I really hope Deadlock will be successful. It's one of the few MOBAs that I really like, it has the perfect balance of casual fun and decent depth. Dota is too complex for me and LoL is just boring.
>>729010775>casual fun and decent depth>dota is too complexanon deadlock is more complex than dota.
>>729010775It's even more autistic than both, the only area where it's easier is macro and that's the thing LoL normalfags don't care about.
>>729010829>>729010837You don't even need the last hit creeps in Deadlock, let alone shit like turn speed from Dota.
>>729010829in a way, it's more mechanically complex but less strategically complex because there's less quirks and stupid things to keep track of coming from being a 20yrs old mod with dozens upon dozens of dumb shit stapled on top of itmost of the complexity that "filters" people in dota is just very annoying knowledge checks
>>729010775>be me>try billy>go melee build I find which is supposed to be highly rated>spend all my stamina to close gap to punch people>no stamina left >try to punch nigger faggot>nigger and bf parry >get stun locked >die>try to do it again>die>get super behind>can't play gameYeah this game is abysmal DOGSHIT. Don't got this problem in League you hit the damn ability it fucking lands wtf is this nigger faggot parry bullshit.
>>729010775I think it's an amazing game with 10/10 art direction, but it's also objectively exhausting to play. The length of matches, precision aiming (especially with the abundance of non-hitscan projectiles and abilities), complex movement, and constant macro and micro decision-making means that you expend a lot of mental energy in every phase of the game. Even clearing camps requires you to exercise a lot of active situational awareness and be prepared to pivot into fighting or running at any given moment.It's well-designed, but it needs something for casuals to latch onto, even if that's just more casuals to populate their matches.
>>729010775>casual funWhere? Closest thing to the game being in any way casual is the games don't tend to take too long (even then 1+ hour games can happen).
>>729011676thats why they are making brawl modes
>>729011946qrd? I haven't been following development closely
>>729012269apparently next patch they are adding ARAM mode with select-one-item-out-of-random-three itemization
>>729011946The idea of it raises so many questions>are the people going to be happy with essentially playing the game bite-size?>are people going to be happy with a gamemode that is much more focused on random chance?>are certain heroes going to be seen as complete no-goes because they're too easily fucked by item rng? imagine trying to make Geist work if you never get radiant regeneration for example>is forcing players to actually understand the items and not just follow builds more casual?>is a game mode that is ultimately focusing on the spammy combat going to just make it clear that the spammy combat wasn't one of the game's strong points?>>729012269From what I gather and what's been leaked it's a gamemode which is round-based and takes place in a single lane 4v4. You apparently have to choose between random items offered to discourage blindly following a build. Maybe the Geist problem I mentioned would be addressed by there still being a shop so if you really need a specific item you can still save and buy it but I dunno.
>>729013109>ARAMNice, maybe I can finally get my friends to fucking play
>>729010775>Casual funLmfao. It's arguably a contender for the most complex multiplayer game ever made. It's pure autism and sweatiness.And this is NOW. Imagine when this shit has 80+ heroes and like 20 more items.
>>729013117honestly i do trust valve to make it fun, they are aware they need other fun modes in order for the game to survive. From what we know mode has been cooking for few months now
>>729013397Thing is if they understand the game needs to be more casual to survive why didn't they do that to start with? Just makes me wonder if they even understand how to make a game casual to being with.
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>>729013776That's just it. The devs who made that a long gone, Deadlock proves that.
>>729011553Billy is arguably the strongest character in the game, filtered.Work on your movement tech, I bet you were heavy meleeing like a retard too
>>729011553Melee build as Billy is highly rated because his 1 counts as a melee. And the 1 can't be parried.
>>729013776Even TF2 didn't feel all that casual in the long run.
>>729014091>uh you need to work on ur le pooment>u cant just heavy melee you got to play nigger faggot mind games in DEILOCKNigger I already spent my stamina to close gap if you suck that much you shouldn't have a nigger faggot mechanic like parry to save you, you deserve to die. >>729014225Heavy melee do more dmg.
>>729014385yeah but heavy melee stuns you and you die instantlybait the parries retard
>>729014776you are responding to master baiter having a giggle rn
>>729014776>just bait the parries bro>play nigger faggot mind gayme>stamina bar of nigger faggot refills >runs away>parry comes back up or you get one melee in and its still not enough to kill themNice idea RETARD
>>729010775tell me when the add draft. Sick and tired of Haze and Mina
>>729014302You can play it completely casually. Pyro was literally made specifically to be a class for noobs/people with shit internet. Half the classes have very low skill floors.A high skill ceiling and competitive scene does not mean a game can't be played/enjoyed at a casual level.
>>729015513>Pyro was literally made specifically to be a class for noobs/people with shit internet.You're quoting a claim relevant to the original team fortress mod. TF2 pyro started out as the worst class in the game by far and his big help to make him not shit was to give him airblast. Reflect being the worst thing to try using with shit internet. Later help involved pushing a fast switching mechanic which required casuals to figure out that mousewheel is actually a terrible way to switch weapons.Then heavy-medic started getting really powerful which definitely require a more than casual knowledge to know how to counter. Same with sentry spam (something that even comeptitive players consider really powerful which is why they limti engie to one on all formats) that can end up requiring co-ordinated ubers, which in itself expects casuals to organise themselves enough to have multiples of the least popular class in the game.
I hope it flops and the concept dies with it.
>>729014971oh careful he posted a kid who says a slur
this thing already flopped. it will get like 80k players at launch and that's it. it'll then proceed to drop to 10k-20k consistent players in a matter of weeks.
>>729011553Is this how npcs think?
>>729010775>Dota is too complexDeadlock is harder than dota
>>729016441Damn brat...
>>729011553Billy is hands down the most braindead (while actually good) character in the game so you really just need to learn to play the game in general if you have issues
It's shit, I hope it fails asap so Valve can do literally anything else with their time. ASSFAGGOT mechanics are anti-fun.
>>729010775I hate MOBA's but I like the setting.Most Urban Fantasy stuff feels super lame but this was one of the few that felt actually pretty cool. Too bad as hard as I try the genre has no appeal to me. Spending 15 minutes farming on the most braindead AI before actually engaging in PvP and do cool shit is so dull to me. I can only hope it has a decent fan/creator community like TF2 had in its heyday.
The constant pressure to farm or fall behind is the worst thing about assfaggots and it's even worse here.When I stopped playing it was all about farming and exploiting exp gain, ganking was not worth it.Also fuck that aimlabs last hitting mechanic. Among the most tiresome bullshit in video games.
>>729017418there is no longer last hit mechanic. Just soul confirming/denying - but even then denying is nerfed, most people barely care about it>>729017221You can farm AND fight. Its actually the difficult part, if opponent is content with just farming you can zone them.
>>729017535>there is no longer last hit mechanic. Just soul confirming/denying That's what the anon is referring to as "aimlabs" anon.
>>729010775It was funny when the beta first started, and there were a bunch of players who had either played shooters but not mobas, or they'd played mobas but not shooters, and you could easily tell which was which by the specific ways they sucked at the game.
>>729010775The characters and setting are cool and I like most Valve games but it is not casual at all, it's easily the sweatiest Valve game. It was designed from the bottom up to be esports, but I don't know how successful it will be because it's impossible to tell what the fuck is happening due to how fast the characters are and everyone having a gun. It's like watching a TF2 match with Halloween spells enabled. I think some aspects of the movement are just stupid, too. As I get older, I appreciate "video gamey" mechanics less and less, and sliding giving you free ammo or whatever is the silliest shit I've ever heard. What is the logic behind that? You watch someone play and their character is constantly sliding on their ass like a dog with worms. It's the kind of thing I can see players defending as, "It's not realistic, but who cares, it's cool!" It is NOT cool, it looks fucking retarded lol>>729011016Neither of those things are complex, though. You're just saying words.
>>729010775I'm a singleplayer only scum so I would only ever play this if there was a mode with only bots.
>>729010775I hope it fails miserably, MOBA as a genre needs to die
>>729017980There is. The bots even use abilities now. They're really easy to exploit though since they've often just bunch up together and not do much moving about.
>>729018114Are they planning on keeping that or improving it?
>>729017980It's a pretty big waste that no one ever made a good PvE mode in TF2 or single-player mode in Dota 2. I used to daydream about stuff like that, but most FPS fans are rednecks and most Dota fans are just Warcraft fans who turn their nose up at anything that isn't Blizzard-derivative.
>>729017418Why not just make it so souls are always shared throughout the team? Then remove the jungles so everyone is actually engaging in team fights, with the occasional urn carry or lane push?
>>729018216>It's a pretty big waste that no one ever made a good PvE mode in TF2TF2 does have a PvE.It sadly just got overtaken by gacha/gambling cancer.
>>729018164Removing bot play would make the game even less accessible than it is so I doubt that. They could do with someone improving the bot AI thogh.
>>729018216You didn't like MvM?
>>729016441>he said slurThis is why online gaming sucks now everyone is a pussy nigger faggot who gets triggered by other people saying nigger faggot.
>>729018430am not crying about the slur, am mocking a pedophile like you getting filtered. If you took a bit of time to actually read what the items do you'd be able to easily close the gap with players. But that would distract you from kids
>>729017535>but even then denying is nerfed, most people barely care about it
>>729018379NTA but MvM has sadly become a mode that is only played to gamble for the opportunity to get golden guns rather than actual fun. The only way I can describe it is it's basically the only succesful crypto currency game.
>>729018706YesGuys playing in tournaments also barely do it, running boxes/statues is a better use of your time
Flopping tranny deadcock.
>>729018504>akshually you are a pdfileProjection much troon?
>>729017221I dunno people fight a lot in this, I'm not high rank but unless it's a snore lane with someone like McFatass in it, someone dies within the first few minutes 99% of the time
>>729010775>last hitting>in a fucking hero shooterIt won't be successful. You lost.
>>729010829Not in close deadcockcel
>>729018379No I've always thought MvM was lame. My friend convinced me to play it with his regular group one day and I was so fucking bored, I thought, "THIS is what people have been playing?" It's not at all what I would've wanted out of PvE and it's nowhere near as fun as VSH or the HHH event.
>>729019193>within the first few minutesYeah no shit there's actual pvp during the lane phase. The game makes sure there's nothing else to do at that point. The anon's talking about the mid-game when all the jungles spawn.
>>729017221>15 minutes before actually engaging in PVPYou haven't played the game. Don't talk as if you have.
>>729019681I fucking wish there was no PVP mid-game, my team constantly fucking ints and brools for no strategic reason. Its so alienating to be on the other side of the map and see half your team get wiped.
>>729019359There is no last hitting thoughveit
>>729010775The map is bad, 3rd person is worse than 1st person, games are 50+ minutes, objectives are bad List can go on. It's not going to be popular
>>729010829tranny
>>729018706hes rightif you have the choice to bully someone out of lane or deny them 20 souls the choice is very much clear (cause you deny them much more if you dont even let them get near creeps)
>>729019880>the map is badI haven't heard this one before
>>729019785But as you've acknowledged yourself brools aren't a good strategy. As the anon said, you're apparently expected to spend a significant amount of time in this online shooter not actually shooting players.
>>729019880>games are 50+ minutes90% of games end around 30 minutes. Even shitelo has gotten better at ending and forcing the game with Midboss.>>729020023>you're apparently expected to spend a significant amount of time in this online shooter not actually shooting players.Kinda but only as a hypercarry.They recently buffed souls from kills so you can now snowball quick with a few good teamfights.
>>729019681There's just too much good shit in the jungle right now. Either weaken it early game enough that there becomes a meta for having a jungler, or nerf it hard so people don't spend it dicking around before emerging with a huge soul lead after going 0/5
>>729017950>sliding giving you free ammo or whateverI was curious about trying this game but now I won't. that sounds obnoxious
>>729016628I got into Deadlock relatively easily, DotA is much harder for me not to mention there's a few "no fun allowed" things like being the pos5 dude who gets no gold and no bitches. In Deadlock I can run bnuuy Sinclair with a 40k souls build and actually have fun without throwing the game.I think it's just that Deadlock requires you to be at least average at both shooters and MOBAs, most people are average at only one of them.
>>729010775i wish it leaned more towards overwatch or TF2and away from DOTA
I want Deadlock to succeed as well. I used to really love Smite Hirez shit the bed and this is all I have left.
>>729021086I want to bite its ears
Don't worry guys "meet the Lash" video will get 2.4 millions views in 2 days.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_4VjWNUb2E
>>729017418Playing Deadlock makes you realize why gold and exp are separate in Dota and why spells barely scale.>want to just tag along as a support and not bother with PvE creep autism>it's feed city if you ever fall behind in souls because your healthbar will be half of everyone's and anything you do that isn't your one hard cc will be worthless
>>729021086'Im all ears' ass nigga
>>729021278Well you are in luck. They'll be adding a mode with only one lane, no towers, and shop. You get pick from one of several random items each level up or something like that.
>>729021487https://youtu.be/wIuQfm1Y9rEThis one is also really good.
>>729022029Deadlock doesn't really have support roles, I mean there's utility oriented characters but you're strongly encouraged to get some damage no matter your character. We'll see how the economy and balance is closer to release, and also what they're doing with the Yuumi type character next update.
>>729022350They just need to 1:1 Mayhem mode from LeagueLiterally the best MOBA for fun mode I've ever touched.
>>729010775>Deadlock successfulI already know the Valve script where they introduce lootboxes and eyeraping cosmetics like fucking Dota 2. By default it's peaking here while you think of the "good times"
>>729022489GUNCARRYREM
>>729010775>I hopeWhat are you hoping for lil nigga? This shit has already been out for what? Over a year? People moved on.>b-but it was just a alpha/early access!I can't imagine still falling for this scam and cope. Are you 15?
>>729022804They are doing ARAM from League.
>>729016628I don't understand people who say this. I played DotA for around 60 hours and I was still in the baby phase getting filtered.>camp stacking>six million characters>elevation and dealing with trees>what Roshan drops depending on how many times you killed him>the team shitting on me because I hogged the Courier at a bad time>secret shop and what you can buy in it>creep blocking>getting half of your wave deniedMeawhile 30hrs after starting to play Deadlock I had a rough grasp on the game and could start making an impact in a handful of games. Maybe DotA got a lot begginer friendly since then, according to Steam I last played in 2013.
>>729023443Yeah just add Mayhem on top of that and you're golden
>>729023445You have to remember that grasping MOBA mechanics is a lot easier to do if you've played one before.Deadlock, just by virtue of being 3D has higher potential floor and ceiling (but not as of right now, imo.)
>>729023154i bet this thing is just a sidekick for a new hero or some way valve fucked with "leakers" cause they already know who they are
>>729023689DotA 2 has a literal ball of light that you could mistake for someone's spell as a playable character. Sad but the zesty owl is in.
>>729023475What's the difference? I've never played LoL, and I intend to keep it this way.
>>729010775REMINDER THAT VALVE ABANDONED DEADLOCK TO WORK ON DOTA 2! >NO new hero's for Christmas>NO skins, they are even removing things they gave us last year!>NO fun challenges, just winMeanwhile dota 2 got...>NEW hero, bard frog>Massive monster hunter event with skins>MASIVE update with HUNDREDS of balance changes>FOUR FULL hero reworks, ALL on one update13 year old game gets more love, THANKS VALVE
>>729024827>>729024827>literal ball of light that you could mistake for someone's spell as a playable characterwow that sounds kino what does it look like?
>>729025696Suspect he's talking about Io the Night Elf Wisp ripoff (because Valve could have been more creatively bankrupt with Dota 2 if they tried).
>>729025919let me guess, this is a support hero isn't it?all the creative designs always are
>>729025919>could have been
>>729026023Yeah meant couldn't
>>729025990It has been played in almost all roles through the years. But its kit is about linking up to an ally or a creep and buffing you and them.
>>729025692>valve: maybe a dota shooter wasn't such a good idea>great so you're going to finally stop copy do->valve: let's go back to dota
>>729025692deadlock got 10 new heroes in 1 year and was close to getting 16 before the delay
>>729014385>get better at the game>makes faggot reply to something so simple and basic.yikes dude someone who clearly has more time than you is tellling you how it is yet you know better. no wonder you're dogshit if you're that much of a spaz. there will never be a deadlock hero where you can just hold down Q or tap Q and do as much as people using their full kits. you're a fucking dumb nigger if you think otherwise and im glad you don't like the game because I'd rather never see tranny niggers like you in my games incapable of personal accountability
>>729019169no -- you can just tell unhinged "i know better" people are into fucked up shit 100/100 times. they're never NOT losers, yknow?
>>729025692>>NO new hero's for ChristmasYou got 6 recently. They want to dump 6 at a time.>>NEW hero, bard frogIt's been 13 months, so yes.>>Massive monster hunter event with skinsIt's only skins. Dota gets that all the time; so does TF2. I don't know why you're pretending a promotional event for another game for another company is some kind of win.>>MASIVE update with HUNDREDS of balance changesIt was a very weak patch. No new mechanics or map objectives, no new items besides neutrals, they removed a dozen characters' facets because they don't know what to do with them. There hadn't been a version update in like 7 months and this one didn't change much of anything for the majority of players. Most heroes got a -1 here and a +5 there and it looked erratic: they didn't nerf the meta heroes or buff the dead heroes, it's like whoever's updating Dota doesn't actually watch games. They actually buffed a couple meta heroes and nerfed a couple dead ones and everyone who streamed themselves reading the patch was completely baffled.>>FOUR FULL hero reworks, ALL on one updateI'm actually not 100% sure who you're talking about. Brewmaster and Clinkz were basically just half-reverted to their old selves. Treant just had his skills moved around. Brewmaster and Lone Druid get reworked once every year or two and most people don't read it's just a bunch of technical nerdy shit that in the end just amounts to some small difference that might actually make the hero worse. The only hero that got a new ability is Slark and it's the least interesting, most nothing ability in the game.And that's normal for Dota 2 patches. You can tell which abilities are old and which are new, because Valve only polishes brand new heroes. Once a hero is released, if IceFrog or whoever decides the hero needs a new ability or animation, they get the fucking janitor to work on that and it always looks and sounds like shit. New abilities added to old heroes 10 years ago still look WIP.
>>729020193there's good shit but like 10 or less characters that clear camps fast enough at early enough spike times with the current meta. It's genuinely more efficient to just go slam boxes and deathball with another lane early on if your initial lane sucks cock. yeah there'll be games that go to 30-40 minutes especially in mudboy mmr playing with the women/transpeople/mexicans. But as of right now even after base changes, it's still a matter of push lanes HARD, ball up, win at 20-25. it's gayer than fuck but I understand not wanting long games in deadlock, hopefully they can find a way to balance it all out I don't have any suggestions.
>>729025692lol this pic is funny people dont realize how important dota 2 is to valve as a whole
>>729010829How do you figure? I'd rate them about equal personally. Both feel just as demanding to me when I'm in a match
>>729028287>>729027924Remember to dial 8 your axe wound neo vagina so it doesn't close up, FAGGOT
>>729030214it's unbelievable how sexy ivy isi wouldn't have imagined that i would ever say something like that about a valve character
>>729030232>Faggot told to get good immediately starts shouting 'TRANNY TRANNY TRANNY'Deal with it. Or don't and you can play another game instead of getting butthurt over mechanics.
>>729021086idk the last time you played dota but supports, even pos 5, get a lot of gold now and build a lot of items.
>>729010775Game needs an arena/ARAM mode. I'm tired of getting my shit pushed in by Smurfy_The_Clown_420 for an entire 45 minutes
>>729028940>Brown hands typed this
New custom map they played on a /vg/ inhouse: https://youtu.be/GzY-d4A_Z_8Can't wait for mapping and custom games personally.
>>729025308Late, sorryMayhem is basically every person getting 4 modifiers to their character over the course of the game. These can be small like just a bit more damage or resists, to game changing like become melee, gain stats based on range lost, all heals deal damage scaling with the magnitude in an area around the target or after using your ult, you have (essentially) no cooldowns for 10 seconds.There are three tiers, silver, gold and prismatic. Everyone gets the same tiers (unless you've picked a modifier that changes yours). You can see three modifiers at the same time, and can roll each once, for a total of 6 x 4 modifiers available over the course of a game in a pool of probably 100-200.It results in every character being on crack by the end of the game. Very fun mode if you're just fucking around, and it leads to new builds that simply aren't viable in normal modes, since you'll even get modifiers that outright convert stats.
>>729023445>>camp stackingIrrelevant if you're a casual>>six million charactersYou can learn about them while playing with/against them>>elevation and dealing with treesAgain, irrelevant if you're a casual>>what Roshan drops depending on how many times you killed himVery easy to learn>>the team shitting on me because I hogged the Courier at a bad timeeveryone has their own courier>>secret shop and what you can buy in it???>>creep blockingAgain, fucking irrelevant if you're a casual>>getting half of your wave deniedgit gud
>>729033714That sounds more like arena than aram.
>>729033015Looks like Overwatch.
>>729030214ivy sexoooo
>>729034457 Not even surprised you said that, it's the go-to comparison for anything with colors and cooldowns now. But nah, if you actually watch the vid for more than 6 seconds and stop fixating on the UI, it plays way closer to HotS or a sped-up Battlerite. OW doesn't have this kind of map layout or pacing, and certainly not a hybrid ARTS/arena flow like what they’re going for here. It’s like saying TF2 is basically Fortnite because there are guns.
>>729034457In what way? The map is enormous compared to any OW map, the map is using developer graphics and the movement is completely different from OW
>>729035968No, that video looks like a simplified, squeaky clean, futuristic FPS with lots of verticality, like if someone made TF2 in Unity. Why the FUCK would you compare it to two top-down fantasy games?
>>729033015Top big and boringMirage op, flying carpet rush every game
>>729036413https://youtu.be/gS0zQOUYq_kThe real map is in 1920s new york anon, you're seeing a random modder with a map coated in grey developer texures
>>729036757Should definitely be like a 12v12 map or something, i think some balance changes were made though but I don't know which
>>729036814Anon, that's the normal map.
they killed trapper and gave his abilities to a unicorn girl, ill never forgive them for this transgression
>>729039118i thought they gave his abilities to the goth necromancer girl
>>729039154oh yeah whoops, point stands. i want my 'only doing this basketball tickets' janitor chud
>>729039268i agree though he was great, my favourite of the hero lab heroes besides vyper
>>729010829i like both games but no, dota is genuinely way more complex. mechanical skill doesn't always = complexity, because people will get through that mechanical hurdle regardless. like a fighting game character can executionally be hard but their actual game plan is very simple.
>>729010775>REAL 3rd person action mobas have never been tried!!!the movement options alone will filter most people, its just too sweaty in the wrong waytotal nightmare to try and spectate too
>>729034280It's essentially a merging of both
>>729020241It's not, you build around it, most heroes don't have to utilize it at all. It's similar to how in MOBAs like LoL as a Mage you can auto attack for little bit of damage in between of your abilities, is that obnoxious, or just mostly irrelevant?In Deadlock you can't just slide by default, you need enough movement speed or spend stamina, which might be better used for better things.
>>729043057To add onto anon's point, the infinite ammo doesn't swing many fights in either's favor. Between the different items that also work as an instant reload or ammo gain and the variability in gun handling (Abrams, Doorman, and Mirage have potent guns but none you would say more ammo would win the fight over their abilities; compare to the likes of Infernus, Ivy, or especially Haze who can be or ENTIRELY gun-focused), the infinite ammo bonus on slides tend to be more a fun thing to do or a dynamic entry. It is important to take advantage in gaps in your opponent's DPS, but given how abilities, items, and melee strikes all provide fallback options, you shouldn't treat ammo limits as the best or only way to close those gaps.The only character who ABSOLUTELY needs to learn to slide is Vyper, who has a high-power, fast-firing, but low ammo gun. Her Slither ability not only provides bonus stamina, but also increases the distance of her slides, so she wants to schmoovement all over the place. And she still pretty squishy and large enough that she really isn't that hard to fight if you know to keep your distance.
>>729044461Even on Vyper it's at most a Shift - > CTRL once every 5-10 seconds. It's essentially just an ability press. Non-issue
This game somehow mogs all modern shooters and Mobas and I don't understand how, it's Valve magic I guess
Why doesn't valve just release it already to the open public... I WANT TO PLAY IT
>>729045716It's literally playable right now if you just ask on the forums for an invite. Stop being retarded.
>Trying to clear the Vyper challengeWhy did they make her so shit?
>>729046069i actually didn't know this anon... just ask on the discussion forums on steam?
>>729046385i trust a random redditor over those goons on steam forumsthey need to just add an install button already ffsyou can get an invite on the reddit for this game within a few mins im sure, or send your friend code here and ill inv you
>>729047928Already got someone from the steam forums to send me an invite... he said I should get a notification from steam in about an hour. The guy seems trustworthy, so we'll see!
>>729048059gl anon, take it easy with bots at first there's a lot of moving parts with this gameinv window is anywhere from 30 mins to 2 hours i think
>>729046385Yes, just go ask in in the Steam forums and you will be invited basically instantly.
>>729043057>>729044461You are clearly missing the point. Does sliding on your ass in real life give you ammunition? No. Can you abstract that it's similar to some real life interaction? No. Okay, but does it look cool? NO. SO...WHY? Who thought it was an appealing mechanic in any way?
>>729048276>Okay, but does it look cool? NO.WRONG
>>729017221>Spending 15 minutes farming on the most braindead AIWhat the fuck are you even doing in laning phase?Most of the time both teams poke the fuck out of each other to find weaknesses then attack, people start getting killed 1-2minutes in unless its a complete stalemate but even if its a stalemate you're still fighting against other people while trying to retain your farm. Absolute brain dead take, no wonder why Deadlock will never take off cause everyone is a fucking brain dead normie.
>>729048260I can understand why most people don't want to take the one step to get an invite, since these look so sketchy. I only downloaded the game since a friend mass sent invites to everyone just cuz he could.
>>729048557There's legit concerns because I think an invitee can be game banned if the inviter gets banned himself. Not 100% sure but I've heard rumors.
>>729010775it wont be successful no matter what they do. a complete waste of the valve is spending on this crap
>>729048768>a complete waste of the valve is spending on this crapESL detected opinion discarded
>>729048348It looks like a bunch of fat incompetent mall cops throwing themselves on the ground yelling to each other like they're Navy SEALS. It reminds me of RE6 how you can crawl around on your butt. It's so fucking silly, I can't take the game seriously.
>>729049205you never played vanquish and it shows
>>729049246You're right, I only play good games.
>>729048276It's fun and satisfying to do and I suspect your problem is with stimmed out high rank players jiggling up and down stairs between every burst of their weapon. Usually it's just a bonus for charging at the enemy, and sliding is almost always done to move rather than shoot
>>729050117Anons, there's no point in trying to change his mind. He has a /v/-poisoned, schizophrenic foundational belief against John Woo moves and there's no hope for him. Let him stew in his sadness.
>>729050117My problem is that it's constant and my brain knows that sliding does not provide a real benefit to you in 95% of circumstances in real life. I can see sliding being a mechanic to low profile attacks or obstacles. I can see it being a mechanic that gives you an immediate burst in speed followed by a reduction in speed that makes spamming it slower than running (i.e. rolling in Souls games). I cannot see why it would be a constant thing you do and why it would affect your ammo in any way. It looks stupid when I watch people run around and they are constantly lying on their ass. How do you think that looks cool? Everyone's on the ground like they're at a slumber party.
>>729050315you could've just said he's a casualactually, on the topic, when did people here stop calling each other casuals derogatorily? it used to be very common
>>729048809I just woke up nigger. This game has no longevity there is no visual appeal and there is no gameplay worth putting thousands of hours worth of time into. The only reason it has any players at all is because at the least the engine is good and its a valve game. But even valve has its flops and this game is one of them and I am a big fan of valve but this game just isn't it. If they were going to make this crap the least they could have done was go the league route and add a bunch of hot anime girls but they couldn't even do that they chose to appeal to western standards because that's all the artists they have. Once again they lean more towards furry and woke slop than general appeal.
>>729050439You making it a skill issue (which I originally thought too) when realistically it is pic related, but unironically.This isn't being a casual, this is being too mentally ill to suspend their disbelief.>actually, on the topic, when did people here stop calling each other casuals derogatorily?I'd say around the time "sweats" started picking up steam. When people thought that being too invested or competitive in a game is bad and Chud-like and it is better to never care about anything ever.
>>729048768the real complete waste is cs2
>>729050687That game at least makes money through retarded gamblers and skin chasers
>>729050440i disagree, more hours in the first year of deadlock than I had with my first year of dota, and that's reached 6k hours nowjust because a game is not for you doesn't mean it has no appeal
I have almost 5k hours in Dota 2 and around 2k in League and I just don't get Deadlock, maybe it's because I'm bad at shooter games but it feels weird to play compared to any other MOBA.
>>729051224I have 5k hours in dota 2 and thousands in other fps games and shooters was immortal multiple times as well. I dont even like deadlock so I dont see how the casual audience could ever get into this game. Its a specific niche type of autism youd have to have then youd have to have that niche interest in the art style and characters as well.
>>729050410Sliding only works when you move really fast (through stamina using dashes or just acceleration) or down stairs and ramps. Sliding extends momentum but unless downhill you don't gain any speed. If i stop playing deadlock and play something like tf2 i automatically want to slide down every ramp, it just feels good to do.
>>729050440Nigger they added a ridiculous goth vampire slut and retarded milk truck nerd bimbo, there's enough pandering and fanservice already
the movement tech is fun as hell
>mfw the enemy mina asks why infernus has crushing fists added to his buildso fun punching people and running away.
>>729023025well yh anon.what kind of company would valve be if they made an actually good game if they didnt make a profit?
The upcoming characters are>a familiar (rem)>gay fencer (title pending)>necromancer (graves)>priest (venator)>"werewolf" (silver)>unicornalright. i will be taking your votes as someone lobbying on behalf of /v/. who shall i dedicate the majority of my votes to?Necromancer is currently in the lead, followed by rem the familiar and priest after him
>>729050440https://youtube.com/shorts/skz9odeewpc?si=lZ1AjxOwtU4fu8_N
>>729052984priest is probably the freebiegraves because necro is my fav dota nigga
>>729010775It's really unlikable and unfun. Valve are washed up.
>>729052984Do any of these guys have an ability that launches them instantly into the airI need someone else in my goo/lash/holiday rotation.Hoping we get someone with demoman TF2 stickybombs with nockback
>>729054982leakers say pepper/unicorn is a movement herostill we don't know anything for sure since they can change before release
>>729055225>stamina items are unicorn/pegasus/earth horse themed>unicorn movement heroOh yeah, it's all coming together
>>729011553>spend all my stamina to close gap to punch peopleyou just explained why you're bad and you just do not get it
>>729046226I play on ritualist/emissary and rarely see people playing her but when I do see one she's usually violating the other team
>>729052984You forgot about the Soviet Empire spy.
>>729055560>earth horseGreetings fellow human posters!
>>729055225Leakers also said boho was a movement hero. Boho has no movement abilities
>>729011094As somebody who just got into dota a few weeks ago and has ~15hrs, the knowledge checks are definitely the most annoying part. Otherwise I'm actually really enjoying it! I have a bit more time in league (~30hrs maybe?) but I def prefer dota
Slavs are gayTrannies are gayJeets are gayWomen are gayMen who main women are gayBosnians are gayPuerto Ricans are gayLatinas are straightI am straightAny questions deadlockers?
>>729025692anOnimous please, icefrog doesnt even work on dota anymore
>>729018430It really just gives the impression that you're trying way too hard to be edgy.
>check skill rating>i'm oracle>pretty good, for 250h playtime>friends wants to play with me>they are low arcanist/seeker tier players>games are stomps where i'll do great and my friends/randos suck dick giga hard>worst part is at the mid to late game fights where it matters most, even when you carried their assi can't play games with them, i fucking hate it
Not a single fun character in the entire game which sucks because i like the items
>>729010775played one game and quit, third person sucks and the mobility is dumb and boring
>>729062941First point sure but the second point is just you being filtered.
>>729062941true, you struggle to walk down a hallway in real life
this game should've been melee focused with directional swings and blocks, and with fewer ranged optionskinda like mount&blade
>>729052984Rem, because little goobers are peak.
>>729045605Except the shooting is shit and it does not even mog their own moba as of now. The only good gameplay element about this game is movement
Post your top played and people guess what type of faggot you are>Drifter, Doorman, Ivy
>>729063458Lash, Warden, Doorman
>>729063458>infernus, giest, viscous
>>729063458"Kills are more important than objectives"-fag>>729063837"Who cares if we are losing, I have CC'd one of them for a billion years"-fag>>729064000Stealing this build>Billy, Geist, Bebop
>>729010775Been playing it for a while and honestly it's mediocre :>Map's theme is nice in a vacuum but it looks soulless and forgettable>Equipment system is kinda weird, you buy stuff from the shop but none of these are tangible, 80% of them are passive stat buffs that don't look like items you'd buy>The shooting part feels dogshit, everyone uses a pea shooter, the melee or slashing character also don't have any feedback, the combat in this game is as weightless as it can get>Games aren't even short, it's like a game of League length-wiseHonestly, there is no reason to play this over Dota
>>729064467this nigga said 'equipment system'wtf game are you from, especially with this trash ass opinion
>>729064530I'm sorry the game you enjoy is mediocre
>>729052984venatorneed my catholic kino
>>729064626opinions are like assholeseveryone has one but no one wants to see or hear yourskeep moving on with your limp wristed blog posting ass
>>729064857I accept your concession
>>729064662>catholic kinoyou mean ludo, right? catholic "kino" would be Call Me By Your Name
>>729061968>muh edgyYou give me the impression you groom minors on discord looney troon.
>>729034087>doesn't know what secret shop is>doesn't know that each team only had one courrier for most of its lifespanis this post bait?
>>729010775>casual fun?????????????
this thread is a great reminder that the average /v/ user is a teenage favela monkey with a pc their dad bought from the USSR.>>729063458Viscous, Mcginnis, Bebop
>>729010775>casual funPffft, the movement alone isn't casual at all but pure zoomer bait with animation cancel spam, macro abusers, unlimited ammo on slides, etc... If your game have ''movement tech'' then 99% of the time it is not intended yet the devs are allowing it to happen, that shit killed Titanfall 2 and it will kill this game too unless the devs do something about it.
>>729051704Both are censored harder than CCP mandated gachashit btw
>>729065658Skill issue, git gud shitter
>>729023445dotababies are delusional
>>729010775it already released when the beta went out and it peaked, now everyones tried it or burnt out, and it aint worth coming back to
wife
>>729066257What a lovely coalburner
>>729065658as a quake boomer this game un ironically has made me hate zoomers 40% less. sliding in vidya is kino and I spammed slash in Quake Chamipions and I spam vyper in this game.
>>729066314>quake champions>not quake livefake unc
>>729066383I played both, but quake champions had slash deal damage while sliding so I watched on to that shit.
>>729011553Hold on faggot I've seen you bitch this EXACT same issue in every thread including the general in /vg/.Unironically filtered retard.
>>729010829It is on a generalized level, but nearly everyone on the planet who plays video games has played a shooter before and has a baseline level of knowledge regarding what playing a shooter entails. The fact that Deadlock is a shooter/MOBA hybrid makes it infinitely easier to pick up and play for a random regardless of complexity because it's a familiar genre that doesn't require learning an entirely new genre.While it may be a MOBA, Deadlock can be described to a random as a hero shooter where you can buy items and upgrade your skills, with objectives on the map. Most people will understand what that entails. Explaining the likes of something like League to a random is a nightmare because MOBAs play almost nothing like anything else except RTS which is already an unpopular genre. The added complexity is at least 50% mitigated by preexisting knowledge and skills.
>>729065656>this thread is a great reminder that the average /v/ user is a teenage favela monkey with a pc their dad bought from the USSR.Well it is a Valve multiplayer game thread
>>729066257Why the FUCK is she like this?
>>729064906shoo, protescuck
>>729065985I will not, your slop will die tho.
>>729017221All the retard replies denying yet not able to refute the dogshit PvE aspect
>>729063458>The Lash™, M&K and Victor
>>729050842go to shower anon
>>729063458Drifter, Doorman, Haze
>>729066919Why protastants of all things? Could've called me a jew or a muslim or some other random thing. I don't get it
>>729010775I only engage with characters, art and memes, barely played the game. It's too daunting and stressful. Am I a real fan?
>>729063458Warden, Vindicta, Dynamo
I'm not playing it again until they introduce casual modes or even better - an arcade like in dota.Shit is tiresome to play.
>>729056674He is gone until further notice. Same with Wrecker and Trapper.
>>729063458
>>729068072No you're a fake fan, but a fan nonetheless
>>729067809Not him but both jews and muslims do not discriminate against goym/kafirs. Could have talked shit about Zoroastrianism or Hinduism or anything else and the above would have been equally true.Protestants (mainly American (the continent) evangelists) have bad blood with catholics, often calling them derogatory terms like "papists". From Martin Luther (the kraut, not the nigger) to your average New Age megachurch hick pastor, all protestants oppose Catholicism for various reasons. Nowadays it has to do almost exclusively with power rather than selling indulgences to rebuild a cathedral.t. autistically reading about history and theology in my free time
>>729068072just play fun characters then, mk with carpet for example
>>729010829it’s 100% more tiresome to play than dota. not even up to debate. hope they enjoy their 10k player counts.
>>729069302Yeah idk why people are coping, in Dota you can get a gamergirl to learn one support hero, tell her where to put wards and when to use a stun and she had an impact with 100 hours of gametime, same is not the case with deadlock
>>729069302>no dedicated support besides one character>less russiansits already less tiresome than dota
>>729069231>selling indulgences to rebuild a cathedral.interesting defense. but if christcucks were pious they wouldn't need to spin donations as "this will save your soul dude lol", right?
>>729069302I pretty much don't have to give a shit about macro in Deadlock and that's the most exhausting part of MOBAs for me. I can also build whatever the fuck and still make an impact. Depends on your sensibilities I suppose, I think Deadlock is easier to get into if you aren't a MOBA only player.
>>729069540idk nigger, ask Pope Leo X or something.
>>729067627 Solid picks, anon. Drifter especially hits different in late game, assuming you aren't getting dogwalked in lanes. Doorman still feels like a coin flip unless you're running with coordinated rats. Haze is cracked though, that ult wipes teamfights if you combo right. Still waiting for them to nerf the blind duration because holy hell.
>>729070525no thanks, i heard it's very hot down there.
>>729069302You're correct and it's proof of its complexities. This post puts it well >>729021086>I think it's just that Deadlock requires you to be at least average at both shooters and MOBAs, most people are average at only one of them.You have TWO genres at the same time with completely different skillsets. The shooter part is more important early game than later (unless gun build) and the MOBA ability cd management and rotation becomes crucial from midgame onwards.>>729069735nta but Deadlock is my first MOBA (and first spastic shooter for that matter), and it isn't as bad as I thought. Sure there's a meta but the fact that you can buy nearly any item as long as it fits your build/playstyle is amazing, and if you can play any Valve multiplayer game then this game isn't any different.
