>>728984318
It's literally because they're broke third worlders who can't afford it and there's no emulator.

ok tendie, now go back to your daily famitsu sales threads.

the internet is a constant psyop by jealous people and competing businesses

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>>728984318
I from at brazil and i owns a switch2 console
i only has two game. not more to play. plays fortinite now.
fun

Outside Japan (normal salary man) It's the gaming platform of choice of american soiboys...that's a failure enough

>>728984764
Thank you for proving OPs point, faggot. Now quit wasting money on gay shota porn so you can save up to be an enlightened Switch 2 enjoyer.

Where are the games?

>>728984959
this picture is older than half the user base

>>728984318
Please twist it into a huge success then. I'll wait.

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>Fastest selling console ever!
>Selling worse on it's first Christmas than Switch 1 was last year.

>>728985886
Wow it's almost like the American economy has gone to complete shit since last year.

The anti-Switch 2 sentiment is so artifical and forces. It's literally one or two deranged snoys forcing it.

>>728986020
Yeah well, kinda puts a damper on that record breaking plan, huh?

>>728984318
It IS a failure. The way tendies try to pretend it isn't is pathetic.

>>728985793
listen there are some things more important in life than games and this is one of them

>The Big List of Switch 2 Exclusives
>$10 tech demo
>Mario Kart 19
>Non-Rare DK
>Cartoon kart racer that could run just fine on the Switch 1 but Nintendo is greedy
wowwwwww

>>728986051
Yeah, it's doing wii u numbers
Absolutely pathetic

Can't say there's a single game that justifies the console for me. Hate casual games like Kirby and Donkey Kong, Mario Kart gets boring after a while, Pokemon is complete slop, and Prime 4 is just absurdly disappointing.

>>728986387
You're absolutely delusional lol

>>728984318
A lot of it is the same mental gymnastics I saw on /v/ and Neofag back in 2017 and 2018, just now it's all over the internet because it gets clicks. Time is a flat circle.

>>728986024
yeah who doesn't love and overpriced console with no games

>>728984318
I agree that the delusions are retarded, sales are fact
However, I can acknowledge S2's success, but also be critical of how semitic nintendo's being in what it "offers"

I think it's selling ok, but $450 + $80 games i think scared off most people.
It will pick up momentum after they announce the first Zelda/Mario for the system, but i'm hoping people don't buy it for long enough to force Nintendo to drop the price to 399.

>>728984318
It's definitely not a failure and if you're a Nintendo fan that should be a bad thing. Desperate Nintendo is best Nintendo, shit gets worse when they get super cocky. That's why we have $70-80 games, no ability to buy and own classic games and have to pay $60 a year, allowing almost every 3rd party game to have game key cards instead of a real cartridge, and open world slop infecting every franchise.

>>728986387
>wii u numbers
hahaha oh you
it's going to or already outsold the wii u entire lifetime sales

We know it isn't saleswise. But in terms of being anti consumer and having mid games, its very much a failure. Switch 1 had two metacritic 97s off the bat, Switch 2 slop is lucky it breaks 80

>>728986883
Dunno why you think metacritic matters. BOTW and TOTK both had 96+, and they were both kind of bad. Like ubislop tier trash.

>>728986746
>if you're a Nintendo fan that should be a bad thing
This. It's happened before, and it's history repeating itself, with the added bullshit free money that is nso

>>728986592
>>728986868
>tendies don't understand sarcasm

>>728986443
Pokemon and Metroid are also both available on Switch 1 too.

>>728986883
I know what does and doesn't look appealing to me, idgaf what critics think
Where I take issue is above most issues, how anti consumer Nintendo, and more specifically S2 is

>>728986746
>Desperate Nintendo is best Nintendo
cubefag cope, desperate Nintendo gave us abysmal garbage like Star Fox 0, Amiibo Festival, Federation Force, etc.

"Desperate Nintendo" eras are the WORST times to be a Nintendo fan if you want anything other than bing bing wahoo Mario games with other IPs relegated to garbage spinoffs.

>>728987024
>"Desperate Nintendo" eras are the WORST times to be a Nintendo fan if you want anything other than bing bing wahoo Mario games with other IPs relegated to garbage spinoffs.
But enough about garbage spinoffs like DK Bananza and Hyrule Warriors.

>>728986908
Even so they are games which remained in public consensus and inspired many rip-off games. You just don't see that level of excitement for Switch 2 anything unless its people playing pretend investors

>>728987156
A fair enough point.

>>728986020
>t-t-that doesn't count!!!

>>728987090
Hyrule Warriors is a Wii U era series and Bananza is the first 3D DK game in over 20 years which released to both critical and commercial success. "Desperate Nintendo" would have just shat out some DK party game with reused assets from Tropical Freeze.

>>728987270
>Hyrule Warriors is a Wii U era series and Bananza is the first 3D DK game in over 20 years which released to both critical and commercial success.
When the only metric you have to describe a game is muh game journos and muh sales, your game is shit. Don't be a snoy that quotes sales statistics whenever it's convenient for you.

>>728987309
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T USE OBJECTIVE MEASURES OF A GAME BEING WELL-RECEIVED
lmao, you're right, guess I should base how well received a game is based on how often a webm is spammed on /v/ instead

Bananza's user score matches the critic score btw

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>>728987405
>Bananza's user score matches the critic score btw
It's like you refuse to learn from history.

>>728986926
Poe's law, anon, there are genuinely retarded people on the internet arguing that the Switch 2's sales have collapsed suddenly and Nintendo overestimated demand (saying this after they revised their forecasts upward kek) because it came 2nd against a discounted PS5 on Black Friday.

>>728986926
>you think they're sarcastic when they say dumb shit
You poor naive fool

It's obviously not a failure--it's like, what, the fastest selling console to date, right? Because the whole launch thru holiday strategy revolved around them being available?

Anyway my kids are getting one on Christmas morning and I'm pretty excited to see Bananza and MK World (even though I am kind of leery of World for some reason) but I am already tired of how conservative they have been with it. They pushed the launch of the console back an entire calendar year and in the first holiday there are two really exciting games worth owning on it? I don't mean to disregard Prime 4 and Air Riders--in fact I think Air Riders looks really neat, but god damn if they aren't really taking things slowly. I thought for sure that the whole idea with the delay was to blow out the first year. Instead the momentum of the Switch 2 is predicated on what will certainly come later and the fact that the PS5 is fucking stale and will probably never have games and Xbox is dead. The biggest reason to own the Switch 2 is the promise of unannounced games to come. Doesn't feel awesome.

>>728986868
False. Its SALES are under 3 million. It's just overshipped

>>728984318
A lot of people say they get Wii U vibes from the Switch 2, but I think that's inaccurate. I get Gamecube vibes from it.
Both consoles (Switch 2 and Gamecube) even made the weird decision of not launching with a 3D Mario.

>>728988771
False, piggy.

>>728988631
See >>728988771
It's not the fastest selling

>>728984318
>3 games in 7 months is somehow a good thing
remember the ps2 we got like 100 new games in a single year for the console and like 700 or something total during its lifespan
yes 50% of those games may have not been 10/10 but atleast 50% of those were good games, per year btw, my ps2 collection year 3 was like 90 games none of which were on pc

>>728989538
>See [my unfounded, unsourced bullshit]

>Nintendo is finished.
>10 million Switch 2s sold? Let's actually look at that.
>Why the Switch 2 CAN'T compare to the Wii U (50,000 SUB SPECIAL!)
>They're about to RUIN ANIMAL CROSSING.
>MY NEW DISCORD!!!1!ONE
>Nintendo just keeps failing...
>I'm selling my Switch 2... (100k Sub Special!)
>i didnt want to make this video
>Nintendo DON'T want you to know this.
>Reacting and responding to TurkeyTom's video about me.
>I brought back my Switch 2. Here's why.
>im sorry
>Video Officer: ScottTheWoz
>*REAL* CALLING IWATA AT 3AM (TOTALBISCUIT JOINS?!)
>I need to be my true self.

>>728986443
>Hate casual games like
Christ, am I back in 2009?

>>728984318
>twist this into being a failure
>sold 1/3 compared to PS5 during black friday, despite PS5 already having sold 90M+ units
you don't need a to twist anything, just don't be a blind tendie retard

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>>728989703
>>I need to be my true self.

>>728989607
>50% were good games
I just don't know about that man. The PS2 was without a doubt the console of my life, or at least the system that defined my adolescence, but even after goofing around with a modded PS2 and then scooching over the PCSX2--there just aren't that many incredible games that are still stuck on there. You still think Smuggler's Run is an excellent game? FlatOut? Project Snowblind? Out of the greatest games of that generation, how many of them were *best experienced* on the PS2? I'd tip my hat to MGS3 and MGS3, the Team Ico games, and Katamari, but what are the other huge ones?

The PS2 was a great venue to play a lot of everything, which was what made it great. The Switch 1 is like that. If you have a Switch, you have far-and-away the strongest library of exclusives in two generations combined, plus it's an awesome place to play indies because indies wanna be there. The only games you miss out on are like AssCreed and Call of Duty.

The Switch 2 launch has been a bummer but Nintendo is running a race with no other entrants and are in no hurry to cannibalize the success of their previous console--especially not before its last big holiday. I'm not happy about it. But the idea that we'd be better off with 85+ more modern day equivalents to Triggerman and Simpsons Road Rage and Enter the Matrix and whatever else--that shit sucked man. Even the best lower-profile games from that era like Mark of Kri or Marc Ecko's Getting Up or Def Jam Fight for NY, those games aren't even that good. You go back and play them for a few hours once and that's it. The N64 and the GameCube and the Dreamcast were CLEAR LOSERS in their time, but do you know why people like to back to them? Because it's easy to digest and understand a software library that is comprised of like a dozen or fewer really strong games. That's why people still want to play Chibi Robo and Virtua Tennis and Chu Chu Rocket but nobody under the age of 30 even knows what Spy Hunter is.

>>728990123
>>sold 1/3 compared to PS5 during black friday, despite PS5 already having sold 90M+ units
The Switch 1 getting outsold by the fucking Xbone on Black Friday 2017 and that was with BotW and Odyssey out.

>>728986443
How can you swy Prime 4 is disappointing if you haven't played it?

>>728990123
>worst November in hardware sales in 20 years
>PS5 sales down 40% yoy to Nintendo's 10%
>Sony's the king though
nice cope

>>728988771
this its JUST overshipped to stores, overbought by customers, and overplayed by people who like games!

>>>/vp/

>>728984402
But I make fun of it all the time and I have a handheld that’s twice as expensive as it

>>728990638
You are mentally I'll

>>728988771
>Its SALES are under 3 million. It's just overshipped
Retards still believe nintendo is just dumping millions of switch 2 units to retailers for free lol

>>728992893
That moron is going to argue that Nintendo is strongarming them into taking "Shitch Poos" that won't sell, but also Nintendo is going to be bankrupts (sic) any day now.
He did the exact same thing with the Switch 1.

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>>728984318
Cope. He won.

>>728993014
He mindbroke tendies

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>>728986746
>Desperate Nintendo is best Nintendo
I guess I have to remind you dumbfucks the slop we used to get during the "best" era of nintendo

>>728993014
Won what?

>>728989607
You decided to ignore every other Switch 2 game, be exclusives or not, out of pure dishonesty so your point is essentially moot.
I don't disagree that the PS2 was a monster with a big amount of games, but that was also a different time when western games didn't suck balls as they usually do now, game budgets weren't inflated into bloated numbers for graphics (thus contributing to less experimental projects), and certain companies weren't firing/dropping their employees on the spot instead of cultivating a culture where old veterans would teach newbies.

>>728987024
>"Desperate Nintendo" eras are the WORST times
I would say they're the worst time if you enjoy videogames, period. I find funny how certain individuals are trying to paint Iwata in a good light when the guy allowed amiboo figurines to lock away actual gameplay content during the 3DS and WiiU era.
And the sole real 'anti-consumer' practices Nintendo has done recently were the removal of the gold points and coupons on the Eshop.

>>728993315
>removal of the gold points
It really bothers me we don't get gold points anymore but they still show the currency on the eshop and nintendo site like if it was never removed

>>728984318
I give absolutely zero fucks about the public opinion on games or if it is commercially successful or not. If it's fun I play, if it's unsuccessful and causes the company that made it to cease to exist, then I guess I'll find a different game. It is absolutely baffling to me how much stock people put into whether their favorite game is held in high regards by the public, even stooping to trying to falsify history and/or just manipulate the public opinion. It's legitimate mental illness.

>>728985886
hi, sonyggger from the future

>>728993223
You're mom

>>728984318
Many people are trying to twist many things into being failures all the time because too many people have too much free time and too much access to free validation for whatever dumbass opinions they have. The only way to get an honest take on anything these days is genuinely to go outside and talk to people. The internet is the most poisoned fucking well in the universe now.

The damage Eric did to the brand was devastating

>>728984318
I wouldn't call them people.
They've spent the last 8 years hoping Nintendo would fail and tried turning Switch 2 into a tortanic. Now that it didn't work out again they are lashing out

>>728993415
I found the gold points to be very practical on the Japanese Switch Eshop since I'm only able to buy games and DLCs with prepaid cards. Most often using the points by paying the few yen that were missing in my account balance.
>>728993565
>The internet is the most poisoned fucking well in the universe now.
I can agree on that but mostly because of the generated fake outrage thanks to social media (Twitter, Youtube, etc.) and Nintendo is usually the number 1 topic to get excessively angry at (even for asinine reasons).

>>728985886
Niggy, there was no Christmas yet
>>728986040
No, it doesn't. It's still the fastest selling console of all time

>>728984318
I dont have to "twist" anything. The Shitch 2 is a failure. Creatively, critically, commercially.

>>728993115
Desperate Nintendo extends into the first couple of years of the Switch. All the biggest games like Odyssey, Smash, Animal Crossing, and botw started development when Nintendo was in deep shit with the Wii U and it was uncertain the Switch would be a success. Those shit games were not the RESULT of desperation, they were the CAUSE.

Look at us now, Nintendo got so cocky with botw that they took 6 years to release glorified DLC as a sequel. We're 6 months into the Switch 2 and there are no signs a next Smash game even exists yet, and they've yet to announce a 3D Mario game.

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>>728995557
>Desperate Nintendo extends into the first couple of years of the Switch. All the biggest games like Odyssey, Smash, Animal Crossing, and botw started development when Nintendo was in deep shit with the Wii U and it was uncertain the Switch would be a success. Those shit games were not the RESULT of desperation, they were the CAUSE.
>Look at us now, Nintendo got so cocky with botw that they took 6 years to release glorified DLC as a sequel. We're 6 months into the Switch 2 and there are no signs a next Smash game even exists yet, and they've yet to announce a 3D Mario game.

Anon nintendo have never been better anyone who wants go back to desperate times are fucking retards. The last 3 years of Nintendo is arguably the best they have ever been with tears of the kingdom, mario wonder, pikmin 4, fire emblem engage, bananza, MKW, hyrule warriors, etc. Also they are making niche fun games that serve a audience like air riders, metroid prime, princess peach etc. 3D mario is deep in development we know that because the bananza was made by the B team and that game is a masterpiece now imagine the next mario. They have put out more games and more variety of games than both sony and microsoft combined with fucking less than half the manpower and people like you are still bitching.

>>728995286
You're never going to convince anyone of your argument if you take such an extremist stance and blatantly lie. I say that as someone who is not satisfied with the Switch 2 overall. Creatively and critically, sure, even though DK has a 91 average, and Mario Kart World despite all its controversy still has an 86. But acting like the Switch 2 is not selling well is just really retarded. It sold 10 million in the first 4 months and will probably be over 15 million by the end of 2025, which is only 7 months after release. In what world is that a failure?

>>728995741
nta but Tears of Kingdom was honestly "bleh" but that's especially myself not liking the building mechanics. I did enjoy Fire Emblem Engage, Mario Wonder, Bananza and the latest Zelda musou on the other hand.
Also Switch has been my primary platform for third-parties which I assume is what the platform warring anons are the most pissed about, since Nintendo is no longer the underdog of the industry.

>>728995761
switch 2 is getting outsolded comparaitively to shitch 1 last year holiday season.
you losted.

>>728995761
NTA but anywhere outside of Japan the Switch 2 is getting outsold by the PS5 with a ratio of 2-to-1.
In my country (France) I can already get the console for 100 EUR off.
So it's a mild flop for sure.

>>728995908
>Nintendo is no longer the underdog of the industry.

I mean they are easily considering mega corps like sony and microsoft have way more resources than nintendo. Same with companies like asus making handhelds and other hardware manufacturers. Nintendo is the underdog easily still. Its also sad when roblox and fortnite make more money than most of the first party games from any publisher.

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>>728984318
It's a spiritual failure. The only good game out now is Air Riders. Bananza isn't even as good as Odyssey which was already the worst 3d mario game to date.

>>728995761
He'll point to Hyrule Warriors, Kirby Air Riders and Prime 4 getting 79 or some shit. Completely ignoring that almost all Musou games get 79 and Air Riders is a sequel to a game that got 61. MP4 was this board's broken clock moment since it actually was a dud.

>>728995993
>NTA but anywhere outside of Japan the Switch 2 is getting outsold by the PS5 with a ratio of 2-to-1.
>In my country (France) I can already get the console for 100 EUR off.
>So it's a mild flop for sure.

You realize the same shit happened with Switch 1? PS4 was beating the switch in a couple months. However what console went to sell over 150 million units again? Remind me.

>>728996002
I meant in the way that Nintendo used to be underdog with the weak hardware, thus used to have limited third-party support even within Japan. Between diminishing returns since the last decade and Playstation screwing up big time, things changed however.

>>728996107
>He'll point to Hyrule Warriors, Kirby Air Riders and Prime 4 getting 79 or some shit. Completely ignoring that almost all Musou games get 79 and Air Riders is a sequel to a game that got 61. MP4 was this board's broken clock moment since it actually was a dud.

Yea I know. It means fuck all when like you said those games air riders and hyrule actually are the highest rated in their series and genres. Also, the gamecube era had notoriously bad scores on metacritic for games like warioworld, air riders, chibi robo, every mario party etc. All those games are fun so it means fuck all in the end.

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>gets outsold by a 4 year old console in Its original release price
NintenDeen WON

>>728996107
>8/10 with the Nintendo bonus for the entire launch lineup
>This is supposed to be a good thing
Hohohoho... Bings really arent taking the floppeded well....

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>>728995993
Pas mal.
>anywhere outside of Japan the Switch 2 is getting outsold by the PS5 with a ratio of 2-to-1
What's your source for this claim? Hopefully not VGShartz.

>>728996107
>>728996390
I dunno why people ever bother to use Metacritic or suddenly trust the opinions of """professional journalists"""". If anything I believe these people are massive casuals who don't play games much.
My #1 favorite game franchise, Earth Defense Force, get yellow ratings despite I consider it to be one of the must fun vidya.

>6 month old consolé
>already 100 dollaroos off
JUST

>>728986208
non rare DK is fine. returns and especially tropical freeze were good and bananza is also pretty soulful

>>728996554
It’s temporarily $50 off at some retailers . Just like with muh $90 games you have to lie because otherwise you have no ground to stand on

>>728996479
This is less about the "Switch 2 flopping" and more the french superrmarkets (Auchan, Leclerc, Carrefour, etc.) being usually highly competitive against each other. Nevermind during holiday periods.
Of course, I don't think global shitposters care the slightest about context.

>>728984318
it's the most blatant example of forced, disingenuous hate i've ever seen for a console in my entire life
especially since this console is quite literally what everyone wanted; a switch, but more powerful
the nintendo derangement syndrome is real

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>it's the most blatant example of forced, disingenuous hate i've ever seen for a console in my entire life
especially since this console is quite literally what everyone wanted; a switch, but more powerful
the nintendo derangement syndrome is rea

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Wrong pic?

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>it's the most blatant example of forced, disingenuous hate i've ever seen for a console in my entire life
especially since this console is quite literally what everyone wanted; a switch, but more powerful
the nintendo derangement syndrome is rea

>>728997201
I don’t think that’s what consumers wanted. What we got is the “bare minimum” like when TotK came out and the consensus was “I don’t care if it’s the same map just give me dungeons!”

>>728997712
>10x power upgrade and best performance to price ratio in its class is “bare minimum”

>>997712
AI post

>>728997771
Wasn’t this shit originally called the switch pro

>>728997201
I don't think there has ever been a more concentrated effort for straight up misinformation or pointless drama like it's been done towards the Switch 2, including pre-release.
I even thought for a moment the Switch 2 was region-locked because of the way the journalists were reporting. Then you get the hysteria over shit like the terms of service and else.
If anything, I'm laughing on how the bubble of the Internet stood hardcore against the Switch 2, thus ultimately proving that what you read on the web is really not linked to the real world.

>>728996465
How much Switch 2's were even available in the US/Americans in that time period?
Do people think that there were more PS5's available or Switch 2's?

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>728997201
>forced disingenuous hate
>when Nintendo raised the price of the console by $110 outside of Japan for no apparent reason
>when they (unsuccessful) tried to raise the standard industry price for games from $70 to $80.
>when they're still using potentiometer sticks in big 2025 for their controllers
>when they also cheap out on the battery and screen of their new console
>when they charge $10 for letting you use the extra performance of the switch 2 in games YOU ALREADY OWN
Don't even deserve a (you)

forced disingenuous hate post right there just above this post

>>728997882
>>when Nintendo raised the price of the console by $110 outside of Japan for no apparent reason
First point alone is enough to tell how low-IQ you are. The Switch 2 isn't cheaper for the Japanese in Japan, they don't earn salaries in dollars, therefore it costs the same for them as it does for us.

It's gonna be hilarious when 'Tendo eventually release the next 3D Mario and Zelda and all of the doomposting faggots "arguments" will wither away
The meltie is gonna be glorious

>>728997882
>$70 to $80 games
Where are those fabled 80 bucks games?
Because when I go to the store, the games are 50 bucks, just like on Switch 1
God I love ultra competitive French hypermarket chains so much

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>>728997967
?

>>728997808
It wasn’t.

>>728984318
How much do you get paid to shill Nintendo all day everyday?

>>728998175
It was until investors started putting pressure on nintendo

>>728998136
You're a dumb monkey.
49,980 yen for a Japanese person is ~499 dollars for an American.
Again, the Japanese don't earn dollars. When the yen tanked in 2021 compared to the dollar (or euro) the nips didn't magically get 1.5x salary increases to match the current exchange rates.

>>728998136
They are paying equivalent of $500. It costs the same in yen as PS5 did in 2020. It’s 50% more expensive than Switch 1 just like in the Us and Europe.
Yes, Nintendo is losing money on every Japanese Switch 2 unit sold.

>>728998240
Probably paid in rupees

>>728995928
>>728995993
Selling less than another highly successful console, including one that may possibly become the highest selling console of all time, is not a failure. Going by that logic, every game that sells less than GTA 5 and Minecraft is a failure. That's retarded.

>>728998258
No, it wasn’t. If 10x power uplift is a “Pro” model then what do you call 4x power uplift from PS4 to PS5? Even PS5 Pro isn’t 10x stronger than PS4

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>>728998306
>>728998297
?

>>728998391
>10x the power
>still can’t run skyrim

The math ain’t mathing

>>728998432
oof tendies btfo

>>728998432
>dumb moneky is thinking through exchange rates
If the dollar were to crater down against the euro, in a similar fashion of the yen right now, it wouldn't mean the americans are paying things "cheaper" from their own POV either.

>>728998432
>>728998475
Don’t waste your time. Tendies are actually brain dead retards

i bought this piece of shit on launch day and its still sitting at 11 hours playtime total.
for me its the worst console ive ever purchased right now.

>>728998716
This isn't a PS5 thread.

>>728990469
>Chibi Robo and Virtua Tennis and Chu Chu Rocket
Lmao what kind of tranny dogshit are these games?

>>728986616
Snoys. They bought 80+ millions of a literal piece of shit with no games.

>>728986746
>Desperate Nintendo is best Nintendo
Where did this idea ever come from, it's so far removed from the experience of having actually lived through the eras in which they were "desperate"
The internet would absolutely be shitting blood 24/7 if modern day Nintendo were to release something akin to Amiibo Festival or which was as unpolished as most notable Gamecube games

>>728998562
>exchange rates don’t matter!!1!
cope nintentrannymutt

>>728999806
I didn't say that, fag. I said that you SHOULDN'T look at exchanges rates and thus believe the Japanese are buying things "cheaper" because the value of their currency went to shit.
Like, I've gotten most Switch 1 games directly on the Japanese Eshop because it was cheaper for the gaijin as myself, with games costing 6500 ~ 7000 yen (~40€ with the current rate) instead of spending 60€ in my western european country. That doesn't mean however that things are cheaper for the nips though, in fact they spend a lot more money on vidya than we do.

>>728985886
>selling worse on christmas than switch 1
>its not even christmas
youre getting desperate saar

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>>728993014
This.

>>728998070
note the (unsuccessful)ly*

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Xbox Series S/X sold 12 million on its first year, then sales collapsed due to brand damage and a garbage lineup of games. Having good early sales means jackshit if you cannot keep up

>>729001182
>Xbox Series S/X sold 12 million on its first year
That's already beaten by the switch 2 at this point. The wii-u took 4 years to even reach that much.

>>729001182
Series first year was 12 months, Switch 2 went past the 12 mil mark after 6 months, first fiscal year will probably be 19-20 mil, Nintendo's predictions are constrained by supply, and I don't get how people just choose to ignore that there's literally limited supply, Nintendo couldn't outsell PS5 last month because there weren't enough Switch 2's available on store shelves to hit that number.

>>728998716
The first year lineup was announced at launch, you knew what you were getting into but still decided to buy into it.

>>729001280
>>729001560
The switch 2 will fall off a cliff once it hits its first year
Total sales will be 20 million for the rest of its life
FACT

https://www.wired.com/story/nintendo-switch-2-is-playing-it-safe-thats-the-smart-choice/

https://gameinformer.com/hardware-review/2025/06/09/switch-2-review-a-safe-but-effective-bet

>>729001683
>The switch will fall off a cliff once it hits its first year
Same false claim eight years ago.

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>>728984318
no good games

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>>729001683

>>729001832
>WHO ARE YOU YOUNG LADY?

Shitendo is bankrupts, LOL
KEKKYPOOOOOOOOOO

>>728984318
i bought one and my question is: WHERE ARE THE FUCKING GAMES? Third party games are all key cart garbage and i don't give a fuck about some DQ Builders Pokemon reskin just like I didn't care about some Dynasty Warriors Zelda reskin. The big upcoming game is fucking Yoshi. Unreal.

>>728997971
Not really. It would still have a bad screen, game keycards, high prices, the mid games which aren't those two, rubbish third party ports etc. And Zelda historically doesn't come until near the end of a consoles lifespan

>>728987024
>desperate Nintendo gave us abysmal garbage like Star Fox 0, Amiibo Festival, Federation Force, etc.
Huh? That was confident Nintendo riding off the insane success of the wii

>>728984318
cool now go enjoy "classic nintendo franchise: but open world"

>>729001560
I am talking about branding and games. Tell Nintendo to keep a good reputation and stop making wokeslop like Metroid Prime 4.

>>728993115
Ultra Smash was a lot of fun with friends

>>728984318
Flop

>>728985886
you are talking about ALL consoles though. selling better than Xbox AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

>>728984402
Exactly. Next year is going to be even worse.
> Elden Ring
> FF7
> Duskblood
> Resident Evil 7,8 and 9
> Pragmata

Since Prime 4 was the last "big" Nintendo game, I am pretty sure Nintendo will release a big Direct with upcoming 1st parties.

Also, I just found out Factorio is having a Switch 2 version, and the dev complained before he didn't have the devkit so I understand the "lack of devkit" rumors is not true anymore.

If GTA6 ( literally Sony's last hope) doesn't launch in 2026, along with the price increase across the board, next year will be VERY rough for shills.

>>728986616
I agree, I am surprised PS5 is selling as much as reported.

PS5 is not selling at the same rate as Switch 1 was last year
>Da economy

Holiday spending is higher than ever you fucking idiots.

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>>728989703
>I'm selling my Switch 2... (100k Sub Special!).
>I brought back my Switch 2. Here's why.

>>729005370
You are mentally I'll

>>728984318
Success or not it doesn't matter it's worse than swithc since it's more anti consumer
1-game key cards
2-nintendo censorship regulations
3-Furukawa didn't fund shit pretty much no games

>>729005712
Shitendo is the most evil and greedy company in human history, and it's not even close

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>>729005712
>Anti- consumer

I fucking hate leftists, holy shit. A made up word to complain about "I don't like this, but I can't control my impulse and I lack of self-respect, so I begrudgingly have to buy"

Weak ass bitches

>>729005795
This

>>728989703
Whats insane is that this is too lowkey to be real, I have unironically seen a 5+ million subscriber tech youtuber claim that the Switch 2 is anti consumer since it INCLUDES new joycons and a dock and how it is "artificially raising" the price of the system. That was the moment I realized that its all a fucking grift.

>>729005938
No, you fucking moron, it's more "I WANT to buy this, but its pricing or some other shit is leading me to not do so out of principal"

Bad games. No games. No real system sellers.

>>728986208
This shit is why no-one will ever take you seriously outside of shitposters.

>>728984402
Oh yeah, I'm so triggered that I can't play:
>Mario Kart "Drive in a straight line" World
>Donkey Kong "press punch to win" bananza
>Kirby Who Riders
And
>Metroid Prime "driving through a barron wasteland" 4
Nintendo fanboys are a joke.

>>729005289
oh the seethe is definitely going to get worse by the time the third-party support on Switch 2 gets even crazier than it is now
I think the sole notable upcoming releases skipping Switch 2 for now are Code Vein II and Ace Combat 8 but I'm also entirely fine to never play them if Bamco refuses to publish them on Nintendo. I have already far enough games to get busy next year.

Buy an ad.

>>729005289
I wonder who will be the first to make a big budget Switch 2 exclusive and for it to be a runaway success? I'm kind of hoping it's Square Enix so they can just sit there and realize that they wasted the last decade. I'm also worried that Duskbloods will be just that, and it will cause an ungodly amount of seethe.

>>729005938
I didn't buy it. I don't care about the word itself just describing how companies are choosing to fuck over consumers not sure what got you mad. I'm not leftist or right I don't give a fuck about american politics.

>>729008184
No one because the shitch poo flopped

>>728984318
The reason is obvious, the only thing they can do is cope and seethe.

>>728984318
A console with no games
>inb4 b-b-b-b-b-but muh [insert kiddieslop here]!!!!
No games.

>>728990123
Black Friday died when online shopping became a thing.

>>729007543
Done
What now?

>>729009043
But enough about the Flopstation 5

Notice how only the same few weirdos like anti-eric guy and pauline theorist actively defend nintendo

>>729007221
>I'm shit talking games I haven't played

>>729011182
ok eric

>>728993115
It's funny how shit even the top 3 is.
>paper jam
Bankrupted the studio
>tri force heroes
i now remember its existence
>star fox zero
killed the franchise and is only remembered as an example of a bad control scheme and the failure of the wii u

>>728984318
They've been seething about Switch 1 sales for almost a decade but now use it as a measuring stick to mark the Switch 2's "failure".

>release nothing but mid to shitty games
>tendies celebrating because their friends made money while giving them nothing to play
I really hope the February direct is good because I’m insanely disappointed by this thing. I bought it to play old games apparently.

>>729006617
>I have unironically seen a 5+ million subscriber tech youtuber claim that the Switch 2 is anti consumer since it INCLUDES new joycons and a dock and how it is "artificially raising" the price of the system
>new joycons
What the fuck? How does he expect people to use it without controllers?

I'm just wondering what my 4th Switch 2 game is going to be. I've skipped Metroid Prime 4.

>>729002841
Posts like yours baffle me. Do you do no research? Do you not have a sense of how long it'll likely take for your favorite franchises to get a new game based on when the most recent one released? I'm not sure how you can act so blindsided by the current release line-up outside of Bananza over a new 3D Mario and Sakurai working on something besides Smash.

>>729015190
I bought in because the price dropped $50 during the holidays and I'm expecting the RAM shortage to make prices increase next year.

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Is the reason why GameCubesnoys seethe so hard at the Switch 2 because the console sold more in one week than the Gamecube sold in its entire lifespan?

>>729015508
Fair enough. I'm not looking forward to everything inflating in price, either, but you're still probably going to be waiting a while for the major headline titles to actually release.

>>729015508
that still begs the question why you would buy a console system if you're personally struggling this much to play games (be Nintendo or third-parties, exclusives or not) on it

>>729015776
>GameCubesnoys
Please shut the fuck up. Part of why Switch 2 and its fanbase are so hated is their obsession with boogeymen like snoys and Eric. Switch 2 is seethed at because the other 2 consoles aren't of interested and (ex) nintendo fans are disappointed in the current direction of nintendo. That's all there is to it. When the great games like Smash Bros. and mainline Mario are out a lot of the discourse will be gone because fans will have a game of substance to discuss

>>728984318
it's not a failure by sales metrics, it's a failure at having any games

>>729011461
Hey retard, this isn't the 90s anymore. People can watch actual gameplay clips now and it's even easier than you talking to your favorite little AIslop

>>729016129
>system is out for less than a year
>"IT HAS NO GAMES!!!"
every fucking time

>>728998432
Tendies will twist themselves into pretzels to defend their friends. They’re honest to god cultists anon. You should know better than to talk with one.

>>729016259
>and it's even easier than you talking to your favorite little AIslop
What kind of schizo sentence is this?

>>729016270
>don’t you DARE compare the switch 2 to the switch 1 launch
Cultists faggot.

>>729016349
it's called "making a generalized guess" because most of /v/ is brown and loves LLM regurgitation
sorry you're incapable of figuring out nuanced discussion, then again you ARE a fucking retard

>>729015867
I'm looking forward to Duskbloods but we don't have an actual concrete date for that yet.

>>729016034
So I can be set for the next 8 years worth of Nintendo games and timed exclusives at what might be the lowest buy in price we see for the hardware.

>>729016493
Switch 1 is 100% Wii U ports so it would be pretty fair

>>729016101
>Part of why Switch 2 and its fanbase are so hated
Oh fuck off, snoy. GameCube fags and snoys will always the most hated fanbases in video games no matter how you try to manipulate the narrative.

Keep trying to spin the narrative like how you desperately keep trying to spin the fact that the Switch 2 is a massive success though.

>>728984402
>broke third worlders can't but the cheapest console

>>729016101
>(ex) nintendo fans are disappointed
So in other words, snoys? Why would actual Nintendo fans be disappointed when Nintendo is more successful than ever?

>>729016792
>Why would actual Sony fans be disappointed when Sony is more successful than ever?

>>729016573
Lmao the the switch 2 is all paid performance patches for switch 1 games

>>729016879
Performance patches are free

>>729016493
I didn't say that, though I will now. The Switch 1 launch was exceptional by any console's standard, but then again it heavily relied on Wii U ports, one of which is the most overrated game of all time. Also, xenoblade fucking sucks if you're not a weeb.

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>>729016615
Correct.

>>729016504
>gets called schizophrenic
>doubles down on the schizophrenia
>refuses to take meds

>>729017017
>. The Switch 1 launch was exceptional by any console's standard, but then again it heavily relied on Wii U ports
NTA but yeah, they're attempting to do that again with the Switch 2 ports of Switch 1 games(games like Kirby, BotW, TotK, and ACNH getting physical rereleases for the Switch 2) but it's a bit different when you're porting games everyone already played vs games no one played.

>>729016270
switch had botw and splatoon 2 by this point
gamecube had melee, pikmin, luigi mansion, animal crossing, REmake by this point, and sunshine with a year
even the wiiu had nintendoland, pikmin 3 and wonderful 101 by this point, and 3D world within a year
suufami had fzero and super mario world

switch 2 only has bananza. very very weak launch. and this despite nintendo having more resources to make games than they ever have before. this should be their strongest launch, not their weakest

>>729017253
wow, you really ARE retarded

>>729016986
Except for Pokémon and Metroid and Zelda botw and totk and…

>>728984318
Its a failure to me cause I'm not interested. Thanks for coming to my talk

>>729017374
Tendies buy $20 snes roms Nintendo knows its retarded fanbase well.

>>729017501
>"you don't get it retard, there are brown people talking to me at night, they're in the ceiling and they use AI to trick normies into thinking they're not real"

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>>729017209
feels good to be a first worlder then

>>729017383
I'm almost tempted to make a proper research and create a comparison picture, just to prove claims like yours are essentially bullshit
The Switch 1 was certainly weak at its launch year, especially when it comes to third-parties, compared to the Switch 2. I sure didn't bother with a Switch 1 until it reached halfway into its lifespan.

>>729017772
no one who posts entirely in greentext is capable of arguing coherently and you're proving that right now by projecting your insanity
please stop bothering me

Is there a reason why Switch games were ever 60 bucks in the first place? Nintendo is supposed to make insane profits just from pokemon alone, and it's not like they're wasting money on realistic graphics and celebrity voice actors, right? So surely this means the games should be a lower price. They have no reason to ever raise the prices, and could've remained the only company immune to inflation.

>>728993115
Eh… Zero is overhated.

>>729018507
No it isn't, the fuck?

Buy a Retroid Pocket G2. It runs PS2 games and GameCube games flawlessly for only €170 and all the games are free and 2000s kino instead of paying €80 for ports of Switch 1 games

>>729016573
>lol nobody bought a wiiu
>WTF NINTENDO I ALREADY PLAYED THESE GAMES ON WIIU
Schroedinger's console

>>729000727
>>729005221

This might shock you, but people don’t buy stuff for Christmas on Christmas Day

>>729018584
I mustve missed bonanza and air riders coming out on switch 1

>>729018584
you cubies aren’t even trying to hide it anymore

>>729018439
Reminder that you brought up AI and brown people out of nowhere. There was nothing to coherently argue about in the first place.

>>728984402
>you're poor because you don't want to buy a handheld that's extremely shit as a handheld due to its incredibly poor screen, battery life and unergonomic controls
do you people even understand the concept of value?

>>729018709
find a PS4 level handheld with a good battery life. I'll wait

>>728984318
it's not a failure but it does suck and that's worse

>>729018709
These are the same people who trash talked snoys for defending pay2play online, and then did it themselves the moment the switch did it.

>>729018761
maybe the entire concept of a ps4 level handheld is fucking retarded to begin with

>>729018829
not at all. Now show me the handheld

>>729018829
This. I'd rather play my homebrewed Vita or PSP.

>>729018953
this is why I moved to chinkhelds personally

>>729018709
There is a difference between not wanting something and actively participating in an Internet group to hate something (you never planned to buy anyway) like a rabid dog

>>729019014
>YOU CANNOT TALK ABOUT THINGS YOU DISLIKE
>4CHAN IS A HUGBOX, DON'T HURT MY FEELINGS
kek

>>729018708
>reminder
go back to sucking dicks on reddit

>>729017017
The only Wii U ports early on were Mario Kart and BoTW. It also helped that the Switch was an actual handheld, so even if you could get those games for the Wii U, they had more value on the Switch. This is why Nintendo could get away with porting games to the Wii U in the first place.

>>729019071
lad the fact you parroted the exact same talking about the screen, battery life and controls prove you're this gullible and influenced by hate groups
Like i'd agree with the battery life not being great but we have PC handhelds being heralded here so this talking point is rather moot.

>>728984318
Super Switch!

>>729019071
>admits to shitposting instead of actually caring about the system's value
imagine my shock

>>729019195
>>729019175
>you don't actually hate the console, it's le evil hate groups trying to ruin video games destroy fun!

>>729018761
the switch 2 has a 20w battery, the deck has 50 and newer pc handhelds have at least 70
not to mention that they're not propped up by that hardware, it's a one time sale for them while for nintendo it's a platform for their overpriced and extremely profitable games
if you're going to release a toy that can do one thing and one thing only it should be at least good at that thing

>>729019175
>everyone recognises the same flaws because they're so blatant and severe
>this invalidates the complaint somehow
???

>>729019206
>cheaper system uses cheaper parts
WOW, I wonder why the $450 system doesnt use a more expensive battery!

>>729019292
a $450 system that leads to sales of $80 software and has a subscription attached to it
why the fuck does valve offer an oled, better feeling controllers and a 2.5x bigger battery at that price point when they get way less revenue attached to that hardware sale?

>>729019285
its very good at what it does. no other system is $450 that reaches PS4 levels of tech, and it supports their ecosystem of nintendo games just fine. Just because you want it even cheaper doesnt mean its financially feasible

>>729019175
if everyone says something's shit then it's probably actually shit and not just a bunch of contrarian trolls
you yourself even confirm one of the talking points

>>728985886
It's still early in the console's life, so it's mainly selling to enthusiasts right now. Give it time. By the end of next year a lot more games with broad appeal will be out for it.

>>729019382
steam is discontinuing their cheapest deck, and they sell less because the majority of its userbase already has a PC. The deck family sells pissants compared to switch because people want nintendo games

>>729019281
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>>729019397
>>everyone recognises the same flaws because they're so blatant and severe
>>if everyone says something's shit then it's probably actually shit and not just a bunch of contrarian trolls
Weird how nobody made a big deal out of the screen at launch until Digital Foundry made a video in July. Again this proves how the Internet """""people"""" (aka not part of the real world) are this gullible and influenced by their social media overlords.

>>729019397
>if everyone says something's shit
that doesnt happen though

>>729019521
I have never once watched a Digital Foundry video. I just don't like the switch or switch 2. also don't like their game libraries.

I prefer indie games and multiplats. And unfortunately the Switch versions are the worst.

>>729019546
dumbass

>>729019487
and that lcd deck is not only cheaper than the switch 2 but it was also a fully functional pc that's bringing in way less revenue due to people playing older games and cheaper indies on it
again, why is nintendo asking for more profit on their hardware on top of more profit on their software and why do you defend it?

>>729019651
ad hominem. concession accepted

>>729019170
Pokken Tournamnet was early in the Switch's life too.

>>729019665
why are you once again blaming nintendo for putting games up to a market standard every other console(and even steam) was already doing?

>>729019521
that just means tendies that bought it when it had no games have no point of relation as to what a good screen looks like

>>729019693
no one says this though

>>729019759
because those other games are much more expensive to make?
nintendo copied the price without copying the production costs

>>729019759
I can blame Nintendo for sinking to sony and Microsoft's low bar, when indies can sell for as low as 99 cents and still make great games.

Tell me, why can't Nintendo sell 20 dollar games like Hollow Knight: silksong? AND they already announced free DLC, while pokemon demands 30 bucks for crap.

>>729019773
>supposed tech guys couldn't find out that the screen was actually flawed until SEVERAL weeks later after their initial test of the Switch 2 and the games
it really makes you think

>>729019872
prime 4 is the most expensive metroid game nintendo's ever released

>>729019521
DF made the video in response to the complaints, dumbfuck. You can easily find comments about the screen from users before journos started making articles about it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoSwitch/comments/1l4vfke/motion_blur_on_nintendo_switch_2_screen/
https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoSwitch/comments/1l6gtrl/the_switch_2_screen_has_poor_response_time/
https://famiboards.com/threads/nintendo-switch-2-screen-feedback.13984/

>>728984318
>Acting surprised that "alt righters" are trying to twist and spin the narrative
Are you for real?

>>729019858
youre right. Almost nobody says the system is shit except youtube grifters and third worlders who cant afford one

>>729019954
That's their fault for bungling the game and needing to restart it from scratch.

Nintendo engineered themselves into a corner with the switch.

>powerful enough for their standards to function as a living room console
>easily portable
Now they can never go back.
What else are they gonna do from now on? They can't justify a new console that's not portable. It's just gonna be a new Switch every 6 years until Nintendo finally suffers a financial blow like Sega and then it's going to be Super Mario on Playstation.

>>729018507
The hate was deserved anon. The controls were garbage and the story was just starfox 64 again

>>729019919
i don't get what you people gain by trying to downplay this as a hate wagon when you're the main victims of this
nintendo chose profit over your viewing pleasure despite making money on you hand over fist

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It stopped being funny a long time ago. It's disturbing seeing some people lose all common sense just because nintendo is doing okay.

>>729020017
so you agree then, they put lots of money into their games

>>729020026
It's sad because the Switch 2 is really pushing the limits of portability with the size and poor battery life. I'd like Nintendo to go back to real portables but it seems like that's never going to happen.

>>729018461
Other companies raised to $70 so Nintendo has actually been cheaper for ages now

>>729020026
seems to work just fine for PS and xbox

>>728985634
Not even. PS5 (five year old console btw) is still outselling it outside of nipland.

>>729020208
source: VGshartz

>>728998432
I know you’re financially illiterate but this is really embarrassing frankly. Let me ask you this. When Covid hit did your boss give you a raise commensurate with the inflation you experienced?
Or are you just an unemployed nigger on welfare and thus don’t understand money because you’re a useless leech?

>>729020115
They wasted alot of money. That's not my problem. Much like I don't care how much sony spent making Astro Bot, it should be 10 bucks max.

>>729020124
No one makes games for handhelds anymore. Look at how much less third party support the 3ds got compared to the ds. The 3ds selling worse is part of it, but it's not the entirity of the issue. They can't make true handhelds anymore since this issue would've been even worse than the 3ds had. I don't think Nintendo can really exit the hybrid form factor anytime soon.

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>>729020026
>Super Mario on Playstation
You mean on GeForce NOW.
Consoles will cease to exist within the decade. Big tech billionaires will force everyone onto cloud gaming by making consoles/personal computers unafforable/outright impossible to build/sell.

>>729019759
nta but $70 for nintendo is different than $70 for anyone else. $70 for nintendo means games are $50 on sale max. $70 for square enix means games are still going down to $20 on sale just like the $60 games did, only early buyers get fucked. ff16 was a $70 game, it's now $20 all the time. nintendo's switch games were $60, you're lucky if they go on sale for $40. botw is now $70 without the dlc included on switch 2 so lol.

>>729020183
Really? So why is Hollow Knight Silksong only 15 bucks on sale right now?

>>729020358
I was satisfied with the support Nintendo, Squeenix, Capcom and Atlus gave the 3DS. Frankly I liked the 3DS library a lot better than the Switch. But I know that's a minority opinion.

>>729020421
>$70 is different from $70 because I want sales!
thats not it works, retard

>>729019965
The thing about the poor response time seems to be a lie since I can play rhythm games just fine on the Switch 2 without tinkering in the options, be handheld or with my large PC screen.

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>>729020489
3rd world comprehension fail!
Hes right though. Once you factor in the physical cartridge cost (which will skyrocket during the chip shortage) there a baseline that can't be crossed without losing money for the publisher. Sony has discs which costs pennies to manufacture, with larger storage capacity.

You'd think nintendo would have learned its lesson from the N64 days, but here we go again.

PLUS, Nintendo hates putting their games on sale. So $70 for a game means it'll only drop by 10 or 20 on sale, where a $70 Sony or steam game could plummet to 10 or 20 in total.

>>729020776
physical media cost means absolutely nothing. You can buy a game digitally off any sony, steam or xbox storefront and its still $70

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>>729020541
Its not a lie. Hell, i own an older LCD tv with more input lag and I can still play rhythm games on it, its just something you get used to.

I think the screen looks good, but it feels kinda blurry during movement. They obviously cheaped out here but I can't blame them since their users are largely retarded.

>>729020776
Common cope here is "well it's higher priced because it's higher quality" which goes contrary to fanboys praising NSO for being cheaper than PSN. I love seeing them try to argue those things together.

>>729020015
>almost nobody says [factually correct thing]
sure, buddy

>>729020862
You retard. We're talking about price over time.

Also Switch cards cost the publisher around $15-$17 right now (for 64gb)

>>729020907
its not factually correct, otherwise everybody would be returning their switches en masse, and thered be more public backlash than youtube grifters repeating the same lies as retards on /v/

>>729020776
>You'd think nintendo would have learned its lesson from the N64 days, but here we go again.
Nintendo can't exactly slap a disc drive on a handheld. I think they're kinda stuck with cartridges. Maybe the dock can house it next time?

>>728984318
It's only successful in Japan where the console's price is being subsidized by price gouging Europe and American gamers.
In Europe Switch 2 is as dead as Xbox, in the US only the hardcore drones are showing up.
Parents and children are also more enamored with the NEX Playground and all those family waggle games used to be exclusive to Nintendo

>>728984318
$67.63 stock price. I could buy Nintendo.

>>728984402
>there's no emulator
Yes, idiot. A device that you guys say is overpriced to scam levels is affordable to them, but not this console.

>>729020867
It says a lot more about tech guys unable to find the supposed flaws of the Switch 2's screen until it took random nobodies on the Internet to swap the narrative around for essentially outrage clicks

>>729018709
>incredibly poor screen
How spoiled are you? It looks good to me

>>729020942
>price over time
you act like resellers and refurbished stock dont exist

>>729020995
literally all you've done this entire reply chain is go "nuh uh"

>>729021172
it's measurably worse than the switch 1 screen 8 years ago

>>729020995
I think the Ps5 is hot garbage, and yet nobody is returning it en masse. Heck, I think the PS4 was trash too, so why did it sell 100 million consoles?

>>729021209
its all I have to do. There is no public outcry against nintendo, and its supported by people buying it in record numbers along with game attachment rate. Its up to you to prove me wrong

>>728984318
The way tendies gargle Nintendo's cum with their asshole is hilarious.

>>729001973
>You can’t make those kinds of accusations without evidence. I ASSSHUUUUME that you have some?

>>729021267
becausensonys will buy literally anything witha PS logo on it, and its cheaper/more convenient for retards then just getting a PC

PS4 had more temporary exclusives, xbox shot itself in the foot, and the wiiu was too hard for literal retards too understand, and had poor library support

>>729021242
I only played on it one time but it didn't look worse to me. I haven't heard many people complain either

>>729021039
True, but I was more referring to Nintendo's stubbornness this gen but not only selling 64gb switch cards but making them prohibitivly expensive for some reason, which made the cost too high to even use for most games.

Had they had smaller, cheaper cards for devs a launch this would have been a much smaller issue and less people would be complaining about game key cards as well.

>>729020489
Are you retarded? Nintendo doesn't have deep sales so their prices raising matters more because everyone else drops their games to $20. You'll see third parties put their games 50% off after 3 months all the time these days. It doesn't matter what the starting price is if you're not a FOMO retard, but with Nintendo's games they don't go on sale in the same way so the starting price does matter a lot more than everywhere else.

>>729021132
I mean I noticed it immediately. But i'm old as fuck and remember old laptop STN screens where everything had ghost trails in windows.

And while the critics are right, a lot of it is amplified for clicks and controversy.

>>729021526
>less people would be complaining about game key cards as well.
Which is nothing more than a very vocal minority on the Internet as well

>>729021586
>WAAAAAH I CANT BUY IT 50% OFF 3 MONTHS LATER
70 bucks is the same as 70 bucks

>>729021469
>switch and switch 2 good because they sell alot
>selling alot is only good when nintendo does it, if the ps4 does it then it's le heckin bad >:(

>>729021203
Oh ffs. The cope here is fucking 4 dimensional.

>>729021658
where did I say the PS4 was bad?

>>729021526
Fast flash memory is expensive, and it's hard to make fast flash memory small too. This is why cartridges are already way slower than the internal drive.
Nintendo was able to get away with eMMC-tier dogshit last gen, but the storage bandwidth demands of current gen games are a lot more costly.

>>729021267
Unironically just like the switch 2, once people realized there were no games they simply used it to play last gen games at better fidelity.

>>729021392
>its all I have to do.
lol ok keep fucking spamming your schizo theories like "everyone should return their switches NOW"

>>729021650
Third world education at its finest.

>>729021668
nowhere close to an argument

>>729021718
>snoys will buy anything with the ps logo

>>729021620
>The vocal minority meme
Okay retard

>>729021734
>once people realized there were no games they simply used it to play last gen games at better fidelity
Switch 2 isn't even very good at that, last gen games still run at 720p or worse in handheld.

I do not think the console is a failure, but I have zero desire to play anything on it. It's just collecting dust. I was genuinely excited for Mario Kart, which is why I bought the console, but it ended up being kind of terrible. Pretty fun to play, honestly, but Nintendo did everything in their power to force the awful transition tracks for GP that were just straightaways. I hear they finally went back on it, but in the sense that they remade the tracks rather than let people just play the tracks they want.

Didn't finish Bananza. It felt like shallow dopamine overdosing. The stage exploding, the music track changing constantly as you switch bananza forms, and OOH BANANA every fifteen seconds or so was just too much for me. I think I was in the gross fast food theme park level, or maybe a little after that, and I was just bored out of my mind.

I played ZA for like three hours. Was really disillusioned by there being no variety in the city and no ride pokemon.

I just have no reason to play the console and I'm disappointed by it.

>>729019116
>brings up browns
>brings up sucking dicks
>brings up reddit
Rent free

>>729021732
You're missing the point entirely. They ONLY released 64gb cards. Thats a huge fucking problem for everyone.

And now that prices are skyrocketing, they're releasing smaller capacity cards. Too little too late imo.

>>729021791
You never had one.

>>729021881
>They ONLY released 64gb cards.
Yeah, there's a technological reason for that.

>>728984318
Bombing hard this holiday. Turns out it was only the diehards buying it due to its easy availability and the normalfags and casuals that comprise 95% of Nintendo's audience don't give a shit. What a shame, lmao

>>729019170
>The only Wii U ports early on were Mario Kart and BoTW
Those did most of the heavy lifting. The rest wasn't much better than the Switch 2 launch.

>>729007485
They ported Ace Combat 7 on the Switch and it looked crazy good.
I think it's just a matter of time.

>>729021802
We had many download code-only releases on Switch 1, but suddenly a compromise for both the devs and consumers (with something you can still lend and resell) is bad because... you've simply been told to hate it ?
And don't give me that shit about "having the data on physical" since you can't do anything about it unless your system is jailbroken (and in this case, it doesn't matter the game is physical or digital) or that the majority of modern games require at least one patch for the intended experience. You can also fearmonger about download servers shutting down despite there has been no precedent of such thing, especially with Nintendo.

>>729005289
>next year is going to be even worse because of year late shittiest version of ports that nintendo cum guzzlers won't even buy, but will actively try to shitpost over
It sure will.

>>729021172
>spoiled
is this really the angle you want to take
don't make a handheld if you're going to use a screen so bad it's on par with a fucking psp
you can buy phones for half the price with an oled screen, nintendo with their much bigger economy of scale and being able to profit off software sales after selling you the console really has no excuse