Don't tell me you actually do this
>>728960776I do this in TES games but with a jrpg like Etrian Odyssey you might as well just write a book since you'll be doing 90% of the work
I wish I was autistic enough to do this. I remember when I was younger I could read books, stop for a second after a certain part, close my eyes and fully imagine in my head everything that I read. My imagination and youtful wonder is gone
Is this the original "what do they eat"?
>>728960776If you didn't do this shit in the nu-XCOM games you don't have a soul.
>>728961295vaxxxes and fluoride and goyslop crystalized your pineal gland
>>728960776Humans indeed used to use their imagination a lot. Now that we don't have to, people are stupid.
I do this with literally every game I play.
>>728961063First post best post.I'm going to make a game that generates a single image and tells the user to use their imagination to "play" it.
>>728960776As a teenager, whenever I beat a Dark Souls boss I imagined what it would be like to rape them after defeating them. Yes, even Sif.
>>728960776I do it, but I won't do it if the developer is specifically telling me to do it. Fuck off, you're the story teller, tell your fucking story and don't ask me to fill in the places you were too lazy to write characters.
>>728961419>>728961295you can fix it with dude weed and good music
>>728961648This is why I hate dialogue options and stories with "routes" and "different endings".Have a fucking ending in mind that makes sense, don't make me choose that shit for you.
>>728960776It's the main draw of games like fire emblem. The only reason the permadeath + randomness works is because it creates stories.
>>728960776
>>728961295>>728961419>>728961728SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
>>728963643quality post
>>728960776What are the best games to do this? Kenshin?
>>728961295This. I miss when I cared enough to think about stuff like this. Now I struggle to find any enjoyment in anything at all.
>>728962047Incredible, Anon
>>728960776Why do I even need the game for then? I can just imagine all of this in my mind. Vidya is inherently for people with no imagination or for people who want to experience the creations of other peoples imaginations. this dude just puffing smoke up your ass why its ok for their games to be lifeless and sterile just like the retards who actually play this slop.
>>728962047based but also cringe
>>728960776This is the kind of autistic retard who thinks that roleplaying in a video game is pretending to be a town guard in Oblivion.
>>728960776i do this all the time playing Mount and Blade, especially fantasy overhaul mods. it makes me feel very immersive to feel the loss of elite troops in bloodbath you didn't choose to fight because marshal is an idiot or you must stand your ground alone while calling for support from your faction that never came, prompting you to lose faith in faction and rebel etc.
>>728967097I did that and it was fun
>>728966083>>>/tg/
>>728960776I do this all the time but it's exhausting and kinda pointless in grind-heavy games like jrpgs. There are better genres out there for this kind of thing and imo the more story there is to work with, the better. Soulslikes and CRPGs that let you make up a guy are the easiest to work with ime.
>>728962047How do I acquire such power? Also what app?
>>728960776in Grandia, after almost every story beat, all the NPCs have new dialogue, that was funthen you get excited to finding an inn to stay, because you can choose to have a meal, and run through the dialogue with your party
>>728960776>A landsknecht who uses an axe might eat his meat with his bare hands and no utensils, but one who wields a sword might prefer a knife and fork at dinner.
>>728960776Of course I do you joyless husk. Half the fun of vidya is imagination.
>>728960776Wait, you don't LARP as a nobody-commander who emerges from the conflict out of nowhere and being central decisive factor in winning the war against the evils?
>>728960776You're telling me you can choose whether you do this? For me it just depends on how good the game is. Games communicate details about the world, story, and characters through the feel of their gameplay. When the gameplay grips me, questions like this flow naturally, and are answered as I play.
I miss being a child able to enter the world of video games
>>728962047This is peak please tell me how you got started with this.
isn't the point of RPG game is to feel immersive and amaze in your own imagination of what your truest desire of what you want to be?
>>728961579chicken or egg?this guy's fantasies or black souls?
>>728969328the point of a role playing game game is you are playing the role of a character you created, which is why jrpgs aren't rpgs
>>728960776of course I do, that's the main draw of the Niggas Exploring a Cave genre
>>728960776I do.What will you do now that I have told you this retardation?
>>728961295Just like any muscle, exercise is required to maintain strength.
>>728960776This is retarded. The only games that I actually do some imaginary roleplay with is TES and a few CRPGs that allow for immersion. JRPGs are just games, I have fun dungeon crawling in Etrian Odyssey but I don’t see it as anything other than a fun game, not some experience I can immerse myself in
>>728960776My EO3 characters were all based on Roman historical/mythological figures to match the theme of that game.The farming team was from the Cambridge Latin course.
>>728961063>I do this in TES gamesI love TES, weird how despite of laying the world around you they still force the player to use their imagination.Also fuck you EO is great
>>728968424Stop doomscrolling
>>728961560>I'm going to make a game that generates a single image and tells the user to use their imagination to "play" it.>not generating a single pixel and telling the user to use their imagination to "fill in the blanks">not sending a .txt file telling the user "imagine you're playing my game"
>>728972180Using your imagination is extremely healthy
>>728960776Recently picked up and played the first Etrian Odyssey game. I usually headcannon stuff in games, but I think EO lends itself well to doing this because of how simple it is. I started the second game and was able to keep my save data, so my guild has moved on to the new region. Some members retired, some left for personal reasons, others stayed. Its nice that the game lets you have some renown if you choose to. Very happy that the new game has enough classes from the jump to let me have an A team and a B team, although EO2 feels very different.
>>728975312favorite song?
>>728961295>having to stop and think to imagine instead of just having it happen while you readngmi
I do it with everything, even stuff like Prototype where I would disguise as people and pretend to be them for a while.
>>728975627This is me in Hitman
>>728960776Lame excuse for lazy game design. You might as well never evolve beyond text adventures because players can just imagine the visuals and gameplay.
>>728978004By that logic, every game that doesn't fill the runtime with pages of text is lazy design.
>>728978091The upper limit is debatable, but when there's literally zero lore or context, it's indisputably lazy.
>>728978170But the games do have lore. It's just your party that's blank slates.
>>728978218That's the lazy part. Don't excuse your lack of roleplaying with "just imagine it bro." How about I just imagine a video game instead of buying yours.
>>728978256What are they supposed to do? Give you a premade party? Nexus did that and that got people to whine a lot? Make personality some kinda stat?
>>728978170But the game shown in the OP has lore and context...
>>728978256don't blow a gasket, aphantasia-anon.
>>728978359It can be a stat, or dialogue, or character branching stories, as long as it involves gameplay somehow. Otherwise it's just copium.
>>728963643Stfu retard. I bet a kid walks up to you bumps your leg in the supermarket and you screech like that at full lung capacity.
I’m 30 years old and i make my own stories in my head when I sleep. Right now I have a story about a captain of a kings army who has to navigate politics and helping the royal family, while also helping the “hero” of the story.
>>728960776But I do indeed do that.
>>728978590>the characters don't have any personality unless they talk and the talking has to be beholden to gameplay in a traditional branching story formatWhat the fuck?
>>728961295I'd wager it's stress that keeps it away from you.>>728978685Based. Isn't it great to be able to entertain yourself like that?>Muh escapism badYour imagination was with you as soon as your brain developed enough to have it, and your imagination will be with you to the very end. I cherish it more than gold.
>>728978791Yes, they don't have any personality if you have to imagine it. If you have to imagine things then you might as well imagine playing a game in the first place instead of actually playing it.
>>728961295>I remember when I was younger I could read books, stop for a second after a certain part, close my eyes and fully imagine in my head everything that I read. My imagination and youtful wonder is goneIt never left, you just fried your brain by being on your pc/phone all day consuming slop non-stop.Your ability to "imagine" is something that will obviously deteriorate if you keep drowning your head with useless shit. If you truly wanted to you could easily train your brain to get that kind of imagination again, it requires to stop staring at a screen 24/7 so most here won't be able to though.
>>728978893Their personality is a function of their appearance and how they feel in gameplay.
>>728978945That's a projection of personality, so literally imagination.
>>728978986Let's use an analogy.If an FPS gives me a "desert eagle" with weak sound design and bad stopping power for its size, it is a bad desert eagle. The way it feels to use it doesn't match what it's meant to be.Thus, the "character" of a desert eagle in a game comes from its gameplay utility as well as its appearance and any writing associated with it. Not solely the appearance and writing.The same applies to literally everything within a game.
>>728979265That's okay, you can just imagine that it's a characteristic desert eagle. That's what these devs would want you to do instead of taking the effort to design it in a way that doesn't force you to imagine.
>>728979459>force you to imagineCan you not just do it automatically?
>>728960776I can't do it, not for JRPGs, like pokemon.With some games like pathfinder the text might say something happens and yet the chracters stand afk doing nothing which also breaks my immersion. If I'm going to read actions you might as well black out the screen and only show text which it sometimes does.
>>728979554Can't you? What does it matter if it's a "bad" deagle? Don't you just automatically imagine that it sounds and feels right? How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
>>728979615i didnt have breakfast this morning
>>728960776With every single Etrian Odyssey game, and you have no idea how long it took me to give each one of my characters names.
>>728979771Off top
>>728979615I'm gonna be real, you are getting steamed over a Japanese wizardry clone. It doesn't give the party any identity beyond a sprite and the stats you give them because that's how the DOS games did it, customization, and they were DS games. Is it such a sin that they pulled a "hey you can fill in the blanks"?
>>728979986I just said that it's lazy and that excusing it with "use your imagination" is lame. I'll just imagine I'm playing a better RPG.
>>728980194There's a difference between laziness and cutting the fat. Let's be honest with ourselves. Writing is completely unnecessary when it comes to video games. EO is better because you have to imagine it.
>>728980470So let's just do text adventures, I'll imagine better gameplay and visuals than anything these devs could make.
>>728980470I'll go to bat for EO but not that far dude, jeez. You're allowed to like having minimal writing but it's not the only way to make a game.
>>728980632If you really feel like imagining small details about a character based on how they behave in gameplay is on the exact same level as making up the gameplay in your head, I think you don't understand how imagination or engagement with fiction works.
>>728967207BASED, annon.i make and an RP and plot about a skilled orphan human ranger with an adventure to find his origin parentage (who is legendary ranger father in-game faction : Kregan County) that left protag at a village bordering vampire's territory who grew up to be a servant of vampire house, then rose through military rank within vampire house as mere human man and find forbidden love with vampire princess whose personality is to live an adventurous life and wish to travel with you in a quest to find your past. RPG is only fun if you let yourself drown in your own thoughts and story that you wish to play with.
>>728980642I only got to that point because the other guy had the opposite opinion. You know that thing where the more you're told you're wrong, you feel more right. It's that.
>>728980789I can imagine as much or as little gameplay as I want. Therefore the devs don't need to add it, my ideal vision will surpass anything they put out. Same as roleplaying. Why add anything to games when we can just imagine it?
>>728980852based autist
>>728960776Ofcourse I do this. My Nexus playthrough I decided to make the survivalist (Cod) the cocky older brother trying to be a father figure. A glasses gunner (Remora) who is team mom but also often the butt of jokes. The stern old War Magus (Pike) raised both of them but now acts as the team grandpa. And then the abrasive Ronin (Sawara) and shy Ninja (Sayori) were the young twins, they're real troublemakers, but in the final battle they ended up being the ones who saved the world.Together, they are the Dead Fish Family.
>>728961295God, I basically canibalized my capability to enjoy music on its own terms in order to use it as inspiration of my imagination.I still think it was worth it but I wish i didn't have to do that.
>>728961063That is pretty gay, Anon. It might actually be worse with TES.
>>728960776I do in fact do this with EO and Wizardry. I do every time I replay Dragon Quest III as well, using each characters personality and class to roleplay how they talk, think, act, and react in my head. It's part of why I generally prefer RPGs where you make a party to ones where you don't, although those are still great too.
>>728979808What were the names you gave your last EO party? For me they were Hideto, Rosanna, Aoi, Lars, and Yngwie.
>>728971406ThisPassive entertainment is the death of imagination
What are some games that give independent in customize your party with "imagination"?
>>728985050every RPG, except jrpg(in some extend) gives you the freedom to do whatever you wants if you are creative in your own fantasy.
>>728982245is it just a matter of getting less enjoyment, or hyper focusing on it too hard that your ears can't enjoy it anymore after so many listens and it feels like wasted time if you aren't using it for inspirational purposes?
>>728960776Recommend me some games where I can do this.Hard mode: no TES
>>728960776You have to be able to see the apple to understand.
>>728987353Dragon Quest 3Nearly all the Wizardry gamesThe Etrian Odyssey series (that's the game in the OP)
>>728961295You've just got to read slower.I read really fast, like a fantasy novel in a day fast, but when reading my favorite books I intentionally read slow, taking in every paragraph.My problem before was that I was treating books like a game I was trying to remove from my backlog instead of something to enjoy.
>>728960776I remember like 15+ years ago on /v/ how this is what made blobbers immersive. They would use this exact image.Now in 2025 they're mocking this nerdy idea. I just find that funny.
>>728978687I feel bad for anyone who can't properly picture these scenarios. It makes that last desperate struggle or barely managing a win feel that much better.
>>728966836>why read books when you can just think thoughts yourself, you have an imagination right?Yellow fever addled retard.
>>728987621>why read books when you can just think thoughts yourself, you have an imagination right?He's not wrong? Imagination is free, you create your own challenge, gameplay, and story.
>>728960776This logic would apply very well with sandbox-style RPG and not jap RPG that lays clear objective on what you need to achieve to get X achieved.
>>728988283>This logic would apply very well with sandbox-style RPGlike skyrim? you get voice acting, cinematic storytelling, immersive graphics. something like etrian odyssey gives you just simple objectives your imagination is way more important in blobbers than bethesda shit slop
>>728967207reading this made me realize how little there was RTS/RPG. turks could've made one of the best RPG in the world, yet, they fucked it up. i hope there is more mod or future inspired games that could spice up some RPG and QoL elements.
>>728960776I do this in Age of Empires
>>728987546Zoomers don't have imagination. They can't even stay still for 5 minutes or read a book.
>>728960776Wizardry variants Daphne is superior to etrian odyssey
>>728960776>>728961063>>728961295the coolest part is that today you can imagine something and then actually create it. Implement it into your game. Like a mod for a video game or even your own video game.
>>728960776This is fine in Etrian Odyssey but it is cope when done TES.
>>728990879>it is cope when done TES.Its the whole point of TES since you cant actually do any roleplaying within the game.
>>728990879What do you mean? It works fine in TES. Especially with alternative start mods.
>>728990948That's not "the whole point". It hasn't been "the whole point" since Morrowind
>>728989963>AIslopKys
>>728960776Any youtube channels dedicated to this kind of autism? All I find about gaming is always about how to min/max and competitive play
>>728991879You're better off looking into screenshot LPs/AARs for this kind of thing. Easiest to find ones are LParchive filtered by narrative tags. X-com, LobCorp and Animal crossing are some that come to mind.It's basically mixing fan-fiction into an actual run of a game, which is difficult to do properly and is becoming ever more rare by the year given the effort involved.
>>728961419I am vaxed2maxx, drink the unfiltered tap water straight from the hose, and eat frozen dinners or fast food for fully 75% of my meals, and my autistic imagination is such that I sometimes try to mimic eating in games to times I'm eating in real life. I remember first doing this at 11 or 12 years old, playing The Simpsons: Hit and Run. I drove to the Krusty Burger in-game and asked my grandma if we could go to A&W to get burgers, and we did. I ate it on the couch while sitting in the drive-thru in-game, and it was the most satisfying burger I ever ate.So yeah, either the flouride and vaxxes made give you the autistic superimagination, or my autism smashed through their obstruction like an icebreaker.
>>728991836what do you mean AI slop? You know you can draw shit yourself, right? It's not even hard. Blender is open source. Libresprite, GIMP, Paint.NET, Notepad++ are all open source.I don't need an AI to write or adjust a simple line of code in .lua script that interacts with the game's API and makes modding easier than ever. Factorio is a good example of that.The Elder Scrolls traditionally give you the SDK enviroment to mod them. So does the Witcher series.Mount and Blade is written in python and though some parts are hard coded, you can easily unpack the scripts and easily modify them. All of the items in the game, for example, are just an array of data in a text file. Not hard to change.Picrel is a texture I have created myself in 3 minutes for a blocky voxel game mods, such as Minecraft, Luanti, etc.TL;DR: AI my ass, retard.
>>728962047I want this guy in my D&D sessions.
>>728990948>>728991128The difference between TES "roleplaying" and roleplaying in other RPGs is like Critical Role vs actually playing the rules of the game.
>>728992908I have no idea what you mean by this.
>>728992908Your image makes me angry, I hope from the filename that it is posted in mockery. Because I am BIG MAD.
>>728962047What the fuck
>>728967207I usually do this too, but only the first time at the start of the game>give backstory, usually ends with dad/mom getting killed by bandits and swearing revenge>recruit first troops, most blow me off>chase down and kill first looters/bandits>imagine burying first troops who died and regretting getting them killed>want revenge against bandits for family/men>hunt down bandits and be merchant until get recruited as a merc by random kingdom. Most interesting was after the dlc. sea raiders caught me and killed my first ship i saved up for. Merchant'd until I got enough cash for another ship, helped a random patrol kill sea raiders, stole one of their ships and wreaked havoc in revenge for like 2 years on them until battania asked to recruit me to fight vlandia. Then felt like I was some norse mercenary coming down from the frozen north to kill french/english
>>728962047I wish I had that level of autism.
>>728960776I have always done this.I did this with Sim City and FZero as a kid, being the Mayor and both Racer and Coach, respectively.My oblivion characters stopped for lunch and sold what loot they found in ruins to try to buy a house.My Skyrim character is a guy trying to become a self sufficient master blacksmith.The best thing to happen to vidya for me, was VR.
>having to explain imagination to peopleHylic coded.
>>728978791Something as simple as customizable battle cry or battle shoutout can go a long way to breath personality into your adventurers, you fucking fucktard. Don't try to excuse lazy dev.
>>728960776no wonder this series felt mid as hell
>>728960776>release something as barebone as an indie RPGMaker for $80>don't even bother to inject any roleplaying element into the game>J-just use your imagination bro!Even on all platforms, F.L.O.P.P.E.D!
>>729001773>release a 20 year old DS game on steam>$80>can't buy games separately>fonts are totally fucked for some reason>DRM>forgot to actually put DRM on the game at launch, and everyone who wanted to play it just pirated it so they didn't have to deal with DRMSega will never learn
>>728960776I do this somewhat, mainly just imagining the gory scene when a character gets killed, like when playing Dragon Quest II HD and a scorpion does a successful instant kill on Moonbrooke, the scream she lets out I imagine is the scream as it comes after her, just before it swiftly rips her entire throat out with it's claw or tail and leaves her silent and motionless on the floor.
>>728960776Don't tell me you can't do this.
>>728987546The modern /v/ poster hates imagination and creativity, and is more concerned with self image on an websites that's entirely anonymous. That or they are just trolling. No one here has passion anymore, it's just about being a disingenuous cunt.
>>728961063>jrpgRetarded zoomzoom
>>728960776Yep. Because without imagination like this, games and stories that we've come to love would not exist. Devs are just people who could do this and made something of their own with it
>>729002632yeah we don't want fake frames in our games dumbass
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>>728960776I'm 30 married with kids and still do this, then again I'm the type of autist who's been on /cyoag/ for 10 years or so.
>>728987546>Now in 2025 they're mocking this nerdy idea.mocking? didn't OP just post bait as en excuse for an EO thread?
>>728960776Only actual retards don't do shit like this. Not being able to do shit like this is why "unreal slop" is a thing
>>728987546It's funny how the enbrownening of the Internet is measurable from little things like this.
>>729003849> then again I'm the type of autist who's been on /cyoag/ for 10 years or so.Thanks, you reminded me of a lot of old ones I liked saving. Are there any good modern ones?/v/ file limit is preventing me from posting a lot of the bigger ones.
>>729004575You are autistic.
I think imagining involvement and a story really helps. It is one of the main benefits of the blank slate character.It is the major downside of systems like Fallout 4 where the 'blank slate character' is two characters who, depending on your stat choices, may make no sense.
>>729005693Bethesda feels like an RP where the DM wants you to play their premade the way they wanted.>>729005556>You are autistic.Legitimately where do you think we are?
>>729005803Fallout 4 it definitely does.Even Fallout 3 where your premade is not a blank slate, you get the largest advantages of being a blank slate.If you fuck off and just pretend you don't care about your dad, you can still have fun. your character isn't an ex-soldier (who could have ones in all physical stats) or law school graduate (who could have ones in charisma and intelligence)
>>729005556Where_do_you_think_we_are.jpeg
>>729005803Pretending you do something the game does not acknowledge in any way means you are legit mentally ill.
>>729006414You are too low IQ to use the Internet let alone 4chan
this is such lazy, hack cop-out drivel. if the character is eating food with her bare hands then I better see that shit. don't tell me to use my imagination why am I playing a video game then? might as well imagine a better game
>>729006482My IQ is at least 2 standard deviations above yours.Now run along and keep pretending you're "role playing".
>>729006735That would put you at 1:10-100 million range in which case my answer is go fucking cure cancer or some shit instead of wasting time on 4chan
In every game that features a nameable silent protagonist I imagine it's always he's the same guy being stuck in an endless cycle of reincarnation. This started when I played SMT2 and gave the MC the same name as in SMT1. So then I kept using that name and kept continuing this meta story in my head that after the credits roll the main character always ends up dead and then has a new life in the next game I play. And he's never sure if his purpose is to save the worlds he visits or if that's just the backdrop to his neverending torture.
>>729006823In SMT that might actually be lore supported.
>>729006553The game provides the system (stats, encounters, dungeon layouts etc), you use your imagination for the rest. Not hard to understand.
Also whenever there's romance in a game I always imagine him getting especially sad. As he knows that no matter how much he loves someone, the love will ultimately fade as he drifts into the next world and loses most of his memories. Eventually only the pain of having lost another love remains with him being unable to even recall her face.
>>729007024Dragon Quest 3 is a pretty based game.
>>729006819I scored a 95/100 on my last IQ test, don't talk down to me.
>>729006823>>729007107That's grim.
>>728992342Your icon is a optical illusion
I made keion
>>729006823>>729007107Pro-tip: Play Nier, the first one.
>>728961295I used to create entire stories and adventures in my head as a kid. Characters, city names, etc usually while falling asleep. I don't do that anymore, and basically all I think about while falling asleep is fucking work stuff.
>>729007801Sadge.
>>728962047Holy shit dude, what is wrong with you. Or right with you? Maybe we're the ones with the problem.
>>729008043It was in this moment that anon realized the real autism is the friends we made up along the way.
My first Darkest Dungeon playthrough I had a Vestal with the Nymphomaniac trait that I kept for lulz until I fucked up the bandit lord event and had to abandon it. She was randomly selected to be the one left behind and "killed" but since she was a nympho I ended up picturing her offering her body to the bandits. This imaginary scenario was reinforced when I later got a random event where a couple of heroes come back from the dead, and she was one of them. They return with all gear and upgrades missing so once again I imagined her coming back naked and used. I didn't intend for that sort of intrusive thought to come while playing DD, wasn't even using mods, but that's how it went.
>>729008596Holy based.
Etrian with dating mechanics when?
>>729008818I mean, you pay quite a lot of money for inn accommodations, which I assume include lover beds.
>>729007613My first EO team were K-On! girls too.
>>729007613I also did K-on, but for my EO5 guild. Fencer Yui, masurao Azusa, dragoon Ritsu, shaman Tsumugi, and warlock Mio.
>>728961295>stop for a second after a certain part,holy zoomers and their attentions span
>>728962047Man, I dunno what happened in Takato's game, but you clearly made him the harem protag. He's got like 30+ pink lines directed at/around him.
>>729008818Witch and Lilies kind of?
