>PC gaming about to steal the entire industry with the launch of the steam machine to get normies>consoles failing>suddenly all PC parts become 2-3X more expensive.This is intentional isn't it?
>>729013781steam machine is just a prebuild. you know they've been around forever right? it's not special or unique.
>>729014014Normies care about aesthetics. Steam machine is aesthetic.
>>729014113no more aesthetic than any other basic prebuild. it'll sell about as well as the deck, maybe a little worse since it's absolutely going to be $800 or more. you massively overestimate the market for this.
>>729014312Console cope post.
>>729013781Would have been more awkward if they also announced next gen consoles around this time too, so at least they can remain silent and hope there won't be another shortage or price increase on current consoles.
>>729014362not an argument. the market for this is small, but valve are rich so they don't care.
>>729013781>This is intentional isn't it?Yes. Nintendo and Sony put away their differences and send armies of ninjas to murder RAM factories personnel.Since it takes years to train proper Ram-smiths there are going to be shortages.
>>729014641You don't need to "argue" with a complete nonsensical assertion that a cube is not immediately more aesthetically appealing than typical prebuilts. Even Alienware looks generic as fuck these days.
Consoles use RAM too.
>>729014824Yes they do.
>>729013781There's been a surge in demand, and the current production isn't enough to meet demand, thus prices go up.I don't know why /v/ has to make everything conspiratorial.
>>729014812that looks fine and equally as aesthetic as the steam machine since there isn't a billion multicolored gay ass LEDs flashing and an anime waifu dancing in the middle like zoomies love.
>>729014863Investment trap =/= DemandThis should be basic first hand knowledge for any /v/tard who knows not to pay $500 for some gamecube game some nigger on ebay own and/or destroyed most of the copies of.
Imagine being such a retard that you think consoles are made from magical technological components that are somehow not just standardized versions of PC components and that this won't affect consoles just as much as PC
>>729013781the takes you read on here sometimes are something else manno anon, i really don't think the ai bubble burning down the entire consumer electronics market and a huge chunk of the economy at large is specifically targeted at valve
WHY IS THIS GOING TO AFFECT THE ENTIRE ELECTRONICS MARKET?I was told that only PCs use RAM.HOW IS IT THAT PHONES AND CONSOLES ALSO USE RAM AND THEIR PRICES ARE GOING TO GO UP?
>>729015176Everything uses some form of ram and or ssd nowadays. EVERYTHING will get more expensive, from your fridge to your tv
>>729015409well at least jeets get to mass produce soulless art and bad porn and further ruin the internet and society overall.
>>729013781>"News" Article: Blank is here to stayLying sacks of shit.
>>729013781meds steam droneanyone who wanted to be a pc gamer could just get a way better pc than whatever that shitty underpowered cube is far cheaper too
>>729013781Base model Steam Machine will most likely cost $600 while the 2TB model will most likely cost $800-$900. Consoles will be getting hit from this too, especially Xbox and PlayStation.
we need to kill all the aifaggots so ram can be cheap again
>>729016556>Base model Steam Machine will most likely cost $600LMAO No it won't.If it does I'm buying 50 of them
>>729013781yep. a complete and total genocide of worthless hedonistic manchild gamers to prepare for the rise of the new master race
they looked at the demand from industrial AI data servers and decided it was better money than the RAM consumer marketI don't know whether to freak out because of how much more my tech stock is going to be worth over the next few years or because of the bubble growing even bigger
>>729017056The fun part is when demand drops all that surplus enterprise gear is going to hit the used market and be absolutely worthless for mere mortals and they gaymen PC. Homelab users are going to cream themselves over the deals though.
>>729016673>If it does I'm buying 50 of themYou also won't be doing that either considering every Steam Hardware revision has implemented anti-scalper faggotry.
FOR SALESteam machine [no RAM - see listing for details]$300
>>729016556>Base model Steam Machine will most likely cost $600AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA$700 minimum, pay up
ITT
>>729013781consoles are like 90% laptop partsthey will be affected too
>>729013781This isn't about consoles. They will increase in price due to RAM price increases too. This is about making sure the average person can own nothing.
>>729014312Not him but what is the point if it's more expensive than a console? It doesn't have the modularity of a normal PC, so there's really no reason to get it over an old 3200g OEM rig and a Playstation, You'd be in about the same money, if not a little less.
What is the cheapest RAM you can buy right now?If it's an ideal RAM for an anti-gaming PC, then it's better for me.
>>729018061Your best bet would be to get an OEM rig that isn't supported by Windows 11 if it has 16gb for around $60 to $80. Or to find a 4x4gb kit for around $60 to $80 if you want faster speeds than 2133mhz. If you need DDR5, you're fucked.
>>729018050yes it's all da joos /pol/. you've figured it out again. bravo.
this wouldnt have happened if nip moot had banned all the faggots in the ai general
>>729013781The joos don't care about valve especially when valve donated to their party of choice.
>>729018256>posted from my iphone
>>729018240I'm only interested in retro console emulation.Because any PC that can decently emulate PlayStation 1 or something even better like PSP or Dreamcast is fine by me.
>>729014312>no more aesthetic than any other basic prebuildBasic prebuilds are slathered in butt-ugly RGBshit like it's still 2016. A dark grey cube is infinitely more aesthetic than basic prebuilds.
>>729018540Honestly you could just get a 2200g HP or Lenovo if you're okay running Linux or Windows LTSC. Or get a 3200g version if you need to run Win11. The integrated graphics in those chips is plenty good enough for Wii/Gamecube/PS2.
>>729018743I prefer Windows 11.What do you think of an Apple Mac as an option?
>>729018914It would probably be good on the newer M chips. I haven't used a Mac in about 10 years so I have no idea.
>>729014113Xbox is just a more taller steambox and that flopped. The "I dominate your living room" ps5 is a huge success
>>729013781>memory-hungry AI PCsWhat if I'm not looking for one of those?
>>729016673>>729017512>direct to consumer>competitive with prebuilt mini gaming pcs>Steam Deck costs $550It makes sense for the 512GB model Steam Machine to cost $600 while the 2TB model costs far more than the Steam Deck 1TB. Of course, I could be wrong and it does end up costing $700 for the base model.
>>729013781Do you think that consoles don't use RAM?
>>729013781Well yes it is intentional, but not for the stupid reason you suggested.OpenAI can't compete with Google straight up in the AI space so they intentionally disrupted the global ram market by buying dramatically more supplies then they need.
>>729021078>>competitive with prebuilt mini gaming pcsSource? I haven't seen anything mentioning they were targeting minis specifically, just "PCs".
Good luck paying less than $1000 for the Steam Machine with those part prices.
>>729013781The constant reporting of this as a "shortage" is so fucking disingenuous
>>729021331https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/valve-coder-confirms-the-steam-machine-will-be-priced-like-a-pc-albeit-at-a-good-deal-if-you-build-a-pc-from-parts-and-get-to-basically-the-same-level-of-performance-thats-the-general-price-window-that-we-aim-to-be-at/
>>729018602I ended up getting one of these homiesI'm very pleased with how small and unobtrusive looking it is; apparently it's exactly the same width as a Steam Cube and 2x as tallSlapped an RX6600 in it and I'm gaming
It's crazy that so many countries just don't make their own shit. >oh, some other countries make it so it's cool>our entire infrastructure and culture is dependent on the things they make, but it's still cool>they can at any moment threaten our economy at will and even cripple it for decades, but we're cool, right?The low cost was supposed to be the only benefit. But now that benefit has evaporated and you've allowed them to gain such a foothold over the entire industry that it's going to cost you even more to either capitulate to their extortion or escape from under their thumb. Fucking retarded boomers don't give a shit about what the world will be like once they're dead.
>>729021542It's crazy in the sense that it's senseless, but it's pretty obvious why this shortsighted decision was made for globalist bullshit, since even though long term a robust global manufacturing industry is good even from a globalist stateless perspective, short term it looks bad because it suggests less global interdependence.A lot of this decision making to effectively illegal to do manufacturing locally was made under the shortsighted decision that China as a dying nation would go "I'm taking you with me" and start attacking other nations in its death throes.
>>729021760China's Final Warning.
>>729021807lmao This is the ten-thousandth "final warning."
>>729014863>The demand?>Altoidsman wants to buy 40% of the entire worlds supply of silicone wafers>Not to use it, but to just let it sit and rot in a warehouse so that others can't
>>729021542>>729021760The End of History was a mistake but for a minute it seemed to work>Germany used to be bad guys now they're nice guys>Japan used to be bad guys now they're nice guys>Russia used to be bad guys now they're becoming nice guys>let's just be nice to China and they'll be nice guys too and everybody in the world will be frens>Star Trek here we comeSitting there in 1991 that shit made sense because we were already halfway thereSomehow we've gotten further away from the goal since then lol
>>729016556Only if they sell a "barebones" version with no RAM or SSD in it.
>>729014863You are so fucking retarded KEKClassic american nonesense. Enjoy your degrading nigger kike empire.
>>729021906Is OpenAI buying these with actual money or "trust me bro" stocks?That tells us who the biggest retards are (although they're all still retards).
>>729021447I see where you've gotten "competitive with prebuilt mini" from, but that article still doesn't quote Valve directly saying that. That said, having looked at some of the available hardware, I'll admit I underestimated pricing equivalence. I do expect the price point to be on the higher end because of things like the RAM and SSD shortages. Hopefully, Valve already has a contract locked in so that at least the first bath or two are still reasonably priced.
>>729021760>>729021542>>729021983Imagine defending kikes colluding to price you out of owning a home computer. But sure keep being afraid of China and be good goy and die for America will you?
>>729013781>This is intentional isn't it?intentional by whom?
>>729013781>PCasual schizobabbleYes, troony, you were so close to "winning" with the most dogshit exclusives ever that end up going to consoles anyway.
>>729022338Believe it or not chang, but I can hate both globalist retards and you chinese faggots to drag the rest of the world into the grave with you.
>>729017056You only turn a "profit" if prices go back down after you sell. Money is a zero sum game.
>>729022006That would break the system though.>>729022337They probably have enough for 2026, I do wonder what happens in 2027 and beyond though.
>>729017307They'll destroy the parts they don't need anymore, to "stabilize prices".
>>729017307AI shit can't be used in consumer shit and you wouldn't want it if it could, these components are going to be abused to hell and back.