>you want to play the latest game on pc at high settings? okay just spend $3k+ on a graphics card bro
>>728997463Waitfags blown the fuck out
>>728997463Are you retarded like literally? Gaming is still the cheapest hobby even if what you are saying is true. >I MUST HAVE NICE THINGSThen go to school and get a job. Fucking parasites.
>>728997463How about doing less escapism in your life
>>728997463nah I don't think I will
>>728997463*note: high, not ultra
>>728997463>google RX9070XT Hellhound>lowest price: 600 eurosskill issue
you don't need more than a 5070ti
>>728997463poorfags blown the fuck out
>spend roughly $2,000.00 per year to get top end hardware for something you spend 112 hours per week on>likely less than that since not everything needs replacing every generation>also a further reduction if you sell the hardware that gets replaced>somehow this is considered expensive even though every other hobby costs millions of dollars or more for equivalent equipmentWhy are third worlders in this board?
>>728997463Name two games that aren't Indiana Jones and the Great Circle Jerk that you'd need a 5090 to play.
>order a new graphics card off amazon>they cancel and refund the order>it still arrivedIt's been 3 weeks since and they haven't charged me back yet
>>728997665>RT ongross
>>728997665its funny how they never show the FPS with RT off without DLSSlop on
>>728997793It's too weak for 4K. Only poorfags still use 1440p, that was the standard 10 years ago.
>>728997928anything in VR
>>728998061>>728997970still looks better
>>728998065
>>728998149the ground being coated in wax doesn't make it look better
>>728997934shhh
>>728997463Kek
good thing the latest PC games are all horseshit
>>728997495I can remain patient longer than they can stay solvent
>>728997463You can do that with a 5070ti, I'm playing every game except Spiderman 2 for some reason at 4k/60fps+ with either max or high graphics.My PC runs Cyberpunk with path tracing better than it runs Spiderman 2 with just ray tracing, I think it's because it was built for AMD ray tracing, but I can't tell.I will probably side grade into an RTX 60 series GPU just because of better ray tracing performance, basically you don't need anything more than the specs of an RTX 5070ti if you want to hit 4k/120hz in rasterized graphics in the most demanding of games, and I'm fine sitting around that point for now, even though I do plan on buying a 4k/240hz monitor in the next 5 years.
>>728997463what are you, poor?
>>728997878Time investment would be a no brainer and everyone everywhere would set aside this amount of money over the 2-3year GPU release cycle if it was purely based off time. However, valuing things solely based off time spent is where the slippery slope begins. The real issue is that the prices Nvidia sets and the prices their board partners set after are absolutely ridiculous. Especially considering what you're actually paying for gen to gen. The 40 to 50 series jump was an insignificant performance uplift that entirely focused on gimmick settings that further ruin the games industry. The only true value being you get more vram in the xx80/xx90 cards but disproportionately expensive to the amounts that you're getting. It's like how f2p and p2p games have massively increased the amount of money their microtransactions go for over the years. It would be a no brainer for people to spend money on the things they value their time with, but that's just how we get ass raped on price. The real issue with all of this is that the entire top end development for hardware is pretty much controlled by a few companies with absolutely no competition and prices are beyond absurd from what we've seen companies being charged. Those prices are going beyond what consumers are comfortable spending just for the sake of scalping companies. None of these prices are fair, they're just capitalizing on their position. Which is why people with half a brain realize 2k+ on a flagship gpu is retardedly over priced and just a consequence of monopolies in the supply chain.
>>728997463>3359New GPU comes out about every 2-3 yearsLet'#s be nice and say 2 yearsSo, that's 104 weeks32.9... let's say 33 dollars a weekAre you that fucking poor you can't spend 33 dollars a week on a fucking hobby?
>>728997463more like $4k+ actually with the monitor and accessories
>>728999096most people are absolutely incapable of managing money
>>728997463The funniest thing is that it can't even hold a stable 60fps
And the GOTY, Goyim Of The Year award goes to>>728997601>>728999096
and>>728999000
>>728997463>you want to play the latest game on pc at high settings?i don't
>>728999096Now add top-of-the-line PC parts and monitor to that too because you aren't going to put a 5090 into some piece of shit rig along with a crappy 24" TN panel monitor.
I will play games at 1080p 240hz forever on my 3090.
>>728997463>>you want to play the latest game on pc at high settings?'no'
>>728997463I have a 1060 and I only play dota 2, cs2 and wow.
>>728998149>increases gamma filter for same effectHmm curious...
>>728999292basedhigher resolutions are nice, but 1080 was never bad
>>728999273siema papaj
>>728999178I agree but as someone who managed to buy a house and pay it off by the time I was 27, I don't know how retards don't learn basic black bitch money management>>728999206I'm sorry you're poor>>728999276Most people don't replace their entire rigs like they do with GPU, unless they're retarded.That said, building a PC now is retarded and will be about 2x the priceMine with a 4090 2 years ago was about 2800. All I kept from my previous build was a 4k monitor
Serious question, why doesn't someone makes more, there's clearly a market for it.It it that complicated?, why dont the chinks or koreans make them
>>7289994091080 was good in 2010it's been ruined by taa and upscaling methods which only work good at 1440p and higher
why don't you guys just play at 1080p
>>728999604shh...let them be retarded and consoom new products
>>728999604no sane person can experience 4k and go back to 1080p or even 1440p. I believe 1080iggers are all just living in ignorance since they have not yet experienced what 4k offers even as a daily driver
>>728999832Do you really want to burn electricity everyday and turn your PC into a heat to play a toy though? Also anyone with a 1080p monitor can run ds 4k. Which looks better.
>>728999832Going to 1440 from 1080 is already pretty mindblowing, and 4K looks great. But 4k is just unfeasible for the vast majority of people.
>>728999096Why would you buy a completely new top tier GPU every gen, you could sell your previous GPU for most of it's value and spend only a few hundred per gen to upgrade, you just need to spend big on the initial GPU purchase.Even 5 years on RTX 30 series GPUs are selling for around half their initial value, well they are listed for that, don't know about selling.
>>728999438>I don't know how retards don't learn basic black bitch money managementthey're retarded NPCs who consoom as they're toldmost have stupid ass loans that they can't afford and they have nothing left on their bank accounts at the end of the month
>>728999957My point was, anon, even at a basic black bitch entry, you don't spend much at all.My fucking morning coffee costs more than $40 a week>>729000125And it pleases me they're retards
>looking at Radeon cardsWait, the 7000 cards are better/newer than the 9000 cards? Shouldnt it be the other way around?
>>728997463>you want to play the latest game on pc at high settings?You cant either way.
>>728999957Old GPUs sell for about half if used, hey dumbo, people also want GPUs for AI shit these days as well not just gaming hence the GPU prices went up even though VRAM stays halted.
>>729000249Yes fair enough, but there's better ways around it, to kind of highlight how little resources are actually needed.
Which is better? 9070XT or 5070ti? Both around the same price and same gigawatts.
>>728997463>RTX 5090|OC $3359>RTX 5090 Oc $3599Damn does removing the pipe from the title just give that many more frames?
>>729000391More recent GPUs are still selling for more than half of their value, at least in auctions I'm seeing, there's always going to be a market for second hand parts, and it's very efficient to deal with it on both ends, I've helped people into cheap second hand PCs that knew nothing about them because some of these second hand PCs are way cheaper than buying a new one and a GTX 1060ti is all a lot of people need to play their league of legends, although the prices for a lot of them are questionable.
>>728997463>have this card>check price i got it for>1,023.84 USD equivalenthehehehehehhehehehehehehhhehe
>>728997463>Njewdia filtering the graphic retardsuhhm based?
btw zero reason to buy a 32gb gpu instead of 16gb to gameyou only need the extra gigs for ai training or video rendering
>>728997463If you even think about this card, you're a rich cunt, so what are you complaining about price for?
>>729000667Nobody buying a new rig will be buying a 1060ti or 2080ti other than someone in China dude.
>>729000449Your team preference and which software environment you have more confidence in.
>>729000449Just a guess, 5070ti is better at ray tracing 9070 xt is better with rasterization and it should be cheaper.>>729000829Someone who just wants to play League for $200 will.
>>728997463I was gonna say it's not too expensive but yeah, that's pretty much the prize for an old but still working automobile in my country
>>728998065>4KLol
>>728997463I just upgraded from a laptop with a 1070 to a laptop with a 5070ti. I think I'm good for another decade.
>>729000976Poorfag spotted.
Why does everyone seem to think that 16gigaberts is the good place to stop with the ram on these things?Why cant I just get a 5070ti but with 24gligs?
>>729001112thats nvidia being jewish.
>>729000324only the top end 7000 series because amd didn't bother to make a top end for the 9000 series
>>729001112>>729001154I think their plan for a super was 24 but with the memory crisis those supers probably aren't happening
>>729001005Being poor had its advantages. You probably didnt get it because you eat Caviar everytime and had no idea what Pub is
>>729001112I mean seriously why do you need more though
>>729001330higher frame rates at better resomolutions. 1440p and never having to worry about any possible frame dips.
>>728997463If you don't have AT LEAST x10 that on your bank account RIGHT NOW, you're a huge failure of a person.
>>729001618I have double that and I'm still a huge failure.
Reminder most people here larping as a richfag Theres even a case in /v/ where he larping so much he accidentally post his credit card info on /v/.And he begged anons not to use his credit card.I wonder where that anon goes right now
i have a 4080 and a 144hz 1440I am good for atleast another 10 years
>>729001749>I am good for atleast another 10 yearsMaybe, but doubtful. Cards are powerful enough they know they can push out unoptomized slop, and the cards will power through it. But we're reaching the tipping point where the cards are struggling to keep up with the level of slop they are serving. Even 5090s struggle with some shit.>mfw code vein 2 system reqs came out, and for minium settings at 1080 is suggests a 3080
>>728998964>muh high fps>screen cap says 38 fpsCmon Jensen you can do better shilling than that.
>>728998065I'd rather get 200 FPS with my 5070 1440p rig than 60 FPS on a 4k rig
While I do want to upgrade to a new cpu and gpu its stupid to do so right now because 6000 series is coming out next year along with zen 6. So for now I'll wait.
>>728998065>Standard was 1440 in 2015>980 non-sli could even get close to 60fpsEvery day I hate you fucking retards with a birth year starting with a 2 more and more
>>728997495Heh..about that..
>>729001702>he accidentally post his credit card info on /v/i don't remember this. was he dumb enough to post a screenshot with the info in it or what?
>>728997463>>you want to play the latest game on pcNo.
>>728999438cuckolds like yourself belong to reddit
>>729002409>plz support our unicorn, with another 28 billion dollarinos, we will surely deliver
>>728997463Yeah, that's pretty cheap to get the top-end experience in a hobby.Imagine trying to get into motorracing, shooting or gardening, but you can't imagine spending more than $3k to get the best top-tier experience.
>>729005359>can't sustain 60fps even with fake frames>stuttering fest>crashes>150GB games>30GB updates>TAA motion mess>popping and clipping everywhere>micro-transactions >loot boxes>mandatory internet connection even for solo game>downtimesbest top-tier experience indeed
>>729002807Yeah, hes really that dumb. I think it happened before Covid
>>729005751animations are dogshit these days too
>>7289974634K retards deserve this. If you think there's noticeable improvement over 1080p you SHOULD pay $3k+ for a card.
>>729005751Oh man, you think that's bad.>Shooting.>Go the range. Pay a fee.>Can't do what you want, range jannies limit what you can shoot, when and where.>Ever shot, costs money.>Can't even collect your own brass.>Want the newest coolest gun? Anywhere from $1K to $30K. Plus Tip.>Attachments to even fire some of the guns are paid extras.>Literally destroys your hearing.>Shoot something too big? RIP Wrist, retard.>Want to shoot something other than targets? Well, that's an extra fee.>But anon, you can just buy your own land and shoot whatever the fuck you want there, right? Yeah, sure, if you've got $100K + yearly taxes + a license + random chance of police deciding you're causing a nuance or a terrorist and firebombing your ass.
>latest gamethere's your problemthere are no "latest" AAAslop games worth playing
>>729001618>keeping money in a bank instead of assetsoh god oh man OH GOD
>>729007393This, but I still need a proper PC to play kino indie games like E33
>>728997463you need need a 5090 to play the newest games, stop living in outrage imaginationland
>>729006151if you can't detect the fidelity, you shouldn't really be telling others what they spend their money on to obtain it.
>>728999206So are you Rabbi of the Year, since you're obviously not a goy?
>>728998061Why would you play without frame generation on? You do have a high refresh rate monitor, right?