Are you a hoyoverse fan? Do you play all the games? Do you like the lore and such?
>>729005426Garbage games designed for people who hate video games.
>>729005426How much money you spend on gacha monthly? Be honest, i'm just curious
>>729005527Me? None. I don't even play them. But i see people shill this specific companies games a lot and most people who play one play the other two, so I'm curious how they are so popular and engaging with so many people.
>>729005426>ZZZBlack culture garbage that not only superflopped but also killed mihoyo because the retards injected black culture to their other main games and even use its budget to relaunch ZZZ which end up making all games flop
>got my first meta survey a few weeks agofug
Yes, I play all 3.
>>729005708>10 million a month>flopIs this considered a flop in gacha? Genuinely curious cause im pretty sure you are just showing mobile earnings and most people play on pc or console so you can safely double that number, which to me would still be wildly succesful but I don't know gacha too well.
>>729005778Ok can you explain why? maybe what draws you in to their style of worlds as a whole? Honestly just curious, i'm looking for a game I can just turn on my pc and play daily after work. Just a time fill till the next shift
>>729005527I buy the $5 monthly passes for whatever I'm playing at the time.
>>729005869I like following leaks, and collecting new characters.
>>729005597Well, i suppose all three are built around the same mentality of waifuism, so if you are into one of them, chances are you will like the other ones too
this patch was a SLOG
>>729005950She is pretty which is she from? And what do you mean by leaks? Isn't following upcoming stuff just a vicious cycle of waiting for the next thing?>>729005976Yeh waifuism is something I can kinda get behind? The way the world is going nowadays leads me to think people obsessing over not real girls is the least of our worries so its not a bad reason for playing
>>729006036It's Silver Wolf from Honkai Star Rail
>>729005950BRAT
>>729005426>honkaikeks seething in the corner
>>729006094Woah she is very pretty! I like her jumpy behavior makes her seem bubbly and fun.
>>729005926I suppose that is a much healthier approach than the one some other people have. But still battlepasses are the purest form of evil.
>>729006094sexo
>>729005798>Is this considered a flop in gacha?When it end up destroyoing the company because of it and end up losing more than you won? yeah.The fact they have become the first gacha to relaunch, not once but two and now a third time at the end of this month should tell you everythingalso this year they are doing worse btw
>>729006161she's not like that!
>>729006194You're beating off to a minor!
>>729006250Kafka said it's okay
>>729006245She is very adorable! I like her tummy a lot what is she from?
>>729006226From that chart even genshin which is arguably the biggest gacha on the planet has slow months so whats the issue?
>>729005426Genshin and HSR I used to play, but the gameplay on both of them didn't feel good, the story however was great all they way until I dropped them.ZZZ is the only one I still play, because at least the endgame content is fun and dailies take like 1 minute total, but it's currently on the trademark chinawank section of every Mihoyo game, so the story has been kind of lame outside of the 2.x Obol Squad and Spook Shack sections, but I'm sure it'll get better.Also the idols are finally coming out on ZZZ and that is keeping me engaged, because I really want to get all of them.Overall I still like Mihoyo characters in general, so even though I don't play Genshin or HSR anymore, I still try to keep up with updates a little bit. Although for HSR not as much, since I did drop the game relatively early on (on Xianzhou Luofu).
>>729005597Cult following, babies first gacha.>it's f2p so there's no harm in trying it out>omg this is the best game ever made they deserve 5 bucks for the monthly pass it's just 5 bucks it's nothing>fast forward>casually buys the premium currency packs which range from 20 to 100 bucks but only if they still have the 1-time double bonus because that's totally worth it>the monthly pass is still considered f2p btw>they deserve my moneyYou are mentally conditioned into getting hooked to these games and spending real money on them as your sense of value/money's worth is getting more and more blurry, at least that's their goal.How cliché it may be, the term "predatory design" describes it perfectly.And no, I'm not some mindless hater jumping on the gacha hate train, I actually lived this shit myself and got out.
>>729007027Ok so this makes sense to me, i suppose genshin is for those seeking an open world to explore and honkai for those seeking a real turn based game, zenless is more action based combat so interests people who find that more engaging. All have their own strengths and weaknesses but the stories are generally pretty good! It makes sense to me now why you would play all 3! Thanks anon.
>>729007140Is it really that bad? As a grown adult spending 50 bucks a month on entertainment isnt really the end of the world if you are actually entertained. Plus dont most people end up with thousands of hours and im sure most dont spend close to hundreds
>>729007242What is entertainment to you anon? Your current anime fotm gacha character dealing slightly bigger damage numbers?A fancy ingame skin for the low price of 20 bucks? This is all just another form of mtx and getting (You) to open your wallet for something that you shouldn't pay for in the first place, especially if they ask obscene amounts of money for it.Thing is everyone will downplay this by saying stuff like "your poor" etc.Before the gacha boom all of this was considered insane, but it has been very much normalized by now.People often defend it by saying>it's a real game, the gacha is just a monetization model, just like paying upfront for a full-priced game!Except the full-priced game will never demand that you religiously log in every single day to do your daily chores so you can spin the casino wheel when you eventually have collected enough crumbs in the span of weeks or even months, or even YEARS.People will tell you with a straight face to "save up" for an entire year, aka loging into and doing the same shit every single day, for an entire year, just to NOT pay.So ofc people will eventually crumble and choose the quick and easy option, pulling out their credit card.You can have "fun" in these games, but they are predatory by design from the ground up.>most people don't spend hundredsMost people don't because "most people" are children/f2p/3rd-worlders/bots because the game is f2p, basically anyone can install and play it right away.I don't have any data to back up my claims but you bet the people that actually do regularly pay are close if not over the hundreds already.Every single person I know that ends up playing these games either goes full f2p or the "it's just 5 bucks, into paying 100 dollar currency packs. Even the ones that only pay the monthly 5/15 are already over the hundreds if they are long-time players./rant
>>729008049So is it basically just a quick way into a gamboling addiction to play them? Or like time pressure and stuff making you feel the need to "keep up" with the game?
>>729005426>all the games >only posts three of them
>>729008249All of the above.The gambling aspect is definitely a thing that gets played on, but most of the players are not even aware of it because a lot do not even see it as gambling to begin with.A common defense you see is stuff like>you don't have to gamble at all, if you have enough currency you can guarantee the character if you roll enough!And you get that currency by being a literal slave to the daily chore simulator or opening up your wallet.Again the value of money has become lost on a lot of these people. My own brother was the staple "gacha bad!" poster before genshin launched, now he casually pays the hundred-dollar packs on a whim even without the first time buyer double bonus because "he needs to have that character's signature SSR weapon!".Why? So he can clear an "endgame mode" every 2 weeks which give him some of that sweet roll currency.If he didn't pay up, he couldn't have cleared the endgame mode, so it was "worth investing" into that character and the game.He feels slightly better for beating it, right until he's short on rent but even then he will not see the gacha game as the fault nor the cause.
>>729005426I'm only playing genshin because of sunk cost fallacy. I want to see the conclusion of the story and then never touch this garbage ever again. I already quit Star Rail and Impact 3rd because it devolved into bloated dialogues and nonsensical story.
>>729008249It plays heavily into FOMO as well.If a limited character banner is about to end and you don't have enough roll currency you will often have to wait literally months or even years in some extreme cases so your only option then is to just swipe.
>>729008049NTA but paying 5 usd a month isn't that much different from buying 1 less-than-fancy meal each month.Even at 12 months of playing, if you religiously buy a monthly pass, you're using ~60 usd a year, which isn't particularly a bad price for a game if you're enjoying it, and you can still play without paying at all if you so wish from time to time, since there's bound to be characters you won't care rolling for.There are games that upfront cost just as much and you won't play for more than 1 single month.I do agree with you though that these games are predatory on people who lack self-control of their wallets and give in to buying other in-game stuff, which is where the real issue is.But that's not even an issue that's particularly only to gachas, FPS, MOBA and Mobile (non-gacha) games have been abusing those people for years as well.
I will play the new one if they drop their massively insecure anticheat.
>>729009361I used to buy the monthly gem pass in genshin. Then I stopped for a while, and noticed that I was getting way less gems over time than I thought I would without it, then it hit me.If you do all of your 4 dailies and report back to the adventure guild you get 60 primos. If you buy the welkin you immediately get 90 upfront for just loging into the game.At that point I felt like it was the dailies that were supplementing my welkin, instead of it being the other way around.It's also yet another thing that "forces" you to boot up the game, even if you're not feeling like it. The moment a game becomes an obligation it's stops being fun, but a daily chore that *must* be done.Don't get me wrong though, I'm not trying to tell people what they should do with their money, I'm just sharing my own experience.
>>729010101>At that point I felt like it was the dailies that were supplementing my welkin, instead of it being the other way around.Yeah, I get how that is, but the thing is, you're only gauging daily vs monthly pass stuff, when in reality the game has more stuff that you do outside of your daily login stuff, events and such that you're not forced to do daily and give just as much if not more than what a few days of logging in is worth. Also your monthly pass being worth more than your dailies just makes sense, you wouldn't want to pay for something that gives you less than what you get for free, right?I think part of the issue too, at least in your particular case, is that Genshin has / had a really awful daily system, they took a relatively long time for a low reward, with HSR and even more so ZZZ, they have a very relaxed daily system where it doesn't take you more than 1 or 2 minutes to complete, so even if you're not feeling like playing, you're not forced to sit there for more than it is just opening the game, click 2 menus and close it, it isn't more effort than just opening your email or whatever, so it doesn't quite feel like a chore like it did with Genshin at least.
