All AMD GPUs are trash except for-RX 7900XTX (if you get it used and cheap)-msrp priced RTX 9070XT
>>728998350fuck off to >>>/g/
I have a 9070xt but I overpaid for it. Oh well, I still like it. I'm glad generating Sakura's butt at a reasonable speed finally works on AMD cards.
>>728998508If you got a shit deal on the RX9070XT you are basically fucked because right now they are extremely cheap.
poorfag here5050 or rx 7600?
>>728998692RX6600XT
>>728998692arc b580
>>728998350I was told I'd have to upgrade from my 3090ti otherwise I'd be "missing out"
>>728998350>RX 7900XTX (if you get it used and cheap)what if i buyed boughted mine for 1050 euros 2 years ago?
>>728998350So the 7900XTX is trash if it's new and cheap? Weird.
>>728998537That's fine, this was back in June. At this point I'm just happy I have enough ram and storage.
>>728998951why are all whites pedos
>>728999051don't forget asians
>>728999123no you just think that in your Caucasian mind
>>728999051>why are all whites pedoscan you try that again but this time per capita?
>>728998350with the ram being nuts and gpus in a weird low point i bought two gpus for two family members. A PowerColor Reaper RX 9060 XT 16gb and a PNY RTX 5060 Ti 16gbthe RTX was about 70 dollars more expensive. the RTX card was quiet, but the PowerColor card has annoying vibration from ther bearings and high pitch coil whine underload.The RTX card was to replace a GTX 1080 that i gave them after I got an RTX 4080. so far each nvidia card has been flawless. previously the other person was running an RX580 that i got them and it was constantly being borked by software updates for years... i hope i didnt just doom them to more AMD fuckery when i could have just spend a few dollars more for them too
>>728999051why are niggers afraid of drawings?
>7900GRE
>>7289983507900xtx aged like milkI'd rather use a poop 5070 or 5060ti 16gb just for dlss 4
>>728999492>7900xtx aged like milkWhy? AMD still on beta drivers or something?
>>728999583with a 7900xtx you have to either use taa or dogshit fsr 2/3, so you will have worse image quality than someone running a 2060
>>728998350I got a 7800xt for real cheap and have a low power computerSo what’s the problem with that?
>>728998350All AMD cards are trash because they're awful for modded Bethesda games, the peak of gaming.
>>7289986929060XT
>>728999689source?
>>7289983509070XT is goodfuck off>>728998508sakura sexo
>>728999689you can mod in fsr4 which looks ten times better than fsr 3.2, as long as the game supports fsr 3+
>>728999918and then you don't get the performance boost that other cards get, so you'll be getting the performance of a much lower tier card
>>728999810Source is AMD limiting the first decent version of FSR to the 9000 series.Meanwhile Nvidia backported DLSS 4 to all RTX cards.AMD also dropped support for the 6000 series and older entirely, despite some 6000 series GPUs having released only 2 years ago.Nvidia on the other hand just dropped support for the 900/1000 series, GPUs that are 9/10 years old.
>>728998882do you have any graphs from a nonshit game?I never understood comparing the performance with shit most people here would not be interested in.
If you're playing at 4K only the XTX, 4090 and 5090 are suitable. All other cards, RTX 5080 included, are fucked thanks to shitty devs and insane VRAM requirements.
>>7289986925070 or 9070. Being a poorfag means holding on to the machine you have for a really long time, and when you actually think about it, it makes much more sense to go mid-tier than budget. You basically saved no money over a 5-year span by going budget, but you get much better performance during that time and your mid-tier card will still do well in 5 years, while the budget card will start struggling within 2 years.If you're still intent on wasting money, B580.
>>729000087>I never understood comparing the performance with shit most people here would not be interested in.You want Call of Duty or FIFA?
>>728999963i haven't noticed any performance issues with fs4 compared to fsr3, on monster hunter wilds of all things, and battlefield 6. maybe if you're using a shittier amd card then yeah you would get worse performance but no problem on the 7900
>>729000147why do you keep naming normie trash that isn't fun?are you stupid?battlefield, modern COD, random sports gameits all the same boring slop and shit graphicsI would rather go back to arma 3 than something like that.
>>728999963Not really
>>728999689Tbh I haven't used amd since around 2013-2014. Bought their 2nd gen APU and it literary took them like 3 months to even release a stable driver, and 3 more months to release one that took full advantage of the new hardware. Fuuuuck that shit.
>can get a used 7900 xtx for 550>new 9070 xt is 570hmm
Did you get so assmad you came to shitpost over here instead of staying in your little containment thread on /g/?Either way, I am going to keep my 6950 until it dies. The last game I struggled to run was wukong and even then It really wasnt something earth shattering.
>>729000779>6950damn, niggas rocking a 15yo card fr fr
I won’t upgrade until I can get 5090 performance at 200W
>>729001028FINE WINE
>>729000010stop spreading lies retard
>>729001082Rich enough to afford a 5090, but too poor to afford an extra 75 cents on your electric bill?
>>729001165I’m from Europe.
>>729001158Where is the lie?FSR 4 is limited to the 9000 series, full stop.DLSS 4 works on all RTX cards. The only thing you miss out on is Multi-frame gen, but you still get the superior upscaler that actually looks good for once and not smeary garbage.
>>7290007547900 XTX has 24GB of VRAM and a lot of processing power, 9070 XT on the other hand is better with RT/FSR on. If you're not interested in RT and frame generation/upscaling, XTX is still a valid choice
7900 GRE here, am I cooked chat?
>>728999739this guy knows what's up>>729000110>what is dlss 4xmy 5070ti works like a breeze at 4k>inb4 native 4kpractically no visual difference, 5090 owners use dlss 4x
>>729001225
>>729001119Kek I'm still mad about a 6970 I had that fried itself. AMD, never again.
>>729001375>AMD walked back their decision to drop 2 year old GPUs not even out of warranty>because it's literally a crime in Europetopkek
>>729001362Im calling cap on dat one diddyblud
>>729001225Man those both look like shit. Why are we, as a society, doing this again?
Are Nvindians working overtime or something? This is like the third anti-AMD thread today. Anyway, there's literally nothing wrong with AMD. They're not as powerful as Nvidia but they'll get the job done.
>>729001464Because hiring 3rd worlders for social clout is more important than making an optimized product.
I know it’s difficult to get a non biased conversation going but after owning both NVIDIA and AMD cards in recent years, the only thing that pissed me off so much I sold my AMD card was the fact that windows kept downgrading the driver without asking for permission. I tried disabling automatic driver updates etc. and it still happened.
>>729001707>windowsYou're supposed to use Linux on AMD. It's a free 20-40% performance boost and you get to lose Microsoft's bullshit.
>>729001754I would but I’m a sim racing multiplayer retard
>>729001707I’ve never had an issue like that, sounds like a pain in the assDid you ever just use DDU and the reinstall the driver?
>>7289986929060XT no question
>>729001878of course. I went as far as installing windows fresh with no internet connection, set everything up as needed, block optional windows updates before connecting to the internet. And it still randomly installed an old ass AMD driver out of the blue. I could then roll back the driver to the new and correct one, but still. I don’t want to deal with that long term
>>728998350As 7800xt owner I honestly don't think I will replace it in my life time, I paid $400 for it and could get the 9070xt for $550 which seems to be amazing deal, but to what end? Most games I play run at +90fps without any upscalling, the only game that was a problem was Monster Hunted Wilds and the game was so shit I'm now done with the franchise. So what exactly 9070xt will give me that my 7800xt won't? Save few minutes when generating AI slop every blue moon? More fps in the games that are CPU bound?Give me the use case for 9070xt that my "trash" 7800xt can't do because I simply don't see it and I suspect 10070xt won't cost anywhere near $600.
>>729001528>but they'll get the job done>but 3 months late>with significant driver legwork done by second and third parties>with no support for paid licensesI mean I hate njudea as much as the next guy but COME ON
When are new cards coming out?Next year or 2027?
>>729001532>pickek thanks for the laugh. Sad to say it's AI circlejerk and jeet stink all the way down.
>>729001754>You're supposed to use Linux on AMDSorry, not til they address HDR bugs and oh yeah HDMI 2.1 that's a fucking no go
>>729002106>>729001707Gethttps://winaerotweaker.com/orhttps://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10Either of them lets you disable tons of annoying shit in Win10/11. The only downside is you might have to re-enable all your changes if you update 10/11. But you can save a list of all your changes and re-enable them all after an update.Jayz even did some quick reviews of them.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hdApSJAEEUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJSie_3ncc8Thank me later.
>>729002357Like no joke, this ticket has been open for a year and a half and the workaround is "just use a displayport monitor" right because people skimp on their GPU then go big on their monitor or some shit? Sorry! Njudea supports HDMI 2.1 and HDR color space out of the box for that same timeframe.https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/3358
>>728998350Nah. The 9060xt 16gb is the goat.
>>729000320>>729000395Yes really. FSR4 has a bigger performance on 7000 cards than 9070xt. Common knowledge. Also not many games have FSR3 in the first place, should've just spent the extra $50 and went nvidia.
>>729002648Linux is free if your time is worthless. Its crazy how many solutions are "just buy something different and use it in exactly this one manner" when all of this shit just works on Windows.
>>729000110XTX is worse than a 4070 at 4k since it doesn't have a good upscaler kek
>>729002712my monitor caps at 75 hz so it doesn't matter for me, fsr4 just looks better with zero performance loss.nvidia last year was either too expensive for the 4090, and i dont play a whole lot of new games with dlss or frame gen, so i prefer raw horsepower when it comes to running graphics
>>728998350You'll struggle to find GPUs that compete with and for a similar price point
4070 Super -> 9070 XT worth it? I gayme in 4K and god knows when or if we will get a new generation of consumer cards, and at what price.
>>729002373>just run a thousand tweaks to disable all the windows bloatOr in less than 30 minutes I can install Linux and never deal with any of this shit.
>>729003045Okay. Do that then if you prefer.
>>729002927>75hzman you should've just got a good monitor plus 4070/4070ti or something
>>729002765Then there's literally zero good AMD GPUs.
>>729003008Only 30% faster with less features, not worth the cost. Aim for at least 50-60% faster when upgrading GPUs, used to be you'd look for double the performance but those days are gone.
The 6600xt is the most stable gpu I've ever ucked around with. Shits dirt cheap, too.I overclocked everything out the ass on amd cpu and never had a stability problem.Absolutely best backup emergency gpu you can have. God bless 6600xt.
>>729002743>when all of this shit just works on Windows.HDR is a better experience on Linux, as an nvidia/wayland user. My post is to correct this notion thst "AMD is the only way" like yeah cmon bro, I can hack my fucking edid if I want the proper colormapping? Oh, there's a bug that prevents your GPU from rebooting without the pc (for proxmox iommu passthrough)? No HDMI 2.1 on Linux? Wow! How open-source friendly!
>>729003237it's not a priority for me, since if i upgrade my monitor i'll be stretching the limits of my hardware which could result in worse performance.My next upgrade is probably a new cpu, but maybe monitor depending on how it goes
>>729003402Nvidia continues to have an average 30% performance hit on Linux. Until that gets fixed, there is absolutely no reason to use Nvidia on Linux.
ALL radeon cards are obsolete before you even open the box.
>>729003353Ultimately I want 5090 performance when next I upgrade, but I simply can’t afford a 5090 and I doubt next gen GPUs that can match the 5090 will be sub $1000
>>728998350all pre-RDNA4 AMD GPUs are trash simply because their best way to render 3D games is FSR2-3 which is absolutely awful, you literally get better image quality upscaling FSR4 from 1080p to 4k than you would with native FSR2-3 4kit's RX9000 or bust
>>728999689I haven't bought Nvidia since the 8800GTS but the shoddy support and backwards compatibility of FSR has been making me want to switch for my next upgrade.
>>729003457>average 30%Not in my experience. But here's the thing:Flagship njudea cards outperform amd flagships by 30% across the board. Everybody knows this.
>>729003734>a $2000 5090 beats the top of the line $500 9070XTNo shit. AMD doesn't make high end GPUs. A 9070 XT will vastly outperform a 5070, it's actual counterpart, on Linux however.
>>729003783>A 9070 XT will vastly outperform a 5070, it's actual counterpartIts counterpart is the 5070ti, and it's almost equal to it on Windows. You're right that it performs better on Linux, but not in all games consistently.
>>729003860if only linux could run on linux
>>729003783>9070 XT will vastly outperform a 5070>with no HDR>with no HDMI 2.1>only with upscaling techniques and not raw processing>oh btw we tried this shit on a LTS distro with standard kernelI don't buy this shit. Again, if AMD is going the "budget build" and "open source friendly" route, why do they not support HDMI on linux? Ahh, no jk they secretly want you to pay them a pittance compared to your DP gaming monitor.
>>729001028hey dont knock it til you try it
>>729001119take me back, games were actually fun back then
As an XTX owner, I'm still confident AMD will release official support fsr4 for rdna3 at the very least. If they don't, why in the hell would they even make a working int8 version? It wouldn't make any sense other than to troll their own customers.
>>729004070Because their drivers are open on Linux and HDMI jews doesn't allow that
>>729004604pepe wearing a mask inhaling substance from "COPE" tank
>>729004648Cool that's 1 issue out of 9 that isn't corrected but we can absolve them of responsibility. Somehow.
Is the full adrenaline suite still causing crashes?
>>729001215sorry for your loss
>>729004070you're genuinely fucking retarded and understand nothing about linux if you think it doesn't have hdr
>>729001225it looks the same
>>729005541because the retard is trying to show the difference between temporal (over time, across many frames) upscalers via a single imageif you truly want to compare upscalers you need to watch uncompressed comparison videos. the closest you can get to that without having to download a gigabyte of .mp4s is watching youtube comparisons at 4k
>>729005497Read the thread dipshit>>729002648
>>728998350>-msrp pricedKosher meme for dumb goyim.
>>729005754imagine willingly connecting anything via hdmifucking kike lover
7900xtx helhound. literally never had an issue except for one Windows update when i had to purge and reinstall drivers. are nvidia fanboys literally sperging out about 2-3 FPS and gaytracing and AI framegen?
>>729005828imagine not having a big oled tv
>>728998350>t. jeetvidia shill
I like AMD because it’s the underdog and I can enjoy things more the less mainstream they are.
I bought a 7900XTX and then won a 5080 in a twitter giveaway like a month later. This is an extremely annoying situation to be in because there's no clear winner, some games run better on one and some on the other so I still have both of them. Should really just bite the bullet and sell one.
>>729006060120hz lmao
>>729005828>fucking kike loverKek. Enjoy your shit performance at a higher cost just to dunk on yids, goy.
>>729001225>photo of a monitorKILL YOURSELF
>>729006147the 5080 sells for twice as much and it's not even 25% more powerful
>>729004070>hdr>HDMI>upscalingHoly fucking NPC
>>729006184you need more on a controller? obvs you should have a oled monitor for mouse/kb games.
>>729006346>thinks I was glazing upscalingHoly fucking ESL
>>729006286nvidia fanboys strike me as similar to apple product users. ready to pay out the arse for brand recognition and minimal if any performance improvements
>>729006147The 5080 is innately capable of much better image quality and has extra gimmicks that some people like using.>>729006286This always happens over time, the value proposition of AMD cards dies a lot faster. 5700XT used to sell for the same as 2070 Super back in the day, now on the used market the 2070 Super is twice as expensive.
>>729006346t. ipshit monitor from 2015 user
>>7290064305700XT aged like shit compared to the 2070.
>>728999918FSR4 looks cheap. It just looks like a blur algorithm a TV would use than true upscaling.
>>729006286only if you're comparing by using taa since 7900xtx doesn't have a usable upscaler.
>>729006467>t. nvijeet
>>729006417It's more like Nvidia fanboys know that gaming is a luxury hobby and if you're going to waste your life sitting on front of your PC playing games, you could at least reach for the top shelf or middle shelf instead of going budget. Nvidia's "brand" is being a scummy giant that sold out to AI datacenters and only throws crumbs to the people who actually made it rich in the first place, so there's no good brand recognition.
we're gonna see mass suicides when nvidia's next gen gpus will be on much shittier silicon than udna and it'll be better at ai slop due to unified architecture
>>728998350>msrp priced RTX 9070XTFor now
>>729006430I should probably test it out more. Games do look like shit when I FSR them to 4K. I've been running the AMD card for the last few months because the 5080 arrived in the middle of every single driver release breaking something on the NVIDIA side so I shoved it back in its box to try again when they'd finally fixed their shit.
>>729006650i feel like that's only relevant if one is insistent upon playing all the latest AAA slop at ultra settings on 4k
>>729007032I took the plunge, not going to get burned again by waitfags
Imagine paying 20-25% more for 5% difference in performance lmaonvidia has the smartest consumers
>>728998882>4K>Ultra>Over 60fps on mid rage cardsHow the fuck did they>Frostbite EngineOf course. Unreal Engine 5 has done irreparable harm to gaming.
>>729007996it's more like paying 20-25% more for 5% difference in raw raster but such a substantial gap in feature quality that in real life scenarios it amounts to a huge differencethis is the reason rtx4000 cards still sell for the same price today as they did on launch, some even more expensive, while RDNA2-3 card prices dropped off a cliff because nobody wants them, because everyone has realized RDNA4 is substantially better even if it's above MSRP
>>729007337Not especially. I have a 3090ti that still runs shit pretty well, but thanks to the AI craze (jk I fucking hate it) I could sell it and probably get both a 7900XTX and a 9070XT with the money I make.
>>729000087>youYou know I just googled that chart, right? I'm sure you can google your own chart instead of sperging out over it not being the games you never told us.
>>729006561well, i never owned a nvidia card to know what dlss looks like, plato's cave and all that
>>728999689Are you guys already cumguzzling frame gen already?AMD is the most open source nuff said. AI and other production related stuff eventually come to AMD as a result. Lossless scaling came as soon the the window opprtunity presented itself which shows how cucked we are all getting. You should be looking to be buying your last cuckGPU right now and it should be AMD if you have any self respect.
>>728998350yea
>>729008386>AMD is the most open source nuff saidof course, if you mean "can't make drivers or fix bugs on time, even with community help" then sure hahaha
>>729008386upscaling and frame gen are not the same thing.>MUH OPEN SOURCEopen source is worthless if it's objectively worse than all the stuff everyone else wants. if everyone in a group of people is reading their own separate books and enjoying it, and you stick some shitty newspaper in their hands and say IT'S FREE AND FOR EVERYONE UNLIKE YOUR BOOKS, do you expect them to throw away their books and read your newspaper? no they won't, it's worse than what they have. proprietary non-opensource gimmicks like FSR4 just perform so much better and FSR4's actual greatest achievement is making everyone admit how dogshit old FSR had always been
>>729008386add it to the list
9070 XT can't do raytracing at 4k.
>>729008821if you made a list with the dlss shills you would need a lot bigger resolution for your paint canvas
can amd reach nvidia levels of efficiency
>>728998423thisai slop, goy tracing, fake frames, fake resolution, 4k, 500hz, unoptimized triple a movie/souls slop are not video games
>>729008885nothing can
>>729008386The strength of an open source upscaler would be 1) it's easier to adopt and work with than the closed source competitors, 2) quality-wise it actually undercuts the closed source competitors, and 3) it eventually replaces and pushes out the closed source competitors.Old FSR failed to accomplish all three of these. It looks worse, it's not actually any easier or harder for developers to implement, and the closed source competitors have improved at a much faster pace than old FSR has. So unfortunately being FSR open source is nothing other than the tech equivalent of virtue signalling.
>>729008750>>729008821And why do you think open source feature are so much worse genuises? This is like saying Jensen Congs dick is the greatest, because nobody is around to not like it after Jensen executed those people. But fine keep on sucking then. It's pretty fucking pathethic though.>>729009530Not untrue, but the issue is pace of development right. Gam3rs are out there talking about not being served, when the job of AMD and Nvidia should be to create the foundations of a healthy ecosystem. Yes devs coming in and building takes a long time, but it's the only way to the great uncuckening and saving vidya. AMD's problem is that they are going into this half-heartedly, probably driven by middle management non-engineers. Whether AMD makes a good FSR is not the point. AMD shouldn't be be the ones to make a FSR type features at all.
Remember when Ayymeds thought that their drivers would never turn to shit and their 2nd tier GPU company wouldnt go back on their promises? Kek
>>729010785>And why do you think open source feature are so much worse genuises?They don't inherently have to be worse, but if they don't undercut the competitor features in any way then there's not much value in it.>Whether AMD makes a good FSR is not the point.For the end user the quality of the feature is absolutely is the main point of it.
>>729010985>Missing the point(s) by this much.This is willful ignorance or bait.
>>729003365I'll sell my card when my 9060 16G arrives, but damn I'm a little bit sad already. What a pure fucking value GPU. Even right now I'm able to play Monster Hunter Wilds on Medium with FSR.
>>729004604I think they will too, simply because it's too retarded not to. It would be an even bigger shot in their foot after the leak. That said, it's not beyond AMD to Always Miss An Opportunity, so I got a 9060 XT kek
>>729006850Nah, the software advantage keeps that gate closed.
>>729013661I'm team red (Linux usage), but I agree completely. Nvidia is too fucking powerful with a software stack like that, and so much support. If we ever get a Ryzen situation, it's ten years in the making, and thus not happening anytime soon, and Nvidia still needs to get a little bit worse for that to happen.
I wish leatherjacket man would be eaten by crocodiles but why do people circlejerk the 3060 12gb ram when it literally does not have the speed to actually support the extra 4gb over other 8gb cards?
>>729014087Because you can compensate that by lowering settings? I don't know, I'm just guessing.
>>729014087i don't know either
>>729008295aren't you just mad that your attempt to bullshit about amd cards didn't go so well?
>>729013661the software will come when the hardware is therezluda already exists, if a bunch of randoms can do a drop in replacement then so can amd
>>729009427>graph was made on win11so its another useless chart
Which 5070ti do I grab? There's 50 fucking SKUs. Why do board partners dilute their own market?
RX 9070 or RTX 5070?Make it quick and painless for my wretched soul can no longer bear this torture.
>>729015495https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-gv-n507taero-oc-16gd-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-16gb-graphics-card-triple-fans/p/N82E16814932767?item=N82E16814932767&Source=socialshare&utm_campaign=snc-copy-link-_-sr-_-14-932-767-_-12212025&utm_campaign=snc-copy-link-_-sr-_-product-_-12212025&utm_medium=social&utm_source=copy-linkThis one. You’re welcome anon
>>729015653What exactly do you usually play? Also, any work rendering, inferring etc? I'm using AMD on Linux, but there's a reason why Nvidia has such a large marketshare. If you go with them there's less room for error, usually
I have a 1070 and it will last me untill 2032.
>>7290156539070 has 4 more gb of vram, is 10% more powerful and can be tuned up to perform very close to the 9070xtalso way better on linux
>>729015984I use Linux right now, but would be willing to switch back if the advantage of the 5070 is big enough. The gpu will be exclusively used to play video games. I mainly play modern video games regardless of genre but enjoy playing RPGs and historical strategy games the most. I am very budget conscious so whatever card I get the best deal on will likely be my final choice, but I still want to make an educated purchase.
>>729016406>No mesh shaders>Last to 2032lol, lmao
>>729009427Now show the numbers with DLSS enabled.
>>728998882The 3090 ti has 24 gb of Vram, who tried to convince you of this?
>>729000010Im gonna be real, its not cool for AMD to drop support for their barely old cards but it makes sense but it makes sense, the 9000 series cards are the first to actually compete with nivida and actually sell well. The 9000 series is also probably going to be the only graphics cards you can get for the next 4 years so its wise to focus on them.
>>729016774Just peep all your fav games on protondb (if they're not too obscure) and compare the nvidia vs amd reviews>>729019252some nigger trying to convince me I was a poorfag for not fomoing into one of the 7 better cards that have come out in the last 4 years kek
>>729019857Look I really do wish AMD takes this opportunity to undercut nvidia hard, but with their track record I don't see it happening. They're just strictly worse cards, even with the (max) 20% performance hit (on dx12, not dx11, vulkan, or opengl) of nvidia on linux.
>>729016774If I were you I would go with AMD then. Using Linux, favoring a budget and getting it exclusively for gaming is more than enough for that option. Just a few specific brotips:1. Gigabyte cards had a chronic problem with thermal paste leaking (it also affected Nvidia). They allegedly fixed this earlier this year, but I wouldn't trust it2. PowerColor is an absolute housefire when it comes to the 9000 series, so stay away from themSapphire, XFX and MSI are solid choices.
