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>Be Valve
>Steal 30% of every sale made on Steam
>Repay those hard working devs with a $10 box of chocolate
How is this ethical?
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>>729000761
Gabe deserves his yachts more than game devs deserve their income.
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>>729000761
Spurdo family boto?
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Putting a game on Steam is something you need to actively pursue. If you go around deliberately giving random people money, they aren't stealing from you.
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>>729000761
wonder how many copies they wouldve sold if they hadn't put their game on steam
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it's a privilege to work at a place like steam so i'd honestly be pretty chuffed with those chocos
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>10$ of chocolate
a single box of that is already 20€ chud. should be around 100+$ word of chocolate in there
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>>729000956
For a luxury brand I didn't expect the choco almonds to look like turds. There's generally an attention to detail in confectionaries so they specifically won't resemble turds and these guys didn't do it.
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>>729000908
LMAO
spoken like a true corporate bootlicker
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>>729000761
It's the "fancy" chocolate so they also gouge Valve for it, so they can send it to you for selling a gorillion copies on Steam and making them millions.
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>>729001026
yeah they look fucking horrible, but I bet they taste good. the pralines look amazing though
>64€
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>>729001074
My bad, it was the more expensive one.
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>>729001184
I think its nice of valve. never had any problems with them and if devs dont want to give them a cut they can always set up their own storefront.
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>>729000761
but the devs are really thankful to be on steam. nowhere else will they have the potential of sheer numbers
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>>729000761
>Repay
This is a holiday gift just to be nice
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>>729001076
Those look good and adorable. I'm sure they were trying to go for a non-processed look for the almonds but man those were a miss.

The real funny thing is the employees were probably seeing Gabe walking around with handfuls of chocolates munching down for weeks and never thought anything of it because its fat Gaben.
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>>729000956
those look gross
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>>729001320
>pr manager walks into gabens office
>dozens of opened chocolate packages
>"those were for the d-devs"
>gaben shoves a handfull of pralines into his mouth
>"good chocolate"
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>>729001074
>>729001076
>>729001184
If it wasnt for the packaging design, does anyone will recognize these chocolates to be an expensive ones in chocolatemaking business?
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>>729000761
>it's not enough that I am fat and diabetic, EVERYONE has to be
What the fuck is his problem?
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>>729001547
just by looking at them? hard to tell but you will notice if its expensive by tasting them
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>>729000761
>Steal 30% of every sale made on Steam
don't like it? then don't put your game on steam
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>>729001547
The packaging and the chocolates themselves have some pretty signature look of needlessly expensive stuff. The packages have lace ribbon that doesn't need to be there so its going to be expensive. If its just the chocolates on a plate then some of them have literal gold leaf foiling addd to the edges. I used to work in a company that used those for something and the sheets are expensive as hell.
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>>729000761
That is way more than $10.
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you only get the chocolates if your game sold 1million+ copies. valve's kikery is unlimtied
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Host your own webstore if you don't like valve, or better yet put it on the epic store
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>>729000761
It's not "Maison Pillon" but still premium chocolate.
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>put game on EGS
>make 88% of dozens of sales
>put game on Steam
>make 70% of thousands of sales
Many such cases.
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I'm going to redeem this card.
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>>729001590
Sharing the love?
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>>729000761
That's corpos for you, one of which Valve has been just a standard example of for the past 15+ years.
>REEEE WHAT DO YOU MEAN WE HAVE TO PAY TAXES!?!?!
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>>729001071
>spoken like a true corporate bootlicker
are you aware of the average salary at Valve? It's fucking insane.
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>>729000761
>steal
aint nobody forcing them to use their shop
its another matter entirely that the consumer wont buy their shit outside of steam
and its easy to understand why, shop ran to the satisfaction of customers rather than satisfaction of sellers will be visited more often than a shop ran other way around
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>>729001884
Millions in a lot of cases but yeah
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>>729000761
>valve decides to send a gift
>its a controversy because its not what they wanted
>valve doesn't decide to send a gift
>complete silence
i know what message people wish they were sending, but i doubt it is being interpreted that way
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>>729002108
>Don't put your game on Steam
>Steamies won't buy it because they're addicted to their launcher
It's signing your own death warrant.
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>>729001935
Bastard
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>>729001076
>>729001184
uh it's because of the ram inflation
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>>729000761
>mfw putting a demo on steam next year
It better be the best goddamn chocolate.
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>>729000761
I remember a dev making a thread about this several years back. Can't remember if you had to be with the top percentage of sales or sell so many copies. So either something like the top 10% of devs or sell 100,000 copies.
Also wonder how it works for dev teams larger than 20, I want to say they do send multiple boxes based on employee roster.
Also wonder if they've changed those metrics considering it's growth since then.
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>>729000908
This wasn't for their employees. Apparently they send these out to devs whose games passed a certain sales threshold.
I'm sure valve employees get a much nicer bonus than a $150 box of chocolates.
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>>729000761
You're paying 30% digital rent for using the platform. You seriously think the world runs for free? Go host your own site and sell your game there.
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>>729002194
It's called having principles. A man who would cheat on his launcher is a man who would cheat on his waifu.
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>>729002194
>you're obligated to buy from me using methods that will yield me more profit instead of a method that you know, like and trust
lol
lmao even
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>>729002371
I want to fuck that things penile slit as if it was a vagina until it thinks that it's a girl
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>>729002194
>Hates steam
>Hates everyone who uses steam
>"why steam users won't buy my stuff :("
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>>729002371
this really
they are paying for the platform, not the other way around. without steam theyd be like epic with no sales
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So who is responsible for the daily threads seething about Valve?
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>>729000956
>enrobed
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>>729000761
>every relevant platform takes 30% or even more
>...
>valve takes 30% while offering way more services to make supporting your game on the hardest to support platform significantly easier

You all got successfully gaslit by Tim Sweeney
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>>729000761
those devs are the ones advocating for AI, they deserve a chocolate emoji int heir phone and no real chocolate
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>>729001935
bet you fuck your sister too
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>>729002507
>while offering way more services to make supporting your game on the hardest to support platform significantly easier
Such as?
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>>729002485
I like to think contrarians farming for (you)'s rather than actual retards... but then I realized there would be no difference between the two.
So retards.
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>>729002628
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>>729002485
I'm not particularly fond of valve myself but I'm pretty sure most of these types of posts are by indians that the epicgames owner hired
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>>729000761
Indieshitters should be grateful Valve lets them lives
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>>729002771
Half of those are not necessary. You can easily implement them on your own.
And things such as
>overlay
>remote play
>screenshots
>workshop
>voice
>inventory service
Are not necessary. They're just bloat for the monkeys using steam.
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>>729002194
Indie devs deserve death
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>>729002628
Steamworks
Steam workshop
Community forums
Free Linux support
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>>729002485
Third worlders
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>>729002870
Tim, this is exactly why nobody likes the epic games store and why people actually like Steam.
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Gaben ain't beating the obesity allegations this way.
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>>729000761
>$10
Doesn't look so cheap. It may be worth more than some indie devs made this year.
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Reminder that 48% of Steam games don't make $100 in sales
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>>729002870
Shouldn't be any problem to make all of those you deem necessary yourself and sell outside of steam then
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>>729000761
You just know that fat fuck Gabe swiped some chocolates from those boxes
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>>729002194
i don't like steam either but its because i don't like steam that i don't want another fucking launcher. i am already sunk in one garden, i am not just going to willingly invite more of that bullshit into my life. you set a precedent if you install another games launchers, and that precedent is that you don't care. i don't want to have launchers for every single developer. yes i have deliberately avoided many popular series because they tried this.
i use gog and itch which i have few problems with, those are the kind of stores i am willing to support as alternatives to steam
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Reminder that before Timmy Tencent came along with his no shopping cart-able store nobody complained about the 30% cut except the Brigador devs.
It's quite literally industry standard.
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>>729001260
Dick suck them some more fag
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>>729000761
>be any other publisher
>pay devs a salary
>keep all profits
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>>729000761
Reminder that if you refund a Steam game the Steam cut won't get refunded to the devs.
Refunding literally hurst the devs financially.
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>>729003978
Good. Just make a good game that people don't want to refund and offer a demo so they can try without buying.
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TOTAL EPIC DEATH
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>>729001953
Valve is not a standard example of a corporation, not even close.
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>mixed chocolate, i.e. production leftovers
>nut dust, basically pig feed
>orange peels, literally trash
>give it a french name
>sell for 8000% profit
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>>729005140
why don't you make your own chocolate then?
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>>729000761
>Happy Holidays
Which Holidays? There's only one major holiday celebrated widely in December.
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>>729000761
at least they got something instead of nothing
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A $300 box of chocolates is pretty nice, but at that point I'd almost rather they just send a check and I can buy a $10 box of chocolate instead
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>>729005487
I'm not a scammer :)
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>>729002870
kek
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>>729001935
>reedem it
>I still have to type my billing info to buy a game
WTF
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>>729003284
Mine made $1500 and they didn't send me chocolates.
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>>729006271
I want to see your game and then tell you how shit it was to your face
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>>729006271
Only 998500$ left for your box of chocolates anon
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>>729002485
Console war trannies and Indians.
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>>729001260
The problem with devs is that they don't understand where that 30% cut goes, all other stores either have subpar characteristics and zero support for anything, or you have to pay for even having access to the player's friend list, in steam the only thing you pay is the 100$ fee and the 30% cut, the rest they give it for free.
For example, in the playstation no one criticizes, devs have to pay 30% cut, for their servers, have to pay for the sdk and they used to have to pay thousands of dollars to push an update, all while the users have to pay 120$ per year to play online, no one says shit about this, but somehow valve, apple and google are the demons for only having a 30% cut and the rest is free.
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>>729001076
i'd rather buy 20 boxes of pic rel for the same price
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>>729000761
They can always sell the games themselves
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>>729003978
Huh? maybe you meant that the 100% of refund comes from the devs share (which i doubt it does) because otherwise your post makes no sense.
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>>729002485
Tim Sweeney himself.
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>>729007468
>Chat
>ground breaking new feature
>EGS created on December 2018
waoh, does this have AI too?
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>>729000761
Reddit thread.
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>>729001547
>does anyone will recognize these chocolates
Fucking ESL idiot.
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>>729007223
>Huh? maybe you meant that the 100% of refund comes from the devs share (which i doubt it does) because otherwise your post makes no sense

They're right. If someone buys a $10 game and refunds it. Valve still keep their $3 and the dev just has $10 taken off their net revenue.

A refund of a $10 game is effectively -$3 to the developer.
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Why don't developers make their own steam? Wouldn't it be so much better to self publish? They've had 24 years to do it
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>>729008061
Everyone literally tried this and failed
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>>729001320
>The real funny thing is the employees were probably seeing Gabe walking around with handfuls of chocolates munching down for weeks and never thought anything of it because its fat Gaben
anon gaben hasn't been inside the valve building for probably years at this point
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they're giving 100 dollar chocolates to every single developer that has put their game on steam?
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>>729008061
A lot of weeb games are on JAST, DLsite and other sites.
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>orangettes 145g
>32$
Damn.
Gabe still splurging on chocolate gifts.
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>>729008126
It's the opposite, chocolate is the one that hasn't been inside gabe for years since ozempic.
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>>729006270
it's called scam protection retard
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>>729003661
Go die in a fire, dipshit.
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>>729007979
please provide some info on your claim, because quick googling got me info that the 2 week refund windows is there because valve pays out to the publishers next month after the sale, and valve hadn't even took the cut from the money at that point.
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>>729008224
Only if you made 1 million in revenue or more.
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>>729001547
I knew, dumb esl
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>>729000761
>$10 box of chocolate
>La Maison
those boxes are probably closer to a hundred bucks each
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>>729000761
>why do i have to pay to get my shit on steam???
host it yourself faggot, digital distribution is fucking easy
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>>729001953
who's dumb enough to work in sales, but not go over sales commission with their bosses before closing a multi-million dollar deal?
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>>729000761
Why does the card say "889128"?
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>>729002485
Rothschild contracted third world shitposters, he is trying his best to attack Gabe and Valve from all angles, but sadly for him his own demise is the one getting closer
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>>729000761
Lol they should be happy valve even gave them that
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>>729008061
itch io?
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>>729010909
my first guess would be that it's a code used to sort through mass print jobs.
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>>729001074
>hatbox
>filled with chocolates, not hats
Explain this
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Pas mal non ? C'est français
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>>729002194
Then 30% is appropriate.
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>>729002485
there was a thread a while ago with some dude absolutely seething over valve and it was just some NEET thinking he is some moral crusader of justice.
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>>729006963
Apple's 30% isn't the problem. And the fact that you even listed them alongside Google and valve shows you don't understand the discussion.
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>>729001184
>hatbox
HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
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>>729000761
>hard working
HAHAHAHA
Valve doesn't do fucking anything other than make CS skins and new Steam sales UI
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/v/ only likes Gaben because he's fat as fuck (like them). Like baldies, it's fat solidarity.
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>>729001320
Gabe lives on the ocean now and I doubt he eats more than a handful of simple grains and two bites of meat a day considering how unappetizing Ozempic makes food.
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>>729001547
>does anyone will recognize these chocolates to be an expensive ones
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/v/ - chocolate
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>>729012983
/v/ is actually a team mini board (true oldfag reference)
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>>729013095
PB actually
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>>729013095
Was that those nasty ass overpriced trail mix things some esports guy was trying to sell constantly?
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I wonder how much chocolate Team Cherry got for crashing Steam.
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>>729000818
t. Sewage water drinker
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>>729002194
I'm not buying your game with the bank of Paypal from your website.
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>>729013095
(-100 points from Team Mini for that post.)
Truly a /vint/ moment
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>>729013368
You bought Minecraft
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You guys are so cynical sometimes. I wish anyone would give me chocolate.
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>>729013571
Two hundred years ago.
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>chocolates get sent between businesses
>some guy seethes on 4chan for hours
I dont get it
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>>729013741
It's Tim Sweeney.
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>>729013741
GABE BROUGHT FUCKING McCAFES INSTEAD OF STARBUCKS TO THE OFFICE
REEEEE
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>>729013803
Mr Sweeney would you please sit down?
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>>729001935
ok, rape you next week
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>>729000761
He could've at least sent them Steam Decks or some shit
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They taste pretty good
my game only sold about 15k copies and they still sent them to me
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>>729000818
Yeah. One game a decade is more than gamers deserve. Fuck them.
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>>729002485
Nintendofags. They're still butthurt about the deck.
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>>729013803
Think he'd be happier if Valve would notice him and also sent him a box of chocolates? Or would he find a way to cry about it, claim Valve is the true embodiment of evil and that this is actually intimidation/bribery/gloating?
Or maybe he just wouldn't mention it at all and enjoy the chocolates, and the rest of the world may never know.
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>>729000761
>Steal
What a fucking retard.
No one's holding a gun to your head if you don't want to sell on STEAM.
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>>729000761
Mine arrived last week but Gabe called first dibs
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>>729000761
And what do the other platforms give out to the other devs?
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>>729000761
It's not ethical, it's legal. There can be and usually is a difference.
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>>729014576
>Microsoft - Pink Slips
>Sony - Copying Microsoft
>Nintendo - Alarmos to help make sure people get to work on time



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