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There's nothing wrong with sacrificing strangers to save someone you love. Utilitarianism isn't an objective parameter of morality, and life doesn't have unitary value. Letting your loved one be killed would be just as bad, if not worse since family bonds are the basis of human society and our raison d'etre.
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>>729016215
First two are premier WEF movie-game slop. This post would 1000x better without them
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>using french words
you corny ass motherfucker
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bump
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It makes most sense to save your family member unless you stand to gain something from saving the random strangers.
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Your selfish reasoning is a spook.
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>>729016215
I like Heaven's Feel the most because being selfish and trying to save someone you love feels the most human. It's also a nice change up from Shirou's ideals in the previous routes. I don't think there's anything necessarily wrong with wanting to save everyone, but the selfishness of saving someone you love is a story beat I personally really like in a lot of fiction.
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>>729018792
Sorry, I'm not sacrificing my loved ones to save thoysands of people I don't give a single solitary shit about... i know I know, its evil, but I'm just not doing it haha ...!
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>>729016215
If you love someone as toxic as Chloe you got problems.
What's the game on the bottom?
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>>729018792
>spook
We call them glowies now
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>>729016215
This works for TLOU but not for LiS, max knows arcadia bay.
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>>729016215
>There's nothing wrong with sacrificing strangers to save someone you love. Utilitarianism isn't an objective parameter of morality, and life doesn't have unitary value. Letting your loved one be killed would be just as bad, if not worse since family bonds are the basis of human society and our raison d'etre.
The second one isn't even about sacrificing others for those you love, if were looking at it morally Joel is still in the right. The Fireflys are incredibly incompetent, they've also betrayed him in multiple ways least of which is not paying him which brings up questions of their trustworthiness. All of that adds up and his heel turn of offing their entire enclave for someone who was trustworthy for months on the road makes much more sense not simply out of love but actual loyalty. The second game ruins it with retcons so that drunkmann can have his special boy moment of getting the story he actually wanted.
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>>729016215
The only person I love is me, and I'll gladly sacrifice everyone else for my benefit. I want the world all to myself, anyway.
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If I had to choose between a family member and the entire population of the earth, all 8 billion of you fuckers are going bye bye.

You wouldn't even win out over my cat, and nobody will ever convince me that I'm not 100 percent morally correct for doing so.
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>>729016215
kek
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>>729016215
Ellie was more useful as a breeder cow, and Joel knew this.
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>>729016215
the dilema dont work in these games because the Firefly and everyone in TLOU are assholes and Joel only has his bro and Ellie.
and Max has family and friends in Arcadia Bay, plus Chloe is a bitch who cucked you with your bully if you save her
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>>729016215
chloe wasn't worth saving and only yuritroons disagree
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>>729020449
LiS 2 and TLOU 2 are made by different writers who don't believe in individuality and love shady vaccines and killing your loved ones for the greater good. They're not canon



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