Sonic characters just kind of suck, don't they?
they aren't, but SEGA got trauma from ken penders and they have the brainrot of "WE CAN'T LET OUR CHARACTERS CHANGE OR BE TOO EMOTIONAL OR HAVE DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE OUR BRAAAAAAND", so they're like hardcoded into being kinda boring most of the time and carried solely by their personalities. And they hate making new characters even though IDW has a ton of bangers and Sage was really good
>>728956442Mephiles when?
>>728956442I wouldn’t mind letting some of them suckKnawaddamean?
Remove Zavok, Zazz, Tangle, Whisper, and Prime charactersAdd Gamma, Tikal, Chaos, Fang, Mephiles, Maria, Lumina, Void, and Ariem
Still better than Nick or Minecraft crap.
>>728956735Never, he's dead.
>>728956442nobody gives a shit about the zeti, you could have swapped them out with fucking bomb and heavy and gotten more of a popoff
>>728956442Yeah, but the girls are hot.
I didn’t play Frontiers but everything about Sage being Eggman’s daughter sounds really corny.
no Eggman is one of them
>>728957438especially wave the swallower
I never played lost worldZavok and Zazz look weird next to the rest of the cast, but I like Zavok's voice and Zazz is amusingI'm going to hate both of them, the game, and myself if I play lost world, aren't I.
>>728956442They would improve tenfold if Sega decided to just make the renders look cooler>>728956593>so they're like hardcoded into being kinda boring most of the time and carried solely by their personalities.They where always static characters in the games. If you didn't like that aspect of them, you didn't like them at all.>even though IDW has a ton of bangersLike gay crying lesbian 1 and gay crying lesbian 2 and hard boiled lesbian. Is idw Sonic or Steven Universe i forget.
>>728957264No he is trapped in White Space
>>728956442The problem is these guys taint the game with their mere appearance. They can't let them go...but nobody ever liked them ...they have no fans....and nobody played the games...so why?
>>728959101The game is incredibly lame yes
>>728956593>but SEGA got trauma from ken penders and they have the brainrot of "WE CAN'T LET OUR CHARACTERS CHANGE OR BE TOO EMOTIONAL OR HAVE DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE OUR BRAAAAAANDSega has never been good at character writing, anon. Penders didn't start that.
>Zazz is paired with SurgeZeena bros, it's over.Mobius ain't big enough for 2 mean green girls
>>728960662Whisper when
>>728959101a large portion of the game is just watching your animations as you fly to the next small section. you think you are having fun one moment and then its a 10 second cutscene, and this happens every 30 seconds
>>728961321That description just makes it sound like most 3D Sonic games.The real problem is that it's just a mediocre clone of Mario Galaxy and DKC.
>>728960803Whisper and Tangle are already in
>>728961434there are setpiece spring pads and such in other games but that flair only lasts at most half a second. there were loading screens too but at least you went into a new area. lost world transitions are more equivalent to loading screens. i was sick of 10 second loading screens between each minecraft chunk before finishing the first worldthough i have similar complaints for sonic 2+ since they do the same type of bullshit with tubes so maybe it really just isn't my series
>>728960662saving my red rings for the next blaze skin
>>728961519Oh good.
>>728959474You can't actually think "shadow has to live in a cave" is good.
>>728962309Boom is a horrible spinoff that never should have been made yes. Can we talk about the real Sonic now.
>>728956442I think this is the best roster in a Sonic Racing title. Has all of Team Sonic, Rose, Dark, Chaotix Eggman's team, Silver and Blaze, Babylon Rogues and couple Deadly 6 members along with the guest characters. Sega should keep with this in future racers with whatever guest characters they put in.
>>728962412>a horrible spinoff that never should have been madeBut enough about Prime.
>>728962765Both are dogshit that never should have been made. glad we agree
>>728962827Oh no, Boom was great. Best Sonic show since AotStH. SatAM, Prime, X...those are the bad ones.
I'm not into any adaptation of Sonic where he has a permanent address. Sonic should never stick around in one place for longer than a week.
>>728956442i would have bought it if the brought back vyse.
>>728960662I hate American Sonic characters
>>728962976>X>The only show that correctly characterizes everyone and has shit like pic related >BadYou need to kill yourself as fast as possible. Boom is like if all of X was Chris whining about being rich. All edging and no cumshot
>>728956442>No Nights>No Amigo>No AiAi>No ChuChu>No Ryo>No Sakura>No Ristar>No Ulala>No Vyse>But Spongebob>FUCKING SPONGEBOB
>>728963437ChuChu would have been based as fuck. I miss the old Sega that added ChuChu into PSO. Even not adding Kiryu and Majima is fucking retarded when Ichiban is already there.
>>728963437NiGHTS and Aiai were already announced for Crossworlds. As for the rest, we will have to wait and see.
>>728963437It's especially retarded because it's not like Smash where a whole ass moveset is needed for every character, it's a facing game.SEGA has a goldmine of IPs and they're just letting them die.
>>728956442Why don't they put Sally Acorn, Grounder, Scratch, etc.? They should put the siblings from Sonic Underground too. Sonic as a franchise has clearly embraced itself as a meme franchise. They might as well just say "fuck it, here's every character ever go nuts".
>>728963546>I miss the old Sega that added ChuChu into PSOI think that was mainly a Yuji Naka thing, since he directed the original Chu Chu Rocket. The modern equivalent is Iizuka putting in Nights references in anything when given the chance.
>>728963348A large majority of X was boring and looked like shit. At that point I'd rather just watch the OVA. At least its characterization was entertaining.
>>728963903Can Sega even do that legally? I bet they don't want to learn if they could because that would be too much of a hassle.
>>728956442No, they are fucking awsome designs But With the souless NSMB style renders and models Segas been using post 06, they might aswell FUCKING SUCK. It is a fucking cruel joke Sonics model is the same he's had FOR ALMOST 2 DECADES with minimal changes that, arguably, just made it look worse
>>728963789Worse yet, they don't even bother adding voice lines for DLC characters. Characters like Ichiban feel half-assed as hell if you aren't playing on PC where mods can do some heavy lifting.
>>728964142Prease undastandu, smarr indie company.
>>728956593Completely true post that trvked sonicfags out of the water
>>728964063>Can Sega even do that legally?For the most part, yes. It really just comes down to the Japanese devs not caring (or even being aware) that those characters exist. Most reoccurring characters in the series are usually just pet-characters for one of the Sonic Team devs (e.g., Silver).
>>728963437Don't be retarded, anon. Google is right there.
>>728964142>$70 game + $30 season pass + online fees if you're on a console.>Couldn't even bother to give the DLC characters voices.Bravo SEGA.
>>728963903Because Sega doesn't like to acknowledge anything from the 90s US cartoons and comics.
>>728964580The funniest part of it to me is every character, including the AI skins that are just distorted gibberish, has unique model, texture, and voice files for standalone modding.The paid SpongeBob and Patrick DLC however, has shared bubble sfx for voices, so not even modding can bring both up to par.
>>728956442They don't have to suck.
>>728964054I never found it boring, but I'm the type of person who is heavily invested in Sonic being written well so it appeals to me specificity. I admit that if your not that into Sonic, the first two seasons might not be appealing
>>728964142is Nickelodeon ASB all over again, Spongebob being there make it even more funny
>>728965010>I'm the type of person who is heavily invested in Sonic being written wellI'm interested in anything I watch being written well, that's why I wasn't impressed with X.
>>728956442I honestly only know about sonic and tails. All the other characters are just strange newcomers
Is this the crossworlds thread or nah
>>728963903Sally is too sexy for modern audiences
>2/6 of the Deadly Six because either Sega knows no one likes them or they don't want a MK8 Koopalings situation>no G/emerl despite the latter being playable in Rumble of all games>No Vanilla despite these games being the only time you could have her be on the same level as everyone else>no Sticks despite Sega pretending that she's "canon">no Classic characters despite there being a Superstars track>can't even play as Dodonpa, the character they created specifically for these games>no Chaos, Tikal, Commander Tower, Elise, Black Doom, etc. etc.
>>728966198Elise is never coming back
>>728966198Does anyone really want to race as Commander Tower?
>>728956442Better than Mario characters
>>728966415I'd argue more people would rather play as Elise than Zavok or Zazz, but regardless the point is that there's a shitload of characters they could use to make the roster a bit more interesting, but they won't use them for arbitrary reason #408.
>>728966482pair him with the GUN truck and people will go gaga
>>728956442Sonic has about 10 characters that are pinicles of character design, you can immediatly get an idea of their personality just by looking at them and easily understand how they would react to situations.Then there's the rest of them.
>>728966198Rumble gets to be an "everyone is here" game since you're playing as toys made by Eggman, not the characters themselves. The faggots at Sega don't want dead or absent characters showing up otherwise, even though that's a dumb thing to care about for a game like this and the crossworld gimmick even gives a convenient excuse to include whoever.