Indie is short for independent. That means by yourself.To qualify as an "indie game" it has to be created entirely by one person.
>>728997680I don't know anyone who uses that definition. When a game is developed by one person it usually is described as a solo-developed indie game. Just saying that it's "indie" doesn't communicate that.
Just like Toby Fox, who singlehandedly made Undertale and Deltarune with absolutely zero outside help or contributions
Reminder that if you purchased assets, that means you collaborated with an outside force, meaning that you are in fact NOT a solo dev
>>728997680Yeah, just like indie films, which are famously produced exclusively by a single guy.
>>728997795Indie means independent. That means by yourself. You're just stupid, so you don't get it. You are called a person who is incapable of independent thought. Cause you can't think for yourself. You need other people to do it for you. Snivelling little dumbass.
>>728998247What makes the definition of a word correct, dumdum?
>>728998247You can also be independent as a group
>>728997680independant in creative fields means not part of a corporation. independent music labels are not part of the major corporate labels, same for films and written publishing. same for video games.
Realistically, shouldn't indie just mean "no publisher" or "self published"?The moment an indie game finds a publisher, it's no longer a true indie
I really wouldn't try to discuss business legal with /v/. Half of these people cannot actually read.
>>728997680that's solo dev.indie just means your company isn't owned by or contracted to develop a game for a major publisher.
Removing an Indie award for using AI is nonsensical, because AI doesn't count as a person. You can use as much AI as you want and it still doesn't count as a person.But E33 still doesn't count as indie because it had more than one person even before the AI thing.
>>728997680It means independent of publishers, you moron
>>728998303>>728998314cope from the delusional new generation who thinks words can mean whatever they want them to "feel". Men can be women if you feel like it and words can be attacks if you feel like it.No one cares about your stupid fucking feelings, you can check yourself into the hospital for the verbal stab wounds you just got and cry about it. Independent means by yourself.
>>728998434>>728998360>desperate publishers trying to cling to a scintilla of relevance and pretending like anyone needs them.no one needs middlemen. This laughable attempt to make it seem like you're an essential service is transparent as glass.
>>728998632>you'reMeds. Now.
>>728998360You literally need a publisher to sell video games outside of patreon scambux or free open source projects. Yes Steam is a publisher.Most regions have government/private censorship boards that need to be wrangled and you need to put the game in physical boxes and put it on retailer shelves.You're not indie if you're getting paid to develop a game for a publisher rather then retaining ownership and taking on the risk yourself and hoping you can sell the finished product through a publisher.
True Indie Game List Here:>Deep Sleep: Labyrinth of the Forsaken (Mateusz Sokalszczuk)>Dead of Darkness (Markus Neuert)>Siren's Well Quadrology (NAME UNKNOWN)>Ghost at Dawn (Brandon Roberts)>Lakeview Cabin Collection (Roope Tamminen)>Flesh Made Fear (Micheal Cosio)>Kathy Rain 1 & 2 (Joel Staaf Hästö)
>>728998360No. Indie is about development, not publishing, the same way indie in film is about production, not distribution.
>we the people, solemnly declare, our independence from Great Britain, which of course means we can be a country only if we find a publisher who will let us do it like Ubisoft or something. That's what independence means.
>>728998953Did you genuinely think this was funny/clever enough to warrant a post?
>>728999016I didn't post it, I declared it.
>>728998538>No one cares about your stupid fucking feelingsTrue. No one cares for OP being hurt about nobody accepting his definition.
>quick i must lick publishers boots
>>728999084Still. That's not anything
Indie is just the wild card category for when they don't know what to call a game.
>>728999624>zoomer has never heard of AA
>>728997680this is a stupid hill to die on
>>728998538Nigga, YOU're the one who wants words to mean whatever you feel like. I'm the one telling you that the meaning of the word is the way its used. Be it in popular usage, academic usage, historical usage. And when you look at it that way, "idie" isn't used as "developed by a solo dev". You're the one telling me that this is wrong, and you want to use your own private definition. The hypocrisy is astounding.
If your budget is higher than $500k then you're in the AA games territory and no longer can be considered an indie.
>>729000660Independent means by yourself. always has always will.
>>728997680>Independent: free from outside control; not subject to another's authority.
>>729000862That's not the usage of the word. No matter how many times you tell that to yourself, it won't make it true.
>>729000660When a teacher stands in front of the class and says: You will complete this assignment independently, everyone knows what that means. It means by yourself. No help from others. even children understand.But not you. You just don't get it.
>>729000945Based. Independent people are kino. They simply do not recognise your authority. This aggravates members of the herd.amazing that this thread is so full of people who want to be sheep.
>>729000997Words mean different things in different context. It's like saying "light" in terms of brightness means it's not very heavy, because that's the way it's used when referring to weight. The term indie game is used in a specific way, and it's not used to convey "made by one person". Are you playing dumb or actually dumb?
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>>728997680What if it's made by conjoined twins?
>>728998953But france (where ubisoft is from) was involved in getting americans their indepence
>>728998247What good is a definition if you're the only person who agrees on it?Words are meaningless without communication.
>>729001270They're called Siamese twins. Fuck off with politically correct newspeak.
>>729001208>The term indie game is used in a specific wayLol, not true at all. You're grasping at straws. The criteria for the indie game awards is different from year to year. They just rejected a game because it used AI. They just make it up as they go. There's no consensus among idiots, because they aren't using the right definition. Independent means by yourself.
>>729001365My apologies, as compensation I'll ask can you have multiple niggers on a dev team and still have it be indie since they don't really count as a whole person.
>>729001538Indie game awards isn't the authority on what "indie game" means. It's a fucking private awards show. They can define it however they like, but if they're the only ones using it that way, and it's not widely adopted, then they're using it wrong, since their use of the world isn't in line with the word's actual usage.
>>728997863what if i pirate all my assets?
>>729001720No you can't have any. Uh independent means your own race by itself. No others.
we need unique awards for- solo dev games- small team games- under one mil budget games- under 100k budget games- vibe coded games- unreal asset flip games- mobile trash games- worst early access scam games- most astroturfed viral shill campaign gamethose would better represent 'indie'
