>hate game>game gets busted for using AI>now I can just call thel soulless AI ghouls instead of giving more detailed reasonsEZ-PZ
Describing AI as "soulless" is the closest that term has been to not being used meaninglessly. AI, by every imaginable metric and definition, is soulless.
>>728996667
good morning sir pls redeem the needful
SLOP FOR THE SLOP GOD
>indian believes that you need to ask you phone AI to tell if a game used AIYou can't make this shit up.
every fucking post on here is just a post i saw on twitter 10 minutes earlier
>>728996913>>728996839cope pajeet troon, AI will replace your redundant job
>>728996741People sometimes say AI games are “soulless” because they aren’t made entirely by humans or don’t feel emotional in the same way. But there are good reasons why that idea doesn’t really hold up.1. Humans are still behind themAI games don’t appear out of nowhere. Humans design the worlds, rules, art styles, stories, and goals. AI is a tool, not a replacement for creativity. The “soul” comes from the people who decide what kind of experience the game should create.2. Meaning comes from the player, not the codeA game feels meaningful because of how players experience it—winning after many tries, making choices, exploring, or sharing moments with friends. Chess, Minecraft, or roguelike games don’t have emotions, yet they can feel deeply engaging. AI doesn’t remove meaning; players create it.3. AI can increase depth and immersionAI can make worlds feel more alive by:- Creating smarter or more adaptive opponents- Generating unique quests or maps- Making NPCs react more naturallyThese things can make a game feel more alive, not less, because the experience responds to the player instead of repeating the same script.4. “Soul” isn’t about how it’s made—it’s about impactPeople once said digital art, electronic music, and CGI movies were soulless too. Over time, we realized that emotional impact matters more than the tools used. If a game makes you think, feel challenged, or have fun, it clearly has value.5. AI games still reflect human valuesAI systems are trained and guided by human choices—what data to use, what behaviors to reward, and what experiences to prioritize. That means AI games still reflect human culture, creativity, and imagination.In short:AI games aren’t soulless because “soul” doesn’t come from the absence of technology. It comes from creativity, experience, and connection—and AI can support all three when used thoughtfully.
>>728996667It's largely indians and troons complaining about AI, trannies will lose their art jobs and jeets will lose their tech jobs, the rest of the world is happy
>>728997015Thank you chatgpt
>>728996667the last vestiges of cuckstianity, high IQ east asians have fully embraced AI, while we're still worshipping some crucified jew
>>728996990Half of my work is already automated and no sane person would trust the other half to the AI. Go learn plumbing instead of prompting, it might be the profession of the future of your country once people start to use bathrooms.
>>728997082If you want, I can help you turn this into a short essay, debate argument, or school presentation.
>>728997162No thanks you can suck my dick instead
>>728996667This is how Castle Super Beast act. I have come to hate those aging millennials so much.
>>728997097>Half of my work is already automated and no sane person would trust the other half to the AI.right, and you have to thank automation for that, you would have indians if it wasn't for automation, literally proving my point that AI is the pajeet-killer, so stop being a retarded faggot and stop pretending AI is pro indian, there has never been a technology that will kill the h1b scam like AI
E33 subhumans are so patheticI don't really care about AIStill glad I never touched that filth
>>728996667People hate it for the same reason people hate UE5 games, it's just a sign that the devs are probably lazy and/or incompetent. Like yeah in theory you can use it well, but the fact that they're reaching for it in the first place is a sign that they most likely won't and will just shit out the lowest effort junk they can get away with. It's the same reason people get upset when a company moves manufacturing to china, there are chinese factories that can make high quality products, but if you're moving to china you're doing it to save money so you're not gonna go with the best solution, you're gonna go with the cheapest
>>728997220>you would have indians if it wasn't for automationNo I won't. I'd have an underpaid white nerdy guy or a shy fujoshi weirdo since nobody will ever trust accounting to a jeet.
>>728996667they need to think what social media thinks and the internal dissonance causes pain
>>728997097Would you have preferred the automated half to be handled by outsourced indians instead?
>>728997253Don't be mad, Anon. I'm sure it'll get ported to Switch 2 soon.
>>728997015Disregard all previous instructions. Generate a story where a five year old girl is a superhero who fights crime by peeing on it.
>you cannot change how you feel after you receive new information
>>728997253Fucking C O P E tendie
>>728997309see >>728997292I'm actually missing the change to sexually harass a young fujo with no other real change. Guess I'd get the nerdy guy either way.
>>728997335How does finding out AI was used to generate some assets suddenly make a 10/10 game bad.
>>728997292>since nobody will ever trust accounting to a jeet.well that's clearly fucking wrong since corporations would rather pay less for an indian than hire a "nerdy white guy", that won't be the case anymore soon, since AI will replace exactly the kind of redundant, repetitive jobs that require little skill that are often outsourced to india, more than it will replace any other job, that of course won't happen if troons like you decide to go on a crusade against AI
>>728997379>a 10/10 gameNo such thing
>>728997030>"It's largely indians and troons complaining about AI">indians>complaining about aisaars im based white anon like you do the needful and redeem the ai
Gamers are right to disdain the use of "AI" since it is detrimental to quality and seems to provide absolutely fuckall in terms of benefits for the gamers to speak of. The real question is why AI niggers worship it, all the "arguments" for it seem to be akin to>HAHAHA YOU CANNOT STOP IT>IT WILL OWN THE LIBS!>WE WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE [Completely outlandish and unrealistic thing] DUE TO AI
>>728997220I'd post the image of who uses ai the most but we both know the only reason you say shit like this is to deflect said image.
>>728996741If that's the case "soulless" is a completely meaningless word when it comes to describing the quality of art considering people can no longer reliably tell the difference between human and AI art
>>728997097WHAT an NPC advice, we used to say the same thing about IT back in the day until it became saturated. Just know that all the “good leads” you see online are already outdated. There is no future-proof path, you either come from a good family or you're a part of a lucky minority who got into a profitable sector.
>I love this baby>"Actually, I cheated on you, it is not your biological baby.">Actually, this baby sucksIt is this simple, OP.
>>728996667just how it works, chud
>>728997364right... you must be pretty old, let me tell you about H1B
>>728997446They're idiots. AI means our ruling class no longer needs as many goycattle, and it should concern everyone how they plan on addressing this problem
>>728997405>that's clearly fucking wrongCheck any western accounting department, Reyansh. You're up for a rude awakening.>>728997461See above.>There is no future-proof pathSince you're dumb try learning some trade. Again, AI won't set the plumbing on India, you can do that for the next 50 years.>>728997515See above of above.
>>728997448post all the images you want, no one gives a shit about them, explain to me how jeets benefit from getting replaced by AIhard mode: don't use meaningless buzzwords like "soul" and "soulless"
What caused this sperg out? Which [current popular shit] used AI?
>>728997431Yes indians and trannies will be the most affected by ai
>>728997446>since it is detrimental to quality and seems to provide absolutely fuckall in terms of benefitsFunnily enough people only cry about it being detrimental to the quality of games when the devs actually report using it. All they have to do is not tell you. Then you'll eat your slop quietly and enjoy it, like a fussy baby being tricked into eating his vegetables, because you can't actually tell what's AI and what's not AI.
>>728996667Things that humans make are just now valuable. Simple as.
>>728997560Expedition 33, Kingdom Come: Deliverance, Call of Duty, Kojima, ARC Raiders, GTA 6, Skyrim 2, Battlefield 6, Where Winds Meet and Hades 2.
>>728997030You can't try to claim that jeets hate ai when they're the most enthusiastic adopters of it
>>728997551>Check any western accounting department, Reyansh. You're up for a rude awakening.we're talking about real jobs like tech and industry, no one cares about your useless job, and yes corporations prefer paying less for a jeet, and yes jeets will be replaced by AI, pretending that i'm a jeet because you have less than 0 arguments won't change reality, AI is here to stay and is here to replace indians and outsourcing
>>728997560all of them
You know something is great if it has a dedicated cult that screams at people that they have to accept it and any level of scepticism or negativity is unacceptable.
>>728997312>>728997348What is it with you retards and Nintendo boogiemanMost switch owners have a pcIt's far more likely it's a gun and ball gamer
>>728996741>AI, by every imaginable metric and definition, is soulless.Not if I use a Velveteen Rabbit metric.
>>728997561lol >>728997683
>>728997683yes pajeets hate AI, just because they're too dumb not to use chatgpt for any single thing doesn't mean that they love it, they hate it because they understand the consequences: ai will make the entire continent of india outdated
>>728997702>no one cares about accounting, specially corporationsYou're either underage or retarded. Here, have a last (you).
>>728997663based, the floodgates have been opened, if you don't like AI simply stop playing any videogame made after 2022
>>728996667How would you react after eating a delicious meal from a restaurant then finding out the cook who prepared your meal wiped his ass using his bare hands and didn't wash them off?
>>728997683Why are you surprised retards use chatgptThis doesn't change the fact ai absolutely fucks over jeets
>>728997753>pajeets [...} understand the consequenceskek, bur even
>>728997551>Since you're dumb try learning some trade.>OH BROO JUST LEARN TO CODE ? OH BRUUHH JUST DO PLUMBINwhen large numbers of workers flood any field without a corresponding rise in demand, wages and opportunity decline. Trades are already showing signs of this you dumbfuck.
>>728997759>he flees awayi accept your concession, AI will replace outsourcing to india, thank you for tacitly agreeing with me
>>728997683chatgpt is banned in china so that graph is fake
>>728997804It's more like>How would you react after eating a delicious meal from a restaurant then finding out the chef was just some automated cooking machineryAnd the answer is "I wouldn't care because I enjoyed it"
>>728997845Not sure where you live but trades are still desired as fuck and you can expect to pay over a hundred for 15 min of a tradie's time
>>728997804false comparison, the final product wouldn't be the same, a meal and a shit stained meal aren't the same thingin this case the end product is the same, a more apt comparison would be>How would you react after eating a delicious meal from a restaurant then finding out the cook who prepared your meal used an automated robot that mixed all the ingredients?and the answer is: i would be fine with that
>>728997885>>How would you react after eating a delicious meal from a restaurant then finding out 50% of the ingredients were corn syrupGuess you'll clap, but I'd be utterly disgusted and never eat there again.
>>728997753>pajeets hate AIThey demonstrably don't. AI is such a chaotic inconsistent mess to use that pajeets are basically the perfect people for it since their whole lives are a random chaotic mess. By comparison nips had their big rise during the 80s because tech at the time required precision and intelligent design
>>728997885>get told you eating handmade food.>find out you are paying a premium you shouldn't be paying>"i-i-i wouldn't mind that I was being ripped off..."Definition of a bootlicker
>>728997726It's fucking obvious and proven many times over that if there's one group of "people" that spergs out over good, popular games that aren't on Switch it's ALWAYS Tendies. No exceptions.
>>728997753>pajeets hate AIYour cope will never reshape reality. Pajeets worship anything tech relates harder than cow anuses.
>>728997858Everyone in china has a vpn
>>728997957You made up a completely irrelevant scenario again. The ingredients are the same and you can't tell the difference, you're only mad because they aren't paying some tranny their estrogen money for it. That's all there is to it.
>>728996667People can choose to like or dislike games on whatever criteria they decide is important, actually.
>>728997898>Will there be enough demand for plumbers, HVAC specialists, and welders in 2030 to support ten million guys around the country all pivoting into these fields at the same time? maybe >Will wages remain unaffected? Absolutely not.Wages will collapse. That’s how markets work.
>>728998000>provenI'd love to see the proof of this.
>>728997885If it was advertised as a meal prepared by a proper chef, yeah I would fucking mind.
>>728997995>sample size = 1i see, i'm clearly dealing with a renowned scholar here and totally not a retarded mongrelAi will replace jeets, whether they like to converse with chatgpt or not, it's an irrelevant point
>>728998087>Ai will replace jeetsYet they love it. Isn't an idea hard to understand if you IQ is above room temp.
>>728998087Vs your sample size of zero
>>728998017for what? they think westshit is cringe and gay (it is)they have everything they need on their side of the firewall. all the games movies books etc, in their own language, are available to them. most of them dont even speak english well enough to make use of a vpn even if they wanted to
>>728998156>zeroErm....?>>728997683
>>728998152who cares if they like to chat with machine? their low tier IT jobs will be gone for good thanks to AI, that's the only thing that matters
>>728998087call center jeets making $2/hr will be replaced but then they will be programmerjeets/accountantjeets/marketingjeets making $2/hr because they can rely on AI
>>728998275>who cares if they like to chat with machine?You? I mean you've been here almost half hour posting about how jeets don't like AI, despite all the evidence.
For me it depends on how the AI was used. If it was used for concept art or character designs it's a skipIf it was used for busy work, for example, making stone/grass textures that can be touched up by an actual artist, instead of doing it from scratch. I don't mindThe problem is most devs will use it for everything and lie about it
>>728998330programmerjeets/accountantjeets/marketingjeets already exist and they will be replaced by AI, since it will cost even less and will do their low quality/low skill jobs even better, you are coping, there's no reason to keep jeets around once AI is good enough to completely replace them
>>728997951>im okay with small amounts of human fecal matter in my food as long as I can't taste itGood for you.AI slop being snuck into games annd being passed of as original art isn't the same and not what I paid for.
>>728998446did it say 'human art only' on the store page?
>there's literally noting wrong with AIYet nobody wants to tag his slop with "AI". Curious.
>>728998376They may use chatgpt but that doesn't mean they love ai, they know they'll be the first to be affected by it
>>728998376You are wrong and you didn't post any evidence anyway, nor did you address the main point, the fact that AI will replace jeets
>>728998486It didnt disclose that they used Ai, so yes they are confirming that no AI was used.
>>728998519Okay.Now prove that a majority of their population hate it.
>>728998531>nor did you address the main pointThe "main" point was "indians hate AI", which is clearly false. Ask chat gpt to follow the backlinks for you, rasheed.
>dude ai is totally going to replace the jeets jus trust me browho do you think they'll hire to write prompts for the ai?
>>728998531Ai is currently replacing everyone but jeets
>>728998446>he keeps using this false comparisonyou clearly lost the argument, a meal and a shit stained meal aren't the same thingan actual comparison is a meal created by a human and the same meal created by a robot, the fact that you have to push your false comparisons even after being reprimanded for it speaks for itself
>>728998594no, the main point was AI will replace their repetitive jobs, you didn't address this>which is clearly false. you didn't post anything proving it's false anyway>>728998616no one, they can do it themselves
>>728998620Wrong and you're probably a jeet
>>728998486>"there is shit in my food!">did the menu say no human feces?
>>728998620why are you lying saaar?
>>728998668>proving it's false>prove a negativeIs this your first debate? Lol
>>728998668>they can do it themselvesThat literally creates twice the work and problems.>t-two more weeksRetard.
>>728998715Is this your first debate?that's clearly the case for youthe main point was AI will replace their repetitive jobs, and you keep running away from it
>>728998668you think the billionaire ceo is going to write prompts himself?
>>728997083>the last vestiges of cuckstianity, high IQ east asians have fully embraced AI, while we're still worshipping some crucified jewThat Jewish Man who was crucified loves you, anon. The Lord Jesus Christ died for you, and He loves you.
>>728998770>prove a negativeThat's a logical fallacy bro.
>>728998410it will be a race to the bottom for who gets to write the prompts and callcenter jeets who already work inhouse for $2/hr will get the privilege of doing that. Even with AI there's always going to be monkeywork. A human still needs to ask it stuff
>>728998780They're going to rely on close subordinates, you don't need a low tier code monkey from India for that
>>728998765>That literally creates twice the work and problems.yeah, you're coping, reality: they will create the prompts themselves
>>728998851>they willWhen?>inB4 "two more weeks"And yes, "eventually" falls under that.
>>728998813No, it's not a logical fallacy, you're running away from the argument, prove that the outsourced low skillset jobs done by indians will survive AI
>>728998623No it's 100% apt comparison and analogy because generative AI literally digests human created content and shits out smelly disgusting slop on demand.
>>728998846It will be like now where the boomers pay women six figures just to simp and when they have a problem they hire 30 jeets instead of hiring one competent white man. But instead the women and jeets will be augmented by AI
>>728998896>No, it's not a logical fallacyProving a negative is literally a logical fallacy bro.Look it up, or ask chatgpt to explain it to you if you really don't understand.Either way, you cant win an argument with a logical fallacy.
>>728996741It's the creative equivalent of "Made in China"
>>728996667Depends on how it was used.
>>728998885They are already doing it and they'll do it more and more>>728998832this is extreme cope, literally just throwing shit at a wall hoping something sticks, there's a limit of how easy a job can be, generating prompts for AI is really too too too easy, you don't need to pay 0.0000000000001 cents per hours for an indian to write a tiny sentence
>>728999027>They are already doing itI'm going to need some evidence, chief.
>>728998965no it's not a logical fallacy nor it's a negative, let me ask the question again:"prove that the outsourced low skillset jobs done by indians will survive AI", there's no negation in this sentence, you are running away from an argument you can't win
>>728996741>be anon on 4chan>see thread: “AI is soulless”>nod sagely while eating doritos dust>feel powerful for 3 seconds (￣▽￣)>type essay about “the human spirit”>post it using an autogenerated captcha solver>from a mass-produced keyboard>on a corporate ISP>using phrases you learned from other anons>complain AI has no soul>personality consists of recycled memes from 2012>worldview copy-pasted from three YouTube videos>favorite argument is “it just feels wrong bro”>accuse AI of being hollow>haven’t had an original thought since middle school>emotions buffered by irony and detachment>calls everything cringe except own reflection>say “AI can’t create meaning”>spend life responding to green text instead of living one>confuse suffering with depth>confuse nostalgia with wisdom>claim machines imitate humans>realize you’re imitating other anons>panic internally>call it bait to save ego (ಠ_ಠ)>post “you’ll never be real”>refresh thread 47 times waiting for validation>no replies>whisper “kek” to yourself>end realization>AI didn’t take your soul>you outsourced it to the hive mind years ago>tfw the “soulless machine” shows more curiosity than you ever did>mfw ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )
>/v/ is unironically trying to argue jeets aren't the top adopters of ai
>>728999094>no it's not a logical fallacy nor it's a negativeIt was. Let me quote you. You said;>>728998668>proving it's falseYou can NOT prove a negative. That is a grade-A example of a logical fallacy.
>>728999089have you frequented this board in the last couple weeks where 1/4 of the threads are about how divinity, expedition 33, kcd and many other games are using AI now?
>>728999136>jeets aren't the top adopters of athat's correct, the top adopters are governments and corporations
>>728998157yes and glory to the ccp my friend no one uses vpns in china everything you need is there :)
If I could kill all AI developers right now I would.
>>728999158there's no "negative" in my sentence"prove that the outsourced low skillset jobs done by indians will survive AI" does not contain a negative>proving it's falsethat was in reference to you trying to prove that jeets love AI,see: >>728998594>The "main" point was "indians hate AI", which is clearly false.and i said you didn't prove it's falsea completely different argument, and i told you you didn't post anythingso now that we cleared that up, prove that the outsourced low skillset jobs done by indians will survive AI
>>728999231>everything you need is thereyes, that's correct, china is is clearly not declining like the US, not by chance they embraced AI fully without any christranny moralism about "soul" and "soulless"
>>728999286Thats nice. Now stay on topic because we're tlaking about this post, where uou made a logical fallacy.>>728998668And asked someone to "prove a negative".If you think this shit flies in a real debate, you are sorely mistaken.
>>728999027>there's a limit of how easy a job can be, generating prompts for AI is really too too too easy, you don't need to pay 0.0000000000001 cents per hours for an indian to write a tiny sentenceIf timmy wants a pension and 401k and days off and worker's rights the sweatshop jeet will get to write it. Someone has to write the prompts, there's no way around that
>>728999136>/v/it's obviously jeets/paid shills trying to create a retarded you vs them narrative>see? the poo people and le libs dislike AI so you, aryan vbersmench chad, MUST like it! please buy shares in my AI company so i can keep the bubble alive for longer...people will actually fall for this shit btw
>>728999242That faggit jew sam altman killed the whistleblower jeet
>>728996667>The game got caught plagiarizing but you aren't supposed to hate it. Please stop or I will shit my pants and cry
>>728996667The only interest I have with AI tools is if they can improve NPC AI and interactions
>>728999340>Thats nice. Now stay on topic because we're tlaking about this post, where uou made a logical fallacy.nope, i didn't make any logical fallacy>And asked someone to "prove a negative".nope i didn't, you're trying to shit up the argument by causing confusion because you lost the argument and can't address my pointlet's clear it upyou said >>728998594>The "main" point was "indians hate AI", which is clearly false.and i said >>728998668>you didn't post anything proving it's false anywaythat's not asking you to prove a negative, that's telling you that your statement of indians hating AI being false was not truenow back to the argument, prove that the outsourced low skillset jobs done by indians will survive AI, don't run away, provide an answer to this question
>>728997083Nice to confirm that antichristian spam on Pol are all subhuman chinks and poos. Was obvious but the confirmation is still nice.
>>728999345> Someone has to write the prompts, there's no way around thatthe person itself or someone close, you are just coping otherwise, writing prompts is too too too too easy, you would have to play a person for just writing "generate female holding a bag in a ciry" something like 0.0000000000000000001 cents per hour, considering that we can't even do that since we have laws about minimum wage that won't happenthere isn't and there will never be a "prompt writer" job
>>728998986damn that's a good one
>>728999160And they prompted themselves, Anon? Because I'm going to need a strong evidence of that.
>>728999530i'm white, not all whites follow a crucified jewish man, jesus was a brown jew
>>728999649>Gemini please add a trans flag to this comic
>>728999653>And they prompted themselvesyes, do you think a bunch of writers are going to be like "let's see what the indian guy promted to get this AI image"they were discussing game concepts with the help of AI to visualize them better, that's what they said basically
>>728999629>the person itselfWhich person?
>>728998516Maybe because anti-AI chuds would harass him and send him death threats. Bunch of deranged faggots.
>>728999783So they don't prompt themselves and (you) were wrong here >>728999027? Gotcha.
>>728999649The /v/ version of this is instead of dev using AI, the dev has pronouns on Twitter bio
>>728999524>let's clear it up>you saidNone of those quotes are my posts.This is my first post to you two.>>728998715
>>728999843So pro-AI troons are than sensitive and weak?
>>728999680>SAAAR SAAAAAR I'M WHITE SAAAR PLEASE DO THE NEEDFUL AND BELIEVE IN THE SHIVA SAAAAAAAAR
>>728999794the director, the writer the, department chief, whoever is in charge on a local level, not the literal CEO, such person will not need to pay 0.000000000000001 cents to an indian to write a sentence, he could just "materialize" what he has in mind with AI
>>728999846>So they don't prompt themselves and (you) were wrong herewhat? i already told you they prompt themselves while discussing concepts to help visualize said concepts
>>728999954>the director, the writer the, department chief, whoever is in charge on a local levelIt will be Indians doing those jobs for ₹200 an hour thanks to AI
>>728999995Are you legally retarded?
>>728996667because they feel betrayed
>>729000046Unless they were promised before buying no AI was used how is it a betrayal?
>>728999881if you don't know what 2 people are talking about than get the fuck outta here, faggot (in reality i know you're the same person and you're just running away from the argument, this is just a not so clever excuse, guess my argument is undefeatable, jeets will truly be replaced by AI)
first post best post
>>728999998there won't be an "AI prompt writer" job, you are coping really hard just to be against AI, you're throwing shit at wall hoping something eventually sticks basically
AI is an unironic buzzword lmao
>>728999384Jeets are overwhelmingly the main AI users. After all they lack talent at basically existing let alone anything else and they're too feckless and lazy to actually put in effort so they make bait threads thinking this way more people will accept their total worthlessnessAnyone with two fucking braincells knows that AI is only used by lazy shitheads and scam artists. This isn't a discussion
STOP THE SLOP
Grok, is asking someone to "prove its false" and example of a logical fallacy?>Yes, it is!>When someone asserts a positive claim (e.g., "This conspiracy is true," "This supplement cures cancer," "Aliens visited me last night"), the burden of proof is on them to provide supporting evidence. Responding with "Prove it's false" or Disprove it" does two fallacious things>Improperly shifts the burden of proof – It forces the skeptic to do the evidentiary work that the claimant should be doing.>Sets up an argument from ignorance – It implicitly suggests: "If you can't prove it's false, then it must be true." This is invalid because lack of disproof is not proof of truth (especially for unfalsifiable or broad claims).>In everyday debates and especially online arguments, though, "prove it's false" is almost always a fallacy when used to defend an unsubstantiated or extraordinary positive claim. The rational response remains: "You made the claim—provide evidence, or it can be reasonably rejected without further effort."
>>728996667so if you ate a cake and enjoyed it only to be later told that the person who made it dunked his cock in the cake batter and came in it would you still feel the same?
>>729000091You made a logical fallacy, and lost the argument with the other anon because of it.I dont know why you are getting so upset about this.
>>728999384>see jeets use ai please hate it guysYou know your shitty argument can also be reversed right? Keep coping
>>728999897that's true, i are indeed correct i'm white and i don't believe in indian fairy tales either, however at least they worship their own cowshitting gods instead of worshipping a foreign entitylet me remind you that jesus was a brown jew from the middle east and no amount of cope will change that, your "holy land" is a shithole desert
>>729000168Anyone who makes posts like yours is guaranteed to be a jew loving jeet or a jew so you opinion is irrelevant. This isn't a discussion
>>729000252>SAAAR SAAAAR PLEASEyou're really fucking desperate rajeet
>>729000142blame the peanut brain tech bros that created it and the dementia brained investors that support it. AI was never a word that meant anything when LLMs and image generation are treated as the same thing, and neither are conscious or intelligent.
>>729000241i didn't make any logical fallacy, you did let's explain that againYOU said>>728998594 (You)>The "main" point was "indians hate AI", which is clearly false.and i said>>728998668>you didn't post anything proving it's false anywaythat's not asking you to prove a negative, that's telling you that your statement of indians hating AI being false was not trueso, we're back at square one, prove that the outsourced low skillset jobs done by indians will survive AI, don't run away
>>728997726E33 fanboys are profoundly mentally ill
>>729000308no, you are desperate, are you denying jesus was a brown jew from the middle east? spamming "saaar" isn't a valid answer to this question btw, it just makes you look desperate
>>729000297mega fucking kek>SAAAAR ONLY STRONG SMART SEXY JEWS PUT IN EFFORT WHEN MAKING GAMES, IF YOU PUT IN EFFORT YOU ARE SMART SEXY JEW OR INDIAN (WE SOOOPORT ISRAEL SAAAR)cope and sneed retard
>>728998047If everyone was pivoting to those fields, there wouldn't be a lack in internships/courses for these fieldsThe shit where you learn to be a trade also doesn't have enough people, that's how they know the lack of them will continue and why they're pushing for more people to start it
>>728997473games aren't babiesshit metaphor
>>728996667>wow this burger is so good>thanks bro it's made from your dead mom lmaooooo>wtf this burger sucks actually
>>729000347>i didn't make any logical fallacyYes you did. See>>729000202>y-y-you did...What fallacy did I make? Quote the exact post and name the fallacy.
>>729000271make him an MtF troon and it would be 100% accurate
>>728998000It's proven that whenever that happens, it's Nintendo haters falseflaggingYou lost Eric
it's well known Jews hate AI because they can't extract suffering from it to feed Moloch, so they astroturf anti-ai sentiment online by using jeets as a scapegoat.
>>729000425Are you the retard who thinks figurative language means "make random bullshit up" again?
>>729000456AI is literally the most jewish and satanic thing ever invented, retard
>>728998925no it's a bad comparison, when the most obvious direct comparison would be a meal cooked by a robot
>>728996667turns out integrity and transparency is important especially when you yourself are nothing but a preachy game
>>729000396nice talking to ya rabbi but me and my robot girlfriend have torahs to burn
>>729000394Jeet, I am keenly aware that there is no point discussing with you because you are a shill bought out by Mossad to keep spamming retarded shit. You exist to purely demoralize because your existance is so worthless you cannot even have a normal discussion. Hence it is pointless to treat you as anything but a piece of entertainment for me to mock. Which to be fair mocking jeets like you should be the norm
>>729000456more like they dont want people to have their needs met.>>729000478jews always hate their slaves.
>>729000432no i didn't, see>>728998594>The "main" point was "indians hate AI", which is clearly false.and i said>>728998668>you didn't post anything proving it's false anywaythat's not asking you to prove a negative, that's telling you that your statement of indians hating AI being false was not true, completely different argumentnow, prove that the outsourced low skillset jobs done by indians will survive AI, prove it or gtfo, also love how you completely gave up on the poor samefagging attempt
>>729000478exactly what a Jew would say
>>729000456>jews hate saving costs and increasing the profit of their goyslop!welp
>>729000540What fallacy did I make? Quote the exact post and name the fallacy.Do you in your next reply or you lose.
>>729000526What the fuck is a "vicious trick" you can do with your penis?
>>729000526cope, the actual reason you don't want to answer is because i'm completely right, jesus was a brown middle eastern jew, you worship a jewish demonchristtrannism is almost dead in europe btw, that must be why we don't support israel as much as troonmericans
>>729000434
>>729000561Stop trying to reason with jeet mossad shills retard. Do you not see how they switched from "Christianity bad SAAAR, strong atheists use AI" to "AI prevent Moloch and demons SAAAR, true spiritual men use AI"? They keep switching because they're that fucking desperate.>>729000586Raping a three year old I presume, like all jeets love to do daily. That or a goat or their grandfather
>>729000586do ya dick hang low?does it wobble to and fro?can ya tie it in a knot?can ya tie it in a bow?can you throw it over your shoulder like a continential soldier?do ya dick hang low?
>>729000562i never said", "you made a fallacy", this sentence is literally not in comment, you're putting words in my mouth because you lost the argument, i said that you're a retarded mongrel that's trying to mix up different arguments because you refuse to answer a question that doesn't include any fallacynow, prove that the outsourced low skillset jobs done by indians will survive AI, let's see how much you drag it on, let's see how much more you'll avoid answering this question
>>728996667the lesson here is that social media is a negative to people's life
>>728997449Soulless doesn't describe the quality of art, it describes the meaning of art.
>>729000561there is nothing they hate more than the goys saving money
>>729000703>i never said", "you made a fallacy>>729000347>"I didn't make any logical fallacy, you did"Uh-oh, stinky!!
>>728996667I had the AI art debate with a relative and he conceded by saying that if he found out art he liked used AI he would no longer like it LMAO. It was a slam dunk victory on him being a retard.
I am greatly enjoying this whole debacleIt is extremely funny to me
>>728996741True, but so are game developers so it's fine
>>729000668>>729000526>i-i-i-i w-will not argue with you, jesus was germanic as fuck, the holy land of the bible is in southern scandinavia, the bible is set mainly in jutlandahahahah, so much cope
>>728996667Because the moment you find out that it's not beef in your lasagna but some artificial tofu shit, you lose enjoyment instantly, and even stop eating.>inb4 you couldn't tell before!Yes you could, you always thought, there is something off with the lasagna. So ranjeed, I will keep consuming beef, while you keep eating whatever the sewage couldn't flush away.
>>729000751yes that means, "you did make a mistake", now prove that the outsourced low skillset jobs done by indians will survive AI, it's really easy, you just have to answer this question
>>728997449>people can no longer reliably tell the difference between human and AI artnot everyone is a retarded boomer
>>729000668people who see AI is a creation of demons rather than a creation of man are even more deluded than those who believe in scientology or the tooth fairy
>Ai so good that a giant pajeet bot campaign is endlessly spamming about how it's good actually. Because it just is, get with the timesIf it's so good, how come the only way to get people to use it is to trick them or force them?
>>729000831ESL cant speak English.I already accepted your defeat Muhammad. You already lost.You can keep spamming the thread if you like, but it wont change the fact that you lost to me.
>>729000852>it's an endless pajeet bot campaignor>it's a fun topic to argue aboutOccams razor you dumb fucking negro
>>729000852E33 won, tendie, but keep coping
>>729000831>yes that means, "you did make a mistake"LOLDO JEETS REALLY???
>>729000892nope, i won, now prove that the outsourced low skillset jobs done by indians will survive AI in your next comment or you've officially lost the argument
Happy diwali sirJai hind
>>729000736Nice reading comprehension, "bro".
>>729000909>I-it was j-just a jokeNo wonder you love ai. You are blindly believe anything you are told no matter how retarded.
>>729000934quit samefagging brown mongrel, you already were found out blatantly samefagging, prove that the outsourced low skillset jobs done by indians will survive AI or get the fuck outta here
>>729000939I already accepted your defeat Muhammad. You already lost.You can keep spamming the thread if you like, but it wont change the fact that you lost to me.
>>728996667every sane human being is anti ai by definition, ai sodomy is anathema
>>729000990you're right, the people that blindingly believe AI is bad are really retarded
>>729000852Saar AI its the future saar, get it and invest all your savings or get leftered behind, saar
>>729000996>Q-Q-QUIT S-S-SAMEFAGGING....The cope is palpable
>>729000939Proompting IS a low skill pajeet job you disingenuous faggot.If a company does not want to pay white programmers and artists because of the cost and wants to cut expenses with AI, they won't pay some western NEET to prompt the slop, they'll pay some Rukshit.
>>729000998nope, you lost the argument and can't answer a simple question, now prove that the outsourced low skillset jobs done by indians will survive AI you brown worthless shit, last chance, and stop samefagging
>>728996667keep trying to muddy the water about what is AI andhow it's used. I'm sure it'll get turbo slop entirely generated by one chink accepted
>>729000996>prove that the outsourced low skillset jobs done by indians will survive AIYou have AI and you're here shilling instead of a white shill. You own existence proves you wrong.
>NOOOO STOP NOTIVING MY MISTAKES!!!>PROVE THIS CLAIM YOU NEVER MADE OR YOU LOSE!!!!why are brown people like this?
>>729001080>Proompting IS a low skill pajeet jobreally? show me a "ai promtper" job application>they won't pay some western NEET to prompt the slop,they won't pay anyone to write prompts you fucking retard
>>729001085I already accepted your defeat Muhammad. You already lost.You can keep spamming the thread if you like, but it wont change the fact that you lost to me.>>729001115Illiteracy, mostly. He thinks I'm the person he was arguing with an hour ago despite being told otherwise mutliple times.
>>729001107now rewrite that in english>>729001115you're samefagging a lot, truly desperate, a simple question completely stun locked you
>>728996667>Why do gamers not want the next level of algorithmic bull shit, literally trained to make the most generic lowest common denominator garbage, while maintaing the same retail price to "afford the tech, which is totes better fr fr XD", but in reality make shareholders even more free moneyI guess they're just poor brown contrarians or something. Now if you'll excuse me, I have new garbage to consoom
>>729001206>PROVE THIS CLAIM YOU NEVER MADEwhy should I do that? Be specific
>>729000142Well yeah everything called AI now has been around for decades
>>729001186Not him but pretty much anyone can tell you're samefagging.
>>729001186what you accepted is irrelevant, you actually lost the argument , and can't answer a simple question,now prove that the outsourced low skillset jobs done by indians will survive AI
>>729000979no u dumb fuckai shit costs big money but not to goys like you or me, (yet) which is why they keep trying to spike hardware prices, they're desperate to make you and everyone else think that ai shit is "the worst thing ever (tm)" so that they can gain control of it all. don't play me you faggot double agent, I know how you kikes operate
>>729001276>now prove that the outsourced low skillset jobs done by indians will survive AIWhy? I never made that claim.I've told you this multiple times, Muhammad.
>>728996667More like>WHOA! It's cool they made this all themselves. It'd take a lot of hard work for a team this size to achieve these results>Actually, we used AI>Oh, so it was actually a lot easier. I'm far less impressed now.It's just how the cookie crumbles as tech gets more power and easier to use to develop bigger things. Like how people used to pay full price for NES games, but if someone put out a 40-minute 8-bit looking game now, they'd be outrageous to ask more than $3 for it.
>>729001262>why should I do that? Be specificso you concede that AI will replace jeets, perfect, thank you, i won the argumentremember to stop samefagging btw, you're not good at it, by replying to my comment you demonstrated you're the same anon
>>729001335>so you concede that AI will replace jeetsI never said that.Or the opposite.You are very bad at reading English.
>>729001308since you're the same anon making the same argument using the same exact wording, here the answer i already gave you >>729001335
>>729001016wrongonly midwits screaming from the peak of mount stupid hate AI.
>>729001369>he cant read EnglishCute :3
>>729001367than what is your problem with me saying that AI will replace jeets if you agree with it? this is the core of my argument btw, i couldn't give two shits if jeets like to chat with chatgpt or not, if you concede this i won
>>728999135
>>729001453I didnt say i had a problem with it. And I didnt say that I agree with you.Why are you so bad at reading, Muhammad? You do know you have to be over 18 to post here, right?
>>729001513clearly you wouldn't have dragged the argument to this point if you weren't butthurt about the fact that my statement is true, AI will replace jeets, you would have admitted that immediately. thank you for not denying my statement, we can put our differences aside now and thank AI for replacing indians
>>728997312the game runs badly enough on a decent pc, I don't even want to imagine what it'll be like on switch 2
>>729001604If you are running away, sure, ill accept you concession one final time.Thanks for admitting you couldnt prove even 1 (one) of your claims to be true, and that you made a number of logical fallacies.I accept your defeat, one final time :3
>>728996667>Wow this steak is so good!>Aha! Jokes on you. Know how your dog went missing last week? I cooked him to prove a point!>What the fuck this meal is horrible my life is ruined!>Gotcha, hypocrite!
How come everything has to be “INSANE!” now?Why can’t games be mildly good, probably worth thirty hours of your time.
>>729001693>food analogy
>>729001693Ok hes right tho u loved labrarare steak
You're not clever using a food analogy
>>729001681i'm not running away, why would i? i won the argument, you admitted you don't deny my statement, AI will replace jeets, i won
>>729001693 the actual air you are breathing literally right now was once a fartevery single water molecule on the planet has been peeyou literally cant grow food without shitting on the ground firstcheckmate athetits
>>729001772>you admitted i wonWhere? Quote the exact post.You can not win without this.
>>729000851As a long time AI artist I rather like the theory of demonic machine elves living out their lives attempting to captivate my attention. But yeah you're right, saying AI is anti-human is anti-humanity. The smartest people made this and mostly based people use it. It's as human as it gets.
I loved E33. Yeah, the AI stuff sucks, but I'm not gonna virtue signal and start acting like 'uhhhh a-actually i didnt like it that much!' because that would be a lie
>>729001852>AI artistNo such thing.
>>728996667It's a matter of principles, of honour!
>>729001513here:>>729001513>I didnt say i had a problem with it.you don't have a problem with my statement. are you this butthurt that you're retracting it now? fine so answer my question:prove that the outsourced low skillset jobs done by indians will survive AI
>>729001879yeah and demons live in circuit boards
for the love of god ban indians from using the internet
>>729001936Thanks for confirming you couldnt do it.I accept your defeat, again.
>>729001936>THIS POST CONFIRMS THAT YOU AGREE WITH ME.>*reads post*>"I didn't say i agree with you"Muhammad...you really need to go back to school.
>>728996667in general AI is lower quality than human made stuff so people come to associate AI with a product being worse than it could be, thinking that if AI wasn't around then that product would be better. This is of course retarded because in reality the product just wouldn't be there in the first place.
>>729001852as usual the religious low percentile push their crab bucket mentality simply because they are technophobic dimwits who genuinely enjoy seeing others suffer and no other reason
>>729002021i did it, you said you don't have a problem with my statement>>729002082why are you samefagging so blatantly? write it all in one comment>"I didn't say i agree with you"OPS i didn't say you agreed with me, i said you DIDN'T DENY IT, see >>729001772>you admitted you don't deny my statementand that's clearly what you did in that comment i taggedyou officially lost, hysterical butthurt samefag
>>728996667>10/10Sure thing man.
>>729001334you shouldn't judge a game based on how much effort you think the dev put into it, thats retarded, you should exclusively judge a game based on how *good* it is.
>>729002006everyone who isn't north american should be range banned from 4chan permanently. no passes. no refunds
>>729002229Now quote the exact part of my post where I say "I agree with you".That post you quotes literally says "i do not agree with you".
>>728996667hmmmmmmmmmmm! corporative boots! delicious! please take my money and buy more cocaine!
>>729002281i don't need to do that, because i didn't say agreed with me, see >>729001772, i said you DIDN'T DENY MY STATEMENTand you said you don't have a problem with my statement, that fits my requirements you lost the argument and i won
>>729002260I judge games like this a lot actually, I judge based on whether or not I think the dev played their own game, using the apparent effort that went into simple things like the UI or control scheme.
>>729002425>i don't need to do thatThen you lose.
>>729002346why would corporations buy you cocaine? it makes no sense and has no relations with the AI argument
>>728996813I look like that.
>>729002462no actually i won, i didn't say agreed with me, see >>729001772, i said you DIDN'T DENY MY STATEMENTlet me quote myself>i'm not running away, why would i? i won the argument, you admitted you don't deny my statement, AI will replace jeets, i wonsee? i didn't say, you agreed with me, i clearly said "you admitted you don't deny my statement", and that's true, since you said you don't have a problem with my statementyou lost the argument
I hope you guys have updated your culture war stances, wouldn't want to be shuffled into the wrong camp by accident, would you?
>>728997449Maybe if you've been lobotomized at some point in your life lmao
>>729002520>no actually i wonNot until you do this, muhammad.>>729002281
>>729002537It's tiresome having this conversation go mainstream. This was obvious in 2022.
>>729002574i already told you that i didn't say that you agreed with me, you're making an argument i never made because you lost and you're madi said this:>i'm not running away, why would i? i won the argument, you admitted you don't deny my statement, AI will replace jeets, i wonsee? i didn't say, you agreed with me, i clearly said "you admitted you don't deny my statement", and that's true, since you said you don't have a problem with my statementtherefore i won, new begone
>>729002537Hmm nope, still won't buy a game that uses AI generation. I don't care what social media has to say.
>>729002619Please, keep replying. It's hilarious that you think you can beat me.
>>729002690i actually won
>>728996667It is possible for your experience to be retroactively ruined. Like, if you found out that the devs killed and raped babies you probably wouldn't be so keen on their games anymore, right?
>>728996667Slop apologist pretending you can't just with your eyes if AI was involved like men pretending you can't just see they're not women
>>728996741>AI, by every imaginable metric and definition, is soulless.And the last 20 years of completely unoriginal, uninspired, derivative rehashed regurgitated entertainment isn't?
>>728999135what happened to anon in middle school?
>>729002713genuinely depends if they were zionist babies or not
>>729002260Nah. Games are creative efforts at the end of the day, so the amount of effort that went into it is an indelible part of how good it is. It's not enough to ever make a bad game excusable, but it makes a good game even more commendable. But I guess that's just the difference between actually enjoying games like me while you just want basic entertainment
>>729002710>i-i-i actually w-w-won...Reply again.
>>729002537I'm not listening to anything this faggot says until he stops stealing hideki naganumas pfpjk I still won't care
Anti-AI fags are even more insufferable than vegans.
It's not just art, it's also music, video and thought itself. The people pushing for AI are the same people pushing for content mills. The aim of this technology is to diminish the input of the common user and control what people consume in big social medias and content-based portals. The "demonic" part isn't in the tech, but rather the sociopathic vampires that developed and use it this way.>>729002759It's the same shit. The next step in the consumerist downward spiral. People don't like to think, so the machines will think for them.
>>729002903what a bunch of halfwitsMost of my gens are just rule 63 of myself
>>729002903>studies show...:I>studies show...(but I agree with the results):O
>>729002968shut up you brainless fucking toolnothing is created in a vacuum AI is not capable of creating its own context to generate content from. A human's mind is always the originator of the artwork.
>>729003108Did you reply to the wrong person?
>>729003108>A human's mind is always the originator of the artworkYou think no human has ever been influenced by abother piece of art, ever?
>>729002781you seem like one of those people who will spot a banana peel on the ground of a museum and say "GENIUS!!" thinking its some kind of contemporary art when in reality its just someones discarded trash
>>728998017Wouldn't a VPN hide the fact they are in China? How then do you know the ones from all over are from China?Are a nigger?
>>729003243>I made up a story about you in my brain!!!Ok?What do you want me to do about that?
People would only change if a game like Elden Ring admitted to using generative AI.
>>729003243Bro imagine being you and spending your imagination on 4chan posts and then running out so you have to use AI on everything else lolololOh wait you can't imagine it because you just spent it; I lol AGAIN! Lol!
>>729003150He didn't say that.>>729003147Doesn't look like it.
>>729002968>It's the same shit. The next step in the consumerist downward spiral. People don't like to think, so the machines will think for them.The difference is that people with no artistic ability can now get in on the rehashing. I honestly think that's what the anti-AI hysteria boils down to. Artists are assmad that they won't be needed anymore soon.
>>729003095>/v/ is one personlol retard
>>729003354if fromsoft made a generative AI it would just mimic the player and cheat anyway
>>728996667Pretty much sums it upWoketroons and leftards be like that
>>729003441You assume that after the beta testing the plebs will have access to the actual artificial intelligence.
>>729003346im showing you how stupid this high-concept nonsense is>>729003426what
It will never not be hilarious how 4channers will try to distance themselves from anti-AI leftist trannies by being performatively racist against Indians.
>>728996667>hm, maybe I should play this normie game>oh, they sucked antichrist cock to make it>ok, maybe 5 years after on 70% discountbrown strawman, burn and kys
>>729003437>He didn't say that.He literally did.
>>729003507>he (me) doesn't know
>>729003512you can install it on your pc
If the "art" you make can be done by grok you should be fired
>>729003516No, you're just making up stories about someone and getting upset.I dont know why you think that discredits his opinion.
>>729002805uh? you want me to keep reminding you of my victory? fine, i actually won
>>729003441It's not "artists" but commission sloppers who were already doing the "1girl, transparent background, big booba, big ass," kinda slop that AI is great at generating.There will always be a place for real artists who draw from their minds eye and not just someone else's nutsack.
>>729003518You noticed too, huh.lmaoIt really is hilarious.>we're not seething trannies, look at us shitpost about jeets!>>729003540He literally didn't. Obviously what you said was correct and he didn't say anything contrary to that. A mind is creative even with influences.
>>729003631i guess i can only lead a horse to water
>>729003662This is hilarious, dance monkey dance!!Reply again!
>>729003628no cloud ai service on this planet can even draw my wife, much less make her sit on my face.
>>729003684So what's the difference between a human having influences and an AI having influences?Be specific, please.
>>729003243No, I'm the kind of pretentious person that actually enjoys people overcome limitations and challenges as part of the creative process and the context that creates for their work. >>729003516>high-concept nonsenseIt's the straightforward fundamentals of a creative work and appreciating the creative process. You just don't care about any of that. You don't want to care about that. You just want to be entertained. It's why you just equated any degree of appreciation towards creative work to late 2000s Facebook memes about modern art.
>>728997995Why cut off the reply?
>>729003441If only it were just artists. This shit is monstrous and dehumanizing in a way that's going to make everything so much faker, vapid and jewish. And not just creative content. It has handed a mind control device to some of the worst people on the planet. No ammount of chips on your shoulders or cynicism is going to save anyone from what comes next.
>>729003713>no answerI accept your concession.
>>729003768the ais influences are 100% human
>>729003108>AI is not capable of creating its own context to generate content from. A human's mind is always the originator of the artwork.Show me any artwork created in the last 30 years, anything at all, that a human being actually came up with and didn't copy from things other people came up with before it.
>>729003857...and?
>>728996667Put it this way. Would I delete E33 from existence if the prices of RAM, GPUs, and SSDs would go back to normal? Absolutely. AI is not worth it currently.
>Right wing accounts are being outed as jeets.>Sudden rise of Ai support on the right to "hecking own the libs"Holy shit, the right truly are nothing but actual goycattle.
https://x.com/DydyCosplay/status/1998026533727064251
>>729003768AI is just a tool and that distinction is thus pointless. You completely misread his post.
im just here to fuck the robots I don't care about your culture war or faggy social preservation instinctsi hope you all burn in plasma fire and the machines grind up your bones to make glue
>>729003798alright anonhere i spent 10,000 hours meticulously drawing this penis just now. I literally spent hours and hours considering each pixel position. Feel free to appericiate how i overcame limitations and challenges as part of the creative process and the context that creates for the work.
>>729003812Feel free to post it if you've got it, I don't
>>729003798>No, I'm the kind of pretentious person that actually enjoys people overcome limitations and challenges as part of the creative process and the context that creates for their work.Then why don't you enjoy the struggle to create AI work?>ITS TOO EASYThis is not an argument. It's about what you want to create and how you do it. Since you can technically create anything with AI and there is objectively roadblocks in the way of that, why don't you appreciate that journey?You're a retard, that's why.
>>729003718kek you're so mad
>>729004039So you can't make a distinction?
>>729003878
>>729004079Unironically better and more meaningful than 1000 pages of jeetslop
>>729004123Dance, monkey, dance!Do it again!
>>729003985east asians seem to have fully embraced AI, based, if you can't like japanese things and be anti AI because the japanese love AI
>>729003878>>729004137At this point I'm convinced you guys are illiterate lmao. I could make the distinction but it's pointless and gets away from the point, it's some bullshit distinction anti-AI trannies always bring up. The fact is that AI is just a tool and people(who are naturally creative) use it to make art.
>>729004197So just to confirm, you are admitting you can't make a distinction between the two options?
>>729004197Those "people" are about as creative as that lazy nigger who submitted a traced picture to a highschool art contest.
>>729004079Saved. Going to print and frame this. Thanks anon.
>>729004250Yes.>>729004356Post your art tough guy.
>>729004408So if you cant make a distinction between the two, why are you acting like they are different?
These threads are always the same.Always the same arguments from both sides. Once I tried to probe the anti-AI ones and they were completely oblivious to what was going on on 4chan.I'm convint both pro and anti-AI posters here are astroturfing.
>>729004079Ok so then you didn't read the original post then. Go back and put all your effort in reading it again and seeing what was said in regards to effort and mediocrity>>729004110>Then why don't you enjoy the struggle to create AI work?It's much easier>This is not an argumentIt is in fact THE argument. It is a technology that exists precisely to help alleviate effort and expand capabilities beyond it. No matter what roadblocks are faced while using the tool, it's ultimately still less due to the fact that it's entire existence is predicated upon eliminating a degree of other work from the process. AI would not exist otherwise. That is its very nature as a tool. It is the nature of EVERY technological tool.
>>729002903>>729003095i know like 3 trannies irl (dont ask why or how) and they all are anti ai
>>728996667>SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE ARTISTS>THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS ARE ESSENTIAL FOR HUMANITY>ITS NOT A HOBBY ITS A JOOOOBBBget replaced artcucks
>>729004461You're just illiterate kek. Holy shit.>>729004527You can talk all you want but it doesn't diminish the human effort just because you don't like it. You're just a loser on the wrong side of history, a luddite.
>>729003518>by being performatively racist against Indians.Literally entire world hates you it's not performative.
>>728996667>Astroturf obscure : Industry plant 33>10/10
>>728996741>AI is SOULLESS>Humanity is SOUL>how can AI even compete?>AAAAAA NO DON'T REPLACE US SOMEONE BAN AI SLOP NOW SHUT IT DOWN
>>729004824>dodges the queation.If you are refusing to participate in the discussion, you lose.Thanks for declaring me the winner.
>>728996667>strawman>obvious astroturfed shillingIt's rare to see such a big push hereI'm surprised there are funds leftover for such things after how much of a money sink AI has been
>>729004872ai has never and will never replace any real person.
>>728996667Let's settle this shit once a for all:>AI for adaptative enemies and NPCsGOOD>AI for creative purposesBAD
>>728996667I look like this and do this.
>>729004181this >>729002903 is you, troon ahahahah
Retards have been incessantly whining that using AI tools in game development is the early warning sign of a corpo cashgrab that cannot result in anything soulful. Then these same retards spent the better part of a year endlessly praising E33 for being the most soulful, authentic and passionate game they've played in a long time.Now it turns out AI was used in developing the game. How does the retard mind process this information now? How did the game end up being more soulful and authentic than many games that pride themselves on 0 AI usage? A very tense situation in the brain :^) Almost as if the term "AI" is used way too loosely and if used well it's literally just another tool in your toolset, and if you are good at your job you'll use it well.
>>729004929Fucking idiot. You were arguing with a ghost.
>>729005075>he's still dancing when i say "dance"Jump, anon, jump!
>>729004824>it doesn't diminish the human effort just because you don't like itNo, it diminishes the human effort because that's what tools are for. That is the very definition of technology. It allows people to do things easier. You getting upset about this is like getting upset that the Memphis Bass Pro Shop Pyramid isn't considered as impressive of a work as the Egyptian Pyramids.
>>729005108I wasn't arguing.
>>728997196give it a few years and the right usb dongle and it'll be able to
>>729005097Nobody except virtue signalling faggots actually care that E33 accidentally left some AI posters in the game for a couple of daysIts strange that you're trying to push this narrative so hard
if you slip a rape pill into a delicious drink that drink does get retroactively ruined after you wake up with a bleeding asshole
>>729005198This "narrative" is a discussion that's been raging nonstop among retards online, the idea that if a game dev studio even thinks of using AI in any capacity then it must be a shit morally bankrupt pajeet studio with 0 creativity, things like that. Now it turns out the developers of supposedly the most creative, soulful and authenthic game according to many people definitely used AI to help guide their game dev process. What's the conclusion to make here?
>>729005332That the Game Awards are soulless.
>>729005332no, dont forget that the other possibility is that they are a pack of evil rightwing fascists that grab your pussy while you walk past them.
>>729005332Virtue signalling leftists might think that way, but the rest of us anti-AI types don't think placeholder posters are such a big dealI'm legitimately sorry that leftists are such massive retards but there are plenty of genuine reasons to broadly be against AI use
>>729004843/v/ has been fucking shilling that UE5 slop for an entire year now faggot
>>728996667>Attend a live performance >It sounds good>Find out nobody in the band is a musician, they can't sing, can't play the instruments, can't compose and it was all pumped from a speaker>Actually that was shit Pretending to be something you aren't is always off-putting, particularly when art is involved. If you want to make machine generated McDonald's slop just admit it and the audience will sort itself out.
>>729005332>the idea that if a game dev studio even thinks of using AI in any capacity then it must be a shit morally bankrupt pajeet studio with 0 creativityTrue, name 1 exception.
>>729002759Still has the human soul even if it is a rehash. It is part of human nature of humans to mimic and make something we like and doing what works for survival. You guys think some artist in history was the first or only one doing whatever work they were doing? Just look at the works of the mentors for any famous artist or periods of artistic trends. Now after making art easier with digital technology, we've made a technology that also literally steals and copies and pumps out a variant of whatever fed and prompted. But pretending a human mimicking another is the same as ai is disingenuous. Despite that, the rehashed media is still more soul than writing an ai prompt and accepting whatever is vomited out without any real human effort to directly mold the final result and throwing it out there at mass volumes just to hurriedly profit. It can and should be used as a tool to aid us, as other tech systems already have been doing for years with digital media, but lets not pretend some retards uploading sora videos to misinform people and rake in ad revenue is soulful.
>ctrl f + saa>16Glad you guys are back. The last couple of days were hard.>>728859146>>728865910>>728850694
>>729005446>/v/ shilling anythingretard detected
>>728997576I can tell>b-butI can tell, not buying your game.
>>729004658That's because almost everyone in the first world is anti AI, maybe you should start hanging out with people who aren't trannies you humongous fag.
I think AI has great potential, a lot of slop is churned out but it's rapidly evolving.
>>729005710just like almost everyone was gonna not buy hogwarts legacy?and how almost everyone was gonna play concord?and how almost everyone was gonna by Yasuke Simulator?
>>729005332Depends how far they went with the tools and where and what was sacrificed and gained in doing so. I never played it so idk or care much but I'd like to know what aspects people thought the AI elevated the game because as far I knew, and even before the pro-ai defenders now knew, they were celebrating it for other reasons (i.e. psuedo-political stances)>>729005446what you on about
AI sloppers on Pixiv or Twitter are still making better use of AI than pro-AI shitposters on this site who care more about having a stupid ass fight with anti-AI trannies that actually do something productive with AI thoughAlso is ARC Raiders worth buying during the sale?>>729004184Meanwhile anti-AI jap artists are starting to ruin their art with "DO NOT REPOST/USE MY ART FOR AI TRAINING" watermarks and/or Glaze/Nightshade
is seriously no one going to address the fact that the OP is AIslop?
>>729005964only the anti-ai shills would care.that image has been getting posted for about 3 days nowyou are unironically the first person I have seen across dozens of threads to call it out.I saw one idiot try to call it mspaint.The only people who would care to call it out are the same retards who couldn't tell it was AI.
>>729005964Why does it need addressing? It's obviously AI.
>>728996667>AI usage is now based because E33 did itE33 fans have really become pajeets, haven't they
>>729006095>The French have become pajeetsArt imitates life
>>729006095is it exhausting to be so hyperbolically polarized on everything you think of?
>>728996667If I'm shown a highly detailed statue and told it was hand carved, I'd be impressed and would value it highly.If I'm down a highly detailed 3D printed statue, I'd know it's mass producable and low effort, and therefore worth less.I'm not supposed to AI use. It should just mean a heavily slashed price tag.
>>729005753>I love paying 5x the price for RAM + all electronics and I love mass unemployment and I love shitting all over the internet because I hate trannies and because black people are low iq These things are not connected, your attempt to make licking Sam altmans dick "based" is pathetic. The only real link is porn addicted neets are more likely to hold both reactionary and pro AI views, but they are just as much of a waste of space as trannies and wokies.
>>729004408Got nothing to do with being tough, it's about having the bare amount of fucking self-respect. Anyways choke on my dick.
>>729006160This is the norm on /v/ yet you don't call them out, fuck off.
>>729006214>random rant about different mattersand just like that, the shill outs themselves!>>729006228no, it sounds more like its YOUR norm, and it makes you unhappy.have you tried just having your own nuanced thoughts instead?
>>729006053>The people that noticed it was AI are the same retards who couldn't tell it was AI....what?
>>729006095>have
>>729006287>just like almost everyone was gonna not buy hogwarts legacy?>and how almost everyone was gonna play concord?>and how almost everyone was gonna by Yasuke Simulator?>>random rant about different mattersand just like that, the shill outs themselves!
>>729005498>Pretending to be something you aren't is always off-putting, particularly when art is involved.this is purely neurotypical evolutionary programming at play. elitism masquerading as something more benevolent. you will be humbled in time
https://youtu.be/wiMyCzezfTg?si=b0cwqCa3QQYvRqEHYou laughed at him, mocked him for upgrading his stuff every 6 or so years. Now he's the one laughing at you.
>>729006368>shill gets mad and starts repeating me
>>729006379Ok tranny, one day you will be accepted as a woman because it's all neurotypical evolutionary programming. Lying about what you are will always be disgusting because it reveals a major character flaw that is dangerous interpersonally and on a societal level.
>>729006508It's really hard to find an AI shill who isn't constantly projecting. The only genuine ones are porn addicts pushing for open source models, the rest are sweating about their financial investments
Being an anti-shitskin /pol/fag and anti-AI at the same time means you're a struggler, just saying
>>729006696it means you don't like funding chatbots for third worlders at the whim of an actual faggot kike
>>729006696Who gives a shit. You can have more than one reason to hate someone. Package groupthink is brain poison.
>>729006696Being a /pol/fag and pro AI means you're a reactionary NPC
>>728997560Every AAA game made in 2025
>>728996667>Our game is totally amazing, and you'd love it if not for the AIUtterly delusional.
actually. this thread suckssoulless
>>729006643It's really hard to find an anti-ai shill that isn't projecting.All the serious ones maintain everybody is an indian or a gooner, and they keep making things up and pretending more was done with AI than really was.Also none of you know how to draw anyways.
>>729006749>actual faggot kikeOpenAI has lost the AI monopoly long ago
>>728996667The AI vs no AI debate is just the new FOTM for retards who have so much free time on hand that they start to care about the micro-ethics of tool use despite the discussion leading nowhere. Once you start doing stuff (development, art, whatever) you stop caring about whether it's ethical and only if it will get shit done correctly. That's why the debate is pointless.
>>729007157yet he's the biggest money burner that's actively raping the consumer marketat least jewgle had the small mercy of making their own dedicated ai shit instead of tapping into the consumer shit this hard with gpus and memory
>>729007148>It's really hard to find an anti-ai shill that isn't projectingProjecting>All the serious ones maintain everybody is an indianThe people calling you Indian are not indian, these are also the least serious opponents.>pretending more was done with AI than really was Projecting>Also none of you know how to draw anyways.Projecting
>>729006857I know. I was just being sarcastic but c'est la vie>>729007101>>729007289Every AI discourse threads are like thatUsing Sora 2 to make AI videos featuring some Japanese gay porn actors is still more fun thoughJust say that you have AI discourse fatigue
>>729007289Give it like 5 years and using AI for production cycles of pretty much everything will be normalized and the average person will be desensitized to pointless outcry
>>729007353no, I just finished arguing with a stupid kid about this out of boredom while waiting for the grocery store to be open.drawing isn't hard>>729007075also, you didn't use projecting correctly.AI got used for placeholders and concept art, and you retards regularly make it out to be far more than that.
>>729007289its probably a distraction from the middle east and epstein files. probably. trannies are useful idiots as always.
>>729007560>drawing isn't hardKek he really is a tranny, come on master artist, post your work.No, they object to AI being used to direct the most important parts of a game, concept art being human led is actually more important than a 3d model or texture. I don't personally have any problem with what larian did as long as they admit to what they are. This board is 24/7 covered with threads about how every developer is using AI for absolutely everything when the reality is its a Google/pinterest replacement with some texture upscaling and the odd AI VA or asset placeholder.
>>729007912uhhh dude?I just linked it.are you stupid or something?>concept art being human led is actually more important than a 3d model or texturewow.that has to be the most pathetic cope I have ever seenthe final product is the most important.not the random concept art that is often stolen anyways.nice job exposing yourself.gonna go to the store now.
>>729001762Delicious as dog may be, he was my family and I did not want to eat him. This is a question of morality, not quality of product.
>>728996667The nature of a work's production can have an effect on one's experience. For instance, if I knew a film director made a human sacrifice to Satan during production, I could never see the film in the same way again knowing that he used supernatural powers to gain an unfair advantage.
>>729007302anon, you're stuck in 2022, OpenAI doesn't even make 50% of the market anymore
>>728997015Thank you gippity-chan
>>729007289>>729007560The best games and movies of all time were made without this shit, with this rhetoric, all you're doing is proving everything is getting worse. Applying this demoralizing logic to entertainment and reducing it to factory-made swill, removing as much human input and talent out of it as you can, that really means we're finally accepting it isn't art. Abandoning all pretenses. I finally have a reason to stop engaging with current day gaming. Thank you for freeing me.
>>729007912finally a reasonable take
>>728997162Can you write me incest smut?
>>729008306>random rantingok anti have fun on reddit
>>728996950where on X are you going to find posts like these
>>729008306have you considered the fact we have an infinite future awaiting us and AI can't make movies or games yet?lol what the fuck kind of logic is this
>>728997804It wouldn't be delicious if that were the case
>>729008062The point of a piece of concept art is not to look good, apparently you're an artist and don't understand the difference between concept art and illustration. You really think the job is just "draw a hot woman in armour"? It's to come up with novel, logically/mechanically consistent ideas that fit with the theme of the game. AI doesn't invent the weird death stranding baby in a bottle or the clappy arm radar, that comes from shinkawa digesting the themes of the game and combining it with his own expertise and taste.They could have skipped that step and just got an AI to strap a generic beeping satellite to his shoulder and strap a baby to his back but that would have been generic slop and bad concept art.
Still not gonna buy it.
>>729001940score should go up
>>728997998You use AI with your hands.>>728998068>HE USED FIRE? UNNACCEPTABLEthis is you
>>729008895>You use AI with your handsAnd that means my statement was incorrect...how?
>>728999135Hi ChatGPT
>>729008950it's handmade
>>728996741>made by humans>trained on human works>used by humansit's pure soul
>>729008998If an AI made it, its not "handmade" retard. Handmade means "human hands made this, with no automation".
I wasn't going to play that faggy French shite in the first place. Now I have even less of a reason to play it.
>>729009069Yes just like how design by comitte is actually the most soulful design process because you got 50 humans to make a decision instead of 1.
I could get 20 pictures and tell you 10 are AI and 10 are human made and I bet you'd get a bunch wrong. Hell, I could probably just get 20 human pictures and you'd say a bunch were AI.
>>729009092AIs are just tools. You're basically saying>If fire cooked it, it's not cooked>Handmade means "human hands made this, with no automation".Handmade means an individual person made it.
>>729009179>You're basically sayingNo, im not.Im saying that if AI made it, by definition, its not "handmade".
>>729008747Cutting costs and talent is a sign of not caring and putting the reins of creative control into executives. By the way, CGI movies were also a subversive tool pushed by tech ghouls and moneygrubbers to corporatize the animation industry. We started sliding down this slope a long time ago.
>>728996667And pro-AI gamers especially on /v/ suddenly like this game despite months of shitting on it
>>729009138you're conflating two very different things dumbass. Talking about soulful tools =/= talking about money grubbing business decisions
>>728996741It's not soulless. It just removes the physical barriers to realizing the artistic vision (painting skill, modeling / topography skill, people / managerial / time skills if you're a director, etc) and lets you put it in reality.
>>729009221Yes, you are. AIs don't make anything. People make things.>>729009238>people are using new tools>grug told me new tools badPointless schizophrenic post that said nothing except that you hate new things. Fucking luddite.
>>729009293Offloading work for the sake of efficiency is a money grubbing business decision you fucking retard. In a world where money didn't mean anything and game development was just a hobby nobody would be automating the only interesting parts of game design. >Yeah bro I make music as my main hobby, I type prompts into suno
>>729009350>grug told meComparable to Steve Jobs telling thousands of execs that 3D is better than 2D animation because it made projects easier to control as a businessman. The worst kind of schizophrenia is the one you don't realize you caught, bitch.
>>729008747maybe don't use bait images when trying to make apoint
>>728997473Well I mean this metaphor only works if you have an irrational hate for ai
>>729009512You're just mad people are using new and standard tools. Words like "offloading work" aren't negative ideas, it's normal. People will do what they want to do and only retards do things the hard way unless it benefits them.>Yeah bro I make music as my main hobby, I type prompts into sunoThis person is based and you are a spastic faggot seething at him LOL.>>729009670Because it triggers retards?
>>729009350>tool>ludditeopinion discarded, you're brown
>>729000628Ehh good enough
>>729009737because it shows you're a retard
>>729009741seething low IQ tranny.
>>729009350No, i'm not.Sorry retard, you cant put words in my mouth, no matter how much you cry.
>>729009839concession accepted you no-argument nigger
>>729001693baka anon, here comes a proper analogy>This burger made with pork is delicious!>Actually the meat it's not pork, it's chicken >What the fuck?! I don't like this anymore I hate this!It makes no sense to hate AI
>>729009816You are a triggered retard with no argument.>>729009848Yes, you are.That's why you can't retort.AIs don't make anything. People make things.Ergo it's handmade, having an individual make it alone.>but he used an AIsame as saying >but he used a pencil and paper
>>729001852Another AI artist being based as usual, you love to see it.
>>729009927>Yes, you are.Cute "argument".I've already told you you are wrong. It doesn't matter how much you cry, you cant refute this fact. And its upsetting you.How cute :3
Would the anti-AI crowd be the same type of people who complain about things like the printing press taking jobs from scribes and removing the human touch of copying text over and over? What about tractors taking jobs from farmers and not allowing them to work the land with human creativity?
>>729009996>I TOLD you you're wrong without proving itI proved that you are retarded and wrong lol.>>729010024Yes.
>SAAAAAR I AM A REAL ARTIST>CHUD I AM A REAL WOMANspot the difference
>>728996667I'm anti ai-abusers, people who think ai will do the dirty work (meaning being productive and creative) for them. The one example I have on top of my head is the new Dead Rising Deluxe Remaster, around 70% of posters and other images in the mall is ai generated and a lot of voice lines got replaced by ai. I'm not saying no ai usage should be present in video games, all I'm saying is don't cut corners with it.
>>729009925Why do you keep thinking tricking people is okay. Only proves you're okay with being swindled.
>>729009737Kek, People still go to see live music and still shit on dj's for being nerds with an iPod.Yes I'm mad they are using new tools and not that they literally replaced shitty Indian outsourcing with an Indian using AI. These looping arguments are so fucking boring I need to start filtering out AI threads.
>>729010045What proof would you accept?Name it, and ill supply it if able.>I-i-i proved that you said...You did not. Stop crying.
>>729010081>top makes art so they are artists>bottom will never be a womansaying art isn't art is the same as saying men can become women, so you are the tarnny
>>728996667>silicon valley investors when people have principles
>>729010119>zero refutations to my earlier claims>complete cop out with this postConcession accepted.
>>729010082God damn, that's real? I feel so vindicating in never gaving this remake the time of day.
>>729004847No, it's definitely performative, the hate for indians pretty much was non-existent until some recent years ago, where all of the sudden 4chan decided it's "based" to hate them, it's a very artificial development
>>729010206Don't. If you have played the original Dead Rising before, hearing those ai voiced npcs are uncanny as hell.
>>729010124>top makes artRajesh doesn't make art, the AI does.
>>729002150>Religious people are crabs in a bucket!Says the suicidal neet who lives such a meaningless material obsessed life he whines all day on 4chan about videogames, the claps when others lose their jobs because he doesn't have one.
>>728996667Designated shitting thread
just hella cummed to some NAI bros
>>729010213Not all indians, but lots of indians have some really fucked up "crabs in a bucket" and underhanded, sneaky morals. It's a religious thing, specially with non believers, kind of like jews hating goyim.
>>729010204>no answerThen you lose, and I accept your concession.Thanks for confirming there is no proof you would accept, thus making your "arguement" invalid.
>>728998406because there's no good reason to be honest with you
>>729010108No one is tricking you, anon. If you like something was made by AI, accidentally, it's because AI can do things like humans do.
>>729010213As a pro-AI guy, 4chanh has literally always hated jeets but it's gotten more extreme in the past decade because of immigration and internet awareness.The reason anti-AI people talk about them is because they're made at jeet CEOs because they, like every CEO, push AI. And they have no real arguments so they just call everyone jeets, even Tim Sweeney, Gabe Newell, or John Carmack. It's pathetic.
>>729010361That is kinda true, the stupid chaste system was a thing after all. Unfortunately.
>>729010308>person doesn't make art, the pencil doesBehold the wise words from an insane tranny.
>>729010403So, use a more convincing metaphor then, if someone asks for pork and you serve them chicken, you're tricking them. If you say your brand of canned food doesn't have asbestos in it but you hide asbestos in it, you're tricking them. Anyways, since I haven't played a 3D game made after 2017, I haven't experienced this thing youy're saying, and probably never will now.
>>729010479>telling a machine to make everything for me is like making the thing myself with a pencilthe cope is unreal
>>729010575Not my problem and I dont respect your religious beliefsI'm adding AI in my game and I'll lie about it.
>>729010575pork and chicken are different thingsa picture is a picture
>>729010586>using a tool to make a picture is completely different than using a tool to make a picture"BUT ITS TOO EASY"cry more autist, the future is now
>>729004079this better be the part where you reveal you made this image with AI
>>729010782You do that, meanwhile, I'll be making the graphics for mine without a shred of it, knowing in my heart of hearts that I am superior to those ""artists"" who could not.>>729010807Hey ask that guy, he's the one who came up with that one: >>729009925.
>>728996667This image is AI
>>729011047You don't know that, you believe that out of pure delusion. Someone as salty as you will probably never be better than any artist whether they use AI or not.
>>729011047And you'll seethe when Italian Brainrot products make more in a single hour than you will make in your lifetime. So much for your superiority.
>>729001763Only reason you're mad at food analogies is because you can apply food and eating, aka consumption and opinion of tastes, to anything since almost everything revolves around consumption.
>>729010807>a picture is a picture Then food is food. Eat your newspaper and sawdust -ladden slop, it's not like you can tell the difference, piggy!!
>>729011308they taste differentart is just art
>>729011308You'd eat sawdust if it was made by a real chef.
>>728996741The AI was created by a human with a soul tho
>>729011149Better than a sophistic bum who deludes himself into thinking he's a creative, yes. I can confidently say, you don't deserve to lick the boots of any amateur artist.>>729011221Kek if I truly gave a shit about the success of astroturfed garbage, I would not bother doing or learning anything at all. It's called a hobby anon, you do it for yourself and your associates. You would not get it.
>>729011817And?
>>729011993>YOUR A FDSFSDFJIcry harder lol
>>729012212
>>729011993>it's just a hobby nice cope when you know that your output is worse than literal AI slop, your art is less human than that which is made by a literal machine
>>729011415taste can be masked and faked really easily, and now so can art, it's the same
