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I want to create a Dragon deck in Legacy of the Duelist because dragons are cool. Any tips?
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I want to create a baby with her
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That was around 2014 format or something right?
I remember Chaos dragons being pretty good
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Jesse at 50k
Josh at 30k
And they're both playing the same deck. I think it's clear who's the heaviest heavyweight champion
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>>728970606
I'm so fucking sick of browns it's not even funny
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yugioh is ass
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>>728971027
Too much ass
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>>728970932
I’m better than both of them combined
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>>728971294
Just like yugioh
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>>728970606
Check out Dragunities. The important cards are Legionnaire, Dux, Phalanx, Ravine, Gae Bulg, Vajrayana, Gae Daerg, Aklys, and Arma Mystletainn, plus your choice of Level 8 Synchros.
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>>728970606
Sex with dark magician girl
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>>728970606
I NEED to plant my seed in her
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Hi, just to continue in the same vein as OP (and not to hijack the thread from you, as I'm also interested) - can anyone also make some similar suggestions for Cyber Dragons in 2025?
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>>728971327
But are you fatter?
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we'll be GOONING with Dragoon in Duel Links, babe.
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For me, it's Ishizu.
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>>728973198
egyptian booty
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>>728971027
>>728971389
Good artist.
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>>728973198
It's funny how she's seemingly far more popular than the actual lead girl of the original series despite having been important for a single arc and then disappearing into the background.
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>>728973198
>tfw no beautiful exotic egyptian gf to play YGO with
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>>728973457
Shame he never drew them farting like his OCs
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>>728973198
>>728973845
Konami needs to go back and make an OG series tag force where I can tag duel with/impregnate Ishizu.
A shame the old school collection bombed and they'll never make a real Yugioh game again.
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>>728973712
Ishizu was important for one arc.
Anzu was important never.
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>>728970606
Fuse all the red eyes cards with the Albaz and Despia decks.
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>>728973957
I wonder why no one bought the collection of shitty gameboy games for 50 bucks
God I hate konami
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>>728975660
Anal
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>>728975660
what do her Egyptian farts taste like?
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I swear Dracotail has to be one of the most overrated decks I've been shilled so far, my winrate has tanked since I started playing it and people were doing such a huge deal about Faimena being a turn 0 play when the entire deck dies to Ash.
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>>728974224
Poketurd lost
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I wish Gravekeepers were still viable.
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>>728977420
retard
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>>728970606
>any tips
Get some dragons
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>>728977840
He looks like he takes his starter all the way to the elite 4 then goes to sit at the top of a mountain until new challengers brave enough to make the ascent come to face him.
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>>728970932
Jesse no lifes it and Josh treats it like a 9-5
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>>728977694
Good thing that my wife Ishizu never once played gravekeepers and instead had a deck that was so good it was tier zero.
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>>728977989
The only thing your wife did was job to Seto.
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>try out master duel
>try to make a decent deck
>every single other deck is literally just a OTK before i even get to draw either from spamming 20 trap cards or 20 different fusion/link summons
>sit there for 5 minutes to not even get a turn
modern yugioh is absolute fucking trash fuck everything after 5Ds, i want to have an orgy with DMG, ishizu, tea and alexis
tristan and jayden can watch
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>>728977840
>b-but...
Poketurd lost.
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>>728978145
>try to make a decent deck

It's funny that you didn't mention what deck you built.
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>>728978145
If you have no idea what you're supposed to do then yeah that'll happen about 99% of the time. Otherwise it'll only happen like 25% of the time.
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Grandmaster Rare (serialized cards)
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>>728979504
Cashing in on wizard's trend
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>>728979504
I hate bullshit like this.
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>>728979504
Release full art Dragonmaids, Labrynth and Evil Twin and then maybe I'll care.
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>>728979792
why?
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>>728979792
Yeah, but in the last few years the only sets that have sold have been the ones with extremely overpowered archetypes that blow every other deck out of the water, so if their options for turning a profit are either ruining the gameplay or making gaudy mega rare cards for collectors, I'll take the latter.
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>>728979913
Arbitrary limited prints with a number slapped on to induce fomo and inflate the value of cards
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>>728979578
Serialized cards were a thing long before Wizards
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>>728980016
>induce fomo
only a problem if you have bad spending habits
>inflate the value of cards
it makes it cheaper to buy lower rarities of the card
it's a win players that want to play with the cards, it's a win for collectors that want expensive shiny cardboard, and it's a win for sellers that can move product instead of it rotting on shelves
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>>728979504
This is bullshit. Maybe I wouldn't mind if it was like 1/100,000 copies, but fucking only 100!? I hate it when fans miss out because of stupid ass high rarity shit.
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>>728980208
ok poor
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>>728980242
Unless you're waving like $20k or $30k for a single card, you're not gonna have any luck trying to find a seller. Have fun trying to buy a playset for your favorite card.
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>>728980185
Ok thanks for sharing, konami cocksucker.
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>>728980185
I think you're trying to apply the Pokemon TCG logic into YGO which ultimately doesn't work. YGO buyers are not like Pokemon ones, because YGO buyers ultimately buy cards to use them in their decks because YGO buyers actually play the game, so now Konami is telling people that if they want this brand new super shiny high rarity full art card, they need to pretty much win the lottery to get a single copy of it, and we're talking about a company so jewish that this will most likely become a trend from here on.
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>>728980353
>>728980521
the set will print the card in Ultra Rare, Secret Rare, Prismatic Secret Rare, Overframe Ultra Rare, Overframe Secret Rare, and Grandmaster Rare
players aren't gonna need to shell out for a playset unless they're idiots (or overly rich) who feel the need to bling their cardboard
this is for the OCG, mind you. we don't know how the TCG will handle these rarities. Rarirty Collection 5 (TCG) will bring some Overframe reprints in both Ultra and Starlight Rare
>>728980357
>please don't post facts. only be mad!
no
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>>728980829
>this is for the OCG, mind you. we don't know how the TCG will handle these rarities
TCG will do 10 copies of Grandmaster Rare, short print everybody's favorite Overframe cards, and add a bunch of filler shit nobody asked for to make it even harder to pull
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>>728980829
Keep gargling that jap semen you pathetic shill
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Someone post a good lab decklist
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>>728977972
The difference in skill is still massive, and this has been obvious ever since the obese, acne-ridden ogre started his "career". I don't like him in the slightest, but jobshua is clearly the worse duelist.
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>>728980950
>1x cock
>2x searcher furniture
>3x Arianna
>3x Arias
>1x Lovely
>2x Lady
>Trap cards you dumb nigger
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>RANDORI WATCH OU-
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>>728980208
Why do you want the ones specifically with the serial numbers? Overframes come in both UR and starlight so the URs should be cheap as fuck, just get those
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>>728983562
How could you say you love X card if you don't own the highest rarity possible?
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>>728970606
She a card not your gf
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>>728980950
2x Dilator
3x Estrogen
2x Cheese Pizza
1x Rope
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>>728978145
Post decklist so people can give you advice or at least a more modern version of the deck/theme you wish to play
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>no charmer icons on master duel or anything related to the chronicles that was released last night
Why? It would actually get me to play for a few duels.
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>Enemy draws 3 Super Polys as their starting hand
Damn, what the heck am I supposed to do against that? Every time I try to build my board they keep using it to clear it.
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>>728985435
They will probably do that after the holidays when other episodes come out.
Theres still a few slots spaced out that imply more charmer support so they will probably reveal a new charmer card that has the respective charmer/familiar of the episode's focused on the art for each of the 3 episodes.

Also
>Fucks up the grandcircle immediately by fullsending
>Cant read (Ancient text)
>Prays to be the strongest
Why is Hiita like this?
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>>728985435
Because they're waiting for the Aussa episode. Trust the plan.
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>>728985784
>please no maxx c
>please no maxx c
>please no maxx c
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>>728985784
>Eria prays for sweets
And here I thought Aussa was suppose to be the pudgy one...

>>728985789
This episode had so many great Aussa moments. She was really cute and expressive. Her being easily scared is a cute trait. I want her to fall in my arms or drag me away whenever she gets scared! I can't wait for her actual episode!

>>728985938
>opponent resolved maxx c
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>>728986115
>penis goes where?
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Do these guys work? I always liked them even though I never played a Gradius game
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/B.E.S.
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>>728985435
>>728985784
>>728986115
They hint at the dark charmer yet? Everyone needs their oc self insert
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>>728986286
Dharc is not an oc self insert and isn't part of the original group. He's off with Lyna in whatever lore they have going.
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>>728980521
>because YGO buyers actually play the game
Every single Pokemon TCG event has had more players than YGO regionals, nationals, and YCS for the past several years.
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>>728986286
Not yet they got 3 confirmed episodes to go.
Who knows if they do a surprise reveal that lyna and dharc get 2 more episodes, if those two are just briefly shown at the final episode together because CHAOS pairing or they are just not mentioned at all because its focused on the elemental charmers and the chaos charmers were elsewhere.
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>>728986115
I was a bit surprised to see how they characterized Aussa. Almost like she's trying to give off the impression that she's more mature than she is. Or maybe it's just she's the most studious one she wears glasses! and is a bit embarrassed to not be able to read the book.
And I was surprised Eria was the one that could. Is it that she's more competent than she appears or does she have some link to the Nekroz tribe that means she has more experience with the Ancient Language? I don't know shit about DT lore.
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>>728986460
Magistus is getting episodes after Charmers, so no Lyna and Dharc
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>>728986258
Long story short: no.
They hadn't gotten any new cards in like 20 years and the cards were all awful even 20 years ago. They JUST got a few new cards which are OK. Metal Slave is quite good, but what you need to run to make it work makes it not at all worth playing. You can run some shitty machine deck with the aim of making Metal Slave work but it will be very shitty.
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But when is HER episode?
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>>728986514
I think they handled Aussa really perfectly. A cute serious bookworm with moments of sudden cute outbursts of expressions due to how dorky she is. I love it! As for Eria, I wasn't really surprised. I always found her to be the big sister of the group with how gentle she looks and her link monster's name. It makes sense for her to be competent. Hiita is exactly what I expected too. An energetic dumb (in a good way) tomboy. Wynn being the carefree quiet girl of the group makes sense.
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>>728986343
shoving his hand into pot of greed
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>>728986835
Oh shit. I never noticed Milla has one of those tufts of hair around her hips like all the other charmers do. She also has yellow arm cuffs on her left arm while Lyna has gray cuffs on her wrists. I wonder if there's any relation.
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>>728986835
Milla god retrain soon.
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>>728986514
The connections they have to other stories are the following.
>ALL spellbooks were made from the world the Magistus and Prophecy archetypes are from and ended up in other worlds.
>Wynn is from the Duel Terminal world and ended up in the charmers' world from some freak dimension portal likely caused by the D/D/D (Different Dimension Demons). Wynn is the little sister of Winda, the Gusto tribe's priestess. The Gusto tribe get killed by the Ghiski tribe, who are remnents of the Ice Barrier tribe after Trish broke free. People joke that Ghiski Ariel might be Eria's big sister and that Aussa and Adamancipators might be connected given how similar looking they each are, but thats unconfirmed headcanons, we dont know aussa, hitta or erias origins.
>Gagagigo eventually leaves Eria as it grows up and goes to war alongside Marauding Captain. a long story short it steadily becomes a beserk killing machine until the Captain can save it and calm it down.
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>>728986927
I expected Eria to be more of the dandere or kuuru type rather than a confident and nurturing babysitter type. At least as a kid.
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>>728987396
>Aussa and Adamancipators might be connected
I don't think that's the case. Admancipators came out waaay too late and I think this mark on Aussa's left wrist might relate to where she originates from. I'm hoping we get some clues or hints about her and Hiita's origins as well as maybe a confirmation that Eria does come from Ghiski.
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>>728986514
Body count
>Aussa: 9
>Eria: 267
>Hitta: 1
>Wynn: 17
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>>728987227
Dharc also has a cuff, but I assume those are mainly there to give an excuse for why they released later and are off on their own. They couldn't join the original charmers because they were locked up somewhere.
I don't think Milla was actually intended to be related to the charmers, they probably just reused some of the design concepts like Konami often does. I would like to see her linked to their story though. Like maybe she's the writer of the book they found or even just the obvious route of being Lyna's mom.
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>>728987708
That one body count from hitta?
Me
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>>728987751
>or even just the obvious route of being Lyna's mom.
I would actually really like that. It think it would be really cute.
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>>728987828
What did you do that got you killed by Hiita? Actually how are you even posting on here if you're dead? Does heaven have wifi?
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>>728970606
I'M SEETHING
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>burn event for xmas
hurray?
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>>728987396
>Wynn is from the Duel Terminal world and ended up in the charmers' world from some freak dimension portal likely caused by the D/D/D
Is there any evidence for that? I just assumed the entire Charmer lore was part of Duel Terminal setting but just isn't related to the main storyline.
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>>728987908
The graveyard has great wifi bro
Unlike the banish zone, especially face-down
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>>728988046
It's a fireworks event for New Year's. They nerfed burn compared to last year though.
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AND NOW......

EXODIA......

OBLITERATE!!!!!!!!!
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>>728988082
One of the Master Duel books states that Wynn left her world because she didn't like being tied to her family.
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>Play game
>Spent gems because I love Malice
>Malice gets raped because Konami hates fun
>Releases full power Draco-tail which is even more broken
>Ryzeal untouched and also douchery

Konami really wants me to quit this game. This and the awful hands and 90% Tails coin flip ratio (I've counted. I'm literally 13 heads to 67 tails today)
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>>728988082
Theres a trap card that has D/D lady teleported into a new world along with a bunch of monsters and one of them is Wynn. The charmers themselves arnt in duel terminals world because that shit is in a constant state of war
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>>728988224
You 100% deserve it get fucked and kys lmao
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>30 Seconds
>2026 LP
>UNDER-SR
0 innovation it's actually depressing
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>>728978145
Anon play something else, all the replies to you have long accepted OTK's and FTK's as a thing.
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>>728978087
>bitch can see the future
>still loses to Seto
the king was to much for a magic using pussy.
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>>728988565
You say this as if every battle card game hasnt had both of these.
The replies are just asking to see what the deck was so anon can have better games.
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>>728977325
What are they doing? Maining Retaliating C?
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>>728986641
A shame. Thank you for explaining anyway
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>>728988190
It says she "left for the outside world" not to another world.
>>728988284
Are you just thinking of Return from the Different Dimension having Archfiend Marmot? Premature Return has Gigobyte on it too I guess. I've always been skeptical on Eria's Gigobyte being the same one that becomes Giga Gagagigo though.
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>Still want a fully fleshed out Dungeon Dice Monsters
>Still want a Dragon Quest Monsters game with YGO monsters
>Have nor the money or interest to get into the card game properly
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lack of dmg in this thread is disappointing
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>>728979504
I've long since given up on physical cards so I hope these make it to master duel
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>>728988831
Sorry since Yugi beat Pegasus we will never be allowed dungeon dice monsters
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>>728989036
Overframe DMG will sell for a billion dollars and Konami knows it so that means new DMG support will release soon. Trust the plan.
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>>728970606
Man I fuckin love DMG
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>>728989036
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>>728989113
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>>728989147
Imagine if it actually made DM a playable meta deck.

They could do the same with the God Cards, I hope the era of worthless packfiller slop is over.
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>>728989227
The new card+the fusion goes a long way towards fixing the deck's engine. It just needs better payoff than Circle banish+maybe Dragoon.
You can do like, special Shining Sarc DMG, search Sarc, DMG contact fuses into the guy to search the overframe DM, overframe reveal Sarc to summon and search a spell/trap, activate Sarc, Sarc can then search an extender to make a rank 8 or 7 then uhhhhhhhhhh, activate Timaeus you searched off the overframe for Dragoon?

Not terribly impressive, but a lot better than what the deck can do right now.
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>>728988827
That's one way to call being DBZ energy blasted into another dimention by Sophia.
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>>728989785
Is this effect a soft or hard once per turn?
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>>728986514
Eria felt like a Stoner
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>>728989036
My DMG folder is dry as a desert oddly enough. Sorry.
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>>728989036
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>>728986514
>Nekroz tribe
>Competent
Anon...they come from the Ice Barriers and those idiots snapped defeat out of the jaws of victory and basically killed the planet...twice...
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DMG a shit.
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>>728990124
>>728990161
>dark pubes
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>>728990267
its a sign of fecundity
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Oh fuck is that my boy, the Dice Rally staple Bettan Bat?
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>>728990267
Dark (pube) Magician Girl. Duh.
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>>728988082
Woke went back in time to infect Wynn.
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>>728990978
Granny Wynn.
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>>728991002
Manface tranny Wynn for "the modern audience" *
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>>728990978
Cataclysmics are not canon. I do not accept their existence. Because they are ugly.
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>>728977325
Dracotail is far from unstoppable but it's a lot more resilient than any rogue deck or (pure) Apophis. Even Ret C won't necessarily stop it.
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But you still take the damage.
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I just wanna play BEWD.
gimme the new bewd card.
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>>728992000
what are some more cards like this?
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>>728991889
that's my favorite line from 5Ds
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>>728977325
Dracotail can't beat itself, same problem as Snake-Eyes. But you crush a fair decks like no people's business. The deck is oppressive as fuck unless you're not going first with Maliss or Mitsu Ryzeal.
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Hey uh Krapnami you have a typo in your event schedule. It says Hu-li has an alt art but it's not even in the game
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Torion.
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>>728977325
Have you ever considered that you're piloting the deck poorly and you are losing because of your own mistakes and not the deck itself?
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>>728992328
More alt arts? Is Konami trying to bleed whales dry?
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>>728992328
>still no charmer alts
>not even to celebrate their first chronicles episode
FUCK MASTER DUEL!
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>>728992743
Also Ohime's alt isn't that good
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Even when Yubel was meta, I never believed it needed hits aside from Apollousa (who could be outed anyway). Now Yubel feels so quaint to go up against.
It's also cringe that the tubers have migrated their message to "no deck is worth playing if it can be beaten when going first".
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>>728992328
I was gonna say shopped, but no its actually misaligned like that
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>>728992000
Weird how no one has made an Impregnation card
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>>728973198
need chocolate wife

btw have i ever mentioned that nephthys is my favorite archetype?
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>>728992853
So weird they made the good ritual six dragon balls and not the nine star one.
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>>728987396
>Gagagigo eventually leaves Eria as it grows up and goes to war alongside Marauding Captain. a long story short it steadily becomes a beserk killing machine until the Captain can save it and calm it down.
I think Eria's Gigobyte and Gagagigo are just two members of the same species.
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>>728993294
>>728992648
>>728990263
I really need to jerk one out
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Why did Konami not ban Apollousa for 2+ years but ban Baronne and Savage instead
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YGO hasn't been worth anything for at least a decade. Neither has the rest of Konami.
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>>728993294
isnt she a 10000 year old hag?
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Is the Bystial engine considered "low to the ground"?
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I prefer fish meat
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>>728996205
Forgot pic like a dumbass
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>>728996176
>they only one that plus is Magnamhut
>only target Light/Dark
>rarely used as ED material
Yes
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>>728980171
In dogshit sports trading cards that only exist to milk dudebros
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Why can I ash myself?
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>>728996995
Saronir is also a plus, and has the potential to be better than Magnamhut depending on what later support brings
At least, if you pitch Saronir, you can access Magnamhut if you add Lubellion to hand.
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>>728997690
Because sometimes negating your own effects has uses.
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Is there a game where I can make a deck around this dude? He just looks cool
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>>728981513
>this has been obvious ever since the obese, acne-ridden ogre
I can't tell which one you're describing
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Haven't seen a single Orcust entire DC 2nd stage
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>>728998458
And that's a good thing
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>>728998364
Only in MD sadly
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I watched some of my old DC duels from 2023 and 2024.
Even on a bad deck like Thunder Dragon, you were hitting nonengine more consistently because you could resolve cards like Allure of Darkness. Against Tears and Kashtira I would activate x2 evenly pretty consistently because you could dig for it. And despite what others say evenly is pretty good into Maxx "C" provided you can pay on both turns.
But now you can't dare run a card like Allure or Pot of Avarice because you risk Ash or worse, Droll.
Says a lot that I haven't seen any Tenpai this DC either despite it being a staple in bo1 tournaments. Tenpai is so inconsistent it needs to resolve the striker cards to dig for the Tenpai shit, if it can't it loses instantly.
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>>728998458
I have. Mostly just Mitsurugi shit and Dracotail over and over though. Endless Mitsurugi. With Onomat. Ryzeal. Sometimes Fiendsmith. Endless fucking Mitsurugi and Dracotail. The game has a major variety problem.
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>new Predaplants
yuribros we won
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>>728999458
I just met an Orcust Mitsurugi deck. Incredible. Sasuga, Konami-san.
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>>728999575
You've alerted the horde
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The almighty dracotail.
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>>728999735
good
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>ash to 2
NOOOOOOO
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>chinkchong stun player that goes first opens fossil dyna
sure
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>>729000002
So? Just imperm
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>>728986115
Now animated!
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>>729000264
The next episode: onomat chink chank chong player draws retaliating c for turn twice in a row despite me not feeding a single draw to both his maxx c.
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>>728986927
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WAKE UP MAXX C IS GETTING BANNED SOON
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>>729000808
Jesus what a nuclear banlist
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>>729000808
>no droll hits
-1 maxx c
-1 ash
-1 cbtg
+3 droll
Nice fucking game konami
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>>729000808
>fuck bagooska
>fuck moon
>fuck slop mage
>fuck red ransom
>fuck maxx c
>fuck ash
>fuck cbtg
>fuck yummy
>fuck dracotail
>fuck mitsurugi
>fuck maxx c again
YUGIOH... IS SAVED
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>>729000573
Doesn't Wynn gets brutally fucked later in the story?
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>>729001195
Her sister Winda does.
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>>729001195
get*
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>>729000808
For clarity (OCG)
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>>729001195
Hot.
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>>729001428
>metamorphosis
any potential for abuse or too slow in current meta?
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I wanna know how Voiceless Voice deals with this shit because I run continuous spells and Dracotail just destroys me.
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>>728988831
For me it is/was the capsule game there is potential in it especially when they turn it into an RPG with a map, imagine traversing it with your favourite waifu card ...vgh
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>>729001629
Unless you're TTTalenting it with gen or mimighoul you can't realiably access it so it will never be abusable as a one of. If I had to guess this is the type of card you run because it's incredibly low investment with a high ceiling and your deck has extra deck flex spots.
The first thing that comes to mind: mitsurugi draws a million cards and shits 8s like nobodies business. How about slapping a free dragoon for free at the end of your combo? That can't hurt. And it tributes the monster too!
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>>728988831
The card game is kind of shit these days anyway -- all the more so if you're a fan of the manga and are wanting the classic monsters. If it weren't for the card frames the game would be almost unrecognizable.
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>>729000808
I think Roach at 1 is a good place. I don't mind playing against it every once in a while. But it doesn't discourage combo decks from being run AT ALL.
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>>729001428
You have to ban every single card after tears meta for the game to be good again
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>>729002142
Naturia beast for k9 sounds good too
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>>729002305
Metamorphosis only brings out fusions so the closest you're getting is exterio for a 10.
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>>729001428
Why Mululu?
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The game needs to return to Edison.
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Metamorphosis is incredibly mid now that Konami gave us that HERO monster that's literally Fusion + anything
Might as well unban Norden
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>release dominus cards to eventually phase out ash
>hit both ash and dominus
I don't get it, this shit doesn't really fix the game at all
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>>729002753
The goal isn't to fix the game, it's to get people to buy new cards. I wonder what they have planned if they're finally hitting Maxx "C" to promote it.
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What's the new banlist?
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>>729002384
Labubu bubble bursted
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>>729002142
By "free dragoon" you actually mean -1 card from the hand for the Metamorphosis you draw, and then another -1 for the Dragoon's negate cost. So 2 cards invested in one negate. And the Metamorphosis itself is a worthless brick if you don't manage to pull off your combo. Meanwhile you could've just ran a hand trap in its spot in your deck and guaranteed that when you drew that card it was an extra interruption, even when going second.

Metamorphosis has some strong enough payoffs that it might be played but since it doesn't require bricks, but it's not the sort of card that's as reliable as people want in modern decks.
Compare it to Duality or Shadow's Light. Both very similar cards but light/dark locked and with some additional bonuses. People expected those cards to be broken but now their existence is a piece of trivia.
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Roach at 1 is the funniest option because it will make people more mad when it resolves and the people who bitch about it nonstop will just be mad it's not banned. They should bring that change to MD. Then put it back at 2 a couple months later.
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>>729000808
>metamorph
being able to turn any lvl4 into this could potentially be a problem
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>>728970606
Wasn't legacy 2017. So early dragon link or maids.
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>>729000808
Holy based!
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>charmer pandering
>STILL don't make any actually good cards for them
might as well just do a Mapiss series since at least those cards sell and are usable
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Crazy they brought back Toad while Spright Jet and Spright Starter are still at 2.
I am running Spright in the DC and can't get above 6000 PT.
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>>729006709
That's a synchro monster.
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Added "search", but the regex with card names is driving me nuts.
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>>729006863
oh yeah i forgot that metamorph only can summon fusions unlike duality
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I was once the strongest card in the entire Yu-Gi-Oh mediaverse..............
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>>729006592
Pure mitsurugi has to discard for hand size at the end of the turn and runs around 15 starters.
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>>729000808
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How are decks beating Dracotail? I've only managed to win via huge card advantage or cheating. Like Vanquish Soul the deck is very hard to interact with.
This is one of the worst DC's I can remember. At least with Maliss you ran Lancea and won off that.
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>>729001428
Yes... hahaha... YES...
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>>729007724
>>729007724
Hard draw red reboot. You can also save ash/belle for the traps
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>>729007724
Red Reboot.
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>>729007889
I'm glad everyone and their grandma is main decking red reboot, now it's finally going to get banned.
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>>729007724
Retaliating "C", Red Reboot and Ash Blossom hits half of their deck, including the traps.
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>>729008000
Should go to 6.
Hang all Labtrannies.
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>>729008050
Having a rough time after the Ash limit announcement, uh? Don't worry, it's eventually going to 0.
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>>729008050
I play Man motherfucker
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>>729008128
>Ash limit announcement
What?
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>>729008159
New OCG banlist.
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>>729001428
Maxx "C" to 3
Ash Blossom to 0.

Fixed your shit game for you.
Don't have to take 10 years to figure this out.
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>>728973712
Anzu still has way more hits on the booru. I think unironically Tearlaments Ishizu really boosted her popularity.
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>>729008284
Didn't even notice Ash in there.

Anyway: Ash to 0, right after hanging all Labtrannies.
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>>729008305
Both to 0. All pots to 3. Take it or leave it.
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>>729000523
>>729000573
You got a gif of Wynn being excited
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>>729008050
>>729008371
What deck do you play that gets fucked by lab so hard?
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>>729007724
no you don't get it bro it's the best thing that happened to the game just ignore the infinite plussing and every replacing itself it's perfectly fair deck otherwise
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>>729008371
>so mindbroken his raped brain tried to ignore the ash limit
OH NO NO NO
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>>729008497
>gets fucked
Not about that.

Handripping, floodgating, and having a third of the game's card as support, are all dishonest.
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>>729007724
All the top players are using Ghost Belle
If hits lazy players who set their prompts to Auto and hits every trap. Also hits GWC.
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>it's another episode of labtranny getting defensive and having a melty
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>>729008639
>he started giving indirect buckbroken (You)'s already
KEK, keep the concession btw.
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just one more push
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>>729008572
Funny hating lab for handripping when mermail is a thing
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>>729008837
>whatabout
that's a consneed by you
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>>729008572
Funny hating lab for d barriering when most decks can basically skip your turn . heck onomat ryzeal literally does
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>>729008837
The Raped doesn't care about other, better rapists, just their first, original rapist. The obsession will perdure until the very end.
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>>729008906
I just don't feel the lab hate is genuine when there are decks that do much worse than that
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>>729008497
He doesn't play, he's just here to seethe about waifus.
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damn that >>729008807 really worked
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first
>is TCG worth playing since "THAT BANLIST". that thing nuked all of my playable decks and it got me pissed off as fuck because I barely played in my locals before getting KEKED

second
>How can Konami balance single player yugioh games? It genuinely just feels like pray or grind really easy opponents and then get the broken early game archetype (blackwings/lightsworn) and sweep the rest of the fucking game
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She is so cool, bros.
It's a shame only other Yugioh toys are ridiculously overpriced figmas instead of based, affordable model kits.
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alright.. feeling like playing some yugioh but don't want to deal with duel links with the solitaire 1TKO bullshit. have they made any good recent singleplayer games lately?
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>>729009114
fix her neck
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>>729009114
Take a photo of her underskirt. NOW.
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>>729008639
Not being able to beat Lab in 2025 is crazy.
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>>729009091
also does anyone have any fun "slop" builds? I miss mid game Master Duel where it's just adventure slop with everything. Just love decks with shit that can't really fit together but does so by pure autism
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>>728986514
My immediate impression is:
>Hiita is a hot head.
>Wynn is kind.
>Aussa is a dork.
>Eria is the practical one.
Aussa surprised me the most, but it's far from a bad characterization.
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>>729009213
This ragebaits squizos
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>>729008586
>lazy players who set their prompts to Auto
I'm curious what percent of players at each tier have never changed their trigger order settings from the default.
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>>729009365
The current best sloptions are Mitsurugi, Fiendsmith, and Millennium, so just choose some archetype and throw those in it. Or just throw them all together and don't bother with anything else. Hell, throw Adventure in there too while you're at it if you want. It's not like they need your normal summon.
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>>729009151
It feels like i messed up but at the same time i can't push it down any more. I don't want to literally break her neck. I followed the instruction like with all my other model kits and this is how it is, unless i'm missing something?
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>moon banned in both paper formats
What does that mean for MD
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>>729010131
It means she's guaranteed to get banned, any day now just like Verte, Elf, and Kitkallos. Tick tock fiendsloppers!.
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>>729008525
It's amazing how many people actually think that lmao
For fuck sake board isn't everything
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Banning ash is a mistake the problem is decks now are too strong a well placed ash does nothing and the only way to win going second is opening with floodtrap handtraps which is just as uninteresting as getting maxx c’d
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>>729009961
>cut the ball off
>sand the post down
>glue the ball back
>???????
>PROFIT
An honorable nihonese would have known to do this the second he laid eyes on that piece.
the neck looks fine, don't bother
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>>729010260
>decks now are too strong a well placed ash does nothing
So how is "Banning ash is a mistake"?
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>>729010197
I don't think any of these are getting banned.
Well, maybe verte has a chance of getting banned because of Dracotail. Elf is here in place of toad. And Kitkallos is here in place of like 10 different cards.
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>people claim yugioh is better now
>now instead of instant win of turn 1, it's just "lol I play my instantly win when I go 2nd card"
dude this is the same thing but even more wanker. now any decks that could setup turn 1 just can't play anymore. how is this any better?
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>>729010401
Because they need to start banning main deck cards that have 3 effects and rethink the power ceiling of the game and not ash
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>>729010519
>they need to start banning main deck cards that have 3 effects and rethink the power ceiling of the game
None of this has anything to do with Ash.
Your logic does not follow.
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>>729010421
A lot of people need yugioh to survive
gaytubers, card sellers and etc
So they need to make people think that the format is better
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>>728970606
D link or dragon rulers.
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>>728970932
Josh is such an annoying faggot even the troon is less annoying
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>>729010623
typhoon is such a fucker card to ever be created. who's idea is this
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>>729010773
WHY DOES HE KEEP YELLING
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>>728995089
Lmao no. Shes just under 20 i believe
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>>729010597
Yes it does. Ash is a reasonable hand trap that lets people have fun back and forth. It going away means people are going to play more floodgate hand traps like lancea droll shifter that make games uninteresting when they resolve.
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>>729009961
>"Who are you callin pinhead?"
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>>728996247
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>>729010421
If your deck cant win going first against the established boardbreakers, your deck is just simply too weak or old.
Power disparity and the boards outscaling the 2000 era lifepoints will always be the issue.
The game is still fun when two closely matched decks face each other, but the current issues alongside the forced maxxc minigame make nongame blowouts occur too ofen.
Designing balance around nuclear staples just leads to it becoming the latest "bolt" check for ygo.

You have to make sure a new deck doesnt
-die to ash/singularnegate
-die to niburu
-die to lava golem/superpoly/whitewomanjumpscare
-die to redreboot
To be playable at all
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>>729011043
yugioh is all about sandbagging. that's why everything resorts to OTK. this meme about interaction is just false.
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>>729010960
>Ash is a reasonable hand trap
It never was. It always shut down weaker decks.
How are you talking about "rethinking the power ceiling" while sidestepping this fact?
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>>729010421
Yu-Gi-Oh had the potential to be good, but post Maliss and Ryzeal I'm skeptical it can ever get there.
The entire Yubel/Snake-Eyes era was defined by Apollousa. Had you banned Apo those 2 years might have been dare I say fun.
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>>728992328
Fake. Cant even get it in line with the rest
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>>729011043
>If your deck cant win going first against the established boardbreakers, your deck is just simply too weak or old.
This is somewhat true. Outside of events, MD has never had a meta where playing board breakers was better than playing hand traps. Sometimes Droplet matches well into a certain meta deck, or Duster or whatever, but just giving up hand traps to run all board breakers has always been a gimmicky playstyle.

There are decks that are strong enough to compete vs the meta but have a really bad matchup into board breakers. But that's fine. Because 90% of players do not touch board breakers because the top decks don't give a shit about them.
But if you choose to play those decks then you do have to accept that some games are just lost to a random Raigeki, just like the guy who plays a deck with no plan for Maxx C has to accept that he chose that fate.
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>>729011183
You used to be able to run some go second cards and salvage a game when your opponent makes pseudo-FTK vs you.
Now, you try to run duster vs Dracotail, they negate it and draw a card. Fucking what
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>>729010960
Ash has never been reasonable
Outside of called and crossout, which counter most handtraps, it has no interactivity at all. Every ash use is just a knowledge check on where the chokepoint to effectively floodgate your opponent is, or to save for maxxc. Because of this, ash was just a power test- ethier your deck has an ash chokepoint and now your game is a nonfactor, or doesnt and their ash is a nonfactor.

Effect veiler was a far more interactive handtrap due to requiring targeting.
I would say imperm, but set imperm cucks pendulum as an entire type too hard
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I don't really get how we've had years and years of
>Ash does NOTHING against the meta decks and only shuts down my SOULFUL pet deck!!!!!!!!
And somehow that's supposed to have remained true as if something like Spright was completely immune to Ash but now that it's fallen out of the meta it suddenly gained a new weakness to Ash. There are plenty of off-meta decks that can handle hand traps well. I've been playing pure PUNK and am often hoping my opponent handrips themselves with a hand trap so I can make easier use of my extenders.
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>>729011489
>MD has never had a meta where playing board breakers was better than playing hand traps
Yeah it did, the November DC in 2023 were the top decks were Purrely, Kashtira, and Mathmech.
Purrely had no omni negates. Neither did Kashtira. Kaijus and Evenly were a good gameplan.
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>>729011708
Kash meta was crazy the only time people would willingly not activate shangri ira and everyone running 3 talents tactics and evenly
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>>729011664
nobody would call spright a soulful petdeck thoughbeit
why are metafags so completely out of touch with what the midcore player wants
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>>729011497
Thats not new, those decks before had enough draw to sometimes get solemns that protect backrow.
Red reboot is the current 2nd staple against Dracotail.
Or denko if shes not forbidden and your deck doesnt rely on spells/traps and normal summons until cleared.
The irony is the dracotraps going plus makes ash relevant again because she can negate the traps entirely
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>>729011708
Eh, Kaijus were played some during peak Purrely meta but the vast majority of players still stuck with hand traps to stop them from reaching their endboard. Same with Kash meta. Kash folds really hard to a ton of breakers like Talents but there still enough other decks around that everyone stayed on hand traps.
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>except the turn this card was sent to the GY

A:
>(excl. engrave turn)
B:
>(excl. bury turn)
?
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>>729011902
>nobody would call spright a soulful petdeck
No, it usually gets called a worthless shitdeck. There are plenty of decks that have never been meta that have been released/supported since Spright that are on its level.
>thoughbeit
post discarded
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>>729011664
>And somehow that's supposed to have remained true as if something like Spright was completely immune to Ash but now that it's fallen out of the meta it suddenly gained a new weakness to Ash.
I play Spright.
>2022
>You: Open 3 engine, 2 nonengine
>Opponent: Open 4 engine, Ash
>2025
>You: Open 2 engine, 3 nonengine
>Opponent: Open 1 engine, 4 nonengine
The difference is the ratios. In 2022 Spright rarely had to worry about 2, let alone 3 handtraps, or even floodgate handtrps like droll, retaliating, shifter. Decks needed bigger engines to function so by default they couldn't run 50% handtraps.
Now, Spright cannot play through all that disruption while also making a board that resists breakers and can stop the opponent. My spright engine is 1 blue, 2 jet, 1 carrot, 2 starter. You have to expect to play through 2 handtraps per turn and you barely have enough cards to stop 1 breaker.
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>fag and tranny powers combine
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>>729000808
Holy fuck
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>>728970606
Play Dragon Link with the Rocket Dragons.
Its the best Deck in MR5 Format with the Cardpool of Legacy of the Duelist.
Its Combo heavy tho, you might get bored of it.
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>>729012010
Handtrap count inflation has been greatly overstated. I just grabbed the first M1 Spright deck on MDM and the first 1st place DT list. The Spright deck has 1 more hand trap.
To be clear, I'm not claiming Spright is secretly top tier, or that it doesn't have its own struggles in current metas, but it's not really true that the best decks are suddenly drawing way more hand traps than they used to. It's true of more rogue decks, sure so it can't bully those like it used to.
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>>729008451
There you go.
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>"AAAAIIIIIIIEEEE I'M FORCED TO PLAY A HANDBRAP PACKAGE"
>Konami hits them
>"AAAAAAIIIIIIEEEEE WHY DID YOU HIT MY HANDBRAP PACKAGE"
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>>729013079
Surely they also hit the stuff that was forcing you to run the handtrap package right?
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>>729010247
Yugioh players are not an intelligent lot.
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>>729012981
>just noticed I had one extra frame in it
Fixed.
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This is racist.
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>>729013145
Don't be anti-semetic.
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>>729012538
I got to Master 2 with Bystial Spright in November, winning is as easy as going 1st five times in a row and not getting disrupted.
That deck list you posted cannot go second at all and its turn 1 board is weak. Its OTK plan is Mosquito which is a horrible card. Notice it's not running Smashers or SGB, which can be bricks but are also how you win going second. The endboard is going to be incredibly weak, bro isn't even running Rabbit.
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>>729011964
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>>729014072
nobody cares about your ai mod pajeet
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>>729014240
>still irrationally seething after 6 months
You're pathetic.
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I actually liked the nudies. Too bad bro was a little too autistic.
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Mambo.
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I wanna roll with the gangstas
But so far they catch me ridin' dirty
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Thoughts on gridlock format?
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>>729015956
my sleep deprived mind thought that said "Thoughts on girlcock format"
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>>729015815
they se me linkin'
they hatin'
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>>729015664
I recently found out her real name isn't Mambo... very sad day
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>>729000723
Awww, they're praying for me.
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>>729016230
There's A LOT of lesbian rape in the banlist prision. I wonder why?
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>>729012147
DECK LIST NOW
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>>729006836
Konami isn't willing to redesign the archetype into what it needs to be to be both playable and cohesive with the original design philosophy (that is to say, make it a going second deck that combos into a flexible toolbox extra deck filled with monster snatching girls)
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>>729013145
Not really, no. They did their usual half-measure slapfest-hit the obvious stuff that made headlines, like the 12-handtrap piles and Ishizu mill shenanigans, then left the degeneracy enablers untouched so the format still feels like you’re playing against Solitaire with interruptions. Classic "address the symptom, ignore the disease" Konami move.
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>>729017831
Fuck that. All they need to do is just make each charmer a mini engine you can slap into almost anything of that tribute. Take the idea behind the only Charmers who ever saw competitive play (the links) and ran with that.
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>>729000808
>>729001428
>Ryzeal still being buttfucked despite doing fucking nothing
Kill John Konami
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>>729018062
I mean that's a solution, of course, but Konami (or whatever waifufag at Konami keeps trying to make Charmers a thing) is clearly interested in making the entire group into a cohesive archetype and that's how you'd accomplish it without just making them a subpar combo into your omni-negate boss slop archetype.
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>>729000808
Did OCG finally got tired of maxx C bullshit?
Hopefully this comes to master duel too
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>>729006592
Based retard
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>>729007724
>or cheating
H-how
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>>729018250
>whatever waifufag at Konami keeps trying to make Charmers a thing
It's the other way around, the Charmers have earned their reputation and love from the fans. But I bet the same high executive that's been pushing Raye and screwing the Witchcrafters is screwing them too because they are stealing Raye's thunder.
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>>729018412
Everything there is true. Dragoon isn't very impressive, and win-more extenders that only work when you already have combo suck.
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>>729018209
Ryzeal enables utopia and that cant be allowed.
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>>729018704
That's the worst part, Ryzeal is no longer a deck, it's a shit engine at best.
>enables utopia
That's the worst part, you almost never wanna play Onomat/Utopia with Ryzeal because Ryzeal monsters lock you into R4nk, and Onomat/Utopia wants to special other ranks.
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>>729009135
>have they made any good recent singleplayer games lately?
You know they haven't
>duel links
LOUL!
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>>729010421
Who are you quoting?
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Lab player here and I can't tell if I should put SEC in my deck. on one hand it's really powerful, on another hand I DONT FUCKING GET IT and Labs is suppose to be my "simple deck"
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>>729011664
>See this specific case that doesn't comply with being mentioned?
>Yeah let's imply that every other shitdeck is like that ok?!??
What is the exception that proves the rule, faggot? Are you retarded?
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>>729019351
You do actually need to figure out how it works to use it. But also it's not fantastic in this meta because Maliss is still common and has no high levels. Just tell yourself that you value the Chaos Angel into Muckraker play too much to run it.
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>>729014292
Oh pojeeeet, better not throw a fitty again. Don't make me post the threadly reminder ;)
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>>729019529
Sub-rogue decks haven't reliably lost to Ash in like a couple years now. There are dozens of decks almost nobody plays with good extension through Ash Blossom.
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>>729019541
what should I play instead? I had it used on me once and that made me seethe so hard. I need some cool lab tech.
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>>729018550
It's funny that you think Konami cares about what the fans want.
I'm not dissing the exec's tastes, by the way, I think he's based for pushing Charmers, but there's clearly SOMEONE at Konami that likes them enough to push them despite not being the most popular characters (see: lost to Shaddolls and Sacred Beasts for the structure deck popularity vote)
Speaking of it's a massive shame they haven't done a vote like that since 2020. Granted I doubt we'd get any really interesting winner.
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>>729013168
Thanks its perfect
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It didn't deserve it.
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>>729019808
> There are dozens of decks almost nobody plays with good extension
Most of those decks aren't running enough extenders because they need >50% nonengine to not get blown out going second.
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>>729019997
Stun shit decks don't need the buff.
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>>729019947
Depends on your build and what you want to do. You could be maxing out on furniture alongside a couple good discards or you could be running triple Impulse with 1-2 Songs or you could add back Nadir now that it's at 3 again, or you could run mostly traps and throw in some counter traps and floodgates or Trap Trick the world is your oyster.
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Post archetypes that deserve modern support.
It has been 14 years since Konami last printed Worm support.
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>>729020335
I just think they're cute.
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>>729006836
Why do you think spiritual familiar and resonance isnt good for them?

At minimun familiar by itself is fiendsmithcombo+ichirin+charmer.
Not to mention resonance being 5 monsters or 3 searches minimun with scapeghost or prophecy.
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>>729019351
You should first know how to use it and how it works. There are many bids on YouTube, I used this niggy's guide and quick chart:
https://youtu.be/GODdZ4Vz-WM?si=z32nw29FH1WxZcGT
>and I can't tell if I should put SEC in my deck
The answer to that is probably not. The format is not the best for SEC, most boards don't result in SEC working, there's a lot of spell/trap hate rn and gimmicky cards don't work all that well, plus the fact that there's a lot of special summoning/destruction during either player's turn, so SEC is even less reliable.
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>>729020335
My snake wife.
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>>729020335
I like worms but I don't think there's any way to save them except ditching everything and reprinting the entire A-Z worms with new crazy effects
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>>729009091
Which banlist?
The Razen genocide?
Nah, Mitsurugi and Yummy have made locals unbearable
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what's up with talents
I thought with dracotail there would be talents spam everywhere, but I rarely see it
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>>729009114
I had a lot of fun with the Millenium Puzzle model kit
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>>729019997
The Genesys blogpost revealing that PoG could just as easily have gone to 3 back then instead of being banned in advanced were pretty eye opening.
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>>728977131
dates
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>>729020839
VERY true.
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>>729020256
i want pure uber fuck you like I did when people were running virus and virus wasn't easily dodgable hahaha
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>>729011523
>Pendfag with absolutely abhorrent opinions
The most basic combo
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>>729021024
Then just run floodgates and solemns. You can even cut the Lab cards for Barrier Statues while you're at it.
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>>729020603
I've been a massive Vennominaga stan for over a decade, it's such a shame that even in the modern game where she's easier to summon than ever (if you can get Vennominon on the field, something that's very easy to do, Trap Tracks is literally a one card setup that both searches and instantly allows you to activate Rise of the Snake Deity), there just isn't a modern reptile deck that can effectively slot her in.
I'd even just settle for Reptilliane support that makes them playable in the modern game outside of gimmicky A-counter lock builds, Melusine is also a qt snake wife.

>>729020660
It might be possible, but it'd require the following:
>Something you can reliably go into that allows you to flip Worms on your opponent's turn, mostly just because Yagan, Victory and Apocalypse would genuinely be good interruption if they could do that.
>Something that lets you cheat out a beefy Zero and lets you use the effects as Quick Effects (plus protection if you really want to go crazy), even by modern standards Zero genuinely has some fantastic effects that are only held back by how obnoxious it is to bring out and how easy it is to remove.
>Actual combo routes and flooding of field and gy to facilitate the above.
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>>729019997
A card that let's you draw 3 additional cards from your deck with no cost is too good for any deck. It had to be done.
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>>729020335
Sorry bro, Terminal World 4's Light slot is reserved for Vylon support. Maybe in 5.
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>>729020660
>>729021160
Actually, thinking about it, something they could do if they wanted to "cheat" giving worms a viable playstyle without actually printing new Worms would be to turn W Nebula into a support "archetype" of spells and traps designed to modernize the deck. W Nebula Meteorite is already the most stacked card in the deck, so might as well continue that trend.

>>729021347
It's upsetting that you're probably right.
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>>729021347
And that''s a good thing.
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>>728970932
Josh at 50k now.
Apologize to your Führer
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>>729021049
I know you are a shitter who gets spooked by the boogyman type that has the least competitive wins of them all prenerf but name me any actual interactivity that ash provides that other handtraps dont.
It is just an effect that says NO to the most basic engine in the game to the point every deck now has to have retarded gimmicks to ignore it.
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>>729019616
Go to sleep, prudejeet, it's your bedtime.
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>>729021098
but what floodgates are even there anymore
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>>729022150
I don't think about pends at all until "people" like you bring it up, and Konami doesn't either
You champion a complete non-factor of the game out of pure contrarianism, may as well try and force geminis or unions while you're at it
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>>729022312
>prudejeet
LMAOOO. Doesn't it hurt to insult yourself and your own people?
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>>729021160
It's a two-sided problem, if you summon her too fast then she will have no attack whatsoever because there's no reptiles in grave aside from Vennominon, making it so anything will be able to attack over her.
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>still mindraped from seeing a nipple 6 months ago
Will he ever acquire self-awareness and get over it?
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>>729022679
I'll have you know that I have never seen a nipple in my entire life.
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>>729022773
clanker
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>>728999965
Source??
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>>729022416
You are so spooked by pends that you defend floodgate, claiming that you dont think about them when your first reaction upon seeing the word pend was to assume the person mains them.
im just pointing out imperm isnt the most interactive of handtraps compared to EV because of this niche situation where it singlehandedly prevents an entire card type from functioning
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>>729022548
Yeah, the catch 22 of "fast snek" vs "big snek" has always been an issue that's plagued Vennominaga, but there's something even deeper and more fundamental that holds her back.
The unfortunate fact of the matter is (and this has been a fundamental design flaw in Vennominaga since her conception) that she doesn't actually do anything. She exists as this big body, but outside of slowly attacking into defense position monsters trying to clear the board to win the game, she can't actually advance your win state without outside support. You can somewhat circumvent this by going into Pentestag and giving yourself the ability to actually dent the opponent, but that's still ignoring the issue that Vennominaga is a card that you're putting a lot of effort into summoning just to get a big beat stick that just sits there passively during the opponent's turn does nothing to actually generate advantage in the form of removal, negation or floodgating in a manner that actually inhibits your opponent's ability to play around her. This is especially bad in a world where any deck can just splash in Underworld Goddess of the Closed World to instantly eat any Vennominaga.
Also exclusively a TCG issue (oh wow TCG nerfing the hell out of bad decks because they hate you who could have seen that coming) but King of the Feral Imps being banned is obviously a massive blow against all Reptile strategies.
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>>729011523
>Nigger is so brain busted by the cute loli ghost that he thinks "control" and "floodgate" are the same thing.
LMAO
>but set imperm cucks pendulum as an entire type too hard
Good, Penducucks deserve to suffer.



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