know, most Kung Fu movies follow the same basic plot.
>>728961084What'd he do?
>>728960965>you can get the feelings that clover is justified, while also saying that martlet was justified. I'm not wording this very well but it basically boils down to the game not actually telling you how to feel.No you're absolutely right. The type of spaghetti westerns I'm talking about would sometimes take a mirror approach, in that everyone in it was absolutely wrong, and doing it for the wrong, selfish reasons.
>>728961296kung fu movies usually have room for mercy on people forced into a bad situation. they're also usually significantly more incompetent than any of the other forces being fought so its easy for the hero to grant that mercy admittedly.dredd 2012 also surprisingly did this which is stretching the topic a bit, but felt relevant enough to mention with all the carnage going on and how pretty much everyone is subject to THE LAW in that universe
>>728955898You idiots, none of the endings are canon and affects the main undertale event.
>>728961381got mad about the queers on reddit
>>728961408something like that is definitely good and fun in the movies and games that go about it like that. there's something enjoyable about that kind of "gritty" story. Still I'm happy that yellow kept the aspect of undertales story telling I was referring to. feels more appropriate for this kind of story
>>728960965>it follows undertale in not telling you out of character whether this is actually right or wrong and letting you call the shotsI find this sentiment understandable for most of UT's neutral routes, but I think genocide is pretty ham fisted in telling you that you're the bad guy, which is part of why I consider it the weakest of the three main routes>>728961296I somehow never made this connection before. Now I'm looking forward to seeing what the orange fangames do even more
>>728961084Didn't he use to post on /v/ about his FnF fangame?Now I wonder what happened to development of this game, seems like nobody talks about it on here
>>728961659yeah he was a regular UTY poster
>>728961408There's a term for that type of western, but it eludes me.
>>728961645>but I think genocide is pretty ham fisted in telling you that you're the bad guyI think its actually saying something more like "this is what you wanted". I get what you're saying, but I just think the actual point was more of a "dont act like this isn't what you were looking for acting like this" which is a small but I think important distinction
>>728961084Man's too based for reddirt
>>728961408there was an UTY fangame anon from /v/ where he wanted to have a showdown between Starlo/Clover vs Ceroba and it was set in a western town due to magic fuckery
>>728961553I wonder if he still posts here.
>>728961084what? when did that happen?
>>728961494>kung fu movies usually have room for mercy on people forced into a bad situation.Those kind of people usually don't exist in kung fu movies. The people who get killed in those are either entirely innocent victims, or completely deserve it.I was just saying most kung fu movies feature "walk in, kill everyone for being evil, leave" plot structure.
>>728961296>Kung Fu movies follow the same basic plot.From what I remember Wildfire seems to take inspiration from Lisa and Naranja takes inspiration from anime like Baki
>>728961049I was talking about monsters that exist at the time of the Ceroba fight, if we counted things like Zartlet then we would have to count GoHD Asriel
>>728955898Canon's a bitch, but I also like the new monsters UTY introduced. Neutral route's endgame is pure ludokino but doesn't really resolve itself. Pacifist kind of consumes everything in comparison, and as much as I like Yellow Justice Flash, it took itself a little too seriously, I think.
>>728961659I was under the impression that nobody talks about it anymore since it was cancelled, am I wrong?>>728961746>the actual point was more of a "dont act like this isn't what you were looking for acting like this" which is a small but I think important distinctionYeah, but along the way it also keeps telling you "see you're a bad person for wanting this." I think it would be more effective if it just posited the questions without trying to answer them, like UTY does
>>728962632It was never officially cancelled, but the creator said they were taking a break due to university. Last update was almost a year ago.And honestly, I was hoping that it could've come out sooner. It seemed from the screenshots shown that parts were nearly or completely finished.I don't think a demo of the mod would hurt. Flowey and Martlet at the very least were shown to be functionally complete.
>>728958723Will you congratulate Chujin on xer transition?
>>728963149This is pre-op btw
>>728963149I'm fucking her until I can't walk anymore
>>728961998I want to give an example but I'm drawing a blank right now. I may just be mixed up but I'm pretty sure I saw a string of movies back when I actually watched movies more actively that had that kind of "trope". that said, its probably pedantic on my part because ultimately I get what you're talking about.
>>728962384I didn't think that was implicit in how you said that, then yeah she's a bit absurd but I still like the psychosomatic response
>>728962632>"see you're a bad person for wanting this.""it" doesn't do that, the characters within do and thats a huge strength of undertale in how it keeps the judgement in character rather than beyond that
I liked that genocide wasn't him capping literally everybodySure you walk around looking for things that initiate fights, but you literally can't attack NPCs just standing aroundClover wants justice and his mission, not blood
>>728955898For me it's the neutral ending. Flowey really carries that route and tops it off in his final boss fight. I also like it from a narrative point of view how he is the only character that is beyond the concept of justice.
>>728964591>beyond the concept of justice.What do you mean?He faced justice in my game, just like the rest
>>728961296Do you guys think Val and Riley died virgins?
>>728965416val got pounded into dust by that slime girl chako styleriley most certainly shared a few romantic nights with the bunny girl, especially since the lead dev is a coomer that enjoys hmofa
>>728955898Genocide is canon because Clover deserves her happy ending.
>>728965772just because clover lives, doesn't mean he's happy
>>728961084and that's why devs here want to remain anonymous
>>728965416Val refused sex because he knew it was the key unlocking his full potentialRiley got laid and that's why he jobbed
>>728963812UTY's characters do this too, but I never got the impression that its genocide route talks down to you for the choices you've made. I think the main difference is that UTY makes a point about how monsterkind's hands aren't clean either, whereas UT extensively tries to portray the monsters as a completely peaceful people whom you should feel bad for killing, or otherwise hides nuance from you (eg. Undyne, Asgore) until it's too late.For what it's worth, I'd say characters are a part of the story and a vehicle for the themes and messages it wishes to convey, but that's besides the point. I'm curious as to what the difference between the characters talking and the story itself talking means to you
>>728965634>especially since the lead dev is a coomer that enjoys hmofaSource?
>>728965838I mean, she achieved her mission and unleashed judgement upon all who stood in her way. She isn't the happiest person on earth but it's still her best ending.
>>728965838Happier than those dead fuckin monsters, that's for sure
>>728966314one of wildfire's selling points is that you can date the bnuy girl
>>728966572That doesn't prove he's a coomer though.
>>728966618they had a 18+ channel on their discord and the game was almost cancelled because of that
>>728966314They had a +18 discord server for Wildfire, besides there is an extremely high chance the main dev found this place only because he looked at the source of the signirsol kanaclover pics that were uploaded to e621
>>728966310>I'm curious as to what the difference between the characters talking and the story itself talking means to youthe method of delivery is very important to me. by having the characters say this, you are getting a perspective that is not pure objectivity. the game itself is not saying you are bad, the characters are saying you are bad from their point of view. it may seem like semantics but it has to do with theming and authorial intent. in yellow we have people call you bad, but yellow for all of the things it fails to actually make good on plays with the theme of the culpability of people in bad situations, be it their fault (cerobas) or not their fault (monsterkind as a whole being forced underground which is generally, a horrible fate placed on their heads) and lets you call the shots on what that means for your point of view. of course ceroba is going to hate you, and try to kill you when you kill her best friend. the game itself does not say it hates you, or that the theming is that you are evil because its stepping back and letting you make that call. it only tries to call you into question at the end as martlet is dying when she talks about only taking 5. many people take that as her saying something reprehensible but its a fair statement to make, for a people who were forced into a horrible fate out of their control, is there no recourse? maybe the answer is no and you left the game with a genocide ending , or maybe her words made some sense to you and so you reset. this also frames clovers death a little different in pacifist because while its still fucked up and wrong, it at least still plays into justice by trying to view the cycle of wrongdoing. it just has the huge narrative flaw that its only us the player that knows that asgore doesn't want a war. the point being that when the game itself isn't saying something, its the game stepping back and saying
>>728966932"you decide whether this is good or bad, because you get the last say on whether they live or die, no matter how much they love or hate youI rambled past the character limit but Im not gonna bother rewriting it to fit like a sane person
>>728967000>>728966932oh and the way this ties into undertale despite not having the justice theming, is that ultimately you decide their fates so the game "out of character" isn't asking you if its right or wrong, but rather "what do you want" in the whole camp of "pretending the scrimblos are real" vs "killing the video game characters" and when it goes and does the whole chara thing at the end its saying "woah you already told me these are just pixels to be slaughtered, don't act like you didn't want this". the question isn't good vs evil because its asking the question from a perspective thats removed from moral dilemma
>>728955898>Do you believe the theory that all endings happened canonically?The genocide ending can't be "canon", UT pretty clearly seems to imply that the time powers only let you reset as far back as you originally had them, but not before that point, as evidenced by the fact that Flowey couldn't reset to before he became Flowey, or how Frisk can't reset themself back to before they fell into the underground.If Clover committed to a genocide route and got the time powers after killing Zenith Martlet, they'd only ever be able to reset to as soon as they first got the time powers after they killed Zenith Martlet, they wouldn't be able to undo the genocide route.
>>728967506They missed an opportunity to have Clover's earliest reset point be after Zartlet as a parallel to Undertale's Chara scene locking you into genocide.
>>728967506consider this though, yellow also plays with the idea suggested if you do multiple neutral routes that theres an "other" present (aka hinting at (you)) and we dont actually know how the reset takes place
>>728960337What's the point in commenting this? Janny isn't going to do shit.
>>728967646Does it? In-game? I'm genuinely asking, I only played it about 3 times, so it's possible there's something I missed about that, but I was pretty sure UTY stayed away from the whole player/character split thing.
>>728968021it does it very lightly as a "but what if" easter egg but its clear what the easter egg is. flowey talks about how clover navigates the underground like he knows it already despite that being impossible, and then slowy looks at the screen before "whatever anyways one more time with feeling you little shit" uty does a decent job only poking it in a "secret" so to speak
I think the characters in UT respond to your actions pretty well according to their personalities. Papyrus never means you harm, Undyne is rah rah go monsters so she will always skew towards being antagonistic, Flowey is just trying to get under your skin and Sans talks knowing you have time powers, and from his point of view you're always actively choosing who lives or dies with no real harm to you.For how much it's better than most fangames I feel UTY kinda falls into the same pitfall where every monster becomes a wrathful god in Genocide.
>>728968516I remember seeing videos of a fan game with a big stupid guy and little angry guy combo, who just sat at the cliff his big friend got pushed off of during genocide, doing nothing.
>>728968516>I feel UTY kinda falls into the same pitfall where every monster becomes a wrathful god in Genocide.do they really though? starlo gets fucking got, ceroba does become that because super autism fox powers or whatever, axis gets got, and martlet goes super saiyan, and asgore gets absolutely unbelievably blown the fuck out.
>>728968516>Undyne is rah rah go monsters so she will always skew towards being antagonisticI feel UTY playing her up did a disservice to her as the silly fish girl
>>728968937yellow plays up the royal guard in general. that cut ending with martlet being dragged out by the royal guard on one hand would have done much better service to martlets character, but makes the royal guard seem a lot more competent than they are
Wh-What did Martlet do to Ceroba?
>>728968734That was in TS!Underswap
>>728970376you know.
>>728970376The DT serum did more than just give Martlet bigger muscles and breasts
>>728970376use your imagination
>>728970376she gave her to Starlo and Dalv and locked them all up
>>728970376did this
>>728966169if Val is a Baki fan then he must know how busted the sex power up is
>>728970376I know its something deviant, but the location of the black boxes is throwing me off, so I can't tell what deviant act was performed.
I do not like that image, the red panel makes me think her back is getting broken before whatever unclean actions occur.
>>728970893Lewdbox?
>>728971861NO! ANON NO! the actual image is extremely disgusting!
>>728971729well, at least she won't feel it.
>>728972138none of this makes me feel any better
>>728972087NTA, but what's actually happening in the full image?I don't wanna see it, I just wanna know.
>>728972613I warned you, I'll spare the others by spoling the textchild clover having anal sex with pregnant Ceroba while she gives birth to twins
>>728955898reminder that ceroba is fat
>>728961084>chud>>728961553being tired of gays does not a chud make
>>728972710Huh.Didn't think Shadman was making new stuff.
>>728972920being unable to hide your power level while in "enemy territory" on the other hand does
>>728961084i wonder what ever happened to that twitter schizo that was trying to cancel sig over his kanaklover stuff
AU where Ceroba kidnaps Clover into her house and does terrible things with him every day!
>>728973276That pic doesn't look like roba. Who is she?
>>728973131like all of those retards when there's nothing real to actually "campaign" against I imagine the mob slowly loses interest. people get their "oh my god I can't believe this happened" post in, feel that surge of moral rightness, and forget why they were mad in the first place. just like anyone that jumped on master sword on that last doc
>>728955898All of the endings can canonically happen.We know Neutral happened first, and additional dialogue would imply that it happened several times, because Clover always ended with Martlet on rooftop and accepting her offer.Then there's vengeance route, where Clover effective gets the souls and leaves, but because we pacifist will ultimately happen, and that Clover is the one to RESET at the end of that route, that means he willing chose to go back to do pacifist.Then of course the last route to happen is Pacifist which leads to Undertale.
>>728972087>>728972613>>728972710Don't talk about that image. Just pretend it doesn't exist.
Hey, if that one anon who said they'd start watching Freeman's Mind is still here, how's the watch going?
>>728972778this is a much preferable mental image
>>728967506That's not entirely true, considering Flowey usurps the time power from Frisk, and Resets a bunch of times. Then when Frisk regains it again, they Reset right back to the beginning despite the fact they get the power to reset at a different point from when they got it the first time.It doesn't matter when you get it, you can still Reset to point before you got it, as long as you have enough determination.Remember Flowey destroyed Frisk's save file, so it shouldn't have been possible for them to reset back to the beginning, and yet they still did, meaning Clover can do the same.
>>728974136I'm on episode 17, it has its moments. there's been a few times its genuinely made me laugh, and other times where its being a bit too "silly" for its own good. I can definitely see what you're talking about with his mindset though, and the scenarios I was suggesting without knowledge of the show are silly in retrospect. reposting that art anon made since its relevant
Drawanon if you're out there, please grace us with more of your awesome arts like the ones below.They're all well drawn, and admittedly interesting to see and talk about.OG Martlet:https://files.catbox.moe/7aisdo.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/sp6nr9.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/2x21kk.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/l7v5j9.gifZenith Martlet:https://files.catbox.moe/xe05o5.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/bx03yi.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/vye6hq.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/jirp38.pngDeltarune Yellow:https://files.catbox.moe/qnn0yj.pngMartlet/Zartlet SFW:https://files.catbox.moe/le8ckp.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/dlyvn5.png
>>728965634>Val got to tap thisLucky bastard
>>728970856She’s going to watch them have sex then? Awesome
>>728974704Wait all of these were done by one guy?Damn I was wondering where the whole Clover becomes a bird monster, with Martlet as his mother talk came from.
>>728974540>considering Flowey usurps the time power from Frisk, and Resets a bunch of times. He takes the power from Frisk, sure, but he also had the power of six human souls, so that's not necessarily the same thing as just having more power than Frisk, it was orders of magnitude more. Plus, we see that the timeline goes back to where it left off as soon as Flowey loses the power from the souls, so we don't really see him get a proper reset in. >Then when Frisk regains it again, they Reset right back to the beginning despite the fact they get the power to reset at a different point from when they got it the first time.Yeah, but Frisk already had a previous point in time where they initially gained the power, so it's possible that having Flowey lose the power and having the timeline resume caused them to be able to go back again.>Remember Flowey destroyed Frisk's save file, so it shouldn't have been possible for them to reset back to the beginning, and yet they still didWe also see Frisk have their MERCY button destroyed, and they were still able to restore and use it after Asgore's fight. The red soul has the ability to resist these sorts of things, as additionally demonstrated in Asriel's fight when you obtain the SAVE button, as well as when it refuses death. All these things line up with the established behavior of the red soul, whereas Clover doesn't have that excuse.In Clover's case, they simply took the power from Flowey, but they didn't have the same kind of power that Flowey had with the six human souls, so they'd only be able to reset as far back as when they initially got it, which is after the genocide route was basically finished.
>>728967259I like this reading of UTY but I'm not convinced it works for UT as well. Throughout the entire game, through characters like Sans and Undyne you're being told "if you go back in time and change things, you'll be better off", and that rings especially true with the illusion of choice that Chara presents you. Your specific interpretation is effective, but some players might have different reasons for wanting to be the villain, and the conclusion being an abrupt apocalypse feels like a rug pull when divorced from the context of viewing the world as pixels to be slaughtered. To me, UT feels like you have less of a say in which you read the situation, and you're encouraged to look at things under a specific light.
>>728974578Alright, good. I think the series definitely gets better as it goes on, as Ross's improv improves, but what you said is fair. Keep us posted.
>>728967259>>728975150I think I'm more or less going in circles at this point, though. I do appreciate how you've taken the time to lay out how you interpret the story
>>728975150>but some players might have different reasons for wanting to be the villain,If im being honest with you, this was in my mind as a major issue with my viewpoint, but it wasn't enough for me to discard my way of thinking entirely so I still presented the stream of consciousness as is. I think i'm influenced by the fact that toby was inspired by the concept of player agency in games as far back as brandish, so I think thats what was being gone for, but yeah that argument can fall flat if you're looking at it from that angle
>>728975224its enjoyable getting to discuss things like this sincerely . I at least get where you're coming from in all of this.
>>728975158will do, I know you mentioned last week, assuming it was you, that I could have had it all done before the next thread, but i've got other things I've been getting into so I'm taking it a handful of episodes at a time.
>>728974283indeed it is
>>728974804Aren't seabunnies venomous to the touch?
>>728976557she's a monster so she can only poison you if she wills it
>>728974578Anon who drew that, I'd also recommend his other HL series, Civil Protection. Its more a normal skit based machinima series like you'd see back in the 2000s, kinda like a more grounded Red vs Blue, rather than the serialized stream of consciousness you see in Freeman's Mind.
>>728974804I'd imagine sucking on her breasts must be like sucking on one of those applesauce pouches
>>728975047It didn't come from there, but that did definitely make it a lot bigger than it was before. The bird Clover idea has been around for a long time.
>>728976704I'll check that out as well when I get done with freemans mind. it may take some time as I'm only watching 3-5 at a time though.
>>728972613Momroba preggohttps://files.catbox.moe/n0efj5.png
>>728975150What other reason would you play genocide than just to see all the content? The game goes out of its way to make sure that none of what you're doing in that route feels good if you're trying to roleplay. So the only players that finish it would be the ones meta gaming to get all the endings or to fight the strong bosses.
>>728976557This is how Val really died
>>728975067It kind of is the same thing. Frisk usurped it from Flowey because he had more determination, then Flowey usurped it from Frisk upon gaining the souls which allowed him to have more determination, and destroyed his save file. No matter how you look at it, as long as you have the most determination, you can pretty much do whatever the heck you want when it comes to reset, saving, and whatever time shenanigans.>Yeah, but Frisk already had a previous point in time where they initially gained the power, so it's possible that having Flowey lose the power and having the timeline resume caused them to be able to go back again.Again Flowey completely destroyed their save file. There's no point to go back to. It's gone. That's what a save is. There's no origin point anymore. Therefore there should be no way for Frisk to reset to that point in time. However they can still reset to the beginning, even without it. When you have the most determination there's no restrictions.>We also see Frisk have their MERCY button destroyed, and they were still able to restore and use it after Asgore's fight. The red soul has the ability to resist these sorts of things, as additionally demonstrated in Asriel's fight when you obtain the SAVE button, as well as when it refuses death. All these things line up with the established behavior of the red soul, whereas Clover doesn't have that excuse.Except Clover does. Zenith Martlet interface screws and outright prevents Clover from using the fight button, and yet Clover can still fight. Both Clover and Frisk have displayed the ability to bypass restrictions forced upon them by others. It's not exclusive to Frisk. When you have high determination you're capable of doing stuff like this. Clover took the power from Flowey just like Frisk did. Flowey could save, load, reset without the souls, Frisk could do the same when he had the most determination. Clover's no different. He had the most, so he was the one in control.
>>728976592Fire works like that, but would poison too? Fire can vary in heat, but poison is either poison or it isn't.
>>728976709Wouldn't it be apple juice though?
>>728977079So why couldn't Flowey reset back to when he was Asriel?
>>728977154I'm saying that her breastmilk has the same consistency as applesauce, kind of like slime
>>728976773I knew bird Clover was a thing, but not to where Martlet transforms him to where Clover biologically becomes her child in this manner.When I saw bird Clover nowadays there was always some discussion that Martlet or Zenith did something to Clover, and he ended up as her actual child.I also remember there was talks of a fic, where Martlet did something like that, and the discussions they mentioned the inspiration came from a set of images, with Clover's soul within an egg within Martlet.And I always wondered how this specific concept became so popular, only to find out a drawanon was responsible.
>>728977431Slime and applesauce are not the same at al. Applesauce is a gritty pulp, if her milk were slime milk (slilk if you like) it would have the consistency of the goo in pie fillings or more likely, since milk is thinner than most of the body, it would be a thinner liquid, like maple syrup.also applesauce is gross
>>728977464>I also remember there was talks of a fic, where Martlet did something like that, and the discussions they mentioned the inspiration came from a set of images, with Clover's soul within an egg within MartletI remember there being a fic where "bird clover" was actually just Clover in a magic costume, who hit his head and got amnesia, causing him to genuinely believe he was Martlet's son.
>>728977285Probably because he didn't have a human soul. He had enough determination to do all the timey bullshit that he did, but it's clear it was nothing compared to a human soul with determination, considering Frisk literally took the power from him without even having to do anything.A level 1 Frisk could cheat death itself, and refuse to die against a God of Hyperdeath Asriel.Speaking of Hyperdeath Asriel, his dialogue implies he was going to that, and create an endless loop so he could essentially play with Frisk, who he mistook for Chara for eternity.
>>728977668Her milk probably has the consistency of something like honey but only a bit thinner, the question now is, what would slik taste like?
>>728977959I'm going to assume forgot to type an "L" and not a "C", anyways, it'd be spicy because she's venomous.
>>728977748I knew about that fic. But this was a fic that came after that, and it detailed Zenith Martlet beating Clover, and turning him into a monster to stop his violence, and essentially tempering him after that.I remember there was a very popular pic, which inspired that fic showing Zenith doing that. Then all of a sudden similar images started popping, all of them also being popular, and with more talks and discussions about this concept.So I was essentially wondering, whoa okay this suddenly became very popular, who kickstarted it. I what do you know, it originated here of all places.
>>728977668The pouch analogy works better if you imagine the pouch itself is like her breast. Her milk doesn't literally feel and taste like applesauce, but if I had to guess, it'd probably be like green liquid jello, maybe warm.Anyways, the primary focus is on the pouch, with the "milk" inside being secondary, and you can imagine whatever slime feels/tastes like for yourself. I'm not dictating the exact texture of slime, but I'm comparing it to something between a liquid and a solid.
>>728978240This is showing up on other sites?
>>728978386apple juice comes in pouches too, you know.
>>728978180>it'd be spicy because she's venomous.That won't stop me from giving it a taste
>>728978478apple juice is a straight up liquid, while applesauce is closer to slime, between solid and liquid.so I assume that a slime's breastmilk would feel like slime as well.
>>728978386If she is a slime her breasts should feel softer/squishier than a plastic pouch
>>728979445would her tits feel like fake tits? Implants are just sacks full of silicone gel.
>>728979731Her whole body would feel that way actually, I guess it depends, if she is half sea slug and half slime then she shuld be more solid than pure slime
>does slimegirl milk have the consistency of applesauce? discusshigh level scholarly pursuits. this kind of inquisitive nature is what brought mankind out of the caves I imagine.
>slime tiddy physics discussion???
>>728980096the important questions
>>728978412There's a pick on e6 that has Zenith Martlet turning Clover into a monster, which is very popular it seems, and there was a lot of talk about it.That pic seemed to have spawned a fic, and then the later images appeared to have made concept a more popular, and resulted in it being talked about more.
>>728980056>>728980096Hey, the previous thread was full of half life discussions, this is an interesting change of peaceWe can talk about your prefered monster tities instead, if you want
Enough about slime girls, how would fire girls feel?
>>728980096Wouldn't you like to squeeze a slime's tiddies and have the milk come out like a ketchup dispenser?
>>728980990The aperture would probably be smaller than that. You have to remember the primary purpose of titties, infants don't drink that much. The flow would be much smaller and have more resistance.
>>728980990wildly unpleasant mental image
>>728980915my post wasn't complaining. its just funny to me the intensity its being discussed with. I think that my preferred monster would be soft.
>>728980957For some reason I always thought that touching a fire elemental would feel like touching glass or porcelain
>>728981141Why? Porcelain and glass are really dense. Meanwhile fire isn't. It's basically just really hot air. If anything, solid fire would feel like really foam or some kind of spongy aerogel.
>>728981102What are you gay or something?
>>728981393honestly anon, I went back and read that post and I have to agree. the words "ketchup dispenser" really fucks with me on this. I can even hear it and I dont like the sound
>>728981345>Why? I have no idea where this mental image came from, I guess my brain interprets the fire elemental body as a container for flames rather than them being literally made of fire since fire isn't solid
>>728981393come on now that's not unreasonable to find strange
>>728980957Do fire elementals produce breast milk?
>>728977079>as long as you have the most determination, you can pretty much do whatever the heck you want when it comes to reset, saving, and whatever time shenanigans.Except you can't, and we know that for a fact.How? Because Flowey has access to multiple save slots during his fight, when he saves and loads mid-battle to throw you off. Frisk doesn't have that power, even when they have sole control over the timeline.Having the most determination in general gives you control of the timeline, but there are clearly levels past that that give you additional powers beyond just being able to save and load, such as having multiple save slots.>Zenith Martlet interface screws and outright prevents Clover from using the fight buttonShe locks the fight button, she doesn't destroy it, that's completely irrelevant.
>>728981529>In bed with your sea bunny gf>Things are getting hot and steamy>You start with groping, progress to kissing, about to start fucking like (aquatic) rabbits>In the throws of passion you start talking dirty>"I'm gonna do things to you">"What are you gonna do?" She asks seductively>"I'm gonna milk you dry">"Oh really?" She asks coyly, egging you on>"Yeah, I'm gonna pump your breasts like ketchup dispensers till we're both covered in extra spicy slilk.">Her face sours>Ambient smooth jazz comes to an abrupt stop>"Anon, what the fuck?"
>>728981641Milk is a nutrient rich and easy to digest food for infants. The last thing a young ember would need is water based milk. Fire elementals lactate lighter fluid.
>>728982178I'm fucking dying here holy shit anon
>>728982436In addition to writing that green, I also made the reaction image you just posted.
>>728981814To be fair the games have shown us when Frisk is incredibly determined they can't even be killed by a Hyberdeath Asriel, so what the anon is saying isn't incorrect. The more determined you are to do something, eventually you'll be able to do it.As for the second point, locking away the fight button still falls under the same category as Asgore removing the mercy button. Zenith and Asgore both did something that removed an option, and both Clover and Frisk found ways around that. It's not really irrelevant at all.
>>728982178>>Her face soursI think any of the expressions from the second row would fit that description
>>728982664you're too powerful. you must be stopped
>>728982823>It's not really irrelevant at all.It's irrelevant because we're specifically talking about the concept of an option being destroyed, not just locked off. For reference, Frisk also used the yellow soul mode on Mettaton when their FIGHT option had been rendered unusable (in this case, by Mettaton being impervious to physical damage in his base form), so Clover using their yellow soul mode to defeat Zenith Martlet isn't all that special, since it doesn't even require interacting with the FIGHT button to begin with.
>>728982317>Fire elementals lactate lighter fluid.Well, that would taste like crap, on the other hand her wisp milk (or wislk) could have many other uses
>>728977079>Again Flowey completely destroyed their save file. There's no point to go back to. It's gone. That's what a save is. There's no origin point anymore. Therefore there should be no way for Frisk to reset to that point in time. However they can still reset to the beginning, even without it.Again, Asgore destroyed their MERCY button. Shattered it to pieces, just like Flowey does with the save file box, but that doesn't stop Frisk from putting it back together and using it anyway.That's my point.Frisk being able to reset even after temporarily losing control of the timeline to Flowey isn't just because they "have no restrictions" (ignoring the fact that they absolutely do in a lot of other cases, but that's another argument for another day), it's because they were able to salvage their save file the same way they salvaged their MERCY button. There's a precedent.Clover wouldn't be able to reset from before they first gained the ability because they don't *have* a save file from before they got the ability, there's nothing for them to reset from other than the moment after they killed Zenith Martlet.
>>728981814>Except you can't, and we know that for a fact.Except it's already been proven this is 100% the case, since Frisk could reset to a specific point where a save file no longer exists. They couldn't be killed by someone infinitely stronger than them, because they were that determined, said guy had complete control of over the timeline.What do you mean Frisk doesn't have that power, you are literally using it throughout the game. Frisk is saving and loading throughout their entire journey in the underground. What Flowey is doing no different, it's literally the same exact power.>She locks the fight button, she doesn't destroy it, that's completely irrelevant.No it's not irrelevant. Zenith and Asgore are both doing something where they attempt to remove an option from Frisk and Clover respectively through interface screw, to try and force a specific outcome, and both humans are able to overrule it.Asgore tries to force Frisk into killing him, and Frisk is still able to show mercy in the end, whereas Zenith Martlet attempted to force Clover into a battle where he couldn't fight, but Clover was still able to fight her regardless. It's the same principal.
>>728983062It could also be 98 proof liquor. All that matters is that its extra flammable.
>>728982436Clover's reaction after coming out of an egg Zenith Martlet laid.
>>728983594>Except it's already been proven this is 100% the case, since Frisk could reset to a specific point where a save file no longer exists. Except the save does exist, they salvaged it the same way they salvaged their MERCY button that was also shattered.>What Flowey is doing no different, it's literally the same exact power.Did you play the game? I said Flowey has *multiple* save files during his fight, you can see them when he saves and loads mid-battle, the text in the corner explicitly mentions multiple, numbered save slots, whereas Frisk only has the one save file throughout their journey. Actually understand what I'm telling you before arguing next time.>It's the same principal.Except it's not, because the literal nature of what's happening in each scenario is completely different. In UT, the only way to show mercy is through the MERCY button, either by sparing an enemy or by running away. Asgore taking the MERCY button away completely removed the option for mercy throughout the fight, only being restored after Asgore was defeated. In UT and UTY, the yellow soul ability is completely unrelated to the FIGHT button, so Zenith Martlet locking it off (and again, not even actually destroying it) isn't nearly as much of a limiting factor as destroying the MERCY button was for Frisk. Locking off the FIGHT button is completely irrelevant to this discussion, it's not the same thing at all.Not to mention the fact that the button doesn't even stay locked off for the entire fight anyway.
>>728980957I was actually going to ask about that, really curious how you can make love to living fire
>>728984191very carefully
>>728961084His art beats that of all the faggots. Hope he's doing well now.>>728966310>I think the main difference is that UTY makes a point about how monsterkind's hands aren't clean either, whereas UT extensively tries to portray the monsters as a completely peaceful people whom you should feel bad for killing, or otherwise hides nuance from you (eg. Undyne, Asgore) until it's too late.UT assumes you go into the game with a stereotypical RPG view of monsters as things you're supposed to kill to progress. Only after you become dispossessed of that notion does it switch to darker lore. UTY assumes you have already played the original game which is also why the intro cutscene contains major spoilers for Undertale itself.>>728968250I'm disappointed that there are no multiple neutral endings since that's the main draw for replaying Undertale's neutral. It feeds into that completionist impulse (which is commented upon in Undertale) that a handful of different dialogue boxes don't. Yes Clover is dead and stuck but you could handwave it away by saying his battle within Flowey doesn't match normal time. Flowey then goes and tells you "Oh yeah here's what happened since you 'disappeared without a trace.'" His description could be flavorful just like Sans's was for the various neutral routes. Big missed opportunity and as a result the "easter egg" text is not worth looking for.>>728973276That's just Komen Fuufu but Undertale.
>>728984191She can make her fire pleasantly warm to the touch if she tries, but with magic being heavily tied to emotions, I imagine she'd get hotter the more excited she gets. so she'd get really hot when she climaxes
>>728984365>That's just Komen Fuufu but Undertale.Rokosuke is an adult, consensually married Kohaku, and is treated very well by her.
>>728973276Already happened
>>728980957>>728984191>finally get in bed with your fire elemental GF>took the care to get fireproof crap, but its also breathable so that it doesnt suffocate her>about to do the deed>she just lights your fucking dick on fire>PAIN holyfuckingshit>wrap the blanket around it>its breathable so it wont extinguish the fire>just clasp your hands around your thing>ask her why she did that while still writing in pain>"... that is how fire elementals reproduce.">what the fuck>"usually it is done with a mate, lighting something on fire gives it the properties of those that lit it on fire and the object in question">???? she wanted her child to be a flaming dick????>"since you are alive it would've just taken the properties from you"you ask if she could've just lit something from your on fire>"yes">mention that you could've just came and she could light that on fire>she's now visibly embarrassed but what the hell man she should've led with what she wanted to do
>>728984424ok so the whole idea of a girl with claws scratching you during sex and feeling bad afterwards is extremely cute, and I think this is pressing the same buttons for me even if getting burned is horrible.
>>728984662>not packing enough healing items to power through the damage and impregnate her properly.you don't deserve a monster wife nor half monster children
>>728984734Keep in mind that monsters are still pathetically weak, so you could probably tank it if you wanted it bad enough. Plus medical care is as simple as eating a hamburger to heal all injuries.
>>728984662shoulda called the flame atronach guy
>>728984992yes but the important aspect is that afterwards she's embarrassed and patching you up. its cute. yes I think I want this
>>728985019who?
>>728985086healing magic is also a thing, so you can have her heal it after she burns it. Hell, since monsters are made of magic, maybe you can her give you a heal job
>>728985161anon I dont think you understand, the expression on her face while she heals me is of the utmost importance. its unreasonably important. having a lovey dovey moment hugging her showing you're not afraid of her fire even if you got burned earlier is life threateningly important. I don't have an image that conveys how important this is!
>>728985295hugs can also heal when you get them from a monster
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>>728985479quit posting pictures from my personal account
>>728955898WHOMST is redhead fox? I don't play these games.
>>728985414that will be where this leads sure, but its the journey, the journey to this moment.
>>728985557Ceroba, an intensely dumb monster with a lot of love to give. also a dangerously one track mind.
>>728985557ceroba
>>728985479We need a version of this with the UTN Fire girl (did he ever tell us her name?) and an anon.
>>728985557Sans
>>728955898I prefer the Flowey ending. It’s definitely not the most canonical, but I just really like Flowey as a character.
>>728985623>>728985629I appreciate your patronage. E621, here I come.
>>728985695>did he ever tell us her name?I think its luzma or something
does flowey make UTY canon-noncompliant because he showed up only after six of the souls were gathered or something? I haven't read into it
>>728986038pretty much. any soul prequel fangame adding flowey is a red flagalso I don't know what the fuck this 67 meme is
>>728986038Is pic a reference to goobsmooch?
>>728986038>does flowey make UTY canon-noncompliant because he showed up only after six of the souls were gathered or something? I haven't read into itNo, not necessarily.Some people interpret Flowey's lore in the original UT as though he was only created after every human before Frisk fell, but there's nothing in-game explicitly stating that's actually the case.Other than that, some people argue that Flowey can't have existed for too long before the events of UT because if he did he would've somehow gotten all the human souls well before Frisk ever fell, despite the fact that UT shows that pretty much all of Flowey's plans blow up in his face and he sucks at direct confrontation, which is why he only ever uses ambush tactics or schemes to try and get his way rather than actually fighting anyone on even footing.
>>728986075No knows what it is, that's the joke
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>>728986310Not the text, I mean the artstyle. It looks exactly like something he would draw.
>>728985623she deserves a good ending
>>728986390thats what IMAGINING is for. and also someone to stop her from making really fucking stupid choices
>>728986193I wish we had more knowledge on base flowey's power, he's a little sneaky little stinker who can do some serious damage with the whole system of vines he runs on but seemingly can't take on someone like asgore even though that should be easy for him due to the intent rule >>728986347I used the video as a reference image
>>728986432a nondescript human male sounds like what she needs
>>728986469I really wish I had saved that green "in a rare moment of descript"
>>728986517I like the detail of the wedding ring
>>728986468Well you can do a really good imitation of goobsmooch's style. You should try redrawing one of his comics with UTY characters.
>>728986517behold>Be me, nondescript but happy human male.>staying over at my apartment (Ceroba is weirdly against going to her house but I'm chill with it.)>Fox girlfriend and I watching TV. Mettaton (monster David bowie) is doing a talk show about some lame shit.>we spend the afternoon shit talking the TV, together.>She gets tired of sitting up straight and asks if she can lean on me.>one thing leads to another, now she's resting the head on my shoulder like a pillow.>I, in a rare moment of descript, take initiative.>yawn, stretch, softly lower my hand and hug her from our position.>she realizes what I just did and bursts out laughing, covering her snout with her hand.>"No, no I'm not laughing at you! I kinda am, but I'm not *making fun* of you.">"It's just that you pulled out the oldest trick in the book. What are we, teenagers?">she finishes laughing, then looks at me. I must be looking doe-eyed because she decides to mess with me.>"So, you want to hug then?" She approaches with malicious intent, before tackle-hugging me and getting on top of me.>bodies pressed on each other.>she grabs my arms and puts them around her, touching her back. She rests her head on my shoulder to look at the TV.>freeze mentally due to female affection.>She nuzzles against my chest once she notices I'm frozen, hums in the satisfaction of getting to me.>"that's the thing about foxes, we're a tricky kind~">cuddle for the rest of the evening, fall asleep on the couch.>I love this woman.
>>728986740thank you for your service anon. I am reminded that in the same thread that was posted, the anon did one with anon and ceroba going fishing. by any chance do you have that one as well?
>>728986740Oh hey, I think I was the guy who requested that one.Pretty good green.
>>728986840behold 1/2>Be me, nondescript human male.>pretty fox woman is for some reason into my life threateningly average physique>I took her fishing because ass-burgers and couldn't figure anything better.>boat, lakeside, nondescript village.>we sit facing each other, she's wearing a red sundress she got for this date.>"I've never fished before, Anon. Surprisingly hard to find a nice spot in the dunes.">I ask her why.>"I just didn't feel like looking. With it being a desert and all, too hot to search around.">By the time I process the joke she's managed to hook a worm by herself.>offer to show her how to cast.>She changes to face the water, I sit behind her and take notice that she's not holding the rod right.>I wait for her to give me a nod of permission, and gently help her put her fingers on the handle.>she rests her back against my front, my arms wrapped around her front wards.>Don't notice she's being flirty due to the burgers up my ass and tell her to try casting.>She does, and now we wait. My hands on top of hers, her body leaning on mine.>"Question, have you thought about what we're doing with the fish we catch?">uhhhh, eat it?>"My my, I didn't know you could dress a fish.">I stay quiet for a second, not because I can't because I definitely can, but because it just weights on me that her ass (with our clothes in between) is making contact with me.>flustered>"So catch and release it is then." She smirks teasingly.
>>728986965behold 2/2>The clouds give us a nice shade. The air carries a few sprinkles and is refreshing. No matter how long we wait, we don't get tired of each other's presence.>Suddenly, the line begins to pull.>I panic, but she stays steady and I explain how to reel it in.>she splashes herself by accident but she pulls the fish successfully.>it's a medium sized trout.>she holds it with the 'I just caught a fish for the first time and don't know how to hold it' smile on her face.>we send it back, hook properly out of it's mouth, and get back into position.>we have a nice day.
>>728986965>life threateningly average physique still gets me, thank you anon
behold, the last one>Be me, nondescript human male.>tired after doing a forty-eight hour shift at the mines today.>Get home, fox wife is on the couch watching TV.>"Hey Anon. I made dinner, put it in the microwave for you">thank her as I let myself fall into the couch, looking like a dehydrated sardine.>Fox wife looks at me, tells immediately something is wrong.>goes and gets us two beers, one for her and one for me.>"long day huh?">she sits my by side, takes a swing and puts the bottle on the floor before grabbing me by the nondescript head and pushing it to her chest.>"There, there, you big baby. Just lean on me for a second." Headpats from fox wife.>eventually lay my head on her thighs (the comfiest headrest).>fall asleep listening to her watch TV and drink beer, rest easy.>I love this woman.
>>728987132I knew I should have saved them before. I think they were posted in the /vrpg/ so I just put it off since those are around for ages
ran out of foxgirl designs for bg npcs so i drew a legally distinct roba>>728955898neutral ending had the best final boss though it just kinda curves back into doing the other endings so it's hard to call it an ending
>>728987275>ran out of foxgirl designs for bg npcs so i drew a legally distinct robaWhat's this?
>>728987275Interesting. What kind of game is it? And who's that kobold?
>>728987275oh the game has fox girls now? haven't played it since the first demo a long time ago>>728987402>>728987342melody of scales, sometimes anon posts it in the dev threads, it has a demo on itch
>>728987275If you need to shamelessly steal more foxes from Undertale fangames, you could always rob Oldentale.
>>728987275Love it, make legally distinct kanako too
>>728987275 Is this a furry porn game?
>>728987275>>728987897seconding this question
>>728987940it isn't it's a 2D sidescroller/beat em up or somethingjust look for it on itch >>728987671
>>728987967I checked the itch page, that doesn't really clear things up at all.
https://files.catbox.moe/m3wsp6.pnghave a zartevery single time i draw lingerie i think never ever again, only to forget and repeat the process all over again
>>728987967Hm.I think this one might just be a collective "neat but we don't care" honestly.
>>728988185Damn, nice stuff as always sig.
>>728988185thank you based sig
>>728987671>>728987967Neat and I do care. Will recommend to my friends.
>>728988185was scared of clicking it since last time someone posted a catbox link with that post pic it was nasty, but good job as usual sig
I'm still in awe at the amount of actually good tracks in the game
>almost no new kanaclover content in a whileit's fucking (cl)over
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>>728990870Make some then. It can be shitty greens or ms paint scribbles, but it would be something.
I really hope I can get that Wiki request done before the end of the year, but I'm too busy working on a robot master right now.Such is life.
>>728991698can't wait to see those fluffy goat thighs
>>728992247Well you're gonna have to, Dr.Wily needs me.
>>728992303can't wait to see the next machine in the Doctor Wily Numbers
>>728992608Yeah, a lot of the submissions so far seem pretty cool, lots of really different ideas for being based on the same base design.
>>728992764And this is how I learn there's a Mega Man 12
>>728993251It's actually called Mega Man Dual Override, but yeah, basically. I forget the source, but apparently it was actually going to be called Mega Man 12 at one point, but they changed it for some reason.
>>728988185three hours late but not a 0% chance of a replyYou do comms?
dont let the thread die fagets
>>728980957>>728984662She has no legs, where would her pussy be?
>>728988185Nice to see that you are still making Zartlet stuff Sig
Dr.Wily holds Kanako hostage in order to get Chujin to make robots to defeat Mega Man like he did with Dr.Cossack, but all of Chujin's robots just explode immediately so Mega Man wins anyway.
>>728998586Kek, I've just imagined this redrawn with Clover and Flowey. Or Ceroba @ flawed pacifist.
Come on, just keep it going a little longer...
https://pastebin.com/NDctwR1dGot a draft here for the last chapter of Light in the Murk. It's been a long time, but as a refresher, it's basically the story where Ceroba and Undyne have a little bit of a custody clash over Clover (or his soul specifically, in Undyne's case) and beat the absolute dogshit out of each other over it.In this chapter, Undyne comes back as she promised, and the group try to argue with her using their words this time.Prior chapters can be found here. Mind the () in the link, since 4chan still thinks the fucking site is spam for some reason.https://archiveofourown()org/works/54457768Hope you guys like it, and I do apologize for the delay. It's a tired old excuse, but the only one I've got is that I had a bunch of other things I was giving priority, both irl and not. Got back round to it eventually at least though.Any feedback would be appreciated.
Oh cool, a thing.And here I was, about to post that one gif of Will Smith standing around by himself.
>>728990870I'm still waiting on a commission to finish
Hey, remember the time the art illuminati decided to post a shit ton of Ceroba lewds all on the same day at the exact same time?That was weird.
>>729003862Post them coward
God, I love retarded furry women so much.
>>729004080This is a blue board idiot, go look them up on esix if you're so curious.
>>729004187She's not retarded, she's just fucking stupid
>>729004507How will I know which ones they were then THOUGH?
So what was the deal with the dude again? He wrote Ceroba rape fanfics? Cerapea
>>729004631Check the time and day they were posted on twitter. They were all posted on October 1st, around noon.
>>729004631Also, why the hell did you capitalize "though"?That's not the part of the sentence you should be emphasizing there.
>>729004945>Around Noon>High Noon>Cowboy memeGod damn it, Starlo. Why are you uploading Ceroba lewds on e six dot com.
>>729004723He wrote Ceroba a little psychotic as backstory to fuck his pokesona and that made his twitter followers triggered because it's disrespectful to traumatized people or something. So a nothingburger really
>>729005130Twitter, I said.A bunch of artists all logged on and posted Ceroba lewds at noon all on the same day, with no warning or fanfare or anything. It just happened.
>>728988185Amazing Zenith Martlet art Sig.You always draw her amazing, and it's a pleasure to see more of her.
You know what, real talk, if Chujin had to build a robot master for whatever reason, what would it be?Like, what's the theme he'd go for?
>>728988185Sig back at it again making peak Zartlet art. Martlet looks good in those.
>>728988185The guy is either very lucky that Zenith Martlet broke the door, or very unlucky that she wants to make it up to him.He's going to die, but hey death by snu snu isn't a bad way to go out lol.
>>729007971>The guy is either very lucky that Zenith Martlet broke the door, or very unlucky that she wants to make it up to him.Wait, how is the door being broken lucky?
>>729002210last chapter? so the story is over?I will give it a read soon, it has been so long that I forgot what happened actually, but good to see the story is finally ending
>>729008289Martlet's want to make up to the guy for breaking his door. So because she broke the door on accident, he gets to have fun times with her. So lucky him.The unlucky part is he's definitely going to die, because he's about to have fun times with Zenith Martlet. Or as someone would it a happy accident.
>>729009189Okay, but that's not an either/or situation like you said, it's just good news and bad news.
I wish that it made any sort of sense for Martlet to be able to shift between regular and Zenith forms because they're both cute
>>728984641more??
>>729011218no anon, it's a cringe fic from reddit, you don't want to see more
>>728995980She may have no legs, but the usual place is still right there.
>>729010885she looks like she dates human men
>>728995980ever seen those froslass pics?the question is just how she would feel to hold, maybe sponge-like like >>728981345 said
>>729011623>>729012231So you are saying that Luzma has her fireussy exposed all the time?
>>729012576it only materializes if she wills it
>>729012951Its funny because thats probably how it works, you can see in her portraits that she sometimes has a mouth and other times doesn't>>728984191
>>728958994It helps that even random shopkeepers are hyped for the possibility of committing genocide. Most monsters are genocidal retards.
The biggest missed opportunity is Starlo.HE SHOULD BE TRYING TO BRING YOU TO JUSTICE IF YOURE KILLING EVERYONE. WHYD THEY SKIP THAT FOR MORE CEROBAFrankly it's a bit of a stretch for him to be fighting you on normal routes. I'd say his neutral/pacifist fight should've been replaced with extending the fesity four fight
>>729013707>WHYD THEY SKIP THAT FOR MORE CEROBAroba is mastersword's waifu and he really, really, really wanted her to hog the spotlight
>>728991698>>728992303Its funny you should say that, because I'm currently working on a Dr Wily type character for Oldentale.
>>729013707The fangame with an actual fight for Starlo on the justice route isn't very well-written, but its gameplay does scratch the itch for a harder Starlo fight.
>>728958994Me personally I think the pacifist Asgore fight works out because it's canon that he murdered the fuck out of the first six kids and finally broke when Frisk came by.
>>729012576Its pretty normal behavior for monsters.
>>729006667He's seem really fond of the oldschool Robby the robot type robots, so probably something like a ray gun robot or a steam robot. If Wily told him he had to pick something more distinct, it'd probably be samurai themed since that's the only other theme he seems to like.
>>729009189If he has a zartlet gf then I'm certain he has enough determination to power through the pain. He wouldn't have gotten this far otherwise.
Which UTY character would be most receptive towards Red Soul's Epic LV Gains Special? With everything that it entails.
>>728988185SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEXholy shit these just get better and better
>>728983623Damm, imagine getting drunk from drinking your fire elemental gf's milk
>>729014564Only one of them is the player character
>>728970376watermelon_between_thighs.jpg
>>729014618haha
>>729014451>it'd probably be samurai themed since that's the only other theme he seems to like.Actually now that I think about it, what would happen if Chujin worked for Aku?
>>728970893>AnonymousWhere this image cane from??, ~~i wanna see~~
>>728988185I she talking with clover???
Mart pussy https://files.catbox.moe/p9w7ob.png
>>729015851It came from herehttps://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/121183534
>>729013707>Starlo's such a heckin wholesome good guy chungus that he couldn't bring himself to even kill a murderer gunning down his people>But if he thinks it's your fault his friends are annoyed with him catch a bullet in between your eyes dummy
>>729014539He was lucky. Just very lucky to have Zenith Martlet as his room mate.And his luck's about to run out it seems. Rip to his pelvis, and other bones.
>>729016218she's pouring snow into her groin?
>>729015848Unlike with Dr Wily, his robots would fit right in with Aku's. Exploding seems to be a standard feature of Aku's robots. He wouldn't even have to change his current designs much, apart from making them more intentionally murderous.I could totally see Chujin working for Aku too, provided the monsters exist in the Samurai Jack world. Aku had to fight a war against humanity to conquer the entire world, and his whole army is composed of all manner of inhuman creatures, so of course he would seek help from a bunch of desperate literal monsters who have a grudge against humanity. And Aku is a great manipulator, so of course he'd sell them a bill of goods about freeing them from their prison if they can help him kill Samurai Jack. Undertale takes place in the far future, just like Samurai Jack, so even the chronology lines up.It'd make for a good episode too.
>>729016793listen man, he was off his meds that day
>>729018194as off the rails as chujin goes in yellow, I think that the episode would end in some way with chujin seeing jacks actions and realizing that he's working for the greater evil. that fits the flow of a lot of samurai jack episodes.
>>728974704So a drawanon was responsible for drawing all of these and making the whole Martlet turning into Clover into monster concept really popular.All that said, if your there drawanon great stuff!
>>729013707desu Starlo is a joke character it makes sense that his delusions get him killed
I gonna be honest I think "momlet" is bad and forced, martlet is too young, martlet write in her diary that she can't take care of herself and martlet always talks and interact with clover like bff
>>729019513martlet has a hard time giving thing her all due to her self confidence issues but is also shown that she has the capacity to excel when she does finally put her all into things. The martlet also symbolizes continuous effort, which I think is really well realized in some dry takes with how hard she works to provide for clover. basically if she allows herself to commit to something fully she reaches her potential as a person. I like to imagine a scenario where she had time to really realize what she allowed to happen in the pacifist ending, and if clover came back somehow, she would have the chance to have a personal reckoning with her inner weakness. also, she got robbed of some character development because it would "be out of character for asgore" despite him being portrayed out of character more often than not, and ALSO she takes a step towards a more parental role before getting got in the neutral routes. she says room mates, but the stuff she says to clover make the emotional beats very clear. its not forced, its just another case of "what if this character was allowed to actually realize their development"
>>729019513and roba is too irresponsible and honestly clover would die in a domestic accident with either of themthe actual answer is pic related
>>729020073>only person who actually tells a child they aren't allowed to do something children shouldn't be allowed to do and doesn't just change their mind instantlyyou aren't wrong. still the idea of Martlet facing her failings and reaching her zenith as a person is very appealingI like to imagine Dina slapping them upside the head as they all learn how retarded they were coming back from that rooftop.
>>729019513>martlet always talks and interact with clover like bff>>729020060>she says room matesIt's for this reason I've always preferred the interpretation of her being an older sister. She's definitely far from mom material, but she's the type of big sis to step up and look after little bro when the parents can't do it
>>729020770EXACTLY!!!! also in the OFICIAL ARTBOOK THERE IS ONE ART OF STARLO AND CEROBA AS CLOVER PARENTS, SO "MOMLET" NEVER WAS CANON
>>729020770I see that as an expression of her confidence issues as well as only knowing clover for a day (though the whole deja vu from resets that some monsters have helps me justify that they feel like they've known clover for longer) . she's saying the right things, finally making a firm decision in her life as she talks about how kids shouldn't deal with all of this, but it would be weird of her to tell this kid she just met that she's their mombut if flowey didn't stop them, what is a "big sister like figure that steps into a parental role for someone without parents (or at least without them underground, since we can only infer with clover). I totally get that not everyone likes the whole momlet thing, but I'm saying its not forced by any means. its a natural expression of what her personality would drive her to be if she didn't stand in her own way, which she would have tried to do in the neutral route. if nothing else she would absolutely become clovers "guardian" in that route, but I really feel like she would become more of a motherly figure
>>729021126you just roll in from reddit or something?anyways momroba is good too and all, it just needs ceroba to actually face her character arc of "maybe letting children carry the world on their back is actually horrible" which everything she goes through points to her learning that lesson, but she too was robbed in the pacifist ending. she of all people after seeing the results of everything she failed should not be the one to tell clover "ok well if you're serious about killing yourself". it matches her old self, but not someone who just went through the life changing experience of "you're living your life the wrong way!" if ceroba doesn't face her inner demons then its just going to lead to clover finding a cause to go kill himself for and ceroba just saying "oh well I mean you seem pretty convinced so I'm sure nothing bad will happen"
>>729021359I've also brought this up before but ceroba seems to have decision making tunnel vision and really needs someone who's capable of checking her when she gets on that kind of shit. a bit of a "tard wrangler" if you will. Starlo tried, and my man has got some balls for standing against her like he did, but she unfortunately suffers from "having retard strength" apparently. she needs someone who can genuinely slap some sense into her when she comes up with an idea like "I need to inject this serum into my daughters eye its the only way" or "killing one more child will fix everything!"
>>729021616starlo would ultimately be a pretty safe option for him to stay with except that he too just let the suicide happen, and after he was willing to stand against ceroba like he did, its pretty clear he got kneecapped on character development too. I think he'd be at risk of losing himself to his cowboy shtick again after clovers death as he realizes the gravity of it all. I really like something a few fics did, where they had asgore inform them that humans dont turn to dust when they die when they don't realize what he means asking for the boys body, and so starlo goes back and retrieves it alone.I don't think any of them are getting out of the pacifist ending unscathed
>>729021359NTA but I just don't like momroba because it makes kanaclover "complicated"I don't mind whoever adopts clover otherwise
Momver when?
>>729021359>>729021616>>729021890i really gotta replay UTY because all of this flew over my head the first time i played it through
>>728955898flowey would not exist in yellowso nothing could be canon
>>729018194>Chujin is working on a way to break the barrier, which of course fails>Then some fragment of Aku steps through the barrier and introduces himself>He says that he too was wrongly imprisoned and oppressed by humans in the past, but no more>Now he's free and has created a world where creatures like him can thrive>He tells Chujin that he's sympathetic to the monster's plight, and wants to free them, but he needs help>An evil samurai has been fighting to undo all of his progress and send things back to how they were in the past>If he's not stopped, the monsters will never be free>However, he carries a magic sword, this sword is sharp enough to cut through anything, including the barrier>He only needs Chujin to build a robot strong enough to defeat him and take the sword, then they both will be saved>Chujin agrees, and gets to work building a robot >He presents the finished robot to Aku, and Aku smiles menacingly>The robot is ordered to destroy Jack by Aku, Chujin flinches at the order, but says nothing>The robot passes through the barrier easily because it is not alive>Eventually Jack encounters the robot,>At first it seems Jack has the upper hand, easily cutting off its arms>This changes when its arms rise up off the ground, suspended in the air by steam>Jack tries to cut the steam, only for how sword to pass straight through and do nothing>Jack tries to cut off its head, only for it too to start floating with the steam>It seems like all is lost when a rock falls and hits the robot on the head>It stumbles for a bit before regaining its balance>Jack thinks for a moment, then dashes for a nearby cliffside>He begins slashing at it, causing rocks to fall and pelt the robot, cracking glass and denting the chassis>Then he slashes particularly deep, and a boulder falls from the cliff side and begins rolling down hill.>The robot only narrowly dodges, losing a hand in the process>Jack smirks, before being interrupted by a scream(1/?)
>>729022730>A little girl is running down the hill, the boulder rolling behind her>Instantly Jack dashes after her>The robot follows close behind>Being on wheels, the robot moves much faster than Jack>Just as it catches up to Jack, he raises his weapon, only for it to blow right past him>It jumps in front of the boulder and shoves the girl out of the way>The boulder rolls over it, and the robot is crushed>Jack approaches the robot, which is now a crumpled sparking mess, and asks>"Why?">Back in Chujin's lab, Chujin in Aku are watching the fight on a small black and white tube tv, and Aku asks the same question>"I couldn't just let that girl get hurt." Chujin says>"Why not? You had him right there!" Aku responds>"Because she was an innocent child who had done no wrong. That samurai is our enemy, not the girl.">Aku's face sours "Exactly, that's why you should have ignored her and destroyed the samurai!">Chujin takes on a stern expression "My machines are tools to protect the innocent, not weapons to enact revenge. Its clear to me that I misjudgged you, Mr Aku. Our partnership is over, leave my worskshop.">Aku, who before stood shorter than Chujin, began to grow until he loomed head and shoulders over him>"Fine, if you will not help me, then I will make sure you never help anyone else either." Aku said menacingly, raising up a claw>Suddenly, the clash of steel rang in the air, and Aku's hand split from his body>Behind him stood samurai jack>"The Samurai!? But how?" Aku hissed>Jack held up a small device with a speaker and a flashing screen on it, it repeated in a tinny voice "the samurai?! but how?">Aku growled and lunged at Jack, only to be cut down>"Begone, demon, let the world be freed from your evil" Jack said>Aku responded with a laugh "Foolish samurai, this body is only a fragment of my true form. The rest lies safely outside the barrier. Which you will be trapped inside forever" he said, cackling as he faded(2/?)
>>729022875>He looked to Chujin, who nodded "Its true. My people have been trapped down here for millenia. Nothing can pass through the barrier created by your people.">"My people?" Jack asked.>"Yes, your people. They declared war on us without reason and sealed us underground with a magic barrier, which neither human nor monster can exit. And I fear that is how we will remain forever." Chujin replied, somber>"But how can this be? In my time, humans lived peacefully with all the creatures of the Earth." Jack said, shocked>"Your time?" Chujin asked>"I come from the distant past. I battled against Aku to protect the Earth from his evil. I was victorious, but he used his magic to send me far into the future. Now I seek a way back to my time so I can prevent any of this dark future from happening.">"You mean, you came from before my people were sealed underground? And you wish to go back?" Chujin asked>"Yes." Replied Jack>Chujin's face lit up "You could prevent the war from happening!">"Maybe I could have on the surface, but how would I do it when you said yourself I can't escape?">"Come with me" Chujin said, motioning for jack to follow him>He lead Jack to his laser>"Can I see your sword?" Chujin asked>Jack nodded and held it out>Chujin looked at it, "Hmm, yes, yes. That just might work">He dashed over to his laser and began working on it>Twisting bolts, pulling out wires, shoving new components in>"If I did my math right, this should work.">"What should?" jack asked, bemused>"Your ticket out." Chujin said, adjusting the dials on the machine "Now hold up your sword"(3/4)
>>729022968>Jack complied and held his sword in the air>Chujin pressed a button, and a beam shot out of the device and stuck the sword>The room was bathed in white light as the blade emitted a blinding flash>When the laser stopped, the blade glowed white with an audible hum>"Now your blade should be able to cut the barrier. It won't be deep and the hole won't last, but if you keep slashing it should be enough for you to break through." Chujin said>A look of concern flashed over Jack, "but what about y-">"There's no time for that!" Chujin interrupted "Now hurry up and go!">Jack's expression stiffened. He gripped his blade tightly and swung. With a loud clash it struck the barrier and a small cut opened it it>Again he swung and the cut deepened>He continued slashing, the cut eventually deep enough to step inside>Jack stepped forwared and continued slashing, slowly boring his way through>Finally he reached the other side>He turned around and looked back to Chujin>"Now hurry and follow!" Jack yelled>"I can't" Chujin replied "Its closing too fast. Besides, I can't leave my family behind.">"Don't worry, I'll be alright down here. I've lasted this long. You just worry about getting back to the past, so you can make sure none of this ever happened in the first place.">Jack wanted to say something, but couldn't find the words>Instead he just smiled and watched as Chujin smiled and waved back until the hole closed>Jack turned away from the cave and towards the horizon, the sun was setting>"Aku, no matter what it takes, I will find my way back and stop you. For everyone's sake."> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwzM-ZMA13Y&t=5(4/4)
>>729017463Can you read?
>>729022171I can respect that, though them being siblings is cute as well from a normal perspective. this is largely just about the character dynamics and what needs to happen for it to "work" as any of the main characters definitely need to go to some counseling before they are allowed to care for a child again>>729022398for all of yellows flaws, I see the criticism sometimes that the characters are very plain, but viewing them across the routes its not that they are plain, they just didn't get to complete the arcs that were clearly being set up for them due to story elements conflicting with a previously in motion arc. theres a lot of compelling stuff there behind that though.
>>729018318Usually, but not all the time. Like the Tale of x9 just ends with the good robot who was forced into attacking Jack getting cut down like all the rest. His dog doesn't even get rescued.
>>729019513That's what makes it good. She's utterly incompetent, but she cares about Clover, and she's the only one who would.
>>729019513It's not really forced at all. From the get go it was already established that Martlet and Clover have a bond of some kind regardless of the route.Martlet does want Clover to ultimately be safe, and is prepared to literally go against her king in order to do that. She wanted Clover to live with her, and Clover accepted.Martlet shows her best when she's motivated to do her best. This has already been proven in Genocide and Pacifist.Martlet is far from being to young, she just needed the right motivator, and Clover was that person. Clover inspires Martlet to be a better version of herself.Because of that should she become his adopted parent, which is pretty much par for the course, since under normal circumstances this is what would happen, she wouldn't allow herself to let him down.I think the problem, as many had already pointed out, is the game failed to deeply explore Martlet and Clover's bond, since we know from the devs, that Martlet and Clover were always going to be incredibly close.They were so focused on giving Ceroba everything that it somehow never occurred to them that other characters were being neglected. Dalv, Martlet, Starlo. All of them should have gotten personal moments with Clover.
>>729023031I like this, but I'm now faced with the fact that I don't like that jack actually did go back in time in the ending nullifying all the times he let portals get destroyed and all of the future people he fought for that may simply stop existing. though thats pushing things a little off topic. still these beats feel appropriate for an episodes plot>>729023289true, but like the post above it does match the kind of theming that a lot of episodes use with aku deceiving someone, and that persons inner good causing them to reject aku, which also fits the inner good that chujin is shown to have.
>>729021616So what you're saying is Roba needs a human husband.
>>729022304you will get dadjin and you will like it that's all we can afford
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>>729021126You are aware the developers straight up said that Martlet and Clover were designed to be incredibly close with one another, far more the other characters right?This isn't even speculation, the two of them were always supposed to have that kind of relationship. Martlet is the equivalent of what Toriel is to Frisk.Except Martlet sticks with Clover throughout his journey. Also Martlet refers to Clover as her child in the game. The whole Momlet concept is more canon than you think.
>>729023671>true, but like the post above it does match the kind of theming that a lot of episodes use with aku deceiving someone, and that persons inner good causing them to reject aku, which also fits the inner good that chujin is shown to have.If Chujin were to die, it would be some kind of heroic self sacrifice, rather than a simple tragedy like x9.
>>729023502the key thing is that while we were robbed of the full realization of a lot of these things, we got enough to very clearly know some of these aspects of the characters. martlet never gets to fully realize her potential outside of the genocide route due to floweys meddling in neutral and writer insanity in pacifist, but we get to see the beginnings of her actions making it clear who she is at heart.
>>729024060I thought the same, but I couldn't remember if samurai jack ever had a non robot sacrifice themselves like that since it avoided violence in very particular ways aside from the adult swim run.honestly reading that green above I was half expecting chujin to give jack his soul so that jack could exit the barrier again.
>>729024160If it were an AS episode, Chujin would have been mortally wounded fighting Aku and would have given his soul to Jack so he could escape.
>>729024014I'm all in on momlet but I dont remember the line of her calling clover her child.
>>729024230my complaints about the AS run aside, that wouldn't be a terrible way to handle it. something with jack swearing he'd free their people as chujin expresses fear for his family he's leaving behind or something. "on my honor I swear, your family will see the sun again"
>>729024291always makes me wonder what horrible shit clover's parents/guardians were doing to make him put on this independent justice seeker persona that crumbles away once martlet/toriel offer to take care of him
>>729023758Dadjin in unironically an underrated dynamic. It could even still work with Kanaclover, since father-in-law-jin is still a form of dadjin, especially when the son in law in question never had a proper father figure.
>>729015848god I love scaramouche
>>729024291It only happens in Pacifist, after you talk to Martlet on the Rooftop. When she's accompanying you, if you speak to an Npc, she calls Clover her child, when she's asked what her relationship with Clover is.
>>729024485maybe his parents were killed as bystanders in some kind of crime, thus causing clover to get put into the system. being a powerless kid, he eventually runs away trying to find some kind of purpose or meaning. then its up to how the story unfolds whether clover "realizes" the monsters were stuck in their own plight in the cycle of injustices, or if he becomes vengeance lashing out essentially over a world that wronged him. all of that crumbles in the face of someone actually providing him care he hasn't seen in the couple years since his parents died. maybe in the trail, one of the criminals who killed his parents got off with a lighter sentence because they threw the other person under the bus, and thats why he loses his shit at axis in genocide.
>>729024765oh yeah the shopkeeper sock guy>>729024707I really like the idea, and it gives a good pivoting point for chujins battle with his prejudice versus his inner goodI'm still hoping the green I requested along those lines ends up happening.
>>729002210>two rtf>partners>now light in the murka true christmas miracle
>>729025109devious squirrel
>>729024707Dadjin would probably turn into one of those "Dad and the dog" stories.
>>729024396I actually think Chujin would work better in a CN era crossover than an AS one, which is why I wrote the green in that style. I just suggested that as how it would go if it were done in season 4.
i present the option nobody's thought about before: momadie>time between UTY and UT is ~15 years (ignoring the fact that this is a ridiculous amount of time for the amalgam stuff to go on for, but fuck it the time scale's ruined anyways)>sadie's a grown adult now>hears that the humans have been revived >"oh hey, one of them was that kid that sat on the swing with me that one time">sees that they need caretakers>realizes that she's one of the only monsters he knows in actual parenting age, everyone else is too old now.>she decides to take him in because he's a sweet kid and deserves a proper upbringing.
>>729025231thats very fair. nothing was unreasonable with what you wrote, just the different eras have me thinking of different ways that could have gone even as I was reading it. I definitely think even as chujin was losing the plot, if he felt he was actually working for "the greater evil" he would react about how you put it. after all even as he goes off the rails he has the right goal in mind, so if he saw aku for what he was he'd reject that.
>>729025237I'll be honest anon, when I red "momadie" I expected some bullshit, but I can live with what you laid out.
>>729024782I think that's a bit too fantastic of a backstory for Clover. More likely he was abused and abandoned by his parents, and sought comfort in old John Wayne style westerns because of how simple and idealistic they made the world seem. And without a proper figure, he instead took influence from the heroes in his movies, leading to the cowboy persona.
>>729025547I only go with something like that to justify why he may go full justice purifier route. it takes something pretty crazy for a kid to consider cleaning out the underground, considering if you just progress with only killing every monster you normally encounter its still not a justicide route. what kind of wacky shit drives a kid to scour the ruins back and forth for people to justify killing.
>>729025764the absolutely unhinged shit people do with the sprites never fails to amaze me
>>729025202I feel like Chujin would be hard on Clover because of racism, but that would get disarmed by a lack of any negative response from Clover. Chujin would put all kinds of strict standards on Clover, way worse than anyone else, but because Clover is all about Justice and he sees Chujin as a good and just man, he would view it as being harsh but fair. Which would lead to Chujin's view of Clover softening as he realizes Clover actually is a good kid.Plus I imagine if he can't get rid of him, he'd at least want to make him the best man possible for Kanako's sake.
>>728955898The one where Clover stays with Martlet as her roommate and they live happily ever after.
>>729025883I imagine down the line after chujin has warmed up to him, after a few years he might notice that clover was being unusually hard on himself, holding himself up to impossible standards at times. and it dawns on chujin that its because of how much he respected chujin when he was younger
>>729026050>Not on my watch!
>>729025408>just the different eras have me thinking of different ways that could have gone even as I was reading it.Me too. I actually considered including the idea that Aku started the war between the humans and monsters by showing the same group of humans who sealed the monsters underground also fought under Aku, since that's what CN would have done, but it didn't fit so I left it out. If it were AS, the humans would have declared war because Aku, being very monstrous himself and employing many monstrous creatures in his service, began to fear the monsters. Essentially, the humans not knowing the difference between the monsters and Aku's armies attacked them as though they were Aku.
>>729026181I'm gonna fucking kill that flower
>>729026284>Aku, being very monstrous himself and employing many monstrous creatures in his service, began to fear the monsters.that makes a lot of sense, and we've seen beings that are literally just good people etc corrupted and possessed by aku juice before. I dont actually know if the archers in that tower episode were possessed by aku energy or just generic "curse" but theres a lot of work with to suggest the early humans could be riled up into doing something like that
>>729025716I think just a lifetime of abuse and mistreatment would be enough. His whole life he's been mistreated by and seen others be mistreated by evil people, and the evil people never get what they deserve. Hell, maybe they even did a lot of cry bullying and poor me routines to justify their actions, which is why he's so deaf to the monster's plight.
>>729026181FLOWEY N-
>>729025424Who would win?
>>729026409I could see that too, its just not hard for me to imagine an absurd backstory for how out of the way you have to go to make justicide actually happen. that said I prefer less edgy backstories for clover than what I suggested most of the time.
>>729025764a day in the life with an amalgam gf
>>729026469he spend too much time talking to chujin during his saves
>>729026112I didn't make the connection before, but their relationship would basically be the one between Clint Eastwood and that Korean kid in Gran Torino.
>>729025803You just reminded me of a porn gif I saw of some guy's OC fucking DRYkanako on her bedroomI wish I didn't remember
